I have owned DS and ID since 1972, and I never want anything else (except perhaps an SM...). Today I drive a DS 23 IE Pallas - 74, which really is my dream car. Greetings from Sweden!
Jag önskar att jag kunde ha råd att köpa en Citroen DS. Pallas är ju drömmen, men spelar inte roll om det är en vanlig med dubbellyktor, men inte cabben och inte combin. Vilken är att föredra? Vilken växellåda ska man ha?
Been a DS owner for decades and this was a pretty good guide. In fact I can´t remember anyone doing it better. If I have to say something I would say that the engines not only is "good" but that they are incredibly good. They can take abuse and high mileage better than the classic Volvo "redblocks" and some of Mercedes old engines. Yes I said it, but I say that as a Swede who own classic Volvo´s and Mercedes´s too. About the rust. They are kinda "different" with that too. Of course the classic salt-rust is there as any other car. But by far, the worst D-models I have seen is from leaking roof seal. The roof frame is like a gutter which leads all water via the C-pillar and parcel shelf down to the VERY important structure around the rear trailing arm mounts. If it goes bad there, it´s really hard to get it right. Other than that, the structure of the car is mostly straight metal. In my experience it´s much easier to do rust repair on a DS than on a Volvo 240. And the hydraulics... The short story: If you don´t want hydraulics, get a bicycle. If you realize that all cars have hydraulics, why not get the best there is? In 30 years, I haven´t had any major problems with the hydraulics on a DS. Spheres, fluid service and bleeding brakes is the only thing my cars ever needed. Overall, with all the kinds of cars I had over the years, the DS has been by far the most reliable. And that´s not only me saying that as an enthusiast with a garage queen. I have been driving crazy amounts of KM in different DS´s including a lot of "beaters" back in the day when they were cheap. Anyone capable of servicing any old classic car will learn the DS´s few quirky bits really fast. And as with any classic, the more you pay for a good example, the happier you will be in the long run. If everything is alright, it will be (yes actually) pretty quiet and the suspension comfort should blow you away completely, otherwise something is wrong. And it should also handle surprisingly well. These things are way faster in the corners than most people think. But with suspension spheres from a CX and/or crappy low-spec tyres it will not get that crisp response they had when new. And yes, you dare! You can thank me later. Best thing I ever did was getting my first DS back in the day. It was of course crap, but it never let me down once. Instead it started a life long relationship with the best car ever made. The one I have today is a DS 23 familiale which had over a million KM on the clock (old taxi) when I got it decades ago. It has been dragging around really big caravans, it has been my company car. My (now adult) kids grew up in it and it has been to different countries and hauled a lot of cargo.
Have had a 1961 DS19. Was gotten from a estate sale. Was a great old car. Was same owner for over 50 yrs. Sold it to a collector. Now have 1974 GS 1220 Club. Live in central Kansas USA.
The legendary DS Citroen, the class and the Italian design never disappoint..The French should thank the Italian designer Flaminio Bertoni for life who created it..
Hi, thanks for the in-depth review. I'm considering getting myself a DS, just how easy are they to drive in the UK. I've seen 1 for auction sale for between 25 to 30K and it looks decent. Finally what would your pick of the range be engine wise or manual or automatic. Does any of those engines have any known issues compared to the others?
i do'nt understand when the DS enginebay was designed for a flat six engine or a boxer engine, why have i never seen a DS conversion with such an engine configuration? there must be some or more clever people that are able to take an excisting flat six and put it into a DS (???)
It was a mistake to attach that wireless microphone to that jacket, you’ve destroyed the sound and rendered this video unwatchable as a result. All you can hear is SCRATCH SCRATCH SCRATCH SCRATCH SCRATCH SCRATCH.
I have owned DS and ID since 1972, and I never want anything else (except perhaps an SM...). Today I drive a DS 23 IE Pallas - 74, which really is my dream car. Greetings from Sweden!
Jag önskar att jag kunde ha råd att köpa en Citroen DS. Pallas är ju drömmen, men spelar inte roll om det är en vanlig med dubbellyktor, men inte cabben och inte combin. Vilken är att föredra? Vilken växellåda ska man ha?
Been a DS owner for decades and this was a pretty good guide. In fact I can´t remember anyone doing it better. If I have to say something I would say that the engines not only is "good" but that they are incredibly good. They can take abuse and high mileage better than the classic Volvo "redblocks" and some of Mercedes old engines. Yes I said it, but I say that as a Swede who own classic Volvo´s and Mercedes´s too. About the rust. They are kinda "different" with that too. Of course the classic salt-rust is there as any other car. But by far, the worst D-models I have seen is from leaking roof seal. The roof frame is like a gutter which leads all water via the C-pillar and parcel shelf down to the VERY important structure around the rear trailing arm mounts. If it goes bad there, it´s really hard to get it right. Other than that, the structure of the car is mostly straight metal. In my experience it´s much easier to do rust repair on a DS than on a Volvo 240. And the hydraulics... The short story: If you don´t want hydraulics, get a bicycle. If you realize that all cars have hydraulics, why not get the best there is? In 30 years, I haven´t had any major problems with the hydraulics on a DS. Spheres, fluid service and bleeding brakes is the only thing my cars ever needed. Overall, with all the kinds of cars I had over the years, the DS has been by far the most reliable. And that´s not only me saying that as an enthusiast with a garage queen. I have been driving crazy amounts of KM in different DS´s including a lot of "beaters" back in the day when they were cheap.
Anyone capable of servicing any old classic car will learn the DS´s few quirky bits really fast. And as with any classic, the more you pay for a good example, the happier you will be in the long run. If everything is alright, it will be (yes actually) pretty quiet and the suspension comfort should blow you away completely, otherwise something is wrong. And it should also handle surprisingly well. These things are way faster in the corners than most people think. But with suspension spheres from a CX and/or crappy low-spec tyres it will not get that crisp response they had when new.
And yes, you dare! You can thank me later. Best thing I ever did was getting my first DS back in the day. It was of course crap, but it never let me down once. Instead it started a life long relationship with the best car ever made. The one I have today is a DS 23 familiale which had over a million KM on the clock (old taxi) when I got it decades ago. It has been dragging around really big caravans, it has been my company car. My (now adult) kids grew up in it and it has been to different countries and hauled a lot of cargo.
Thank you, excellent comments 👌
Great post, thanks for info👌
Tack för intressanta kommentarer, Michael! Kan hålla med om det mesta!
I understand that some of the older Citroen mechanics have never seen the insides of the durable 4 cylinder because it's so reliable.
Have had a 1961 DS19. Was gotten from a estate sale. Was a great old car. Was same owner for over 50 yrs. Sold it to a collector. Now have 1974 GS 1220 Club. Live in central Kansas USA.
Simply fabulous! Was given a DS Super 5 from my mother . I really didn't want it but once driven forever smitten !! Thankyou
Great video. I have a DSuper5 and restored it to daily driver status. I think you covered all the important points really well. Thank you.
The most unusual cars ever made so out of the box and that is a good reason to buy one
The legendary DS Citroen, the class and the Italian design never disappoint..The French should thank the Italian designer Flaminio Bertoni for life who created it..
Beautiful design. I would put the DS cabriolet in the top 5 most beautiful cars of all time...
Great video. Great car. I really like these buyer guide videos.. quick, straightforward, informative.
Fabulous car
The Rover P5B Coupé in the background in Silver Birch over Zircon Blue
Hi, thanks for the in-depth review. I'm considering getting myself a DS, just how easy are they to drive in the UK.
I've seen 1 for auction sale for between 25 to 30K and it looks decent.
Finally what would your pick of the range be engine wise or manual or automatic. Does any of those engines have any known issues compared to the others?
I love these videos, but the microphone noise and you speaking quite quietly and quickly make this video really hard to watch.
It has a very bright and "angry" red "STOP"-light if the hydraulics fail! So you wont miss that!
i do'nt understand when the DS enginebay was designed for a flat six engine or a boxer engine, why have i never seen a DS conversion with such an engine configuration? there must be some or more clever people that are able to take an excisting flat six and put it into a DS (???)
Love my DS21 1969. Sadly the drive didn’t live up to the looks
If that was the case there was something wrong with it. Of course, your expectations might not have matched the type of drive the Citroen offers.
It was a mistake to attach that wireless microphone to that jacket, you’ve destroyed the sound and rendered this video unwatchable as a result. All you can hear is SCRATCH SCRATCH SCRATCH SCRATCH SCRATCH SCRATCH.
Strange, I heard every word.
Why is the sound sped up On your videos? Stop that!
The biggest trick in owning such a legendary classic. Being over 55 years old and wealthy.
@@alancrisp1582 Precisely
@@alancrisp1582 as someone born in 1997 I'd consider myself very lucky to own a a Citroen Xantia, Saxo or even a late build 2CV at this stage
When I win the lottery...
retired auctioneer?
A wooden panel in an english ID! Very brittish, but rather terrible!
It is a mid-engine car, really!
Have you sped up your speech. Can't keep up with you😮
Don't like this guy as a presenter .... Where's the young chap with the glasses .... A much better presenter.
Yes and no. The first DS was not quite as beautiful, and the first all broke down because of the LHS.