Agreed. That Coolermaster case is the only case they have ever made that I would consider to be something I would purchase, but definitely not at that price.
got my lian li without really researching much, just liked the look. but im impressed, the amount to space you get in the power and storage area is crazy nice
The standard of cases being manufactured as of late are really beginning to push the boundaries of what you need and what you didn't realise you needed 😅 great video man!!
The reason I like a full tower primarily is storage. I run 4 HDDs 2 SSDs and 2 M.2s right now. I also like to have Blu Ray burner, and a card reader in the front. My Thermaltake Core V71 has been pretty nice, though it just barely accommodates the new GPUs.
Same here. I have 5 HDDs, 1 SATA SSD, 2 NVME SSDs and a BluRay drive. Most cases these days don't have enough room for that. Even some full tower cases struggle. Thankfully my BQ DB900Pro can handle it easily, while still allowing me fit in a full size triple fan graphics card.
I like a full tower just for the space. I don't even use hard drives anymore, but my personal system is a display system, and I like having some extras installed (like RGB images) to take up any empty space. Personally, I love having a large empty space to work in during building. I never recommend them to customers, but I always prefer them myself. And, Linus did some testing recently with a smoke gun, and it showed that if your video card is too close to your front fans, it will cause turbulence in the case by the video card, and there will be a dead air space under the card. If there is a large gap between the card and the fans on the front, this doesn't happen.
I feel like particularly for full tower cases, I'd want to hear a little more about the internal drive capacity -- how many 3.5 drives it can hold, maybe even 5.25 bays for those crazy folks still wanting/needing for whatever reason to rock an internal optical drive, power/data cable routing for same, etc.
As an elder Canadian builder, I want those 5.25 bays for a DVD/Blu-ray drive, and a removable drive bay for backups. And it had better hold at least 4 hard drives, because I'll be dual booting; One M.2 NVMe for the daily driver, one SSD for the alternate OS, two usr/swap drives, and one huge drive for AV stuff. Funny how bloody hard it has gotten to find such a case new, and thus I end up reusing the good older ATX cases. That's why we build our own systems, after all!
What GPU do you have and what are your temps? I want to buy the case, but the GPU being so close to the glass and the warning of high temps makes me not want to buy it.
@@yasmingirl17 I have an EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3070Ti. I keep my FPS at 60ish so my temps are around 65 degrees c. The Pure Wing fans are a little loud due to the turbulence on the side panel, but only when on high speed.
The Corsair Obsidian 1000D is the most overkill case maybe ever, with a monster size, and that's why I love it so much. It is immensely customizable with enough space for two full systems in there.
the Phantek enthoo pro 2 its still my number one recommendation. Specialy when you plan to create a NAS as some points. Enough place for 20+ HDD, 60++ 2.5 inch SSD. We can even find 3d printed brackets to install even more storage.
I rebuilt my PC in the 5000T this year and I really like it. It looks nice and has much better airflow than my old case. And it has the space for if I'm ever brave enough to try and do a custom loop. Though it is a bit unwieldy. But what IS nice is that the little foot it sits on lets it sit on desks/spaces where you might normally not fit it because the foot is smaller than the case body and actually raises it up off the surface enough for some clearance.
I actually got the CM HAF 700 Evo and I adore it. I will say that the power button may have gone through changes, because I don't need to depress mine nearly as much as yours. Also, I want to add that the cooler master riser bracket/cable included with it aren't all that great. Not sure if you got one with your review sample, but it should come with one when purchased through retail. The big problem with it is the cable included isn't flexible at all, so it ends up pushing against the motherboard and the video card ends up jutting out at an angle. I was able to kind of squish it in with less of an angled mess, but it's still there by a slim margin. Otherwise, so glad I purchased it. A couple of friends I had over to check it out were in awe, and both of them actually wanted to purchase one after seeing it. Lol
I know it is a "2021" PC case but I don't care, the best case of the decade goes to the Fractal torrent & torrent nano case, very well designed case with massive airflow & a great overall price!
I would have added the "Be Quiet! Dark Base Pro 900" to the list, I know its a little older, but still a great modular full size tower, that still looks great.
It's a subjective list as the title clearly states. I mean, technically two of the cases mentioned aren't even full towers by common definition. Also, the tooling of Dark Base 900 Pro is really outdated at this point. Be Quiet! should have done a revision long ago.
@@veduci22 Ehm ... no, not really. The newest iterations of those families are significantly newer and more modern than the Dark Base 900 (not that it even makes sense to talk in such general terms anyway, what models are you even talking about? xD). Don't take me as a hater, I am using the Pure Base 500DX as my case myself and have always used BQ's power supplies. But it is a fact that they are exceptionally slow on keeping their cases up to date. Dark Base 900 was really innovative when it came out, but the Rev. 2 is arguably worse than the original and generally a successor would be needed. And it is not just that model. Be Quiet! also still sells the brutally outdated Silent Base 600 (not 601, but its predecessor), which was an old design even when originally released, and the Pure Base 600, which is aging as almost equally badly. Silent Base 802 and Pure Base 500DX/FX are pretty much the only models I would consider competitive in the current market environment. Airflow is key with the new generation of hardware and the Dark Base line is simply subpar when it comes to that, even disregarding general design shortcomings.
Cooler Master awesome. Mirror...check. Angled fan brackets...check. But heck the size, the weight, the cost. Lian Li 011 really nice. But the Lian Li Lancool 3 still takes the biscuit.
Yeah that Cooler Master case is really cool looking. I built my pc with the 5000D airflow and I feel like it's better than the 5000T given the difference in cost since the only real addition is just extra rgb.
ive built maybe 20 pcs in my life. every time i do i do extensive research on what case i wanna use. whenever i saw the y60 i just bought it. thankfully all my stuff fit. best case ive ever used. gonna be keeping this one for years to come.
Feels like some case brands are trying to get their slices from hardware crisis and price increase from last 2 years. 400 for usual case that would go for 130-140 2 years ago is unacceptable.
I want to see more front facing pc cases for custom builds. PC case orientation is from a time where we had optical and floppy drives. For a long time now we build PC's that are as much of a showpiece and aesthetic compliment to your home office/command center and I wish there were some more innovative designs that just had like a glass door in the front that you open up and have easy access to all components as well as show everything off better.
Love the "Get the flex but engage that core" 😀I have been building systems since the 80's and everything here is pretty sweet compared to the bargain build cases of yesteryear. I have had a love for Lian Li since the early days and presently have my build in the ROG version. The Lian Li EVO definitely got my attention. Great video, love the cross section of offerings at the higher price points. Getting insight on whether cases have progressed far enough to warrant an upgrade is great. I have a bit of a hardware addiction, so window shopping on your budget kinda works for me. 😁 Cheers
Used to love trying to get a motherboard to fit in a case properly back in the day. Seems they could never get the mounting holes right. If you were lucky, you would get one or two metal stand-offs, and the rest would be plastic. Man, I don't miss those days.
Solid review! Thanks again Hardware Canucks! I choose Hyte Y60.. and did not regret it at All.. Very satisfied and loving the whole new look of the aquarium design. it is 50% better in personal. 😍😍😍
That Cooler Master case is super sick! The future of pc cases keeps getting better and better. I just upgraded my Lancool 2 to the Lancool 3 since I got a Hybrid 3090 Ti FTW3 and I've been enjoying it a lot but man is my setup heavy haha! Having twelve fans, a 360mm AIO and a 280mm AIO with a 1200w psu and a LCD screen AIO she's beefy. Once the 13th gens release I'll finally get to swap out my i7-8700K / Z370 mobo AND ditch all my 2.5" drives for only M.2's! Can't wait!
I love the HAF, but I don't think I could ever justify that price tag. The O11 is probably the most expensive I'd go for, and they do sell a mesh front panel for the EVO so it's pretty unbeatable airflow wise.
@@HardwareCanucks that's true, it's just that I'm more used to sugar coating (even through I prefer to hear the weaknesses similiarly to the way you did it)
@@HardwareCanucks I prefer it the way you did it D. I need to know the pains of it before anything else. Also, tons of other channels only show the best and not the reality
Some of us sometimes still need lots of storage, too. This seems to be an afterthought when it comes to both information provided by case manufacturers and reviewers: I can't tell you how many times I have to go digging to find out just how many drives a case can hold, because apparently few people think it's an important detail. ;)
This is not a problem in the HAF 700 series you can fit a total of 11 HDD's or SSD's in that case so plenty of drives. It has a rear drive bay with room for 4 drives and then you can fit 2 drives at the back of the cable cover plate and 3 more on the brackets on the rear front behind the mirror. On the main front of the case there is 2 brackets mounted on the bottom that you can fit 2 more drives in so a total of 11.
I already bought the Cooler Master HAF 700 Evo. Going to be building a Ryzen 7000 / Nvidia 40xx system inside it. Going to go for a dual water-cooling loop, so the GPU and CPU will be on their own loop, with their own pumps / radiators. I even two 64mm thick 420mm radiators, which will give me MORE than enough cooling headroom for the CPU, and I feel will set me up pretty good for whatever the wattage of the 40xx series GPU uses. It will also be my first custom loop, using hand bend acrylic. I finally make enough money to go all out on this PC build. And i'll be able to use this case for over a decade, and I know this because I'm STILL using the Cooler Master HAF 932 case. So if I use this case for 10 years, that's only $65/year. Not too bad, when you realize what all you can throw into this case.
I have always had great respect for HC (and Demetri) when it comes to their judgement. But here we are, w/ the best full-tower cases and not a mention of what I consider the best of all. The Fractal Design Define 7 XL ... not flashy, but functional ! My philosophy has always been "FUNCTION OVER FORM" ! Even if you want to display your build, it should be something that is easy to work with, without any obvious oversights (design flaws). If you want a flashy case ... the Fractal Torrent, and no, I don't work for Fractal !
I really want to do a fat watercooling build in that HAF, it's actually as "cheap" as £380 here in the UK, so not too bad I guess, for the tier of premium space it occupies.
The Cooler Master HAF 700 EVO was the most interesting case in the video for me. I am a longtime aficionado of the Cooler Master full tower cases/My first Cooler Master full-tower case was the original Cooler Master Wave followed by the original Cosmos RC1000 which I subsequently upgraded from to the Cooler Master Cosmos II Ultra Tower.
Look at the top of your front louvers. Does yours happen to have embedded dust? Mine does. It's inside the glass if that makes sense. Everything else is perfect about it. Everyone including my 83 year old mother in law love it. They have never seen anything like it.
I’ve built in the Hyte Y60 a couple of times. It’s a beautiful case, but not a big fan due to it’s poor ventilation. The newer version with fans in the angled glass area is much better. I definitely don’t like the power and usb at the bottom. That’s just a USB stick waiting to be kicked off. Also, you can only use low-profile brackets with any add-on cards, and of course, you’re limited to a vertical GPU mount. The case looks fantastic with a 280mm vertically mounted AIO and is really the perfect location for that because it just looks like it’s part of the original case. Like most vertical GPU mounts, it is too close to the glass and hinders card performance. The use of only low profile add on cards is a major drag as is the lack of any other GPU orientation but vertical. Overall though, with some minor modifications, this can be a great case. Another more recent “widebody” case is the DIYPC ARGB Q10. It is similar to the Hyte in that it is a “widebody” and has glass front and side…… but no angled section of glass. Airflow is similar to the Hyte where you either draw in air from the top or side depending on type of CPU cooler used. The power and usb is at the top……so that location is much better. It comes complete with 4 ARGB fans and the build quality is very good for a case one-third of the Hyte cost. The most impressive feature is the amount of room supplied for CPU power plug installation. Even with Noctua sized dual fan CPU cooler, you can easily install the 8 pin after securing the motherboard and with the cooler installed. That’s a first with any case I have built in. It really does have considerable room for cable management. A very impressive offering from DIYPC.
As cool as the Coolermaster is, no pun intended. It doesn't quite get there for me. The Corsair 5000T is the right fit, the black one looks way better and I'd go with that anyways so the coloring on the white one doesn't affect me. Next is the bracket for cables, that would be removed anyways so I'd only ever have to touch it once which is probably why they made it hard to remove because you are supposed to do it once and never again. I'd be running 10 fans so that bracket would never go back in the PC. Next would be the SSD slots, don't need those personally since I'll only be running m.2 NVME drives. I do have a few SSDs that could go in there but the screw isn't that big of a deal, definitely a huge flaw though. There is definitely too much plastic in that case for it's price point and they probably did that so it stays lightweight, the panel on the back could use some more weight to it. The glass panel not going in all the way is fine by me because it prevents you from getting in the habit of just shoving it closed which could damage the tempered glass, giving it a firm push to close it makes sense to be honest. So overall I will definitely be going with the 5000T for my next build, has all the features I have been looking for, I might even get a mirror for the bottom to see the bottom of the GPU
Seriously? Why didn't you mention that you get no option for a horizontal gpu mount in the Y60? The case is wonderful, it looks amazing, it's an absolute treasure for water cooling but it has one enormous downside and that's the one thing you don't explicitly mention - the temps in that vertical mount for air cooling are absolutely terrible, comparable with poor airflow uninformed customer options out there. It's a massive deal-breaker for anyone who wants to use it with an air cooled gpu, especially if they're expecting temps similar to what you'd get with an 011D - given that it's that one bottom to top airflow double chamber case which has given people the idea about how good gpu temps can be in these, and it should've been mentioned first thing.
i opted for a full tower case for maximum airflow. My old alienware was horribly loud, so for my new build i went with a huge case and 140mm fans all around for silence and cooling, and I also wanted to be able to watch DVD's and whatnot so I wanted a 5.25 bay. Phanteks Enthoo Luxe (tempered glass edition)
It's a shame nowadays that cases just don't have the CD/dvd / Blu-ray drive Bay having it in a computer opens up possibilities for attachments heck I was able to put an 8 USB Bay attachment in it so I could have eight controllers wired plugged in but I understand nobody uses CDs anymore so what's the point of having them in the cases to sell I just wish there was more thought because I feel like it's a neat feature even if you don't use it for a drive bay for CDs
I got a hold of a case, with all the trimmings, from a company that most people hate now. I'm talking about the Alienware Area 51 R2. The (in)famous Triangle Case with RGB strips! The system is a beast, first off....Liquid cooled 12 core i7, 32GB DDR4 3200 RAM, 1200watt Modular 80+ Gold PSU, 2060 6GB VC, and over 5+ Terabytes of SSD storage! I have to say, this case has seriously grown on me! Weird? Yep. Unconventional? Yep! Rommy interior? Oh yeah! Quiet. Cool. And totally BAD ASS looking, IMHO! Sure, Alienware is a hated brand now-a-days, but for the price I paid (let's just say EVERYONE out there would take it for the price I paid), it has been a great machine to have! I know, so much of it, as is, is proprietary, and hard to replace, but if the MOBO goes out, I can just mod it to take a "standard" ATX MOBO. The PSU is replaceable, as well as the cooler! The case allows for just about ANY size MOBO and PSU combination out there. I really get bored with standard "box" cases that are so prevalent in PC's today. Lian Lee is well known for "weird" cases, and I can understand the desire! This undoubtedly my most favorite case I have ever had in the 30+ years I've been into PC's. And NO, I ain't no MacNerd. Macs SUCK!
I f love the hyte y60 but the price here in europe its just to much and its so dificult to get one . I will buy one tomorow if i will find it at 200 dollars .Cheers.
I have a question with the Hyte Y60 case, is the floor of the inside metal or plastic? Like IF someone wanted to place a 360mm AIO in the front side space, could the floor right in that area be cut to allow for the taller RAD? That is the ONLY thing I REALLY did NOT like about this case, you should be able to install a 360 AIO in that place, and for some reason they allowed a 360 in the top but not in this area, when this area is a much better place for such a large AIO. Thanks.
I like the idea of the darkened mirror. My very first custom rig was a Cooler Master and I am looking for a new case to complete my build but I just cannot find ANYTHING in stock that has all the features or look I want. Frustrating time to build a PC that's for sure.
Absolutely LOVE the Cooler Master Haf 700 Evo. I have wanted that case since they first announced it. Ive been hoping GamersNexus would do a full review on it
55 POUNDS!! Jesus man. That case also should be 499$ of 549$ It would feel much easier to swallow. There's ZERO reason a case to be way more then halfway towards 1000$. That's just insanity.
I love my H500p mesh, is that a full tower i think it is. I just remove the top while in use to let the 360 rad exhaust through the top. Remove the PSU shroud for better gpu cooling as well. Love this case.
I have the Cooler Master. I built a new LGA1700 system. I was actually trying to get in touch with customer support today. I love the case let me say that. My only issue besides it being $800 is the front glass louvers have dust inside the louvers. I tried to clean them until I realized it was actually inside. The case also has 2 of those 19 pin connectors. I had to buy an add on card as my mobo only had 1. I am talking about the blue connector.
Cases with 200mm fan are.. sexy.. Having little brother MasterCase H500M and it gives me happiness every day when i look at it. I hope Cooler Master will never kill 200mm case line.
Gpu height clearance? From the mobo to the glass side panel. This is the new info 4090 owners need to know to allow the 4090 and cables to fit without bashing the glass side or bending the cables too far.
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I'm surprised the Fractal Design Torrent wasn't mentioned at all.
That and bequiet.
Torrent is classified as a mid tower not a full tower I believe
@@Ravendarat Isn't the Hyte as well though?
@@finestPlugins I would have thought so too but it’s the only thing I can think of.
Ngl i thought the cooler master haf700 was similar to the torrent
Lian li just continues to impress. The coolermaster is nice but I'll never spend gpu prices for a Case.
In that case, just wait for the next crypto rally, then even lower-end GPUs will be way more expensive than the HAF 700 again xD
@@dynastes4938 if people have learned anything from the last run.
Dont sell off your 1 gpu for a new one too early.
Q500L or even montech ones are good enough imho
Agreed. That Coolermaster case is the only case they have ever made that I would consider to be something I would purchase, but definitely not at that price.
got my lian li without really researching much, just liked the look. but im impressed, the amount to space you get in the power and storage area is crazy nice
The standard of cases being manufactured as of late are really beginning to push the boundaries of what you need and what you didn't realise you needed 😅 great video man!!
best full tower cases. first case, a mid tower. second case, a midtower. third case, a mid tower. i like chaos
The reason I like a full tower primarily is storage. I run 4 HDDs 2 SSDs and 2 M.2s right now. I also like to have Blu Ray burner, and a card reader in the front. My Thermaltake Core V71 has been pretty nice, though it just barely accommodates the new GPUs.
Same here. I have 5 HDDs, 1 SATA SSD, 2 NVME SSDs and a BluRay drive. Most cases these days don't have enough room for that. Even some full tower cases struggle. Thankfully my BQ DB900Pro can handle it easily, while still allowing me fit in a full size triple fan graphics card.
I like a full tower just for the space. I don't even use hard drives anymore, but my personal system is a display system, and I like having some extras installed (like RGB images) to take up any empty space. Personally, I love having a large empty space to work in during building. I never recommend them to customers, but I always prefer them myself. And, Linus did some testing recently with a smoke gun, and it showed that if your video card is too close to your front fans, it will cause turbulence in the case by the video card, and there will be a dead air space under the card. If there is a large gap between the card and the fans on the front, this doesn't happen.
Man, been watching you guys for almost 10 years now. Keep up the great work!
It's been a minute... Will probably be here ten years later lmfao
I feel like particularly for full tower cases, I'd want to hear a little more about the internal drive capacity -- how many 3.5 drives it can hold, maybe even 5.25 bays for those crazy folks still wanting/needing for whatever reason to rock an internal optical drive, power/data cable routing for same, etc.
Or using those drive bays for attachments like eight USB port galore or having your own shelving unit in it so you can put your USB sticks in it
As an elder Canadian builder, I want those 5.25 bays for a DVD/Blu-ray drive, and a removable drive bay for backups. And it had better hold at least 4 hard drives, because I'll be dual booting; One M.2 NVMe for the daily driver, one SSD for the alternate OS, two usr/swap drives, and one huge drive for AV stuff. Funny how bloody hard it has gotten to find such a case new, and thus I end up reusing the good older ATX cases. That's why we build our own systems, after all!
I recently built a pc in the Hyte case. I absolutely love it. I did switch out all the fans for pure wings.
What GPU do you have and what are your temps? I want to buy the case, but the GPU being so close to the glass and the warning of high temps makes me not want to buy it.
@@yasmingirl17 I have an EVGA FTW3 Ultra 3070Ti. I keep my FPS at 60ish so my temps are around 65 degrees c. The Pure Wing fans are a little loud due to the turbulence on the side panel, but only when on high speed.
Thx for covering full towers. I am currently putting a full tower system together. Sadly, my chosen case just became “unavailable.”
The Corsair Obsidian 1000D is the most overkill case maybe ever, with a monster size, and that's why I love it so much. It is immensely customizable with enough space for two full systems in there.
it has too many flaws for its size, its a massive case but the space inside it is really bad.
These skits are ridiculous. Love them. Chuckled hard at the “twin”. Great work!
I think the Phanteks P600S is still one of the best cases, I chose it and I have not regretted it
the Phantek enthoo pro 2 its still my number one recommendation.
Specialy when you plan to create a NAS as some points. Enough place for 20+ HDD, 60++ 2.5 inch SSD.
We can even find 3d printed brackets to install even more storage.
That case is the frontrunner for case ill purchase next.
Honestly, i always consider full towers as my first choice out of anxiety, what if i need that 12th fan to cool down the extra long six slot gpu?
You're really just prepping for the minimum cooling needs for RTX 5000, I admire the foresight
I rebuilt my PC in the 5000T this year and I really like it. It looks nice and has much better airflow than my old case. And it has the space for if I'm ever brave enough to try and do a custom loop.
Though it is a bit unwieldy. But what IS nice is that the little foot it sits on lets it sit on desks/spaces where you might normally not fit it because the foot is smaller than the case body and actually raises it up off the surface enough for some clearance.
lian li is my current favourite casemaker. beautiful looks yet practical
Gotta love that Cooler Master HAF 700 EVO. Nough said. Great video review, Dimitri.
I actually got the CM HAF 700 Evo and I adore it. I will say that the power button may have gone through changes, because I don't need to depress mine nearly as much as yours.
Also, I want to add that the cooler master riser bracket/cable included with it aren't all that great. Not sure if you got one with your review sample, but it should come with one when purchased through retail. The big problem with it is the cable included isn't flexible at all, so it ends up pushing against the motherboard and the video card ends up jutting out at an angle. I was able to kind of squish it in with less of an angled mess, but it's still there by a slim margin.
Otherwise, so glad I purchased it. A couple of friends I had over to check it out were in awe, and both of them actually wanted to purchase one after seeing it. Lol
Full tower cases without tempered glass would be perfect
I know it is a "2021" PC case but I don't care, the best case of the decade goes to the Fractal torrent & torrent nano case, very well designed case with massive airflow & a great overall price!
I would have added the "Be Quiet! Dark Base Pro 900" to the list, I know its a little older, but still a great modular full size tower, that still looks great.
Holy crap, I didn't even notice you had made the exact same post I did 35 minutes before me. Well...Thumbs up. I agree with you lol.
It's a subjective list as the title clearly states. I mean, technically two of the cases mentioned aren't even full towers by common definition.
Also, the tooling of Dark Base 900 Pro is really outdated at this point. Be Quiet! should have done a revision long ago.
Phanteks Enthoo or Fractal Design Define/Meshify are just as old and boring as Dark Base...
@@veduci22 Ehm ... no, not really. The newest iterations of those families are significantly newer and more modern than the Dark Base 900 (not that it even makes sense to talk in such general terms anyway, what models are you even talking about? xD). Don't take me as a hater, I am using the Pure Base 500DX as my case myself and have always used BQ's power supplies. But it is a fact that they are exceptionally slow on keeping their cases up to date. Dark Base 900 was really innovative when it came out, but the Rev. 2 is arguably worse than the original and generally a successor would be needed.
And it is not just that model. Be Quiet! also still sells the brutally outdated Silent Base 600 (not 601, but its predecessor), which was an old design even when originally released, and the Pure Base 600, which is aging as almost equally badly. Silent Base 802 and Pure Base 500DX/FX are pretty much the only models I would consider competitive in the current market environment. Airflow is key with the new generation of hardware and the Dark Base line is simply subpar when it comes to that, even disregarding general design shortcomings.
@@veduci22 I have a Meshify 2 XL, and it's far from boring, Quite an excellent case.
The O11 Dynamic EVO seems short compared to my O11 Dynamic XL-X. That one's definitely a full-tower.
Hang in there, lianli is testing the Evo XL Right now. I am waiting for That one. 😍
Cooler Master awesome. Mirror...check. Angled fan brackets...check. But heck the size, the weight, the cost.
Lian Li 011 really nice. But the Lian Li Lancool 3 still takes the biscuit.
"A few more interesting Timbits" @ 3: 11 - This fellow Canadian noticed that pun ;)
Yeah that Cooler Master case is really cool looking. I built my pc with the 5000D airflow and I feel like it's better than the 5000T given the difference in cost since the only real addition is just extra rgb.
ive built maybe 20 pcs in my life. every time i do i do extensive research on what case i wanna use. whenever i saw the y60 i just bought it. thankfully all my stuff fit. best case ive ever used. gonna be keeping this one for years to come.
Did you buy it ? Iwant this one but idk..
You used to have many more PC case reviews and I miss that.
I've been using 5000T for 2 months now and it's amazing
more full tower case reviews please! yes we still do exist lol.
Feels like some case brands are trying to get their slices from hardware crisis and price increase from last 2 years. 400 for usual case that would go for 130-140 2 years ago is unacceptable.
I want to see more front facing pc cases for custom builds. PC case orientation is from a time where we had optical and floppy drives. For a long time now we build PC's that are as much of a showpiece and aesthetic compliment to your home office/command center and I wish there were some more innovative designs that just had like a glass door in the front that you open up and have easy access to all components as well as show everything off better.
Love the "Get the flex but engage that core" 😀I have been building systems since the 80's and everything here is pretty sweet compared to the bargain build cases of yesteryear. I have had a love for Lian Li since the early days and presently have my build in the ROG version. The Lian Li EVO definitely got my attention.
Great video, love the cross section of offerings at the higher price points. Getting insight on whether cases have progressed far enough to warrant an upgrade is great. I have a bit of a hardware addiction, so window shopping on your budget kinda works for me. 😁
Cheers
Used to love trying to get a motherboard to fit in a case properly back in the day. Seems they could never get the mounting holes right. If you were lucky, you would get one or two metal stand-offs, and the rest would be plastic. Man, I don't miss those days.
Solid review! Thanks again Hardware Canucks!
I choose Hyte Y60.. and did not regret it at All.. Very satisfied and loving the whole new look of the aquarium design. it is 50% better in personal. 😍😍😍
That Cooler Master case is super sick! The future of pc cases keeps getting better and better. I just upgraded my Lancool 2 to the Lancool 3 since I got a Hybrid 3090 Ti FTW3 and I've been enjoying it a lot but man is my setup heavy haha! Having twelve fans, a 360mm AIO and a 280mm AIO with a 1200w psu and a LCD screen AIO she's beefy. Once the 13th gens release I'll finally get to swap out my i7-8700K / Z370 mobo AND ditch all my 2.5" drives for only M.2's! Can't wait!
I love the HAF, but I don't think I could ever justify that price tag. The O11 is probably the most expensive I'd go for, and they do sell a mesh front panel for the EVO so it's pretty unbeatable airflow wise.
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This feels more like top 5 worst cases by the way you are presenting them lol
Don’t wanna sugar coat anything. They all have strengths but hearing the downsides is even more important imo for future builders.
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@@HardwareCanucks that's true, it's just that I'm more used to sugar coating (even through I prefer to hear the weaknesses similiarly to the way you did it)
@@HardwareCanucks I prefer it the way you did it D. I need to know the pains of it before anything else. Also, tons of other channels only show the best and not the reality
I see you rockin the RX-78-2 stamp 👀🤘
Can't go wrong with the LianLi O11 of any size. Their pricing is incredible, and their design & innovation is a step ahead of everyone else.
That coolermaster case is absolutely insane LOL
I’m just waiting for the Lian li O11D Evo XL 😌
Me too
Some of us sometimes still need lots of storage, too. This seems to be an afterthought when it comes to both information provided by case manufacturers and reviewers: I can't tell you how many times I have to go digging to find out just how many drives a case can hold, because apparently few people think it's an important detail. ;)
know the feeling. I need something to hold 10 hd's and 2 ssd's and finding a non rackmount case that fits the bill has been fun.
This is not a problem in the HAF 700 series you can fit a total of 11 HDD's or SSD's in that case so plenty of drives. It has a rear drive bay with room for 4 drives and then you can fit 2 drives at the back of the cable cover plate and 3 more on the brackets on the rear front behind the mirror. On the main front of the case there is 2 brackets mounted on the bottom that you can fit 2 more drives in so a total of 11.
PCPartPicker natively has that info and even displays it on the part select page so no need to go into the product page.
I still think my TUF GT501 is the best. But Glad to hear from you ... Your channel is the best.
The Hyte case is Hyte Y60 right? You guys mentioned Hyte Y40? Great video none the less.
I think it's very amusing that the case manufacturers don't seem to test their own cases out with a full build.
He started the Cooler Master case review with NIN's Closer. I subscribed.
I already bought the Cooler Master HAF 700 Evo. Going to be building a Ryzen 7000 / Nvidia 40xx system inside it. Going to go for a dual water-cooling loop, so the GPU and CPU will be on their own loop, with their own pumps / radiators. I even two 64mm thick 420mm radiators, which will give me MORE than enough cooling headroom for the CPU, and I feel will set me up pretty good for whatever the wattage of the 40xx series GPU uses. It will also be my first custom loop, using hand bend acrylic. I finally make enough money to go all out on this PC build. And i'll be able to use this case for over a decade, and I know this because I'm STILL using the Cooler Master HAF 932 case. So if I use this case for 10 years, that's only $65/year. Not too bad, when you realize what all you can throw into this case.
3:06 i agree, that gpu riser should be sold separately. it is clean and elegant especially if you pair with white build. looks part of the motherboard
I have a hard time calling these full tower when I own a 900D
Yes, I’m getting the red beautiful Hyte 60 tower. And I was confused on whether it was a mid tower or a large tower.
no Fractal design Torrent???
I have always had great respect for HC (and Demetri) when it comes to their judgement.
But here we are, w/ the best full-tower cases and not a mention of what I consider the best of all.
The Fractal Design Define 7 XL ... not flashy, but functional !
My philosophy has always been "FUNCTION OVER FORM" !
Even if you want to display your build, it should be something that is easy to work with,
without any obvious oversights (design flaws).
If you want a flashy case ... the Fractal Torrent, and no, I don't work for Fractal !
I really want to do a fat watercooling build in that HAF, it's actually as "cheap" as £380 here in the UK, so not too bad I guess, for the tier of premium space it occupies.
Fractal Torrent is so good!
I just got the Y60 in white. I love it!
The Cooler Master HAF 700 EVO was the most interesting case in the video for me. I am a longtime aficionado of the Cooler Master full tower cases/My first Cooler Master full-tower case was the original Cooler Master Wave followed by the original Cosmos RC1000 which I subsequently upgraded from to the Cooler Master Cosmos II Ultra Tower.
Im rockin a haf-x still .. looking at this EVO like oh man!
Fractal Torrent as the best air cooled case by far.
Not really
@@CristianoRonaldo-zy3pq which one u think is better?
Bought the HAF 700 EVO because I figure it is my forever case. It will cater for anything I throw into it and I love the cooling potential.😅
Look at the top of your front louvers. Does yours happen to have embedded dust? Mine does. It's inside the glass if that makes sense. Everything else is perfect about it. Everyone including my 83 year old mother in law love it. They have never seen anything like it.
I’ll stick to my white Torrent. It’s phenomenal.
that white gpu is gorgeous.
My favorite case this year is the Phanteks Evolv Shift XT
i just got the hyte, and it is the easiest case to build in ever and so much room for tank models and tons of fans and watercooler on top
I’ve built in the Hyte Y60 a couple of times. It’s a beautiful case, but not a big fan due to it’s poor ventilation. The newer version with fans in the angled glass area is much better. I definitely don’t like the power and usb at the bottom. That’s just a USB stick waiting to be kicked off. Also, you can only use low-profile brackets with any add-on cards, and of course, you’re limited to a vertical GPU mount. The case looks fantastic with a 280mm vertically mounted AIO and is really the perfect location for that because it just looks like it’s part of the original case. Like most vertical GPU mounts, it is too close to the glass and hinders card performance. The use of only low profile add on cards is a major drag as is the lack of any other GPU orientation but vertical. Overall though, with some minor modifications, this can be a great case.
Another more recent “widebody” case is the DIYPC ARGB Q10. It is similar to the Hyte in that it is a “widebody” and has glass front and side……
but no angled section of glass. Airflow is similar to the Hyte where you either draw in air from the top or side depending on type of CPU cooler used. The power and usb is at the top……so that location is much better. It comes complete with 4 ARGB fans and the build quality is very good for a case one-third of the Hyte cost. The most impressive feature is the amount of room supplied for CPU power plug installation. Even with Noctua sized dual fan CPU cooler, you can easily install the 8 pin after securing the motherboard and with the cooler installed. That’s a first with any case I have built in. It really does have considerable room for cable management. A very impressive offering from DIYPC.
As cool as the Coolermaster is, no pun intended. It doesn't quite get there for me. The Corsair 5000T is the right fit, the black one looks way better and I'd go with that anyways so the coloring on the white one doesn't affect me. Next is the bracket for cables, that would be removed anyways so I'd only ever have to touch it once which is probably why they made it hard to remove because you are supposed to do it once and never again. I'd be running 10 fans so that bracket would never go back in the PC.
Next would be the SSD slots, don't need those personally since I'll only be running m.2 NVME drives. I do have a few SSDs that could go in there but the screw isn't that big of a deal, definitely a huge flaw though.
There is definitely too much plastic in that case for it's price point and they probably did that so it stays lightweight, the panel on the back could use some more weight to it. The glass panel not going in all the way is fine by me because it prevents you from getting in the habit of just shoving it closed which could damage the tempered glass, giving it a firm push to close it makes sense to be honest.
So overall I will definitely be going with the 5000T for my next build, has all the features I have been looking for, I might even get a mirror for the bottom to see the bottom of the GPU
Seriously? Why didn't you mention that you get no option for a horizontal gpu mount in the Y60? The case is wonderful, it looks amazing, it's an absolute treasure for water cooling but it has one enormous downside and that's the one thing you don't explicitly mention - the temps in that vertical mount for air cooling are absolutely terrible, comparable with poor airflow uninformed customer options out there.
It's a massive deal-breaker for anyone who wants to use it with an air cooled gpu, especially if they're expecting temps similar to what you'd get with an 011D - given that it's that one bottom to top airflow double chamber case which has given people the idea about how good gpu temps can be in these, and it should've been mentioned first thing.
The twin joke got me, I have a twin bro and I rather we stay as it is. 🤣
I'd also suggest looking at the Geometric Future Model 8 Dharma for a rare 90 degree rotated case like Silverstone used to make
i opted for a full tower case for maximum airflow. My old alienware was horribly loud, so for my new build i went with a huge case and 140mm fans all around for silence and cooling, and I also wanted to be able to watch DVD's and whatnot so I wanted a 5.25 bay. Phanteks Enthoo Luxe (tempered glass edition)
It's a shame nowadays that cases just don't have the CD/dvd / Blu-ray drive Bay having it in a computer opens up possibilities for attachments heck I was able to put an 8 USB Bay attachment in it so I could have eight controllers wired plugged in but I understand nobody uses CDs anymore so what's the point of having them in the cases to sell I just wish there was more thought because I feel like it's a neat feature even if you don't use it for a drive bay for CDs
At first it was the 5000X (and found the 5000T), but then I saw the 700 EVO, and I 😍it 🤩 (and cheaper that you said...)
Thanks for that review
Thanks so much. Really enjoyed it.
I got a hold of a case, with all the trimmings, from a company that most people hate now. I'm talking about the Alienware Area 51 R2. The (in)famous Triangle Case with RGB strips!
The system is a beast, first off....Liquid cooled 12 core i7, 32GB DDR4 3200 RAM, 1200watt Modular 80+ Gold PSU, 2060 6GB VC, and over 5+ Terabytes of SSD storage! I have to say, this case has seriously grown on me! Weird? Yep. Unconventional? Yep! Rommy interior? Oh yeah! Quiet. Cool. And totally BAD ASS looking, IMHO! Sure, Alienware is a hated brand now-a-days, but for the price I paid (let's just say EVERYONE out there would take it for the price I paid), it has been a great machine to have! I know, so much of it, as is, is proprietary, and hard to replace, but if the MOBO goes out, I can just mod it to take a "standard" ATX MOBO. The PSU is replaceable, as well as the cooler! The case allows for just about ANY size MOBO and PSU combination out there. I really get bored with standard "box" cases that are so prevalent in PC's today. Lian Lee is well known for "weird" cases, and I can understand the desire! This undoubtedly my most favorite case I have ever had in the 30+ years I've been into PC's. And NO, I ain't no MacNerd. Macs SUCK!
Great video Dmitry! Greetings from Greece! My top case is the NR200P
Lovely case and say hi to Greece 🇬🇷
-D.
Lovely case and say hi to Greece 🇬🇷
-D.
I f love the hyte y60 but the price here in europe its just to much and its so dificult to get one . I will buy one tomorow if i will find it at 200 dollars .Cheers.
I have a question with the Hyte Y60 case, is the floor of the inside metal or plastic? Like IF someone wanted to place a 360mm AIO in the front side space, could the floor right in that area be cut to allow for the taller RAD? That is the ONLY thing I REALLY did NOT like about this case, you should be able to install a 360 AIO in that place, and for some reason they allowed a 360 in the top but not in this area, when this area is a much better place for such a large AIO. Thanks.
Is that like a special edition strix card?? I've never seen the side lighting look like that and it's sick
I like the idea of the darkened mirror. My very first custom rig was a Cooler Master and I am looking for a new case to complete my build but I just cannot find ANYTHING in stock that has all the features or look I want. Frustrating time to build a PC that's for sure.
For full tower case go with thermaltake x71 tempered glass or corsair 7000D.
Absolutely LOVE the Cooler Master Haf 700 Evo. I have wanted that case since they first announced it. Ive been hoping GamersNexus would do a full review on it
He would probably hate it
The only case look as good as the 700 Evo is the Inwin Tou 1.0
55 POUNDS!! Jesus man. That case also should be 499$ of 549$ It would feel much easier to swallow. There's ZERO reason a case to be way more then halfway towards 1000$. That's just insanity.
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I love my H500p mesh, is that a full tower i think it is. I just remove the top while in use to let the 360 rad exhaust through the top. Remove the PSU shroud for better gpu cooling as well. Love this case.
cooler master all the way! my h500m going strong and will be used for a decade easily.
thought I accidentally left my Minecraft world open when I heard the beacon sound effects
Good video. That 700 EVO might be the one I would go for. That is, if I don't go for another one made by Phantex.
i still have my razer h440 because it’s so nice with the black and green never see anything like that anymore
Some nice cases for sure, but none of them for me dethrone the Corsair 1000D. But if I was going to replace it right now, that 700 EVO is really nice.
3:10 "timbits" i need to know if that was on purpose lol, if so... beautifully Canadian :)
I have the Cooler Master. I built a new LGA1700 system. I was actually trying to get in touch with customer support today. I love the case let me say that. My only issue besides it being $800 is the front glass louvers have dust inside the louvers. I tried to clean them until I realized it was actually inside. The case also has 2 of those 19 pin connectors. I had to buy an add on card as my mobo only had 1. I am talking about the blue connector.
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I wonder if Hyte will fit 4090 with regular coolers?
Happy with my torrent but this is a good list if I hadn't already bought a case.
I think Corsair should sell a screen to fit into that psu cutout.
I'm actually hoping caselabs returns so I can get a no compromise case for my next build.
Cases with 200mm fan are.. sexy.. Having little brother MasterCase H500M and it gives me happiness every day when i look at it. I hope Cooler Master will never kill 200mm case line.
these are some crazy prices just for a case!
nice video, thanks. The sound has alot of boomy room though.
Wasn't released this year but the Corsair 4000D Airflow is one of the best full ATX cases currently out there. Recommended!!😎
What should i buy for airflow ? Corsair 4000D, 5000D or p600s ? 😁
its not a full tower though, it's a mid tower.
Gpu height clearance? From the mobo to the glass side panel. This is the new info 4090 owners need to know to allow the 4090 and cables to fit without bashing the glass side or bending the cables too far.
Mid tower cases next???
I have old Cooler Master X. I really love its wheels
Wish Lian Li made full aluminium cases like they used to.