Improved Bone Meal Farm 1.18+
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- Showing a better moss based bone meal farm.
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does this work on papermc?
Tagging along, it seems to break on Spigot server. Cobblestone generates and sometimes stone get pushed into the lava
How can I make this on Bedrock version? I really want to build on it
I got the old one working. The improved one breaks for me. the piston timing makes it so it pushes the stone through the lava and extinguishes it.
@@James-gl1vi So you use the old version ?
Guys, when you're building this farm, do not forget to put one random item in the hopper/dropper clock two blocks right of the on/off switch! Without that the farm won't turn on.
Thank you!! I built this from a schematic taken from the world download and it took me AGES to work this out on my own.
omg thanks so much
Lifesaver
@@TacticalSatsuma i did the same thing lmao
thanks for the sanity check. litemactica was saying its was correct
4:46 You forgot the other 3 great alternatives: end portal frames, ender chests, and enchantment tables
End portal frames are such a great idea, gonna use them in my survival
@@AndreSkipper LMAO
A ender chest would work, but not a chest?
@@ezikhoyoNormal chests might actually not work. Wasn't their something about their hitbox beeing a bit wierd at times? Which is also why people used the ender chest for item alligment in water streams. But I have no idea if that is still relevant
@@racernatorde5318 with a normal chest the hopper would try to pull items from the chest, and would not pick up items on top of the chest
I love how you and DocM are tag-teaming the builds. First I see a slime farm on your channel then he builds it. He also builds a moss / bonemeal farm and I see it on your channel. Keep it up!
DocM has been representing (and crediting) the technical community really well this season IMO. Seems like Hermitcraft has been reinvigorated by folks just relaxing a bit and letting their own different styles of nerd shine.
I hope ilmango and other scicrafters are seeing an uptick in views/support.
That's the GOAT way, T for together 🐐
That's how the hive mind works!!
Does it work on bedrock Edition 🤔🤔🤔🤔
@@Kmirl bedrock has faster and smaller moss farms
To those wondering: This farm still works in 1.19.4, on singleplayer as well as on multiplayer servers. If the farm is not working for you, there could be several reasons:
1. Make sure you have an item in the hopper clock near the lever that powers the farm. Any item will do, but the farm will not operate without it.
2. Make sure all four dispensers underneath the farm are supplied with bonemeal. Technically, only one needs to have bonemeal to start, but it will take the farm time to build up enough bonemeal to feed the other 3 dispensers. If you want the farm to work and produce bonemeal right away, you would want all four dispensers to be completely full of bonemeal.
3. If the farm's lava keeps turning to stone, it is because you are leaving the chunks the farm is in. If the farm unloads and reloads, especially if it is built on a chunk border, the lava will turn to smooth stone, and the farm must be reset, which is a real pain to do. For best results, make sure that after you turn the farm on, you don't leave the chunks or log out until you turn the farm off again. Also, if your farm breaks and you have to reset it, make sure you remove the cobblestone that forms and don't let any of the pieces fall into your hoppers that feed the composters. If this happens, it will clog one of the composters, reducing your rates.
4. If the farm is STILL not working for you, make sure that you have built it correctly. All of the observers must be facing the right way and all of your repeaters must have the appropriate tick delay set. Use litematica and take a schematic when building to ensure you haven't missed any pieces.
5. This farm for sure works on a vanilla server as well as a fabric server. I can not say if it also works on a forge server, but maybe someone else can reply and verify that.
у меня проблема. поршни выталкивают камень и люки ломая ферму. могу скинуть скрин или видео
@@mihai7320 the best advice I have ate the 5 tips I posted above. Have you tried all of those and it’s still not working?
Ok, maybe i'm just blind but I don't see a hopper clock? Unless its that really big row of hoppers (which I doubt since it goes into a dispenser). I made sure the dispensers are filled though, i can't test tip 3 cause It won't even start. I gathered all the materials in survival then used the schematic to paste it into the world cause I was struggling to build it up without seeing which way to face certain blocks.
Ok, maybe i'm just blind but I don't see a hopper clock? Unless its that really big row of hoppers (which I doubt since it goes into a dispenser). I made sure the dispensers are filled though, i can't test tip 3 cause It won't even start. I gathered all the materials in survival then used the schematic to paste it into the world cause I was struggling to build it up without seeing which way to face certain blocks.
@@fidelianerina at the end of the long line of hoppers you should have two that have composters over them. You can put your one item in either of those hoppers.
This is sweet! I think I saw one of the versions in docm77’s video and I’ll probably use this in my smp with my friends. Great farm!
yeah its the one docm built
5:30 If you didnt already watch this to the end!!
Yep, that's this one I'm pretty sure as docm mentioned ilmango in his episode.
Without the diamond ore tho lol
Pretty sure ilmango and doc talk quite a bit. They collaberate.
Such a clean design and it's so satisfying to watch it working
The other thing with the bonemeal dispenser being put underneath is it allows for the top to be put on display, makes it look a lot cleaner and more fancy!
Recently I did a 24/7 tree farm and was looking for a good bone meal farm. This one is perfect! Huge thanks for that ilmango!
Which farm design did you use? :)
To help out anyone trying to build this farm, I compiled the exact list of resources you need!
8 Lava Buckets
5 Water Buckets
32 Packed Ice
400 Glass
4 Moss
280 Stone
18 Signs
30 Trapdoors
30 Composters
14 Barrels
61 Target Blocks
203 Building Blocks (White Concrete in the Video)
70 Observers
4 Dispensers
4 Droppers
77 Hoppers
155 Redstone Dust
88 Redstone Torches
24 Repeaters
6 Comparators
93 Sticky Pistons
32 Pistons
10 Activator rails
1 Redstone Lamp
1 Lever
4 Noteblocks
Lots of Bonemeal
(Please tell me if I missed anything!)
is this for the 1 module or 5?
@@corne_tns9532 just one of the modules
Just built it using this as a shopping list. I rounded most up to the nearest stack and was golden. Only issue was it needs 8 Lava buckets instead of 6. Bonemeal was 5 full stacks of Bone Blocks (320) to have enough bone meal (2,880) to pre-stage it.
Got a video to show how to build it too, LOL?
thank u
This farm need it a diamond ore for building block, improves the efficient by +30%
But it also increases griefing by 100% ;-)
At 5:43, you mentioned that you have to fill in the farm with stone before running it for the first time - there are alternatives. You can use any block that can turn into moss in place of the stone. That means you can use dirt, granite, or even moss if you wish.
I would just put stone beneath the water sources, disable the trapdoors from opening until the floor is built by the machine instead
The reason Doc asked was presumably to save himself the minor effort of adding the stone layer so replacing stone with something else wouldn't make it any easier and stone is obviously very cheap.
I just finished building a rewired version of yours on my HC world, but this is awesome! The underside moss system is a great find, and the compactness of everything is just amazing! Clean design, great video as always :]
you need to replace the white concrete with deepslate diamond ore like doc so it works better 🙄🙄 /j
it adds 400 horse power and uses less mspt
Actually depending on what monitor you have, using deepslate diamond may be better since it has darker colours than the white concrete hence might be rendered easier
But then that’d be client side efficiency rather than something that would actually affect the farm lol
@@Akhimed I don't know about the rendering effort being different, but at least the dark colors use less energy being displayed by your monitor :P
@@QuasarEE That's only if you have an OLED screen, too 😆 this isn't how things work, bubs @Brasev
If you disable the redstone line for the water flusher for the first cycle or two, you do NOT need to place all the stone by hand, just the stone under the waterlogged trapdoors
If anyone comes to a problem that some of the dispensers aren't converting stone to moss (although they are filled with bonemeal and there is otherwise seemingly nothing wrong with them), try putting something next to them (under the target block) that will cause them to update (a note block, a piston, etc.). It seems like Minecraft sometimes handles block updates incorrectly/unexpectedly.
If that doesnt work, try making sure that the observer that is moved in-between the two pistons is in the same spot as the other side
@@longbow3082 THAAAANKS MY DRILLA
@@longbow3082 not all heros wear capes
you are So Goated for this comment. ty!.
I like how clean it is and how you can see all the wiring. Going to have a go at building this. I am not a redstone and just like programming I fine it very confusing however I can see things visually in my head so we will see how I go.
This is possibly my favourite Minecraft farm.
It is pretty simple and cheap enough most can build it while providing an extremely useful resource (to facilitate so many other farms) and looking really cool in operation. And the ease of setting up one as an early farm and just expanding it as needed is icing on the cake.
And a new, cleaner version is awesome.
I built the old version in my world and I must admit it was a bit clunky to construct. This is definitely more elegant. Still no regrets building it; being able to funnel fully automatic bonemeal directly into my tree farm is a great feeling.
Thank you so much for making this because I’ve seen this on yours and Doc‘s TH-cam channel and I’ve really been wondering how to make it on my survival world
It's so cool to watch Doc build yours and others designs on hermitcraft. Can't wait to see what are the plans for the perimeter
This is a wonderful machine. Perhaps more accurately, it's a collection of machines all working together. Multiple ingenious timers, stone generator, collection system, moss generator, auto-composter... it's really incredibly how it all goes together.
I've been using this farm for a while, it's fantastic. I love how compact it is. RIP enormous watermelon patches for bonemeal.
i was wondering why doc's farm in the latest video had two-wide lava channels. now i know.
Works great in 1.19 still! I had an odd issue with block updates where every other dispenser would use bone meal once and then not fire anymore (the rest of them worked normally). I put a piston below the adjacent redstone line facing the dispensers to update them and now it works great. It could be an issue with the paper server that I was running on.
I think it os cause by paper, i had the sale issue
OMG needed this, I have only 1 dispenser doing it and it was driving me nuts trying to problem solve it.
I had the same issue and came looking for answers. I did build 2 modules and dispensers 3 and 5 were not working, every other was working fine.
had this issue too, thanks for the solution
absolute legend, knew it had to do with block updates next to the dispenser but didnt even think of a piston
This looks really good, nice compaction, Illmango, I'll make it this week :D Thanks!
WARNING! never leave this farm on in an unloaded chunk, it'll shit itself. same with closing the world with it on.
to start the farm put a stack of bonemeal in each hopper that feeds the dropper that feeds the moss (only the 2 on the water line)
besides that i just used the schematic and it worked perfectly.
ilmango been cranking out videos like crazy recently :o
Good one and I hope you're having fun
This works great in 1.19.2. This is a fantastic farm. I made this farm in my survival world for 1.19 to supply my flower farm (also from your channel). Thanks so much for the world download!
my lava turns to stone
@@bearIyy I also had that issue happen once, I have no idea why it happened its so weird, especially given that there is no obsidian, just stone.
@@martinshoosterman I just replaced it multiple times then it worked idk
@@bearIyy same
You are really just cranking out amazing content lately! I love it.
This has to be one of the most satisfying farms to watch
I have some thoughts that might be helpful in improving the farm. I would love to hear what you think about them.
-Moss generation target block selection seems to works like this: The game checks for air blocks at Y levels above the moss block's Y coordinate. Once an air block is found, the first non-air block below the air block is selected for moss generation. Blocks at Y-levels up to 5 blocks above the bonemealed moss block can be targeted for moss generation. This means that you can make a second stone floor, 2-3 blocks above the first one, that gets converted to moss by the same dispenser. If the dispenser bonemeals when the first floor is covered with water, the blocks from the second floor are selected for the moss conversion instead, since there are no air blocks between them.
-It is possible to have stone three generators push into one row of blocks if you sync them to push blocks every 10 game ticks. I did manage to make such one-wide tileable setup, but it was very bulky compared to what you have here.
-It's possible to collect the blocks using quasiconnectively powered sticky pistons that push down blocks and pull the items up into a static waterflow on top of the pistons. How would this compare to the water flushing used in this farm in terms of lag?
Really compact design! Big thanks
I use an insane amount of bone blocks on my builds, clean fast farms are always appreciated:D
Where that verified check at :p
I love these quicker videos about improving older farms with new tech
This would be more enderman proof as well, you could put a cover over it more easily. I built your first one in my base and had to do an inspection every time I started it up because they would either steal the moss block or leave grass or gavel blocks on the stone while it was inactive.
These crossover episodes are exceptional. I do so enjoy.
Who needs super-friends teamups when we have illmango and doc!
Hah, I was literally just planning to build a moss bonemeal farm to feed my tree farm that you designed. Perfect timing!
I built it with 2 segments in 1.20.1 and damn, this thing is a beast! An absolute must-have. But one hopper is not fast enough to collect and send all the items, so I needed to build 2 shulker loaders.
I know it's for big bone meal production, but it looks like it could be scaled down pretty easy as well for a single player world. It's very modular
Why scale down when you can scale up ? My goal in my single player world is to play creative mode in a surbival world. Basically, I want unlimited access to all blocks and items all while playing in survival. Even if you don't want to play like that, building mega farms is always better. By the time you are done building the farm you have more mats than you will ever need. That way you will reduce your afk time in your world.
Great farm as always, i've been using it for quite a while now, but recently noticed one issue (that i probably already had for quite a while, but i'll get to why i think that) while including some of the carpet autocrafting tables into my farms.
Sometimes moss carpets, seeds or (flowering) azealeas will make their way into the output (which in my case is rather unfortunate since it breaks my autocrafting tables and especially the shulker loader behind them. I think i had this problem for a while since in my previous version (without autocrafting tables) i used shulker loaders with filters, but couldn't remember why i built it like that.
My suspicion is that these random items make their way into the water stream by glitching through the glass next to the bottom moss block after the top of the moss block is cleared by the piston. I'll look into if i can fit a sneaky lava block that will burn those "artifacts" somewhere and see if that fixes my issue.
Update: My suspicion indeed turned out to be true and just adding lava next to the moss block that is bonemealed (basically add lava in the block that the piston pushes against, it will flow over the bonemealed moss block, but does not affect anything) fixes the issue and the output is 100% bonemeal now (tested for around 1 week runtime on my server).
genius, works perfectly. i was having the same problem and this fixed it tysm
King
I built his old moss bonemeal farm yesterday…
now you get the joy of building something new xP
lmao take it easy champ
I spend all day today getting the honey blocks for the old moss bone meal farm and then you release this😂
I tell you it's faster than the previous one. I love the design. And bit less laggy. I'm more hyped for this the 1.19 😂😂
great design. you are a talented and innovative mind, many thanks great stranger
across from piston that clears bonemeal moss placed mud with hopper below. it catches the items so they dont just hang out until despawn
Good work with improving old design!!
Whenever I run the farm, its ok (sometimes pieces of cobble and stone go up the lava area) but when I stop it, it just deletes all lava with stone, how do I fix this?
@ilmango Any idea how to increase the length of the pulse sent to the sticky pistons that control moving the stone that collapses the moss? The server I'm playing on, they only get a 1 tick hit, so they don't retract the block. Thoughts?
compactness is always appreciated
That's hella smooth looking
I had modified your older version to be more compact and cheap, guess I'll have to do the same with this one too now! haha
I did some testing and it produces 15k/hr with 3 modules when the old design produces 18k/hr with 3 modules.
Instead of water streams I use pistons with blocks that push down and then all the items more through the blocks up into a water stream up above it's a really fast way to collect
i managed to build half of this into the floor of my storage room and it looks so cool but its so overpowered that ive only turned it on three times
Is anyone else having problems with the lava sometimes being replaced by stone? The generated stone seems to be getting pushed up into the lava
that happened to me when i logged off without shutting it off
I faced a widespread stone issue today, after successfully running the farm AFK for several hours. It appears that new stone is generated and the pistons push the old stone back up - hitting the lava. Having just discovered this issue, I have only begun to look into a way to prevent it.
@@kelathos it only happens when the server lags or you unload the chunks but its realy annoying that it happens so often
@@kelathos have u found a way? This is annoying
@@umbraoverseer7272 i believe it also happens on higher than default tick speeds . I had set my tick speed to 12 (default is 3) since im a student a waiting for crops to grow just isn't optimal . My wood farm blew itself up and my sugarcane farm would break along with this issue of lava turning into stone , the problem got fixed when i defaulted my tick speed .
Thanks for this farm!!! I love you!!!
Any way to slow this down a bit? I'm on a public server with not so great tps, so the water doesn't go away at all and prevents the moss from growing.
Not sure if anyone else has had this problem, but when I built it, all of the moss bonemealing modules were working except for one. It was built just the same as others, but I was getting no moss on that stone area. You can fix it just by placing a downwards piston below the target block.
mega thank you for this comment!
Perfect! Thanks for the solution!!
Thank you!!
Hey I say you built this, how did you do it, is there a litmatica thing for it or a block by block Tutorial
@@YoungMan7282 I created a schematic from the world download that ilmago provided :)
Hey i Build the Farm on my Friends Server But the Lava Keeps getting turnend Into Stone,and the Farm breaks. Is ist because of lag or did i do somethimg wrong?
The piston, which is on the bottom left and right of this Glock, has to be placed one block further in, i.e. where the amplifier is at the moment. Where the psiton was put a concrete block with a redstone and the repteter moves one block further into the middle of the farm. The same on the other side. Before putting the farm into operation, it must also be checked that wherever there should be a stone, there is a stone, especially under the lava. Then the farm should actually work.
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I think the honey would be better than the signs due to the extra client lag that signs have
5:46 powering all trapdoors is so much easier than placing all the stone
I was having a left/right issue when I built the farm. I was able to fix it by making sure that the 3 count observer counter above the activator rails are both in sync. If they're on different stages they wont work.
Had exactly the same problem and exactly the same solution worked for me! :)
THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT WAS THE PERFECT ANSWER
Another ilmango farm!
We need a tutorial for this farm!!
Ilmango, still the best redstoner around, always enjoy his vids. However this is just too much lol. I went with something way less overkill and a lot prettier: 'space monkey bone meal farm'
Get to know litematica ;) it'll change your life :¶
u need litematica, copy the farm and paste on ur world, u can build it layer by layer
@@GabrielDonhauser where is the litematica download then?
@@larsmeeldijk5481 litematica is a mod that you can download from curseforge
This mod always you to copy a building from a world and place a blueprint of it in another, and you can build it layer by layer which just make life easier.
man i'd kill for a tutorial for this
Awesome, it's so small now!
Made an adapted version on bedrock and it works wonderful thanks
Not gonna lie, my game has crashed multiple times after I built the first one. This one is looking much sleeker in design and has less moving parts. Very excited to try it out.
Somehow. the hopper timer on the server im playing on is different same as the observer speed. so it keeps breaking the farm.
any fix to that?
hi guys, i dont know if ilmango says this but u need to put one bone meal into the hopper next to the lever (at the right) so it has 1 level of electricity xD and it works otherwise it wont. sry if ilmango clarifies this and im just being dumb
It can be any item
Thanks for the vid. I did have a question in its operation. Is there a reason why the "right" module of the farm (relative the the on lever) is delayed compared to the other half of the module? Thank you!
Maybe to spread out the lagg?
the old bone meal farm doesnt really work in my multiplayer server due to lags messing the stone generator and making cobble instead, where moss is impossible to grow on cobble and thus breaking the farm.
did you find a soloution????
@@mikesebber6751 wither skeleton farm for unlimited bone and bone meal
Thank you, ilmango 😊
I caused a wild fire when building this
Man, i'm trying to learn more Redstone, i find this farm fascinating, it took me a week to fully undestand it and make it work in My survival wold 😂😂
Top moss bonemal farm on TH-cam 👍
The second farm of il mango I built in my single player world after hos cobblestone darm🎉
Just doubled it👍
astonishing! all hail moss!
I think you forgot your diamond ore blocks ;)
Used this farm for 15 hours, no errors. But when it comes to turning it off, the lava 50% of times touch the water to gets removed, any fix?
i dont know why sometimes the lava + water became cobblestone and ruin the farm
I have the same probleme and I don t know how to fix it
@@quentinnalherbe7232 i cant find the solution so i just go and make a melon bone meal farm
@@k-kun39 A guys said he has the same probleme so he use the old version
@@quentinnalherbe7232 actually i found the cause is because when a lava flows in to water (not source block) it will make stone and opposite it will make cobblestone. So if the side line is created first then it blocks water, the lava will flow in the middle before the water and that make cobblestone. The solution might be using redstone to delay or something like that. Im not really good at redstone but if u want u can have a try
@@k-kun39 I think I had make a solution for the probleme but I cant test it on a serv
When i activate the farm the moss blocks are not dropping and sometimes cobblestone is generated
Great video!
Meanwhile me - A lazy bugger
*builds 16 module nether based iron farm*
*Uses poppies for bonemeal*
*Uses iron as disposable item for chunk loading*
i know its probably way too late to ask but, how did you figure out that 7 tick on 8 tick off pulse generator right next to the start lever ?
Thats a beautiful machine bro omg 😮
Ilmango: I used the bonemeal to create the bonemeal
Can someone help me i play on 1.20.2 build it with schematics but it doesnt work
Well this bonemeal farm kept making cobblestone, block the lava on top, and block the stone generator. Always like this when im afking on my tree farm
Can you guys explain to me why this happen? I have a lot of automatic farm turned on when afking making the world lagging, is it because of the lag?
what are the rates of the farm? idr if it’s mentioned in the world download or not
Ouuu being waiting for this after seeing docm video
How does the stone generator avoid snuffing out the lava when the double piston extender can't push the stone out of the way? Is is because the bottom pistons push up frequently enough to disrupt stone generation if there's still a stone block above the piston?
I have been having the same problem, have you figured it out?
@@hjool482 I play on Bedrock so can't really reproduce what I see here. But I think I had the right idea - it takes a certain amount of time after you pull stone away for the stone generator to make another piece of stone. If you push a block back up into that space before new stone forms, then there's no potential for new stone to get formed and pushed up into the lava source. When I experiment with a design like this on Bedrock and it starts extinguishing the lava, it seems to mean the machine is taking too long to re-extend those bottom pistons.
(I've been trying to reproduce the double stone generator from this video in Bedrock, unfortunately without quasi-connectivity I can't get a double piston extender to work unless I get a bit more creative... Best I've managed is a double piston extender with an extra block on it, but this makes it too slow because it has to retract that block. Probably I need to do something like his 1.17 bone meal farm, where there are two single stone generators on top of each other rather than one double stone generator...)
Quick question, I have basically the same setup in my hardcore world, but why the hell does my second piston not extend in the double piston stone pusher??
My first line of 14 observers looks at the array of sticky pistons, and the second line of observers looks into the first one, so that hopefully is out of the way.
Its probably the timing with the repeaters. If they are a Bit off ist doesnt work
Everyone watch docM77 thinking, huh, docs design looks very familiar to ilmango's.
In 1.19 on a multiplayer server, the water streams are preventing the moss to spread to the stone, what would be a possible fix? I tried delaying the trapdoor redstone line.
If you mean the water doesn't stop flowing before more is released, check the 'front' corner redstone bits. there may be some missing blocks there. I had something like this happen to me earlier today.
If anyone knows how to fix lopsided performance where one side produces half the moss growth as the other I would love to hear the solution though.
cant you also place dirt for the first time? should get converted too, not?
Amazing, I was just looking at the old farm too..
If I wanted to keep some of the moss, how many hoppers could I divert away from the composters before it's not longer self sustaining (per module)? Would even just two hoppers be ok?
Myabe this would be too complicated but you could try to read if the bonemeal hopper is filled, then activate the hopper that keeps some of the moss. When you need to refill it again, you block the hopper once more.
Also you can add a lever to make it run for moss, and not bone meal.
@@dantegomezbasualdo5507 good ideas. Thanks for the input.
Maybe instead of hoppers and composters on the central hole use a water stream to divert into a sorting system and throw the overfill into a composter array
5:50 Is it really though? If one disconnect the trapdoor redstone line one should only need to place stone up until below the trapdoors, then it will push the stones towards the signs, and then you reconnect the redstone line again?
true. that's a way to work around the issue
I think you could just fill it with cheap dirt too lol
I built this farm in 1.19.2 but whenever I unload the chunks the stone generators generate cobble stone and sometimes move up into the lava. Is there a fix for this or do I just not unload the chunks when running it?
I have the same issue, not sure how to fix it, belive the farm is running too fast for the server to keep up idk
You need to turn off the machine before you unload the chunk. Unloading the chunk while the machine is running will break it.