Hey BEAT family! This is a follow-up video from many of the questions you all asked on my video about "Can People in Heaven Watch What's Going on Here on Earth?" Many people made the claim that there are no people in heaven now. This video discusses the idea of soul sleep and whether or not that concept is biblical. Enjoy and let me know your thoughts below!
I liked your analysis of the song Too Good To Not Believe. I do think the verse about real life resurrection could be construed as metaphorically. When we are saved, to me that's "Real life Resurrection" even if no one comes back from the literal dead.
Let me start off by saying i would prefer your interpretation. - I noticed gap filling in all if not most of your examples.It's when a speaker takes advantage of a passage that could be considered non specific, and fills it in with their agenda. Gen 15:15 could be other things like burial site. I can go on about every single verse you examples let me jump to the endish - could it be that things were done differently before Christ in old t vs new t? I think so. It's the only way to explain the differences. I think it's pretty clear when that's brought into perspective and remembered. As the old t seems to back up going straight to and fro rather than sleep. - also there is the debate as you covered about Luke thief on the cross and also the fact that there is the proof that Jesus or God could have specially elected those exampled in ur statements. As Jesus elected resurrection of the little girl and Lazarus just like the thief?? - we can't ignore revelation book either and how many specifities are given that are clear cut about sleep rather than no soul sleep. I mean let's not ignore how many times it says "raise the dead " after the numerous times of talking about new T sleep. I think the key here is the difference of times with Christ on earth and when with out. Alot changed and it constantly mentions "believers". Ans pay attention and read the whole chapter it's actually opposite of what Allen's says. ***But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 NASB1995 Good day
Please, if you’re reading this and don’t mind praying ,please pray for my 1 year old baby girl Reign who has a very low white blood cell count.Thank you in advance!
@@thekeytokrissy1305 I prayed for you and just ask the Lord to be with you in this tough time and that he comforts you and helps you 🙏 and just know what is says in Romans. 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose 🙏
I don’t care if I sleep or I’m translated right away!! As long as I am in the first resurrection and I see my Lord! As long as I hear well done my good and faithful servant!!! As long as my salvation is secured in my Lord Jesus!! That’s enough for me!!
oh man ! Like you didn't read the bible..if died people had souls that go roaming around than the people who died and were resurrected by Jesus or his disciples would say so..but there is no written evidence in the bible..
@@Steve_from_318 Revelation 20:4-6 “And then I saw thrones, and sitting on them were those to whom judgment [that is, the authority to act as judges] was given. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had refused to worship the beast or his image, and had not accepted his mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead [the non-believers] did not come to life again until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. Blessed (happy, prosperous, to be admired) and holy is the person who takes part in the first resurrection; over these the second death [which is eternal separation from God, the lake of fire] has no power or authority, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and they will reign with Him a thousand years.” Revelation 20:4-6 AMP
@@manlommastivud6250 It’s a terrible thing to assume my brother! My statement is speaking to the fact that this doctrine in it self does not bring salvation if you do not have a personal relationship with Jesus and has received his salvation. Yet we still have to be wise in order to avoid the temptation of necromancy, in believing that the dead spirits are still roaming around, which in actuality are demons. Since you are curious, I do believe that we sleep until Christ returns. As the Bible states “Now we do not want you to be uninformed, believers, about those who are asleep [in death], so that you will not grieve [for them] as the others do who have no hope [beyond this present life]. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again [as in fact He did], even so God [in this same way-by raising them from the dead] will bring with Him those [believers] who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For we say this to you by the Lord’s [own] word, that we who are still alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will in no way precede [into His presence] those [believers] who have fallen asleep [in death]. For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven with a shout of command, with the voice of the archangel and with the [blast of the] trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain [on the earth] will simultaneously be caught up (raptured) together with them [the resurrected ones] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord!” 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 AMP And many other verses back this belief. I’m not however going to argue with people I do not know on the internet about such, or assume they do not read the Bible! Have a great day!!
Thank you Jesus! My son went home 5 years ago in a tragic drowning accident. But he was ready, Joseph knew Jesus, and was secure in him. Theses scriptures have given me so much comfort. Since his departure, I have purposely studied Heaven, this place that Jesus and our Heavenly Father have prepared for us! So excited for my son, even though I miss him everyday, I know Joseph is in good hands! I thank Jesus everyday for the cross, and becoming my sacrificial lamb for my sins. To all who receive Christ, gives us the right to become sons and daughters of the most high. Thank you for sharing these scriptures, I know them, but will meditate on them today. Grateful to be a part of the family of God! 🕊️🙏♥️
You mean to say that he is In heaven now enjoying the company of Jesus and then during the resurrection he will be sent back to earth just to be resurrected? Besides, how can someone be in heaven before the judgement? Jesus said when he comes again he will receive those faithful one? How can he receive them if they’re already there? So you also mean that there’s no resurrection? The Bible is clear about resurrection? As sad as it is to lose a loved one, it more sad to believe what this guy is teaching about what happens when someone dies. Can you remember who said that you will not surely die? Wasn’t it Satan through the serpent? What did God said? If you of it you will surely die? I’m sorry but this feel good false preaching about someone being in heaven when they die is serpent/Satan language.
Several years ago, I was working for a Christian company. One morning, the man bringing us the devotion for the day seemed rather "out of it." He left the chapel to return, with his wife, to his work area. On the way, he stopped and fell to the floor. He said one word as he left his body--"Jesus!" He obviously was not "going to sleep," but was joining his Savior, whom he saw and who was waiting for him.
Stephen fell asleep when the hateful Jews stoned him to death. The little girl whom Jesus raised up SLEPT like Lazarus (Mary and Martha's brother) did. The dead in Christ SLEEP until the last day/ last Trump/second coming (1Thes 4:13--17; 1Cor -5:51-53) 12:37
Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep. Job 14:13 O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me! Job 14:14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.
@@LRM5195 Then your god is must be a Dummy, God speaks in audibly to humans in different ways in fact He is speaking to all of us every single day. the question is do we all listen or even understand his voice? No,not many even the very body of Christ know His voice. but we listen to many voices speaking daily in our lives through our life experiences, heart, abilities and personality( temperaments)
I always use the illustration of a baby being born. In the womb they are in a familiar place. But when they come out they have no control. They are simply trusting in who is there delivering them. Whenever you die you enter into another room. If you’re anything like me you’re trusting in Jesus to be there waiting on you to receive you on the other side.
One second you're an autonomous being and the next you have 0 control over what's happening. I cannot even imagine the fear when non believers pass and open their eyes to see they were wrong their whole life.
What’s worse will be the fear and bemusement of those who believes in a false version of Christianity (which is the majority) only to be rejected by Jesus as he expresses to them, “I never knew you. Depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.” (MATTHEW 7:21-23)
My grandmother passed today. She was the anchor and backbone to many in the family. I can't sleep tonight as I am away from my family and taking refuge in God's word to comfort myself during this time. TH-cam somehow gave me this video and I know my grandmother was a believer, she taught me about Jesus, and now I know she is not sleeping, but in the very loving arms of our Lord and savior. This gives me great peace, but I am still hurting deeply... please pray for me and my family. She was 93 years old and passed after she got home from her doctor visit today..she taught me everything I know, and was there when I was born, through school, and all of my life.. I am truly heartbroken💔
God bless you and May He give you peace knowing that since you’re a believer that you will be with your beloved grandmother again one day. God bless you!
God bless you. I lost my dad around the same time you posted this comment. He also was a believer. A strong Christian and I have no doubt he is with Christ. This video is a confirmation.
@@buka.a prayers to you Abraham. May God's love and peace comfort you always. My grandfathers name is Abraham (and so is my uncle), it's family name so thank you for sharing.
The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods. Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29) So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One. This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets - to believe in the One True God. most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill. Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets. ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur’an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone. Watch some discussions between Christians and Muslims👇 (One Message Foundation) Thank you for reading the comment🌸 ..................................................................................................
You might be interested to know that the word "spirit" in the bible does not refer to the idea of the human soul even one time. Similarly, the word "soul" found in the new testament is actually the greek word "psyche" meaning "mind." At no point does the Bible actually suggest (at least in it's original languages of hebrew and greek) that there is a separate "soul" that leaves our bodies when we die. Interesting, huh?
Hello Beat family ,I wanted to share this with you guys. My mother was sick with liver cancer and in Feb of 2019 she departed with the lord. She lived in Florida and also my brother and sister. They got to be with her at her death bed and said their goodbyes. I at the time lived in Connecticut and even though i saw her for a few days for Thanksgiving of 2018 I didn't see her before she died. When i got to Florida she was already gone for 9 hrs because she die at 2 am and i got there at 11am. Out of all her kids i was the only one serving the Lord and was praying and fasting for her healing but God had other plans. A few months later i woke up from my sleep and on my bedroom wall the Lord showed me a vision of my mother in heaven. I was not asleep. I saw her well, not sick and she was in this huge beautiful Mansion . She was sitting down and there was a table right next to her with the most beautiful centerpiece of lots of flowers. She was at peace, at rest. This place was beautiful and i will share my testimony in my channel very soon. Too much to say here. I will never forget it, never! She was happy and not asleep.She was awake!
Thank you so much for sharing this. Did your mother appear younger in the vision the Lord shared with you than she had been when she passed away? As you did not share how old she was when she went heaven, I do not know if she was elderly or not, but, if so, I would imagine she is significantly younger in heaven. God bless you and I would love to hear more details of the vision the Lord gave you. 🙏 🕊
@@LilXancheX Acts 2:17 “’In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.” You shouldn’t be so cocky
I lost my husband/best friend of thirty years this past November; I was the only one in the room just before the angels took him Home. He couldn't speak, and tears were rolling down his cheeks. I gave him permission to go home; and let him know that I will be okay...and thirty seconds later he left.
@DiscipleDave DotCom Take out the log in your own eye before you puff up so high and mighty. You come off being very judgmental. That's a red flag! Judge not lest ye be judged. Jesus' grace is sufficient for us.
@@donnaroberts4513 You're right, she's not. She's in the grave without any consciousness.(Eccl.9:5) She has the hope of being physically resurrected here on earth.(Acts 24:15;Psalm 37:9,11,29;Matt.5:5;Isaiah 11:6-9) That's not the same as the 1st resurrection mentioned at Re.20:6
@@thokozilemagudulela7737 When verse 14 is read in context of that chapter, and all that Scripture cites regarding mankind's state in death and resurrections, God will bring to Heaven those who sleep in Jesus with Jesus (Him) when He returns to Heaven after gathering the dead in Christ (those who sleep in Jesus) who rose first and the living in Christ. While there are some who are in Heaven now who were resurrected and taken there (such as Moses and many of the saints who arose at Christ's resurrection, Matthew 27, Jude 1), verse 14 doesn't imply that when Christ returns the second time, He's bringing a vast group of people with Him to earth who had been previously in Heaven when they went there immediately at death.
She’s not in heaven right now she ceases to exist in the grave until Jesus returns. Rerember the dead in Christ will rise first. It wouldnt make sense if she’s in heaven with Jesus and we know that Jesus is comming to raise the dead from their graves. And I’f she’s in heaven that would mean she would make 2 trips to heaven. Heaven then back to earth to recieve her body then return back to heaven again ? Does that makes sense to you ?
I recently loss my mom and 3 days ago my brother. Thank you for this video as it is comforting. I will meditate and ask the Holy Spirit for a clearer understanding. Because I’m earnestly seeking wisdom from God, I’m certain He will bless my efforts.
I'm sorry to about your loss, your mom is in Heaven watchbg over you. Try to keep a bright smile on your face, your mom would want you to smile. I got love for you, your mom is in a blissful Home with our Heavenly Father. You have a bless life. She wants you to stay strong.
I agree with the commentator on this However, I think there's enough room for disagreement on this subject that we need not call soul sleep a "false doctrine". it's simply a different interpretation and a reasonable one. Ultimately we just need to do what Paul admonishes us to do and that is to be ready.
I agree it is very extreme to talk about “false doctrine”. The fact is there is a lot of Scriptures signaling the souls sleep until Judgement Day. I think The God Culture brings a much better and profound understanding of this biblical matter.
Actually you can dig a bit deeper into theology and history and find out it is a false doctrine. Ecclesiastes is a good example of the writer simply saying without god there is nothing worth anything. He says if there is no god then the dead know nothing.
Keep in mind that to God and Jesus, death is legitimately interpreted as sleep because only they can bring you out of it and re-animate, or RESURRECT you at will.
@@Deepthoughts4ever False message Sorry but if u study gods word you will find out that Your made of dust and spirit which is the breathe that's in you. when u die you will go to the grave while your breathe/spirit leaves your body. The dead are Sleep(unconscious)and will rise again John 14:3 Jesus says "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." Gen 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath or (spirit)of life; and man became a living soul. Psalms 146:4 "His breath(spirit) goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish."
Daniel:12 [13] “As for you, go your way until the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days, you will rise again to receive the inheritance set aside for you.”
What an amazing and comforting video, to be reminded that the loved ones I lost (believers) are right now in the presence of Almighty God and enjoying their time there!☺️🙏🏽🙌🏽
Ecclesiastes 9:5 King James Version 5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
You are absolutely spot on with your explanation of where we go when we die. I love listening to your videos, because so far everything that I have heard you speak on is directly from Scripture, and as John has told us to examine everything to make sure it is the word of God. Love you brother!
Just a little review of scripture would show you that he is indeed NOT spot on. He is wrong and adding interpretations to scripture that is contradictory to other scriptures.
John 5:28-29 “Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out-those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.
Luke 23: And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!” *43 And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”*
@@ralphralpherson9441 I heard an explanation many years ago that the translators inserted the comma in error. It should read, "...I say to you today, you will be with me in paradise" (as in the promise made in the moment was assurance for when the appointed time comea) Interesting!🤷
@@trj7078 That's a poor excuse. Where else in the Bible did Christ say "I tell you TODAY" or "Today I tell you the truth". If you go back to the original Aramaic/Hebrew, or even the Coine Greek it makes perfect sense. Jesus is talking about being in Heaven today, not qualifying "when he tells him". Not only is it obvious he's telling him "today" but it's totally unnecesary and uncharacteristic of how the Gospel authors portray Christ speaking. The typical wind-up seems to be "Verily I say unto thee" or "Verily I tell you"... but never, "I tell you this truthfully TODAY"... Jesus wanted to comfort the thief that TODAY, that day they would be in Paradise together because that theif had repented and had faith. Also, see my point about God being an infinite being outside of space and time. God has no need for 2000 years or 2 million years. God exists beyond time and above time. So the idea of an Infinite all-powerful deity needing to "put us to bed" for a few thousand years is just absurd on its face. The more LIKELY mistranslation is the word "sleep" since Biblical authors had no understanding of the brain and hence sleep, death, coma, unconsciousness, or a body at rest in a grave would all use the same word "sleep". The body sleeps, the body dies, the body goes unconscious... but the soul cannot, and it would seemingly be absurd for an Infinite Being to "put a soul to sleep" for a while. I'm going to put my faith into the words of Christ, and he told the theif that Paradise was just a few moments away. Jesus also told his disciples that "He will go to his Father in Heaven" upon the ressurrection. Peter saw Elijah and Moses (who weren't sleeping) and in Revelations John saw visions of souls in Heaven with God. I think the evidence and the logic stacks up to prove "soul sleep" is a false doctrine. It's also bizarre that only a few select sects of Christianity are the only faiths who espouse "soul sleep" and all other religions seem to share the concept of the immortal and eternal soul.
@@ralphralpherson9441 question, pls. Did Jesus go to paradise that day? John 20:17 : "Touch me not, for..." Please do not make Him a liar as he would be if He promised the thief "today". so since there were no commas before, the appropriate place of it is after the word "today", not before. thank you and God bless.
@@donieboy2303 Jesus went to Abraham's Bosom (holding place for the faithful dead which was Paradise. Eden was on earth and was Paradise before the Fall. Heaven was not the only paradise. PARADISE IS BEING FOUND IN CHRIST. The old testament faithful were all WAITING for God's promised Messiah and their FAITH IN GOD'S MESSIAH WAS COUNTED TO THEM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS. GOD is Faithful and sent His Son to bear all our sin on that cross and offered up to the Father as our perfect sin offering and in doing so He took the full undiluted wrath of God's judgment on sin IN PLACE OF THE BELIEVER IN GOD'S MESSIAH. It's always been about JESUS...precious JESUS...what a wonderful Savior!!!
Last year, I lost my youngest son to Covid at the age of 33. Not a day, hour or moment has gone by that I don't think of him. My tears haven't stopped flowing, for there is a void in my heart that is so painful. It's a pain that I wish upon no one. Christ knows of this pain, for it is written that upon hearing of his friend Lazarus' death, He wept. My son was a Beautiful and loving soul. Daniel's passing affected the community, to the degree to which people asked me "Who was Daniel?" They wanted to know who he was, because he was different from the ordinary; extraordinary. He motivated, encouraged and loved people. I live to see my son again. When The Most High gave me Daniel, He gave me an angel. This video through the Holy Spirit gave me comfort. Much love and blessings to you all!
@@anthonypena4931 Beloved, I want you to know that I am grateful to THE MOST HIGH for you! Today, I needed to hear this blessed message. It meant everything to me, and it put a smile on my face and in my heart! Much love and blessings to you!💖
My condolences but he’s not in heaven right now he ceases to exist in the grave until Jesus returns. Rerember the dead in Christ will rise first. It wouldnt make sense if she’s in heaven with Jesus and we know that Jesus is comming to raise the dead from their graves. And I’f she’s in heaven that would mean he would make 2 trips to heaven. Heaven then back to earth to recieve his body then return back to heaven again ? Does that makes sense to you ?
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@@bil.johnson_ But that was a parable, and not literal. If that were true, it means that people in hell can see what's going on earth. I doubt we can support that biblically.
”Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.“ John 11:23-24 KJV
I appreciate the biblical references given! Whatever we believe, it’s important to be able to back it up with scripture taken in context with a good hermeneutic!!
Allen has been exposed to the truth, but still finds ways to twist it. He may be among those mentioned here: "But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived." (2 Timothy 3:13)
I got word my niece passed away this morning. She had cancer and it had moved to her liver. She was a believer, thankfully, and I had some peace with that, but my oldest daughter had been very close to her. They weren't just cousins, they were best friends. My daughter texted me that she was having a hard time finding any joy even in the knowledge that her cousin was with Christ. This message popping up in my TH-cam feed today is absolutely the best gift of the Lord that I can share with my family today. Thank you, thank you, brother Allen🙏💕
Why don't you start sharing this the fact that we all die life is not permanent! All this other Bible nonsense you need to let it go and start living in reality, we will all be better off..🤔
@@donstrong1717 Please keep 'this bible nonsense' opinion to yourself and leave us who believe in it to find peace when there are issue that trouble us in this wonderful Spirit inspired letter from GOD
Thank you for this clarification. I lost someone 3 months ago and am still grieving, but know my girl is with the Lord it gave me comfort. I was told yesterday she is not in heaven she is sleeping until Jesus returns and it just shattered me. I didn’t know what you were gonna say so I was prepared for the worst and the Bible verses that you read gave me that hope thank you so much. God bless you. God bless us all. God bless my baby girl. I look forward to seeing her again someday.. ❤❤❤
Wen u cease to exist at death your next conscious thought will be Jesus comming on the clouds of heaven with the angels. That’s the presence of the lord. But wen death comes you don’t go to heaven immediately. death is an enemy it’s not some alternative route to heaven. If that we’re the case then we be ready to get killed to go to heaven but we all have a desire to live
@@chrisjitsu7166 if that’s the case then what’s the purpose of the ressurection? Isn’t Jesus comming back for the dead in Christ first ? The souls under the alter is symbolic
That text is so misquoted. People always leave off the first part and run with the last part of the text. It is true that IF we are absent from that old body and in our new body, we are present with the Lord. But that's not what the text says. I'm not sure if you are quoting the text right now or just making a statement that when we are out of our current body, we're with the Lord. If that is the case (that you are making a statement), then it is true. But since I've gone this far with this (because many people do misquote the last part of the text and erroneously believe that they go immediately to heaven upon death based on that), let me continue on. If one looks carefully at the text, it says, "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord." So, basically what it tells us is that WE'RE WILLING TO BE ABSENT (basically desire to be absent from that old body) SO THAT WE CAN BE PRESENT WITH THE LORD. It is not telling us that as soon as we die, we are present with the Lord -- That is what some believe, and that is so not true.
@@siouxfan1716 Grand Evening: When that chapter is read in its proper context up to that verse, it just simply means: Paul would rather be changed (absent) from the sin nature of the flesh ( from the body) and present with the Lord ( being pleasing to him while clothed in his righteousness). That scripture has NOTHING to do with death, dying and going to heaven as it is strongly implied in the subsequent verses.
Yeah, and there's also a verse in the Bible says you can beat your slaves as much as you want as long as they don't die within a day or two (Exodus 21:20) Am I to take that seriously? You should wake up and start living in reality and stop believing in fairy tales😵
4 - 4 - 22 Yesterday SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day was GREAT ! "" I AM the RESURRECTION ! "" John 11 : 25 NOT ONCE have you ANY Jehovah's Witnesses ANY Seventh day Adventist pn ANY of these threads have mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ JWS : SOUL SLEEP SDA : SOUL SLEEP JWS : NO HELL FIRE SDA : NO HELL FIRE JWS : ANNIHILATION SDA : ANNIHILATION JWS : Jesus the Archangel Michael SDA : Jesus the Archangel Michael JWS :.New 19th century FALSE religion SAME AS........ SDA : New 19th century FALSE religion JWS : Have their OWN Bible SDA : Have their OWN Bible JWS : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church . SAME AS........ SDA : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church JWS : Charles Taze Russell mentored by the Millerites SAME AS........ SDA : Ellen G White mentored by the Millerites ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH ( The CROSS ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@charles3200 5 - 21 - 22 Tomorrow will be PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day and it will be GREAT ! "" I AM the RESURRECTION ! John 11 : 25 That does not take away from the FACT the OBVIOUS IDENTICAL SIMILARITIES between Adventism and the Jehovah Witnesses on what I posted before your post on this very thread .....
@Marriage4life Interesting point. However, I do still feel like the promise to come back and "take you unto myself" applies to a physical resurrection. The spirit goes to be w/ the Lord. As apostle Paul said, "absent from the body means I will be present with the Lord" and that was, according to Paul, a 'far better' place to be than in his flesh. Stephen also prayed for Jesus to 'receive his spirit' upon being stoned. The thief on the cross was told that he'd be with Jesus in paradise "today". Moses and Elijah appeared with Jesus on the mount of transfiguration - yet we know that at least Moses had long since died. :)
After my husband passed away.... The next morning. I prayed so hard for God to show me that he was with him..... And He showed me a ball of REALLY BRIGHT 🌞 light shooting from here back into God where he came.....
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my grandfather left his body over 40 years ago. he had an outer body experience where he spoke with God. no one believed him(i did). Well before the age of internet where now its easy to type NDE, his experience was very similar to theirs. God told him if they didn't hear him they didn't hear God and to go spread His word. He was obedient to God and did so until last November in hospice where he earned the name "preachers man" by the nurses. He was my greatest teacher next to my father(who passed 6 years ago) and mother. I know they are loving paradise together.
I just noticed something I’ve never thought about before. When the rich man was in torment and saw Lazarus sitting at the side of Abraham, he still treated the poor man as someone who should be serving him. He asked Abraham to have Lazarus dip his finger in water and bring it to him. He didn’t even address Lazarus. He only wanted Lazarus to do for him. Is this a a reflection of the rich man’s heart? Even though he had died and was in torment his heart still was haughty. Still not loving and still only saw Lazarus as someone who should serve him? Also I’ve heard many say you do not burn until you’re thrown i to the lake of fire after judgement. But the rich man said he’s in anguish in the flames. So do you go to flames immediately? Are there flames in pre-judgement AND post?
@Yeshua's Words 4 - 19 - 22 You are a FALSE prophet if you THINK Jesus is coming back in the year of 2030 NO ONE knows when Jesus is coming back ( NO ONE ) Mark 13 : 32 Matthew 24 : 36 Jesus is GOD in the FLESH Jehovah's Witnesses are the Seventh day Adventists ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH ( The CROSS ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord. I Thessalonians 4:16-17 NKJV
The dead will rise first means that our physical bodies (spirits and souls intact) will walk out of the graves. This had nothing to do with where your soul goes after death.
4 - 4 - 21 Yesterday SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day was GREAT ! "" I AM the RESURRECTION ! "" John 11 : 25 Seventh day Adventistm are the Jehovah's Witnesses JWS : SOUL SLEEP SDA : SOUL SLEEP JWS : ANNIHILATION SDA : ANNIHILATION JWS : NO HELL FIRE SDA : NO HELL FIRE There is NOT ONE religion on the face of the planet that has more OBVIOUS IDENTICAL similarities between Mormonism and the Jehovah's Witnesses than that of Seventh day Adventism ( NOT ONE ) NOT ONE Jehovah's Witnesses and the Seventh day Adventists on ANY of these threads have mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ JWS : Jesus the Archangel Michael SDA : Jesus the Archangel Michael JWS : New 19th century FALSE religion SAME AS. ...... SDA : New 19th century FALSE religion JWS : Has their seat in NEW YORK SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND JWS : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church SAME AS....... SDA : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church JWS : Charles Taze Russell mentored by the Millerites SAME AS......... SDA : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church JWS : Favorite word SHUN SDA : Favorite word HATE A ) The minute you question their literature B ) The minute you question their authorities JWS : Has their OWN Bible SDA : Has their OWN Bible JWS : Charles Taze Russell has an Egyptian obelisk ALL seeing eye Freemason MASONIC TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun ...."" god "" above his gravesite......that still today stands tall and proud SAME AS........ SDA : Ellen G White Purchased an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye Freemason MASONIC TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun "" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above her and her husbands gravesite ANSWER Mathew 23 : 27 Jesus Christ does not like these MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONES ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH ( The CROSS ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it , Jesus - God - YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE !
I needed to hear this. Still new believer of a year and when someone told me that you sleep until the Lord wakes you up crushed me. I had a hard time with that. After this video I am back to joy that I WILL be with my father in heaven
Luke 23: And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!” *43 And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”* Sure sounds like the Man Himself meant TODAY, not 200 years from now... TODAY as He already paid the price for your soul that day.
Don't let it crush you. Jesus is worth waiting on. You are loved and a child of God. As you gain new information, ask the Holy Spirit to lead and guide you. Jesus is real. He came and saved us from the power of sin. When He returns, He will make all things new. Because of Him we can have life in Him now and for eternity. Be blessed.
I encourage to read and trust God’s word even when it says something you don’t like. If the thought that you’ll sleep until Jesus resurrects you crushes you then knowing God’s word will take that load off you because his truth always sets you free.
@@ralphralpherson9441 now placed that comma after the word today. You’ll see that Jesus was giving the thief the assurance that day that he will be with him in heaven one day. Jesus did not ascend into heaven after died he went to the grave
I don’t understand why your crushed at that death is not an alternative route to heaven death is an enemy. Death is not something we like. When u die u cease to exist its that simple the Bible never teaches that we have an immortal soul. The Bible says the soul that sinneth it shall die
Really! The malefector who was crucified with Jesus said, "Remember me WHEN you come in your kingdom." He knew that he wouldn't be in heaven that same day. He knwew it was upon the resurrection that he would be with His Savior. I could give so many examples from the Bilble. Marthe said to Jesus concerning Lazarus that she knew she would see him at the resurrection. Peter, speaking of David, said, his tomb is among us. Jesus said, no one has ever gone to heaven except the one that came from heaven. Jesus while speaking said; I will go and prepare a place for you and when I am done, I will come back and get you whereever I am, there you would also be. The Bile is so clear on this topic. See, I did not even enter into a doctrinal study of the subject, I only took just a few story lines from the Bible that do not require a lot of thinking to show that what he is teaching is false. And, Allen says it well. He says, this is what I believe. Therefore, he is correct, it is what he believes. In teaching the word of God, it's not a matter of what I believe, it is "thus saith the word of God." Allen Parr , although I believe he is sincere, but he is deceived by the devil. We can only pray that one day he can see clearly.
I know it's tough right now yet you were brought here for your well being,keep the faith in THE truth you Will get through this by the faith and knowledge you have in the Lord he can and will comfort you just ask. All of that to say it all work for for me when this happened in my life. try it thru the tears it works,much love my friend
Thank you so much for this video. My dad passed away from cancer several years ago and just before he passed, a preacher came to him and told him that anyone who doesn’t believe in the soul sleep just weren’t deep enough into Bible study. This totally confused me. I was going to ask you for a video on this exact topic and it’s like you read my mind. Again, God answers prayers in unusual ways. Thanks again. Have a wonderful day.
@@robertroberts9178 4 - 3 - 22 Good SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day ! "" I AM the RESURRECTION ! "" John 11 : 25 Adventism is Mormonism Adventism are the Jehovah's Witnesses Ellen G White was a SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy who PROMOTED CHRISTMAS DAY with a CHRISTMAS TREE in EVERY SINGLE Seventh day Adventist church ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH ( The CROSS ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
You need to accept the fact that your father is gone! We all die that's just the way it is we only get one life so live it to the best of your ability.. Don't listen to these fake preachers or pastors, it's not going to do you any good.😵
@@donstrong1717 Wow... you know Christ tells us to LOVE one another, not shout terrible things at people (your father is gone!) over the internet. That was one of the LEAST Christ-like things I've seen in these comments. Really... do better. Sure we all die but our soul is saved by the Blood of Jesus, paid for in full by our loving Savior. Anita, I believe you will be reunited with your father in God's loving arms upon death. "Soul Sleep" doesn't even make sense. God is INFINITE and exists outside of our Universe. Therefore he is not bound by, nor subject to Time. Time is a phenomenon of our Universe and CAN only affect those things WITHIN the universe. God Transcends the Universe and exists outside of our reality. He transcends it. So an Infinite God making all his children wait a "finite" period of time to reunite seems just... fundamentalist, literalist rubbish. It doesn't even make sense. Look deep into your heart and ask God for yourself, don't believe some mean person on the internet who has some self-serving need to be right about a scriptural argument. We have a God of Love... not of vengeance. Christ bought our souls from death the day he perished on the cross.
Well dang! This completely changes a lot of what I thought🤔. I personally don’t think our loved ones can look down on us. Plus watching over us, as SO many people believe. I think people think that too ease their minds 🤷🏽♂️. My mind always wander to this topic. Me and wife every so often talk about what it must be like after we die. That’s some of our best conversations that we have with each other. Sometimes our kids join our conversation as well. It then becomes a family discussion.
5For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes 9:5
When you are with the LORD you can only do as he allows.Sometime HE will allow a soul to guide someone.There are many cases of people on their death bed seeing someone who passed before them and even talking with them about their transition.
I agree. I think being able to see us still in our imperfect bodies and ways would be so depressing for the saints in heaven. Especially if they could see their loved one still an unbeliever.
Ezekiel 18: 4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die. Jeremiah 23: 16 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the Lord.
Um… Elijah could not have been sleeping because he never died. He was taken up alive in firey chariots… starting to wonder if you actually read these things…
@@truthbetold8610 2nd kings 2:11 Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven. Please, no matter who it is, double check with scripture first.
@@truthbetold8610 Deuteronomy 34 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁵ So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD. ⁶ And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day. “Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.” - Jude 1:9 (KJV) Moses showing up with Elijah at the mount of transfiguration is proof of his resurrection. He died, the Lord himself buried him, was resurrected, and Satan argued against it. likely the argument was because while Enoch had been taken without death, Moses is the first to be resurrected to eternal life and Jesus hadn't died on the cross yet so in a sense God was using his credit card on Moses (and Elijah and Enoch for that matter too)
It's STRANGE how people love to believe lies and opinions of men about "Grandma is looking down on me" rather than just believe what the Glorious Holy Bible says about the dead being in their grave awaiting the resurrection at the return of Jesus Christ!
@vax, tests = mark of beast 1 Nice opinion. . .Completely unbiblical but still a nice opinion. Beware of the coming National SUNDAY Law 666! REVELATION 13:17 And that NO man might BUY or SELL. . .666
Sorry but if u study gods word you will find out that Your made of dust and spirit which is the breathe that's in you. when u die you will go to the grave while your breathe/spirit leaves your body. The dead are Sleep(unconscious)and will rise again John 14:3 Jesus says "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also." Gen 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath or (spirit)of life; and man became a living soul. Psalms 146:4 "His breath(spirit) goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." Psalm 104:29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath (spirit) they die, and return to their dust.
@@silasr20 those souls under God alter were crying to him in revelation they don't seem sleeping to me lol we can use verses to bro lol soul sleep doesn't even make sense that's a Jehova witnesses teachings you believe in
@@chrisjitsu7166 that’s symbolic do you really think the souls under the alter will be concerned with such a thing about vengeance? No I do think so it’s a representation of all the martyrs who were killed for their faith.
@@silasr20 rich man and Lazarus story Jesus uses real names and people in this story even if it was a parable it sounds they went somewhere after they die and were very aware so is Jesus lying then ? Soul sleep u think is real then that vision of John had in the book of revelations about the souls crying out to God under his alter was false then so Jesus lied again? I seen the verses you guys use alot or the Greek translation u guys use alot for your argument but when we use our is a wrong translation or symbolic
1 Cor 5:8, does not say that. “Is to be” is no where in that verse! 2 Corinthians 5:8 KJV We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
I love your teaching Dr. Allen...This gives me great comfort that my parents and my three brothers are not in some bottomless pit on non-existence after they passed away like in the movie 300...They are now in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ who does all things well...
This is crazy… it’s a lot to think about. A best friend of mine died on Good Friday. It’s just so crazy to think that she was literally in Paradise with Christ on that day. Which would make her insanely happy. Her body suffered A LOT while she was here. Amazing. Absolutely amazing…
She’s not in heaven right now she ceases to exist in the grave until Jesus returns. Rerember the dead in Christ will rise first. It wouldnt make sense if she’s in heaven with Jesus and we know that Jesus is comming to raise the dead from their graves. And I’f she’s in heaven that would mean she would make 2 trips to heaven. Heaven then back to earth to recieve her body then return back to heaven again ? Does that makes sense to you ?
@@kirbytheservant that doesn’t take place until all the wicked that has ever lived are raised from their graves to be judged and destroyed by fire from god out of heaven along with Satan and his angels. They will be ashes under the soles of our feet I’ll give u scripture.
@@kirbytheservant Jesus said this For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
I was taught from a very early age that when we die we go to Heaven. My Nana,who I adored, died when I was 8, but my Mom explained she is in Heaven and we will see her again. Her friends said “Why don’t you just tell her she’s sleeping?” My Mom said why should I lie to her and if she thinks she’s just sleeping she will expect her to wake up” “If I’m going to raise her as a believer in Jesus I want her to understand why Jesus died and because of that when we die we go to Heaven” And when my Poppa died, the night nurse told us he was reaching out his arms and talking to someone. So I like to think that an Angel came to take him to Heaven and he could see my Nana waiting for him. It’s that blessed assurance that even though we mourn when someone dies we know they are in the most beautiful place ever.
Please get the wonderful truth of where your Mother is! While the soul in NOT immortal, and your Mother is in the grave, if she died in Jesus, she will be resurrected at Jesus' 2nd coming! Right now, she "knows nothing" (Eccl 9:5,6,10), and is not praising the Lord (Ps 115:17). But if she died in Jesus, she will live again, but not until then. th-cam.com/video/JlK5E_vDdI4/w-d-xo.html
You couldn't be more wrong, death is the same for humans and animals as the Bible clearly says. Are there animals going to Heaven? Do animals have a soul? Then neither do humans and anyone who thinks differently is putting their opinions as superior to Scripture.
@@truthbetold8610 5 - 11 - 22 Three days ago SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day was GREAT ! "" I AM the RESURRECTION ! "" John 11 : 25 #1 Your Jehovah's Witness FAKE religion is no different from Seventh day Adventistm #2 JWS : SOUL SLEEP SDA : SOUL SLEEP #3 JWS : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion DENOMINATION church SAME AS..... SDA : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion DENOMINATION church #4 JWS : Charles Taze Russell mentored by the Millerites SAME AS....... SDA : Ellen G White mentored by the Millerites #5 JWS : NO HELL FIRE SDA : NO HELL FIRE #6 JWS : ANNIHILATION SDA : ANNIHILATION #7 JWS : Jesus the Archangel Michael SDA : Jesus the Archangel Michael #8 JWS : New 19th century FALSE religion ( 1875 ) SAME AS........ SDA : New 19th century FALSE religion ( 1863 ) #9 JWS : WORKS based religion SDA : WORKS based religion #10 JWS : Has their seat in NEW YORK SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND #11 JWS : Have their OWN Bible SDA : Have their OWN Bible #12 JWS : Favorite word is SHUN your OWN family and friends SAME AS....... SDA : Favorite words are HATE or ATTACK A ) The minute one questions their literature B ) The minute one questions their authorities C ) The minute one questions their FALSE prophets "" Awake "" William Miller Ellen G White "" Watchtower " Joseph Rutherford Charles Taze Russell #13 JWS : Charles Taze Russell has an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun "" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above his gravesite SAME AS........ SDA : Ellen G White purchased an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun "" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above her and her husbands gravesite ANSWER Mathew 23 : 27 Jesus Christ does not like these MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONES dedicated to Jehovah's Witnesses ANSWER Romans 1 : 1 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH ( The CROSS ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
As usual, Allen did an awesome job, using scripture to prove our souls do not "sleep". Our bodies do "sleep" , but our spirit/soul is in heaven with God. Great job and thank you Allen. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Psalms 146:4 "His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish." Psalm 104:29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust. Gen 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul. Your made of dust and spirit which is the breathe that’s in you when u die you will go to the grave while your breathe/spirit leaves your body the dead are Sleep and will rise again John 14:3 Jesus says “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.”
Our spirit/ breath goes back to God but there is NO consciousness. Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die; but the dead do not know anything, nor do they have any more a reward; for their memory is forgotten. King David speaks of this as well in the psalms.
You’re right Bro. Allen!! “To be absent from the body IS to be present with the Lord.” 2 Corinthians 5:8. Blessings to all! Let’s STAY in God’s word and seek the Holy Spirit. Thanks for the break down.
I am under the impression that the soul is different from the spirit. God keeps us alive with his spirit, and when we die the spirit) immediately goes back to God ( read Gen. Chapter 6 vs 3), our souls don't have the capacity to maintain life in the structure. And Jesus called dead sleep.
You left the church then you should have never came back! Because all you came back to was a bunch of lies and deception.. You would have been better off staying away just believe in yourself and who you are as a person and what you represent.. What have you been born again into, a corrupt deceitful deceptive religion that only cares about money?🤔
Dear friend, when that term "out of the body is to be present with the Lord" (aka "absent from the body is to be present with the Lord") is read in context of what Paul shared in 2 Corinthians 5, he doesn't mention anything about dying and going to Heaven. When that chapter (and the book) is carefully studied, Paul was referring to being burdened in our earthly house, these bodies we live in. He said that he'd rather be clothed with his "house" (body) in Heaven. Yet, he said that he'd rather be absent (away) from this body (that is constantly burdened) and be with the Lord. No where did he insinuate, that some erroneously think, that when one dies they are immediately with the Lord. For Paul's point is shown in subsequent verses (like 9 and 10) that "whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him because everyone has to appear before the judgment seat of Christ." This subject is vital to understand because Satan's first lie he told mankind was on the topic of their state in death; and that when one dies, they don't surely die (Genesis 3).
@@Project144K the NT is clear about the intermediate state of the righteous. The text is clear, “In fact, we are confident, and we would prefer to be AWAY from the BODY and at home with the Lord. Therefore, whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to be pleasing to him.” “For me, to live is Christ and to DIE is GAIN. Now if I live on in the flesh, this means fruitful work for me; and I don’t know which one I should choose. I am torn between the two. I long to DEPART and be with Christ - which is far better - ” Philippians 1:21-23. When Jesus returns, our bodies are resurrected incorruptible (our new habitations FROM heaven, 2 Cor 5:2) and we live and reign with Christ on the earth, just as God always intended (1 Thess 4, 1 Cor. 15, Matt 5:5, Romans 4:13).
John 20: 17 - 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
Jesus didn't go straight to heaven, He stayed for 40 days to present himself to many to proof He's resurrected n conquered death. He also encourage n strengthen His disciples who were in fear.
Im now at one point in my life where I need to review my beliefs. I wondered fifteen days ago what happens when we die, eventhough I grew up in a christian home I doubted my beliefs when my grandpa died 15 days ago. A friend who is a jehovah's witness gave me this explanation of soul sleep n resurrection of the dead one day. Since I was so moved and emotional for my grandpa's death I accepted that but now with this video is like my eyes have been opened by reading those passages in the bible n with your explanation. I need to hear sound teachings. Blessings
The same state that you were in before you were born is the same state you are going to be in after you die. Unconscious, nonexistent. According to the Holy Bible
the jehovah's witness friend is correct. the dead simply return to the dust. and then when Jesus comes again soon, he will resurrect those who believed in Him to take them and us who are still alive to meet Him. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
So happy- yes JWs don’t have sound scripture and the ppl high up are corrupted and very dangerous men. Continue to stay in your Word and seek out a Biblical church. I love the content from Pastor Mike Winger on TH-cam too. God bless you and give you heavenly wisdom.
@@jandellko 4 - 4 - 22 Two days ago SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day was GREAT ! "" I AM the RESURRECTION ! "" John 11 : 25 Jehovah's Witnesses are the Seventh day Adventists JWS : SOUL SLEEP SDA : SOUL SLEEP JWS : NO HELL FIRE SDA : NO HELL FIRE JWS : ANNIHILATION SDA : ANNIHILATION JWS : Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery SAME AS......... SDA : Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery ( FAKE News GRACE Investigative Judgement ) JWS : Jesus the Archangel Michael SDA : Jesus the Archangel Michael JWS : Have their OWN Bible SDA : Have their OWN Bible JWS : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church SAME AS........ SDA : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church JWS : New 19th century FALSE religion SAME AS......... SDA : New 19th century FALSE religion JWS : Charles Taze Russell mentored by the Millerites SAME AS........ SDA : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church JWS : Has their seat in NEW YORK SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND JWS : Favorite word is SHUN SDA : Favorite word is HATE A ) The minute one questions their literature B ) The minute one questions their authorities C ) The minute one questions Ellen G White The Watchtower Joseph Rutherford Charles Taze Russell JWS : Charles Taze Russell has an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun "" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above his gravesite SAME AS......... SDA : Ellen G White purchased an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun "" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above her and her husbands gravesite JWS : WORKS based religion SDA : WORKS based religion JWS : Charles Taze Russell was a FALSE prophet SAME AS....... SDA : Ellen G White was a FALSE prophet What's more NOT ONE Jehovah's Witness or Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these threads have mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH ( The CROSS ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it , Jesus - God - YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE !
@@TheDbwillia The voice of authority who knows nothing. Winger is a phony preaching nothing but false man made doctrines, he is not PREACHING TRUTH! And you. Godzilla, need to learn something true for a change, you're deceived by the lies of Christendom.
This is what is happening when we are reading verses without the context "For we say this to you by the Lord’s [own] word, that we who are still alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will in no way precede [into His presence] those [believers] who have fallen asleep [in death]. 1 Thessalonians 4:15 AMP
Wow, that was a brilliant and enthusiastic presentation that got me even more confused. Mr. Allen, the scholar, the simplest text that I can quote is Genesis 2: 7. (Dust of the ground + breath of life = Living Being (Soul). That is how man had came into this world. Therefore, if a person die (sleep), it is just a reverse of how he is created. God take the breath of life, body goes back to the dust of the ground and we are left with nothing.
What great confusion is caused in the interest of someone (particularly false teachers) not wanting to humble themselves of God’s word! Instead, they try to piece together scriptures taken out of context or misinterpreted to fit a narrative that sounds good but lacks truth. “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.“
When you die you rest of the resurrection day that is the truth you rest until judgment day the Lord Jesus come back and claim all of his children ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Remember: the serpent in the garden told Eve “you shall not die…”, a lie millions and millions of Christians today believe. When we die, we do not shed our skin like serpents and continue to be alive in a different form. Believe God, not man. From dust we were formed and to dust we return. Death as sleep is true. When you die, you rest until your resurrection.
@@natashajeanbatistedarcisse8940 Well, i'm born Again Evangelist/Christian, but GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT teaches the opposite of Brother Allen in this video. Think about Lazarus. IF he was IN Heaven, WHY God Jesus resurrected him????🙄🧐 Also right now NO ONE yet is in the Lake of fire/Gehenna Revelation 20,21🧐 Jesus is YHWH EL SHADDAI😏✝
@@rickhuntling7338 It's all BIBLICAL - John chapters 3 |no one ascended to Heaven|, 11 |verses 11-14| Ecclesiastes 9 |the dead knows NOTHING|/1 Thessalonians 4 first the dead in CHRIST and after that we who are still alive... etc... God JESUS/YESHUA bless His people.😇 P.s. I forgot where but it's written that David is in the grave, but John 3 is more than enough..😌
@@НатанаилСталев-ф2р The ungodly are the walking dead lions the godly are live dogs. If you use your literal interpretation, everyone who dies has no more portion. 1st Thess. 4:14 JESUS brings the spirits of the people who will receive their glorified bodies Jn. 3:13 no man has ascended and come down from heaven. 3:14 is the future cross and crucifixion the Mose cross symbolized. You have a very selective distortion with scripture, lacking context and leaving out things.
I just listened to what you shared with us on the topic, what happens to you when you die. Having heard others speak and teach on this topic, I think the way you explained things and the scriptures you shared, is the best explanation I have heard so far. Thank you so much for taking the time to share what you have learned. I really appreciate it. I will share this with others.. Pastor Charles 2/24/23
@@pearlettadouglas4218 Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection. Shes preaching a false doctrine.
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection. Shes preaching a false doctrine.
I was unconscious for three days after a fatal car accident and I wasn’t saved at the time. I definitely was in a dream world being tormented. Hades/Shaol is real.
When we die the Bible speaks clearly of what happens to all of us…..Ecclesiastes 12:7 - “Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was; and the spirit shall return to God who gave it.” In other words, when a person dies, his or her spirit goes back to God (doesn’t say Heaven) the body returns to dust and the soul of that person comes to an end. That is why Job 27:3 says, “All the while my breathe is in me, and the spirit of God is my nostrils.” Ecclesiastes 9:5 says, “For the living know that they will die, but the dead know not any thing.” When you die you know nothing. You are not aware of what’s going on earth and you are not looking down from heaven because the dead knows nothing. In order to be conscious of anything you must have a soul. But a soul is the combination of body and spirit. When the two no longer exist together, there is no soul and there is no consciousness of anything. At this present time, no one is in heaven or hell. Acts 2:29 and 34 tells us that King David is both dead and buried and his grave is still with us today. But King David has not yet ascended into heaven. His body has turned to dust and his spirit is back with God and his soul no longer exist. If this is true for David, then it is also true for everybody else. Nothing happens to the dead until Jesus returns. I Thessalonians 4:13-18 makes it perfectly clear what happens when we die. The passage begins by saying the Lord does not want us to be ignorant about what happens to the dead in Christ. The dead in Christ refers to those who have died as saved or born again Christians as a result of accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. If you as a Christian, believe Jesus died and rose from the dead, then we too will eventually rise from the dead. And that will happen when Jesus returns. I Thessalonians 4: 16-17 says, “For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then, we which are alive and remain, shall be caught us together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we be with the Lord forever.” It is perfectly clear that we will all go to heaven at the same time. This eliminates anyone being able to say, “I got to heaven before you did
“And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.” Matthew 10:28 ESV The above verse clearly indicated that a person can kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Therefore, your notion that the soul cannot exist if the body and spirit are separated is wrong. And the soul is not a combination of the body and spirit, the soul is its own thing. “And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.” Matthew 27:50 NIV Here we see Jesus giving up His Spirit to the Father and died right after doing so. This proved that your spirit can be alive while your body is dead. So, you can also say that your soul can also be alive while your body is dead. “For you will not abandon my soul to Hades, or let your Holy One see corruption.” Acts 2:27 ESV The above verse clearly refutes the claim that a person soul comes to an end after death. How can the soul be abandon if the soul no longer exist after death? And you also misinterpreting Acts 2:29-35. Here Peter is referencing Psalm 16:8-11 to explains to the audience that these verses were referring to Jesus Christ and not King David himself. Because King David is still in the grave rioting but Jesus rose from the grave after 3 days. The soul is the combination of our mind, emotions, memory, feelings, and thoughts. These are the things that make us human. If your soul died, you cease to be YOU. “Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.” Matthew 11:29 ESV.
Do you believe that humans and animals have the same fate when they die? You should because that is Scriptural truth. (Ecclesiastes 3:19) for THERE IS AN OUTCOME FOR HUMANS AND AN OUTCOME FOR ANIMALS ; THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME OUTCOME. AS THE ONE DIES, SO THE OTHER DIES; and THEY ALL HAVE BUT ONE SPIRIT. So MAN HAS NO SUPERIORITY OVER THE ANIMALS, for everything is futile. This will require a complete rethinking of your beliefs if you want to know the real truth.
GET EM ALLEN!!! this was sooo helpful to me I really appreciate this topic there’s so much bad information out there but if you listen to the thousands and thousands of people who have had near death experiences not one single person said I went to sleep!!!!! they were instantaneously instantly with God the moment they left the body!! That has to count for something!
I believe the same thing. NDEs are too ubiquitous around the globe to be "just a sick brain event" or "a hallucination". When these people have these events, their brains are OFF. Period. Plus, as the brother of a paramedic and relative of many nurses and even a few doctors, there are COUNTLESS stories of folks reaching out for loved ones, or seeing dead relatives just at the moment they pass. Most important, why would an INFINITE GOD make us wait some FINITE time to reunite with Him? God is forever and infinite, He has no need for time and is not subject to time, only we are. So it seems bizarre to think God would say "no no no, wait another 2000 years to be with Me." when HE is not subjected to time, He exists eternally, beyond and outside of time.
Those were false testimonies because they weren’t truly dead. If they were dead they would experience nothing. Don’t believe in those false testimonies
I say we just go to God and allow the Holy Spirit to teach us and reveal it to us because man is gonna always have different opinions about these topics and bring in their own interpretations which can bring confusion and we know God and confusion dont mix at all but the Holy Spirit reveals even the Deep Things of God.
I think God probably won't reveal it to us anyways. Coz if the people from both sides of the argument actually spent time seeking answers from God concerning this matter, then they wouldn't even be debating about this. Just my thoughts...
@@nyaradzochivandire5758 exactly. I feel like this is a topic that won’t be revealed. All that matters at the end of the day is if all Christ believers have the same belief on salvation.
When the author of this video speaks about Paul here is a video giving the consistent interpretation: www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUezfQXEGnas&ved=2ahUKEwjd66y5--72AhUPXM0KHTIkDSg4FBDFrwF6BAgKEAU&usg=AOvVaw0LyYUVo-KJf5anLwLvox62
The Apostle Paul wanted his readers to know the truth about the resurrection. "But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep" (1 Thessalonians 4:13-15) Now is his letter God inspired? Early Hebrews didn't believe the soul and body separated. They believed the soul needed the body and the body needed to soul. It was greek belief most noticeably influenced by Plato who believed the soul was eternal and the body dies. In his letter to the corinthians, Paul is explaining why Jesus’s resurrection must be bodily. The corinthians believed Jesus soul was raised not his body. It's understandable why the corinthians would believed that because they were influenced by plato and greek thoughts
(…my reply to Allan Parr…please pray & consider the texts mentioned. (…thanks for sharing that text, Aaron Monroe!!…) Mr. Parr, so, you continue to keep to Satan’s preaching about death, that we, “…shall not surely die…” & this spiritualistic idea that we have an immortal soul…when the Bible teaches that man BECAME a living soul, after the breath of life was given. (…as the body w/out the spirit…so is faith w/out works dead…); “…go to your ancestors…”; “…gathered to your people…” wouldn’t that mean that they’re in one place already…like maybe a burial plot? Doesn’t Acts 2:29, 34 say, that the man after God’s own heart, was dead, buried & hadn’t ascended to heaven? So, David, still buried, was gathered with “his fathers”, asleep until, like He did to Lazarus & what He WILL do w/all that are “dead sleep”now(….pun INTENDED 😉), Jesus calls them forth, with a loud voice & at the time, a 🎺…”…& the dead in Christ will rise first…” (((…side thought, what’s the point of a resurrection, of we go right to God at death…what would be the need to change our “…vile bodies…” into glorified bodies, at that point?…))) “…today you will be with me in paradise!” Comma placed anywhere w/in that statement wouldn’t change the fact that Jesus didn’t even go right to the paradise of heaven that very day He, they died…”Good Friday”, but on the 1st day of the week, He told Mary not to restrain Him, for He had not yet ascended to the Father. Jesus IS the truth. So, did He lie to the thief about being in paradise w/Him THAT day? the Transfiguration: Elijah had been taken to heaven w/out seeing death (…via that fiery chariot…) & Moses actually died on that mountain overlooking the promised land that He was not permitted to go, but Jesus raised him from that death(…see Jude…), the first death.(…please reference what that means…) They were both there, in their glorified bodies…one having died & was raised,(…those that SLEEP in Christ1 Thessalonians 4:16…) & the other having never died(…”…in a twinkling of an eye…mortal puts on immortality…caught up to be with the Lord…” 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 / 1 Thessalonians 4:17…) “…the Lake of 🔥 is empty right now…” SO, WHERE IS THIS LAKE OF FIRE, RIGHT NOW?” “And they went up on ~the breadth of THE EARTH~ and encompassed the camp of the saints about and the beloved city and fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them…the devil that deceived them…the beast…the false prophet…death …hell & whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away…I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven…and I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, ‘Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men and He will dwell with them…”~ Revelation 20:9-15, 21:1-3 So, WHERE IS THIS PLACE OF TORMENT SUPPOSED TO BE & WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE OF God KEEPING THIS “MUSEUM OF SIN” AROUND, when we’ll already have “the books” to review, as well as the scars that will FOREVER remain on God Himself??? (…moved towards tears here! PLEASE THINK!!! reason with the text, with your gifted minds, lead by the Spirit of truth & make it make sense!!! Please!…)
@From Darkness To Light This is sound solid ground, We are told of the “mystery of The Gospel” and we are to search out Its rich treasures. I believe that seminaries and churches/ denominations really skew minds with wrong teachings/doctrine. If there is a New Heaven then does God move us out into a motel during renovations?! Does Gods send people to Heaven or to Hell BEFORE judgment day?! It’s incredible to me that the logic is faulty but people don’t want to let go of preconceived notions. I’m open to learn-but back to back with this presentation and scripture Allen P presented and the scripture and logic in your comments-one thing seems clear-TBWAP is missing some depth here.
@@TruthSetFree-zm1ep Read how GOD JESUS resurrected Lazarus. If Lazarus was IN Heaven, that will be so cruel from our Great Savior...🤔 But Praise YESHUA, He will loose NO ONE of them that His Father given Him John 6, 10, 17😌
May the Lord return quickly! Amen. God is merciful. He always forgives. Never be ashamed to take your failures to him. He is for you, not against you! God is with you in the storm. He knows your troubles, he hears you! He is for you, on your side, always! It may feel silent at times, but he’s holding you close! May the Lord return soon! We are drawing closer. He is coming! Believe and trust in the Lord, you will be saved. Period. May the Lord bless you all! Hang in there family. Stay strong. It is not easy following the Lord. We are scoffed at. We give up our earthly dreams, our fleshly desires. What the enemy offers is short lived, but heaven is forever! Life may seem or be unfair, but God is with you! Always remember that. Things may get better or worse for you, but a kingdom awaits you! Finish the race! Repent daily and carry your cross. This world is fading fast. Your troubles are temporary! New channel here, I’d appreciate any kind of support. Don’t give up! God loves you so much! So do I. The Lord bless you!!
@vax, tests = mark of beast 1 Where is the proof of your statement? I mean solid, biblical proof? I can prove to you that you're wrong. The mark will not be even offered until halfway through the Great Tribulation. And we are not in the Tribulation. The Tribulation won't begin until the AC signs a peace agreement with Israel, which hasn't happened yet because he hasn't been revealed yet. He won't be revealed until the Restrainer is removed. What is the Restrainer? The Church, the Body of Christ, the Bride of Christ! I think it's a darn shame that you haven't been taught, nor have you studied, the dispensations of the church. It is biblical teaching as it's orderly and logical, which is the way that God operates. And, BTW, don't just focus your attention on the book of Revelation, but also examine the books of Daniel, Ezekiel, and Isaiah. They all tie together with prophecies.
I’m Gay. But u believe in God the father son and Holy Spirit. I know and believe he died did my sins. I pray daily and don’t smoke drink. I have a realationship with God. I have other sins I deal with but. Will I go to hell for that one sin. If it is a sin tho. Cuz it’s me. I didn’t ask for it.
Great video. You mentioned at the end about other verses that talk about the dead knowing nothing. It would be cool if you addressed those in another video. Not to necessarily address soul sleep again, but to address the differences and what they may have meant. (so they aren't viewed as contradictory to what you used for disagreeing with soul sleep)
I totally agree, scriptures like this must be addressed, his video was very good. However, when it comes to the word of God all scriptures must be addressed
I can get u started. That phrase is in Ecclesiastes, and that book is written from mankind's perspective. The dead know nothing because dead bodies do nothing/lack agency. That isn't to say the spirit knows nothing once it has departed.
@@martinjakemckinnon5666 agreed but all scriptures can't be addressed in one video, and this subject I'm pretty sure has been addressed. As I've touched on it already in this string.
4 - 3 - 22 Good SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day ! "" I AM the RESURRECTION ! "" John 11 : 25 There is NOT ONE religion on the face of the planet that has more OBVIOUS IDENTICAL similarities between Mormonism and the Jehovah Witnesses than that of Seventh day Adventism ( NOT ONE ) ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH ( The CROSS ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@porfiriojohn5276 continue being ignorant and teaching others to be like you. You will definitely receive your reward. But what's the point of claiming to be a Christian yet perverting scripture?
Pst Allen, I follow your videos alot but about this lesson, Soul sleep as you say it is very biblical,, every verse quoted can be interpreted.. When we die, we neither go to heaven or hell
Thank you for making this follow up video to your previous one! I was surprised to see how many people in the comments section of that video subscribed to the doctrine of soul sleep. God bless you, Allen!
(…please reconsider your. Pasting my reply to Mr. Parr here to you too, bro! Please answer any questions asked here, biblically…) Mr. Parr, so, you continue to keep to Satan’s preaching about death, that we, “…shall not surely die…” & this spiritualistic idea that we have an immortal soul…when the Bible teaches that man BECAME a living soul, after the breath of life was given. (…as the body w/out the spirit…so is faith w/out works dead…); “…go to your ancestors…”; “…gathered to your people…” wouldn’t that mean that they’re in one place already…like maybe a burial plot? Doesn’t Acts 2:29, 34 say, that the man after God’s own heart, was dead, buried & hadn’t ascended to heaven? So, David, still buried, was gathered with “his fathers”, asleep until, like He did to Lazarus & what He WILL do w/all that are “dead sleep”now(….pun INTENDED 😉), Jesus calls them forth, with a loud voice & at the time, a 🎺…”…& the dead in Christ will rise first…” (((…side thought, what’s the point of a resurrection, of we go right to God at death…what would be the need to change our “…vile bodies…” into glorified bodies, at that point?…))) “…today you will be with me in paradise!” Comma placed anywhere w/in that statement wouldn’t change the fact that Jesus didn’t even go right to the paradise of heaven that very day He, they died…”Good Friday”, but on the 1st day of the week, He told Mary not to restrain Him, for He had not yet ascended to the Father. Jesus IS the truth. So, did He lie to the thief about being in paradise w/Him THAT day? the Transfiguration: Elijah had been taken to heaven w/out seeing death (…via that fiery chariot…) & Moses actually died on that mountain overlooking the promised land that He was not permitted to go, but Jesus raised him from that death(…see Jude…), the first death.(…please reference what that means…) They were both there, in their glorified bodies…one having died & was raised,(…those that SLEEP in Christ1 Thessalonians 4:16…) & the other having never died(…”…in a twinkling of an eye…mortal puts on immortality…caught up to be with the Lord…” 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 / 1 Thessalonians 4:17…) “…the Lake of 🔥 is empty right now…” SO, WHERE IS THIS LAKE OF FIRE, RIGHT NOW?” “And they went up on ~the breadth of THE EARTH~ and encompassed the camp of the saints about and the beloved city and fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them…the devil that deceived them…the beast…the false prophet…death …hell & whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away…I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven…and I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, ‘Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men and He will dwell with them…”~ Revelation 20:9-15, 21:1-3 So, WHERE IS THIS PLACE OF TORMENT SUPPOSED TO BE & WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE OF God KEEPING THIS “MUSEUM OF SIN” AROUND, when we’ll already have “the books” to review, as well as the scars that will FOREVER remain on God Himself??? (…moved towards tears here! PLEASE THINK!!! reason with the text, with your gifted minds, lead by the Spirit of truth & make it make sense!!! Please!…)
4 - 5 - 22 Two days ago SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day was GREAT ! "" I AM the RESURRECTION ! "". John 11 : 25 Jehovah's Witnesses are the Seventh day Adventists ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH ( The CROSS ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Ecc 12:7, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it". The living soul is a like a math equation. Dust + the spirit = a living soul. When we die the living soul ceases to exist, the dust goes back to dust and The spirit not your soul goes back to God.
I agree with you there and I find this guy's very shallow when it comes to this topic he just took verses to support his so called idea ...but his so called ideas are not biblically based but on his euphemism ...I would like to ask Allen to please delete the video and do justice etc etc theme at hand and not browse it...and when he has surely done his research come back to people this is sinful when you teach the wrong thing about the Bible and you are bold without facts ... let's start at creation when a man was created.. Genesis 2:7, "Then the Lord God formed a man[a] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being. n the book of Genesis 3:19 It is written "By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return." This is just tell us what happens when you die its just a reverse of the process that happened befor enough were created ...you were not there before you created you only became a living soul after God breathed on you and the reverse happens when you die ...you do not live again dust unto dust breath goes back to the one who gave it and it is not a living rather breath that God gave you . From Genesis 18:31, "Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, though I am nothing but dust and ashes..."proving that we are just ashes.. Like animals Dust to dust is mentioned in Ecclesiastes 3:20, "All are from the dust, and to dust all return." In the Bible, this passage emphasizes that humans and animals are no different and that everyone is made up of the earth and will return to the earth.
Ecclesiastes 9:5 reads, “For the living know that they will die, / but the dead know nothing; / they have no further reward, / and even their name is forgotten.” and ancestors that you mention about Abraham doesn't however nullify this fact stated above instead ask your self what does the word mean..Ancestor is dead Ed o. The dictionary mean one from whom a person is descended and who is usually more remote in the line of descent than a grandparent...so for Abraham being with ancestors doesn't mean he is alive with them it means he is bearied and is int he Graves the same way they are In the grave... you reference in the transfiguration is not based on the Bible because if uou know Elijah never died but taken to heaven by chariot of fire he is a living ancestor and if you wondering about Moses reaf Jude 25 ...
4 - 13 - 22 Jehovah's Witnesses are the Seventh day Adventists JWS : SOUL SLEEP SDA : SOUL SLEEP JWS : NO HELL FIRE SDA : NO HELL FIRE JWS : ANNIHILATION SDA : ANNIHILATION JWS : Jesus the Archangel Michael SDA : Jesus the Archangel Michael JWS : New 19th century FALSE religion ( 1875 ) SAME AS....... SDA : New 19th century FALSE religion ( 1863 ) JWS : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion DENOMINATION church SAME AS....... SDA : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion DENOMINATION church JWS : Favorite word is SHUN your OWN family and friends SAME AS........ SDA : Favorite word is HATE or ATTACK A ) The minute one questions their literature B ) The minute one questions their authorities C ) The minute one questions their FALSE prophets "" Awake "" Ellen G White "" Watchtower "" Joseph Rutherford Charles Taze Russell JWS : WORKS based religion SDA : WORKS based religion JWS : Has their seat in NEW YORK SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND JWS : Have their OWN Bible SDA : Have their OWN Bible JWS : Charles Taze Russell has an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun "" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above his gravesite SAME AS ....... SDA : Ellen G White purchased an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun "" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above her and her husbands gravesite ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH ( The CROSS ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER 2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH ( The CROSS ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! ANSWER Jesus Christ set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate Honeycomb and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY ! Luke 24 : 39 - 42 ANSWER GRACE G - Gods R - Riches A - At C - Christs E - Expense Try it , Jesus - God - YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I ! AGAPE !
@@mazukza You have good Bible knowledge but there is an error concerning Elijah. Elisha is rewarded for his faithfulness by seeing a fiery war chariot and fiery horses and Elijah ascending in a windstorm to the heavens, meaning the atmosphere. Elijah does not die at this time, nor does he go into the invisible spirit realm where God resides, but he is transferred to another prophetic assignment. (Joh 3:13) This is shown by the fact that Elisha does not hold any period of mourning for his master. A number of years after his ascension in the windstorm ELIJAH IS STILL ALIVE AND ACTING AS A PROPHET, this time to the king of Judah. Because of the wicked course taken by King Jehoram of Judah, Elijah writes him a letter expressing Jehovah’s condemnation, which is fulfilled shortly thereafter.-2Ch 21:12-15 Nor did Elijah upon death ascend to the spiritual heavens, since Jesus, while on earth, clearly stated that “no man has ascended into heaven.” (Joh 3:13
Brother Allen, I have changed my mind about my belief in Soul Sleep because of this video! I tried unsuccessfully to quit smoking so I could become a JW, but now thanks to you I don't have to! You saved me, God bless you!
@@ChrissyAnn85 10 - 9 - 22 Good SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day ! "" I AM the RESURRECTION ! "" John 11 : 25 #1 What is worse than smoking is the FALSE teachings of Adventism and the Jehovah Witnesses #2 Adventism are the Jehovah's Witnesses ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH ( The CROSS ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
As a Former Adventist PK who was raised on Soul Sleep this is the most succinct, Scripture Filled Rebuttal I have seen or heard. And done as always with gentleness and much respect. I will be sharing this video with both my current Adventist Family and friends and formers as well. Thank You .
10 - 10 - 22 Yesterday SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day was GREAT ! "" I AM the RESURRECTION ! "" John 11 : 25 #1 Ellen G White was a FALSE prophet #2 Adventism are the Jehovah's Witnesses ANSWER 1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4 ( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ His DEATH ( The CROSS ) His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED ) His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Hi Allen Parr, My mother was a righteous woman, she gave to people all her life and at age 68 - 69 she died from cancer. After her death and burial, she returned to me and said she was not sick anymore. She used to sing a lot, every day while she was alive and she came back after death, she was in a flesh-like body singing, the sun was shining in its glory and she said to me, "I am not sick anymore." I do believe that only the flesh dies because the spirit is immortal and cannot. Therefore; the spirits of the righteous go to a place of waiting and the unrighteous go to what we call hell. Before my mother died, at the last moment, she was talking to her mother who had already died! So they came to greet her and to welcome her into the spiritual world of life, waiting to return to serve in the government of The Almighty Jesus. The spirit cannot die.
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
My Brother died about two months ago and one experience that God allowed us to have was a supernatural confirmation that his soul is in Gods presence. We received Dreams and Visions that are aligned with scriptures on life after death. My brother did recognize JESUS as Savior and had proclaimed Christ as Lord but he struggled heavy on drugs and alcohol. All though the death of my brother is the most painful thing I have ever gone through specially cause his death was in a tragic way. Gods Truth tell us that Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit in someone that has called upon the Name of the LORD will be Saved. These last minutes or seconds of life on earth are between the person and God how beautiful it is for a person in their last breath to experience the Saving Grace of God but how devastating it will be to live eternity disconnected from him-Our God (Jesus). What Im learning is that Everyday has its own Urgency for us to trust and surrender more to the Lord and spread this HOPE IN Christ that only through faith in him alone we are saved and satisfied. Brother Allen I respected and enjoy your content for years and have been edified. Appreciate your dedication to facilitated Gospel conversations and SOUND advice. D-TOWERZ
Before you read the book of revelation you should read chapter 1 verse 1 and understand that we are talking of vision of things that are to take place.Not things that have taken place
Thank you Allen for good explanation. To add up... from my personal experience, I almost died in ICU and found myself running going up. I could not control my body but was able to think and ask myself question.. where am I going?? Then I found myself in a place where I could not explain the peace. So much peace. I saw so much people, each sitting in his chair so quiet so peaceful all in white. Then I arrived at a reception point, as I was being seated ( as you have no control over your motion, there is a force that controls you when you are dead not yourself) I awoke and found panel of doctor surrounded me. The a nurse told me"you are so lucky doctors where around, the situation was very bad" I told her I went very far up there... then nurses looked at each other with surprise. I was only 14yrs at that time. Therefore I know for sure.. there is life after death, and is GOD controlled.
This is NOT for HIS elect sheep/the believers in HIS Almighty Name, but for the religious people - John 6, 8,10,17... ...SEALED unto the day of redemption... Philippians 1😌
Every one that dies sleeps except the ones who God took to heaven by His will, the Bible teaches that when JESUS CHRIST comes back those who died in Christ will rise first....the Angel told daniel to go and rest till the time of the end then he would rise to his inheritance.
Anyone watching this: Brother Parr is teaching you how to properly use the WHOLE BIBLE when answering questions. Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth (BIBLE)... there will always be several verses to support a clear answer. If you're struggling, ask your study parter or follow your chain of study. Or, it may just be part of the God's Secret Things category. Everything we need is in the Bible. Brother Parr is teaching you how to study by example. Thanks, Brother Parr!
"And just as each person is destined to die once and after that comes judgment." (Hebrews 9:27) NLT Thank you Pastor Allen for sharing and explaining. God bless you and your TH-cam Ministry channel.
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
Then why does Jesus say "for no one has been up there in heaven" what's the whole point of Jesus second coming? To send everyone back to where they came from? Makes no sense.
@@margiebkeith8583 who him! Yes. ..... Lazarus was asleep. When Christ comes the dead in Christ will rise and the once alive in Christ will rise up to meet him in the air. Why I thought they were in heaven? Then the wicked in earth will be raised from their graves and be judged and condemned . The Bible also says "the dead know nothing's" is illusions of evil spirits. All in the word. And if it was for me come with scripture not just he wrong ok nice proof en evidence. Take a hike
@@margiebkeith8583 Where in the bible does it say that? In John 3:13 Jesus said out of his own mouth!!! "No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven-the Son of Man." And you said Moses and Elijah did where? They were examples of Jesus to come later. The sprit of Elijah rested on Elijah after that. Moses body was buried . Moses saw Jesus in the fesuture as it was an example of grace but they all resting with their ancestors. Asleep for the second resurrection. Only one up there is the son of man who came down and went up. That even Stephen saw Jesus standing next to God in heaven. Repent ! Keep in mind that Jesus said this way later after the story of Moses and Elijah.
An Old Testament passage that also refutes Soul Sleep, in my mind, is 1 Samuel 28. King Saul has the witch at Endor summon the Spirit of Samuel. After being asked why the Lord had abandoned Saul and rebuking Saul for his disobedience, Samuel warns the King that Saul and his sons will all be with him the next day. A couple chapters later, Saul and his sons are slain by the Amalekites.
Right. Also, consider the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. After they die, they go to their respective places and are fully aware where they are. They are not in some hibernation mode or something like that. They know where they are. So, if OT believers went to Abraham's side and knew they were there. Why would God not allow an NT believer to go to heaven where He is?
@@zurizzle Read the passage again. It clearly says that she summoned Samuel's spirit. Now, in some translations, she's called a Summoner of familiar spirits as well as a witch and a medium. However, in the act itself, she summoned Samuel, and is terrified by the act. Furthermore, Samuel speaks of his own accord and predicted Saul's death to the day it happened.
@@zurizzle Samuel speaks from the dead for the Lord, *Another SDA doctrine goes to Hades* In 1 Samuel 28: 5 times the inspired scripture by the Holy Spirit, emphatically and explicitly says it is Samuel speaking, not a Demon! *7 Then Saul told his officers, “Find me a woman who can talk to the spirits of the dead. I’ll go to her and find out what’s going to happen.” His servants told him, “There’s a woman at Endor who can talk to spirits of the dead.” 8 That night, Saul put on different clothing so nobody would recognize him. Then he and two of his men went to the woman, and asked, “Will you bring up the ghost of someone for us?” 9 The woman said, “Why are you trying to trick me and get me killed? You know King Saul has gotten rid of everyone who talks to the spirits of the dead!” 10 Saul replied, “I swear by the living Lord that nothing will happen to you because of this.” 11 “Who do you want me to bring up?” she asked. “Bring up the ghost (SOUL) of Samuel,” he answered. * (1st time scripture says ii IS Samuel, not a demon) 12 When the woman saw Samuel (2nd Time The scripture say is IS Samuel and not a demon!) , she screamed. Then she turned to Saul and said, “You’ve tricked me! You’re the king!” 13 “Don’t be afraid,” Saul replied. “Just tell me what you see.” She answered, “I see a spirit rising up out of the ground.” 14 “What does it look like?” “It looks like an old man wearing a robe.” *Saul knew it was Samuel,* so he bowed down low. (3rd Time The scripture say is IS Samuel and not a demon!) 15 “Why are you bothering me by bringing me up like this?” Samuel asked. * (4THTime The scripture say is IS Samuel and not a demon!)* “I’m terribly worried,” Saul answered. “The Philistines are about to attack me. God has turned his back on me and won’t answer any more by prophets or by dreams. What should I do?” 16 Samuel said: *(5TH Time The scripture say is IS Samuel and not (a demon!* ) If the Lord has turned away from you and is now your enemy, don’t ask me what to do. 17 I’ve already told you: The Lord has sworn to take the kingdom from you and give it to David. And that’s just what he’s doing! 18 When the Lord was angry with the Amalekites, he told you to destroy them, but you didn’t do it. That’s why the Lord is doing this to you. ( *Samuel * ) 19 *Tomorrow the Lord* will let the Philistines defeat Israel’s army, then you and your sons will join me down here in the world of the dead. A true Prophet, prophesies and the event comes true and so, Saul died the next day! NOW WATCH WHAT THE CLEAR (SIC) WORD BIBLE SAYS, " 14 1Sam 28:15 *CWB changes Samuel into an evil spirit!* “the evil spirit *personating* Samuel”; *“the spirit looked just lake Samuel and sounded so much like him, that Saul believed it really was the prophet”.* This is nothing more than a deliberate attempt to change the inspired holy writings to fit the heresy of Adventistsm DOCTRINE!!!
@@grahck4391 Samuel speaks from the dead for the Lord, *Another SDA doctrine goes to Hades* In 1 Samuel 28: 5 times the inspired scripture by the Holy Spirit, emphatically and explicitly says it is Samuel speaking, not a Demon! *7 Then Saul told his officers, “Find me a woman who can talk to the spirits of the dead. I’ll go to her and find out what’s going to happen.” His servants told him, “There’s a woman at Endor who can talk to spirits of the dead.” 8 That night, Saul put on different clothing so nobody would recognize him. Then he and two of his men went to the woman, and asked, “Will you bring up the ghost of someone for us?” 9 The woman said, “Why are you trying to trick me and get me killed? You know King Saul has gotten rid of everyone who talks to the spirits of the dead!” 10 Saul replied, “I swear by the living Lord that nothing will happen to you because of this.” 11 “Who do you want me to bring up?” she asked. “Bring up the ghost (SOUL) of Samuel,” he answered. * (1st time scripture says ii IS Samuel, not a demon) 12 When the woman saw Samuel (2nd Time The scripture say is IS Samuel and not a demon!) , she screamed. Then she turned to Saul and said, “You’ve tricked me! You’re the king!” 13 “Don’t be afraid,” Saul replied. “Just tell me what you see.” She answered, “I see a spirit rising up out of the ground.” 14 “What does it look like?” “It looks like an old man wearing a robe.” *Saul knew it was Samuel,* so he bowed down low. (3rd Time The scripture say is IS Samuel and not a demon!) 15 “Why are you bothering me by bringing me up like this?” Samuel asked. * (4THTime The scripture say is IS Samuel and not a demon!)* “I’m terribly worried,” Saul answered. “The Philistines are about to attack me. God has turned his back on me and won’t answer any more by prophets or by dreams. What should I do?” 16 Samuel said: *(5TH Time The scripture say is IS Samuel and not (a demon!* ) If the Lord has turned away from you and is now your enemy, don’t ask me what to do. 17 I’ve already told you: The Lord has sworn to take the kingdom from you and give it to David. And that’s just what he’s doing! 18 When the Lord was angry with the Amalekites, he told you to destroy them, but you didn’t do it. That’s why the Lord is doing this to you. ( *Samuel * ) 19 *Tomorrow the Lord* will let the Philistines defeat Israel’s army, then you and your sons will join me down here in the world of the dead. A true Prophet, prophesies and the event comes true and so, Saul died the next day! NOW WATCH WHAT THE CLEAR (SIC) WORD BIBLE SAYS, " 14 1Sam 28:15 *CWB changes Samuel into an evil spirit!* “the evil spirit *personating* Samuel”; *“the spirit looked just lake Samuel and sounded so much like him, that Saul believed it really was the prophet”.* This is nothing more than a deliberate attempt to change the inspired holy writings to fit the heresy of Adventistsm DOCTRINE!!!
Respectfully brother I think you’re wrong. Then why does Jesus say the day is coming for those that are asleep in the grave will hear my voice. God bless you brother.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Matthew 27:52-53 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, [53] And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
I’m so happy you decide to cover this video. I have been wondering about this recently and watching your old videos to try and figure it out. Truly believe God led me here!🙏🏽🙏🏽
*THE JW'S AND THE SDA BELIEVE LIFE AFTER DEATH THE FIRST BIG LIE??? A THOROUGH STUDY OF THEIR FAVORITE SCRIPTURES: GENESIS 2:17 AND EZEKIEL. 18 **th-cam.com/video/ROaMsPNaJPw/w-d-xo.html*
(…reply to Mr. Parr. Please pray & consider…) Mr. Parr, so, you continue to keep to Satan’s preaching about death, that we, “…shall not surely die…” & this spiritualistic idea that we have an immortal soul…when the Bible teaches that man BECAME a living soul, after the breath of life was given. (…as the body w/out the spirit…so is faith w/out works dead…); “…go to your ancestors…”; “…gathered to your people…” wouldn’t that mean that they’re in one place already…like maybe a burial plot? Doesn’t Acts 2:29, 34 say, that the man after God’s own heart, was dead, buried & hadn’t ascended to heaven? So, David, still buried, was gathered with “his fathers”, asleep until, like He did to Lazarus & what He WILL do w/all that are “dead sleep”now(….pun INTENDED 😉), Jesus calls them forth, with a loud voice & at the time, a 🎺…”…& the dead in Christ will rise first…” (((…side thought, what’s the point of a resurrection, of we go right to God at death…what would be the need to change our “…vile bodies…” into glorified bodies, at that point?…))) “…today you will be with me in paradise!” Comma placed anywhere w/in that statement wouldn’t change the fact that Jesus didn’t even go right to the paradise of heaven that very day He, they died…”Good Friday”, but on the 1st day of the week, He told Mary not to restrain Him, for He had not yet ascended to the Father. Jesus IS the truth. So, did He lie to the thief about being in paradise w/Him THAT day? the Transfiguration: Elijah had been taken to heaven w/out seeing death (…via that fiery chariot…) & Moses actually died on that mountain overlooking the promised land that He was not permitted to go, but Jesus raised him from that death(…see Jude…), the first death.(…please reference what that means…) They were both there, in their glorified bodies…one having died & was raised,(…those that SLEEP in Christ1 Thessalonians 4:16…) & the other having never died(…”…in a twinkling of an eye…mortal puts on immortality…caught up to be with the Lord…” 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 / 1 Thessalonians 4:17…) “…the Lake of 🔥 is empty right now…” SO, WHERE IS THIS LAKE OF FIRE, RIGHT NOW?” “And they went up on ~the breadth of THE EARTH~ and encompassed the camp of the saints about and the beloved city and fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them…the devil that deceived them…the beast…the false prophet…death …hell & whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away…I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven…and I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, ‘Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men and He will dwell with them…”~ Revelation 20:9-15, 21:1-3 So, WHERE IS THIS PLACE OF TORMENT SUPPOSED TO BE & WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE OF God KEEPING THIS “MUSEUM OF SIN” AROUND, when we’ll already have “the books” to review, as well as the scars that will FOREVER remain on God Himself??? (…moved towards tears here! PLEASE THINK!!! reason with the text, with your gifted minds, lead by the Spirit of truth & make it make sense!!! Please!…)
@@From_darkness2Life I was getting the feeling that Allen kept saying the next one was going to be better because he knew that what was just presented was wishy-washy at best. I would love for hime to do a live bible study with a channel like school for prophets.
I'm really glad Allen made this video as a response to the last video (that he mentioned)! I was one of the people in the original video that brought up the discussion of soul sleep. It is an understanding that I personally accept, and I look forward to hearing his response on the topic. I must admit that I don't have the time to watch the video now, but I plan to do so today, and I'm open to one of two outcomes. I hope to either learn something new that debunks my previous understanding, or if I still disagree, that I can later take the time to formulate a response on why I haven't changed my position. Soul sleep is not a concept that I passionately cleave to, and I'm perfectly willing to be swayed to whichever side of the debate aligns with the truth and I look forward to that possibility either way. Thanks Allen, in advance for the video!
"To be absent from the body IS to be PRESENT with the Lord". "For God so loved the world....SHOULD NOT perish" - Jn 3:16. "He that LIVETH and believeth in Me SHALL NEVER DIE" - Jesus, Gospel of John.
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
I remember another video you made about this and it helped me understand what happens when we die and this video just brought it back to the forefront of my mind, thanks for your teachings and God bless you.
Hey BEAT family! This is a follow-up video from many of the questions you all asked on my video about "Can People in Heaven Watch What's Going on Here on Earth?" Many people made the claim that there are no people in heaven now. This video discusses the idea of soul sleep and whether or not that concept is biblical. Enjoy and let me know your thoughts below!
Thank you Pastor Allen. Great video. 🙏🙏🙏 God Bless you my Brother
Thank you For this insightful video! GOD bless you and peace be with you and your loved ones. ❤️✝️🙏🌎
I liked your analysis of the song Too Good To Not Believe. I do think the verse about real life resurrection could be construed as metaphorically. When we are saved, to me that's "Real life Resurrection" even if no one comes back from the literal dead.
Hey Allen,
Can you do a video on pre tribulation vs post??
God Bless you and your family!
Let me start off by saying i would prefer your interpretation.
- I noticed gap filling in all if not most of your examples.It's when a speaker takes advantage of a passage that could be considered non specific, and fills it in with their agenda.
Gen 15:15 could be other things like burial site.
I can go on about every single verse you examples let me jump to the endish
- could it be that things were done differently before Christ in old t vs new t? I think so. It's the only way to explain the differences. I think it's pretty clear when that's brought into perspective and remembered. As the old t seems to back up going straight to and fro rather than sleep.
- also there is the debate as you covered about Luke thief on the cross and also the fact that there is the proof that Jesus or God could have specially elected those exampled in ur statements. As Jesus elected resurrection of the little girl and Lazarus just like the thief??
- we can't ignore revelation book either and how many specifities are given that are clear cut about sleep rather than no soul sleep.
I mean let's not ignore how many times it says "raise the dead " after the numerous times of talking about new T sleep.
I think the key here is the difference of times with Christ on earth and when with out. Alot changed and it constantly mentions "believers".
Ans pay attention and read the whole chapter it's actually opposite of what Allen's says.
***But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we shall always be with the Lord. Therefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 NASB1995
Good day
Please, if you’re reading this and don’t mind praying ,please pray for my 1 year old baby girl Reign who has a very low white blood cell count.Thank you in advance!
Prayer: Reign’s healing & your strength as God’s will manifest in Jesus name.
I pray for your baby girl’s healing. Lord wrap your arms around Reign. Touch her and heal her like only You can. In Jesus name, Amen.
@@Chickyandgiraffy amen! Thank you so much!
@@757ROM Thankyou so much!
@@thekeytokrissy1305 I prayed for you and just ask the Lord to be with you in this tough time and that he comforts you and helps you 🙏 and just know what is says in Romans. 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose 🙏
I don’t care if I sleep or I’m translated right away!! As long as I am in the first resurrection and I see my Lord! As long as I hear well done my good and faithful servant!!! As long as my salvation is secured in my Lord Jesus!! That’s enough for me!!
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oh man ! Like you didn't read the bible..if died people had souls that go roaming around than the people who died and were resurrected by Jesus or his disciples would say so..but there is no written evidence in the bible..
@@Steve_from_318 Revelation 20:4-6 “And then I saw thrones, and sitting on them were those to whom judgment [that is, the authority to act as judges] was given. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had refused to worship the beast or his image, and had not accepted his mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. The rest of the dead [the non-believers] did not come to life again until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. Blessed (happy, prosperous, to be admired) and holy is the person who takes part in the first resurrection; over these the second death [which is eternal separation from God, the lake of fire] has no power or authority, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and they will reign with Him a thousand years.”
Revelation 20:4-6 AMP
@@manlommastivud6250 It’s a terrible thing to assume my brother! My statement is speaking to the fact that this doctrine in it self does not bring salvation if you do not have a personal relationship with Jesus and has received his salvation. Yet we still have to be wise in order to avoid the temptation of necromancy, in believing that the dead spirits are still roaming around, which in actuality are demons. Since you are curious, I do believe that we sleep until Christ returns. As the Bible states “Now we do not want you to be uninformed, believers, about those who are asleep [in death], so that you will not grieve [for them] as the others do who have no hope [beyond this present life]. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again [as in fact He did], even so God [in this same way-by raising them from the dead] will bring with Him those [believers] who have fallen asleep in Jesus. For we say this to you by the Lord’s [own] word, that we who are still alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will in no way precede [into His presence] those [believers] who have fallen asleep [in death]. For the Lord Himself will come down from heaven with a shout of command, with the voice of the archangel and with the [blast of the] trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain [on the earth] will simultaneously be caught up (raptured) together with them [the resurrected ones] in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air, and so we will always be with the Lord!”
1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 AMP
And many other verses back this belief. I’m not however going to argue with people I do not know on the internet about such, or assume they do not read the Bible!
Have a great day!!
@@Steve_from_318 difference in facts and opinions 👀👀
Thank you Jesus! My son went home 5 years ago in a tragic drowning accident. But he was ready, Joseph knew Jesus, and was secure in him. Theses scriptures have given me so much comfort. Since his departure, I have purposely studied Heaven, this place that Jesus and our Heavenly Father have prepared for us! So excited for my son, even though I miss him everyday, I know Joseph is in good hands! I thank Jesus everyday for the cross, and becoming my sacrificial lamb for my sins. To all who receive Christ, gives us the right to become sons and daughters of the most high. Thank you for sharing these scriptures, I know them, but will meditate on them today. Grateful to be a part of the family of God! 🕊️🙏♥️
I'm so sorry for your lost, your son is in heaven now hope you will be ok
Sorry to hear that. Here is another great video that concerns your touching story: th-cam.com/video/JlK5E_vDdI4/w-d-xo.html
You mean to say that he is In heaven now enjoying the company of Jesus and then during the resurrection he will be sent back to earth just to be resurrected? Besides, how can someone be in heaven before the judgement? Jesus said when he comes again he will receive those faithful one? How can he receive them if they’re already there? So you also mean that there’s no resurrection? The Bible is clear about resurrection? As sad as it is to lose a loved one, it more sad to believe what this guy is teaching about what happens when someone dies. Can you remember who said that you will not surely die? Wasn’t it Satan through the serpent? What did God said? If you of it you will surely die? I’m sorry but this feel good false preaching about someone being in heaven when they die is serpent/Satan language.
I am So sorry for your loss, but your son us not in heaven now. He is in the grave , waiting for the return of Christ to awake him.
Allen is right on the money biblically! Your son is in the arms of Jesus!
Several years ago, I was working for a Christian company. One morning, the man bringing us the devotion for the day seemed rather "out of it." He left the chapel to return, with his wife, to his work area. On the way, he stopped and fell to the floor. He said one word as he left his body--"Jesus!" He obviously was not "going to sleep," but was joining his Savior, whom he saw and who was waiting for him.
Amen. No one can change my mind on that! Ever
I hope he died peacefully, personally for me I would be scared if that happened so glad he is with our savior 😊🙏
Stephen fell asleep when the hateful Jews stoned him to death. The little girl whom Jesus raised up SLEPT like Lazarus (Mary and Martha's brother) did. The dead in Christ SLEEP until the last day/ last Trump/second coming (1Thes 4:13--17; 1Cor -5:51-53) 12:37
Job 14:12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.
Job 14:13 O that thou wouldest hide me in the grave, that thou wouldest keep me secret, until thy wrath be past, that thou wouldest appoint me a set time, and remember me!
Job 14:14 If a man die, shall he live again? all the days of my appointed time will I wait, till my change come.
Adams blood cried to God from the grave.
My son died and I ask God where he went and God replied to me “His Spirit/breath has returned to the one who gave it” that was all God said!
Yeah that's a good thing 😄 he is in heaven
Then study, study, study God’s Word to ensure that one day (a long time from now), you join him. The Word we already have is how God normally speaks.
God doesn’t audibly speak to people though. That literally never happens and if it does you need to see a psychiatrist.
@@LRM5195 Then your god is must be a Dummy, God speaks in audibly to humans in different ways in fact He is speaking to all of us every single day. the question is do we all listen or even understand his voice? No,not many even the very body of Christ know His voice. but we listen to many voices speaking daily in our lives through our life experiences, heart, abilities and personality( temperaments)
@@franciskirunda5803 All of what you’re referring to is your brain and body. Has nothing to do with any “God”.
I always use the illustration of a baby being born. In the womb they are in a familiar place. But when they come out they have no control. They are simply trusting in who is there delivering them.
Whenever you die you enter into another room. If you’re anything like me you’re trusting in Jesus to be there waiting on you to receive you on the other side.
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This is a beautiful illustration. Thank you so much!!
Amen🙌
One second you're an autonomous being and the next you have 0 control over what's happening. I cannot even imagine the fear when non believers pass and open their eyes to see they were wrong their whole life.
What’s worse will be the fear and bemusement of those who believes in a false version of Christianity (which is the majority) only to be rejected by Jesus as he expresses to them, “I never knew you. Depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.” (MATTHEW 7:21-23)
My grandmother passed today. She was the anchor and backbone to many in the family. I can't sleep tonight as I am away from my family and taking refuge in God's word to comfort myself during this time. TH-cam somehow gave me this video and I know my grandmother was a believer, she taught me about Jesus, and now I know she is not sleeping, but in the very loving arms of our Lord and savior. This gives me great peace, but I am still hurting deeply... please pray for me and my family. She was 93 years old and passed after she got home from her doctor visit today..she taught me everything I know, and was there when I was born, through school, and all of my life.. I am truly heartbroken💔
God bless you and May He give you peace knowing that since you’re a believer that you will be with your beloved grandmother again one day. God bless you!
God bless you. I lost my dad around the same time you posted this comment. He also was a believer. A strong Christian and I have no doubt he is with Christ. This video is a confirmation.
@@buka.a prayers to you Abraham. May God's love and peace comfort you always. My grandfathers name is Abraham (and so is my uncle), it's family name so thank you for sharing.
@@tammi67able thank you love. I believe that very much. God bless you too.
@@iamtracywilson you’re very welcome
As an Ex Jehovah's Witness this is very encouraging 🥰!!
I’m
A ex jw mysejf
Oh praise God 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@mikekeyes78Glad to hear you left that cult behind.
Me too.
@@wizardofahhhs759says the group that follow pagan holidays & Europeans doctrine over scripture
Ecclesiastes 12:7 (HCSB): the dust returns to the earth as it once was,
and the spirit returns to God who gave it.
The single most important message of all prophets to their people was to worship God alone and none else and to follow His teachings. All of them, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Ishmael, Moses, Aaron, David, Solomon, Jesus, Muhammad and others, in addition to those we do not know - invited people to worship God and shun false gods.
Moses declared:"Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord."(Deuteronomy 6:4). This was repeated 1500years later by Jesus, when he said: "The first of all the commandments is, ‘Hear, O Israel; the Lord our God is one Lord.’(Mark 12:29)
So, the greatest commandment, the most important belief according to Jesus, is that God is one. If Jesus was God he would have said, ‘I am God, worship me.’ Instead, he merely repeated a verse from the Old Testament confirming that God is One.
This aligns with the mission of Jesus, as taught in Islam, where Jesus was sent to the Children of Israel to confirm the message of the past Prophets - to believe in the One True God.
most Christians nowadays believe in trinity.. Jesus said i came not to destroy the commandments of moses i came just to fulfill.
Muslims reject the Christian belief that God is a Trinity, not only because the Quran rejects it, but also because if this was God’s true nature, He would have clearly revealed it to Abraham, Noah, Jesus and all of the other prophets.
ISLAM is the submission in worship to Allah Alone and it is the essence of all the Messages sent to all nations before us. Allah is All-Just and All-Wise. He does not intend confusion for His Creation. The religion accepted to Him is the one chosen by Him. Its essence must be One, because He is One. It is free from geographical, racist, and status oriented concepts. It is Perfect and it is the complete way of life. All these qualities are chosen by Allah in His Only Religion: Islam. Its details are in in the Qur’an, read it and come with an open heart because none can expose better than the World of Allah. The Qur’an was revealed to Prophet Muhammad. He did not author it. He was unlettered. Its translation is available in many languages in bookstores or in an Islamic Center close to you. Take the time to read it and come/call the Islamic Center, or speak to someone who re-verted and submitted to Allah Alone.
Watch some discussions between Christians and Muslims👇
(One Message Foundation)
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You might be interested to know that the word "spirit" in the bible does not refer to the idea of the human soul even one time. Similarly, the word "soul" found in the new testament is actually the greek word "psyche" meaning "mind." At no point does the Bible actually suggest (at least in it's original languages of hebrew and greek) that there is a separate "soul" that leaves our bodies when we die. Interesting, huh?
@@walid4184 Except that time Thomas called Jesus “My Lord and my God” and He was like “Good job at finally getting the point.”
Hello Beat family ,I wanted to share this with you guys. My mother was sick with liver cancer and in Feb of 2019 she departed with the lord. She lived in Florida and also my brother and sister. They got to be with her at her death bed and said their goodbyes. I at the time lived in Connecticut and even though i saw her for a few days for Thanksgiving of 2018 I didn't see her before she died. When i got to Florida she was already gone for 9 hrs because she die at 2 am and i got there at 11am. Out of all her kids i was the only one serving the Lord and was praying and fasting for her healing but God had other plans.
A few months later i woke up from my sleep and on my bedroom wall the Lord showed me a vision of my mother in heaven. I was not asleep. I saw her well, not sick and she was in this huge beautiful Mansion . She was sitting down and there was a table right next to her with the most beautiful centerpiece of lots of flowers. She was at peace, at rest. This place was beautiful and i will share my testimony in my channel very soon. Too much to say here. I will never forget it, never! She was happy and not asleep.She was awake!
Thank you so much for sharing this. Did your mother appear younger in the vision the Lord shared with you than she had been when she passed away? As you did not share how old she was when she went heaven, I do not know if she was elderly or not, but, if so, I would imagine she is significantly younger in heaven. God bless you and I would love to hear more details of the vision the Lord gave you. 🙏 🕊
Lies
@@LilXancheX on what portion of the Holy Bible do you base your assertion?
@@LilXancheX Acts 2:17
“’In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams.”
You shouldn’t be so cocky
@@hobolove2468 I think Paul is quoting Joel and asserting that the day of Pentecost is the fulfillment of that prophecy.
I lost my husband/best friend of thirty years this past November; I was the only one in the room just before the angels took him Home. He couldn't speak, and tears were rolling down his cheeks. I gave him permission to go home; and let him know that I will be okay...and thirty seconds later he left.
@DiscipleDave DotCom what in the world gave you the impression that Opal serves Satan? Just curious how you came to that deduction? Wow 🤔
"I gave him permission to go home"
Wow. Sometimes they wait for reassurance from love ones, that's it's ok to go.
Study for yourself, my love
m.th-cam.com/video/X9SOgNYkS2w/w-d-xo.html
God bless you
@DiscipleDave DotCom Take out the log in your own eye before you puff up so high and mighty. You come off being very judgmental. That's a red flag! Judge not lest ye be judged. Jesus' grace is sufficient for us.
This is so comforting -Hallelujah-We’ll be with Christ after exiting this earth 🙏🏾
I lost my mom 5 years ago and this really gave me peace in my spirit that I know my moms in heaven and someday I see her again 🙏🏽♥️
Wow you all surely don’t know the. Bible . She is not in heaven I respect she is not in heaven. Please read 1 Thessalonians 4: 16-17.
@@donnaroberts4513 You're right, she's not. She's in the grave without any consciousness.(Eccl.9:5)
She has the hope of being physically resurrected here on earth.(Acts 24:15;Psalm 37:9,11,29;Matt.5:5;Isaiah 11:6-9) That's not the same as the 1st resurrection mentioned at Re.20:6
@@donnaroberts4513 Why do you ignore verse 14 ?
@@thokozilemagudulela7737 When verse 14 is read in context of that chapter, and all that Scripture cites regarding mankind's state in death and resurrections, God will bring to Heaven those who sleep in Jesus with Jesus (Him) when He returns to Heaven after gathering the dead in Christ (those who sleep in Jesus) who rose first and the living in Christ. While there are some who are in Heaven now who were resurrected and taken there (such as Moses and many of the saints who arose at Christ's resurrection, Matthew 27, Jude 1), verse 14 doesn't imply that when Christ returns the second time, He's bringing a vast group of people with Him to earth who had been previously in Heaven when they went there immediately at death.
She’s not in heaven right now she ceases to exist in the grave until Jesus returns. Rerember the dead in Christ will rise first. It wouldnt make sense if she’s in heaven with Jesus and we know that Jesus is comming to raise the dead from their graves. And I’f she’s in heaven that would mean she would make 2 trips to heaven. Heaven then back to earth to recieve her body then return back to heaven again ? Does that makes sense to you ?
I recently loss my mom and 3 days ago my brother. Thank you for this video as it is comforting. I will meditate and ask the Holy Spirit for a clearer understanding. Because I’m earnestly seeking wisdom from God, I’m certain He will bless my efforts.
I'm sorry to about your loss, your mom is in Heaven watchbg over you. Try to keep a bright smile on your face, your mom would want you to smile. I got love for you, your mom is in a blissful Home with our Heavenly Father. You have a bless life. She wants you to stay strong.
sorry for the losses! I lost my grand dad yesterday! 😢😢😢😢😢
9 - 8 - 22
Four days ago SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
I agree with the commentator on this However, I think there's enough room for disagreement on this subject that we need not call soul sleep a "false doctrine". it's simply a different interpretation and a reasonable one. Ultimately we just need to do what Paul admonishes us to do and that is to be ready.
I agree it is very extreme to talk about “false doctrine”. The fact is there is a lot of Scriptures signaling the souls sleep until Judgement Day. I think The God Culture brings a much better and profound understanding of this biblical matter.
Actually you can dig a bit deeper into theology and history and find out it is a false doctrine. Ecclesiastes is a good example of the writer simply saying without god there is nothing worth anything. He says if there is no god then the dead know nothing.
Keep in mind that to God and Jesus, death is legitimately interpreted as sleep because only they can bring you out of it and re-animate, or RESURRECT you at will.
@@cmorales5 references please... Don't simply comment
@@Deepthoughts4ever False message Sorry but if u study gods word you will find out that Your made of dust and spirit which is the breathe that's in you. when u die you will go to the grave while your breathe/spirit leaves your body. The dead are Sleep(unconscious)and will rise again John 14:3 Jesus says "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."
Gen 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath or (spirit)of life; and man became a living soul.
Psalms 146:4 "His breath(spirit) goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish."
Brother u are one of the very few that understand what happens to u when we die God bless keep up the good work
Daniel:12
[13] “As for you, go your way until the end. You will rest, and then at the end of the days, you will rise again to receive the inheritance set aside for you.”
can you explain this scripture
🎯 Amen.
Also the words of Martha according to Lazarus in the New T,
God JESUS is Not a liar - John 3:13😌
Yeah he's very good at twisting scripture isn't he? Speaking of the guy in the video
What an amazing and comforting video, to be reminded that the loved ones I lost (believers) are right now in the presence of Almighty God and enjoying their time there!☺️🙏🏽🙌🏽
Makes sense from all of the NDE stories I've heard.
Ecclesiastes 9:5
King James Version
5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten.
Yeah this guy is very good at twisting scripture
Don't forget John 3:13: And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
@davidhood4776 true.
You are absolutely spot on with your explanation of where we go when we die. I love listening to your videos, because so far everything that I have heard you speak on is directly from Scripture, and as John has told us to examine everything to make sure it is the word of God. Love you brother!
Just a little review of scripture would show you that he is indeed NOT spot on. He is wrong and adding interpretations to scripture that is contradictory to other scriptures.
John 5:28-29
“Do not be amazed at this, for a time is coming when all who are in their graves will hear his voice and come out-those who have done what is good will rise to live, and those who have done what is evil will rise to be condemned.
Luke 23:
And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!”
*43 And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”*
@@ralphralpherson9441 I heard an explanation many years ago that the translators inserted the comma in error. It should read, "...I say to you today, you will be with me in paradise" (as in the promise made in the moment was assurance for when the appointed time comea)
Interesting!🤷
@@trj7078 That's a poor excuse. Where else in the Bible did Christ say "I tell you TODAY" or "Today I tell you the truth". If you go back to the original Aramaic/Hebrew, or even the Coine Greek it makes perfect sense. Jesus is talking about being in Heaven today, not qualifying "when he tells him". Not only is it obvious he's telling him "today" but it's totally unnecesary and uncharacteristic of how the Gospel authors portray Christ speaking. The typical wind-up seems to be "Verily I say unto thee" or "Verily I tell you"... but never, "I tell you this truthfully TODAY"... Jesus wanted to comfort the thief that TODAY, that day they would be in Paradise together because that theif had repented and had faith. Also, see my point about God being an infinite being outside of space and time. God has no need for 2000 years or 2 million years. God exists beyond time and above time. So the idea of an Infinite all-powerful deity needing to "put us to bed" for a few thousand years is just absurd on its face. The more LIKELY mistranslation is the word "sleep" since Biblical authors had no understanding of the brain and hence sleep, death, coma, unconsciousness, or a body at rest in a grave would all use the same word "sleep". The body sleeps, the body dies, the body goes unconscious... but the soul cannot, and it would seemingly be absurd for an Infinite Being to "put a soul to sleep" for a while. I'm going to put my faith into the words of Christ, and he told the theif that Paradise was just a few moments away. Jesus also told his disciples that "He will go to his Father in Heaven" upon the ressurrection. Peter saw Elijah and Moses (who weren't sleeping) and in Revelations John saw visions of souls in Heaven with God. I think the evidence and the logic stacks up to prove "soul sleep" is a false doctrine. It's also bizarre that only a few select sects of Christianity are the only faiths who espouse "soul sleep" and all other religions seem to share the concept of the immortal and eternal soul.
@@ralphralpherson9441 question, pls. Did Jesus go to paradise that day? John 20:17 : "Touch me not, for..."
Please do not make Him a liar as he would be if He promised the thief "today".
so since there were no commas before, the appropriate place of it is after the word "today", not before.
thank you and God bless.
@@donieboy2303 Jesus went to Abraham's Bosom (holding place for the faithful dead which was Paradise. Eden was on earth and was Paradise before the Fall. Heaven was not the only paradise. PARADISE IS BEING FOUND IN CHRIST. The old testament faithful were all WAITING for God's promised Messiah and their FAITH IN GOD'S MESSIAH WAS COUNTED TO THEM AS RIGHTEOUSNESS. GOD is Faithful and sent His Son to bear all our sin on that cross and offered up to the Father as our perfect sin offering and in doing so He took the full undiluted wrath of God's judgment on sin IN PLACE OF THE BELIEVER IN GOD'S MESSIAH. It's always been about JESUS...precious JESUS...what a wonderful Savior!!!
Last year, I lost my youngest son to Covid at the age of 33. Not a day, hour or moment has gone by that I don't think of him. My tears haven't stopped flowing, for there is a void in my heart that is so painful. It's a pain that I wish upon no one. Christ knows of this pain, for it is written that upon hearing of his friend Lazarus' death, He wept. My son was a Beautiful and loving soul. Daniel's passing affected the community, to the degree to which people asked me "Who was Daniel?" They wanted to know who he was, because he was different from the ordinary; extraordinary. He motivated, encouraged and loved people. I live to see my son again. When The Most High gave me Daniel, He gave me an angel. This video through the Holy Spirit gave me comfort. Much love and blessings to you all!
I’m sure Daniel is rejoicing and can’t wait to see you 😁
@@anthonypena4931 Beloved, I want you to know that I am grateful to THE MOST HIGH for you! Today, I needed to hear this blessed message. It meant everything to me, and it put a smile on my face and in my heart! Much love and blessings to you!💖
My condolences but he’s not in heaven right now he ceases to exist in the grave until Jesus returns. Rerember the dead in Christ will rise first. It wouldnt make sense if she’s in heaven with Jesus and we know that Jesus is comming to raise the dead from their graves. And I’f she’s in heaven that would mean he would make 2 trips to heaven. Heaven then back to earth to recieve his body then return back to heaven again ? Does that makes sense to you ?
@@anthonypena4931 he’s not in heaven he’s gone. In the grave until Jesus returns
According to the word of God, we go to the grave after death and wait resurrection at the second coming of Jesus.
That’s…A bit scary…Are we just asleep until then? What happens during that?
The STUDY OF HADES AND THE GRAVE FROM SCRIPTURE. th-cam.com/video/gzzAkzwVWww/w-d-xo.html.
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No when Jesus talked about the rich man parable he woke up in hell
@@bil.johnson_ “Woke up”??? You totally fabricated that!! That’s nowhere in scripture
@@bil.johnson_ But that was a parable, and not literal. If that were true, it means that people in hell can see what's going on earth. I doubt we can support that biblically.
”Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again. Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.“
John 11:23-24 KJV
Amen sister!
I appreciate the biblical references given! Whatever we believe, it’s important to be able to back it up with scripture taken in context with a good hermeneutic!!
Btw, Jesus did not go to paradise that day. A couple days later when He resurrected, He told Mary, touch me not I have not yet ascended…
Allen has been exposed to the truth, but still finds ways to twist it. He may be among those mentioned here: "But evil men and impostors will grow worse and worse, deceiving and being deceived." (2 Timothy 3:13)
@@jo9354 that verse says it all. Also see Acts 2; 29-34 not even King David went to Heaven. He is also waiting for Jesus.
@Fu Inle... I hope you are right.
Maybe because paradise is not the same as heaven?
@@grahamwhitman5515 exactly
I got word my niece passed away this morning. She had cancer and it had moved to her liver. She was a believer, thankfully, and I had some peace with that, but my oldest daughter had been very close to her. They weren't just cousins, they were best friends. My daughter texted me that she was having a hard time finding any joy even in the knowledge that her cousin was with Christ. This message popping up in my TH-cam feed today is absolutely the best gift of the Lord that I can share with my family today. Thank you, thank you, brother Allen🙏💕
Why don't you start sharing this the fact that we all die life is not permanent! All this other Bible nonsense you need to let it go and start living in reality, we will all be better off..🤔
@@donstrong1717 Please keep 'this bible nonsense' opinion to yourself and leave us who believe in it to find peace when there are issue that trouble us in this wonderful Spirit inspired letter from GOD
Thank you for this clarification. I lost someone 3 months ago and am still grieving, but know my girl is with the Lord it gave me comfort. I was told yesterday she is not in heaven she is sleeping until Jesus returns and it just shattered me. I didn’t know what you were gonna say so I was prepared for the worst and the Bible verses that you read gave me that hope thank you so much. God bless you. God bless us all. God bless my baby girl. I look forward to seeing her again someday.. ❤❤❤
To be absent of the body is to be present with the LORD
Exactly
Wen u cease to exist at death your next conscious thought will be Jesus comming on the clouds of heaven with the angels. That’s the presence of the lord. But wen death comes you don’t go to heaven immediately. death is an enemy it’s not some alternative route to heaven. If that we’re the case then we be ready to get killed to go to heaven but we all have a desire to live
@@silasr20 u made no sense
@@chrisjitsu7166 if that’s the case then what’s the purpose of the ressurection? Isn’t Jesus comming back for the dead in Christ first ? The souls under the alter is symbolic
That text is so misquoted. People always leave off the first part and run with the last part of the text. It is true that IF we are absent from that old body and in our new body, we are present with the Lord. But that's not what the text says. I'm not sure if you are quoting the text right now or just making a statement that when we are out of our current body, we're with the Lord. If that is the case (that you are making a statement), then it is true.
But since I've gone this far with this (because many people do misquote the last part of the text and erroneously believe that they go immediately to heaven upon death based on that), let me continue on. If one looks carefully at the text, it says, "We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord." So, basically what it tells us is that WE'RE WILLING TO BE ABSENT (basically desire to be absent from that old body) SO THAT WE CAN BE PRESENT WITH THE LORD. It is not telling us that as soon as we die, we are present with the Lord -- That is what some believe, and that is so not true.
There is also a verse that says, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.
2 Corinthians 5:8 We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
@@siouxfan1716 AMEN
@@siouxfan1716
Grand Evening:
When that chapter is read in its proper context up to that verse, it just simply means: Paul would rather be changed (absent) from the sin nature of the flesh ( from the body) and present with the Lord ( being pleasing to him while clothed in his righteousness).
That scripture has NOTHING to do with death, dying and going to heaven as it is strongly implied in the subsequent verses.
Grand Evening to you Miss:
Please read my reply to @siouxfan.
Yeah, and there's also a verse in the Bible says you can beat your slaves as much as you want as long as they don't die within a day or two (Exodus 21:20) Am I to take that seriously? You should wake up and start living in reality and stop believing in fairy tales😵
John:11
[23] Jesus told her, “Your brother will rise again.”
[24] “Yes,” Martha said, “he will rise when everyone else rises, at the last day.”
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Yesterday SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
NOT ONCE have you
ANY Jehovah's Witnesses
ANY Seventh day Adventist pn ANY of these threads have mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
JWS : SOUL SLEEP
SDA : SOUL SLEEP
JWS : NO HELL FIRE
SDA : NO HELL FIRE
JWS : ANNIHILATION
SDA : ANNIHILATION
JWS : Jesus the Archangel Michael
SDA : Jesus the Archangel Michael
JWS :.New 19th century FALSE religion
SAME AS........
SDA : New 19th century FALSE religion
JWS : Have their OWN Bible
SDA : Have their OWN Bible
JWS : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church
. SAME AS........
SDA : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church
JWS : Charles Taze Russell mentored by the Millerites
SAME AS........
SDA : Ellen G White mentored by the Millerites
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH ( The CROSS )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Jesus was speaking of the resurrection there not what happens immediately after death.
@@charles3200
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Tomorrow will be PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day and it will be GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION !
John 11 : 25
That does not take away from the FACT the OBVIOUS IDENTICAL SIMILARITIES between Adventism and the Jehovah Witnesses on what I posted before your post on this very thread .....
Jesus wept, and told her those that are gone(and believe) will rise again, those that Believe in me now will NEVER die. Lazarus came forth.
@Marriage4life Interesting point. However, I do still feel like the promise to come back and "take you unto myself" applies to a physical resurrection. The spirit goes to be w/ the Lord. As apostle Paul said, "absent from the body means I will be present with the Lord" and that was, according to Paul, a 'far better' place to be than in his flesh. Stephen also prayed for Jesus to 'receive his spirit' upon being stoned. The thief on the cross was told that he'd be with Jesus in paradise "today". Moses and Elijah appeared with Jesus on the mount of transfiguration - yet we know that at least Moses had long since died. :)
After my husband passed away.... The next morning. I prayed so hard for God to show me that he was with him..... And He showed me a ball of REALLY BRIGHT 🌞 light shooting from here back into God where he came.....
I believe we rest in the grace and will be resurrected when Jesus comes back.
The STUDY OF HADES AND THE GRAVE FROM SCRIPTURE. th-cam.com/video/gzzAkzwVWww/w-d-xo.html.
*LIFE AND DEATH AND THE FAILURE OF ADVENTIST'S TO UNDERSTAND IT! A THOROUGH STUDY OF GENESIS 2:17 & EZEK 18 **th-cam.com/video/ROaMsPNaJPw/w-d-xo.html*
Really? So when Paul said to die is gain what did he mean?
@@WayneFocus It’s was better to die and be with Christ than to remain in the flesh.
@@chucksmith4624 how is that gain if you soulsleeping for 2000 years?
my grandfather left his body over 40 years ago. he had an outer body experience where he spoke with God. no one believed him(i did). Well before the age of internet where now its easy to type NDE, his experience was very similar to theirs. God told him if they didn't hear him they didn't hear God and to go spread His word. He was obedient to God and did so until last November in hospice where he earned the name "preachers man" by the nurses. He was my greatest teacher next to my father(who passed 6 years ago) and mother. I know they are loving paradise together.
My Dad is moments away from passing and I found this video to be so helpful. Thank you Allen 🙏🏼
I just noticed something I’ve never thought about before. When the rich man was in torment and saw Lazarus sitting at the side of Abraham, he still treated the poor man as someone who should be serving him. He asked Abraham to have Lazarus dip his finger in water and bring it to him. He didn’t even address Lazarus. He only wanted Lazarus to do for him. Is this a a reflection of the rich man’s heart? Even though he had died and was in torment his heart still was haughty. Still not loving and still only saw Lazarus as someone who should serve him?
Also I’ve heard many say you do not burn until you’re thrown i to the lake of fire after judgement. But the rich man said he’s in anguish in the flames. So do you go to flames immediately? Are there flames in pre-judgement AND post?
I just recently lost my mother. This video helped me tremendously, thanks again Pastor Allen.
I am so sorry to hear this. Here is a comforting video on this subject: th-cam.com/video/JlK5E_vDdI4/w-d-xo.html
th-cam.com/video/XpoygiMdToM/w-d-xo.html
@Yeshua's Words
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You are a FALSE prophet if you THINK Jesus is coming back in the year of 2030
NO ONE knows when Jesus is coming back ( NO ONE )
Mark 13 : 32
Matthew 24 : 36
Jesus is GOD in the FLESH
Jehovah's Witnesses
are the Seventh day Adventists
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH ( The CROSS )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Praying for you!
th-cam.com/video/bH0bvqAHXHo/w-d-xo.html
For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God. And the dead in Christ will rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And thus we shall always be with the Lord.
I Thessalonians 4:16-17 NKJV
THE BIBLE ALL SO SAY , JESUS WILL BRING THE ONES WHO DIED THEY WILL COME BACK WILL HIM.
@@sylvester465 please humbly quote the verse pls
@@PointingtoJesusChrist I Thess 4:14 - this was covered in the vid.
The dead will rise first means that our physical bodies (spirits and souls intact) will walk out of the graves. This had nothing to do with where your soul goes after death.
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Yesterday SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
Seventh day Adventistm are the
Jehovah's Witnesses
JWS : SOUL SLEEP
SDA : SOUL SLEEP
JWS : ANNIHILATION
SDA : ANNIHILATION
JWS : NO HELL FIRE
SDA : NO HELL FIRE
There is NOT ONE religion on the face of the planet that has more OBVIOUS IDENTICAL similarities between Mormonism and the
Jehovah's Witnesses than that of Seventh day Adventism
( NOT ONE )
NOT ONE Jehovah's Witnesses and the Seventh day Adventists on ANY of these threads have mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
JWS : Jesus the Archangel Michael
SDA : Jesus the Archangel Michael
JWS : New 19th century FALSE religion
SAME AS. ......
SDA : New 19th century FALSE religion
JWS : Has their seat in NEW YORK
SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND
JWS : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church
SAME AS.......
SDA : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church
JWS : Charles Taze Russell mentored by the Millerites
SAME AS.........
SDA : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church
JWS : Favorite word SHUN
SDA : Favorite word HATE
A ) The minute you question their literature
B ) The minute you question their authorities
JWS : Has their OWN Bible
SDA : Has their OWN Bible
JWS : Charles Taze Russell has an Egyptian obelisk ALL seeing eye Freemason MASONIC TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN
sun ...."" god "" above his gravesite......that still today stands tall and proud
SAME AS........
SDA : Ellen G White Purchased an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye Freemason MASONIC
TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun "" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above her and her husbands gravesite
ANSWER
Mathew 23 : 27
Jesus Christ does not like these
MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONES
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH ( The CROSS )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it , Jesus - God - YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE !
I needed to hear this. Still new believer of a year and when someone told me that you sleep until the Lord wakes you up crushed me. I had a hard time with that. After this video I am back to joy that I WILL be with my father in heaven
Luke 23:
And he was saying, “Jesus, remember me when You come into Your kingdom!”
*43 And He said to him, “Truly I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”*
Sure sounds like the Man Himself meant TODAY, not 200 years from now... TODAY as He already paid the price for your soul that day.
Don't let it crush you. Jesus is worth waiting on. You are loved and a child of God. As you gain new information, ask the Holy Spirit to lead and guide you. Jesus is real. He came and saved us from the power of sin. When He returns, He will make all things new. Because of Him we can have life in Him now and for eternity. Be blessed.
I encourage to read and trust God’s word even when it says something you don’t like. If the thought that you’ll sleep until Jesus resurrects you crushes you then knowing God’s word will take that load off you because his truth always sets you free.
@@ralphralpherson9441 now placed that comma after the word today. You’ll see that Jesus was giving the thief the assurance that day that he will be with him in heaven one day. Jesus did not ascend into heaven after died he went to the grave
I don’t understand why your crushed at that death is not an alternative route to heaven death is an enemy. Death is not something we like. When u die u cease to exist its that simple the Bible never teaches that we have an immortal soul. The Bible says the soul that sinneth it shall die
What a lovely thought to be at home with the Lord as soon as we pass a blessing and reassurance
Really! The malefector who was crucified with Jesus said, "Remember me WHEN you come in your kingdom." He knew that he wouldn't be in heaven that same day. He knwew it was upon the resurrection that he would be with His Savior. I could give so many examples from the Bilble. Marthe said to Jesus concerning Lazarus that she knew she would see him at the resurrection. Peter, speaking of David, said, his tomb is among us. Jesus said, no one has ever gone to heaven except the one that came from heaven. Jesus while speaking said; I will go and prepare a place for you and when I am done, I will come back and get you whereever I am, there you would also be. The Bile is so clear on this topic. See, I did not even enter into a doctrinal study of the subject, I only took just a few story lines from the Bible that do not require a lot of thinking to show that what he is teaching is false. And, Allen says it well. He says, this is what I believe. Therefore, he is correct, it is what he believes. In teaching the word of God, it's not a matter of what I believe, it is "thus saith the word of God."
Allen Parr , although I believe he is sincere, but he is deceived by the devil. We can only pray that one day he can see clearly.
I just lost my dad yesterday I pray he’s in heaven watching me, I’m really out of tears idk what to do doesn’t even feel real.
❤🙏🏾
I know it's tough right now yet you were brought here for your well being,keep the faith in THE truth you Will get through this by the faith and knowledge you have in the Lord he can and will comfort you just ask. All of that to say it all work for for me when this happened in my life. try it thru the tears it works,much love my friend
Oh my. I'm terribly sorry to hear this. May God comfort you and give you strength and peace as only HE can. Wow.
I'm so sorry for your loss. Stay strong 💪 God is going to comfort you.
So sorry for your loss. May God comfort you and grant you peace.
Thank you so much for this video. My dad passed away from cancer several years ago and just before he passed, a preacher came to him and told him that anyone who doesn’t believe in the soul sleep just weren’t deep enough into Bible study. This totally confused me. I was going to ask you for a video on this exact topic and it’s like you read my mind. Again, God answers prayers in unusual ways. Thanks again. Have a wonderful day.
Your preacher was right. You need to study yourself. Not just hear what others teach that you want it to be
@@robertroberts9178
4 - 3 - 22
Good SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
Adventism is Mormonism
Adventism are the
Jehovah's Witnesses
Ellen G White was a SELF proclaimed Spirit of Prophecy who PROMOTED CHRISTMAS DAY with a CHRISTMAS TREE in EVERY SINGLE Seventh day Adventist church
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH ( The CROSS )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Scripture supports that dead remain unconscious in their graves until Jesus comes. Please watch Allen
th-cam.com/video/X9SOgNYkS2w/w-d-xo.html
You need to accept the fact that your father is gone! We all die that's just the way it is we only get one life so live it to the best of your ability.. Don't listen to these fake preachers or pastors, it's not going to do you any good.😵
@@donstrong1717 Wow... you know Christ tells us to LOVE one another, not shout terrible things at people (your father is gone!) over the internet. That was one of the LEAST Christ-like things I've seen in these comments. Really... do better. Sure we all die but our soul is saved by the Blood of Jesus, paid for in full by our loving Savior. Anita, I believe you will be reunited with your father in God's loving arms upon death. "Soul Sleep" doesn't even make sense. God is INFINITE and exists outside of our Universe. Therefore he is not bound by, nor subject to Time. Time is a phenomenon of our Universe and CAN only affect those things WITHIN the universe. God Transcends the Universe and exists outside of our reality. He transcends it. So an Infinite God making all his children wait a "finite" period of time to reunite seems just... fundamentalist, literalist rubbish. It doesn't even make sense. Look deep into your heart and ask God for yourself, don't believe some mean person on the internet who has some self-serving need to be right about a scriptural argument. We have a God of Love... not of vengeance. Christ bought our souls from death the day he perished on the cross.
Well dang! This completely changes a lot of what I thought🤔. I personally don’t think our loved ones can look down on us. Plus watching over us, as SO many people believe. I think people think that too ease their minds 🤷🏽♂️. My mind always wander to this topic. Me and wife every so often talk about what it must be like after we die. That’s some of our best conversations that we have with each other. Sometimes our kids join our conversation as well. It then becomes a family discussion.
5For the living know that they shall die: but the dead know not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them is forgotten. 6Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished; neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done under the sun. Ecclesiastes 9:5
When you are with the LORD you can only do as he allows.Sometime HE will allow a soul to guide someone.There are many cases of people on their death bed seeing someone who passed before them and even talking with them about their transition.
Family discussion is the BEST.A great way to bring children to Christianity.
@@usmc6911 yeaa they’re hallucinating they’re not truly dead
I agree. I think being able to see us still in our imperfect bodies and ways would be so depressing for the saints in heaven. Especially if they could see their loved one still an unbeliever.
Ezekiel 18: 4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.
Jeremiah 23: 16 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, Hearken not unto the words of the prophets that prophesy unto you: they make you vain: they speak a vision of their own heart, and not out of the mouth of the Lord.
Um… Elijah could not have been sleeping because he never died. He was taken up alive in firey chariots… starting to wonder if you actually read these things…
He don't mention that the book of Jude confirms that Moses was resurrected earlier either.
That is definitely NOT true, Elijah NEVER went to Heaven!
@@alienclay2 That's because that is not what it says, Moses was NOT resurrected.
@@truthbetold8610 2nd kings 2:11
Then it happened, as they continued on and talked, that suddenly a chariot of fire appeared with horses of fire, and separated the two of them; and Elijah went up by a whirlwind into heaven.
Please, no matter who it is, double check with scripture first.
@@truthbetold8610 Deuteronomy 34 (KJV)
¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯
⁵ So Moses the servant of the LORD died there in the land of Moab, according to the word of the LORD.
⁶ And he buried him in a valley in the land of Moab, over against Bethpeor: but no man knoweth of his sepulchre unto this day.
“Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.”
- Jude 1:9 (KJV)
Moses showing up with Elijah at the mount of transfiguration is proof of his resurrection. He died, the Lord himself buried him, was resurrected, and Satan argued against it. likely the argument was because while Enoch had been taken without death, Moses is the first to be resurrected to eternal life and Jesus hadn't died on the cross yet so in a sense God was using his credit card on Moses (and Elijah and Enoch for that matter too)
It's STRANGE how people love to believe lies and opinions of men about "Grandma is looking down on me" rather than just believe what the Glorious Holy Bible says about the dead being in their grave awaiting the resurrection at the return of Jesus Christ!
@vax, tests = mark of beast 1 Nice opinion. . .Completely unbiblical but still a nice opinion.
Beware of the coming National SUNDAY Law 666! REVELATION 13:17 And that NO man might BUY or SELL. . .666
@vax, tests = mark of beast 1>>> "The vax and tests are the mark of the beast."
Thank you.
@vax, tests = mark of beast 1 EZEKIEL 18:20 The SOUL that sinneth, it shall DIE.
To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. All saved will be with Jeaus. I can't wait. Thank you Lord.
Sorry but if u study gods word you will find out that Your made of dust and spirit which is the breathe that's in you. when u die you will go to the grave while your breathe/spirit leaves your body. The dead are Sleep(unconscious)and will rise again John 14:3 Jesus says "And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also."
Gen 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath or (spirit)of life; and man became a living soul.
Psalms 146:4 "His breath(spirit) goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish."
Psalm 104:29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath (spirit) they die, and return to their dust.
@@silasr20 those souls under God alter were crying to him in revelation they don't seem sleeping to me lol we can use verses to bro lol soul sleep doesn't even make sense that's a Jehova witnesses teachings you believe in
@@chrisjitsu7166 that’s symbolic do you really think the souls under the alter will be concerned with such a thing about vengeance? No I do think so it’s a representation of all the martyrs who were killed for their faith.
@@silasr20 rich man and Lazarus story Jesus uses real names and people in this story even if it was a parable it sounds they went somewhere after they die and were very aware so is Jesus lying then ? Soul sleep u think is real then that vision of John had in the book of revelations about the souls crying out to God under his alter was false then so Jesus lied again? I seen the verses you guys use alot or the Greek translation u guys use alot for your argument but when we use our is a wrong translation or symbolic
1 Cor 5:8, does not say that. “Is to be” is no where in that verse! 2 Corinthians 5:8 KJV
We are confident, I say, and willing rather to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.
So glad you made this video ..I lost my 36 year old daughter June 18 2023 unexpectedly...I'm not ok ..but this makes me feel so much better 🙏🙏
My father passed away the same day June 18 but in 2018. It takes time but I hope time to heal but we will see them again 🕊️
I’m truly sorry for your lost, my condolences to you and your family, continue to ask the lord to give you strength.
I love your teaching Dr. Allen...This gives me great comfort that my parents and my three brothers are not in some bottomless pit on non-existence after they passed away like in the movie 300...They are now in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ who does all things well...
No they are not they are in the earth waiting for the Second coming of Christ. They are not with Christ. Please read 1 Thessalonians 4: 16-17.
@@donnaroberts4513 To be absent from the body is to be present with The Lord...2 Corinthians 5:8...I am the resurrection and the life...John 11:25...
@@donnaroberts4513 This day...Thou shall be with me in Paradise...Luke 23: 39-43...
It's a good thing you're glad that they're not in the bottomless pit, but Christ will resurrect them. Until then, they are still asleep.
@@brainbomb. Agreed...Christ is THE RESSURECTION AND THE LIFE...John 1: 1-3...
This is crazy… it’s a lot to think about. A best friend of mine died on Good Friday. It’s just so crazy to think that she was literally in Paradise with Christ on that day. Which would make her insanely happy. Her body suffered A LOT while she was here. Amazing. Absolutely amazing…
She’s not in heaven right now she ceases to exist in the grave until Jesus returns. Rerember the dead in Christ will rise first. It wouldnt make sense if she’s in heaven with Jesus and we know that Jesus is comming to raise the dead from their graves. And I’f she’s in heaven that would mean she would make 2 trips to heaven. Heaven then back to earth to recieve her body then return back to heaven again ? Does that makes sense to you ?
My mom passed away on Easter Sunday last year.
@@silasr20 there’s literally going to be a new heaven and new earth
@@kirbytheservant that doesn’t take place until all the wicked that has ever lived are raised from their graves to be judged and destroyed by fire from god out of heaven along with Satan and his angels. They will be ashes under the soles of our feet I’ll give u scripture.
@@kirbytheservant Jesus said this For, behold, the day cometh, that shall burn as an oven; and all the proud, yea, and all that do wickedly, shall be stubble: and the day that cometh shall burn them up, saith the LORD of hosts, that it shall leave them neither root nor branch.
I was taught from a very early age that when we die we go to Heaven. My Nana,who I adored, died when I was 8, but my Mom explained she is in Heaven and we will see her again. Her friends said “Why don’t you just tell her she’s sleeping?” My Mom said why should I lie to her and if she thinks she’s just sleeping she will expect her to wake up” “If I’m going to raise her as a believer in Jesus I want her to understand why Jesus died and because of that when we die we go to Heaven” And when my Poppa died, the night nurse told us he was reaching out his arms and talking to someone. So I like to think that an Angel came to take him to Heaven and he could see my Nana waiting for him. It’s that blessed assurance that even though we mourn when someone dies we know they are in the most beautiful place ever.
Please get the wonderful truth of where your Mother is! While the soul in NOT immortal, and your Mother is in the grave, if she died in Jesus, she will be resurrected at Jesus' 2nd coming! Right now, she "knows nothing" (Eccl 9:5,6,10), and is not praising the Lord (Ps 115:17). But if she died in Jesus, she will live again, but not until then. th-cam.com/video/JlK5E_vDdI4/w-d-xo.html
Amen!
Amen 🙏🏾
You couldn't be more wrong, death is the same for humans and animals as the Bible clearly says. Are there animals going to Heaven? Do animals have a soul? Then neither do humans and anyone who thinks differently is putting their opinions as superior to Scripture.
@@truthbetold8610
5 - 11 - 22
Three days ago SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
#1
Your Jehovah's Witness FAKE religion is no different from
Seventh day Adventistm
#2
JWS : SOUL SLEEP
SDA : SOUL SLEEP
#3
JWS : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion DENOMINATION church
SAME AS.....
SDA : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion DENOMINATION church
#4
JWS : Charles Taze Russell mentored by the Millerites
SAME AS.......
SDA : Ellen G White mentored by the Millerites
#5
JWS : NO HELL FIRE
SDA : NO HELL FIRE
#6
JWS : ANNIHILATION
SDA : ANNIHILATION
#7
JWS : Jesus the Archangel Michael
SDA : Jesus the Archangel Michael
#8
JWS : New 19th century FALSE religion ( 1875 )
SAME AS........
SDA : New 19th century FALSE religion ( 1863 )
#9
JWS : WORKS based religion
SDA : WORKS based religion
#10
JWS : Has their seat in NEW YORK
SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND
#11
JWS : Have their OWN Bible
SDA : Have their OWN Bible
#12
JWS : Favorite word is SHUN your OWN family and friends
SAME AS.......
SDA : Favorite words are HATE or ATTACK
A ) The minute one questions their literature
B ) The minute one questions their authorities
C ) The minute one questions their FALSE prophets
"" Awake ""
William Miller
Ellen G White
"" Watchtower "
Joseph Rutherford
Charles Taze Russell
#13
JWS : Charles Taze Russell has an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun
"" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above his gravesite
SAME AS........
SDA : Ellen G White purchased an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun
"" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above her and her husbands gravesite
ANSWER
Mathew 23 : 27
Jesus Christ does not like these MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONES dedicated to
Jehovah's Witnesses
ANSWER
Romans 1 : 1
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH ( The CROSS )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
I used to believe in soul sleep until I saw this video today. I can’t believe I was so blind! Thank you so much. God bless you!
As usual, Allen did an awesome job, using scripture to prove our souls do not "sleep". Our bodies do "sleep" , but our spirit/soul is in heaven with God. Great job and thank you Allen. 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Your spirit is the breathe of life
Psalms 146:4 "His breath goeth forth, he returneth to his earth; in that very day his thoughts perish."
Psalm 104:29 Thou hidest thy face, they are troubled: thou takest away their breath, they die, and return to their dust.
Gen 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
Your made of dust and spirit which is the breathe that’s in you when u die you will go to the grave while your breathe/spirit leaves your body the dead are Sleep and will rise again John 14:3 Jesus says “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.”
Our spirit/ breath goes back to God but there is NO consciousness. Ecclesiastes 9:5
For the living know that they shall die; but the dead do not know anything, nor do they have any more a reward; for their memory is forgotten. King David speaks of this as well in the psalms.
You’re right Bro. Allen!! “To be absent from the body IS to be present with the Lord.” 2 Corinthians 5:8. Blessings to all! Let’s STAY in God’s word and seek the Holy Spirit. Thanks for the break down.
I am under the impression that the soul is different from the spirit. God keeps us alive with his spirit, and when we die the spirit) immediately goes back to God ( read Gen. Chapter 6 vs 3), our souls don't have the capacity to maintain life in the structure. And Jesus called dead sleep.
I was raised as an SDA. I left the church in my early 20's. I am born again and now know to be present out of the body is to be present with the Lord.
Me too.
You left the church then you should have never came back! Because all you came back to was a bunch of lies and deception.. You would have been better off staying away just believe in yourself and who you are as a person and what you represent.. What have you been born again into, a corrupt deceitful deceptive religion that only cares about money?🤔
Left Adventism in 2020 i donot believe in soul sleep
Dear friend, when that term "out of the body is to be present with the Lord" (aka "absent from the body is to be present with the Lord") is read in context of what Paul shared in 2 Corinthians 5, he doesn't mention anything about dying and going to Heaven. When that chapter (and the book) is carefully studied, Paul was referring to being burdened in our earthly house, these bodies we live in. He said that he'd rather be clothed with his "house" (body) in Heaven. Yet, he said that he'd rather be absent (away) from this body (that is constantly burdened) and be with the Lord. No where did he insinuate, that some erroneously think, that when one dies they are immediately with the Lord. For Paul's point is shown in subsequent verses (like 9 and 10) that "whether present or absent, we may be accepted of him because everyone has to appear before the judgment seat of Christ." This subject is vital to understand because Satan's first lie he told mankind was on the topic of their state in death; and that when one dies, they don't surely die (Genesis 3).
@@Project144K the NT is clear about the intermediate state of the righteous. The text is clear, “In fact, we are confident, and we would prefer to be AWAY from the BODY and at home with the Lord. Therefore, whether we are at home or away, we make it our aim to be pleasing to him.”
“For me, to live is Christ and to DIE is GAIN. Now if I live on in the flesh, this means fruitful work for me; and I don’t know which one I should choose. I am torn between the two. I long to DEPART and be with Christ - which is far better - ” Philippians 1:21-23.
When Jesus returns, our bodies are resurrected incorruptible (our new habitations FROM heaven, 2 Cor 5:2) and we live and reign with Christ on the earth, just as God always intended (1 Thess 4, 1 Cor. 15, Matt 5:5, Romans 4:13).
John 20: 17 - 17 Jesus saith unto her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended to my Father: but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father, and your Father; and to my God, and your God.
I'm glad at least SOME of the people in this comment section have read their Bibles lol.
Jesus didn't go straight to heaven, He stayed for 40 days to present himself to many to proof He's resurrected n conquered death. He also encourage n strengthen His disciples who were in fear.
Im now at one point in my life where I need to review my beliefs. I wondered fifteen days ago what happens when we die, eventhough I grew up in a christian home I doubted my beliefs when my grandpa died 15 days ago. A friend who is a jehovah's witness gave me this explanation of soul sleep n resurrection of the dead one day. Since I was so moved and emotional for my grandpa's death I accepted that but now with this video is like my eyes have been opened by reading those passages in the bible n with your explanation. I need to hear sound teachings. Blessings
The same state that you were in before you were born is the same state you are going to be in after you die. Unconscious, nonexistent. According to the Holy Bible
the jehovah's witness friend is correct. the dead simply return to the dust. and then when Jesus comes again soon, he will resurrect those who believed in Him to take them and us who are still alive to meet Him. 1 Thessalonians 4:16-17
So happy- yes JWs don’t have sound scripture and the ppl high up are corrupted and very dangerous men. Continue to stay in your Word and seek out a Biblical church. I love the content from Pastor Mike Winger on TH-cam too. God bless you and give you heavenly wisdom.
@@jandellko
4 - 4 - 22
Two days ago SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
Jehovah's Witnesses
are the Seventh day Adventists
JWS : SOUL SLEEP
SDA : SOUL SLEEP
JWS : NO HELL FIRE
SDA : NO HELL FIRE
JWS : ANNIHILATION
SDA : ANNIHILATION
JWS : Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery
SAME AS.........
SDA : Jesus did NOT FINISH his atonement on the CROSS at Calvery
( FAKE News GRACE
Investigative Judgement )
JWS : Jesus the Archangel Michael
SDA : Jesus the Archangel Michael
JWS : Have their OWN Bible
SDA : Have their OWN Bible
JWS : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church
SAME AS........
SDA : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church
JWS : New 19th century FALSE religion
SAME AS.........
SDA : New 19th century FALSE religion
JWS : Charles Taze Russell mentored by the Millerites
SAME AS........
SDA : Claims to be the true religion DENOMINATION church
JWS : Has their seat in NEW YORK
SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND
JWS : Favorite word is SHUN
SDA : Favorite word is HATE
A ) The minute one questions their literature
B ) The minute one questions their authorities
C ) The minute one questions
Ellen G White
The Watchtower
Joseph Rutherford
Charles Taze Russell
JWS : Charles Taze Russell has an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun
"" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above his gravesite
SAME AS.........
SDA : Ellen G White purchased an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun
"" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above her and her husbands gravesite
JWS : WORKS based religion
SDA : WORKS based religion
JWS : Charles Taze Russell was a FALSE prophet
SAME AS.......
SDA : Ellen G White was a FALSE prophet
What's more NOT ONE
Jehovah's Witness or
Seventh day Adventist on ANY of these threads have mentioned ANYTHING about spreading the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH ( The CROSS )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it , Jesus - God - YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE !
@@TheDbwillia The voice of authority who knows nothing. Winger is a phony preaching nothing but false man made doctrines, he is not PREACHING TRUTH!
And you. Godzilla, need to learn something true for a change, you're deceived by the lies of Christendom.
This is what is happening when we are reading verses without the context "For we say this to you by the Lord’s [own] word, that we who are still alive and remain until the coming of the Lord, will in no way precede [into His presence] those [believers] who have fallen asleep [in death].
1 Thessalonians 4:15 AMP
He puts forth his belief as stated at the beginning of his presentation
Wow, that was a brilliant and enthusiastic presentation that got me even more confused. Mr. Allen, the scholar, the simplest text that I can quote is Genesis 2: 7. (Dust of the ground + breath of life = Living Being (Soul). That is how man had came into this world. Therefore, if a person die (sleep), it is just a reverse of how he is created. God take the breath of life, body goes back to the dust of the ground and we are left with nothing.
What great confusion is caused in the interest of someone (particularly false teachers) not wanting to humble themselves of God’s word! Instead, they try to piece together scriptures taken out of context or misinterpreted to fit a narrative that sounds good but lacks truth. “But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.“
When you die you rest of the resurrection day that is the truth you rest until judgment day the Lord Jesus come back and claim all of his children ❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
I Wholeheartedly agree and my spirit is comforted by the Holy Spirit concerning this matter. Praise Jesus for His perfect plan!
maybe on the contacting the dead, because God knew they will contacting evil spirits that would be pretending to be them
Remember: the serpent in the garden told Eve “you shall not die…”, a lie millions and millions of Christians today believe. When we die, we do not shed our skin like serpents and continue to be alive in a different form. Believe God, not man. From dust we were formed and to dust we return. Death as sleep is true. When you die, you rest until your resurrection.
Not for Christian darling christ his a life close go straight to the lord real true let the holy spirit teach u
@@natashajeanbatistedarcisse8940 Well, i'm born Again Evangelist/Christian, but GOD THE HOLY SPIRIT teaches the opposite of Brother Allen in this video.
Think about Lazarus. IF he was IN Heaven, WHY God Jesus resurrected him????🙄🧐
Also right now NO ONE yet is in the Lake of fire/Gehenna Revelation 20,21🧐
Jesus is YHWH EL SHADDAI😏✝
@@НатанаилСталев-ф2р You're of the flesh. No truth in you.
@@rickhuntling7338 It's all BIBLICAL - John chapters 3 |no one ascended to Heaven|, 11 |verses 11-14| Ecclesiastes 9 |the dead knows NOTHING|/1 Thessalonians 4 first the dead in CHRIST and after that we who are still alive... etc...
God JESUS/YESHUA bless His people.😇
P.s. I forgot where but it's written that David is in the grave, but John 3 is more than enough..😌
@@НатанаилСталев-ф2р The ungodly are the walking dead lions the godly are live dogs. If you use your literal interpretation, everyone who dies has no more portion. 1st Thess. 4:14 JESUS brings the spirits of the people who will receive their glorified bodies
Jn. 3:13 no man has ascended and come down from heaven. 3:14 is the future cross and crucifixion the Mose cross symbolized.
You have a very selective distortion with scripture, lacking context and leaving out things.
I just listened to what you shared with us on the topic, what happens to you when you die. Having heard others speak and teach on this topic, I think the way you explained things and the scriptures you shared, is the best explanation I have heard so far.
Thank you so much for taking the time to share what you have learned. I really appreciate it. I will share this with others..
Pastor Charles
2/24/23
I do belie when people die their soul is controus and the flesh perish.
@@pearlettadouglas4218 Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection. Shes preaching a false doctrine.
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection. Shes preaching a false doctrine.
I was unconscious for three days after a fatal car accident and I wasn’t saved at the time. I definitely was in a dream world being tormented. Hades/Shaol is real.
But now you know the ONLY God - JESUS right?😏✝✝✝
@@НатанаилСталев-ф2р you got that right
When we die the Bible speaks clearly of what happens to all of us…..Ecclesiastes 12:7 - “Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was; and the spirit shall return to God who gave it.” In other words, when a person dies, his or her spirit goes back to God (doesn’t say Heaven) the body returns to dust and the soul of that person comes to an end. That is why Job 27:3 says, “All the while my breathe is in me, and the spirit of God is my nostrils.”
Ecclesiastes 9:5 says, “For the living know that they will die, but the dead know not any thing.” When you die you know nothing. You are not aware of what’s going on earth and you are not looking down from heaven because the dead knows nothing. In order to be conscious of anything you must have a soul. But a soul is the combination of body and spirit. When the two no longer exist together, there is no soul and there is no consciousness of anything.
At this present time, no one is in heaven or hell. Acts 2:29 and 34 tells us that King David is both dead and buried and his grave is still with us today. But King David has not yet ascended into heaven. His body has turned to dust and his spirit is back with God and his soul no longer exist. If this is true for David, then it is also true for everybody else.
Nothing happens to the dead until Jesus returns. I Thessalonians 4:13-18 makes it perfectly clear what happens when we die. The passage begins by saying the Lord does not want us to be ignorant about what happens to the dead in Christ. The dead in Christ refers to those who have died as saved or born again Christians as a result of accepting Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. If you as a Christian, believe Jesus died and rose from the dead, then we too will eventually rise from the dead. And that will happen when Jesus returns. I Thessalonians 4: 16-17 says, “For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then, we which are alive and remain, shall be caught us together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air; and so shall we be with the Lord forever.” It is perfectly clear that we will all go to heaven at the same time. This eliminates anyone being able to say, “I got to heaven before you did
I agree with all of what you said except I believe we will return to the new earth or Earth 3.0.
This is what the Bible teaches
“And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.”
Matthew 10:28 ESV
The above verse clearly indicated that a person can kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Therefore, your notion that the soul cannot exist if the body and spirit are separated is wrong. And the soul is not a combination of the body and spirit, the soul is its own thing.
“And when Jesus had cried out again in a loud voice, he gave up his spirit.”
Matthew 27:50 NIV
Here we see Jesus giving up His Spirit to the Father and died right after doing so. This proved that your spirit can be alive while your body is dead. So, you can also say that your soul can also be alive while your body is dead.
“For you will not abandon my soul to Hades, or let your Holy One see corruption.”
Acts 2:27 ESV
The above verse clearly refutes the claim that a person soul comes to an end after death. How can the soul be abandon if the soul no longer exist after death?
And you also misinterpreting Acts 2:29-35. Here Peter is referencing Psalm 16:8-11 to explains to the audience that these verses were referring to Jesus Christ and not King David himself. Because King David is still in the grave rioting but Jesus rose from the grave after 3 days.
The soul is the combination of our mind, emotions, memory, feelings, and thoughts. These are the things that make us human. If your soul died, you cease to be YOU.
“Take my yoke upon you, and learn from me, for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.”
Matthew 11:29 ESV.
Do you believe that humans and animals have the same fate when they die? You should because that is Scriptural truth.
(Ecclesiastes 3:19) for THERE IS AN OUTCOME FOR HUMANS AND AN OUTCOME FOR ANIMALS ; THEY ALL HAVE THE SAME OUTCOME. AS THE ONE DIES, SO THE OTHER DIES; and THEY ALL HAVE BUT ONE SPIRIT. So MAN HAS NO SUPERIORITY OVER THE ANIMALS, for everything is futile.
This will require a complete rethinking of your beliefs if you want to know the real truth.
Exactly brother good assessment
GET EM ALLEN!!! this was sooo helpful to me I really appreciate this topic there’s so much bad information out there but if you listen to the thousands and thousands of people who have had near death experiences not one single person said I went to sleep!!!!! they were instantaneously instantly with God the moment they left the body!! That has to count for something!
I believe the same thing. NDEs are too ubiquitous around the globe to be "just a sick brain event" or "a hallucination". When these people have these events, their brains are OFF. Period. Plus, as the brother of a paramedic and relative of many nurses and even a few doctors, there are COUNTLESS stories of folks reaching out for loved ones, or seeing dead relatives just at the moment they pass.
Most important, why would an INFINITE GOD make us wait some FINITE time to reunite with Him? God is forever and infinite, He has no need for time and is not subject to time, only we are. So it seems bizarre to think God would say "no no no, wait another 2000 years to be with Me." when HE is not subjected to time, He exists eternally, beyond and outside of time.
Those were false testimonies because they weren’t truly dead. If they were dead they would experience nothing. Don’t believe in those false testimonies
Es 3:19 there is the same outcome for man and animals,just as one dies the other dies
I say we just go to God and allow the Holy Spirit to teach us and reveal it to us because man is gonna always have different opinions about these topics and bring in their own interpretations which can bring confusion and we know God and confusion dont mix at all but the Holy Spirit reveals even the Deep Things of God.
Exactly my point. We need to stop relying on human interpretations and seek the Holy Spirit, He will guide us to all truths
Bravo 👏🏾👏🏾
Finally someone with common sense.
And yes I just clicked on the video because it popped up on my feed.
I think God probably won't reveal it to us anyways. Coz if the people from both sides of the argument actually spent time seeking answers from God concerning this matter, then they wouldn't even be debating about this. Just my thoughts...
@@nyaradzochivandire5758 exactly. I feel like this is a topic that won’t be revealed. All that matters at the end of the day is if all Christ believers have the same belief on salvation.
When the author of this video speaks about Paul here is a video giving the consistent interpretation: www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUezfQXEGnas&ved=2ahUKEwjd66y5--72AhUPXM0KHTIkDSg4FBDFrwF6BAgKEAU&usg=AOvVaw0LyYUVo-KJf5anLwLvox62
Wow! This has been on my mind for a while now, regarding exactly what you described as "Soul Sleep". Thank you for your definition. Thank you sir!!
The Apostle Paul wanted his readers to know the truth about the resurrection. "But I do not want you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning those who have fallen asleep, lest you sorrow as others who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so God will bring with Him those who sleep in Jesus. For this we say to you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain until the coming of the Lord will by no means precede those who are asleep" (1 Thessalonians 4:13-15)
Now is his letter God inspired?
Early Hebrews didn't believe the soul and body separated. They believed the soul needed the body and the body needed to soul. It was greek belief most noticeably influenced by Plato who believed the soul was eternal and the body dies.
In his letter to the corinthians, Paul is explaining why Jesus’s resurrection must be bodily. The corinthians believed Jesus soul was raised not his body. It's understandable why the corinthians would believed that because they were influenced by plato and greek thoughts
(…my reply to Allan Parr…please pray & consider the texts mentioned. (…thanks for sharing that text, Aaron Monroe!!…)
Mr. Parr, so, you continue to keep to Satan’s preaching about death, that we, “…shall not surely die…” & this spiritualistic idea that we have an immortal soul…when the Bible teaches that man BECAME a living soul, after the breath of life was given. (…as the body w/out the spirit…so is faith w/out works dead…);
“…go to your ancestors…”; “…gathered to your people…” wouldn’t that mean that they’re in one place already…like maybe a burial plot? Doesn’t Acts 2:29, 34 say, that the man after God’s own heart, was dead, buried & hadn’t ascended to heaven? So, David, still buried, was gathered with “his fathers”, asleep until, like He did to Lazarus & what He WILL do w/all that are “dead sleep”now(….pun INTENDED 😉), Jesus calls them forth, with a loud voice & at the time, a 🎺…”…& the dead in Christ will rise first…” (((…side thought, what’s the point of a resurrection, of we go right to God at death…what would be the need to change our “…vile bodies…” into glorified bodies, at that point?…)))
“…today you will be with me in paradise!”
Comma placed anywhere w/in that statement wouldn’t change the fact that Jesus didn’t even go right to the paradise of heaven that very day He, they died…”Good Friday”, but on the 1st day of the week, He told Mary not to restrain Him, for He had not yet ascended to the Father. Jesus IS the truth. So, did He lie to the thief about being in paradise w/Him THAT day?
the Transfiguration: Elijah had been taken to heaven w/out seeing death (…via that fiery chariot…) & Moses actually died on that mountain overlooking the promised land that He was not permitted to go, but Jesus raised him from that death(…see Jude…), the first death.(…please reference what that means…) They were both there, in their glorified bodies…one having died & was raised,(…those that SLEEP in Christ1 Thessalonians 4:16…) & the other having never died(…”…in a twinkling of an eye…mortal puts on immortality…caught up to be with the Lord…” 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 / 1 Thessalonians 4:17…)
“…the Lake of 🔥 is empty right now…”
SO, WHERE IS THIS LAKE OF FIRE, RIGHT NOW?”
“And they went up on ~the breadth of THE EARTH~ and encompassed the camp of the saints about and the beloved city and fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them…the devil that deceived them…the beast…the false prophet…death …hell & whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away…I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven…and I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, ‘Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men and He will dwell with them…”~ Revelation 20:9-15, 21:1-3
So, WHERE IS THIS PLACE OF TORMENT SUPPOSED TO BE & WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE OF God KEEPING THIS “MUSEUM OF SIN” AROUND, when we’ll already have “the books” to review, as well as the scars that will FOREVER remain on God Himself??? (…moved towards tears here! PLEASE THINK!!! reason with the text, with your gifted minds, lead by the Spirit of truth & make it make sense!!! Please!…)
@From Darkness To Light
This is sound solid ground,
We are told of the “mystery of The Gospel” and we are to search out Its rich treasures.
I believe that seminaries and churches/ denominations really skew minds with wrong teachings/doctrine.
If there is a New Heaven then does God move us out into a motel during renovations?!
Does Gods send people to Heaven or to Hell BEFORE judgment day?!
It’s incredible to me that the logic is faulty but people don’t want to let go of preconceived notions.
I’m open to learn-but back to back with this presentation and scripture Allen P presented and the scripture and logic in your comments-one thing seems clear-TBWAP is missing some depth here.
@@From_darkness2Life Thank you for the Scriptures Bro/Sis in the Holy Spirit/Christ🤗
Lazarus was NOT in Heaven🧐
JESUS is EL ELYON😏👍
@@TruthSetFree-zm1ep Read how GOD JESUS resurrected Lazarus.
If Lazarus was IN Heaven, that will be so cruel from our Great Savior...🤔
But Praise YESHUA, He will loose NO ONE of them that His Father given Him John 6, 10, 17😌
To be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord. 2 Corinthians 5:8
No. That is taking the verse out of context. This verse neither affirms nor denies.
Yes, it confirms that to be absent from the body is to be present with The Lord. It’s quite simple.
Great Word!!!
And you "Referenced" it biblically! Awesome 😊
May the Lord return quickly! Amen. God is merciful. He always forgives. Never be ashamed to take your failures to him. He is for you, not against you! God is with you in the storm. He knows your troubles, he hears you! He is for you, on your side, always! It may feel silent at times, but he’s holding you close! May the Lord return soon! We are drawing closer. He is coming! Believe and trust in the Lord, you will be saved. Period. May the Lord bless you all! Hang in there family. Stay strong. It is not easy following the Lord. We are scoffed at. We give up our earthly dreams, our fleshly desires. What the enemy offers is short lived, but heaven is forever! Life may seem or be unfair, but God is with you! Always remember that. Things may get better or worse for you, but a kingdom awaits you! Finish the race! Repent daily and carry your cross. This world is fading fast. Your troubles are temporary! New channel here, I’d appreciate any kind of support. Don’t give up! God loves you so much! So do I. The Lord bless you!!
Amen 🙏
The Lord Jesus Christ is returning quickly! th-cam.com/video/CIBglW5VXmk/w-d-xo.html Amen!
@vax, tests = mark of beast 1
Where is the proof of your statement? I mean solid, biblical proof?
I can prove to you that you're wrong. The mark will not be even offered until halfway through the Great Tribulation. And we are not in the Tribulation. The Tribulation won't begin until the AC signs a peace agreement with Israel, which hasn't happened yet because he hasn't been revealed yet. He won't be revealed until the Restrainer is removed. What is the Restrainer? The Church, the Body of Christ, the Bride of Christ! I think it's a darn shame that you haven't been taught, nor have you studied, the dispensations of the church. It is biblical teaching as it's orderly and logical, which is the way that God operates. And, BTW, don't just focus your attention on the book of Revelation, but also examine the books of Daniel, Ezekiel, and Isaiah. They all tie together with prophecies.
I’m
Gay. But u believe in God the father son and Holy Spirit. I know and believe he died did my sins. I pray daily and don’t smoke drink. I have a realationship with God. I have other sins I deal with but. Will I go to hell for that one sin. If it is a sin tho. Cuz it’s me. I didn’t ask for it.
@@curtisdrummerellerbe9544 quit being gay then and you'll have the promises of eternal life in the kingdom of God!
Great video. You mentioned at the end about other verses that talk about the dead knowing nothing. It would be cool if you addressed those in another video. Not to necessarily address soul sleep again, but to address the differences and what they may have meant. (so they aren't viewed as contradictory to what you used for disagreeing with soul sleep)
I totally agree, scriptures like this must be addressed, his video was very good. However, when it comes to the word of God all scriptures must be addressed
I can get u started. That phrase is in Ecclesiastes, and that book is written from mankind's perspective. The dead know nothing because dead bodies do nothing/lack agency. That isn't to say the spirit knows nothing once it has departed.
@@martinjakemckinnon5666 agreed but all scriptures can't be addressed in one video, and this subject I'm pretty sure has been addressed. As I've touched on it already in this string.
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Good SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
There is NOT ONE religion on the face of the planet that has more OBVIOUS IDENTICAL similarities between Mormonism and the Jehovah Witnesses than that of Seventh day Adventism
( NOT ONE )
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH ( The CROSS )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
@@porfiriojohn5276 continue being ignorant and teaching others to be like you. You will definitely receive your reward. But what's the point of claiming to be a Christian yet perverting scripture?
Pst Allen, I follow your videos alot but about this lesson, Soul sleep as you say it is very biblical,, every verse quoted can be interpreted.. When we die, we neither go to heaven or hell
Ezekiel 18;20The soul that sin shall die
Thank you for making this follow up video to your previous one! I was surprised to see how many people in the comments section of that video subscribed to the doctrine of soul sleep. God bless you, Allen!
That's what I was taught. I didn't know until now it's false which make sense.
(…please reconsider your. Pasting my reply to Mr. Parr here to you too, bro! Please answer any questions asked here, biblically…)
Mr. Parr, so, you continue to keep to Satan’s preaching about death, that we, “…shall not surely die…” & this spiritualistic idea that we have an immortal soul…when the Bible teaches that man BECAME a living soul, after the breath of life was given. (…as the body w/out the spirit…so is faith w/out works dead…);
“…go to your ancestors…”; “…gathered to your people…” wouldn’t that mean that they’re in one place already…like maybe a burial plot? Doesn’t Acts 2:29, 34 say, that the man after God’s own heart, was dead, buried & hadn’t ascended to heaven? So, David, still buried, was gathered with “his fathers”, asleep until, like He did to Lazarus & what He WILL do w/all that are “dead sleep”now(….pun INTENDED 😉), Jesus calls them forth, with a loud voice & at the time, a 🎺…”…& the dead in Christ will rise first…” (((…side thought, what’s the point of a resurrection, of we go right to God at death…what would be the need to change our “…vile bodies…” into glorified bodies, at that point?…)))
“…today you will be with me in paradise!”
Comma placed anywhere w/in that statement wouldn’t change the fact that Jesus didn’t even go right to the paradise of heaven that very day He, they died…”Good Friday”, but on the 1st day of the week, He told Mary not to restrain Him, for He had not yet ascended to the Father. Jesus IS the truth. So, did He lie to the thief about being in paradise w/Him THAT day?
the Transfiguration: Elijah had been taken to heaven w/out seeing death (…via that fiery chariot…) & Moses actually died on that mountain overlooking the promised land that He was not permitted to go, but Jesus raised him from that death(…see Jude…), the first death.(…please reference what that means…) They were both there, in their glorified bodies…one having died & was raised,(…those that SLEEP in Christ1 Thessalonians 4:16…) & the other having never died(…”…in a twinkling of an eye…mortal puts on immortality…caught up to be with the Lord…” 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 / 1 Thessalonians 4:17…)
“…the Lake of 🔥 is empty right now…”
SO, WHERE IS THIS LAKE OF FIRE, RIGHT NOW?”
“And they went up on ~the breadth of THE EARTH~ and encompassed the camp of the saints about and the beloved city and fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them…the devil that deceived them…the beast…the false prophet…death …hell & whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away…I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven…and I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, ‘Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men and He will dwell with them…”~ Revelation 20:9-15, 21:1-3
So, WHERE IS THIS PLACE OF TORMENT SUPPOSED TO BE & WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE OF God KEEPING THIS “MUSEUM OF SIN” AROUND, when we’ll already have “the books” to review, as well as the scars that will FOREVER remain on God Himself??? (…moved towards tears here! PLEASE THINK!!! reason with the text, with your gifted minds, lead by the Spirit of truth & make it make sense!!! Please!…)
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Two days ago SUNDAY RESURRECTION worship day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! "".
John 11 : 25
Jehovah's Witnesses
are the Seventh day Adventists
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH ( The CROSS )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Ecc 12:7, "Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto God who gave it". The living soul is a like a math equation. Dust + the spirit = a living soul. When we die the living soul ceases to exist, the dust goes back to dust and The spirit not your soul goes back to God.
I agree with you there and I find this guy's very shallow when it comes to this topic he just took verses to support his so called idea ...but his so called ideas are not biblically based but on his euphemism ...I would like to ask Allen to please delete the video and do justice etc etc theme at hand and not browse it...and when he has surely done his research come back to people this is sinful when you teach the wrong thing about the Bible and you are bold without facts ... let's start at creation when a man was created..
Genesis 2:7, "Then the Lord God formed a man[a] from the dust of the ground and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and the man became a living being.
n the book of Genesis 3:19 It is written "By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return." This is just tell us what happens when you die its just a reverse of the process that happened befor enough were created ...you were not there before you created you only became a living soul after God breathed on you and the reverse happens when you die ...you do not live again dust unto dust breath goes back to the one who gave it and it is not a living rather breath that God gave you .
From Genesis 18:31, "Now that I have been so bold as to speak to the Lord, though I am nothing but dust and ashes..."proving that we are just ashes..
Like animals
Dust to dust is mentioned in Ecclesiastes 3:20, "All are from the dust, and to dust all return." In the Bible, this passage emphasizes that humans and animals are no different and that everyone is made up of the earth and will return to the earth.
Ecclesiastes 9:5 reads, “For the living know that they will die, / but the dead know nothing; / they have no further reward, / and even their name is forgotten.” and ancestors that you mention about Abraham doesn't however nullify this fact stated above instead ask your self what does the word mean..Ancestor is dead Ed o. The dictionary mean one from whom a person is descended and who is usually more remote in the line of descent than a grandparent...so for Abraham being with ancestors doesn't mean he is alive with them it means he is bearied and is int he Graves the same way they are In the grave... you reference in the
transfiguration is not based on the Bible because if uou know Elijah never died but taken to heaven by chariot of fire he is a living ancestor and if you wondering about Moses reaf Jude 25 ...
I am however praying 🙏 for you
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Jehovah's Witnesses
are the Seventh day Adventists
JWS : SOUL SLEEP
SDA : SOUL SLEEP
JWS : NO HELL FIRE
SDA : NO HELL FIRE
JWS : ANNIHILATION
SDA : ANNIHILATION
JWS : Jesus the Archangel Michael
SDA : Jesus the Archangel Michael
JWS : New 19th century FALSE religion ( 1875 )
SAME AS.......
SDA : New 19th century FALSE religion ( 1863 )
JWS : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion DENOMINATION church
SAME AS.......
SDA : Claims to be the ONLY ONE TRUE religion DENOMINATION church
JWS : Favorite word is SHUN your OWN family and friends
SAME AS........
SDA : Favorite word is HATE or ATTACK
A ) The minute one questions their literature
B ) The minute one questions their authorities
C ) The minute one questions their FALSE prophets
"" Awake ""
Ellen G White
"" Watchtower ""
Joseph Rutherford
Charles Taze Russell
JWS : WORKS based religion
SDA : WORKS based religion
JWS : Has their seat in NEW YORK
SDA : Has their seat in MARYLAND
JWS : Have their OWN Bible
SDA : Have their OWN Bible
JWS : Charles Taze Russell has an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun
"" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above his gravesite
SAME AS .......
SDA : Ellen G White purchased an Egyptian Obelisk ALL seeing eye MASONIC Freemason TOMBSTONE dedicated to the PAGAN sun
"" god "" that still till this day stands tall and proud above her and her husbands gravesite
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH ( The CROSS )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
2 Timothy 1 : 8 - 9
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH ( The CROSS )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
ANSWER
Jesus Christ set the PERFECT EXAMPLE of NOT being a vegetarian before and after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY and he ate Honeycomb and he ate FLESH EATING BROILED FISH MEAT in front of his Holy Apostles after his PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Luke 24 : 39 - 42
ANSWER
GRACE
G - Gods
R - Riches
A - At
C - Christs
E - Expense
Try it , Jesus - God - YESHUA in the flesh loves you and so do I !
AGAPE !
@@mazukza You have good Bible knowledge but there is an error concerning Elijah.
Elisha is rewarded for his faithfulness by seeing a fiery war chariot and fiery horses and Elijah ascending in a windstorm to the heavens, meaning the atmosphere. Elijah does not die at this time, nor does he go into the invisible spirit realm where God resides, but he is transferred to another prophetic assignment. (Joh 3:13)
This is shown by the fact that Elisha does not hold any period of mourning for his master. A number of years after his ascension in the windstorm ELIJAH IS STILL ALIVE AND ACTING AS A PROPHET, this time to the king of Judah. Because of the wicked course taken by King Jehoram of Judah, Elijah writes him a letter expressing Jehovah’s condemnation, which is fulfilled shortly thereafter.-2Ch 21:12-15
Nor did Elijah upon death ascend to the spiritual heavens, since Jesus, while on earth, clearly stated that “no man has ascended into heaven.” (Joh 3:13
Brother Allen, I have changed my mind about my belief in Soul Sleep because of this video! I tried unsuccessfully to quit smoking so I could become a JW, but now thanks to you I don't have to! You saved me, God bless you!
I think you should not continue to smoke though. It’s not good for your health or the health of others around you.
@@ChrissyAnn85
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Good SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
#1
What is worse than smoking is the
FALSE teachings of Adventism and the Jehovah Witnesses
#2
Adventism are the
Jehovah's Witnesses
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH ( The CROSS )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
We have absolutely no idea - your guess is as good as mine.
As a Former Adventist PK who was raised on Soul Sleep this is the most succinct, Scripture Filled Rebuttal I have seen or heard. And done as always with gentleness and much respect. I will be sharing this video with both my current Adventist Family and friends and formers as well.
Thank You .
Share with them this too th-cam.com/video/r4GtU_rqFww/w-d-xo.html
Bro that moses and Elijah bit was dumb moses dies but God resurrected him while Elijah nvr died smh
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Yesterday SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
#1
Ellen G White was a FALSE prophet
#2
Adventism are the
Jehovah's Witnesses
ANSWER
1st Corinthians 15 : 1 - 4
( EUANGELION ) in the GREEK for the GRACE of the Good News of the Gospel of Jesus Christ
His DEATH ( The CROSS )
His BURIAL ( NOT RESTED )
His PHYSICAL RESURRECTION on a beautiful SUNDAY !
He's completely wrong and weak on his references. The bible clearly states the dead know nothing.
@@warrior-xd2xn on earth bro 🤣
Hi Allen Parr, My mother was a righteous woman, she gave to people all her life and at age 68 - 69 she died from cancer. After her death and burial, she returned to me and said she was not sick anymore. She used to sing a lot, every day while she was alive and she came back after death, she was in a flesh-like body singing, the sun was shining in its glory and she said to me, "I am not sick anymore." I do believe that only the flesh dies because the spirit is immortal and cannot. Therefore; the spirits of the righteous go to a place of waiting and the unrighteous go to what we call hell. Before my mother died, at the last moment, she was talking to her mother who had already died! So they came to greet her and to welcome her into the spiritual world of life, waiting to return to serve in the government of The Almighty Jesus. The spirit cannot die.
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
My Brother died about two months ago and one experience that God allowed us to have was a supernatural confirmation that his soul is in Gods presence.
We received Dreams and Visions that are aligned with scriptures on life after death.
My brother did recognize JESUS as Savior and had proclaimed Christ as Lord but he struggled heavy on drugs and alcohol.
All though the death of my brother is the most painful thing I have ever gone through specially cause his death was in a tragic way.
Gods Truth tell us that Christ and the power of the Holy Spirit in someone that has called upon the Name of the LORD will be Saved.
These last minutes or seconds of life on earth are between the person and God how beautiful it is for a person in their last breath to experience the Saving Grace of God but how devastating it will be to live eternity disconnected from him-Our God (Jesus).
What Im learning is that
Everyday has its own Urgency for us to trust and surrender more to the Lord and spread this HOPE IN Christ that only through faith in him alone we are saved and satisfied.
Brother Allen I respected and enjoy your content for years and have been edified.
Appreciate your dedication to facilitated Gospel conversations and SOUND advice.
D-TOWERZ
Can you elaborate more on the dreams and visions you had.
Before you read the book of revelation you should read chapter 1 verse 1 and understand that we are talking of vision of things that are to take place.Not things that have taken place
Thank you Allen for good explanation. To add up... from my personal experience, I almost died in ICU and found myself running going up. I could not control my body but was able to think and ask myself question.. where am I going?? Then I found myself in a place where I could not explain the peace. So much peace. I saw so much people, each sitting in his chair so quiet so peaceful all in white. Then I arrived at a reception point, as I was being seated ( as you have no control over your motion, there is a force that controls you when you are dead not yourself) I awoke and found panel of doctor surrounded me. The a nurse told me"you are so lucky doctors where around, the situation was very bad" I told her I went very far up there... then nurses looked at each other with surprise. I was only 14yrs at that time. Therefore I know for sure.. there is life after death, and is GOD controlled.
Matthew 7:21..."DEPART FROM ME, I NEVER KNEW YOU...) Something to think about, seriously...
The scariest words you can ever hear.
This is NOT for HIS elect sheep/the believers in HIS Almighty Name, but for the religious people - John 6, 8,10,17...
...SEALED unto the day of redemption... Philippians 1😌
Every one that dies sleeps except the ones who God took to heaven by His will, the Bible teaches that when JESUS CHRIST comes back those who died in Christ will rise first....the Angel told daniel to go and rest till the time of the end then he would rise to his inheritance.
And God says he will bring those who died back with him if they were sleeping he would not bring them back with him
Anyone watching this: Brother Parr is teaching you how to properly use the WHOLE BIBLE when answering questions. Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth (BIBLE)... there will always be several verses to support a clear answer. If you're struggling, ask your study parter or follow your chain of study. Or, it may just be part of the God's Secret Things category. Everything we need is in the Bible. Brother Parr is teaching you how to study by example. Thanks, Brother Parr!
"And just as each person is destined to die once and after that comes judgment." (Hebrews 9:27) NLT Thank you Pastor Allen for sharing and explaining. God bless you and your TH-cam Ministry channel.
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
AMEN
@freegracejake42 where that came from ?
You must understand the bodies will be joined once again with their souls/spirits at the time Christ calls them out of the grave.
Then why does Jesus say "for no one has been up there in heaven" what's the whole point of Jesus second coming? To send everyone back to where they came from? Makes no sense.
This guy is really wrong
@@margiebkeith8583 who him! Yes. ..... Lazarus was asleep. When Christ comes the dead in Christ will rise and the once alive in Christ will rise up to meet him in the air. Why I thought they were in heaven? Then the wicked in earth will be raised from their graves and be judged and condemned . The Bible also says "the dead know nothing's" is illusions of evil spirits. All in the word. And if it was for me come with scripture not just he wrong ok nice proof en evidence. Take a hike
Yes and moses and elijah didnt die .. they were accended to heaven
@@margiebkeith8583 Where in the bible does it say that?
In John 3:13 Jesus said out of his own mouth!!!
"No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven-the Son of Man."
And you said Moses and Elijah did where? They were examples of Jesus to come later. The sprit of Elijah rested on Elijah after that.
Moses body was buried . Moses saw Jesus in the fesuture as it was an example of grace but they all resting with their ancestors. Asleep for the second resurrection.
Only one up there is the son of man who came down and went up. That even Stephen saw Jesus standing next to God in heaven. Repent !
Keep in mind that Jesus said this way later after the story of Moses and Elijah.
An Old Testament passage that also refutes Soul Sleep, in my mind, is 1 Samuel 28. King Saul has the witch at Endor summon the Spirit of Samuel. After being asked why the Lord had abandoned Saul and rebuking Saul for his disobedience, Samuel warns the King that Saul and his sons will all be with him the next day. A couple chapters later, Saul and his sons are slain by the Amalekites.
Right. Also, consider the parable of the rich man and Lazarus. After they die, they go to their respective places and are fully aware where they are. They are not in some hibernation mode or something like that. They know where they are. So, if OT believers went to Abraham's side and knew they were there. Why would God not allow an NT believer to go to heaven where He is?
The witch does no summon Samuel… she summoned familiar spirits which is condemned by God
@@zurizzle Read the passage again. It clearly says that she summoned Samuel's spirit. Now, in some translations, she's called a Summoner of familiar spirits as well as a witch and a medium. However, in the act itself, she summoned Samuel, and is terrified by the act. Furthermore, Samuel speaks of his own accord and predicted Saul's death to the day it happened.
@@zurizzle Samuel speaks from the dead for the Lord, *Another SDA doctrine goes to Hades*
In 1 Samuel 28: 5 times the inspired scripture by the Holy Spirit, emphatically and explicitly says it is Samuel speaking, not a Demon! *7 Then Saul told his officers, “Find me a woman who can talk to the spirits of the dead. I’ll go to her and find out what’s going to happen.”
His servants told him, “There’s a woman at Endor who can talk to spirits of the dead.”
8 That night, Saul put on different clothing so nobody would recognize him. Then he and two of his men went to the woman, and asked, “Will you bring up the ghost of someone for us?”
9 The woman said, “Why are you trying to trick me and get me killed? You know King Saul has gotten rid of everyone who talks to the spirits of the dead!”
10 Saul replied, “I swear by the living Lord that nothing will happen to you because of this.”
11 “Who do you want me to bring up?” she asked.
“Bring up the ghost (SOUL) of Samuel,” he answered. * (1st time scripture says ii IS Samuel, not a demon)
12 When the woman saw Samuel (2nd Time The scripture say is IS Samuel and not a demon!)
, she screamed. Then she turned to Saul and said, “You’ve tricked me! You’re the king!”
13 “Don’t be afraid,” Saul replied. “Just tell me what you see.”
She answered, “I see a spirit rising up out of the ground.”
14 “What does it look like?”
“It looks like an old man wearing a robe.”
*Saul knew it was Samuel,* so he bowed down low. (3rd Time The scripture say is IS Samuel and not a demon!)
15 “Why are you bothering me by bringing me up like this?” Samuel asked. * (4THTime The scripture say is IS Samuel and not a demon!)*
“I’m terribly worried,” Saul answered. “The Philistines are about to attack me. God has turned his back on me and won’t answer any more by prophets or by dreams. What should I do?”
16 Samuel said: *(5TH Time The scripture say is IS Samuel and not (a demon!* )
If the Lord has turned away from you and is now your enemy, don’t ask me what to do. 17 I’ve already told you: The Lord has sworn to take the kingdom from you and give it to David. And that’s just what he’s doing! 18 When the Lord was angry with the Amalekites, he told you to destroy them, but you didn’t do it. That’s why the Lord is doing this to you. ( *Samuel * )
19 *Tomorrow the Lord* will let the Philistines defeat Israel’s army, then you and your sons will join me down here in the world of the dead.
A true Prophet, prophesies and the event comes true and so, Saul died the next day!
NOW WATCH WHAT THE CLEAR (SIC) WORD BIBLE SAYS, "
14 1Sam 28:15 *CWB changes Samuel into an evil spirit!* “the evil spirit *personating* Samuel”; *“the spirit looked just lake Samuel and sounded so much like him, that Saul believed it really was the prophet”.*
This is nothing more than a deliberate attempt to change the inspired holy writings to fit the heresy of Adventistsm DOCTRINE!!!
@@grahck4391 Samuel speaks from the dead for the Lord, *Another SDA doctrine goes to Hades*
In 1 Samuel 28: 5 times the inspired scripture by the Holy Spirit, emphatically and explicitly says it is Samuel speaking, not a Demon! *7 Then Saul told his officers, “Find me a woman who can talk to the spirits of the dead. I’ll go to her and find out what’s going to happen.”
His servants told him, “There’s a woman at Endor who can talk to spirits of the dead.”
8 That night, Saul put on different clothing so nobody would recognize him. Then he and two of his men went to the woman, and asked, “Will you bring up the ghost of someone for us?”
9 The woman said, “Why are you trying to trick me and get me killed? You know King Saul has gotten rid of everyone who talks to the spirits of the dead!”
10 Saul replied, “I swear by the living Lord that nothing will happen to you because of this.”
11 “Who do you want me to bring up?” she asked.
“Bring up the ghost (SOUL) of Samuel,” he answered. * (1st time scripture says ii IS Samuel, not a demon)
12 When the woman saw Samuel (2nd Time The scripture say is IS Samuel and not a demon!)
, she screamed. Then she turned to Saul and said, “You’ve tricked me! You’re the king!”
13 “Don’t be afraid,” Saul replied. “Just tell me what you see.”
She answered, “I see a spirit rising up out of the ground.”
14 “What does it look like?”
“It looks like an old man wearing a robe.”
*Saul knew it was Samuel,* so he bowed down low. (3rd Time The scripture say is IS Samuel and not a demon!)
15 “Why are you bothering me by bringing me up like this?” Samuel asked. * (4THTime The scripture say is IS Samuel and not a demon!)*
“I’m terribly worried,” Saul answered. “The Philistines are about to attack me. God has turned his back on me and won’t answer any more by prophets or by dreams. What should I do?”
16 Samuel said: *(5TH Time The scripture say is IS Samuel and not (a demon!* )
If the Lord has turned away from you and is now your enemy, don’t ask me what to do. 17 I’ve already told you: The Lord has sworn to take the kingdom from you and give it to David. And that’s just what he’s doing! 18 When the Lord was angry with the Amalekites, he told you to destroy them, but you didn’t do it. That’s why the Lord is doing this to you. ( *Samuel * )
19 *Tomorrow the Lord* will let the Philistines defeat Israel’s army, then you and your sons will join me down here in the world of the dead.
A true Prophet, prophesies and the event comes true and so, Saul died the next day!
NOW WATCH WHAT THE CLEAR (SIC) WORD BIBLE SAYS, "
14 1Sam 28:15 *CWB changes Samuel into an evil spirit!* “the evil spirit *personating* Samuel”; *“the spirit looked just lake Samuel and sounded so much like him, that Saul believed it really was the prophet”.*
This is nothing more than a deliberate attempt to change the inspired holy writings to fit the heresy of Adventistsm DOCTRINE!!!
Jesus is the way the truth and the life no one comes to the Father except thru Him
Respectfully brother I think you’re wrong. Then why does Jesus say the day is coming for those that are asleep in the grave will hear my voice. God bless you brother.🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Matthew 27:52-53 And the graves were opened; and many bodies of the saints which slept arose, [53] And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the holy city, and appeared unto many.
That’s referring to the bodies
Please study the original language
That pretty much killed the argument. The gospels and Revelations are the key books to understanding this.
I’m so happy you decide to cover this video. I have been wondering about this recently and watching your old videos to try and figure it out. Truly believe God led me here!🙏🏽🙏🏽
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@vax, tests = mark of beast 1 if what you say is facts then you took the mark
(…reply to Mr. Parr. Please pray & consider…)
Mr. Parr, so, you continue to keep to Satan’s preaching about death, that we, “…shall not surely die…” & this spiritualistic idea that we have an immortal soul…when the Bible teaches that man BECAME a living soul, after the breath of life was given. (…as the body w/out the spirit…so is faith w/out works dead…);
“…go to your ancestors…”; “…gathered to your people…” wouldn’t that mean that they’re in one place already…like maybe a burial plot? Doesn’t Acts 2:29, 34 say, that the man after God’s own heart, was dead, buried & hadn’t ascended to heaven? So, David, still buried, was gathered with “his fathers”, asleep until, like He did to Lazarus & what He WILL do w/all that are “dead sleep”now(….pun INTENDED 😉), Jesus calls them forth, with a loud voice & at the time, a 🎺…”…& the dead in Christ will rise first…” (((…side thought, what’s the point of a resurrection, of we go right to God at death…what would be the need to change our “…vile bodies…” into glorified bodies, at that point?…)))
“…today you will be with me in paradise!”
Comma placed anywhere w/in that statement wouldn’t change the fact that Jesus didn’t even go right to the paradise of heaven that very day He, they died…”Good Friday”, but on the 1st day of the week, He told Mary not to restrain Him, for He had not yet ascended to the Father. Jesus IS the truth. So, did He lie to the thief about being in paradise w/Him THAT day?
the Transfiguration: Elijah had been taken to heaven w/out seeing death (…via that fiery chariot…) & Moses actually died on that mountain overlooking the promised land that He was not permitted to go, but Jesus raised him from that death(…see Jude…), the first death.(…please reference what that means…) They were both there, in their glorified bodies…one having died & was raised,(…those that SLEEP in Christ1 Thessalonians 4:16…) & the other having never died(…”…in a twinkling of an eye…mortal puts on immortality…caught up to be with the Lord…” 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 / 1 Thessalonians 4:17…)
“…the Lake of 🔥 is empty right now…”
SO, WHERE IS THIS LAKE OF FIRE, RIGHT NOW?”
“And they went up on ~the breadth of THE EARTH~ and encompassed the camp of the saints about and the beloved city and fire came down from God out of heaven and devoured them…the devil that deceived them…the beast…the false prophet…death …hell & whosoever was not found written in the book of life, was cast into the lake of fire. And I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away…I saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven…and I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, ‘Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men and He will dwell with them…”~ Revelation 20:9-15, 21:1-3
So, WHERE IS THIS PLACE OF TORMENT SUPPOSED TO BE & WHAT WOULD BE THE PURPOSE OF God KEEPING THIS “MUSEUM OF SIN” AROUND, when we’ll already have “the books” to review, as well as the scars that will FOREVER remain on God Himself??? (…moved towards tears here! PLEASE THINK!!! reason with the text, with your gifted minds, lead by the Spirit of truth & make it make sense!!! Please!…)
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@@From_darkness2Life I was getting the feeling that Allen kept saying the next one was going to be better because he knew that what was just presented was wishy-washy at best. I would love for hime to do a live bible study with a channel like school for prophets.
I'm really glad Allen made this video as a response to the last video (that he mentioned)!
I was one of the people in the original video that brought up the discussion of soul sleep. It is an understanding that I personally accept, and I look forward to hearing his response on the topic.
I must admit that I don't have the time to watch the video now, but I plan to do so today, and I'm open to one of two outcomes. I hope to either learn something new that debunks my previous understanding, or if I still disagree, that I can later take the time to formulate a response on why I haven't changed my position.
Soul sleep is not a concept that I passionately cleave to, and I'm perfectly willing to be swayed to whichever side of the debate aligns with the truth and I look forward to that possibility either way.
Thanks Allen, in advance for the video!
Here is another great explanation! th-cam.com/video/JlK5E_vDdI4/w-d-xo.html
"To be absent from the body IS to be PRESENT with the Lord". "For God so loved the world....SHOULD NOT perish" - Jn 3:16. "He that LIVETH and believeth in Me SHALL NEVER DIE" - Jesus, Gospel of John.
Thank you Pastor Allen Parr. The word of the Lord gives me hope🌱❤
Absent from the body, present with the Lord! 🙌🏻
No your quoting 2 Corinth. He says we rather be absent from the body and present with the lord not that that will happen soon as you die
Jesus said “All who are in the graves will hear His voice and come forth” (John 5:28, 29). “David … is both dead and buried, and his tomb is with us to this day. … For David did not ascend into the heavens” (Acts 2:29, 34). “If I wait, the grave is mine house” (Job 17:13 KJV). People do not go to heaven or to hell at death. They don’t go anywhere-but they wait in their graves for the first or second resurrection.
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Two days ago SUNDAY PHYSICAL RESURRECTION WORSHIP day was GREAT !
"" I AM the RESURRECTION ! ""
John 11 : 25
I remember another video you made about this and it helped me understand what happens when we die and this video just brought it back to the forefront of my mind, thanks for your teachings and God bless you.