I actually really like the shifter feel. The rocker arm takes a little bit of getting used to. But it is really nice in long races. If I need to adjust car settings or scratch my nose, I can shift up and down with a single hand. There's a reason they used that type of shifter in the McLaren 650S GT3 car.
I got my mclaren wheel today, and it looks like they upgraded the shifter cause it does hardly sound at all now. Saw another person who bought one too said the same thing.
I wish they would release a Pro/SportsCLub/Podium version of the McLaren wheel with better shifters, vibration motors, real carbon fiber and and all together higher quality finfish, that would be sweet!
How are you reckoning the Formula to be the premiere Fanatec rim? Take a peek at the website and have a drool over their higher spec stuff. The Mclaren rim has saved sim-racing for me. Recently lost a leg and was dreading the thought of having to go back to a controller or have somebody build me an expensive solution. For just 200 quid I'm back in the game with all the control I need. I like the feel of the shifters and the push/pull motion gives me options. Cheers Fanatec for keeping me racing.
Glad to see that youre able to enjoy our beloved hobby even though its tough. If you dont mind me asking,how is it driving without your legs? Is it harder or easier?
@@maxboskeljon6440if I were to take a guess I’d assume it’s harder. Take billy monger for example who has to have pedals custom lay built on his wheel for him to race. You would lose some feel of the car as it’s more difficult to gradually increase throttle
I sold my Formula V2 following getting the Mclaren. Shifters are loud and long-throw as standard but easily fixable. The QR could be better as it transpires that many find it has a 'clunk' if there's any play whatsoever between the notch and the keyway on the wheel shaft and I've stuck my hand up with Fanatec to make them aware of a wider problem. Even so, it's bloody great if you ask me, just right.
23:11 That caveat is one of its biggest pros: the light weight makes it easier for the base to send road signals to the hands. The tiny impulses are less dampened than with a weighty wheel, so you should feel more details, like road textures. The shifter (on the first version) did make me look for old style two fingered MTB gloves, but I didn't find them at my local online store. :)
Great comparison! I replaced my Formula rim with the Maclaren V2 and haven’t touched the Formula rim since. The Maclaren V2 is just about perfect with the Clubsport V2.5.
i have the McLaren GT3 wheel on order together with the CSL DD and shifting feel is one of the most important things for me when it comes to racing, so i hope i will not find it too bad otherwise i might have to send it back and get the Formula V2... Quick Update, it came exactly as i expected, i was not satisfied with the shifting on the McLaren GT3 wheel and also did not like how the handles material felt in my hand, so i sent it back after one week and got myself the Formula V 2.5 (not the x version as i dont like alcantara grips) and its perfect. Taking into consideration that the metallic quick release is inculded with the formula wheel (350€) you basically end up paying only 50€ more compared to the McLaren wheel plus QR (300€ together) and its a no-brainer to me.
This is exactly what I'm considering ordering, a DD Pro base and one of these 2 wheels but I'm torn between them because of the diameter which so many people are saying the Fv2.5 @ 270mm isn't best for GT3 style.
@@F.Piccolo dont worry about it, i drive the smaller diameter wheel and have no problem with longer races. Jardier for example also has the smaller wheel and he is doing way longer races than i do. The problem is that the overall quality of the mclaren wheel is so bad, i HATE using the paddle shifters there and its such an essential part of racing, i can't ignore it. And the rubber used for the wheel is simply cheap stuff, unless you wear gloves, i don't want to touch it ever again.
@@th3orist Thanks Andre, yeah I'm leaning towards the Fv2.5, but need to be extra careful on choice because of cost and being in Canada I have to order from the USA, so sending anything back is not a good option for me. 😊
I love the formula v2. You may want to dial the FFB strength down a couple of notches coming from a larger wheel though. There is definitely less leverage hence stronger FFB.
After watching your video few months ago, i made my decision to buy this McLaren GT3 V2 steering wheel. It's just arrived today. Sad to see you no longer doing video on this channel. wish you all the best.
I have both of these wheels, and I agree 99%. F v2 is just too small. 30cm is the optimum. Also the F v2 has some sharp edges which will hurt your hands on long runs. The McLaren is very nice to hold and steer. I agree with the shifters, but it's not that bad, I forget about it pretty quickly during racing.
I love my McLaren GT3 wheel so much I now have both a V1 and a V2, but my F1 2018 rim with the PAPM gets so much more use. There's very few buttons on the Mclaren that are easily accessible, while I have 8 buttons, 2 rotaries. a joystick, and a funkyswitch that I can use without having to move my hands from the grips on the Formula V2. The McLaren's issues are furthered thanks to the insane amount of resistance on the pit and neutral buttons, making it futile to map them to a function that's used regularly.
Have to disagree massively on the shifters and I know a lot of others would agree, the magnetic shifters on the McLaren are far superior to the formula wheels imo. They just use a switch that feels decent but you can’t match magnets, plus the feel of the macca rim is also more premium. Not the mention the clutch paddles which the FV2 just doesn’t have unless you spend well over £500. When you consider you get magnet shifters and clutch paddles all for £199. It’s a no brainer for most.
The Formula V2 has the rpm lights because it is meant for clubsport/DD bases. The McLaren is a CSL, it is meant to be used on that base, and the CSL base has the lights already, so you don't need them (like my case, I got a CSL Elite PS4). But you're right, the smaller the rim, the easier to move but also it is easier to get tired. That is why I got a NASCAR wheel for my long NASCAR races.
Nice review fella. The ergonomics of the Maclaren wheel seems to be the feature over the Formula V2 wheel. I think I would be more leaning towards the Formula V2 for the bang for buck. The Maclaren wheel seems great but the build quality for the price isn't really there for me. Oh and good onya for standing with 604. Shows great community support.👍
Thanks to your video, I cancelled my formula v2 order and ordered the McLaren gt3. Ergonomics are more important to me then a premium feeling and extra knobs. Plus, the Mclaren wheel is an actual replica of a wheel used in a GT3 car. its a no brainer.
I wish Fanatec would have made the F1 rim the one with open bottom grips 280mm and the Formula V2 with the closed bottom grips 300mm they could have made them almost using all the same parts. I also love the Diablo theme music.
So, I've been using the fanatec f1 wheel with podium shifters that came with my DD1. Love it. However, I mostly race Indycar. Lately tried my 918 Porsche wheel (which mostly has just sat on the wall since buying it) for GT3 cars and it definitely seems way better to me for that type of car then my f1 wheel. I do wish the BMW wheel was going to be more reasonably priced as I prefer the format of non-round wheels but seems something bigger than my podium F1 wheel is best for GT3 cars. For now I'll just use the 918 wheel but hoping they come out with something nicer then the McLaren wheel but nice as pricey as the BMW. We'll see I guess.
I have the Formula v2 and I love it. Ermin about the v2, you're right about fatigue specially on the shoulders. I would go to a GT wheel next but not the Maclaren GT3 wheel.
Hey mate just curious if you still are using the Formula V2 and if you still love it…Im about ready to upgrade my setup from thrustmaster to a bundle from fanatec..thanks ahead!!
great comparison, wanted the mclaren purely for it being a bit bigger... but I will wait it out, as I'm so sued to the v2 already if every fanatec listen when they do a new gt wheel, make one that resembles the formula wheel in quality + buttons + leds on the v2, but with a larger size still as my hands are smaller it doesn't wear me out that fast, so sticking to the v2 for now and see what the future brings
Nice music. Just switched my OMP Kubik (310 mm) with Ascher bottonbox against an Ascher F28-SC (285 mm) and even before trying it, I reduced the torque by about 15% and individually per car often enough as well. So with a belt-drive-system you get considerable more torque with a smaller rim and switching from a >2 kg heavy 320 mm BMW-wheel to this 270 mm light Formula wheel is probably almost like getting a DD1. Certainly it's also a trade-off between more precision or faster counter-steering. 270 mm seems too small for my size and 285 mm the bottom line to keep control over my SC2 Pro, which already kicked it out of my hands a few times during collisions.
THE McLaren is a winner and will eventually become their bestselling wheel. The plastic feel you mention isn't there when you're driving so it's not too relevant for peeps if they on the fence. Nice review
Well, this refew is now two years old, so is my McLaren. This video, and some others, helped me with my decition to buy the McLaren. All the buttons and the fact that it is a 30 inch wheel was importantnto me. In the two years I never had any issues. But then the Problems startet with the shifter. At times, it just didn't shift up and it finally gave up completley. The shifter button inside kinda disintigrated. So, the wheel is basically done. A new shifter is not worth the money.
I had the mclaren wheel and found it cheap feeling i didn't like the plastic feel and mine started to squeak in my hands, i sold it and got a v2 formula and yes at first it wasn't as comfortable but once my hands got used to it i much prefer the build quality.
Spot on review. Like you, I have big hands and the v2 is too small. Causing cramping in my fingers and hands. Picked up the McLaren to be my go to main rim. I’ll use the v2 for hotlap and quick sessions. Cheers!
0:07 I actually really appreciate the honesty here 😂 You’re good bro. Great info. I just bought the GT3 and looking forward to giving her a go, as my bundle included the Gran Turismo wheel and GT DD Pro (with boost kit). That wheel does look fun but when I saw the Mclaren edition wheel I had to have it. So glad to see that it’s actually proper. Also, 17:55 wow lol.
When you go down the pit lane with the clubsport v2x the lights blink in sinc with the ones on the screen it looks so cool, its irreplaceable .If your on F1 23
Comprehensive, thanks! Was looking to get a better wheel than the stock CSL DD one, and the McLaren GT3 seems like the better buy considering the size.
I changed my McClaren V1 to the SRM magnetic shifters and I’d rate it right below my GSR GXL. Sold the formula V2 was just too small for me and made my shoulders hurt.
I just sold my Formula v2 with APM. I didn’t like it at all. Felt too small, like my arms were being pressed in. The stock shifters felt not great and left my fingers no room. And the worst thing was I spent a year with it afraid to touch it with my bare hands. I just bought a McLaren v2 to replace it.
Just a thought about the comfort with the v2, as you have mentioned your body size. Surprisingly enough, Jardier has used the McLaren GT3, but seems that ended up coming back to his formula v2, no longer using the GT3 in later videos; and he is such a big guy, and tall. So maybe is a matter of posture also. I've got the v2 but didn't have to change to use it yet. I was hesitant to get the GT3 but, as someone else pointed, the quality of materials maybe will not pleased me and also because I already own a Huracan GT3 rim custom made 300mm...
Posture and ergonomics make a HUGE difference. If you look closely you can see him having his forearms a bit too stretched. Maybe two-three inches closer to the rim or rim to his body would widen the space between his elbows as well as give them a bit more angle in the bend...gives more precise movement without moving the shoulders as much and release the tension in his wrists. (Watch a professional racing driver...none of them move their upper body...arms only...not Ermin...he still uses quite a lot of upper body movements especially shoulders. another guy doing this is Jimmy Broadbent...although I feel he toned it down a bit lately) I did the exact same thing coming to this rim and a few degrees in elbows make a huge difference. It feels a bit awkward at first if you have this bad habit but you get used to it very quickly and for me it makes the whole difference in the world :P PS: The same exact thing applies to the legs and feet as well...you need to nail the ratio between upper leg force for pressing the brake and enough flex in the ankle/foot to still be able to modulate it finely without stressing the ankle. Also huge difference. The problem now is that I get so comfortable in the cockpit that if the race is boring...I very much get sleepy. :P
@@marian-gabriel9518 hey, thanks a lot for this... I'm always interesting in listening people that I feel have an idea of what they are talking about, and I do think you do. Thanks. Always learning something new....
Brilliant, ive been getting hand/wrist fatigue since getting the Formula. I thought it was coz i changed the seating position! Ill have to go back to the mclaren.
Got the McLaren wheel with the QR. I also change the shifters with the Sim Makerz one. Then it cost the same price as the Formula 1. If you then compare it, then the F1 give you more for the money. Don't get me wrong, I love that McLaren wheel now, especially with the shifters. But even when it feels heavier and looks more medium, it still feels plastic. I'm going to order the F1 v2.5X next week. And I'll see what will be my favorite.
You can get a conversion kit and then use it on any wheel base, at the moment I use it on my T300 but my plan is to get a simucube 2 pro at some point. Check out www.simracingmachines.com/WebShop/conversion-kit-for-mclaren-v2-gt3-wheel
@@inebium does it work well on the t300? ive been wanting to get a nice rim like this for mine but i havent been able to find anyone who's actually using a t300 (ive just seen people converting it to simucube etc)
@@neilbasuracing Yes, it works perfect. I got the adapter for thrustmaster also from simracingmachines: www.simracingmachines.com/WebShop/thrustmaster-qr-adapter. The support/service on this website is amazing.
Good ya for adding that. I saw the mod the other day but for the life of me couldn't remember it. Here's the link if anyone is interested. www.simracingmachines.com/WebShop/gear-shifter-upgrade-for-mclaren-wheel
Just like everyone else with a Podium wheel base. The giant OLED screen sits idle on the splash screen. Me- “Wouldn’t it be great if you could use it as a tuning menu with just a Podium Hub, button clusters and aftermarket rim?” Fanatec- “Naw dummy, we want you to use a wheel that already has a screen on it to access that screen.” Me- “Well since that’s the case can’t you just cut the screen out and make the Podiums a little cheaper in cost?” Fanatec- “Naw dummy, you’re rich, we have a multi thousand dollar BMW rim coming that you Podium owners can also use in your BMW race cars. It uses out newest feature called Placebo-dirt-shock-carbon fiber. It’s great, it will do absolutely nothing for you but you’ll think it does. Me- “Asking $2k for all of it. I’m out!”
Got my Mclaren gt3 wheel. They seem to have updated the shifters cause they hardly make a sound now. Only bad thing is the 3 encoders. They feel really cheap. Maybe they are mounted on a wobbly pcb, but the dont give a premium feel. I wished they felt like a encoder on some expensive synth
My mclaren GT3 V2 shifter broke after only 3 months. Got a new one through warranty, but I can already feel it going back to the same broken state very slowly. It's an awesome wheel feature wise for the price. But quality of the shifter is very poor durability wise as well.
Hey can you tell me how to move in ACC with Fanatec? No matter what I do, my car does not move at all. The game don't react to my Fanatec. Everything is connected and I was able to move my wheel in the menu but in the actual racing, the car does nothing.
Thanks for the review Ermin! I want to get into simracing and i was considering buying the clubsport wheel base 2.5 with the formula v2 rim or the bmw gt2. I would mainly play gt3 but i was thinking the bmw gt2 it would be a better fit as all rounder rim. I'm really undecided at the moment lol, although i've smaller hands than you so it should be ok for me the v2 in the end, as i really love the look of it and those customizable leds! Also subbed! :)
Can recommend the BMW GT2 rim. Build quality is amazing and served me well for endurance sessions. It is lacking some rotary encoders but has a dpad and analog stick to make up for it. Looking forward to receiving the McLaren GT3 rim. Not sure yet if I can stand the haptics against the BMW GT2 :)
i have had the csw 2.5 for over 2 years now, still running strong. I own Formula V1 and V2 (silver) rims as well as the Mclaren GT3 V1. My V2 got signed by Simon Pagenaud so I hardly ever use it. Honestly tho my Mclaren GT3 rim is my favorite and most used, its the perfect size, feel of grips is great. When buying it I never thought it would end up as my daily driver as it has, but it really is a great wheel. Only games I wish I had a full wheel for are rally games.
Great review! I'm getting ready to upgrade to a GT DD Pro and have been trying to decide between the Fv2.5 and McLaren to use for GT3 mainly. I really like the looks / features and build quality of the Fv2.5 but I'm torn because of the size. You mentioned that you're a "bigger guy", so I wonder if it would make a difference that I'm a smaller guy with narrow shoulders and a glove size M/L. Could the smaller diameter be better for me? Curious on your thoughts.
Have you tried assigning one of the buttons as a shift key. It’s really helpful for me in acc. To then have multiple uses for each button. For example the red toggles I have set to be brake bias. Then when I hold shift it changes the tc2 setting.
Fantastic video! What about Maclaren GT3 vs GranTurismo DD PRO rims? Is it worth it to purchase the bundle DD PRO and add a new rim or not? Thinking on playing GTSport and ACC. Thanks in advance!
The gt3 is the best bang for your buck of any wheel rim on the market. Yes any lol its funny that its preference the shifters are amazing on it most like it. Don't state something that's subjective as a fact.
You're comparing a formula wheel to a GT3 wheel while sim racing in a GT3 car. Of COURSE the GT3 wheel will be better regardless of price. If you really want to compare cheap vs expensive, compare them in the same category of racing. Take the Fanatec Porsche GT3 wheel vs the McLaren GT3 wheel
I love my V2 Formula but its too small, not even talking about the diameter necessarily but where your thumbs go its just too tight for quick lock to lock movements when trying to catch a oh shit moment. I find it often times have to use one arm which works but isn't really ideal. I end up bumping the rotary knobs or something by mistake. I have small hands to boot haha
Well, not cheapest at least. Gt3 Maclaren only works well if you change paddles and hub for metal ones, since fanatec only works with DD bases and higher torques on DD1 and DD2,
So i am quite lost, what is actually the difference between the plastic QR and the metal QR? Is it so much of a difference or is the extra money not worth?
If they would release a Clubsport GT3 wheel, I would instantly buy it. I just love the feel of my formula V2 and am afraid that I would be disappointed with the materials of the McLaren.
The McLaren rim is a bit of a step down in quality from the Formula V2, so it's hard to suggest going backward. The ergonomics are so much better though (for my hands).
@@1FORIMPERIUM 🤣🤣🤣 Maybe you will too one day. Gotta say I had a hard time justifying the cost but coming from the Logitech G920 to the Clubsport V2.5 has been worth it. Didn't make me quick but you get more feedback.
@@1FORIMPERIUM That's what I was going to do but got lucky. Missus backed it so ran with it. Gotta take what you can when you can.😁👍 Still getting over the bloody cost.
Simmakerz have a mod "the Magnetic SimShifterZ Hybrid McLaren GT3 Evo" for the shifters on the CSL Elite McLaren GT3 V2, it will fix your problem and make the perfect wheel for you. The catch is its 110€ with shipping...
What do you mean by fatigue in the hands? it's only been a couple of laps. Perhaps you are squeezing the grips too hard? I have the Formula V2 and also would have liked it even more if it was about 1/2"- 1" larger in diameter. Everything else is pretty good!
good video and i agree with you on the most parts. but.... how can you find the shifters on the Formula V2 better? They're springloaded metalplates with no actual feedback telling you when the shift is done. and they're so light i happened to press them without noticing more then once. They just invite you to misshift xD still great review!
I have the Formula Carbon and the shifters are the worst thing on older Fanatec wheels. I can't get it how he can find the old springy shifters better as the more taktile magnetic ones. Even on the CSL WRC wheel the shifters feels way better as the old Fanatec Formula shifters :D
If you're using it on the Podium series bases with High Torque mode engaged, you'll want the metal QR. If you're using it on a CSL DD or GT DD Pro, you'll be fine with the standard plastic QR. However, you will gain a bit of rigidity from going to the metal in any case.
Pff i am still in big doubtbwitch to choose. How much better is the force feedback om the v2? Thats for me the only reason to choose the v3 over the mclaren
I have purchased this Mclaren V2 wheel like the layout etc, but the rattling from the buttons are just a non starter for me. Reverted back to my old wheel which does not rattle like this. I have emailed Fanatec with video and they say this is normal. Not sure if I can purchase another wheel just don't want the rattle
Hé..nice vid! Hope people still wondering around here 😋 I have my eye on the mclaren wheel for quite some time and i’m wondering if you can put buttoncaps over the standard buttons? Like over the four colerd xbox buttons. Thanks in advance. And i do agree you’re saying about the v2 wheels. I had 4 of them and i’m about to sell a third just because of the size. There so small. Just saying..ltrrr
perfect timing. My Formula v2 will arrive in 3 hours.
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You’ll be happy and love it. I have both and neither is a bad pick. Enjoy 😉
I have it and have had a blast with it. I picked it up after Barrys sim racing garage review and have no complaints!
You'll love it, man. I have had mine for a week or so and it really adds to the experience. It really punches above its weight.
I actually really like the shifter feel. The rocker arm takes a little bit of getting used to. But it is really nice in long races. If I need to adjust car settings or scratch my nose, I can shift up and down with a single hand. There's a reason they used that type of shifter in the McLaren 650S GT3 car.
mod it with a thumbtack and you won't be hearing it as much either
agreed its super nice
I got my mclaren wheel today, and it looks like they upgraded the shifter cause it does hardly sound at all now. Saw another person who bought one too said the same thing.
I wish they would release a Pro/SportsCLub/Podium version of the McLaren wheel with better shifters, vibration motors, real carbon fiber and and all together higher quality finfish, that would be sweet!
How are you reckoning the Formula to be the premiere Fanatec rim? Take a peek at the website and have a drool over their higher spec stuff.
The Mclaren rim has saved sim-racing for me. Recently lost a leg and was dreading the thought of having to go back to a controller or have somebody build me an expensive solution. For just 200 quid I'm back in the game with all the control I need. I like the feel of the shifters and the push/pull motion gives me options. Cheers Fanatec for keeping me racing.
Glad to see that youre able to enjoy our beloved hobby even though its tough. If you dont mind me asking,how is it driving without your legs? Is it harder or easier?
@@maxboskeljon6440if I were to take a guess I’d assume it’s harder. Take billy monger for example who has to have pedals custom lay built on his wheel for him to race. You would lose some feel of the car as it’s more difficult to gradually increase throttle
I sold my Formula V2 following getting the Mclaren. Shifters are loud and long-throw as standard but easily fixable. The QR could be better as it transpires that many find it has a 'clunk' if there's any play whatsoever between the notch and the keyway on the wheel shaft and I've stuck my hand up with Fanatec to make them aware of a wider problem. Even so, it's bloody great if you ask me, just right.
Wow you sold your v2! I also have the mclaren, its perfect
23:11 That caveat is one of its biggest pros: the light weight makes it easier for the base to send road signals to the hands. The tiny impulses are less dampened than with a weighty wheel, so you should feel more details, like road textures.
The shifter (on the first version) did make me look for old style two fingered MTB gloves, but I didn't find them at my local online store. :)
Great comparison! I replaced my Formula rim with the Maclaren V2 and haven’t touched the Formula rim since. The Maclaren V2 is just about perfect with the Clubsport V2.5.
oooh funny you say that, just got that second hand no pedals yet, but fun 1st day
Same. I tried my Formula V2 last night. I put the Macca back on. I upgraded to the Cbspt Mag shifter.
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i have the McLaren GT3 wheel on order together with the CSL DD and shifting feel is one of the most important things for me when it comes to racing, so i hope i will not find it too bad otherwise i might have to send it back and get the Formula V2...
Quick Update, it came exactly as i expected, i was not satisfied with the shifting on the McLaren GT3 wheel and also did not like how the handles material felt in my hand, so i sent it back after one week and got myself the Formula V 2.5 (not the x version as i dont like alcantara grips) and its perfect.
Taking into consideration that the metallic quick release is inculded with the formula wheel (350€) you basically end up paying only 50€ more compared to the McLaren wheel plus QR (300€ together) and its a no-brainer to me.
This is exactly what I'm considering ordering, a DD Pro base and one of these 2 wheels but I'm torn between them because of the diameter which so many people are saying the Fv2.5 @ 270mm isn't best for GT3 style.
@@F.Piccolo dont worry about it, i drive the smaller diameter wheel and have no problem with longer races. Jardier for example also has the smaller wheel and he is doing way longer races than i do. The problem is that the overall quality of the mclaren wheel is so bad, i HATE using the paddle shifters there and its such an essential part of racing, i can't ignore it. And the rubber used for the wheel is simply cheap stuff, unless you wear gloves, i don't want to touch it ever again.
@@th3orist Thanks Andre, yeah I'm leaning towards the Fv2.5, but need to be extra careful on choice because of cost and being in Canada I have to order from the USA, so sending anything back is not a good option for me. 😊
I love the formula v2. You may want to dial the FFB strength down a couple of notches coming from a larger wheel though. There is definitely less leverage hence stronger FFB.
So enjoyable review/comparison. Your pace, background music, relaxed talking, .... Thanks!
After watching your video few months ago, i made my decision to buy this McLaren GT3 V2 steering wheel. It's just arrived today. Sad to see you no longer doing video on this channel. wish you all the best.
I have both of these wheels, and I agree 99%. F v2 is just too small. 30cm is the optimum. Also the F v2 has some sharp edges which will hurt your hands on long runs. The McLaren is very nice to hold and steer. I agree with the shifters, but it's not that bad, I forget about it pretty quickly during racing.
For F1 games I think the size is fine, the Genuine F1 Wheels are 280mm this F1 v2 is 270mm
I love my McLaren GT3 wheel so much I now have both a V1 and a V2, but my F1 2018 rim with the PAPM gets so much more use. There's very few buttons on the Mclaren that are easily accessible, while I have 8 buttons, 2 rotaries. a joystick, and a funkyswitch that I can use without having to move my hands from the grips on the Formula V2. The McLaren's issues are furthered thanks to the insane amount of resistance on the pit and neutral buttons, making it futile to map them to a function that's used regularly.
Have to disagree massively on the shifters and I know a lot of others would agree, the magnetic shifters on the McLaren are far superior to the formula wheels imo. They just use a switch that feels decent but you can’t match magnets, plus the feel of the macca rim is also more premium. Not the mention the clutch paddles which the FV2 just doesn’t have unless you spend well over £500. When you consider you get magnet shifters and clutch paddles all for £199. It’s a no brainer for most.
Woohoo.. just received my gt3 rim this past weekend and its been a blast to use. Even the wife approved 👍
🤣🤣🤣 Can't go pass the Missus tick of approval.
Pre-ordered the McLaren GT3, comfort is supreme for me. I get the vibrations through the CS pedals and $200 is far easier to swallow.
Congratulations on being succesful enough to get others making negative videos about you.
Peak of popularity
Who making a negative video of our lad ermin?
@@untrainedprofessionals2374 Moldovan mod thieves probably.
Ignore the haters. They are almost without exception jealous, frustrated people.
@@kiekiek Like I say to whingers. If you don't like it have a go at it yourself. Not so easy.
The Formula V2 has the rpm lights because it is meant for clubsport/DD bases. The McLaren is a CSL, it is meant to be used on that base, and the CSL base has the lights already, so you don't need them (like my case, I got a CSL Elite PS4). But you're right, the smaller the rim, the easier to move but also it is easier to get tired. That is why I got a NASCAR wheel for my long NASCAR races.
Nice review fella. The ergonomics of the Maclaren wheel seems to be the feature over the Formula V2 wheel. I think I would be more leaning towards the Formula V2 for the bang for buck. The Maclaren wheel seems great but the build quality for the price isn't really there for me.
Oh and good onya for standing with 604. Shows great community support.👍
24:02 Broski pumpin the Tristram track from diablo in the background like a true OG
Thanks to your video, I cancelled my formula v2 order and ordered the McLaren gt3. Ergonomics are more important to me then a premium feeling and extra knobs. Plus, the Mclaren wheel is an actual replica of a wheel used in a GT3 car. its a no brainer.
The v.2.5x went on sale on 2023 Black Friday sale for 199.95 US dollars. Had to pick one up and almost grabbed two 😂
Wow at 24:00 I heard the FIRST sound and knew, this is Diablo 2 :D Thanks for the review!
Excellent and thorough comparison- sharing it with some friends that are stuck deciding between these two wheels.
I wish Fanatec would have made the F1 rim the one with open bottom grips 280mm and the Formula V2 with the closed bottom grips 300mm they could have made them almost using all the same parts. I also love the Diablo theme music.
Watching this I knew instantly what it was glad someone else noticed.
So, I've been using the fanatec f1 wheel with podium shifters that came with my DD1. Love it. However, I mostly race Indycar. Lately tried my 918 Porsche wheel (which mostly has just sat on the wall since buying it) for GT3 cars and it definitely seems way better to me for that type of car then my f1 wheel. I do wish the BMW wheel was going to be more reasonably priced as I prefer the format of non-round wheels but seems something bigger than my podium F1 wheel is best for GT3 cars. For now I'll just use the 918 wheel but hoping they come out with something nicer then the McLaren wheel but nice as pricey as the BMW. We'll see I guess.
I too am "driving impaired", so the Mclaren GT3 V2 sounds like a great entry level / mid market wheel for me. Thanks for the review! It's on order!
I have the Formula v2 and I love it. Ermin about the v2, you're right about fatigue specially on the shoulders. I would go to a GT wheel next but not the Maclaren GT3 wheel.
Hey mate just curious if you still are using the Formula V2 and if you still love it…Im about ready to upgrade my setup from thrustmaster to a bundle from fanatec..thanks ahead!!
I wish they would make the formula v2.5 rim in the size of a GT3 rim. Would be perfect.
great comparison, wanted the mclaren purely for it being a bit bigger... but I will wait it out, as I'm so sued to the v2 already
if every fanatec listen when they do a new gt wheel, make one that resembles the formula wheel in quality + buttons + leds on the v2, but with a larger size
still as my hands are smaller it doesn't wear me out that fast, so sticking to the v2 for now and see what the future brings
this dude giving me diablo flashbacks @24:00
did not think I would have that in a racing wheel review vid!
Nice music. Just switched my OMP Kubik (310 mm) with Ascher bottonbox against an Ascher F28-SC (285 mm) and even before trying it, I reduced the torque by about 15% and individually per car often enough as well. So with a belt-drive-system you get considerable more torque with a smaller rim and switching from a >2 kg heavy 320 mm BMW-wheel to this 270 mm light Formula wheel is probably almost like getting a DD1. Certainly it's also a trade-off between more precision or faster counter-steering. 270 mm seems too small for my size and 285 mm the bottom line to keep control over my SC2 Pro, which already kicked it out of my hands a few times during collisions.
THE McLaren is a winner and will eventually become their bestselling wheel. The plastic feel you mention isn't there when you're driving so it's not too relevant for peeps if they on the fence. Nice review
Well, this refew is now two years old, so is my McLaren. This video, and some others, helped me with my decition to buy the McLaren. All the buttons and the fact that it is a 30 inch wheel was importantnto me. In the two years I never had any issues. But then the Problems startet with the shifter. At times, it just didn't shift up and it finally gave up completley. The shifter button inside kinda disintigrated. So, the wheel is basically done. A new shifter is not worth the money.
When using the smaller rim maybe try adding a little more degrees of rotation ( I'd add 10 degs each time ), the car won't be as snappy hopefully
i have both and i definetely preffer the mclaren v2 because of ergonomics (much more confortable) and bigger size
23:56 Idk if anyone picked up the background music here or not, but I appreciate that it's Diablo!
I think Fanatec knows if they put those paddle shifters on the Mclaren rim , it's going to be the only one they sell lol.
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I had the mclaren wheel and found it cheap feeling i didn't like the plastic feel and mine started to squeak in my hands, i sold it and got a v2 formula and yes at first it wasn't as comfortable but once my hands got used to it i much prefer the build quality.
Great honest reviews! Surprising since most sim youtubers seem to shill big time.
Spot on review. Like you, I have big hands and the v2 is too small. Causing cramping in my fingers and hands. Picked up the McLaren to be my go to main rim. I’ll use the v2 for hotlap and quick sessions. Cheers!
I absolutely love the shifters on this rim
0:07 I actually really appreciate the honesty here 😂
You’re good bro. Great info. I just bought the GT3 and looking forward to giving her a go, as my bundle included the Gran Turismo wheel and GT DD Pro (with boost kit).
That wheel does look fun but when I saw the Mclaren edition wheel I had to have it. So glad to see that it’s actually proper.
Also, 17:55 wow lol.
Amazed by de quality of your sound.
When you go down the pit lane with the clubsport v2x the lights blink in sinc with the ones on the screen it looks so cool, its irreplaceable .If your on F1 23
Comprehensive, thanks! Was looking to get a better wheel than the stock CSL DD one, and the McLaren GT3 seems like the better buy considering the size.
Your channel is consistently enjoyable. You are doing a great job.
I changed my McClaren V1 to the SRM magnetic shifters and I’d rate it right below my GSR GXL. Sold the formula V2 was just too small for me and made my shoulders hurt.
I just sold my Formula v2 with APM. I didn’t like it at all. Felt too small, like my arms were being pressed in. The stock shifters felt not great and left my fingers no room. And the worst thing was I spent a year with it afraid to touch it with my bare hands.
I just bought a McLaren v2 to replace it.
Just a thought about the comfort with the v2, as you have mentioned your body size.
Surprisingly enough, Jardier has used the McLaren GT3, but seems that ended up coming back to his formula v2, no longer using the GT3 in later videos; and he is such a big guy, and tall. So maybe is a matter of posture also.
I've got the v2 but didn't have to change to use it yet.
I was hesitant to get the GT3 but, as someone else pointed, the quality of materials maybe will not pleased me and also because I already own a Huracan GT3 rim custom made 300mm...
Posture and ergonomics make a HUGE difference. If you look closely you can see him having his forearms a bit too stretched. Maybe two-three inches closer to the rim or rim to his body would widen the space between his elbows as well as give them a bit more angle in the bend...gives more precise movement without moving the shoulders as much and release the tension in his wrists. (Watch a professional racing driver...none of them move their upper body...arms only...not Ermin...he still uses quite a lot of upper body movements especially shoulders. another guy doing this is Jimmy Broadbent...although I feel he toned it down a bit lately) I did the exact same thing coming to this rim and a few degrees in elbows make a huge difference. It feels a bit awkward at first if you have this bad habit but you get used to it very quickly and for me it makes the whole difference in the world :P
PS: The same exact thing applies to the legs and feet as well...you need to nail the ratio between upper leg force for pressing the brake and enough flex in the ankle/foot to still be able to modulate it finely without stressing the ankle. Also huge difference. The problem now is that I get so comfortable in the cockpit that if the race is boring...I very much get sleepy. :P
@@marian-gabriel9518 hey, thanks a lot for this... I'm always interesting in listening people that I feel have an idea of what they are talking about, and I do think you do. Thanks. Always learning something new....
I'll try your recommendations!
Brilliant, ive been getting hand/wrist fatigue since getting the Formula. I thought it was coz i changed the seating position! Ill have to go back to the mclaren.
Got the McLaren wheel with the QR. I also change the shifters with the Sim Makerz one. Then it cost the same price as the Formula 1. If you then compare it, then the F1 give you more for the money. Don't get me wrong, I love that McLaren wheel now, especially with the shifters. But even when it feels heavier and looks more medium, it still feels plastic. I'm going to order the F1 v2.5X next week. And I'll see what will be my favorite.
Any update?
Well I got the F1 v2.5 and what a difference. Ok, I had to get use to it that it's smaller. But when you used to it. It is so much better.
Summary: features vs ergonomics. I have both and agree whole heartedly :)
Too bad i don't own any fanatec equipment. Will you be doing a comparison with the new Thrustmaster Ferrari F1 rim that comes out later this year?
You can get a conversion kit and then use it on any wheel base, at the moment I use it on my T300 but my plan is to get a simucube 2 pro at some point. Check out www.simracingmachines.com/WebShop/conversion-kit-for-mclaren-v2-gt3-wheel
@@inebium does it work well on the t300? ive been wanting to get a nice rim like this for mine but i havent been able to find anyone who's actually using a t300 (ive just seen people converting it to simucube etc)
@@neilbasuracing Yes, it works perfect. I got the adapter for thrustmaster also from simracingmachines: www.simracingmachines.com/WebShop/thrustmaster-qr-adapter. The support/service on this website is amazing.
Haven't heard anything about that!
SRM has a shifter upgrade for the mclaren wheel, but it requires some modification
Good ya for adding that. I saw the mod the other day but for the life of me couldn't remember it.
Here's the link if anyone is interested.
www.simracingmachines.com/WebShop/gear-shifter-upgrade-for-mclaren-wheel
Just like everyone else with a Podium wheel base. The giant OLED screen sits idle on the splash screen.
Me- “Wouldn’t it be great if you could use it as a tuning menu with just a Podium Hub, button clusters and aftermarket rim?”
Fanatec- “Naw dummy, we want you to use a wheel that already has a screen on it to access that screen.”
Me- “Well since that’s the case can’t you just cut the screen out and make the Podiums a little cheaper in cost?”
Fanatec- “Naw dummy, you’re rich, we have a multi thousand dollar BMW rim coming that you Podium owners can also use in your BMW race cars. It uses out newest feature called Placebo-dirt-shock-carbon fiber. It’s great, it will do absolutely nothing for you but you’ll think it does.
Me- “Asking $2k for all of it. I’m out!”
Got my Mclaren gt3 wheel. They seem to have updated the shifters cause they hardly make a sound now. Only bad thing is the 3 encoders. They feel really cheap. Maybe they are mounted on a wobbly pcb, but the dont give a premium feel. I wished they felt like a encoder on some expensive synth
My mclaren GT3 V2 shifter broke after only 3 months. Got a new one through warranty, but I can already feel it going back to the same broken state very slowly. It's an awesome wheel feature wise for the price. But quality of the shifter is very poor durability wise as well.
Which part of the shifter broke?
mclaren is good for the price but formula v2 has more buttons and it feels better.Both good for their prices
thumbs up for D2 soundtrack easter egg :)
Hey can you tell me how to move in ACC with Fanatec? No matter what I do, my car does not move at all. The game don't react to my Fanatec. Everything is connected and I was able to move my wheel in the menu but in the actual racing, the car does nothing.
Thanks for the review Ermin! I want to get into simracing and i was considering buying the clubsport wheel base 2.5 with the formula v2 rim or the bmw gt2. I would mainly play gt3 but i was thinking the bmw gt2 it would be a better fit as all rounder rim. I'm really undecided at the moment lol, although i've smaller hands than you so it should be ok for me the v2 in the end, as i really love the look of it and those customizable leds! Also subbed! :)
Can recommend the BMW GT2 rim. Build quality is amazing and served me well for endurance sessions. It is lacking some rotary encoders but has a dpad and analog stick to make up for it. Looking forward to receiving the McLaren GT3 rim. Not sure yet if I can stand the haptics against the BMW GT2 :)
i have had the csw 2.5 for over 2 years now, still running strong. I own Formula V1 and V2 (silver) rims as well as the Mclaren GT3 V1. My V2 got signed by Simon Pagenaud so I hardly ever use it. Honestly tho my Mclaren GT3 rim is my favorite and most used, its the perfect size, feel of grips is great. When buying it I never thought it would end up as my daily driver as it has, but it really is a great wheel. Only games I wish I had a full wheel for are rally games.
@@Tappi287 Heheh thanks! It does look amazing the BMW GT2 rim i must say!
@@GrantMerle Thanks for the input! The wheel base 2.5 i believe is the best before the podium isn't it? and the podium is out of my budget so... :)
Great review! I'm getting ready to upgrade to a GT DD Pro and have been trying to decide between the Fv2.5 and McLaren to use for GT3 mainly. I really like the looks / features and build quality of the Fv2.5 but I'm torn because of the size. You mentioned that you're a "bigger guy", so I wonder if it would make a difference that I'm a smaller guy with narrow shoulders and a glove size M/L. Could the smaller diameter be better for me? Curious on your thoughts.
Basically it’s $60 more than the GT3 after you make them comparable with the QD attachment.
Do you think it’s $60 better?
Have you tried assigning one of the buttons as a shift key. It’s really helpful for me in acc. To then have multiple uses for each button. For example the red toggles I have set to be brake bias. Then when I hold shift it changes the tc2 setting.
Can you explain how to do that ?
can you explain that x2
holly shit the BMW M4 GT3 is $2,300 AUD :O, Ermin wasn't kidding when he said it costs several times more
Fantastic video! What about Maclaren GT3
vs GranTurismo DD PRO rims? Is it worth it to purchase the bundle DD PRO and add a new rim or not? Thinking on playing GTSport and ACC. Thanks in advance!
I ended up getting the F1 V2 over the GT3 because the GT3 Lacks RPMs LED and that's a deal. Breaker plus the wheel feels cheap.
The gt3 is the best bang for your buck of any wheel rim on the market. Yes any lol its funny that its preference the shifters are amazing on it most like it. Don't state something that's subjective as a fact.
I have both, and prefer V2.5, esp with chunky pineapple grips :-)
@Ermin are you using fanalabs? If you are can you do a video of your settings for ACC... THANKS
I'm getting a new DD1 soon to diagnose some issues, but after I'm sure everything is running normally here I can definitely put it on the list.
You're comparing a formula wheel to a GT3 wheel while sim racing in a GT3 car. Of COURSE the GT3 wheel will be better regardless of price. If you really want to compare cheap vs expensive, compare them in the same category of racing. Take the Fanatec Porsche GT3 wheel vs the McLaren GT3 wheel
I love my V2 Formula but its too small, not even talking about the diameter necessarily but where your thumbs go its just too tight for quick lock to lock movements when trying to catch a oh shit moment. I find it often times have to use one arm which works but isn't really ideal. I end up bumping the rotary knobs or something by mistake. I have small hands to boot haha
Thanks for the nice review!
Did you make the video animations or did Fanatec give them to you?
Hey Folks ? What no legends!? and no brake bias mapping!?
Well, not cheapest at least. Gt3 Maclaren only works well if you change paddles and hub for metal ones, since fanatec only works with DD bases and higher torques on DD1 and DD2,
For a $200 wheel, it's not bad.
So i am quite lost, what is actually the difference between the plastic QR and the metal QR? Is it so much of a difference or is the extra money not worth?
199.99$ USD "Unless you live in california" ..... I have had mine for 2 weeks now and love it though
If they would release a Clubsport GT3 wheel, I would instantly buy it.
I just love the feel of my formula V2 and am afraid that I would be disappointed with the materials of the McLaren.
Why are u complaint u have a fanatec lmao
The McLaren rim is a bit of a step down in quality from the Formula V2, so it's hard to suggest going backward. The ergonomics are so much better though (for my hands).
@@1FORIMPERIUM 🤣🤣🤣 Maybe you will too one day. Gotta say I had a hard time justifying the cost but coming from the Logitech G920 to the Clubsport V2.5 has been worth it. Didn't make me quick but you get more feedback.
@@untrainedprofessionals2374 yea I mean if anything I will be probably looking to get thrustmaster first
@@1FORIMPERIUM That's what I was going to do but got lucky. Missus backed it so ran with it. Gotta take what you can when you can.😁👍 Still getting over the bloody cost.
do u still recommend McLaren if going to be mostly used as f1 racing
What about the vibrations of the wheel? Isn't it important for immersion ?
It probably wont be ideal but how would they feel for rally?
Simmakerz have a mod "the Magnetic SimShifterZ Hybrid McLaren GT3 Evo" for the shifters on the CSL Elite McLaren GT3 V2, it will fix your problem and make the perfect wheel for you. The catch is its 110€ with shipping...
What do you mean by fatigue in the hands? it's only been a couple of laps. Perhaps you are squeezing the grips too hard?
I have the Formula V2 and also would have liked it even more if it was about 1/2"- 1" larger in diameter. Everything else is pretty good!
Do u still stand by this with the v2.5 can’t decide?
good video and i agree with you on the most parts.
but.... how can you find the shifters on the Formula V2 better? They're springloaded metalplates with no actual feedback telling you when the shift is done. and they're so light i happened to press them without noticing more then once. They just invite you to misshift xD
still great review!
I have the Formula Carbon and the shifters are the worst thing on older Fanatec wheels. I can't get it how he can find the old springy shifters better as the more taktile magnetic ones. Even on the CSL WRC wheel the shifters feels way better as the old Fanatec Formula shifters :D
Nice, I literally just ordered the more expensive one a couple days ago
Wich one is better for f1 games ?
I like the diablo music in the backround. 24:25
Is that the Diablo 2 soundtrack during the Formula V2 conclusion?
FDunny to hear diablo soundtrack at the bacground! Nice touch
Hi! Very useful video but I'm not sure about one thing, do I need to buy a quick release for the mclaren gt3 or is it just optional?
If you're using it on the Podium series bases with High Torque mode engaged, you'll want the metal QR. If you're using it on a CSL DD or GT DD Pro, you'll be fine with the standard plastic QR. However, you will gain a bit of rigidity from going to the metal in any case.
@@Ermz Thanks!
Now please compare the McLaren to the podium Porsche GT3?
The Fanatec Clubsport v2.5 is a f1 wheel, not a mclaren wheel
Pff i am still in big doubtbwitch to choose. How much better is the force feedback om the v2? Thats for me the only reason to choose the v3 over the mclaren
I have purchased this Mclaren V2 wheel like the layout etc, but the rattling from the buttons are just a non starter for me. Reverted back to my old wheel which does not rattle like this. I have emailed Fanatec with video and they say this is normal. Not sure if I can purchase another wheel just don't want the rattle
Why have the wheel in the small window? Im not interested in big screen gameplay for a hardware guide
Hé..nice vid! Hope people still wondering around here 😋 I have my eye on the mclaren wheel for quite some time and i’m wondering if you can put buttoncaps over the standard buttons? Like over the four colerd xbox buttons.
Thanks in advance. And i do agree you’re saying about the v2 wheels. I had 4 of them and i’m about to sell a third just because of the size. There so small. Just saying..ltrrr