I'm going to clarify some things since people keep expressing confusion over it: 1. To unlock third semester in Persona 5 Royal, the ONLY requirement is to max out Maruki's confidant (get it to rank 9 by November 17th). These two post-credits scenes are unlocked only if you beat third semester. If you don't play through third semester, you get vanilla Persona 5's ending, which plays out differently. 2. To get the alternate version of the post-credits scene where Akechi walks by the train (right), the ONLY requirement in addition to beating third semester is to max out Akechi's confidant (get it to rank 8 prior to November 20). Whether or not you unlock this scene is NEITHER dependent on whether you choose to accept the glove in rank 8 NOR whether you choose to keep your promise with Akechi. 3. If you do choose to a) accept Akechi's glove and b) resolve to commit to your promise with him on the evening after the engine room scene, you unlock the version of February 2nd where Akechi shows up. In this version, if you choose the true ending option, you get Akechi's third Persona awakening (see th-cam.com/video/7HQyJSpalkk/w-d-xo.html ). 4. (EDIT) As to what the differences in this cutscene implies... Only you can decide whether this implies Akechi truly is alive or not, or whether he's merely a figment of Joker's cognition. According to the developers, this is left ambiguous on purpose. Up to the player's *wishes*, if you will. Personally, I'd like to believe he's alive. (imo you should always strive to max out Akechi and commit to your promise; the version of February 2nd without Akechi feels so anticlimactic and much less impactful)
I just realized what this symbolizes at 0:25 Joker realizes he's still hiding part of himself and so he decides to truly show who he is, taking off the glasses he wore to make himself less intimidating, and be himself.
The glasses were to make himself more conspicuous and blend in with the background. He wore those to seem like a regular person and not attention grabbing.
People don't give the writing of p5 enough credit. Sure 3 is a more concise story with a more powerful and universal message, but 5 is incredibly unique and has its moments of genius. It also gives most side characters the proper screen time to flesh them out
@@Globbaglobglob I don't think this is the right comment section to say that but totally agree! P3 story is definitely more creative with a universal message of death, however it's wayyyy simpler and less content and stuff to do. Social links are kinda simple in comparison too. Hearing people say that persona 5 isn't that good makes me feel sad. Especially if they're taking about P5R, I mean ATLUS completely rewamped the game.
@@dylendye7410 I typed that cause the commenter said that the glasses made him intimidating, like what do you mean bro? I also heard that that was the reason he wore the glasses.
to anyone wondering: you only need maruki's confidant maxed to get thirdsem. maxing akechi and sumi's does give some cool extras though (like this scene and sumi's showtime) also, to get akechi's third persona, you also have to pick specific dialogue options in his rank 7 and 8 ("we're rivals" and "i accept") then on the night after the showdown with him in shido's palace, choose "i want to keep our promise". this unlocks his third awakening (and the impactful scene that comes with it)
I always picked those options and did not realize how important those were. Guess it pays to stay in character. Also, I’m kinda confused on how you don’t need to max out Kasumi. Because the first 5 events happen while she’s Kasumi, so what happens if you get to the third semester when she’s revealed to be Sumire before you even get those rank ups?
Wait what I thought akechi always walked passed the window either way I guess you do learn something new every day. ( I’m stupid I never realized it was edited my bad this is a edit btw. )
I literally screamed when this happened. I knew they wouldn't kill him! If you go to the jazz club at the end, joker finds akechis glove in his pocket and says "my fight with Akechi isn't over yet."
Maruki is the only requirement. Maxing out Akechi merely adds this, and Sumi merely stuff like Grapple. Yes… you can skip till Third Semester and not have Sumi Rank 5, it gives it to you for free without the skills if you do. Lots of strange things like that in Royal for some reason…
A scrapped event from P5R actually “confirms” that Akechi is alive. Its canonicity is debatable since, as previously mentioned, the event was scrapped but it does give a glimpse into what the devs were thinking.
I do love the other persona endings, but this one just has an awesome excitement for the future plus I feel it was deserve since u the player did it. It gave me of the same energy as P4 prologue It’s such a cool set up. Never thought akechi was ever dead in og because he literally got killed offscreen but showing joker getting shot in the head is fine 🫠so I always thought he was alive but the way the developers did it in Royal made me excited for his return if he ever returns because since Atlas is not confirming anything, it leaves the fanbase to come up with there own theories and think that’s neet 😊
I just want SOME kind of reunion with Joker and Akechi. Hopefully not in an Arena fighting game though. But this end just leaves so many loose ends with Akechi’s character… Those two guys, when darkening the image, look like the ones that tortured Joker in the opening of the game. And Akechi himself looks resigned/miserable. Does he have something up his sleeve or is he in trouble? We might never know :(
I too would kill to see Joker and Akechi reunite in any way. although in my opinion I think if this were to happen, an Arena fighting game WOULD kind of be an appropriate place to do it. they still need to have their rematch, after all
Crazy how the game tricks you with this scene. Like if the developers confirmed it’s up to the player to decide if Akechi lives or not, that means it really IS up to how you wish it to be. So in a way, I wish Akechi was still alive, but if he is, Maruki wins in some capacity because that’s what would make me happy even if it might not be “realistic” (not to mention that I think fake out deaths take away from the stakes of any story and P5 has more than enough already)
would u still get this version if u have rank 10 wit akechi BUT he doesn't join us in the last.... calling card negotiation? in my second playthrough i was so pissed he wasn't in that scene and idk where i went wrong 😭
I'm not sure but maybe the day in your playthrough that Akechi was shot by cognitive Akechi, when Joker was lying in bed and thinking you are given two options right? 'I want to keep my promise' is the correct option to pick if you want his third awakening. Also somewhere else you're supposed to pick an option I think.
I'm pretty sure you need to pick some spesific dialogue choices during his rank 7,8 and when joker is thinking about akechi after his "death" in order to unlock both that scene and his third awakening
If youre talking about the calling card for Shido, he doesn't join in due to the battle with cognitive Akechi. However, you still have the third semester if you havent tried that, which is gained through maxing Maruki's confidant by a certain timeframe.
pretty sure that maxing Akechi's confidant is the ONLY requirement for getting the alternate post-credits scene. I actually have a friend who didn't get the version of February 2nd with Akechi, but since he had maxed Akechi's confidant, he did get this post-credits scene
in the cutting room, it was implied he was still alive and was just simply hiding in a place called Kakekomidera in the real world which is the same place he and his mother used to hide. Which is pretty much a modern day refuge temples. unfortunately this is cut content so we really don't know if this actually happened at all.
All of these are possibilities. We have no true answer. It could be a small moment of Ren wishing Akechi was still alive, which is a plausible train of thought because you need his confidant maxed out. It could also be that Akechi is actually alive. Scrapped content for the cutscene where everyone tries to get Joker out of jail shows Akechi saying something in a rehab centre, and it's been implied he just went into hiding and faked his death, which would not interfere with his existence in Maruki's reality. I personally doubt Maruki's reality still stands, seeing as Maruki's persona, which at that point is the equivalent to the Holy Grail, is defeated, and Maruki's mind is changed about his attempt to devoid the world of suffering by enforcing stasis, but it's not unthinkable his persona recovered (as the Phantom Thieves' can) and he went behind Joker's back. He is a psychologist, after all, he would know how to manipulate if he's that convinced of his good intentions.
@@pedromar8598 As far as I'm aware, maxing out Sumire does not affect the (2D) animated ending cutscenes. But I noticed that maxing out her Confidant DOES affect her model and talk sprites during in-game cutscenes. If you don't max Sumire, her hair will remain down during the February cutscenes. But if you max her out, she ties her hair back up (in honor of Kasumi), which will show in the February cutscenes.
Honestly i don't care about persona 6 what i want is a game like personaQ but the only team you can use is Makoto, Ren and Yu in the mission to save their own respective teams together
mainly that Akechi passes by the train window in the right clip, but not in the left one. The clip to the right is also longer in length compared to the one on the left, (the left clip is paused for a longer period of time) because Joker takes more time to look out the window of the train station in search of what he saw, while Joker in the left clip doesn't really do anything but stare ahead for a few seconds. They're practically almost the same otherwise. because both of these are so short the differences are kinda easy to miss if you blink
that would be Maruki. To get the true ending for persona 5 royal, you need to get Maruki's (Councelor) Confidant to Rank 9 by November 17th. It will max on the 18th automatically. After beating the original boss for persona 5, you will unlock the third semester.
Akechi was never confirmed dead. Futaba just couldn't sense him after the two gunshots. It was inevitable that he was going to survive the encounter. You have to remember something core to this premise. You don't have a set place you have to be at to escape the Palace. Akechi could bail out on the ship. He would just wind up somewhere else.
That would make no sense. Why tie characters that have nothing to do with it to maxing a specific Confidant? If they wanted to tease 5x they didn't need to tie it to Akechi's Confidant.
@@stevenhiggins3055 in the mobile game they’re in the same place as evidence shows. We also see joker in the P5 X game As well as the other phantom thieves
@@Zorai99 And? If they wanted to tease that they wouldn't have locked it behind Akechi. What does Wonder have to do with him? Nothing. It makes no sense for him to be locked behind maxing Akechi. Going to the same school is not enough.
If they made an OAV continuation of the P 5 Royal anime, I would change two things at the end In one we understand that Akechi may have survived, one of the unsolved mysteries, but in both cases that there will still be a need for Joker and the Phantom Thief
I hope he’s not alive in reality. It ruins his story. I liked what Royal did with him and it wasn’t just a cheap way to bring him back. That being said I think this ending may more so be hinting that the metaverse is still around?
@@musthasnie This ending is better than the “friend going by train we cry ending part 6776 made since 1794 books” everyone has seen an ending like that i’d rather my game not have a generic ending lol p4 fans always trying to be so loud when their game is the worst
@@musthasnie You mean the ending where the self-insert (yes Marie is a self-insert) goes "I love you" and then his friends freak out and thats it? If you're going to pick an ending that at least tries to show your viewpoint, don't pick the weakest one out of all the games.
I'm going to clarify some things since people keep expressing confusion over it:
1. To unlock third semester in Persona 5 Royal, the ONLY requirement is to max out Maruki's confidant (get it to rank 9 by November 17th). These two post-credits scenes are unlocked only if you beat third semester. If you don't play through third semester, you get vanilla Persona 5's ending, which plays out differently.
2. To get the alternate version of the post-credits scene where Akechi walks by the train (right), the ONLY requirement in addition to beating third semester is to max out Akechi's confidant (get it to rank 8 prior to November 20). Whether or not you unlock this scene is NEITHER dependent on whether you choose to accept the glove in rank 8 NOR whether you choose to keep your promise with Akechi.
3. If you do choose to a) accept Akechi's glove and b) resolve to commit to your promise with him on the evening after the engine room scene, you unlock the version of February 2nd where Akechi shows up. In this version, if you choose the true ending option, you get Akechi's third Persona awakening (see th-cam.com/video/7HQyJSpalkk/w-d-xo.html ).
4. (EDIT) As to what the differences in this cutscene implies... Only you can decide whether this implies Akechi truly is alive or not, or whether he's merely a figment of Joker's cognition. According to the developers, this is left ambiguous on purpose. Up to the player's *wishes*, if you will. Personally, I'd like to believe he's alive.
(imo you should always strive to max out Akechi and commit to your promise; the version of February 2nd without Akechi feels so anticlimactic and much less impactful)
I just realized what this symbolizes at 0:25
Joker realizes he's still hiding part of himself and so he decides to truly show who he is, taking off the glasses he wore to make himself less intimidating, and be himself.
The glasses were to make himself more conspicuous and blend in with the background. He wore those to seem like a regular person and not attention grabbing.
@@nuetralkitty58 That's why, he doesn't need the glasses just wear them to look 'normal' is not being himself
People don't give the writing of p5 enough credit. Sure 3 is a more concise story with a more powerful and universal message, but 5 is incredibly unique and has its moments of genius. It also gives most side characters the proper screen time to flesh them out
@@Globbaglobglob I don't think this is the right comment section to say that but totally agree! P3 story is definitely more creative with a universal message of death, however it's wayyyy simpler and less content and stuff to do. Social links are kinda simple in comparison too. Hearing people say that persona 5 isn't that good makes me feel sad. Especially if they're taking about P5R, I mean ATLUS completely rewamped the game.
@@dylendye7410 I typed that cause the commenter said that the glasses made him intimidating, like what do you mean bro? I also heard that that was the reason he wore the glasses.
to anyone wondering:
you only need maruki's confidant maxed to get thirdsem. maxing akechi and sumi's does give some cool extras though (like this scene and sumi's showtime)
also, to get akechi's third persona, you also have to pick specific dialogue options in his rank 7 and 8 ("we're rivals" and "i accept") then on the night after the showdown with him in shido's palace, choose "i want to keep our promise". this unlocks his third awakening (and the impactful scene that comes with it)
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So I chose the right options without me even knowing glad I always go with my gut
@@hasshenjo6416same
I always picked those options and did not realize how important those were. Guess it pays to stay in character.
Also, I’m kinda confused on how you don’t need to max out Kasumi. Because the first 5 events happen while she’s Kasumi, so what happens if you get to the third semester when she’s revealed to be Sumire before you even get those rank ups?
@Wakamw75 then you get locked out of finishing her confidant
Wait what I thought akechi always walked passed the window either way I guess you do learn something new every day. ( I’m stupid I never realized it was edited my bad this is a edit btw. )
Of course he does. You can't get this ending without getting Akechi to rank 10.
His social link it's actually optional, it's not obligatory @@kellyjohana516
@@kellyjohana516You can. To get this ending you olny need to have Maruki at rank 10
Why is drake in ur pfp? 🔥
Persona fans romancing minor be like @@mugetsu...
I literally screamed when this happened. I knew they wouldn't kill him! If you go to the jazz club at the end, joker finds akechis glove in his pocket and says "my fight with Akechi isn't over yet."
Didn’t even know you could get third semester without maxing out Akechi
Maruki is the only requirement. Maxing out Akechi merely adds this, and Sumi merely stuff like Grapple. Yes… you can skip till Third Semester and not have Sumi Rank 5, it gives it to you for free without the skills if you do. Lots of strange things like that in Royal for some reason…
Im still waiting for the reveal that akechi is alive
No thanks.
A scrapped event from P5R actually “confirms” that Akechi is alive. Its canonicity is debatable since, as previously mentioned, the event was scrapped but it does give a glimpse into what the devs were thinking.
I kinda think he is
Nah, keep him ambiguous.
@@cardboardtubeknight Nah we need that
This game is so large. I have seen walkthrough, but there are so many alternative scenes and cut scenes.
He's alive (I have terminal shuake brainrot)
(Same bestie)
real
me too
He appears in persona 5 tactica dlc
@@wolfzero2134 yeah but the dlc takes place around the time sae’s palace would
Xander Mobus did an amazing job for Joker's grunts and gasp in P5/R
Im glad i got Akechi rank 10 the first time
I don't even know about this ending scene at all? Didn't they drive out on a van?
that was the vanilla p5 ending pretty sure
^ what @@ScarIetLeaves said, that one was the P5 vanilla ending; P5R's ending is different if you complete the third semester
You have to do maruki’s confidant
@@ALTCODE255 Yooo then im starting ng+ as soon as my lazy ass can
Make sure to max out kasumi maruki and akechi
I do love the other persona endings, but this one just has an awesome excitement for the future plus I feel it was deserve since u the player did it. It gave me of the same energy as P4 prologue It’s such a cool set up. Never thought akechi was ever dead in og because he literally got killed offscreen but showing joker getting shot in the head is fine 🫠so I always thought he was alive but the way the developers did it in
Royal made me excited for his return if he ever returns because since Atlas is not confirming anything, it leaves the fanbase to come up with there own theories and think that’s neet 😊
i freaking love this game and the details in it
I just want SOME kind of reunion with Joker and Akechi. Hopefully not in an Arena fighting game though. But this end just leaves so many loose ends with Akechi’s character…
Those two guys, when darkening the image, look like the ones that tortured Joker in the opening of the game. And Akechi himself looks resigned/miserable.
Does he have something up his sleeve or is he in trouble? We might never know :(
I too would kill to see Joker and Akechi reunite in any way. although in my opinion I think if this were to happen, an Arena fighting game WOULD kind of be an appropriate place to do it. they still need to have their rematch, after all
Crazy how the game tricks you with this scene. Like if the developers confirmed it’s up to the player to decide if Akechi lives or not, that means it really IS up to how you wish it to be.
So in a way, I wish Akechi was still alive, but if he is, Maruki wins in some capacity because that’s what would make me happy even if it might not be “realistic” (not to mention that I think fake out deaths take away from the stakes of any story and P5 has more than enough already)
This would infer that akechi is alive if we max his rank, because hes very visibly walking by the Train window
Still waiting for P5 Arena
i dint know this :O
So basically if you max out Akechi you get the bonus schizophrenia dlc 🤘🤘?? Yippee!!
would u still get this version if u have rank 10 wit akechi BUT he doesn't join us in the last.... calling card negotiation? in my second playthrough i was so pissed he wasn't in that scene and idk where i went wrong 😭
I'm not sure but maybe the day in your playthrough that Akechi was shot by cognitive Akechi, when Joker was lying in bed and thinking you are given two options right? 'I want to keep my promise' is the correct option to pick if you want his third awakening. Also somewhere else you're supposed to pick an option I think.
I'm pretty sure you need to pick some spesific dialogue choices during his rank 7,8 and when joker is thinking about akechi after his "death" in order to unlock both that scene and his third awakening
If youre talking about the calling card for Shido, he doesn't join in due to the battle with cognitive Akechi. However, you still have the third semester if you havent tried that, which is gained through maxing Maruki's confidant by a certain timeframe.
pretty sure that maxing Akechi's confidant is the ONLY requirement for getting the alternate post-credits scene. I actually have a friend who didn't get the version of February 2nd with Akechi, but since he had maxed Akechi's confidant, he did get this post-credits scene
hes headed to persona 6
What does that mean like Akechi is alive or what? 🤨
in the cutting room, it was implied he was still alive and was just simply hiding in a place called Kakekomidera in the real world which is the same place he and his mother used to hide. Which is pretty much a modern day refuge temples. unfortunately this is cut content so we really don't know if this actually happened at all.
HE WAS DEFD RIGHT HOW HE SHOW UP
So im confused here
Is it that akechi was alive
Or
Joker’s distorted reality remained?
Or
It’s just a imagination of joker
All of these are possibilities. We have no true answer.
It could be a small moment of Ren wishing Akechi was still alive, which is a plausible train of thought because you need his confidant maxed out.
It could also be that Akechi is actually alive. Scrapped content for the cutscene where everyone tries to get Joker out of jail shows Akechi saying something in a rehab centre, and it's been implied he just went into hiding and faked his death, which would not interfere with his existence in Maruki's reality.
I personally doubt Maruki's reality still stands, seeing as Maruki's persona, which at that point is the equivalent to the Holy Grail, is defeated, and Maruki's mind is changed about his attempt to devoid the world of suffering by enforcing stasis, but it's not unthinkable his persona recovered (as the Phantom Thieves' can) and he went behind Joker's back. He is a psychologist, after all, he would know how to manipulate if he's that convinced of his good intentions.
Does sumire change in the end too if u dont have the confidant max out?
@@pedromar8598 As far as I'm aware, maxing out Sumire does not affect the (2D) animated ending cutscenes. But I noticed that maxing out her Confidant DOES affect her model and talk sprites during in-game cutscenes. If you don't max Sumire, her hair will remain down during the February cutscenes. But if you max her out, she ties her hair back up (in honor of Kasumi), which will show in the February cutscenes.
@@ALTCODE255 I see, thanks for the information!
Honestly i don't care about persona 6 what i want is a game like personaQ but the only team you can use is Makoto, Ren and Yu in the mission to save their own respective teams together
yes
wait what’s the difference between these two clip😂it’s hard to tell them apart
mainly that Akechi passes by the train window in the right clip, but not in the left one. The clip to the right is also longer in length compared to the one on the left, (the left clip is paused for a longer period of time) because Joker takes more time to look out the window of the train station in search of what he saw, while Joker in the left clip doesn't really do anything but stare ahead for a few seconds. They're practically almost the same otherwise. because both of these are so short the differences are kinda easy to miss if you blink
ain't akechi confidant important for the true ending in p5R?
that would be Maruki. To get the true ending for persona 5 royal, you need to get Maruki's (Councelor) Confidant to Rank 9 by November 17th. It will max on the 18th automatically. After beating the original boss for persona 5, you will unlock the third semester.
But he still very much dead, right? The boat palace scene is canon, right? So....how?🤔
Akechi was never confirmed dead. Futaba just couldn't sense him after the two gunshots. It was inevitable that he was going to survive the encounter. You have to remember something core to this premise. You don't have a set place you have to be at to escape the Palace. Akechi could bail out on the ship. He would just wind up somewhere else.
I'm guessing that was the persona 5X I'm guessing that was the persona 5X crew
That would make no sense. Why tie characters that have nothing to do with it to maxing a specific Confidant? If they wanted to tease 5x they didn't need to tie it to Akechi's Confidant.
@@stevenhiggins3055 in the mobile game they’re in the same place as evidence shows. We also see joker in the P5 X game As well as the other phantom thieves
We also see the main character of P5 X wearing the same coat as the cut scene just played
@@Zorai99 And? If they wanted to tease that they wouldn't have locked it behind Akechi. What does Wonder have to do with him? Nothing. It makes no sense for him to be locked behind maxing Akechi. Going to the same school is not enough.
Youre lying. im gonna sob
Wait so Akechi is still alive? That's kinda disappointing
If they made an OAV continuation of the P 5 Royal anime, I would change two things at the end
In one we understand that Akechi may have survived, one of the unsolved mysteries, but in both cases that there will still be a need for Joker and the Phantom Thief
I hope he’s not alive in reality. It ruins his story. I liked what Royal did with him and it wasn’t just a cheap way to bring him back. That being said I think this ending may more so be hinting that the metaverse is still around?
I don't play Persona 5 so I don't know why it need 2 endings
Well that was pointless
a fuckin terrible ending.
Mr negativity yap yap yapping away
@@chillswany haha not realized yet? try to play persona 4 golden to see the difference between the best ending and the terrible one.
@@musthasnie This ending is better than the “friend going by train we cry ending part 6776 made since 1794 books” everyone has seen an ending like that i’d rather my game not have a generic ending lol p4 fans always trying to be so loud when their game is the worst
@@musthasnie You mean the ending where the self-insert (yes Marie is a self-insert) goes "I love you" and then his friends freak out and thats it?
If you're going to pick an ending that at least tries to show your viewpoint, don't pick the weakest one out of all the games.
@@chillswanyI will never understand why persona 4 is loved so much in thewest when it’s definitely the most hated here