When I enable expo it crashes. On R23 I get around 35,000 at 89 degrees. The precision boost at 80 degrees does help speed things up a little whilst keeping the system much cooler. On Cinebench R23 stress test, I still cant get a boost higher than 4.7 with an average of 4.4 though.
Guys, what is your experience with x670e motherboards these days? I'm having difficulty choosing a motherboard for my build, there are many negative reports about AM5 boards, can you help me choose a board that doesn't give me a headache? Thank you all for your help....
I've been looking at motherboards all week and literary read thousands of comments on Reddit and compared most of the motherboards with each other. Apparently it doesn't matter what you get, all boards have sufficient power to be able to run all CPUs from Amd on them. Most people recommend a b650 to save some money, but since it's the internet it's 50/50 if a board is good or bad. I bought the one in the video since most reviewers and people on Reddit and forums say it's good. I found it cheapest on Amazon atleast in my country ( Sweden ) You pay more for the audio chip number of USB ports and number of m.2 slots and PCIe 5.0 for your GPU but that shouldn't matter since no cards available can use that speed. I don't know how much this helps but buy what you can afford, all boards should suffice but like with everything else the higher the price the better performance.
Hello, I plan to buy the 7800X3D. I am not interested in overclocking and want to buy the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F version because it is significantly cheaper. Do you recommend buying this CPU for a more "inferior" version like the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F?
Nice tip, I did this a few days ago. One thing I would add on is play with the curve optimizer also... So I have it set to enhancement 80c and a negative 24 curve optimizer for all cores on a 7950x.
Be careful the enhanced settings already adds a negative 15 all core and an 50mhz offset max tubo by default, you can look this up by opening ryzen master. I don't think your 24 curve is actually applied.
Thank you so much for this video. The timing couldn't be better. I finished my AM5 build yesterday (7600x (temp CPU waiting for 3D variant) FE 4090, EXPO 32GB 6000 (CL36) built on a ROG STRIX X670E-E. I'm going to try these settings ASAP!!! Great mobo. I'm running 3 SSD's only, because the 3rd ssd slot (bottom left) steals lanes from the 1st pcie slot, cutting it from by x16 to by x8 mode.. That's the only flaw so far.
@@Sid-Cannon Totally, you're right... However, The 7600X will be sold the second I get a 7800x3d or whatever AMD announces at CES. I purchased the 7600x for $235 during Black Friday. It will be much easier to resell a 7600x, and take a minimal hit compared to a 7900x.
@@anddo24 Okay I get what you are saying and I guess that's where we differ. I would never do an expensive upgrade with the intention of selling the CPU within a year or two. Me personally, I would either go for Ryzen 9 in the first place, or wait for the X3D models.
Did everything as you recommended and got a blue screen, pbo enhancement, changing to expo 1 not touching anything extra, blue screen, had to reset bios Board is b 650 plus 7950x ryzen trident z 5 g skill
For the work my 7950X does, I found that I get roughly the same performance at stock settings and both Level 1 and 2 of the PBO Enhancement(my testing wasn't terribly scientific, so ymmv), with Level 3 showing a measurable but small performance drop. Level 2 lets me keep the fans running nice and quiet, I love it.
I have the same MB w/ 7900X running PBO enhancement at 90c and Curve Optimizer at -20 all core - Fantastic performance / CINEBENCH R23: Multi Core 29500 and 2020 Single Core. 32GB DDR5 EXPO II @ 6000MHz / 30CL.
Hey man I'm hoping for some advice here.. I have the x670E-E board which is very similar.. I have the g.skill trident z5 6000 cl36 kit its on the motherboard QVL I cannot get it past stock speed using expo or manually. the system does not boot at all. I can barely even get into the bios.. at stock speed i can change the timing and be completely stable. I can change the ram speed in ryzen master and it will actually boot and work but its unstable eventually crashes and when it does the system won't boot again... I have tried to enable expo one stick at a time with both individual sticks doing the same thing when I enable expo. by a stroke of luck I do have a 2nd motherboard on hand I was reluctant to crack it open to test but the more I see people having no trouble with expo the more I believe its the motherboard especially since both ram sticks by themselves give the same result. what do you think I should do?
Thanks for the great vid I just got the E version of this mobo would be interested in eco mode and how to set they up to tryout. I’m going for the 7950x no added gpu as I don’t game I do have one on my list if that was to change later down the road
The performance seemed negligible to me, the capping at 80'c is the only good part about it. What were the difference between Voltages and clock speeds?
Thanks, this was really helpful with my new build. You mentioned that the X670e-f scored a little lower than the Hero, is that with regards to single core? From the graphs it looks to be the opposite in terms of multi core unless I'm missing something
I was looking at this board as my next buy but then Gigabyte came out with 25100 M.2 sockets for pci-e5 ssd on their boards. umm what to do stick with pci-e gen 4 22mm ssd or look to the future.
On both my X670E and older B550 boards, there's an option to set the Platform Thermal Throttle Limit in degrees Celsius(it might have been on earlier chipsets too for all I know). For my 5950X I have PBO enabled with the PTT limit at 85(to just back off a bit from the normal limit of 90), and it keeps the cpu temps at around 82 under full load. I don't know if this new "PBO Enhancement" is just a simpler way of setting the PTT limit or if there are other optimizations involved, but I'm assuming the X570 also has the PTT limit setting available, you might want to experiment with it.
id still like to know how the cpu pcie lanes are setup between the gpu slot and m.2 slots as have multiple m.2 drives and dont wish to loose the x16 on the gpu slot.
From my very limited understanding, The Gen5 PCIex16 (GPU) and one of the Gen5 M.2 slots go to the CPU on separate bus (not shared) so you are not gimping the GPU. The other three M.2 go to the chipset. This is on the X670(e) boards but not sure on B650
You are reviewing this board but in black. Whyyyyy. There's a white version too with too few reviews 💀 ASUS made all white board for Z790 which is the best Intel board right now. But X670 white board is weak as freak.
When I enable expo it crashes. On R23 I get around 35,000 at 89 degrees. The precision boost at 80 degrees does help speed things up a little whilst keeping the system much cooler. On Cinebench R23 stress test, I still cant get a boost higher than 4.7 with an average of 4.4 though.
unfortunately 4x32 6000 MHz is not supported yet. The system gets stuck on post with the orange light on
even though the Creator ProArt uses a Tuf flavored BIOS, this feature is also present
Guys, what is your experience with x670e motherboards these days? I'm having difficulty choosing a motherboard for my build, there are many negative reports about AM5 boards, can you help me choose a board that doesn't give me a headache? Thank you all for your help....
I've been looking at motherboards all week and literary read thousands of comments on Reddit and compared most of the motherboards with each other.
Apparently it doesn't matter what you get, all boards have sufficient power to be able to run all CPUs from Amd on them.
Most people recommend a b650 to save some money, but since it's the internet it's 50/50 if a board is good or bad.
I bought the one in the video since most reviewers and people on Reddit and forums say it's good. I found it cheapest on Amazon atleast in my country ( Sweden )
You pay more for the audio chip number of USB ports and number of m.2 slots and PCIe 5.0 for your GPU but that shouldn't matter since no cards available can use that speed.
I don't know how much this helps but buy what you can afford, all boards should suffice but like with everything else the higher the price the better performance.
All that text all over it looks like a kids sketch book
Change your battery Guv! 🤣😂
Soory Tom, but I hate your charts......having to tilt my head is a no no
Hello,
I plan to buy the 7800X3D. I am not interested in overclocking and want to buy the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F version because it is significantly cheaper. Do you recommend buying this CPU for a more "inferior" version like the Asus ROG Strix B650E-F?
Some very good Performance Tips in this video, Tom! Thank you...🇺🇸 😎👍☕
Thanks Tom, I will try this tomorrow on my 7700x (strix X670E-E). Lol though I bought a 360 corsair AIO and that seems to be keeping it cool
Nice tip, I did this a few days ago. One thing I would add on is play with the curve optimizer also... So I have it set to enhancement 80c and a negative 24 curve optimizer for all cores on a 7950x.
Be careful the enhanced settings already adds a negative 15 all core and an 50mhz offset max tubo by default, you can look this up by opening ryzen master. I don't think your 24 curve is actually applied.
Its already on negative
Thank you so much for this video. The timing couldn't be better. I finished my AM5 build yesterday (7600x (temp CPU waiting for 3D variant) FE 4090, EXPO 32GB 6000 (CL36) built on a ROG STRIX X670E-E. I'm going to try these settings ASAP!!! Great mobo. I'm running 3 SSD's only, because the 3rd ssd slot (bottom left) steals lanes from the 1st pcie slot, cutting it from by x16 to by x8 mode.. That's the only flaw so far.
I don't get it, if you're spending that much then why not just spend an extra couple of hundred quid or so for a Ryzen 9 ?
@@Sid-Cannon Totally, you're right... However, The 7600X will be sold the second I get a 7800x3d or whatever AMD announces at CES. I purchased the 7600x for $235 during Black Friday. It will be much easier to resell a 7600x, and take a minimal hit compared to a 7900x.
@@anddo24 Okay I get what you are saying and I guess that's where we differ. I would never do an expensive upgrade with the intention of selling the CPU within a year or two. Me personally, I would either go for Ryzen 9 in the first place, or wait for the X3D models.
I'm doing the exact same thing...don't undercut me when selling it :p
@@Sid-Cannon I agree. I was going to wait. But then Black Friday had some insane deals.. Before I knew it my AM5 build was purchased.
Is your idle temperature suppose to decrease? Did all that and the idle temperature remains the same.
Really appreciate this video because I'm planning a build with a 7950x. Thanks Tom. Time for some fresh batteries for that remote!
how to fix problems with Intel i225v3 ethernet adapter? I can't sleep well anymore due to problems with LAN 😞
Nice outro lol!
Thank You!
Did everything as you recommended and got a blue screen, pbo enhancement, changing to expo 1 not touching anything extra, blue screen, had to reset bios
Board is b 650 plus
7950x ryzen
trident z 5 g skill
For the work my 7950X does, I found that I get roughly the same performance at stock settings and both Level 1 and 2 of the PBO Enhancement(my testing wasn't terribly scientific, so ymmv), with Level 3 showing a measurable but small performance drop. Level 2 lets me keep the fans running nice and quiet, I love it.
I have the same MB w/ 7900X running PBO enhancement at 90c and Curve Optimizer at -20 all core - Fantastic performance / CINEBENCH R23: Multi Core 29500 and 2020 Single Core. 32GB DDR5 EXPO II @ 6000MHz / 30CL.
Hey man I'm hoping for some advice here.. I have the x670E-E board which is very similar.. I have the g.skill trident z5 6000 cl36 kit its on the motherboard QVL I cannot get it past stock speed using expo or manually. the system does not boot at all. I can barely even get into the bios.. at stock speed i can change the timing and be completely stable. I can change the ram speed in ryzen master and it will actually boot and work but its unstable eventually crashes and when it does the system won't boot again... I have tried to enable expo one stick at a time with both individual sticks doing the same thing when I enable expo. by a stroke of luck I do have a 2nd motherboard on hand I was reluctant to crack it open to test but the more I see people having no trouble with expo the more I believe its the motherboard especially since both ram sticks by themselves give the same result. what do you think I should do?
Thanks for the great vid I just got the E version of this mobo would be interested in eco mode and how to set they up to tryout. I’m going for the 7950x no added gpu as I don’t game I do have one on my list if that was to change later down the road
Thanks for the RAM speed setting thing to run at the rated speed
Youre very welcome dude :)
The performance seemed negligible to me, the capping at 80'c is the only good part about it. What were the difference between Voltages and clock speeds?
Thanks, this was really helpful with my new build. You mentioned that the X670e-f scored a little lower than the Hero, is that with regards to single core? From the graphs it looks to be the opposite in terms of multi core unless I'm missing something
This is the board I ordered yesterday for the upcoming 7900x3D. Nice to see it covered here as I did my own research before finding this video.
I was looking at this board as my next buy but then Gigabyte came out with 25100 M.2 sockets for pci-e5 ssd on their boards. umm what to do stick with pci-e gen 4 22mm ssd or look to the future.
What would be the advantage over the M.2 Gen 5 socket on this board?
The end is hilarious 😂😂😂
Tom, do you know if they are bringing this update to the X570 F boards as I'm sure this would benefit 5000 series chips as well...
AFAIK atm its just the X670
On both my X670E and older B550 boards, there's an option to set the Platform Thermal Throttle Limit in degrees Celsius(it might have been on earlier chipsets too for all I know). For my 5950X I have PBO enabled with the PTT limit at 85(to just back off a bit from the normal limit of 90), and it keeps the cpu temps at around 82 under full load. I don't know if this new "PBO Enhancement" is just a simpler way of setting the PTT limit or if there are other optimizations involved, but I'm assuming the X570 also has the PTT limit setting available, you might want to experiment with it.
id still like to know how the cpu pcie lanes are setup between the gpu slot and m.2 slots as have multiple m.2 drives and dont wish to loose the x16 on the gpu slot.
From my very limited understanding, The Gen5 PCIex16 (GPU) and one of the Gen5 M.2 slots go to the CPU on separate bus (not shared) so you are not gimping the GPU. The other three M.2 go to the chipset. This is on the X670(e) boards but not sure on B650
Correcting, the two m.2 5.0 goes to the CPU, the other two to the chipset
Anyone know if this motherboard is compatible with ICUE?
My x670e tuf is, mess around with lights and stuff
what about undervolting results with out the temperature cap? should produce higher clocks that way, curious to see the gains
This setting seems to get me about same result as an -20 pbo undervolt but with lower temps.
You are reviewing this board but in black. Whyyyyy. There's a white version too with too few reviews 💀
ASUS made all white board for Z790 which is the best Intel board right now. But X670 white board is weak as freak.
because thats what I got sent........
@@OC3D ask ASUS for the white one ☺️
The white Strix-A has an inferior VRM, not sure why Asus did that !
@@rare6499 true. Literally dumb shit. People making white builds are spending way more. Can't they put 100$ more to buy better specs? Lmao