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Honestly, sold my deck and am using the ally on turbo for about 2 hours at a time. I have a clip for the deck that I use on the ally now, and a power bank attached to the back of it. Doesn’t feel that much heavier. Usually, I only have about 2-3 hours of free time throughout my day to game anyways, so it’s a perfect machine for me. Been playing gears 4, control, Diablo 4 using 1080p settings and it’s just too amazing to takes my eyes off of the screen. There’s no way I can go back to the steam deck. And if I can’t get games to run at 1080p, I just put it on 720p and use the RSR option to upscale it to 1080p and it still looks better than my deck. For me, it’s been well worth the upgrade. I enjoy just playing from my bed for the most part.
So really, it's the much better screen + better image quality experience the Ally gives that makes it worth the $200-300 leap? Having seen an OLED Switch myself, I can imagine the Ally's screen being a beauty to game on. It's great that it works for you and that you're comfortable using a power bank and mainting it (aka charging it regularly), but I'm still on the fence as I cannot afford its price and the gains are too substantial, especially when it comes to battery life (without carrying a power bank), but I'll keep an eye out for price drops and updates to the Ally :)
@@zainmushtaq4347 it's so much better , i just need to hook up a powerbank lol to even get a good time. this is why i think the steam deck is better if you do handheld mode much way better battery life at almost the same performance as higher wattages also trackpads ...
can cyberpunk 2077 run on 5-7 watts with low settings? will the battery last atleast 3 hours with that settings? if possible can you make a video about it, thank you 🙏🏼
It's just more optimized for lower watts then the ally could be, I'm surprised the deck was holding its own with the ally at 15w, kinda funny really, makes me positive the steam deck is amazing, and valve customer support is unmatched.
Steam decks custom processor is intentionally designed to be very efficient kinda like how apple ipads can do heavy workloada without fans thanks to efficient design. and the SD sweet spot performance seems to be around 10watts from what I've tested with my oled one. At 15w often times you just get a couple extra frames but no major jumps.
How do you upscale the Ally’ screen to 1080p? I found it working on some games and in others like cyberpunk I’m not sure if it’s working. I can clearly see the difference between 1080 and 720 (rsr) even though many says you can’t at all. That must mean that it doesn’t work properly at those games.
The proper way to know if upscaling is on is to make sure that the in game resolution is 720p, then you open the Ally's Command Center and the screen should be set to 1080p, besides enabling RSR make sure that you also have RIS enabled (it's what actually makes the quality seem like real 1080p).
@@benchmarkbros Maybe I am dumb but e.g. in Cyberpunk 2077 don't you just put the resolution to 1080p and then enable FSR? I mean if you are just going to play, not for benchmark purposes. I hope my comment makes sense. I just got my Ally this weekend, so if I may I'd like to ask another question. Is it better to just set frame cap, resolution, etc. inside each game, or would you use armory crate for it? So far I have just adjusted the settings inside the game (e.g. in Baldur's gate 3) and then set the TDP through armory crate. I have to say I was completly caught of guard at how good the game can look on the ally while having a really good fps. I capped my fps at 40 but I am sure you could get even more without making the game uglier.
@@TheRubsi During my tests I found that setting the resolution to 720p and then enabling RIS provides better image quality and performance than using 1080p with FSR 2. Especially if you're going to be using very aggressive FSR 2 presets like performance which introduces a lot of artifacts. I usually set the TDP manually to 15W and use a custom fan curve, I never set a frame cap since it's hard for the Ally to max out the screen. One thing, make sure your screen is set to 120Hz, otherwise, VRR doesn't kick in.
@@das2003 Around 10-20% more performance seems to be the general consensus. But I think I'll just wait for the next bios. I don't think that Asus released bios 319 just to screw up the performance of the Ally, so there has to be something more to it.
@@benchmarkbros Version 319 it seems improves the 1% low better than 317. Some games will hit a performance loss with 319 unless you set in the bios the vram to auto instead of 4 Gb. You need to set it to "auto" 319 to see if performance improve. Auto you should get the same average fps as 317 but with a lot higher 1% .. thus it seems Asus is trying to get more balance frame rate without the lows 1%. Some reason the vram set to 4 gb (default) can cause worst performance in 319 than with 317 with some games. (someone figured this out knowing on the Deck if you set the Vram from 1Gb to 4Gb RDR 2 ran worst )
In this video I'm using the Z1 Extreme ROG Ally, the video is from when it was released though so now the performance should be much better. Maybe I should make a video with the latest BIOS and drivers
It's pretty much the results I'm getting with every game I'm testing. I'm working on testing Elden Ring and it's pretty much the same situation. Steam Deck and Ally tied at 15w, with the Ally getting an occasional slight lead, but the Steam Deck is working better at 10W and the 25-30W mode of the Ally destroys the Deck (but it uses much more power so it makes sense). The Ally's screen kind of makes up for it, but for my day-to-day gaming I'm still using the Deck just because of the better battery life on AAA games (using 9-10w mode).
Who handled Cyberpunk 2077 better - Valve's Steam Deck or the Asus ROG Ally? Share your thoughts in the comments below!
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the Ally just struggles at low wattages. that's why with the Ally X they doubled the battery size and increased the "silent mode" tdp from 10w to 13w.
Honestly, sold my deck and am using the ally on turbo for about 2 hours at a time. I have a clip for the deck that I use on the ally now, and a power bank attached to the back of it. Doesn’t feel that much heavier. Usually, I only have about 2-3 hours of free time throughout my day to game anyways, so it’s a perfect machine for me. Been playing gears 4, control, Diablo 4 using 1080p settings and it’s just too amazing to takes my eyes off of the screen. There’s no way I can go back to the steam deck. And if I can’t get games to run at 1080p, I just put it on 720p and use the RSR option to upscale it to 1080p and it still looks better than my deck. For me, it’s been well worth the upgrade. I enjoy just playing from my bed for the most part.
Would you not play everything at 720p and use RSR?
Should save on battery a bit.
So really, it's the much better screen + better image quality experience the Ally gives that makes it worth the $200-300 leap?
Having seen an OLED Switch myself, I can imagine the Ally's screen being a beauty to game on. It's great that it works for you and that you're comfortable using a power bank and mainting it (aka charging it regularly), but I'm still on the fence as I cannot afford its price and the gains are too substantial, especially when it comes to battery life (without carrying a power bank), but I'll keep an eye out for price drops and updates to the Ally :)
@@zainmushtaq4347 it's so much better , i just need to hook up a powerbank lol to even get a good time.
this is why i think the steam deck is better if you do handheld mode much way better battery life at almost the same performance as higher wattages also trackpads ...
It’s all about optimization. Steam deck all the way ✅
can cyberpunk 2077 run on 5-7 watts with low settings? will the battery last atleast 3 hours with that settings? if possible can you make a video about it, thank you 🙏🏼
what benchmark app did you use on Ally for the battery meter?
Steam deck is just amazing
I can agree on that.
But Rog Ally is better.
@@androntoropov1099 better at breaking :D
@@eplugplay8409 nuh uh
@@eplugplay8409it's better though. Better at killing it's own SD card 😂
What is best settings for Cyberpunk on Ally
I think the medium preset at 15W has the best balance between performance and looks.
@@benchmarkbros ok thanks will give that a try. Did you engage FSR 2.1 and if you did what setting did you go with
@@Patrick-tw7nr The medium preset uses FSR Auto by default, I didn't touch the FSR settings.
How does Steam Deck do this with 10 watts???
It's just more optimized for lower watts then the ally could be, I'm surprised the deck was holding its own with the ally at 15w, kinda funny really, makes me positive the steam deck is amazing, and valve customer support is unmatched.
Steam decks custom processor is intentionally designed to be very efficient kinda like how apple ipads can do heavy workloada without fans thanks to efficient design. and the SD sweet spot performance seems to be around 10watts from what I've tested with my oled one. At 15w often times you just get a couple extra frames but no major jumps.
How do you upscale the Ally’ screen to 1080p? I found it working on some games and in others like cyberpunk I’m not sure if it’s working. I can clearly see the difference between 1080 and 720 (rsr) even though many says you can’t at all. That must mean that it doesn’t work properly at those games.
The proper way to know if upscaling is on is to make sure that the in game resolution is 720p, then you open the Ally's Command Center and the screen should be set to 1080p, besides enabling RSR make sure that you also have RIS enabled (it's what actually makes the quality seem like real 1080p).
@@benchmarkbros thanks. I’ll try that 😀
@@benchmarkbrosenabling RIS would describe RSR so that can’t be achieved unfortunately.
@@benchmarkbros Maybe I am dumb but e.g. in Cyberpunk 2077 don't you just put the resolution to 1080p and then enable FSR?
I mean if you are just going to play, not for benchmark purposes. I hope my comment makes sense.
I just got my Ally this weekend, so if I may I'd like to ask another question.
Is it better to just set frame cap, resolution, etc. inside each game, or would you use armory crate for it? So far I have just adjusted the settings inside the game (e.g. in Baldur's gate 3) and then set the TDP through armory crate. I have to say I was completly caught of guard at how good the game can look on the ally while having a really good fps. I capped my fps at 40 but I am sure you could get even more without making the game uglier.
@@TheRubsi During my tests I found that setting the resolution to 720p and then enabling RIS provides better image quality and performance than using 1080p with FSR 2. Especially if you're going to be using very aggressive FSR 2 presets like performance which introduces a lot of artifacts.
I usually set the TDP manually to 15W and use a custom fan curve, I never set a frame cap since it's hard for the Ally to max out the screen. One thing, make sure your screen is set to 120Hz, otherwise, VRR doesn't kick in.
Bro you have actiated FSR on the steam deck + in the game...... This makes it somehow unfair comparison.
It's as fair as it gets, both devices are rendering at 720p with fsr 2 in-game, and then upscaling to 1080p with either FSR 1 or RSR.
Wtf do you mean by “resolution 720p with upscale to 1080p” ?
You mean 1080 with “fsr quality”?
i dont think which TDP is important, what we need is stable performance and long battery life. That's what a handheld device should be aiming at.
TDP is important, racing cars weren’t made to be fuel efficient. Get a power bank
This comment makes zero sense. Battery capacity/TDP = battery life. Obviously TDP *is* the most important aspect of battery life.
dude TDP is literally what decides your battery life , luckily you are not a scientist
its z1 or z1extrime ally?
It's the Z1 Extreme Ally
How do you change the 15w to 25w
On the Ally through Armoury Crate. The Steam Deck doesn't support 25W.
What Ally Bios was used when recording this?
The latest bios released, version 319.
@@benchmarkbros Thought so. I wonder what 3.17 would have brought to the table.
@@das2003 Around 10-20% more performance seems to be the general consensus. But I think I'll just wait for the next bios. I don't think that Asus released bios 319 just to screw up the performance of the Ally, so there has to be something more to it.
@@benchmarkbros Version 319 it seems improves the 1% low better than 317. Some games will hit a performance loss with 319 unless you set in the bios the vram to auto instead of 4 Gb. You need to set it to "auto" 319 to see if performance improve. Auto you should get the same average fps as 317 but with a lot higher 1% .. thus it seems Asus is trying to get more balance frame rate without the lows 1%. Some reason the vram set to 4 gb (default) can cause worst performance in 319 than with 317 with some games.
(someone figured this out knowing on the Deck if you set the Vram from 1Gb to 4Gb RDR 2 ran worst )
@@smidlee7747 yeah that's because, you fill 16 gb of ram easier doing that
That's why ROG ally build a z1 extreme to defeat steam deck.because steamdeck is powerful than ROG z1
In this video I'm using the Z1 Extreme ROG Ally, the video is from when it was released though so now the performance should be much better. Maybe I should make a video with the latest BIOS and drivers
@@benchmarkbrosyou really should I’m quite curious about how 10w mode fares on the Ally after all the bios updates compared to the steam deck now.
Only a few seconds worth, where the ally was better than the deck in fps, weird
It's pretty much the results I'm getting with every game I'm testing. I'm working on testing Elden Ring and it's pretty much the same situation. Steam Deck and Ally tied at 15w, with the Ally getting an occasional slight lead, but the Steam Deck is working better at 10W and the 25-30W mode of the Ally destroys the Deck (but it uses much more power so it makes sense). The Ally's screen kind of makes up for it, but for my day-to-day gaming I'm still using the Deck just because of the better battery life on AAA games (using 9-10w mode).
Steam deck is better i sent rog ally to repairs messes up micro sd and it overheats
No trackpad + more expensive for low performance
Asus should learn how their bad