Even my heart has always been capricious, it used to drive me crazy when I was young. Now I don't think about it anymore, screw it, even though a month ago I think I came close to death, my heartbeat was very weak. Instead of calling a doctor, I stayed in bed, had breakfast as if nothing happened... and got over it. The show must go on!
Wearable medical electronics in teeny tiny sizes - interesting and nice looking! I've been doing some teardowns of medical/scientific gear I got from my friend at GUMed lately, and just can't stop marveling at how far electromedical gear has come, from cumbersome boxes found in hospitals to little gadgets you can wear and they don't cause discomfort or tie you up with all those cables. Cloud, lack of support... damn these times. We need regulations ensuring being able to use the thing after a company goes defunct. Preferably by well-documented interfaces using free and open source protocols like MQTT etc. We've seen it with implants - and that's why I'm so opposed to the likes of Neuralink. I'd be caught dead with putting anything into my body that depends on any external systems beyond my control and can't be hacked to get it usable if that goes down.
i know someone having a metal plate to secure the femur together, and a couple decades later wanting it removed but the tool for the bolts used at the time, were apparently no longer available. (the plates can be really cold in the winter).
First i thought : The oura seems interresting. Then i visited their website. You need an account to use it. Its a subscription model to enable all features. You're sending medical data to some company. Just one of these points would be enough to stay away from this product.
@@FranLab Might be different in the US, but over here i usually dont need to deal with "medical companies". We have public healthcare. So my data is collected, yes. But not by a private company that might do whatever they want with it. Medical data is regarded highly confidential here, and strictly protected by law. From my european pov its just mind boggling that people give that kind of information to somebody that is not your doctor.
My mom has had a Kardia for several years, I've even replaced the battery, and I thought for sure it was BLE! One coin cell lasted her over a year with almost daily use, I was very impressed. Sometimes she gets bad readings and now I realize that it must be when she is using it on a soft surface like a blanket, it must be muffling the sound.
I actually have a Go2sleep ring by Sleepon and it works pretty well and I just use it as a sleep tracker only as its designed. I remember the best tracker was the Dreem 2 headband but they no longer sell to the consumer market and now its just to Clinicians as it was almost as good as a lab sleep study.
Wow, those are really cool devices! I was going to call the gadgets, but that implies a certain triviality, whereas these look like they're pretty ingenious! I had heard of the ring, but I thought it was just a one trick pony. They really manage to pack a lot of functionality into a super tiny package! As for the cost and un-repairability, that's pretty much on par for "medical" devices. It does sound like you're getting your money's worth though, as long as it lasts a good few years. My understanding is that supercaps should have a very good lifespan, so unless it's using an incredibly tiny lithium battery, more likely a bad drop would be the thing to cause it to stop working. Or something else causing a failure of the adhesion of the inner plastic ring to the outer metal ring. Personally, I'm not keen on jewellery (or in this case, something that looks like jewellery), so I probably wouldn't get one. Even if I could benefit from monitoring my heart rate and sleep and etc., I don't think I'd get one or use it even it were inexpensive. Same goes for a smart watch or fitness tracker band.
I got the oura last fall and love it. I have rheumatoid and epilepsy so the ability to track my sleep and exercise has been invaluable. I also get the added benefit of feeling like a cyborg perhaps in the trekverse😂 Love your stuff Fran! Always interesting and informative ❤
Ive been looking for one of these units, I have a Garimin bike computer which came with a chest strap and not comfy to wear, now you can use any ANT compatible and that also can be used with phone apps and gym equipment. so I opted for a Garmin watch and that works on the bike and through a phone app.BUT,,,I work as a vehicle mechanic, the watch a the ring are no good for day to day use as they get caught in engines. has anyone come across an ankle strap system that would be better for me.
Can you hear your Kardia? I can't (I'm 58), but my daughter can hear it (she's 26). So my young nephews (9-10 yo). And my dog doesn't like it at all!! haha!
That's a seriously cool piece of tech that people are likely to wear all the time and so might just save your life 57 BPM whilst talking. That's impressive!
For $399 I'll take my own pulse with my finger . anyone with heart condition normally CAN'T afford this on top of hospital bills or in canada being disabled u can not afford it period .
At first it seems like a great idea, but .. Not only is it expensive, you need to give them money ad infinitum and, like you say, if they fail then it does too and your at the end of that road despite your generous support. There are other horrid possibilities too. Like that ketone monitor company a few years back that sold everyone an expensive ketone monitoring system, then one fine day turned on a dime and made the system you payed $$$ to buy into obsolete, but hey, here's another system -- just fork over your money again and throw the one you bought last month away!!
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Even my heart has always been capricious, it used to drive me crazy when I was young. Now I don't think about it anymore, screw it, even though a month ago I think I came close to death, my heartbeat was very weak. Instead of calling a doctor, I stayed in bed, had breakfast as if nothing happened... and got over it. The show must go on!
Wow! Ultrasonic comms is awesome
Wearable medical electronics in teeny tiny sizes - interesting and nice looking! I've been doing some teardowns of medical/scientific gear I got from my friend at GUMed lately, and just can't stop marveling at how far electromedical gear has come, from cumbersome boxes found in hospitals to little gadgets you can wear and they don't cause discomfort or tie you up with all those cables.
Cloud, lack of support... damn these times. We need regulations ensuring being able to use the thing after a company goes defunct. Preferably by well-documented interfaces using free and open source protocols like MQTT etc. We've seen it with implants - and that's why I'm so opposed to the likes of Neuralink. I'd be caught dead with putting anything into my body that depends on any external systems beyond my control and can't be hacked to get it usable if that goes down.
i know someone having a metal plate to secure the femur together, and a couple decades later wanting it removed but the tool for the bolts used at the time, were apparently no longer available. (the plates can be really cold in the winter).
My last couple of sleep studies were not in a lab but at home using a wrist monitor for a single night. Only looking for sleep apnea but it worked.
First i thought : The oura seems interresting. Then i visited their website.
You need an account to use it.
Its a subscription model to enable all features.
You're sending medical data to some company.
Just one of these points would be enough to stay away from this product.
Name one medical company that does not collect your data.
@@FranLab Might be different in the US, but over here i usually dont need to deal with "medical companies". We have public healthcare. So my data is collected, yes. But not by a private company that might do whatever they want with it. Medical data is regarded highly confidential here, and strictly protected by law.
From my european pov its just mind boggling that people give that kind of information to somebody that is not your doctor.
If you leave the app open, it will record a walk, run, or bike ride and even show the route you took. Very good at recording sleep.
My mom has had a Kardia for several years, I've even replaced the battery, and I thought for sure it was BLE! One coin cell lasted her over a year with almost daily use, I was very impressed. Sometimes she gets bad readings and now I realize that it must be when she is using it on a soft surface like a blanket, it must be muffling the sound.
I actually have a Go2sleep ring by Sleepon and it works pretty well and I just use it as a sleep tracker only as its designed. I remember the best tracker was the Dreem 2 headband but they no longer sell to the consumer market and now its just to Clinicians as it was almost as good as a lab sleep study.
Does the oura do continuous blood oxygen analysis?
I think super capacitors are very very long lasting. I think the battery will outlast the software and support of the device.
There are some solid state Lithium cells that would fit in that ring. The ones I am thinking of are 3mm x 2mm x 1.5mm.
That's unreal.... that's a lot shoved into a small space.
Wow, those are really cool devices! I was going to call the gadgets, but that implies a certain triviality, whereas these look like they're pretty ingenious! I had heard of the ring, but I thought it was just a one trick pony. They really manage to pack a lot of functionality into a super tiny package!
As for the cost and un-repairability, that's pretty much on par for "medical" devices. It does sound like you're getting your money's worth though, as long as it lasts a good few years. My understanding is that supercaps should have a very good lifespan, so unless it's using an incredibly tiny lithium battery, more likely a bad drop would be the thing to cause it to stop working. Or something else causing a failure of the adhesion of the inner plastic ring to the outer metal ring.
Personally, I'm not keen on jewellery (or in this case, something that looks like jewellery), so I probably wouldn't get one. Even if I could benefit from monitoring my heart rate and sleep and etc., I don't think I'd get one or use it even it were inexpensive. Same goes for a smart watch or fitness tracker band.
That is pretty cool
Thanks Fran ... tech is surprising me lately
I got the oura last fall and love it. I have rheumatoid and epilepsy so the ability to track my sleep and exercise has been invaluable. I also get the added benefit of feeling like a cyborg perhaps in the trekverse😂
Love your stuff Fran! Always interesting and informative ❤
Ive been looking for one of these units, I have a Garimin bike computer which came with a chest strap and not comfy to wear, now you can use any ANT compatible and that also can be used with phone apps and gym equipment. so I opted for a Garmin watch and that works on the bike and through a phone app.BUT,,,I work as a vehicle mechanic, the watch a the ring are no good for day to day use as they get caught in engines. has anyone come across an ankle strap system that would be better for me.
I only monitor during certain times, otherwise I'm not wearing it.
Can you hear your Kardia? I can't (I'm 58), but my daughter can hear it (she's 26). So my young nephews (9-10 yo). And my dog doesn't like it at all!! haha!
I no longer can hear in those frequencies - but when I was a kid - Yowwzee! Definitely.
@@FranLab Same here, can't hear much above about 13-14K!
Merci Fran.
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That's a seriously cool piece of tech that people are likely to wear all the time and so might just save your life
57 BPM whilst talking. That's impressive!
For $399 I'll take my own pulse with my finger . anyone with heart condition normally CAN'T afford this on top of hospital bills or in canada being disabled u can not afford it period .
You have obviously not been in the hospital lately. This was just a tiny fraction of that - heck - the ambulance ride alone! Jeez!
double open heart bypass client.@@FranLab
At first it seems like a great idea, but ..
Not only is it expensive, you need to give them money ad infinitum and, like you say, if they fail then it does too and your at the end of that road despite your generous support. There are other horrid possibilities too. Like that ketone monitor company a few years back that sold everyone an expensive ketone monitoring system, then one fine day turned on a dime and made the system you payed $$$ to buy into obsolete, but hey, here's another system -- just fork over your money again and throw the one you bought last month away!!
Are you in Philly Fran ?? Let’s collaborate
Finnish is titanium and its Finnish.. see.. funny wording...
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