Oh man Rob!... The sound of planing, the smell of the shaving, the feel of the surface....I never tire of your passion, discipline and all the sharing. Thanks. I gotta go to the shop now.
This is a wonderful tutorial on how to use a bench plane I've watched it more than once. I'm practically embarrassed to admit that I stumbled on something that makes setting a plane blade easier a little while ago. It seems that everyone wants you to adjust the right/left tilt of the blade by turning the plane over and sighting down the length of the body. A while ago I looked across my plane (at a right angle to the sole) and adjusted the blade to the front edge of the mouth. It was so easy and so natural because I was adjusting the blade to be parallel to the mouth. Try it!
This is a great summary of the things to remember when using a hand plane. Practical points to get the tool to work for you the way it wants to. Great video to watch before using a hand plane. Thanks you!
@3:05 Yeah, I get it. Sometimes when im in my shop and im running my 5 1/2 over the surface of a gorgeous chunk of wood with a fresh edge on the iron and its singing as those wispy thin shavings curl up and over the side of the plane...Yeah, i get a tad bit emotional as well and need to pause and reflect on what a wonderful process this whole journey has been. What a great moment.
I just got into hand planing and I love it . Just purchased a veritas block plane and a low angle Jack plane and thanks to you I am learning how to sharpen and use properly. Have a lot of power tools but this a great change and NO sawdust . Thank you so much for your videos and keep them coming. Still learning the sharpening but getting there Bob
Hand planing got me into hand tool woodworking because doing it well is so satisfying . I laughed out loud when you talked about just making shavings. I have a box oF offcuts Ie save just for that. Stu
...and all those shavings make it so very easy to get a fire going. I use them in the wood stove in the family room, and pack them into a zip-lock bag for camping.
I made last week a mirror frame from African walnut, cut, made all the joint ( mitered bridle joints), grooves for the mirror to sit in, and planing it and dimensions all the parts with hand tools...but I don't know way the hand planing part is the most joyful part...the surface of the frame was so smooth even the in the parts were the wood fibers went all directions ( it was less smooth) for the first time I have decided not to sand it, put few coats of Tung oil ( two- three days). I had a lot of fine shavings so instead of throwing them I am giving it away to my wife's school petting farm class. Thanks keep your health and stay sharp!
I'm not a huge fan, per se, of ASMR... But if I were, the sound of a sharp plane doing its thing is so relaxing and would likely be my selection to listen to. Adding in the pleasant feel of the proper mechanics when everything finally "clicks," the feeling of handling a well tuned hand tool, the scent of the lumber, the resulting visual satisfaction of the thin shavings and finally the feel of the surface texture on the resulting wood surface... It is such a pleasure but can also be extremely frustrating when you aren't getting proper results. These videos are an awesome, quick reference to get you on the right track! Thank you, Rob and team!
i have a questoin at the end of my comment. though it may seem counterintuitive, i love seeing a mistake in the editing or rather when a bad 'take' is left in. oddly enough it shows how seriously and professionally you take the responsibilty that you guys have undertaken in teaching all of us the peace and joy of woodworking by letting us see just a small piece of the work you do do make each presentation perfect. you said your favorite thing about hand planing is the surface it leaves. while i agree that it is unparalleled my favorite thing is sense of peace it brings to me. as an aside this week i was given the gift of speaking to three active/retired servicemen and women that were wounded in combat. one specifially was an airman whos parachute failed but the other two, understandalbly didnt want to talk about their trauma, while i certainly respect that and did not press them at all, i feel like those two who were quiet and semed distressed where the ones i would have rather spoken to with more specifics about PHP. but i was able to give each of them a rob cosman buisness card after spent a few minutes telling them about you guys, what you do for woodworkers all over the world with you videos and more specificaly what you have done with your amazing PHP,. i gave them each a card and they excitedly said that they intend to apply. thanks again to you, luther, frick, jake and all the others who are involved. big question....i havent seen megan in the last few live shows. how is she doing ? how is the prenancy coming? ps rob is my teacher, luther is my hero and jake is the man. pss how can i get some additional buisness cards
I really loved the uncut version of this episode, I don't know if you meant to leave the scenes inthere that you "re did" but it gave a really cozy feeling to the video, as if Rob was speaking teaching me one to one. Great video, and great tips! Thanks so much
Man, I just started using hand planes. Still learning a lot and kinda working with some generic tools (free to me stuff.) The first time I smoothed a board was completely awesome. The last time I smoothed a board was equally as awesome.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Yes, I do enjoy hand planing. Would like to see you expand this series to cover some specialty planes. What are the tricks to using a rabbit or shoulder plane. What about molding planes and spoke shaves.
Another top video. Great for new comers and a good reminder for those who have been doing it long enough to develop bad habits. Surely not me. I put a 5 gallon drum beside me and get used to throwing the shavings in the bin. Saves on cleanup. I should put it on a wheeled pot stand. Easier to just kick around.
You’re such a great teacher...my technique is far from perfect for a novice like me but your tips are helping me a lot. Also how do you make that wedge to lay the board against? Thanks much💙💛👏👏
Thanks Rob, once again you break it down and clarify the issues. I think you should show just how smooth and shiny a planed surface can be. You mention how smooth it is all the time, but a camera shot with the light coming off is absolutely amazing to those who have not seen it.
Hey, Rob, I’ve been using hand planes for almost 40 years. It’s awesome I always seem to learn something new with your videos. A question occurred to me during this one. Let’s say you need to plane down 1/8”+ inch of material. Do you find it more efficient to use thin shavings at first or start with thick and then go down to the thin ones? I’ve always gone thick down to thin. By thick I mean the type you have to throw your whole body into. But you mentioned planing for hours on end. It occurred to me that might be wasting my energy muscling through those thick shavings. I’ve always tired out in 15-30 minutes.
Great technique refresher~! I'm getting much more comfortable planing board edges and using my shooting board, but I still need a bit of practice on wider boards in order to try getting away from having to finish-sand a surface...my ultimate goal~! Thanks Rob~!
Mr. Cosman, would you consider doing a video where you joint boards for a panel glue-up? I don't own a power jointer, but I needed to do this a few weeks ago. It went...poorly. If you have already made that video, my apologies.
Mr. Cosman, before your time with Lie Neelsen and WoodRiver, did you rely on hand planes for finishing as much as you do now? If so, did you use old Stanley planes, and was the 5.5 always your favorite? I never hear you talk about the tools you used heavily before modern, premium planes like LN and WR became available. I'm curious because I have a hard time imagining you with a lot of sandpaper!
Great Video - one exception. You use wonderful wood to demonstrate on. Out of necessity (and like) I use regular 2x4 material. How does your plane work (as in a video) on what is called crappy wood? Great on hardwood - no problem - softwood like a lot of us use.......? Probably not so much.
I plane 2x4s all the time just for the smell and kindling and other than the knots being brutal on the blades edges and needing to resharpen it gives a lovely finish
I've got a question that could be saved for a live stream for answering. No matter the price of a hand plane, why are there so many dead turns when moving the height adjustment knob to the opposite direction? You use a top quality plane and I see you cranking away when you change direction on the height adjustment knob. To my way of thinking, it should only be half a turn at the most.
Dead turns or back lash as it is commonly called is a function of the yolk. and the slot in the chipbreaker the yolk fits into. The yolk pushed forward on one edge of the slot which pushes the blade forward, when you reverse direction the opposite side of the yolk must now move to the opposite side of the slot in the chip breaker. The "Slop" is the amount of turns it takes for the yolk to move to the opposite edge of the slot. If they made the slot thinner it would reduce slop but make it harder to mount the blade to the frog and get it aligned up with the yolk.
This is a great video and I’m learning a lot. I’m happy that I’m already doing a couple of things you suggested. Just one question: why there is someone slapping the camera?
Hi Rob, thanks for all your tips. It’s very helpful, but I am wandering something. Around 9 minutes in this video, you saw you use the plane to finish a ready piece. Suppose you want a table leg to be precise 40mm. Do you then initial plane it a bit more than 40 so you can plane it to 40 when all work with it is done? If yes how much bigger then do you plane it?
Thanks very much! Re #10, overlap marks: why plane while retracting blade rather than retract the blade fully then plane while exposing the blade gradually ... as you demonstrated in an earlier tip?
Fantastic video. On point 9 (I think), you mention putting your hand across the other side of the plane when trying to make a pass over the left side only. I wondered why you wouldn't just use the finger fence trick on the left side of the board but making moving your finger further below plane? Is it just a tipping thing?
Thanks again Rob...one point: in retracting the blade for finer shavings, do you only retract or do you retract and then spin the wheel forward to eliminate "slop"? Does the blade take care, by itself, of any slop present? Personally, I'm in the habit of advancing to eliminate. Would you recommend not doing that? Thanks again.
Yes I have used them....I assume you are talking about an old Clifton. I have not evaluated an new Clifton. I still recommend Lie Nielson and WoodRiver
I was thinking about one of the newer ones, the Clifton ones are easier to get than wood River and lie Nielsen here in Australia, so I was wondering how it compares.
Rob can I ask you a sharping question? Do you use the 25 degree primary angle and then raise it a degree or two to final honing for both long and end grain? I used to have one blade set at about 28 degrees for end grain and another set about 40 degrees for long grain. Both blades would have a 25 degrees primary angle
My shavings never come out flat and accordion like. Can’t “pull” a shaving like you do in a super long strip. Mine come out and automatically curl up. Guessing has to do with how the blade is sharpened. Also, pushing the plane with only one hand on the tote, like you do in some videos. How are you accomplishing that trick? One last thing, backlash on the adjuster. I upgraded to the adjuSTAR, but both the star and the wheel have some backlash when changing from shallower to deep cut, and vice versa. Any tricks to reducing the backlash?
The adjustar does nothing to improve backlash it only improves the torque you can apply. Backlash is all about the amount of space the yolk must travel when reversing directions of the blade, not much you can do about that
I am kinda new to this but I think your curl has to do with your chip breaker. Maybe someone here will help both of us with that. I have been playing with that distance a little bit but haven't really figured it out yet. Mine kinda curl up too. I feel pretty confident that your backlash is either sloppy threads or just the space between your thingamabob and the hole in your iron (don't know what that thing is called.) I base this as my experience as a maintenance guy on some industrial machinery. If it were a machine we may shim it but with this? I dunno? Maybe? Backlash should really only happen once as you move the blade in one direction. If it happens everytime you go to make an adjustment than something else is also going on.
Mesmerizing. Actually felt a bit bad about that piece of curly maple turning into onion-skin shavings. 5 1/2 or 6 is becoming increasingly attractive. Thanks for the video!
I love my 5 1/2. I find the extra mass and width more useful than a 5. I like it so much I just bought a 4 1/2. As soon as I get it cleaned and tuned up I will see how well I like it.
Hi Rob, I am struggling planing wide boards flat. I need to face glue ~5" boards to each other to make a benchtop and no matter what I do I get these ugly gaps in the joints. I haven't seen any youtube vids that address that particular difficulty - any chance you'd be interested?
@@RobCosmanWoodworking it is definitely a flattening problem. I only have this issue with benchtop sized boards. I would love a video about flattening wide boards - can't find any advice online
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Thank you Rob.. Just starting to look at Planes. I have quite a few hours viewing so far. Seems like the #5-1/2 is a middle of the road "Jack of all Trades" Plane? Love those shavings you get with it. Was looking at the Stanley 12-137 No:#62 Low Angle Sweetheart Jack Plane with an extra 40 degree blade. Still thinking..
The good news with Rob’s sharpening is it’s just 30 seconds of pain once you get the blade sharp. :) Just a thought. You may have some luck sharpening with a water stone system such as the Tormek T4 (expensive) or Wen’s copy. Even though I don’t have arthritis, I have the T4 (owned a T3 that lasted me 10 years and is still kicking.). It’s good when I have to remove deep chips from a blade or what would otherwise be a 6 hour hand sharpening session. Once you get your blade into the jig, there wouldn’t be much more to it than refilling the water in the trough and gently pushing the blade into the stone. Some people have even fashioned broom “jigs” to accomplish the pressing down part for long stretches. I’ve never tried that, but I suppose it would work.
secret 11, get your new WoodRiver plane prepped by Rob's crew, no telling how long it would have taken me to set up the plane that well, or if I ever would have gotten there at all.
Idea for inclusion in another video. I read your reply to Frank Cawley in this comments section where you recommend not to take up slack in adjustment when backing off the blade for a finer shaving. Could you further discuss why. When I first took up wood working I listened to a chap who highly recommended that the slack should be taken up. Mind you that person also swears by light weight Stanley Bayley planes. Maybe the better quality Wood River planes don't require that step???
Lol. First thing my foreman taught me. "What's the bloody point in sharpening your plane iron if you lay it face down on the F'ing bench ?" Sharp edges are fragile, lay the bloody plane on its side.
The sharpening part drives me crazy... There are so many methods. You free hand on stones on water, Paul Seller free hands on diamonds plates, other dude uses a jig on special sand paper on glass, other guy uses a machine... I see pros and cons everywhere and can't decide which to stick to.
I use a Lie-Nielsen honing guide and their setup jig. With Rob's stones, I can setup my blade and sharpen in under a minute and keep amazing accuracy. I also have 3 very fine grit pieces of sandpaper on a piece of granite for an even faster touch up than the wet stones.
DTM.....yes it can be frustrating. The wood doesn't care how you sharpened the blade, just that it is sharp. There are lots of methods out there. My advice is dont chase sharpening methods, pick one and become and expert at it. Of course I think my sharpening method is the best !!!!!
Guys need to be grateful. Back in the day you had to work for free and you still had to figure most of it out on your own. You had to really pay attention to the masters and steal the skills they called it.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Oh no, don't tell me you know less about this than I do? Autonomous sensory meridian response...apparently. Every TH-camr worth their salt tries their hand at an ASMR vid. It's entirely possible you do a version of it without putting that label on it. What is more relaxing and stress relieving than the sound of a keen handplane?
@@RobCosmanWoodworking It's a tricky one. I've been attending a hand tool woodworking night school for the last 5 years and the number of people who bounce off it is around 30%. They love the idea of woodworking but the accuracy and the fact that it doesn't come easy is not for them. You have to be really sure it's a hobby for you before you buy a £300 plane unless money is no object to you. Just my opinion as a cash strapped amateur!
Assuming your numbers are correct, then you should be able to pick up a $300 plane on the secondhand market for less than full retail value. I’d much rather buy something that holds its value, than something junky that wouldn’t.
The problem is the "32 Seconds to Sharp" vid has almost 40min. You will lose your audience there. It would be great for your channel if there was a 2nd edition of that video, shorter, more concise and to the point. More people would get the value out of it. Not trying to be a jerk, just pointing out there is an opportunity there. Rgds
Well actually its our 2nd best performing video ever so folks are watching it. However, your idea of a shorter version is a good one, think I will do that
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I'd suggest having an onscreen timer running while you sharpen, to prove your point. No running commentary from you the first time, just sharpening from start to finish. Then you can talk through the specific steps at your leisure after the first run-through.
With a due respect, I think someone got a little too punchy on the upload button before editing was done. Always appreciate the videos and teaching, but seems sloppy. Hard to judge when you are getting taught for free, but your brand is better than this video.
I believe he means the things that are typically edited out like the false starts / multiple takes, Jake putting his hand over the camera etc. that were not edited out of this video.
All....we are super busy and sometimes like this time the video doesn't get filmed early enough to go through all of our editing checks and rechecks. So we have a choice get the video out on time know it may have some warts or miss posting and dont get the video out to everyone. We choose to get the video out to you guys, we assume you can handle a few warts but would rather have the information. We are NOT video pros, we are woodworkers.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I enjoyed the video completely.. In my mind, it was Jake playing tricks on Rob.. "Yep, sure, I'll edit that out.. (haha)". But seriously, the information given here is flawless, regardless of editing. As always, I'm very thankful for that!
Everyone should save this video to a PLANING Playlist just as a reminder or a FAULT finder for when they have a planing problem. Great video Rob 👌
Great video. It seems that this one did not get a final edit, though. Several partial takes didn’t get edited out.
Luther!
Oh man Rob!... The sound of planing, the smell of the shaving, the feel of the surface....I never tire of your passion, discipline and all the sharing. Thanks. I gotta go to the shop now.
🤢🤢🤢🤮
This is a wonderful tutorial on how to use a bench plane I've watched it more than once. I'm practically embarrassed to admit that I stumbled on something that makes setting a plane blade easier a little while ago. It seems that everyone wants you to adjust the right/left tilt of the blade by turning the plane over and sighting down the length of the body. A while ago I looked across my plane (at a right angle to the sole) and adjusted the blade to the front edge of the mouth. It was so easy and so natural because I was adjusting the blade to be parallel to the mouth. Try it!
This is a great summary of the things to remember when using a hand plane. Practical points to get the tool to work for you the way it wants to. Great video to watch before using a hand plane. Thanks you!
Glad it was helpful!
@3:05 Yeah, I get it. Sometimes when im in my shop and im running my 5 1/2 over the surface of a gorgeous chunk of wood with a fresh edge on the iron and its singing as those wispy thin shavings curl up and over the side of the plane...Yeah, i get a tad bit emotional as well and need to pause and reflect on what a wonderful process this whole journey has been. What a great moment.
I just got into hand planing and I love it . Just purchased a veritas block plane and a low angle Jack plane and thanks to you I am learning how to sharpen and use properly. Have a lot of power tools but this a great change and NO sawdust . Thank you so much for your videos and keep them coming. Still learning the sharpening but getting there
Bob
Hand planing got me into hand tool woodworking because doing it well is so satisfying . I laughed out loud when you talked about just making shavings. I have a box oF offcuts Ie save just for that. Stu
Its so fun just to plane. Those who have never tried it dont understand
...and all those shavings make it so very easy to get a fire going. I use them in the wood stove in the family room, and pack them into a zip-lock bag for camping.
@@jeffdutton1910 I use ‘em in my bee smoker
@@stufarnham let nothing be wasted.
Thanks Rob. I always learn something when I watch one of your videos.
Outstanding....hopefully that will keep you watching
Or even better.. take one of his Purple Heart class and you’ll be amazed…
I made last week a mirror frame from African walnut, cut, made all the joint ( mitered bridle joints), grooves for the mirror to sit in, and planing it and dimensions all the parts with hand tools...but I don't know way the hand planing part is the most joyful part...the surface of the frame was so smooth even the in the parts were the wood fibers went all directions ( it was less smooth) for the first time I have decided not to sand it, put few coats of Tung oil ( two- three days). I had a lot of fine shavings so instead of throwing them I am giving it away to my wife's school petting farm class. Thanks keep your health and stay sharp!
Great comment, thanks
I'm not a huge fan, per se, of ASMR... But if I were, the sound of a sharp plane doing its thing is so relaxing and would likely be my selection to listen to. Adding in the pleasant feel of the proper mechanics when everything finally "clicks," the feeling of handling a well tuned hand tool, the scent of the lumber, the resulting visual satisfaction of the thin shavings and finally the feel of the surface texture on the resulting wood surface... It is such a pleasure but can also be extremely frustrating when you aren't getting proper results. These videos are an awesome, quick reference to get you on the right track! Thank you, Rob and team!
Thnaks for watching and commenting
Watching you relaxes me too!
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i have a questoin at the end of my comment. though it may seem counterintuitive, i love seeing a mistake in the editing or rather when a bad 'take' is left in. oddly enough it shows how seriously and professionally you take the responsibilty that you guys have undertaken in teaching all of us the peace and joy of woodworking by letting us see just a small piece of the work you do do make each presentation perfect. you said your favorite thing about hand planing is the surface it leaves. while i agree that it is unparalleled my favorite thing is sense of peace it brings to me. as an aside this week i was given the gift of speaking to three active/retired servicemen and women that were wounded in combat. one specifially was an airman whos parachute failed but the other two, understandalbly didnt want to talk about their trauma, while i certainly respect that and did not press them at all, i feel like those two who were quiet and semed distressed where the ones i would have rather spoken to with more specifics about PHP. but i was able to give each of them a rob cosman buisness card after spent a few minutes telling them about you guys, what you do for woodworkers all over the world with you videos and more specificaly what you have done with your amazing PHP,. i gave them each a card and they excitedly said that they intend to apply. thanks again to you, luther, frick, jake and all the others who are involved. big question....i havent seen megan in the last few live shows. how is she doing ? how is the prenancy coming? ps rob is my teacher, luther is my hero and jake is the man. pss how can i get some additional buisness cards
Meagn is a couple months away from giving birth, doing fine. Send me an email at robswebmaster @robcosman.com and I will get you more b cards.
I really loved the uncut version of this episode, I don't know if you meant to leave the scenes inthere that you "re did" but it gave a really cozy feeling to the video, as if Rob was speaking teaching me one to one. Great video, and great tips! Thanks so much
It was a mistake of rushing to get published...
A happy accident
I love learning. Thank you Mr Cosman
thanks for watching
Missed an edit at 3:30. You guys are awesome.
Man, I just started using hand planes. Still learning a lot and kinda working with some generic tools (free to me stuff.) The first time I smoothed a board was completely awesome. The last time I smoothed a board was equally as awesome.
Dont you just love planing wood?
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Yes, I do enjoy hand planing. Would like to see you expand this series to cover some specialty planes. What are the tricks to using a rabbit or shoulder plane. What about molding planes and spoke shaves.
Another top video. Great for new comers and a good reminder for those who have been doing it long enough to develop bad habits. Surely not me.
I put a 5 gallon drum beside me and get used to throwing the shavings in the bin. Saves on cleanup. I should put it on a wheeled pot stand. Easier to just kick around.
You’re such a great teacher...my technique is far from perfect for a novice like me but your tips are helping me a lot. Also how do you make that wedge to lay the board against? Thanks much💙💛👏👏
Thanks Rob, once again you break it down and clarify the issues. I think you should show just how smooth and shiny a planed surface can be. You mention how smooth it is all the time, but a camera shot with the light coming off is absolutely amazing to those who have not seen it.
Great idea...next time I get a chance to do that I will
Hey, Rob, I’ve been using hand planes for almost 40 years. It’s awesome I always seem to learn something new with your videos.
A question occurred to me during this one. Let’s say you need to plane down 1/8”+ inch of material. Do you find it more efficient to use thin shavings at first or start with thick and then go down to the thin ones? I’ve always gone thick down to thin. By thick I mean the type you have to throw your whole body into. But you mentioned planing for hours on end. It occurred to me that might be wasting my energy muscling through those thick shavings. I’ve always tired out in 15-30 minutes.
Thank you an educational and inspirational video! I still have to get better with sharpening the iron, but I am getting there.
Thank you. Still learning. I really think it is relaxing too!
As you get older it is harder to see that blade if it is parallel to the sole. All good points in the video. Enjoyed the content.
I ordert last week a woodriver 5 1/2 an i am so excited to work with......! best wishes from vienna!
did you order from Us?
Thank you. This is very helpful. I value your opinions and style.
Great technique refresher~! I'm getting much more comfortable planing board edges and using my shooting board, but I still need a bit of practice on wider boards in order to try getting away from having to finish-sand a surface...my ultimate goal~!
Thanks Rob~!
Mr. Cosman, would you consider doing a video where you joint boards for a panel glue-up? I don't own a power jointer, but I needed to do this a few weeks ago. It went...poorly.
If you have already made that video, my apologies.
Fantastic class Rob, thanks for taking the time to share it.
Mr. Cosman, before your time with Lie Neelsen and WoodRiver, did you rely on hand planes for finishing as much as you do now? If so, did you use old Stanley planes, and was the 5.5 always your favorite?
I never hear you talk about the tools you used heavily before modern, premium planes like LN and WR became available. I'm curious because I have a hard time imagining you with a lot of sandpaper!
Thanks Rob! As always, so helpful.
Great Video - one exception. You use wonderful wood to demonstrate on. Out of necessity (and like) I use regular 2x4 material. How does your plane work (as in a video) on what is called crappy wood? Great on hardwood - no problem - softwood like a lot of us use.......? Probably not so much.
I plane 2x4s all the time just for the smell and kindling and other than the knots being brutal on the blades edges and needing to resharpen it gives a lovely finish
Thanks for your detailed examples - they really help. Thanks for sharing.
Glad it was helpful!
I've got a question that could be saved for a live stream for answering. No matter the price of a hand plane, why are there so many dead turns when moving the height adjustment knob to the opposite direction? You use a top quality plane and I see you cranking away when you change direction on the height adjustment knob. To my way of thinking, it should only be half a turn at the most.
I’ve wondered the same thing
@@redwoodprosth you have to take up the pitch of the thread.
Dead turns or back lash as it is commonly called is a function of the yolk. and the slot in the chipbreaker the yolk fits into. The yolk pushed forward on one edge of the slot which pushes the blade forward, when you reverse direction the opposite side of the yolk must now move to the opposite side of the slot in the chip breaker. The "Slop" is the amount of turns it takes for the yolk to move to the opposite edge of the slot. If they made the slot thinner it would reduce slop but make it harder to mount the blade to the frog and get it aligned up with the yolk.
Is it possible to have a link to the wax you use? Thanks!
Superb presentation and instruction. Thanks! Always a new fact to pick up.
Glad you enjoyed it!
This is a great video and I’m learning a lot. I’m happy that I’m already doing a couple of things you suggested.
Just one question: why there is someone slapping the camera?
When you mentioned eliminating some machinery by learning proper handplaning skills, which pieces of machinery were you referring to?
Hi Rob, thanks for all your tips.
It’s very helpful, but I am wandering something.
Around 9 minutes in this video, you saw you use the plane to finish a ready piece. Suppose you want a table leg to be precise 40mm. Do you then initial plane it a bit more than 40 so you can plane it to 40 when all work with it is done?
If yes how much bigger then do you plane it?
Great review and summary of technique. I'm saving this to watch again and again. And I'll give an additional plug for the AdjusSTAR; saved my thumbs!
Thanks, I agree with your assessment
Информация очень нужная, спасибо Вам.
Thanks very much! Re #10, overlap marks: why plane while retracting blade rather than retract the blade fully then plane while exposing the blade gradually ... as you demonstrated in an earlier tip?
no problem
Fantastic video. On point 9 (I think), you mention putting your hand across the other side of the plane when trying to make a pass over the left side only. I wondered why you wouldn't just use the finger fence trick on the left side of the board but making moving your finger further below plane? Is it just a tipping thing?
You can do that too, it will work
Great video Rob. 😎
Can you tell me what you are using as a blade adjuster knob? It looked like a wing nut.
It’s called an AdjuStar, we pieced the idea together about a year ago. They’re available on our website for a whole slew of planes.
Thanks again Rob...one point: in retracting the blade for finer shavings, do you only retract or do you retract and then spin the wheel forward to eliminate "slop"? Does the blade take care, by itself, of any slop present? Personally, I'm in the habit of advancing to eliminate. Would you recommend not doing that?
Thanks again.
I would definitely recommend not doing that. Worry about the slop, or backlash, when you change directions.
Thank you Dear Rob, very interesting and useful video - as always!!!!
you bet
Excellent.
Many thanks.
thanks for watching and commenting
Cool. Although this video is a little bit rough, and it could be improved with couple of shavings, all the important parts were there.
Rule #11 Enjoy using a plain is very rewarding when you become familiar with it and it's a go to tool.
well said
Great video. I am wondering about getting a Clifton hand plane and was wondering if you have ever used one and if they are any good?
Yes I have used them....I assume you are talking about an old Clifton. I have not evaluated an new Clifton. I still recommend Lie Nielson and WoodRiver
I was thinking about one of the newer ones, the Clifton ones are easier to get than wood River and lie Nielsen here in Australia, so I was wondering how it compares.
Cameraman's hilarious love the reset lol😂
Rob can I ask you a sharping question? Do you use the 25 degree primary angle and then raise it a degree or two to final honing for both long and end grain? I used to have one blade set at about 28 degrees for end grain and another set about 40 degrees for long grain. Both blades would have a 25 degrees primary angle
Yes that is exactly what I do. I use 25 for everything unless I need to reach for my High hand 55 degree blade
Rob can you please answer a question I have. Is planning wood better than sanding even if go through the different grits away 120 all the way to 300?
There is no grit that would produce a better finish than a sharp handplane
My shavings never come out flat and accordion like. Can’t “pull” a shaving like you do in a super long strip. Mine come out and automatically curl up. Guessing has to do with how the blade is sharpened. Also, pushing the plane with only one hand on the tote, like you do in some videos. How are you accomplishing that trick? One last thing, backlash on the adjuster. I upgraded to the adjuSTAR, but both the star and the wheel have some backlash when changing from shallower to deep cut, and vice versa. Any tricks to reducing the backlash?
The adjustar does nothing to improve backlash it only improves the torque you can apply. Backlash is all about the amount of space the yolk must travel when reversing directions of the blade, not much you can do about that
I am kinda new to this but I think your curl has to do with your chip breaker. Maybe someone here will help both of us with that. I have been playing with that distance a little bit but haven't really figured it out yet. Mine kinda curl up too.
I feel pretty confident that your backlash is either sloppy threads or just the space between your thingamabob and the hole in your iron (don't know what that thing is called.) I base this as my experience as a maintenance guy on some industrial machinery. If it were a machine we may shim it but with this? I dunno? Maybe? Backlash should really only happen once as you move the blade in one direction. If it happens everytime you go to make an adjustment than something else is also going on.
Backlash just goes with the territory. You just need to learn to compensate for it when you're adjusting.
Mesmerizing. Actually felt a bit bad about that piece of curly maple turning into onion-skin shavings. 5 1/2 or 6 is becoming increasingly attractive. Thanks for the video!
I love my 5 1/2. I find the extra mass and width more useful than a 5. I like it so much I just bought a 4 1/2. As soon as I get it cleaned and tuned up I will see how well I like it.
5-1/2is my go to plane
I love how the scenes that were supposed to be cut are still there. Rob, you should just put out a blooper reel once every few months.
Good idea
Do you use the ruler trick on a skew block plane?
Absolutely
Hi Rob, I am struggling planing wide boards flat. I need to face glue ~5" boards to each other to make a benchtop and no matter what I do I get these ugly gaps in the joints. I haven't seen any youtube vids that address that particular difficulty - any chance you'd be interested?
Sounds like a clamping problem or a flattening problems before gluing them together
@@RobCosmanWoodworking it is definitely a flattening problem. I only have this issue with benchtop sized boards. I would love a video about flattening wide boards - can't find any advice online
How do you go hand planning hardwood like spotted gum or ironbark?
sharp blade , small projecting of the blade
When a get a good quality hand plane a good one is worth a lots of money form where i live
Thanks for the comment
Can Anyone confirm which Plane is Rob using in this Video? He uses it quite often. Which number?
No. 5-1/2
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Thank you Rob.. Just starting to look at Planes. I have quite a few hours viewing so far. Seems like the #5-1/2 is a middle of the road "Jack of all Trades" Plane? Love those shavings you get with it. Was looking at the Stanley 12-137 No:#62 Low Angle Sweetheart Jack Plane with an extra 40 degree blade. Still thinking..
Plus with hand tools you can still listen to your music.
I quit at #1, proper sharpening. When I master that With arthritis I’ll continue on with the plane. Wish me luck 🍀
The good news with Rob’s sharpening is it’s just 30 seconds of pain once you get the blade sharp. :)
Just a thought. You may have some luck sharpening with a water stone system such as the Tormek T4 (expensive) or Wen’s copy. Even though I don’t have arthritis, I have the T4 (owned a T3 that lasted me 10 years and is still kicking.). It’s good when I have to remove deep chips from a blade or what would otherwise be a 6 hour hand sharpening session. Once you get your blade into the jig, there wouldn’t be much more to it than refilling the water in the trough and gently pushing the blade into the stone. Some people have even fashioned broom “jigs” to accomplish the pressing down part for long stretches. I’ve never tried that, but I suppose it would work.
Watch Robs 32 seconds to sharp to learn how to sharpen your hand plane blade: th-cam.com/video/okLIEoz00v0/w-d-xo.html
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secret 11, get your new WoodRiver plane prepped by Rob's crew, no telling how long it would have taken me to set up the plane that well, or if I ever would have gotten there at all.
we will do that for you
Idea for inclusion in another video. I read your reply to Frank Cawley in this comments section where you recommend not to take up slack in adjustment when backing off the blade for a finer shaving. Could you further discuss why. When I first took up wood working I listened to a chap who highly recommended that the slack should be taken up. Mind you that person also swears by light weight Stanley Bayley planes. Maybe the better quality Wood River planes don't require that step???
I wish I could just come and clean up all those shavings one day. That would be fun.
you are welcome to come and clean up the shavings....
Lol. First thing my foreman taught me. "What's the bloody point in sharpening your plane iron if you lay it face down on the F'ing bench ?"
Sharp edges are fragile, lay the bloody plane on its side.
The sharpening part drives me crazy... There are so many methods. You free hand on stones on water, Paul Seller free hands on diamonds plates, other dude uses a jig on special sand paper on glass, other guy uses a machine... I see pros and cons everywhere and can't decide which to stick to.
I use a Lie-Nielsen honing guide and their setup jig. With Rob's stones, I can setup my blade and sharpen in under a minute and keep amazing accuracy. I also have 3 very fine grit pieces of sandpaper on a piece of granite for an even faster touch up than the wet stones.
DTM.....yes it can be frustrating. The wood doesn't care how you sharpened the blade, just that it is sharp. There are lots of methods out there. My advice is dont chase sharpening methods, pick one and become and expert at it. Of course I think my sharpening method is the best !!!!!
Guys need to be grateful. Back in the day you had to work for free and you still had to figure most of it out on your own. You had to really pay attention to the masters and steal the skills they called it.
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Did the video editor take the day off, or something?
You know what Rob, your missing a trick here. Seems like planing is an ASMR video jus waiting to be made.
ASMR ?
@@RobCosmanWoodworking Oh no, don't tell me you know less about this than I do? Autonomous sensory meridian response...apparently. Every TH-camr worth their salt tries their hand at an ASMR vid. It's entirely possible you do a version of it without putting that label on it. What is more relaxing and stress relieving than the sound of a keen handplane?
Should a beginner spend £300 on their first plane? Seems nuts to me
Why? Smart money buys it once.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking It's a tricky one. I've been attending a hand tool woodworking night school for the last 5 years and the number of people who bounce off it is around 30%. They love the idea of woodworking but the accuracy and the fact that it doesn't come easy is not for them. You have to be really sure it's a hobby for you before you buy a £300 plane unless money is no object to you. Just my opinion as a cash strapped amateur!
Assuming your numbers are correct, then you should be able to pick up a $300 plane on the secondhand market for less than full retail value. I’d much rather buy something that holds its value, than something junky that wouldn’t.
Wax your soul 😁
You beat me to it 😉
What a great lesson to take away ... gonna frame that above my bed 🖖
if it needs it then wax it !!!!!!!!
The problem is the "32 Seconds to Sharp" vid has almost 40min. You will lose your audience there. It would be great for your channel if there was a 2nd edition of that video, shorter, more concise and to the point. More people would get the value out of it. Not trying to be a jerk, just pointing out there is an opportunity there. Rgds
Well actually its our 2nd best performing video ever so folks are watching it. However, your idea of a shorter version is a good one, think I will do that
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I'd suggest having an onscreen timer running while you sharpen, to prove your point. No running commentary from you the first time, just sharpening from start to finish. Then you can talk through the specific steps at your leisure after the first run-through.
Thumbs down. Learnt absolutely nothing about flying a plane.
but you did on hand planing !!!!!!
With a due respect, I think someone got a little too punchy on the upload button before editing was done. Always appreciate the videos and teaching, but seems sloppy. Hard to judge when you are getting taught for free, but your brand is better than this video.
What do you mean sloppy are you just looking for something to complain about
I liked the outtakes in the video. It seems like a style choice, not sloppy editing.
I believe he means the things that are typically edited out like the false starts / multiple takes, Jake putting his hand over the camera etc. that were not edited out of this video.
All....we are super busy and sometimes like this time the video doesn't get filmed early enough to go through all of our editing checks and rechecks. So we have a choice get the video out on time know it may have some warts or miss posting and dont get the video out to everyone. We choose to get the video out to you guys, we assume you can handle a few warts but would rather have the information. We are NOT video pros, we are woodworkers.
@@RobCosmanWoodworking I enjoyed the video completely.. In my mind, it was Jake playing tricks on Rob.. "Yep, sure, I'll edit that out.. (haha)". But seriously, the information given here is flawless, regardless of editing. As always, I'm very thankful for that!
One of the best! Although I still like tracks, they're finger prints of the maker. Thanks for the look.
I cant stand tracks....I want it glass smooth