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You make such legit helpful and good guides, things that I can not only use but help my friends who aren't as money savvy in the game. Thanks for posting.
I like this method a lot, as it doesn't rely on other players needing things. How much money one makes, in this partiuclar instance, is entirely (mostly) on oneself.
The best poetics to gil ratio you can get in this game, if you don't want to use the MB, is to buy the minions from Rowena's Representatives for 3 poetics each. With each minion selling for 60 gil, that's 20 gil per 1 poetic, which is over 4 times more gil you get per poetic, than using that poetic to buy say, the 660 ilevel accessories and turn them to the GC to buy Duck Bones. I calculated that buying the 660 ilevel accessories with 280 poetics, and using the 10% seals buff while giving to the GC, and then buying and selling the duck bones, only yield around 4.5 gil per poetic, instead of the 20 gil per poetic with the minion method.
please only do this if you don't want to deal with the MB. there are lots of options to buy with GC seals that will sell for more gil/GC point. since you are spending 600:350 gil ratio you're getting almost .5 gil per point and if you buy and sell mats depending on server you can get 1:1-1:3 depending on material. but if you really dont want to deal with MB at all or crafting this is a fine way to spend them.
if you do Wondrous Tails to raise lvl of your alt classes you are obliged to run dungeons and trials and raids etc anyway. do it unsync whenever you can and aside from the 500 poetics and exp worth half of current lvl as main reward (on the class which turns the sheet in; you can solve everything on your best/favourite class) you will also fill the inventory and armory with loot or tokens for items. now do yourself a favour and really pick those dungeons and trials etc. clean of any loot and aside from bosses also leave no treasure chest unopened. you will earn another hill of GC seals on the side and now spend them on duckbones and bathe in gil as well
I've been finding myself wondering what to do with my spare seals since I have all the dark matter and tickets I could ever want and already have all the items I'd like from my GC... This just pointed me to free gil. Thanks!
Your welcome and most of the minions are cheap as dirt cause of the boxes, so yeah definitely not great unless you magically get lucky with the eureka mounts.
Hey Zane, great video. One thing that I'm not sure if you mentioned but every weekly reset, shouldn't you set 40 duck bones aside and donate them to the Doman Enclave so you get more gil from them? Tell me if I'm wrong but I thought it gives you a bit more gil for that batch versus just the vendor.
Technically it's the enclaves money you're getting through the gratuity rate increase. Without the gratuity rate it would take a butt load of items to get the gil it provides. But yeah it's a good idea to set aside for the enclave.
I just toss a couple of the platinum coins from khloe or 20 of the silver (?) ones I get tons of from doing ventures every day into enclave to snag an extra 20k.
On my server they are going for 390 gil. A stack of 99 is less than what the bones would give. But it would depend on the server and demand. The bones take the hassle away and no one can ruin your profits.
Thanks...I was wondering what to do with my seals when I'm capped and don't need venture coins but I'm capped at 50k seals...how do I get to 90k? And where did you turn in the duck bones to? Just any vendor? Also sorry to hear about your dad ❤
Thanks and any vendor will do or retainer. For the other two ranks you need to level up your squadron members and do the priority missions that pop up. The link to the video is in the description and time stamp is provided to skip to the squadron section.
Sold to the vendors regardless of expansion. those will never be better turned into the grand company even with the seal buff for gil. Only turn them in if you're going for ventures or something else.
@@ZaneLionhartffxiv Also what would you say is the rough rate per hour that you earn gil through this method? I tried to do my own math on it, but I dont know if it was very accurate.
17,604 from body leg parts every 18 kills. 25,920 for accessories from duck bones every 18 runs. So 43,524 total in roughly 6 to 7ish minutes. But I could be off since math isn't my Forte.
@@ZaneLionhartffxiv And thats from Omega? If both of our math is correct then you are earning at around double the rate of what im able to make, so i wonder if i need to gear up more or level a harder hitting job than my 714iL reaper. In Alexander, 1 kill takes 40 seconds, so i reach a rate of 4433 gil per minute. In Omega, 1 kill takes me 1 minute 20 seconds, which only is 3132 a minute. I was told that mindlessly grinding for only 265k gil an hour is not worth it at all, but the 435k you seem to be able to make (if the math is correct) sounds a lot better.
You can buy "Thavnairian Horsetail" and "Alchemical Charcoal" for 10 Poetics each. Depending on market price this should be the better choice. For 280 poetic stones you can get one accessory. 1 x (1995 x 1.1) = (2194.5 / 600) x 360 = 1316.7 gil. Also you can get 28 x "Thavnairian Horsetail" or "Alchemical Charcoal". They have to sell on the market board for around 50 or more gil to be more lucrative. ((1316.7 / 28) x 1,05 max for tax) And to be honest, on my server i have never seen them drop under 70 gil for charcoal. In most cases the horsetail was always over 120 gil but sells less. Let me now if i've done a mistake =)
Maybe it's because I don't speak English that well. But have you noticed that the rings you exchange for the tokens are worth 736 GIL, but the bones are only worth 316 GIL? What's the point of that, please?
So 'this' will not get you Instance Banned for the day like your Alexander Video would've (it's an anti-bot auto-ban... if anyone is going to go attempt that, make sure you are NOT going to do anything else in Instances for the day). Mentor you can only queue into as a max level so that will never give Poetics (From the Roulette Bonus, if you land in Shiva Extreme... ofc that'll give you Poetics) Poetic Farming is easiest with a full group of BLU's destroying Aetherochemical Research Facility in about 8-10 minutes Synched because it gives 150 Tomestones each run... which you could run 2-3 in the time it takes to run one High-Level/60-70-80-90 Roulette.
I honestly would like to meet the person who has capped their instance limit legitimately. And running arf for poetics isn't ideal cause who wants to run it ad nauseam for poetics when eureka gives gil and poes for bunny fates.
If you're going for an ARR relic in a single day, you can easily hit your instance limit by spamming aurum vale over and over for light. Not that I've ever done that myself >.>
You don't get instance banned from raids. I've ran Alexander literally hundreds of times in the same day, several hours worth 34 second kill times. You get instance banned from too many dungeons. The only time you'd get blocked from something like Alexander is if you manage to hit the instance limit somewhere else that actually counts towards it.
Me and my FC have been running weekly maps in hw, 8 people with 3 maps each, about 4 hours makes us about 800k... That's not even counting extras rare items we pick up along the way and sell
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Shoutout to the one lalafell with a duck bone soup addiction making sure everybody gets paid.
Adding in that you can do Doma castle in like 3 mins and earn 11-13 drops each giving 1300+ each.
You make such legit helpful and good guides, things that I can not only use but help my friends who aren't as money savvy in the game. Thanks for posting.
Happy to help.
Thank you! Nothing I put on the market would sell even with major undercuts. I was cursed and had no income after finishing the MSQ. This saved me.
You're welcome! powder toast man lol
I like this method a lot, as it doesn't rely on other players needing things. How much money one makes, in this partiuclar instance, is entirely (mostly) on oneself.
And now we wait for all the “well, actually this strat is more profitable” comments
Yeah I'm expecting that. But what ppl don't know I've done every method possible except mb flipping.
Zane this channel is sooo helpful! I so appreciate you! Thank you!
Your welcome 😃
So glad to have something to spend trophy crystals on! Thank you!
Your welcome
The best poetics to gil ratio you can get in this game, if you don't want to use the MB, is to buy the minions from Rowena's Representatives for 3 poetics each.
With each minion selling for 60 gil, that's 20 gil per 1 poetic, which is over 4 times more gil you get per poetic, than using that poetic to buy say, the 660 ilevel accessories and turn them to the GC to buy Duck Bones.
I calculated that buying the 660 ilevel accessories with 280 poetics, and using the 10% seals buff while giving to the GC, and then buying and selling the duck bones, only yield around 4.5 gil per poetic, instead of the 20 gil per poetic with the minion method.
Interesting
it’s annoying as shit tho since you can’t mass buy the minions sadly
please only do this if you don't want to deal with the MB. there are lots of options to buy with GC seals that will sell for more gil/GC point. since you are spending 600:350 gil ratio you're getting almost .5 gil per point and if you buy and sell mats depending on server you can get 1:1-1:3 depending on material. but if you really dont want to deal with MB at all or crafting this is a fine way to spend them.
That's what I was going for. I tried other items but nothing would sell for me.
@@ZaneLionhartffxiv yep, def better to get somthing then just sit at max seals.
if you do Wondrous Tails to raise lvl of your alt classes you are obliged to run dungeons and trials and raids etc anyway.
do it unsync whenever you can and aside from the 500 poetics and exp worth half of current lvl as main reward (on the class which turns the sheet in; you can solve everything on your best/favourite class) you will also fill the inventory and armory with loot or tokens for items. now do yourself a favour and really pick those dungeons and trials etc. clean of any loot and aside from bosses also leave no treasure chest unopened.
you will earn another hill of GC seals on the side and now spend them on duckbones and bathe in gil as well
I've been finding myself wondering what to do with my spare seals since I have all the dark matter and tickets I could ever want and already have all the items I'd like from my GC... This just pointed me to free gil. Thanks!
You're welcome
me is always near cap from turn ins and now can safely empty the seals for good. yay :D
Excelente dica para farmar gil, muito obrigado.
Hey, I hope you are feeling better ^^
Thank you very much for the guide c:
Yeah I'm feeling better. And you're welcome.
Huh, I'd just been wasting my seals on the 20k loot boxes, hoping to get lucky. But this is a lot more stable money maker, so thank you. 😊
Your welcome and most of the minions are cheap as dirt cause of the boxes, so yeah definitely not great unless you magically get lucky with the eureka mounts.
The minotaur A rank in the Lochs can be solo'd you just need to distance away from it when it starts to cast Hex to cancel it out.
Oh cool thanks for the heads up.
Hey Zane, great video.
One thing that I'm not sure if you mentioned but every weekly reset, shouldn't you set 40 duck bones aside and donate them to the Doman Enclave so you get more gil from them? Tell me if I'm wrong but I thought it gives you a bit more gil for that batch versus just the vendor.
Technically it's the enclaves money you're getting through the gratuity rate increase. Without the gratuity rate it would take a butt load of items to get the gil it provides. But yeah it's a good idea to set aside for the enclave.
I just toss a couple of the platinum coins from khloe or 20 of the silver (?) ones I get tons of from doing ventures every day into enclave to snag an extra 20k.
nice! good tips. you forgot about the ACTUAL easiest way to make gil though and it involves RP.. lol
Lol
hey Zane will you have a video on crafter/gatherer prep for 7.1?
Yes I will be doing a separate video for them as well as a general prep guide as well
Don’t forget you can get priority seal passes with your squadron in your GC
For those who have em available. For beginners leveling a solo fc is faster.
@@ZaneLionhartffxiv yeah true. But for long term and those in the free trail. Plus it’s a 15% bonus.
Yeah but it's for a few hours and five per week very limiting.
@@ZaneLionhartffxiv I get the 10 per week one haha
isn't it more profitable to use the seals to buy glam prisms then sell on market board?
On my server they are going for 390 gil. A stack of 99 is less than what the bones would give. But it would depend on the server and demand. The bones take the hassle away and no one can ruin your profits.
DUCK BONES...WHOO HOO!!! MAKIN TONS OF OF GIL WITH LOTS O DUCK BONES....WHOO HOO
Thanks...I was wondering what to do with my seals when I'm capped and don't need venture coins but I'm capped at 50k seals...how do I get to 90k? And where did you turn in the duck bones to? Just any vendor?
Also sorry to hear about your dad ❤
Thanks and any vendor will do or retainer. For the other two ranks you need to level up your squadron members and do the priority missions that pop up. The link to the video is in the description and time stamp is provided to skip to the squadron section.
oh man my heart hurts knowing how many gc seals ive wasted on aetherite tickets now
Well those are important too.
I spend them on the random minion boxes lol
The majority of the minions are dirt cheap from them.
@@ZaneLionhartffxivnice for filling collections without hassle of buying them individual off marketboard
Should the body, weapons, and legs from Sigmascape v1 also be sold for gil or are they worth turning in for seals?
Sold to the vendors regardless of expansion. those will never be better turned into the grand company even with the seal buff for gil. Only turn them in if you're going for ventures or something else.
@@ZaneLionhartffxiv Also what would you say is the rough rate per hour that you earn gil through this method? I tried to do my own math on it, but I dont know if it was very accurate.
17,604 from body leg parts every 18 kills. 25,920 for accessories from duck bones every 18 runs. So 43,524 total in roughly 6 to 7ish minutes. But I could be off since math isn't my Forte.
@@ZaneLionhartffxiv And thats from Omega? If both of our math is correct then you are earning at around double the rate of what im able to make, so i wonder if i need to gear up more or level a harder hitting job than my 714iL reaper.
In Alexander, 1 kill takes 40 seconds, so i reach a rate of 4433 gil per minute. In Omega, 1 kill takes me 1 minute 20 seconds, which only is 3132 a minute.
I was told that mindlessly grinding for only 265k gil an hour is not worth it at all, but the 435k you seem to be able to make (if the math is correct) sounds a lot better.
@captaincrabcake4232 actually it's from the burden of the father. Once we can reduce the sigma scape to under a minute we can replace Alexander.
This video is a month old so I assume it no longer works at this point lol
No it's a method that's been around for a while, So it still works.
You can buy "Thavnairian Horsetail" and "Alchemical Charcoal" for 10 Poetics each. Depending on market price this should be the better choice.
For 280 poetic stones you can get one accessory. 1 x (1995 x 1.1) = (2194.5 / 600) x 360 = 1316.7 gil.
Also you can get 28 x "Thavnairian Horsetail" or "Alchemical Charcoal". They have to sell on the market board for around 50 or more gil to be more lucrative. ((1316.7 / 28) x 1,05 max for tax)
And to be honest, on my server i have never seen them drop under 70 gil for charcoal. In most cases the horsetail was always over 120 gil but sells less.
Let me now if i've done a mistake =)
This is a non-market board method. And you're better off turning them into ingots and lumber for making shields for GC seals.
Maybe it's because I don't speak English that well. But have you noticed that the rings you exchange for the tokens are worth 736 GIL, but the bones are only worth 316 GIL?
What's the point of that, please?
The bones sell for 360 gil each. The rings give enough seals to get enough bones to beat out the price of the rings boots hands head pieces.
@@ZaneLionhartffxiv ah, now i see! thanks, sir!
@gustlmeixner2778 always a pleasure to help.
Anyone know many runs of Alexander it takes to cap seals?
I think it's 15 to 18 runs.
So sell duck bones to vendors?
Yes or through your retainer whoever's closer.
@@ZaneLionhartffxiv I'll check that out, thanks!
@@ZaneLionhartffxiv Immortal Flames HQ in Ul'dah is best IMHO, because next vendor (Rianne) is across the street. the other GC are more isolated :(
True
@@rivenoak I believe there's a merchant around the corner from Maestrom HQ but yeah, immortal flames is closer
So 'this' will not get you Instance Banned for the day like your Alexander Video would've (it's an anti-bot auto-ban... if anyone is going to go attempt that, make sure you are NOT going to do anything else in Instances for the day).
Mentor you can only queue into as a max level so that will never give Poetics (From the Roulette Bonus, if you land in Shiva Extreme... ofc that'll give you Poetics)
Poetic Farming is easiest with a full group of BLU's destroying Aetherochemical Research Facility in about 8-10 minutes Synched because it gives 150 Tomestones each run... which you could run 2-3 in the time it takes to run one High-Level/60-70-80-90 Roulette.
I honestly would like to meet the person who has capped their instance limit legitimately. And running arf for poetics isn't ideal cause who wants to run it ad nauseam for poetics when eureka gives gil and poes for bunny fates.
If you're going for an ARR relic in a single day, you can easily hit your instance limit by spamming aurum vale over and over for light. Not that I've ever done that myself >.>
I don't remember what I did for light. Think I just did ifrit which was a trial not a dungeon. But still didn't hit the cap lol.
You don't get instance banned from raids. I've ran Alexander literally hundreds of times in the same day, several hours worth 34 second kill times.
You get instance banned from too many dungeons. The only time you'd get blocked from something like Alexander is if you manage to hit the instance limit somewhere else that actually counts towards it.
Me and my FC have been running weekly maps in hw, 8 people with 3 maps each, about 4 hours makes us about 800k... That's not even counting extras rare items we pick up along the way and sell
dont worry, we all do our best to forget about stormblood too
You are writing the wrong game in the game field. "Complete Edition" is not it
Unfortunately they don't have a dawntrail option.
You could undercut Peacock Ore by half the price and still come out better than Duck bones lol
Well my server is selling them less than 360. And it's cheaper to buy the ingots or get them through desynthesis.
No point if it takes weeks to sell even a single 99 stack of ore. Duck Bone can be sold to vendor instantly.
@@ZaneLionhartffxiv you get 1.25 gil per seal at current prices on the mb, 0.5 gil per seal on duck bones, theres alot of undercut room
Can you get to the point faster feels so rambling
There was a lot to explain so nothing about this video was me rambling.
Also they said the item they're targeting immediately. Everything else is just methods of getting that target item as many ways as possible
Thank you