Love your content. You also have a very soothing voice makes for a very chilled experience. Can't wait for the next one. All the way from sunny 🏴
Some years ago, I bought my brother one of these rifles. A few months ago he brought it over and we chrono`d it and adjusted the trigger. I don`t remember the numbers, but it was very consistent, and the trigger ended up being about 20 ounces. The accuracy with 15.9 JSB pellets was wonderful. Don`t be fooled by the plain jane appearance of this rifle, they are shooters.
@razor1962 I have a FWB 124D and a HW 35es, both in .177. They both shoot well off a Weibad bag, but if you want exceptional accuracy, you have to use the artillery hold with no influencing pressure anywhere. I use AA 10.3's, and punch out sharpie dots with both guns.
I bought one of these 3years ago and a diana 280 compact 12 years ago both in .177 and they have never let me down. I use them both for hunting here in Scotland. I have never bothered to chrono them but what i do know is they both kill rabbits pigeon squirrels ect out to 45 yads. Both have not been tuned but i sent the 280 for a full service last year with no notable drop in performance since. I also have hw 80 35 77 and both my diana models are every bit as good if not better.
I've got three different 34's that I have somehow accumulated in my German springer collection It's not my favourite, though much copiec It has two design flaws, firstly the bevelled breech can clip the occasional pellet tail unless you are super diligent or use something to slightly recess it...but much weirder is the transfer port, some German, correctly assumed that the best place to have it collect from the piston centre...however, to get it to then output to the barrel that isn't central, he drilled a dog leg transfer port, this, is not only worse than picking up from behind the barrel, but requires three quarters of an inch of steel to do ..reducing stroke...and power yet further If you fill the entire transfer port with liquid metal, then drill a 4mm one straight through, with no other change you will find 10% power, if you mill the bottom inside of the compression tube down by 5mm (obviously this isnt easy)..viola! another 15%... Doing this you can run a lighter spring and/or piston, get a much nicer firing cycle and lose no power at all.
@@razor1962A tapered breech is intended to allow a rifle to accept a wide assortment of pellets. Best to enjoy the convenience and buy a quality Pell Seat. 😉👍
Have to say the cocking stroke sounds terrible. Sounds almost dry, you can hear the spring moving over the guide. Needs a good set of Delrin guides, piston liner & proper lubrication. An observation about your tuning. I notice you use a heavy spring tar. If the guides are correctly sized & you can fit a piston liner then you should have no need of heavy tar. You should be aiming to have the least amount of lubrication as possible. I use a thin coat of Moly on my springs, & I do mean thin, just enough to facilitate smoothness & because I have Welsh Willy or Shauny guides my guns have no buzz & a gentle dull thud when firing. Heavy tar can slow the firing cycle down. The rule to follow for all lubrication on a springer is just enough to do the job. Looking forward to the tuning videos.👍
@@razor1962 The T06 trigger is a fantastic trigger but can be improved if you are willing to have a go. Tony Leach a legendry Airgun tuner has an excellent video on adjusting the T06. Very detailed & it takes a bit of bravery but it really transforms the trigger. th-cam.com/video/XUlAZRTtzBM/w-d-xo.html
Hi Kevin. Had a bit of an off day at the range today. Shooting my HW97 in .22. The gun is good, but the guy behind the trigger, just wasn’t on it today. Perhaps a little too much coffee. It happens sometimes. 😊
Fantastic not sure I can make it at 7PM but I definitely be watching at some point. Thank You for all you do!! This is a Diana 34 EMS correct? @@razor1962
Im sitting here watching your video thinking, I have one of those rifle somewhere in the house. I remember it being a 34, but I don’t remember whether it is a .177 or .22. However, your video makes me want to dig it out. It is well protected in a plastic gun case. How can I tell if I have a T06 trigger?
I have just got a diana 280 in .177 not my favourite cal but it's extremely accurate and is around the 11ftlbs. It's going to have a full tune to make it as smooth as silk with no twang. Look forward to see the improvement on you're rifle kevin.
Hi Kevin, I hope you're feeling much better soon. I don't think there's any doubt about it. Your Diana air rifle you have there is quality kit. I think it may look a little bland, maybe because of the slender stock, though there's no questioning its performance. It does aggravate me, though, how we buy air rifles from quality manufacturers like Diana and Weihrauch, only to then have to dismantle them to sleeve their components because of too much play, etc. Surely, they are sat there in their large factories and they wouldn't have to go to the ends of the earth to add a few thousandths on a piston guide or machine a piston tube a little narrower? They are there, their machines at the ready, and if they did this, their products they produce could be genius instead of nearly there. I don't understand it. You wouldn't run a marathon, then stop two miles from home and pack up. Neither would we buy a new car, then jack it up and begin dismantling it. It doesn't make sense to me at all. The only thing I can think of is that, they must decide what they are prepared to manufacture and to the degree they are prepared to do it to. If we want better, and we do, then that is on our backs. In their eyes, they have fulfilled what are prepared to do. When I was young, people had a passion to make something they had passion for and were proud. Now, it seems to be that if something will do, it will do. That's not the attitude I'd expect from these quality manufacturers. Best wishes to you, Kevin, and thank you for your videos.
Hi Ian, I understand your point, and while I can't say for certain, I will suggest that the guns as they come from the factory are just fine. It's us as perfectionists who demand more from them. I liken myself to the guy who buys a brand new sports car and immediately begins swapping out factory parts for performance parts. Is it necessary? No, but it sure is fun to see what kind of improvements in performance we can obtain. Thanks as always, my friend.
@razor1962 Hi Kevin, Thank you for your reply, it's nice to hear from you. Yes, I see your point, and it absolutely, as ever, makes sense. I've always tried and be seen as someone who sees things from all angles and, in this case may have been incorrect? We always like our belongings, especially our air rifles to be working as well as they possibly can. I'm sure Weihrauch and Diana have fulfilled their objectives in how their air rifles should and do perform, and it is upto us if we want them to go the extra mile or two. Maybe if they did this, it would push their prices up and may not make good business sense? Thank you for your advice, Kevin It's always good to hear and take in another point of view, one that I hadn't considered. Thank you and take care, my friend.
i think it definitely makes a difference where the gun is rested as closer to the trigger guard will project more weight at the barrel and reduce the chance of barrel jumping when fired particularly with a 16 ftlb riffle but every riffle is different so it just down to experimenting but you are a good shot for an old timer with a new gun ;o) keep em coming bud. are those hn ftt pellets 5.0mm, 5.51mm, 5.52 or 5.53 mm my old hw 97 likes the 5.53 and i've heard they like the 5.54mm but theose are hard to get in the u.k.
Hey friend, did you change your microphone from what you normally use? You sound funny like your talking through a tube in this one. Usually your audio is very clear
@@razor1962 Possibly your microphone giving up the ghost? The audio has noticeably deteriorated, this is not meant as negative criticism as I'm really enjoying the airgun content. I'm off to do some target shooting myself now. Cheers!
Hi Kevin Which pellets have you tried for this rifle? Actually , it must shoot one hole groups at 25yards. I think its a good idea to have more groups with this rifle at 25yards using different pellets , to find the magic pellet of this rifle.
So far, I've tried a half dozen different pellets, and the H&N FTTs performed the best. I'll be experimenting with other pellets over time. Thanks for watching, my friend.
@@razor1962 and also , its normal for springer airguns to separate their group It happens sometimes_ Maybe because of the temperature changes in the cylinder... I always enjoy your videos - thanks And god bless
@@razor1962Any time I have a rifle that thrives on FTT's I try the Crosman Premier Hollow Points next. For some reason they tend to produce similar characteristics ? 🤷🏼♂️ At a more economical price point ! 😃👍 Just been noticing this for about a year now... 🤔
Hey Kevin, Thanks for this shooting video of the Diana model 34. She is definitely a beautiful airgun. Is the trigger so light because it was adjusted in the factory? Such accuracy and consistency! I'm surprised that the trigger is so crisp. I also like the fact that it puts out decent fpe for humane harvesting of small game. Stay Safe. Be Well. GOD BLESS.
Hi Ken, I bought the 34 used, so I don't know who may have adjusted the trigger, whether it was at the factory or after it left. i honestly can't say. It seems ideal to me, so I have no plans to change a thing.🙂 the 34 would make an awesome small game getter. Thanks as always, my friend.
I'm sorry, I have no experience with this rifle. I'm betting that it's made in China. If that's the case, quality can be spotty, but overall, most owners enjoy them. I have a thumbhole variant of the Ruger Air Hawk Elite, made in China, and it's been tuned. It'll group pretty well at 25 yards. Not a bad gun for the money. Thanks for watching.
Love watching your channel since I bought a HW97KT it's really enjoyable. Is this a brand new gun you just bought and if it is why do you find it nessasary to put a kit in it right away, what's wrong with shooting it the way it comes. The reason I'm asking this is because with me just spending over 800 dollars for my 97 it shouldn't need a kit in it for that much money to make it better. Everybody talks so highly about how great these guns are from Germany well they should come shooting great with out putting a kit in them for that amount of money don't you agree.
Hi John. Putting a kit in a gun right off the bat is not something that I recommend for folks. There's no need for it. A new Weihrauch will settle in and smooth out all by itself. For me, I'm like the guy who buys a brand new sports car and immediately begins changing out parts for performance parts. Is it necessary? Absolutely not. It's just part of the fun for me. Thanks for watching John.
Historically the Best Value comes down to a rugged, reliable rifle at a Fair Price. Usually it's best for the consumer to sort out the details as there are too many variables and individual preferences for any one Manufacturer to bear the financial burden of stock inventory. Especially when dealing with plastic polymers that would simply dry and whither on the shelves. These rifles aren't built for any one individual market. The production numbers are mind boggling, and the overall investment is considerable. Production costs would skyrocket ! 🤯 A Good Value (Accurate, Rugged, Reliable) at a Fair, Reasonable price... 🤷🏼♂️ Individual Esoteric details are too personal to interpret on the production floor. Tuning is just one more element of the Hobby and adds a huge sense of Personal Accomplishment and Far Greater Insight into "Your" rifle. 😉
@@JohnVentarino-ey5lnCertain details like deburring metal work, slide & pivot lubes, and buttoning "Can" prevent any undue, unnecessary wear on a Shiny New rifle before it ever gets started, honestly preserving your investment. Any time you can prevent wear before the fact it's probably worth the added effort. 😉
Evening Kevin!
Hey Nibs!
Love your content. You also have a very soothing voice makes for a very chilled experience. Can't wait for the next one. All the way from sunny 🏴
Thanks, Geof. So glad to hear that you're enjoying the channel.
Keep em coming Kevin always good to watch. Thanks
Always a pleasure, Dave.
That good shooting when you are not well.great video.
Thanks Iwan.
Another great video can't wait to get my hands-on one of those Diana 34S
Thank you Frank.
Some years ago, I bought my brother one of these rifles. A few months ago he brought it over and we chrono`d it and adjusted the trigger. I don`t remember the numbers, but it was very consistent, and the trigger ended up being about 20 ounces. The accuracy with 15.9 JSB pellets was wonderful. Don`t be fooled by the plain jane appearance of this rifle, they are shooters.
It's an incredibly accurate rifle. Just awesome.
Thanks for watching, David.
@razor1962 I have a FWB 124D and a HW 35es, both in .177. They both shoot well off a Weibad bag, but if you want exceptional accuracy, you have to use the artillery hold with no influencing pressure anywhere. I use AA 10.3's, and punch out sharpie dots with both guns.
I bought one of these 3years ago and a diana 280 compact 12 years ago both in .177 and they have never let me down. I use them both for hunting here in Scotland. I have never bothered to chrono them but what i do know is they both kill rabbits pigeon squirrels ect out to 45 yads. Both have not been tuned but i sent the 280 for a full service last year with no notable drop in performance since. I also have hw 80 35 77 and both my diana models are every bit as good if not better.
Diana builds a quality air rifle. No doubt about it. Thanks for watching, my friend.
I've got three different 34's that I have somehow accumulated in my German springer collection
It's not my favourite, though much copiec
It has two design flaws, firstly the bevelled breech can clip the occasional pellet tail unless you are super diligent or use something to slightly recess it...but much weirder is the transfer port, some German, correctly assumed that the best place to have it collect from the piston centre...however, to get it to then output to the barrel that isn't central, he drilled a dog leg transfer port, this, is not only worse than picking up from behind the barrel, but requires three quarters of an inch of steel to do ..reducing stroke...and power yet further
If you fill the entire transfer port with liquid metal, then drill a 4mm one straight through, with no other change you will find 10% power, if you mill the bottom inside of the compression tube down by 5mm (obviously this isnt easy)..viola! another 15%...
Doing this you can run a lighter spring and/or piston, get a much nicer firing cycle and lose no power at all.
My .22, 34 with the TO6 trigger is an incredibly accurate rifle. Interesting info on the transfer port. Wondering what the point was....
@@razor1962A tapered breech is intended to allow a rifle to accept a wide assortment of pellets. Best to enjoy the convenience and buy a quality Pell Seat. 😉👍
That was a great group my friend.
Thanks John.
Tnx f sharing
Look forward to a tune video
Thanks, Kris. This rifle will definitely respond well to a little TLC.
Have to say the cocking stroke sounds terrible. Sounds almost dry, you can hear the spring moving over the guide. Needs a good set of Delrin guides, piston liner & proper lubrication.
An observation about your tuning. I notice you use a heavy spring tar. If the guides are correctly sized & you can fit a piston liner then you should have no need of heavy tar. You should be aiming to have the least amount of lubrication as possible.
I use a thin coat of Moly on my springs, & I do mean thin, just enough to facilitate smoothness & because I have Welsh Willy or Shauny guides my guns have no buzz & a gentle dull thud when firing.
Heavy tar can slow the firing cycle down. The rule to follow for all lubrication on a springer is just enough to do the job.
Looking forward to the tuning videos.👍
Thank you, my friend. Good advice is always welcome.
@@razor1962 The T06 trigger is a fantastic trigger but can be improved if you are willing to have a go. Tony Leach a legendry Airgun tuner has an excellent video on adjusting the T06. Very detailed & it takes a bit of bravery but it really transforms the trigger.
th-cam.com/video/XUlAZRTtzBM/w-d-xo.html
@@50caliber29 Thank you. I'll check out that video.
Good shooting 🙂👍. Those springer's are hold and trigger sensitive, lol.
That's what makes 'em so addictive... They have their own personalities.
Thanks as always, my friend.
Yup... 😂
Hi Kevin. Had a bit of an off day at the range today. Shooting my HW97 in .22. The gun is good, but the guy behind the trigger, just wasn’t on it today. Perhaps a little too much coffee. It happens sometimes. 😊
Oh, I know Steve. Everyone has those days. Thanks as always, my friend.
Nice Kevin😁👍
Thanks, Ron.
Hello sir Any plans on tuning this rifle? I sure would like to see you do it. Thanks for all your time
As a matter of fact, that's this week's video. Tune in Saturday 7pm Eastern Standard Time.
Fantastic not sure I can make it at 7PM but I definitely be watching at some point.
Thank You for all you do!! This is a Diana 34 EMS correct? @@razor1962
Im sitting here watching your video thinking, I have one of those rifle somewhere in the house. I remember it being a 34, but I don’t remember whether it is a .177 or .22. However, your video makes me want to dig it out. It is well protected in a plastic gun case. How can I tell if I have a T06 trigger?
Wonderful rifle, Victor. I hope that you give yours some trigger time. You won't be sorry.
Nice shooting as usually
Thank you, my friend.
Sounds a bit dry when you break it. it definitely will benefit from a tune can't wait to see how it turns out.
I think it'll benefit greatly from a little tlc.
Thanks for watching, my friend.
I purchased a Model 34 as a 17 year old kid back in 88. I regret selling it decades ago.
The good news is that they can easily be found on the used market.
Thanks for watching, Doc.
@@razor1962 Great video by the way!
Excellent.
I have just got a diana 280 in .177 not my favourite cal but it's extremely accurate and is around the 11ftlbs. It's going to have a full tune to make it as smooth as silk with no twang. Look forward to see the improvement on you're rifle kevin.
Thanks, Robert. Sounds like we both enjoy working on our rifles. Best of luck with your project, my friend.
Hi Kevin,
I hope you're feeling much better soon. I don't think there's any doubt about it. Your Diana air rifle you have there is
quality kit. I think it may look a little bland, maybe because of the slender stock, though there's no questioning its performance.
It does aggravate me, though, how we buy air rifles from quality manufacturers like Diana and Weihrauch, only to then have to dismantle them to sleeve their components because of too much play, etc.
Surely, they are sat there in their large factories and they wouldn't have to go to the ends of the earth to add a few thousandths on a piston guide or machine a piston tube a little narrower?
They are there, their machines at the ready, and if they did this, their products they produce could be genius instead of nearly there.
I don't understand it. You wouldn't run a marathon, then stop two miles from home and pack up. Neither would we buy a new car, then jack it up and begin dismantling it. It doesn't make sense to me at all.
The only thing I can think of is that, they must decide what they are prepared to manufacture and to the degree they are prepared to do it to. If we want better, and we do, then that is on our backs. In their eyes, they have fulfilled what are prepared to do.
When I was young, people had a passion to make something they had passion for and were proud. Now, it seems to be that if something will do, it will do.
That's not the attitude I'd expect from these quality manufacturers.
Best wishes to you, Kevin, and thank you for your videos.
Hi Ian,
I understand your point, and while I can't say for certain, I will suggest that the guns as they come from the factory are just fine. It's us as perfectionists who demand more from them. I liken myself to the guy who buys a brand new sports car and immediately begins swapping out factory parts for performance parts. Is it necessary? No, but it sure is fun to see what kind of improvements in performance we can obtain.
Thanks as always, my friend.
@razor1962 Hi Kevin,
Thank you for your reply, it's nice to hear from you.
Yes, I see your point, and it absolutely, as ever, makes sense. I've always tried and be seen as someone who sees things from all angles and, in this case may have been incorrect?
We always like our belongings, especially our air rifles to be working as well as they possibly can. I'm sure Weihrauch and Diana have fulfilled their objectives in how their air rifles should and do perform, and it is upto us if we want them to go the extra mile or two.
Maybe if they did this, it would push their prices up and may not make good business sense?
Thank you for your advice, Kevin
It's always good to hear and take in another point of view, one that I hadn't considered.
Thank you and take care, my friend.
Hey Kevin so it’s a little noisy a little lube and cleaning .. shoots nice !
Don't worry, Peter. I've got big plans for this rifle. Hopefully, it'll still be a shooter after I tune it....😄
Good shooting buddy. Love your videos and keep up with the great work. Happy hair cut by the way 😊 ATB Norm
Thanks, Norm. Much appreciated.
i think it definitely makes a difference where the gun is rested as closer to the trigger guard will project more weight at the barrel and reduce the chance of barrel jumping when fired particularly with a 16 ftlb riffle but every riffle is different so it just down to experimenting but you are a good shot for an old timer with a new gun ;o) keep em coming bud. are those hn ftt pellets 5.0mm, 5.51mm, 5.52 or 5.53 mm my old hw 97 likes the 5.53 and i've heard they like the 5.54mm but theose are hard to get in the u.k.
Yes, my 97 loves the H&N 5.53 FTTs.
Thanks for watching, my friend.
these Springers are indeed unpredictable.
They each have their own personality. Thanks for watching, my friend.
Hey friend, did you change your microphone from what you normally use? You sound funny like your talking through a tube in this one. Usually your audio is very clear
No, same microphone. It's a glitch in my editing software. Very annoying.
@@razor1962 Possibly your microphone giving up the ghost? The audio has noticeably deteriorated, this is not meant as negative criticism as I'm really enjoying the airgun content. I'm off to do some target shooting myself now. Cheers!
Hi Kevin
Which pellets have you tried for this rifle?
Actually , it must shoot one hole groups at 25yards.
I think its a good idea to have more groups with this rifle at 25yards using different pellets , to find the magic pellet of this rifle.
So far, I've tried a half dozen different pellets, and the H&N FTTs performed the best. I'll be experimenting with other pellets over time.
Thanks for watching, my friend.
@@razor1962 and also , its normal for springer airguns to separate their group
It happens sometimes_ Maybe because of the temperature changes in the cylinder...
I always enjoy your videos - thanks
And god bless
@@razor1962Any time I have a rifle that thrives on FTT's I try the Crosman Premier Hollow Points next. For some reason they tend to produce similar characteristics ? 🤷🏼♂️
At a more economical price point ! 😃👍
Just been noticing this for about a year now... 🤔
Hey Kevin,
Thanks for this shooting video of the Diana model 34. She is definitely a beautiful airgun.
Is the trigger so light because it was adjusted in the factory? Such accuracy and consistency! I'm surprised that the trigger is so crisp. I also like the fact that it puts out decent fpe for humane harvesting of small game.
Stay Safe. Be Well. GOD BLESS.
Hi Ken, I bought the 34 used, so I don't know who may have adjusted the trigger, whether it was at the factory or after it left. i honestly can't say. It seems ideal to me, so I have no plans to change a thing.🙂 the 34 would make an awesome small game getter.
Thanks as always, my friend.
🐶🙂👍👋🏻
Have any opinions on the ruger air magnum in .22
I'm sorry, I have no experience with this rifle. I'm betting that it's made in China. If that's the case, quality can be spotty, but overall, most owners enjoy them. I have a thumbhole variant of the Ruger Air Hawk Elite, made in China, and it's been tuned. It'll group pretty well at 25 yards. Not a bad gun for the money.
Thanks for watching.
Love watching your channel since I bought a HW97KT it's really enjoyable. Is this a brand new gun you just bought and if it is why do you find it nessasary to put a kit in it right away, what's wrong with shooting it the way it comes. The reason I'm asking this is because with me just spending over 800 dollars for my 97 it shouldn't need a kit in it for that much money to make it better. Everybody talks so highly about how great these guns are from Germany well they should come shooting great with out putting a kit in them for that amount of money don't you agree.
Hi John. Putting a kit in a gun right off the bat is not something that I recommend for folks. There's no need for it. A new Weihrauch will settle in and smooth out all by itself.
For me, I'm like the guy who buys a brand new sports car and immediately begins changing out parts for performance parts. Is it necessary? Absolutely not. It's just part of the fun for me.
Thanks for watching John.
@@razor1962 thank you because I'm thinking I have to buy a kit and put it in right away for it to shoot good. I understand now.
Historically the Best Value comes down to a rugged, reliable rifle at a Fair Price.
Usually it's best for the consumer to sort out the details as there are too many variables and individual preferences for any one Manufacturer to bear the financial burden of stock inventory.
Especially when dealing with plastic polymers that would simply dry and whither on the shelves.
These rifles aren't built for any one individual market. The production numbers are mind boggling, and the overall investment is considerable.
Production costs would skyrocket ! 🤯
A Good Value (Accurate, Rugged, Reliable) at a Fair, Reasonable price... 🤷🏼♂️
Individual Esoteric details are too personal to interpret on the production floor.
Tuning is just one more element of the Hobby and adds a huge sense of Personal Accomplishment and Far Greater Insight into "Your" rifle. 😉
@@JohnVentarino-ey5lnCertain details like deburring metal work, slide & pivot lubes, and buttoning "Can" prevent any undue, unnecessary wear on a Shiny New rifle before it ever gets started, honestly preserving your investment. Any time you can prevent wear before the fact it's probably worth the added effort. 😉
@marcmyers1465 Marc can you please explain in bit more in detail for me. On the 3rd I'm getting my scope rings.
Usually I just prop it up on my bedroll. 😉 Now, if the Skwerls 🐿️🐿️🐿️ sneak up on me at night... We Got A Problem ! 😳
Lol...🤣
@@razor1962I'm gonna have those nightmares again... aren't I ? 🐿️🐿️🐿️🙀🐿️🐿️🐿️