A lien for doing what?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 มิ.ย. 2024
- He hired a contractor, and he said the contractor didn’t do the work. But what he did do is place a lien on his property. It’s a weird mess, and that’s why the call went out to Help Me Howard with Patrick Fraser.
The contractor filed a fraudulent document. Given the dollar amount, he should be criminally charged.
As well as civilly liable, Ten years in prison seems fair.
They need to make fraudulent contractors a criminal act and arrest them for felony scamming.
I would sue that company .
How many others have fallen victim to this company should be investigated.
That's one shady contractor, especially by not providing proof of materials purchased.
Sue the company. But get a lawyer that specializes in that field.
*I wonder how many other victims have lost their property by the scam this contractor is doing*
How people are suffering in silence with the same treatment from A to Z general contracting of Miami.
the contractor should be in prison for fraud. and every lien they ever issued should be investigated for more charges and more victims to be made whole.
That solves it for this victim but they will just move on to others until they are stopped.
Obviously done out of spite when he cancelled the contract. The best thing to come out of this is exposing the contractor by name.
Misuse of the courts. Should be charged.
As soon as he found out about the lein he should've IMMEDIATELY looked into it and hired an attorney... not forget about it... I would've cancelled the contract after 6 months of nothing being done to my home. Why would he wait 2yrs to finally realize he needed to cancel the contract & financing and find another contractor?.. he should sue the company for the trouble they caused him.. I daggone sure would've
sounds like he should have kept up communication with his bank as well.
Attorneys cost $$. I get that it’s everyone’s go-to advice (I’ve been a lawyer and judge for close to 30 years so I really get it) but it isn’t a free service. This man couldn’t afford the repairs he needed so he damn sure couldn’t afford a 10-15k retainer. You might get a free initial consult, but other than person injury cases, attorneys don’t work on a contingency fee basis; you pay up front and as you go if required. He did what he could. Could he have done it faster? Sure. Better? No. Should the state AG investigate this low life company? Absolutely. That’s what people should be asking to be done on his (and likely, others’, behalf)
You need to hire someone to help you when you get a lein even if it's not a lawyer.
It seems far too easy to just file a lien. Nobody should be able to assert you owe them money without first proving it in court. Go to court to get a judgement to file a lien.
Sounds like a good torturous interference lawsuit right there. When I built my house I got slapped with a lien because a contractor, who I had paid, never paid his supplier. Fortunately, I had canceled checks and was able to get the supplier to lift the lien.
Just another scammer. There has to be more protection for homeowners.
Make a complaint to the State Contracting Board.
Shut down that business.
27K to replace 15 small windows? Thats a 12K job 😂
The two doors are the extra $15k.
Doors as well
Thank you Howard and Team!
As a lawyer, let me point out that it's a great idea to file a bar complaint against the attorney before doing anything. An attorney can't file a lawsuit without doing due diligence to assure the suit is not frivolous. Just make sure you have good grounds for the complaint.
We really hate bar complaints. We can fight lay people and other attorneys, but with a bar complaint, we're up against the Florida Bar and the Supreme Court of the State of Florida.
There is no indication that an attorney was involved. Anybody can fill out the papers and file a lien.
Hats off to WSVN! Nothing works like light shed on deception! You and other stations who perform such work for your communities have my respect.
Crooked contractors, imagine that.
Did some research on this company. They are what is referred to as a gypsy scam company and are under investigation.
Replacing 15 windows and 2 doors….$27,000? And the “victim” signed a contract agreeing to that price? I can see how the contractor thought the homeowner could easily be scammed. Pricing each window; each door at $1,600 was the test scam. Geesh!
What a blessing this news show is. You guys are not only helping the consumer but everyone who watches learns. More stations should do this
Howard has been the greatest thing on the news doing good for decades, Patrick is fantastic for keeping the help going.
Five words...SUE.FOR.BREACH.OF.CONTRACT!
Contractor needs to be put out of business. I wonder how many more fraudulent liens they have against homeowners??? Something for the news crew to dig into!!!!!
They just need to search the courthouse records - probably even online for the whole world to see.
Well, never sign a contract with ASAP! “ As soon as possible” . Get a date.
How about the government helping this guy. Why isn't the contractor in jail
Probably donation impared.
Civil matters usually don't get you jail......at least not right away!
Time for a personal visit to the contractor.
At that price even if you did get the windows that contractor ought to be cited for stealing.
ASAP means as soon as possible, that’s not a good think to have in your contract regarding when the work is going to be done 😂, it can mean 10 years from now.
good point. so the scam was planned in advance. a good contract lawyer would/shout have caught that. But now a more important question: how many OTHER clients are being hit with liens???
RETALIATE Put a lien on his company, his home, his mother's home, his wife's car, and daughter's personal property. Hey, it's the south states "AMERICAN WAY" or means of justice
They didn't buy any materials. They were ripping this guy off and it took publicly exposing that to get them to back off. Hopefully they end up in jail.
NOT sure Who keeps giving these HACK Contractors Money ? Put them out of Business. State Attorney General’s are NOT doing their J-O-B-S. Period. 🤪👎
Sometimes contractors try to cheat homeowners. Lucky thing the homeowner didn't give them a downpayment.
I'm also surprised that he didn't have to put down a retainer or deposit either. 🤔
This publicity will kill the contractors business. Pure greedy selfishness is so so stupid.
You are damn right to sue their a-- off, You have grounds.
I have had leins up north here in Cannuckistan. All that needs to be done is to send a notice to take action. All actions involving leins are dealt with in the supreme court which will cost about $5,000 to initiate fifteen years ago. It will probably cost more today. I have done this on my own several times for fraudlient leins.
That's the problem of the suing culture, it never ends in justice. If it's "illegal" to place a lien when no work has been done, then they should be barred for 5 years before they can submit another lien.
Well done guys , another consumer saved from a predator .
Given they couldn't show the mythical doors or windows when asked , a simple request easily satisfied , it's clear they never existed.
This lien constituted either extortion or fraud as there were no grounds for it . Did they draw down the financing and use the money elsewhere ? That's what it sounds like , thereby using the lien merely as a smokescreen .
I understand the utility of contractor liens , but abuse of the system should be investigated by the state and not be left to the consumer to pay attorneys to go through civil court .
$21k for windows and doors. Lol.
Cheap.
i know thats what i was thinking i work in real estate and had all the windows replaced. unless your custom ordering huge bay windows or custom sizes windows are like a few hundred bucks a piece. i highly doubt he was buying custom fancy ones should have been like 7-8k in windows, and you can find people who will install them for maybe a g total
This is way overpriced! I agree with Zesolodar said.
A guy like Don Corleone would take care of this faster than a court.
Sue them for fraud. Press charges. Everything. This is a scam and he needs to stand up.
Local news! Doing the best news in the country.
I hope he sues thrm for attorneys cost and pain and suffering. Since they havve the doors and windows they can show reciepts for time of their pirchases and explain why there were never installed
Releasing the lean does not absolve the company from putting a fraudulent lean on his house. A good counsel will sue for the amount of the lean plus costs and fees... and he will win.
Lien on me...when you're not strong...
Liens don’t just go away. What was this guy thinking?
Four hours to drill a hole. The house isn't the problem. He doesn't know what a masonry bit is.
It's pretty astonishing that a building contractor would do something dishonest. It's not like they're the lowest creatures God gave breath. Not at all.
They still stole the balance of the money he already paid.
Lawyer up and sue them anyway. They made his life hell.
This contractor did not drop the lein in good faith, he dropped it because he knew he was caught committing fraud.
It’s the most hate I have ever experienced by those that claim unity is what will work - your plight is not my plight beacuse it’s not my culture to appropriate! That simple
sounds pretty floridian to me
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Thia has been going a lot in South Florida... what they then do is they put a lien and foreclose the property at the county level the resale the deed... how I know? It happend to my mother in law
And nothing will be done with the contractor. They'll just pull the same scam with another person.
ASAP = August, September a possibility.
If you want to see bad terms in a contract, then read a home improvement contract from Home Depot. The terms allow Home Depot to assign the contract to any other company without the homeowner's agreement. The terms also allow Home Depot, a subcontractor and/or any of its employees or hirelings to file a lien on your property -- even if Home Depot has been paid in full.
So sick of all these scammers. On a side note, I find it sad they have to have bars on their windows.
Fraud of that dollar amount is a Felony. Is this the first time they’ve scammed a client like this or just the first time they’ve been caught publicly? 🤔
The contractor doesn't have any proof he did the job.
Thank God for Patrick Fraser.
Respectfully... If you can't cut a check for 27k sell the property.
Crazy 🤪
not enough, this compay needs to be shutdown and the owner needs to go to Jail. Fraudulent claim.
Felony fraud
You cant put a lein behind you, get a solicitor for heavens sake
I had a guy who owns bunch of rentals we did a large job for him 12.5k we turned in our invoice an he sent us q check back for 8.5k said thats all he was goin to pay etc. We placed q mechanic lein on the home an didnt take long he sold that home 3 months later an we got paid with interest an ruined his name so before you run on your part you better think it thru
Maybe he felt justified. How much was the initial contract for? If there were cost overruns, were they approved beforehand? Were there any approved change orders? Were there any disputed or unapproved change orders, that you thought were approved? Was the job delayed and did your client lose revenue as a result? If so, what was the nature of the delay, and whose fault was it? Yes, he could have been a bad-faith client, but the opposite could also be true. Did he state why he didn't pay the whole invoice? 🤔🤔🤔 Sounds like there may be more to the story.
Wouldn't show they had the doors and windows but basically as a courtesy would forgo the lien. Sounds like fraud to me and should be investigated. If they filed for the lien they submitted to a court they were owed money when they hadn't done the work. There's a term for submitting false claims to court.
patrick fraser goes hard
Fraudulent ticket no show cop I was parked correctly - lien for what trumped up lien fees and now where is my vehicle???
what is help me howard and how can i find someone like that to help me?
How can they put a lien on property they didn’t do anything on and they should go through a judge to get a lien on your property only if they can prove they done any work
When youre a shady contractor you name your company with a name starting with an A, that moves you to the top of alphabet based listings, an old trick from the phone book days. They do this because they dont get word of mouth business or referrals, because the constantly burn bridges and steal. This is were pro bono attorneys would help, most people cant afford to put the attorney fees up to get the case into court. Perhaps laws should be enacted to force business organizations to pay into a fund to cover contractor/customer dispute attorney upfront costs. I know for a fact that the chamber of commerce (a republucan organization) could afford it, and there are others. Contractor license fees could be increased also to help with this. I hope he sues them and they have to pay for all the injustice they did to him.
honestly i dont want to give this away but criminals like this need to pay. when doing work on your property either yourself or hiring a company. make sure you get pics of before, during and after the work so you can show progress being done. in this case of an illegal lien, call up the bank with the lien and inform them that the lien is illegal and that if they dont remove it today they will be added to the possible lawsuit you are going to file. you will not be able to speak to anyone else but their legal department from then on but when you show them proof that the money that the person is asking for is for no work that has not be completed, they will have no choice but to drop the lien.
Do you think you can make the background music a little louder so there's no chance of understanding what the people are saying!!?
Absolute bullshit what these contractors are doing. DO THE WORK BEFORE YOU DO A LIEN! Hell, the contractor didn't even have a permit, why is the lien even valid if the contractor is essentially violating his own contract?
Usual suspects
I already emailed the company about lapd mishap this worse case scenario
If only you could get triple pane double hung windows.
My great granny had double hung windows (not triple pane, mind you) and 10 foot ceilings. Even when it was a hundred outside in east Texas, it was only 86° in there.
So . . . Do you really want new windows that are going to roast you?
How about find someone to create some double (or triple) panes that can be mounted from the inside.
That way you don't have to remove your security bars on the outside.
And if not already, some ventilators on the roof. Stop giving all your $ to the energy companies 😊
“Hire attorney”, “sue the company”… you know what these people understand, and will work faster than the courts?; violence.
I'm not sure this gentleman has a place to park a bulldozer while he modifies it.
@@JimDean002 lol
What the beep! 27,180 omg way overpriced.
Never hire someone. You will either get a meth head, a fraudser, or someone who doesn't k ow what they are doing. Or all of the above. No thanks to all of the contractors. Ill build my home from the ground up myself if i have to!
Leins should not be allowed at all. Go to small claims court.
Here is another thing many/most don't understand when or if you don't pay a contractor they can force a foreclosure on your mortgage your bank can forclose on you if you get a lein placed on your property for not paying a contactor who worked on your home. Always check and make sure the contractor you hire is licensed with the state you live in make sure they have workman comp on all there help an make sure the company has a solid reputation in your area. You may pay more however this covers you of potential issues later
a license means absolutely nothing and is the biggest myth in the business. i work in construction and my best/ most honest gcs are the guys without licenses. my tile guy is an 18 year old kid who will run circles around any major company. ive seen more people get ripped off by licensed contractors then unlicensed people. license does not equal solid reputation
@@zesolodar How to say that you're an idiot, without actually saying that you're an idiot. No license guarantees the quality of the contractor or work, but there dozens of ways that you can and will get screwed over when hiring an unlicensed contractor for work that must be permitted. I worked in construction before college, after college, and up till my recent retirement. That is probably more years than you've been alive. Your advice is totally wrong and you should really STFU.
How is this company still in business?
No doubt it's Florida
basic title slander lawsuit.
Where I come from the word is shyster
It should be illegal for contractors to put a lien on anyone's home. I've gotten lots of work done by lots of different contractors and so many times they forget to remove the lien. What's worse is you have to pay the city $375 to even see what liens have been put on your home. The ONLY acceptable reason for a lien to be put on a house is by the bank. I'm thinking about opening an anonymous LLC and putting a full lien on my home just to protect myself from these evil contractors. I don't know how to do this legally though so now I have to pay thousands of dollars to an asset protection attorney to figure out how to do it. It's all a scam.
He is an moe ron. If someone put a lien on his property , without warrant, he should have sued the company and he wouldnt need an attorney to do that. Sue them for the total of the lien and drag them through discovery. You dont need help me Howard for this.
After he win the case, put a lien on their business license and I bet they wont do that again
There is more to this story imo. I would like to hear from the contractor as well many times homeowners are not truthful on the whole story. I am a a contractor 41 yrs this past 2 years we have had to place several leins on homes due to non payers so before you hire someone an try an yank them on payment you better think twice as we can slap a lein on your home an make your credit sink quick
Been there done that !!!
I agree, homeowners can lie lie lie and get away with it, BECAUSE so many contractors have dicked homeowners around it makes it tuff on the law abiding, code complaint, trust worthy contractors
The contractor had a chance to give their side and they chose not to. It’s apparent this contractor, at least, is the liar.
One would think someone who has placed liens on customers would know how to spell lien…unlike you.
I'm also guessing you had done work and purchased materials right? In this guy's case, zero work had been done and I'm willing to bet they never purchased anything. If you had bought a bunch of windows and doors, I'm guessing this would be custom sizes too, and then just say, "Okay, we'll forget about the whole thing"? Zero chance. That company's books need to be audited. They sound very predatory.
Well from what you just said I would NOT hire you for anything, the contractor he hired DID NOT do any work at all and refused to show any proof of it.
@@williamwilson6499 ... well said.
Looks like he said to hell with the windows and got some work done on his face. He went from a dork in the beginning to looking like one of those Miami millionaires you see on yachts.
“They don’t make them like they used to, Thank God!
Another case of someone getting screwed over until he reached out to a tv station’s news division. Maybe the stations should be given the legal power to help people. Apparently the legal system won’t.
All those bars on the windows, living in a prison.
You have to when you're surrounded by 'diversity', Lol
You are better off watching a youtube video then doing it yourself than hiring any contractor.