That Dark Horse may make me a convert from H-D. The suspension is the biggest reason. I did a test ride the other day, and even in the short distance I was allowed to ride, it felt awesome.
I went to the Indian dealer a couple weeks ago to look at the new 2019 Chieftain and walked out with a 2017 Roadmaster Classic with only 870 miles on it. I freakin love it.
My current ride is a ‘17 H-D CVO Street Glide, first new bike ever, first bagger ever. I went all out building it. Stage IV, ported heads, 16” apes, it’s kind of ridiculous. Lol. VERY powerful and fast bike, but also incredibly comfortable for those 500+ mile per day rides, which I do a lot. I rode a Chieftain Dark Horse 116 recently as well, and I have to say, it rides really nice. Good, even power delivery throughout the rpm range, and very comfy... love the adjustable windscreen, and a few other features. Personal preference wise, I still prefer my glide, in terms of looks, the batwing fairing is tough to beat IMO, but that’s all a matter of personal taste. The one thing that concerns me with Indian, is not the bikes themselves, or even the company itself, it’s the parent company being Polaris and the way they did their loyal fan base with the whole victory debacle. I have quite a few buddies that ride victory bikes and they all feel as though Polaris screwed them long term because parts availability will dwindle significantly over time, and now that everyone knows that, their bikes’ value plummeted immediately. If Indian sales were to dip, I can see Polaris doing the same thing with them. Maybe it’d be different and the iconic Indian name would be attractive for a buyout by another American company, but Polaris lost a lot of trust with that victory move.
This is the issue that I am having. I really like the Chieftain Dark horse, especially with the stage 3 kit. I am looking at getting my first bagger and going all out as well. I just do not want Polaris to give up on Indian like they did Victory. The really have a good product. If I spend top dollar to buy the bike then go all out accessorizing it, I would like to think that the company will be around.
Polaris was losing money with Victory and sales were consistently declining after their 2012 peak. Indian, meanwhile, broke into double-digit market share in three years...something Victory was never able to do in 19 years or even at its sales peak. I liked the Victory bikes...but at the same time, if you have a brand that's taking off and you can't build enough of them and a brand that sales are dropping, you're losing money and redesigns/updates need to happen...which one do you put the resources into? Indian isn't going anywhere. Sales are steadily increasing by double-digit percentages while Harley sales are falling by just as much. That's doesn't mean Harley is going anywhere, either. I have a feeling they will both be with us for a long time...as long as they both stay fresh. I have lots of Harley riding friends and I tell them that Indian was the best thing to happen to Harley. They updated engines, improved suspensions and improved the infotainment..all things that, simply, Indian was/is doing better. Oh, and I'll be keeping my fingers crossed you don't lunch that stage 4 M8...apparently, they like to come apart.
I don't think that will be an issue with Indian. They dropped Victory to capitalize on the Indian brand because of it's history and how iconic the brand is. It obviously turned out to be the right choice if you look at market share. I don't think there is a more iconic brand name that would cause the same kind of move going forward.
John M I’d love to have your confidence. Their market share went up initially, similar to when victory came out, but as soon as sales dipped, they shitcanned the whole brand. I’m not confident that they wouldn’t do the same with Indian if they were to see a similar sales dip after the initial boon
Real talk fam!There is rumors circulating that uh New Indian is on your Horizon.I just think this Bronze Chieftain is absolutely stunning.Go for this one.Please!
Very nice job with these reviews! Its really great to see a youtuber who enjoys Indian. When you get youtube famous for doing Indian stuff I'll be an OG
@@BrandonBicasso Haha! Not yet ..couple years down the road. But I definitely see why people love the baggers,something I never wouldve considered before.
I traded my Victory in on that same bike but with stock 111 and I get as giddy as you did every time I ride it Still! It’s got a lot of giddy up for sure and feels like my Hoss!
Nice video! I have a 2016 Chieftain in the smoke silver. I never thought I'd like the matte finish but love. And that white and bronze one is crazy cool. I'm looking to do some upgrades next season on my Chieftain but after watching this I may need to reconsider putting money into and just wait to get a new one. Don't think I want to spend the coin for the 116 though!
Wow, two almost half hour videos? Well my next hour is shot. ;-) EDIT: That bronze Sixty the "instructor" is riding look amazing. This is a two for one video. I'm glad you had fun. I can't wait till you test ride the FTR 1200s.
I have that exact bike. 2018 with black saddle bags and front high way bars. I love mine but I eventually will get the white smoke Springfield Dark Horse when I get a few bills payed off.
I rode a 111 and 116 back to back yesterday. I think I liked the feel of the 111 better. The 116 definitely had noticeably more power/torque, but it was in a different place. And the throttle felt a bit "choppy". I didn't think to experiment with ride modes tho.. so perhaps that might have helped. I was in "standard" mode for both bikes.
Sport mode would've made it more choppy. On my Cali trip, I rode with in sport mode the whole time after getting used to it. My 109 is choppy as well so I'm used to it.
Your intro pretty much said it all :) Ok, so now we have the 116 in the carport, along with the Bobber AND the new flat tracker ?? You better get a warehouse like Jay Leno's Garage :)) I would love having the issue of which bike to ride today, from the 20 or so available. I don't need hundreds like Jay, 20 seems like a workable number ……….
Excellent review, Brandon. Why don't you tell us how you really feel? j/k. I test rode the Springfield, as cpl of weeks ago. WOW!! Trust me, I know how you feel. Again, thanks, safe riding,
Hey Brandon, is this 111 with the 116 kit the same engine with timing fuel mapping, cams etc as the 2020model 116 that come. I wondering how that $2800 shows the sticker price of the 2020? Did you know that cycle you are riding cost $10,000 more than my new 2019 Toyota Corolla VSE Hatchback (MSRP) at 25K? They will not sell at that price (except for a few)
@@BrandonBicasso Yes, but I was wondering if it has the same kit. Was this before Jerry bought his white one, and before he added stage 2, or was it stage 4 (making it the 116)?
@@BrandonBicasso but the bore doesn't change with the add-on 116 kit for the 2018 and 2019 models (?), and I suspect same bore/stroke on the 2020 OEM 116 option
It would have been nice for you to know how to use the Ride Command a little better before trying to do a review about it on the fly. Good way to get in an accident. I recommend you go over all that stuff before the ride and then just enjoy the ride. I do agree that it is trying to look like a Harley but Harley Street Glide Special can't touch this with the Ride Command so much faster, the electric adjustable windshield, the 116 engine.
I would be interested to see a dyno chart of the 116. The M109 is a beast, has roll-on torque that HD or Indian can only dream of normally. The M109 also loves to corner, just watch out for the pegs, it is really easy to drag pegs on the M109.
109 for performance. The high rev nature of it is intoxicating. Handing wise the 116 has a better lean angle, but the 109 is satisfying to lean through sweepers.
@@BrandonBicasso Indian...I dont the the 109 needs anything but better paint schemes to the Boss editions...2 color max, black and whatever works. If they could do a new design it better just as epic as what they already have.
Depending on price, probably the Chieftain simply because of the fairing and the touch screen ride command. Both look great, but that added feature is a plus. If I didn't want the fairing and did hangers, I'd go Springfield. The 111 felt faster than the 116 I'm guessing because of the Springfield set up. So, I'd imagine the 116 would be crazy. Lol.
@@BrandonBicasso does it come with a removable windshield I wonder? Likely accessory add on. I'm thinking Springfield with 116 would be pretty close in price to the chieftain limited 111 so that's a bonus right there.
@@threehemis5566 Yeah, before the '19s came out Indian was dropping removable accessories. I'd assume there is a removable or quick release windshield in there somewhere.
I like the fact that Indian offers both versions for us that like those classic big ass fenders. Brandon you have to be careful doing these test rides they'll come up and bite your wallet brother. I'm about to put myself through the same pain shortly and test the Vintage to possibly replace my HD Electra Glide.
Nah, my buddy Lenore has an '18 Chieftain and she's 5'2 I think. I'm 5'10 so boots will help. I think the windshield was fully extended, but of course it can be adjusted electronically.
I like your ride demo, the sound seems different than what ive heard. this doesnt sound much like a sewing machine. is there something different? im considering a Roadmaster Stage 3 down the road.
To an extent, yes. You can adjust the suspension by letting air out of the rear. A kit comes with the bike that does that. Can also go a step further and get a lowering kit to alter the stock height. Also, there are different seat and handle bar set ups for shorter riders. ❤
@@BrandonBicasso That new 1 looks too much like the Harley, I think it's that big ass front end on it...I dont like that....its not sleek n sporty enough for me....idk. th-cam.com/video/kMD7diOEKRo/w-d-xo.html Idk!!!!
I do not want anyone attacking me.But I do not think this bike looks like the street glide the saddlebags looks different,the cylinder head covers look different,the fairing looks different.Is it similar to the bat wing of the Harley Street Glide,absolutely!It's still a Batwing fairing,but I can see the lines and they look different.Harley has no color on the market right now that matches this.So yes it's a Touring bike yes it has Saddlebags but I believe this Indian looks different and I can tell it looks different.(Besides i am uh Harley fan 2018 Olive Gold Road King Special).So for me to say this.I am speaking what i feel.Indian has got me on this go around.I'm just skeptical with the on going paint and few electrical issue slash fuel issue i red about on recalls online with the Road Master/Chieftain Limited.Harley has uh few issues going on with the M8 and i Purchased one at $24,000.So at the end of the day your taking uh risk regardless.Enjoy life.Buy the Bike!Man this Bronze make me wanna cop another Touring Motorcycle.😭
I might have to get me some Indian. I have been waiting for the right bike to come along. Then I'll have a Victory, a Harley, and an Indian. The trinity. They do make a real nice leather heat shield to protect your leg from the heat. Something akin to the fender on a western saddle. Next time you and that Indian get a room like decent folk do. I am sure that you have already violated some snowflake stricture of TH-cam.
I'm 5' 11' tall, and I also felt cramped on the 2018, Indian Classic because the seat put me in a position too close to the dash, but not on the 2019. Indian Chieftain that had the 116 engine and the new seat that moved me farther away from the dash. In my opinion after I rode both bikes, the new style seat on the 2019 , Indian Chieftain is much more comfortable. I absolutely loved the roll on power of the 116 and the DEEP roar of the stage one mufflers when ever I nailed the throttle on the 116. Taking off from a stop and then waiting to hear the DEEP rumble of the exhaust when ever I wound out the gears was like a drug addiction.
At 5'10" I felt the 2018 chieftain was a little light on legroom, but the seat to dash distance was ok, slightly better than the street glide. The HDs definitely have more footroom once you ditch the heel shifter. I liked the road glide the best out of the HDs, even if that fairing is yuuuggeee. The sound of that 116 is really nice though.
Indian want to sell Chieftains. Ok. This is how you do it. Give us this bike, with lowers, speaker lids on the saddlebags, a real brake pedal and a tour pack option for an amazing $18 to 20k. That's it and it aint hard to figure out, or I can get a Kawasaki Vaquero for way less than that and customize it with plenty of change left over..
Yea, cant really compare that with your Scout, totally different class, but Indian will have to hope someone else buys this bike at $30,000 plus dollars...lol. find yourself a good, used Yamaha Roadstar bagger or Stratoliner for 5 grand and enjoy riding with little worries.
Not gonna lie... That Chieftain had me wanting to go in debt, lol. It's a nice ride and I can say I felt something when riding it. I probably would on a street glide or anything else, but this one felt right.
Well before you take on such a price, try a good used alternative, 1700 Roadstar or Stratoliner 1900 and see if the Indian 116 still has that big shine to it. But with that said, when/if I trade or sell my Stratoliner, I would certainly consider the new model Indians
indian might have been before harley, but they have been in and out of business over the years, while harley has remained. they had a real unique look with the chieftain, but now this just looks like an imitation street glide, the street glide was 1st and they made this look like it. i am a bike enthusiast i have no brand loyalty if its good i will ride and buy it, i think the dash looks quite antiquated compared 2 the harleys, i dont know why with a complete overhaul they didn't make that look better. i will say this about indian, they give u a lot of stuff stock that u would have 2 get a cvo 2 get on a harley. i also love the sound out of the gate.
Harley made the fairing with saddlebags, no lower fairings or tour pack popular long before Indian as well as victory and all the others out there. It came to be in 2006 before Indian made a comeback .it came to be with the street glide because many riders removed those tour packs and lower fairings from their Electra classics.
@@ugoboy99 I'll try to state that next time. At the demo rides I don't have the chance to get more in depth with info on them. Some demo day instructors are already funny about people recording as is lol.
Put that stupid warning sticker somewhere other than the top of the gas tank. If Indian is going to copy Harley-Davidson at least put it on the air cleaner like they do.
I haven’t rode many touring bikes. Only the road glide, but i rode this bike. It was absolutely amazing on every aspect.
Glad you enjoyed it. ❤️
I'm buying a bobber this year but next year I'm thinking of upgrading to that exact bike. Looks and sounds so good. Feels great too
I'm in love with the flat paint schemes. That bronze on black is soooooooooo gorgeous. Same as my Scout Bobber.
Agreed!
I own uh Metallic color from Harley(Olive Gold).This Indian color makes me wanna jump!
That Dark Horse may make me a convert from H-D. The suspension is the biggest reason. I did a test ride the other day, and even in the short distance I was allowed to ride, it felt awesome.
Yeah, the suspension is pretty good. You can't go wrong with either HD or Indian nowadays, though. There's some take and give with both.
I went to the Indian dealer a couple weeks ago to look at the new 2019 Chieftain and walked out with a 2017 Roadmaster Classic with only 870 miles on it. I freakin love it.
Awesome! Glad you are enjoying it!! Put some miles on that beauty!
My current ride is a ‘17 H-D CVO Street Glide, first new bike ever, first bagger ever. I went all out building it. Stage IV, ported heads, 16” apes, it’s kind of ridiculous. Lol. VERY powerful and fast bike, but also incredibly comfortable for those 500+ mile per day rides, which I do a lot.
I rode a Chieftain Dark Horse 116 recently as well, and I have to say, it rides really nice. Good, even power delivery throughout the rpm range, and very comfy... love the adjustable windscreen, and a few other features. Personal preference wise, I still prefer my glide, in terms of looks, the batwing fairing is tough to beat IMO, but that’s all a matter of personal taste.
The one thing that concerns me with Indian, is not the bikes themselves, or even the company itself, it’s the parent company being Polaris and the way they did their loyal fan base with the whole victory debacle. I have quite a few buddies that ride victory bikes and they all feel as though Polaris screwed them long term because parts availability will dwindle significantly over time, and now that everyone knows that, their bikes’ value plummeted immediately. If Indian sales were to dip, I can see Polaris doing the same thing with them. Maybe it’d be different and the iconic Indian name would be attractive for a buyout by another American company, but Polaris lost a lot of trust with that victory move.
This is the issue that I am having. I really like the Chieftain Dark horse, especially with the stage 3 kit. I am looking at getting my first bagger and going all out as well. I just do not want Polaris to give up on Indian like they did Victory. The really have a good product. If I spend top dollar to buy the bike then go all out accessorizing it, I would like to think that the company will be around.
Indian is using the shocks you would find on the bigger ultra bikes. Longer travel, less sporty longer shocks.
Polaris was losing money with Victory and sales were consistently declining after their 2012 peak. Indian, meanwhile, broke into double-digit market share in three years...something Victory was never able to do in 19 years or even at its sales peak. I liked the Victory bikes...but at the same time, if you have a brand that's taking off and you can't build enough of them and a brand that sales are dropping, you're losing money and redesigns/updates need to happen...which one do you put the resources into?
Indian isn't going anywhere. Sales are steadily increasing by double-digit percentages while Harley sales are falling by just as much. That's doesn't mean Harley is going anywhere, either. I have a feeling they will both be with us for a long time...as long as they both stay fresh. I have lots of Harley riding friends and I tell them that Indian was the best thing to happen to Harley. They updated engines, improved suspensions and improved the infotainment..all things that, simply, Indian was/is doing better.
Oh, and I'll be keeping my fingers crossed you don't lunch that stage 4 M8...apparently, they like to come apart.
I don't think that will be an issue with Indian. They dropped Victory to capitalize on the Indian brand because of it's history and how iconic the brand is. It obviously turned out to be the right choice if you look at market share. I don't think there is a more iconic brand name that would cause the same kind of move going forward.
John M I’d love to have your confidence. Their market share went up initially, similar to when victory came out, but as soon as sales dipped, they shitcanned the whole brand. I’m not confident that they wouldn’t do the same with Indian if they were to see a similar sales dip after the initial boon
Real talk fam!There is rumors circulating that uh New Indian is on your Horizon.I just think this Bronze Chieftain is absolutely stunning.Go for this one.Please!
That'd be a cool set up. Rumors are rumors. Sometimes they are true 😎
I like that they put the signature indian head on the fender. I have a 2015 love it!
Liking the Indian video. Just nice to compare bikes.
I try to demo ride with Big #1 as often as they have them. I missed this demo and hate that I did! I think I might have to make this purchase.
I hate you did as well! It was a real treat. Maybe next time 👌😎
Very nice job with these reviews! Its really great to see a youtuber who enjoys Indian. When you get youtube famous for doing Indian stuff I'll be an OG
Yep! Lol, it'll be a while before getting famous.
I just did a demo today on this bike at Daytona and maaaan...I was blown away by that 116..this will be my next bike !
kencolle1 I loved it too. Rode the 111 and 116 today at the dealer demo. They seem lighter than the Harley’s. Plus it didn’t shake me to death
Oooooouuuu, I smell Indian purchases soooon. 😎
@@shoei07 they do seem lighter then you would hink..I was totally comfortable riding ,and that 116 I rode. Such a nice motorcycle.
@@BrandonBicasso Haha! Not yet ..couple years down the road. But I definitely see why people love the baggers,something I never wouldve considered before.
I traded my Victory in on that same bike but with stock 111 and I get as giddy as you did every time I ride it Still!
It’s got a lot of giddy up for sure and feels like my Hoss!
Giddy is good! Haha
Love those Indians! They just get better and better!
Agreed! 👌😎
I have a 2016 Chieftain & I'm SERIOUSLY thinking about the new one!💪
Nice video! I have a 2016 Chieftain in the smoke silver. I never thought I'd like the matte finish but love. And that white and bronze one is crazy cool. I'm looking to do some upgrades next season on my Chieftain but after watching this I may need to reconsider putting money into and just wait to get a new one. Don't think I want to spend the coin for the 116 though!
O SHIT!I Didn't realize you had uh video of the bike that has my attention.This indian is the Truth fam!
Heh 😎😎
Your opening sound - Ahhh Ahhh Ahhh - made my wife shouted at me furiously! LOL
LOL! I was enjoying myself too much. 👌😎
Wow, two almost half hour videos? Well my next hour is shot. ;-)
EDIT: That bronze Sixty the "instructor" is riding look amazing. This is a two for one video. I'm glad you had fun. I can't wait till you test ride the FTR 1200s.
You know how we do ; ). And yes, that is gonna be a real hoot!
I have that exact bike. 2018 with black saddle bags and front high way bars. I love mine but I eventually will get the white smoke Springfield Dark Horse when I get a few bills payed off.
Too cool. Love you lovin ‘ it!
Congratulations on keeping that 1146 locomotive in a straight line. Adaptive cfuise control.
Lmao 😂😂😂😂 it's definitely a beast 👌😎
I rode a 111 and 116 back to back yesterday. I think I liked the feel of the 111 better. The 116 definitely had noticeably more power/torque, but it was in a different place. And the throttle felt a bit "choppy". I didn't think to experiment with ride modes tho.. so perhaps that might have helped. I was in "standard" mode for both bikes.
Sport mode would've made it more choppy. On my Cali trip, I rode with in sport mode the whole time after getting used to it. My 109 is choppy as well so I'm used to it.
Yeah, dude, you want the 116. I swear by my Kawi Vulcan 2K with its 125.3 CI/2053 cc. engine!
Sounds great does it have standard exhaust on it
Your intro pretty much said it all :) Ok, so now we have the 116 in the carport, along with the Bobber AND the new flat tracker ?? You better get a warehouse like Jay Leno's Garage :)) I would love having the issue of which bike to ride today, from the 20 or so available. I don't need hundreds like Jay, 20 seems like a workable number ……….
Whew.. I'm definitely gonna need more space. Just too many bikes to list on what I'd own from Triumph, Ducati, Indian, HD, etc. So many bikes. lol.
Did you buy it? I love the Roadmaster. I just don’t have the $$$. Yet
Naaaah, don't have the coin yet either.
Soon, though.
Excellent review, Brandon. Why don't you tell us how you really feel? j/k. I test rode the Springfield, as cpl of weeks ago. WOW!! Trust me, I know how you feel. Again, thanks, safe riding,
Hey Brandon, is this 111 with the 116 kit the same engine with timing fuel mapping, cams etc as the 2020model 116 that come. I wondering how that $2800 shows the sticker price of the 2020? Did you know that cycle you are riding cost $10,000 more than my new 2019 Toyota Corolla VSE Hatchback (MSRP) at 25K? They will not sell at that price (except for a few)
This was before the 116 came standard on the 2020 models.
@@BrandonBicasso Yes, but I was wondering if it has the same kit. Was this before Jerry bought his white one, and before he added stage 2, or was it stage 4 (making it the 116)?
@@ut1004bp there are some differences between the BBK 116 and the one that is standard now. He only has 585 cams on a 111 bore.
@@BrandonBicasso but the bore doesn't change with the add-on 116 kit for the 2018 and 2019 models (?), and I suspect same bore/stroke on the 2020 OEM 116 option
It would have been nice for you to know how to use the Ride Command a little better before trying to do a review about it on the fly. Good way to get in an accident. I recommend you go over all that stuff before the ride and then just enjoy the ride. I do agree that it is trying to look like a Harley but Harley Street Glide Special can't touch this with the Ride Command so much faster, the electric adjustable windshield, the 116 engine.
I did that before I pulled off. Only needed it to swap modes which is one press to do it.
Oh ya and I laughed my ass off all the way through it, you didn't happen to enjoy yourself did ya lol
A tad too much as always lol.
Man you’re too funny bro! Has me laughing! I rode that bike and loved it!
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Looking awesome!!
so the 116 or the M109? performance vise? and handling vise? Which one has the edge?
I would be interested to see a dyno chart of the 116. The M109 is a beast, has roll-on torque that HD or Indian can only dream of normally. The M109 also loves to corner, just watch out for the pegs, it is really easy to drag pegs on the M109.
109 for performance. The high rev nature of it is intoxicating. Handing wise the 116 has a better lean angle, but the 109 is satisfying to lean through sweepers.
Does it not have the Victory Magnum feel n slight look. How fast is it in comparison to the Suzuki M109 Boulevard.
Sorry, missed your comment. Comes out the hole with the 109. 109 takes it on mid to top end.
@@BrandonBicasso I seen some of the concept designs of the new 1 coming...I bet we get a disappointing design....
@@ThaMidwestBrutha Of the new 109 or Indian?
@@BrandonBicasso Indian...I dont the the 109 needs anything but better paint schemes to the Boss editions...2 color max, black and whatever works. If they could do a new design it better just as epic as what they already have.
@@ThaMidwestBrutha I wish they'd update it to compete with the XDiavel/Rocket 3. Add a bit more tech and lighten the load.
Great review👌, I love all American cruisers.
Ride safe,
Ride swift🏍💨🔥
I'm riding Suzuki M109R. Do you like this bike better than M109R?
The 116 is the better all around bike. I'm still drawn to the muscle and higher revving feel of the 109, though.
Nice video. If that Springfield you took out in the last video also had the 116 which bike would you pick?
Depending on price, probably the Chieftain simply because of the fairing and the touch screen ride command. Both look great, but that added feature is a plus. If I didn't want the fairing and did hangers, I'd go Springfield. The 111 felt faster than the 116 I'm guessing because of the Springfield set up. So, I'd imagine the 116 would be crazy. Lol.
@@BrandonBicasso does it come with a removable windshield I wonder? Likely accessory add on. I'm thinking Springfield with 116 would be pretty close in price to the chieftain limited 111 so that's a bonus right there.
@@threehemis5566 Yeah, before the '19s came out Indian was dropping removable accessories. I'd assume there is a removable or quick release windshield in there somewhere.
I like the fact that Indian offers both versions for us that like those classic big ass fenders. Brandon you have to be careful doing these test rides they'll come up and bite your wallet brother. I'm about to put myself through the same pain shortly and test the Vintage to possibly replace my HD Electra Glide.
My wallet is on call. These test rides are stirring up my thoughts as always, lol.
I didn't forget fam!I thumbed it up.Plus i'm already Subscribed.😊
Why thank you ❤❤❤
Great videos. I just watched 3 but only am going comment on this one. Bike looks good. Do I see indian #2 in your future?
Haha, maybe! There's definitely a possibility.
@@BrandonBicasso I'll 👍on all of them for you.
It truly is worth the jump the 116 is top dog for sure.
The 116 is a kit! Not stock and a lot more coin 7,000 dollars of add-ons
@@sportglidejim9001 1ST you need the stage 1 kit. Pipe filter and tuner. Then you can have the 116ci kit installed .bIG BUCKS FOR THAT.
@@tax905972 yep! That's what I said
Question: the tour pak on this is $3k? WTF are they thinking about with this one?
Haven't looked at it, but could always go after market.
🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂🤘🏾 first 5 seconds!!!!! Hearing a man nut for the wrong reason is a big fat YES!!!!
Hey, it gave me the feels man. What can I say, lol
I ride a 2016 Chieftain. I HATE the "Chief-Glide"! What was Indian thinking?
They thought to make something for the people that aren't with the classic looks of the Chieftain. There's room for both. 👌😎
Honda. Yamaha, & Suzuki went the same way. Copy Harley. I ride a 2016 Chieftain
Maybe so. We like what we like. 👌😎
I'm 5'8 - see any problems with my height on that bike. Is that screen at full height?
Nah, my buddy Lenore has an '18 Chieftain and she's 5'2 I think. I'm 5'10 so boots will help. I think the windshield was fully extended, but of course it can be adjusted electronically.
I like your ride demo, the sound seems different than what ive heard. this doesnt sound much like a sewing machine. is there something different? im considering a Roadmaster Stage 3 down the road.
It had a stage 1 exhaust on it if I remember correctly. Also, not to mention the 116 Big bore kit and air filter upgrade.
Good to see you back
Glad to be back!
Rode that bike today at demo days. Very nice.
Yes, it is! 👌
can this bike be lowered for shorter riders
To an extent, yes. You can adjust the suspension by letting air out of the rear. A kit comes with the bike that does that. Can also go a step further and get a lowering kit to alter the stock height. Also, there are different seat and handle bar set ups for shorter riders. ❤
What kind of gloves you rocking?
Highway 21 Trigger Gloves
If I could afford one I’d get one.
Don't own a bike and never driven one, but man do those Indians have me wanting one.
What's stopping ya! Go take a motorcycle course and learn! : D
I think this 1 looks better then the new 1 they put out....Chieftain vs the Challenger.
Yeah, the like the new Cheiftain over the classic myself.
@@BrandonBicasso That new 1 looks too much like the Harley, I think it's that big ass front end on it...I dont like that....its not sleek n sporty enough for me....idk.
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Idk!!!!
Great video .🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Preciate the love! 💪 I gotta get to ATL and ride with you and your crew soon.
Best Bike In The World USA Made Me And My Wife Will Try And Buy Two. We Already Have Kool Indian T-Shirts, Bikes NEXT! Thanks For This Video
Ayeee! Congrats on your future purchase! 👌😎
When you putting a deposit on one? 😉
My bank roll ain't big enough to take down that temptation yet. 😂🤓
Do a go fund me page for my retirement piece! It’s a need every man should have.
I do not want anyone attacking me.But I do not think this bike looks like the street glide the saddlebags looks different,the cylinder head covers look different,the fairing looks different.Is it similar to the bat wing of the Harley Street Glide,absolutely!It's still a Batwing fairing,but I can see the lines and they look different.Harley has no color on the market right now that matches this.So yes it's a Touring bike yes it has Saddlebags but I believe this Indian looks different and I can tell it looks different.(Besides i am uh Harley fan 2018 Olive Gold Road King Special).So for me to say this.I am speaking what i feel.Indian has got me on this go around.I'm just skeptical with the on going paint and few electrical issue slash fuel issue i red about on recalls online with the Road Master/Chieftain Limited.Harley has uh few issues going on with the M8 and i Purchased one at $24,000.So at the end of the day your taking uh risk regardless.Enjoy life.Buy the Bike!Man this Bronze make me wanna cop another Touring Motorcycle.😭
Yeah, it's obvious where Indian took some design elements from, but I do think you can tell them apart.
Most Excellent!
Fo sho!
I might have to get me some Indian. I have been waiting for the right bike to come along. Then I'll have a Victory, a Harley, and an Indian. The trinity. They do make a real nice leather heat shield to protect your leg from the heat. Something akin to the fender on a western saddle. Next time you and that Indian get a room like decent folk do. I am sure that you have already violated some snowflake stricture of TH-cam.
Nah, the Indian likes to be free and stretch its legs. 😂😂😂
I'm 5' 11' tall, and I also felt cramped on the 2018, Indian Classic because the seat put me in a position too close to the dash, but not on the 2019. Indian Chieftain that had the 116 engine and the new seat that moved me farther away from the dash. In my opinion after I rode both bikes, the new style seat on the 2019 , Indian Chieftain is much more comfortable. I absolutely loved the roll on power of the 116 and the DEEP roar of the stage one mufflers when ever I nailed the throttle on the 116. Taking off from a stop and then waiting to hear the DEEP rumble of the exhaust when ever I wound out the gears was like a drug addiction.
Yeah, the sound this thing makes is intoxicating.
Oh yeah! The 116 engine puts out an exhaust sound that you can't get enough of.
At 5'10" I felt the 2018 chieftain was a little light on legroom, but the seat to dash distance was ok, slightly better than the street glide. The HDs definitely have more footroom once you ditch the heel shifter. I liked the road glide the best out of the HDs, even if that fairing is yuuuggeee. The sound of that 116 is really nice though.
Rode the new Chieftain with 116 ..very nice bike...but still doesn't run like my Victory XC when you get on it pass 60..
Those are soo tempting.....
Yeah they are!
Excellent video
Thanks! 👌😀
Brandon Bicasso definitely going to take a test ride on this model
So you getting one?
Maybe. My bank roll ain't high enough yet. Working on that. 😏
Does it have a sound system
It does. Stock system in the fairings and this specific one had the added speakers in the saddle bags.
FIRE💥
Bang Bang!
Nice 👌
It really is. 👌
Looks more and more like an FLHX every year
Damn it. Now I want one.
I've done my job 😂😂
Hey Brandon that is going to be my new bike soon
Oh, nice! It's a great couch to ride! Lol.
Looks good
You really want a chieftain I can tell lol
It's a lovely machine. 🤷
$26,749.00 and that’s US. Australia with this kit the bike will costs $43,990.00. Nearly a $50k bike. Fuck that
It's smaller bro, because on this bike, it ain't a light its just an ornament.
Wish they made it light up. :/
Indian want to sell Chieftains. Ok. This is how you do it. Give us this bike, with lowers, speaker lids on the saddlebags, a real brake pedal and a tour pack option for
an amazing $18 to 20k. That's it and it aint hard to figure out, or I can get a Kawasaki Vaquero for way less than that and customize it with plenty of change left over..
Grab that booty 👐🏼. Had me dying 🤣
Lol, it felt THAT good. That seat had me ready to risk it all! 😂
The beginning bahahahaha......he likey
Indian needs to look at the Yamaha Venture if they want to know what direction to go in.
That O face
I like the bike a lot, except for the inside of the fairing.
It used to look a lot more basic before the ride command.
The only Indian bike I can can afford, are those bikes from India.🤣
You and me both 😅
You sound like “ ‘Busa Bro”.
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HD killers. These bikes offer more and are smoother. HD better watch out. These bikes are damn near perfect.
Turrrnnn 4:25 😈
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Left you blubbering speethless
Legend has it that if you listen closely, Bicasso is still blubbering till this day.
Aww look...they put Harley Talon wheels on it. Indian wheels must not have been that great lol
Yea, cant really compare that with your Scout, totally different class, but Indian will have to hope someone else buys this bike at $30,000 plus dollars...lol. find yourself a good, used Yamaha Roadstar bagger or Stratoliner for 5 grand and enjoy riding with little worries.
Not gonna lie... That Chieftain had me wanting to go in debt, lol. It's a nice ride and I can say I felt something when riding it. I probably would on a street glide or anything else, but this one felt right.
Well before you take on such a price, try a good used alternative, 1700 Roadstar or Stratoliner 1900 and see if the Indian 116 still has that big shine to it. But with that said, when/if I trade or sell my Stratoliner, I would certainly consider the new model Indians
Indian was before Harley, so Indian is not looking like a Harley. Harley is looking like Indian.
indian might have been before harley, but they have been in and out of business over the years, while harley has remained. they had a real unique look with the chieftain, but now this just looks like an imitation street glide, the street glide was 1st and they made this look like it. i am a bike enthusiast i have no brand loyalty if its good i will ride and buy it, i think the dash
looks quite antiquated compared 2 the harleys, i dont know why with a complete overhaul they didn't make that look better. i will say this about indian, they give u a lot of stuff stock that u would have 2 get a cvo 2 get on a harley. i also love the sound out of the gate.
Harley made the fairing with saddlebags, no lower fairings or tour pack popular long before Indian as well as victory and all the others out there. It came to be in 2006 before Indian made a comeback .it came to be with the street glide because many riders removed those tour packs and lower fairings from their Electra classics.
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Can someone intelligent review the bike
This is a demo ride, not a review. Plenty of reviews out there. Carry on 👌😎
Sorry B you were critiquing the bike so it sounded like a review to me. Your throttle noises got to me.
@@ugoboy99 I'll try to state that next time. At the demo rides I don't have the chance to get more in depth with info on them. Some demo day instructors are already funny about people recording as is lol.
Put that stupid warning sticker somewhere other than the top of the gas tank. If Indian is going to copy Harley-Davidson at least put it on the air cleaner like they do.
You know you COULD have done a walk around before you got on the bike. Waste of my time. Did not care to watch further. Peace out.
That was the point of the cinematic shots 👌😎