Indian Chieftain Dark Horse - One Year Owner Review

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  • It's been one year since I bought my Indian Chieftain Dark Horse, and it is now time for a one year review! These are my thoughts on ownership of this amazing bike over the past year and I have enjoyed every minute of it.
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  • @crashgorilla
    @crashgorilla 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Only 6,000... I be got the same model love her by the way! She’s got in a year and a half now 18000 + and counting. Be safe and ride more cheers!

  • @slim56
    @slim56 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review, i love my 17 chieftain. I added the trunk to mine it’s so useful. I’ve got 18,000 miles so far I’m very happy with it.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can't wait to get that trunk on mine. I need that extra storage. Thanks for watching brother!

  • @fromthebottomup3106
    @fromthebottomup3106 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My wife just got the Chieftain Limited and she is happy with it so far. I can say, after I rode it, the suspension it like riding on a pillow of air. It holds the road very well and the sound system is good n loud at 80mph. With that said, I don't if I would trade it for my Street Glide Special, I feel that the SGS is a mans bike. It takes a confident rider to handle this big heavy machine. The Chieftain feels lighter and more nimble to maneuver on the road. The throttle return spring is lighter which helps with wrist fatigue on long rides up the pig trail. So, I got nothing bad to say about the Chieftain. I'm just glad to have the best of both Indian motorcycles and Harley Davidson motorcycles in my garage. Safe riding to all.

    • @206-HoneyBadger
      @206-HoneyBadger ปีที่แล้ว

      I rode this same bike as a test ride. Felt cheap and looked like a plastic E.T. fairing staring back at me. While it rode way easier than a Street Glide as it has a better engineered design to it, but nonetheless... it felt like a lil' scooter. I bought a Street Glide Special and feel like a bad a*s on it because it feels, looks and sound legitimately like a brawler vs a fisher price toy. Sorry if anyone feels offended or angered by that, but that's how silly I felt on this bike. 5'2" female and I chose the Street Glide Special with a Stage 2 out the gate! Indian might have a better stock cookie cutter, but it ain't no American muscle when compared to Harley. 💃If you want it easy to ride, simple look and a confidence booster... buy an Indian!

  • @chieftainghostrider6475
    @chieftainghostrider6475 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The wife and I love our 2019 white smoke chieftain darkhhorse.

    • @marcusstrand7040
      @marcusstrand7040 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have one white 2019 chiftain. And i lovat🙂🙂🙂

  • @youcanthide004
    @youcanthide004 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great Update. KILLER color leaves on the trees🤘🏻🍁

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks! Glad you liked it 😁

  • @mortondavisproductions7578
    @mortondavisproductions7578 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for providing insight into what you love about your bike. I ride a 2016 Indian Roadmaster with the 111 engine and am glad to hear your thoughts about the engine and other aspects. I love Indian bikes! Be well, be safe.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Right on! Good to hear from another owner! Thanks for watching! (This video is a couple years old, I have a newer updated review on my channel also. Spoiler alert, I still love the bike. Maybe even more now.)

  • @jimtomstimpson1477
    @jimtomstimpson1477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Good to hear from you brother. I love my Roadmaster too. My only complaint is the excessive heat the engine produces in summer time riding. Lowers on the RM are great in rain and cold but in summer , they keep that heat swirling around the riders . Easy enough to take them off. It will be my 2 year anniversary on Chief Red Cloud next week and I will hit 70,000 miles, I don't own a car so I ride year round for work and recreation.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I wish I could ride mine year round. Seems like a sin to keep Chief Slapahoe locked in the garage all winter...

    • @jimtomstimpson1477
      @jimtomstimpson1477 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      LOL!

  • @sucker4o
    @sucker4o 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Omg… what beautiful roads you have there. Great review btw 👍

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it, thanks for watching!

  • @scoutinthearea8710
    @scoutinthearea8710 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Agree on all accounts man! Love my 111 engine too. These Indian Motorcycles are awesome!!

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They really are incredible American Machines!

  • @raymondcurrin
    @raymondcurrin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I totally agree with your opinion of the front faring. It’s as though there going backwards in style. I wouldn’t mind the ride command though. I bought mine in 2017. With the light war bonnet.

  • @BlahBlahYaga
    @BlahBlahYaga 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You had me at the Michael Scott clip!

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Glad you liked it:)

  • @worldtravelstar1148
    @worldtravelstar1148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such a gorgeous bike. One day maybe I can afford one...

  • @daveross5314
    @daveross5314 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I enjoy your vlogs very much I have about 2 hours north or west in Tennessee to get to an Indian dealership but my people talk hillbillies not French Lol your making it alot easier for me too cross over to and Indian thank you

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You're welcome. Come to the dark side, our bikes are way better 😁 Thanks for watching!

  • @aidenquinn8610
    @aidenquinn8610 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brilliant review , i hope to get one , some day , here in Ireland we have only had a dealership for 3 year , so not many here at all . Also here the cost is so much more . But some day , thanks for the review , its class

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Don't give up the dream! You'll ride that Indian one day brother! Thanks for watching!

  • @evelkoloski
    @evelkoloski ปีที่แล้ว +1

    12 Victory Highball here, rode a 21 chieftain elite, epic.... going back to slamm down a deposit..

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to the tribe brother! Glad to have you here. Have fun on the new ride!

  • @jag1963
    @jag1963 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm Picking up my 2023 Cheiftain Darkhorse Tomorrow. Traded my 2022 Goldwing DCT tour in for it. Nothing wrong with the Goldwing I've racked up 8500 wonderful miles on her in the past 11 months but it's time to have a different experiance. So excited.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  ปีที่แล้ว

      Awesome! Welcome to the tribe ✌🏻

  • @mjmjphillips
    @mjmjphillips 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great review! I’m a Vulcan S rider looking to upgrade to something like the Indian.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Best decision I ever made. Vulcan S is a great bike, but if you want to cruise long distances and be comfy and really, really enjoy riding - doesn't get any better than Indian. Thanks for watching!

  • @JP-ec9rl
    @JP-ec9rl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good video, great taste in motorcycles, I've got a 2018 limited. Runs and handles great.
    I've got a couple videos of nothing but riding and music here in West Virginia. Still working on the audio to get the wind noise out. Yes I get flagged for the music but don't care. I'm not interested in monetizing my videos. I just like sharing the ride.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love riding with music. Something about the wind and some good tunes that stirs the soul. Thanks for watching!

  • @richardburnett2749
    @richardburnett2749 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice bike I have a Suzuki Boulevard C50 right now I want 1 similar to yours with a radio for my next bike I like how they are nice and light feeling the weight is low to the ground

  • @joelwilliams9362
    @joelwilliams9362 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love that bike

  • @gettinsomewind6384
    @gettinsomewind6384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have over 13k miles on my 19 Limited and haven't had any issues. I ride at every chance and opportunity! So smooth and comfortable. They are some solid bikes for sure! If you love the stock sound system, you will be absolutely blown away with the PB audio. I didn't replace the fairing speakers, because I agree, that's a waste. I just added saddlebag speakers, and my system was instantly upgraded to PB audio! I can still put my half helmet in my bag with no problem. Stay safe and ride on! 👍

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I definitely need to add some saddlebag speakers. Thanks for watching!

    • @gettinsomewind6384
      @gettinsomewind6384 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MOTOBLADE ✌

  • @Danthelittleguy
    @Danthelittleguy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for providing the review on the Chieftain. I have been debating on getting one or perhaps the new Challenger. Where did you have your camera mounted for this video? I would assume somewhere on your helmet? Was it on the chin guard if you were wearing a full face?

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I mount my camera to the chin guard- it's secure but able to break away in the event I would ever come off the bike. It is then wired internally with a microphone. Glad you enjoyed the review. I will be test riding/reviewing the challenger when it gets a bit warmer this spring. Still lots of snow up here. Thanks for watching!

  • @furtcloud1418
    @furtcloud1418 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I recently rode the brand new 2020 chieftain and challengers. My favorite was the Challenger but my only complaint was that the windshield doesn't go high enough to clear my helmet. Otherwise they were amazing bikes and a lot of fun.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Easily fixed with a taller windshield, but good to know! I'm only 5'8 so it might be fine for me. I can't wait to test ride the Challenger. Been waiting for the dealerships to reopen near me. Thanks for watching!

  • @notsofastahole
    @notsofastahole 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i have to agree, i really like the fairing on the older Indain and not a fan of what they switched to.

  • @twinphill900
    @twinphill900 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dirty bird....oh that cracked me up, good work. 👍

  • @Ndiver81
    @Ndiver81 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are there any issues with the heat the engine puts out especially during the summer?

  • @bbusigful
    @bbusigful 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. Greetings from Sweden,Scandinavia. I have heard some complaints about heat from that rear cylinder. What is your opinion about that?

  • @lenspicasso107
    @lenspicasso107 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video. Which country is this?

  • @SIRMMA
    @SIRMMA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I swear it feels like an alien is watching me, when I am looking at this POV shot of you riding.
    Check it out: the top of the windscreen is the aliens huge scalp, the speedometer/rev-meter is the eyes and the two saddelbag buttons at the base is the mouth. Once you see it, you cannot unsee it.
    Disclaimer: I am high.

  • @Grandmasterjord
    @Grandmasterjord 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do you still have your Chief Dark Horse and if not...why? Been looking at the Chief and an FXDR. Coming from the Vulcan S. Any opinions?
    Haha
    Loving the videos.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Traded the Chief in after a couple of months for the Chieftain. I wanted to have the hard saddlebags, the music and gps system. I liked the chief, but I wanted ultimate touring comfort with the same style and power of the chief -chieftain was the way to go. Don't regret it for a second.

  • @HDR20
    @HDR20 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's funny you said the power is there instantly because the 3 Indians I rode the power and throttle response wasn't there seem the first 1/4 part of throttle was lagging. I had to twist it farther before the power started. I like chieftains a lot they are beautiful bikes since the remodel

    • @BlueJ502
      @BlueJ502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. That's why I would go with a stage 2 kit and tune

  • @aminrafiq132
    @aminrafiq132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for a great video! Would you mind sharing the link to the after-market windshield you have installed?

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That windshield isn't aftermarket. It's the Indian brand 21 inch touring windshield. Thanks for watching!

    • @aminrafiq132
      @aminrafiq132 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MOTOBLADE Thanks!

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aminrafiq132 you're welcome!

  • @hadespaganism2405
    @hadespaganism2405 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Three hour ride to the closet indian dealership that sucks ! My indian dealership is about a 30 min ride away ! I would flip out if I had to go to my dealership 3 hours away lmao 😆😆😆 also you have a great looking dark horse ! Mine is red and blacked out everything else 💀

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      When I bought the bike, my Indian dealer was 10 minutes away (20 if I obeyed the speed limit :) Wish there was one a lot closer to me now. Would make life a lot easier! Thanks for watching!

  • @ohn1234567
    @ohn1234567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That bike looks so nice. Too bad it starts at around $76k in Denmark :(.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Damn. That's insane. Only $26k here. Should come over here and ride it back 😏

    • @ohn1234567
      @ohn1234567 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, vehicle tax in Denmark is a b*tch. Free healthcare though ✌

    • @leviaustin5990
      @leviaustin5990 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ohn1234567 over paying 50k for a motorcycle doesn't seem to trump free healthcare... At all

  • @jdpower5552
    @jdpower5552 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Do u experience any wind buffeting on your helmet? I have a Vulcan 1500 now and am looking for something with a better protection. Did u get or can u get heated grips?

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can get heated grips for the Chieftain. I don't have any buffeting with the helmet when I raise the windshield or when the windshield is down and I am riding under 50mph.

  • @Luminosity94
    @Luminosity94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    If only indian has the same number of dealerships as Harley, it would be one of the best motorcycles to own too.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm waiting on the day when there's more Indian dealers. Will be amazing to see just as many Indians on the road as Harley's. Thanks for watching!

  • @jeremygoff9868
    @jeremygoff9868 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What you think about a chieftain for a first bike? I’m a bigger guy that grew up in the country with ATV’s and stuff so I’m not a complete newbie but I like the look of the chieftains and challengers and don’t think I would like anything else

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think it's a fantastic first bike. Comfortable, plenty of power, creature comforts like the audio system, you couldn't go wrong with either of those bikes!

  • @karlneumeister2802
    @karlneumeister2802 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is there a way to upgrade your ride command so it has the weather overlay?

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      As of right now - unfortunately not. But I've heard some rumors they will make the cellular module backwards compatible and release it as an accessory later on. If they did, I would buy it immediately. Would be a great money maker for Indian I think.

  • @martyshepherd5887
    @martyshepherd5887 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've got an 18 Roadmaster Icon and pretty much feel the same way absolutely nothing I dislike and the likes I have go on and on.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Indians are just amazing bikes. Glad you love yours just as much! Thanks for watching!

  • @NewJerzeyNinja
    @NewJerzeyNinja ปีที่แล้ว

    I love my Challenger and I have 4 speaker Powerband audio but I have to admit my 2013 Goldwing had better, louder sound

  • @mindspinn311
    @mindspinn311 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Have you ridden the 116 Chieftain or the new Challenger?

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not yet! Hoping to get to the dealer later this month or next month!

  • @bryancastle8888
    @bryancastle8888 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok ,I love my Darkhorse .upgraded from a 2003 flhtpi lost in a fire.about the 116 ci upgrade..don’t do it don’t do it don’t do it,Speaking from experience,wait till your bike is blowing smoke rings out of the pipes .wear the thing out ..enjoy the fuck out of it and when you wear it out ..then you upgrade..otherwise you just threw away thousands of dollars and maybe a couple hundred thousand miles..And just think when it’s time you got a fresh bike without waste..Rembrandt ...if it ain’t broke leave it the fuck alone..be safe and Gods peace my friends!

  • @krismerchant4982
    @krismerchant4982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    are you in Vermont? I'm thinking of purchasing a springfield in 2023... but these chieftains keep showing up on my radar. Like you... these bikes are hard to see in person. do you ever make your way into Burlington?

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes I'm in Vermont! I don't come to Burlington often on the bike, but I'm there about 5 days a week shooting approaches at the airport as a flight instructor. Nearest place to see in person is Indian at Saratoga Springs NY.

    • @krismerchant4982
      @krismerchant4982 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MOTOBLADE Thanks so much. So confused at this point. I never thought I'd even go bagger... now I'm even looking at the challenger. My decision will be made in March 2023. I've been going to Manchester NH. They've been great.

  • @DrDiff952
    @DrDiff952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the round topped Indian Bags. And the Indian Faring. The new bikes don't have the looks or chrome and are just hd lookalikes not like the Original Ametican V Twin

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. That's why I haven't upgraded to a new one. I do like the challenger, because it is unique, but as far as the chieftains are concerned, if I wanted to look like a harley, I'd just buy a Harley. I like the rounded Indians. They were made to resemble the 50's streamliner locomotives in the original designs.

    • @DrDiff952
      @DrDiff952 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MOTOBLADE I wish I could put the round top bags on a Challenger.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DrDiff952 check out dirty bird customs. The do custom saddlebags with rounded lids for Indians and custom fairings. They could probably hook you up with that look. If you do it, let me know, I wanna see that bike!

  • @Boobtube.
    @Boobtube. ปีที่แล้ว

    why would you put marvel mystery oil in your bike with only 6K or less on it. Just put good oil in it and keep the additives out of it. Great review, alot of topics covered.

  • @russcoaus2043
    @russcoaus2043 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi bro nice bike😎👍

  • @tomkin8506
    @tomkin8506 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought I was the only one who had a 3 hour ride to the nearest Indian dealership.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just gives us an excuse to ride more!

  • @jremeee2011
    @jremeee2011 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I want this bike so damn bad. I’m coming from a cross country.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Go get it! My only regret is I didn't buy it sooner.

    • @BlueJ502
      @BlueJ502 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here. I also have a xc and I love that bike I ride hard and fast and take turns while scrapping the floor boards. Victory are among the best bikes ever.

  • @05ALT
    @05ALT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Is the Chieftain a good starter bike?

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It depends. Some people like to start smaller and then get a bigger bike when they have more riding experience. Some just go for the big bike first. For some it's about what they can afford to ride. I would say it's all about your comfort. If you are comfortable starting on a bigger bike and you have proper training, the. The Chieftain can be a fantastic starter bike. Your ability to operate it safely and comfortably determine that.

  • @SC8terRiderMotoVlogger
    @SC8terRiderMotoVlogger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    🤗👍☝️😎🇵🇭 Niceone and thanks 👍🤗

  • @lowman0914
    @lowman0914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    is this the 2019 or the 2018?

    • @lowman0914
      @lowman0914 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Disregard. I just heard you say 2018. lol I just got my 2019 yesterday, and I love it!

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lowman0914 enjoy the new ride brother!

  • @airtexaco
    @airtexaco 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You’re doing this much seat time on a stock seat?

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I was. I did. However, I have since upgraded to a saddlemen road sofa (video review of that on my channel). Definitely worth the upgrade. All day, no back pain or butt pain.

    • @airtexaco
      @airtexaco 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MOTOBLADE awesome, I will check it out. Right now I have a Corbin and am very happy with it, but it won’t go on a Chieftain. Thanks again!

  • @martind349
    @martind349 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Tsui Yeung savait que les Français venaient du Canada, car il avait étudié à l'école américaine. Je le savais pas.

  • @dleebox2268
    @dleebox2268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro! Bird poop is good luck, of all the people in the world, why you? Grab some lottery tickets, win, send your old Indian😅

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      LOL. Crap! I probably set off the chain events of 2020 by wiping it off! If only I had known :)

    • @dleebox2268
      @dleebox2268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MOTOBLADE not too late, try your luck my freind, hit me in comments

  • @BlueJ502
    @BlueJ502 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've ridin both harley and Indian and I'll have to say Indian all the way. Harleys are crap its more of a nostalgia thing.

    • @MOTOBLADE
      @MOTOBLADE  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I own both. Just did a 3 year review on the Chieftain not too long ago. I agree 110% Indian all the way. My Harley is kinda fun with the engine conversion as a Torque toy, but it's a crap design and a pain in the ass to work on. Indian rules!