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- Inspired by Uber and Lyft - and even hiring some of the rideshares’ executives - a handful of companies are scattering electric scooter across cities first, then waiting for the law to deal with them.
It’s an idea promoted by former Uber CEO Travis Kalanick called “principled confrontation.” Euwyn Poon, cofounder of electric scooter company Spin, refers to it as “innovating on the regulatory side.”
City officials called it something else: “illegal business activities.”
In Santa Monica in September, Bird put scooters on the streets, allowing customers to unlock them with a proprietary rideshare app.
Santa Monica responded by filing criminal charges against the company, which were ultimately dismissed when the company pleaded no contest and agreed to pay $300,000 in fines.
In San Francisco this month, the electric scooter companies, first LimeBike and Spin, then Bird, again distributed scooters across the city, and all three companies have argued neither city had rules in place to regulate their particular mode of transportation.
The companies see it as an emissions-free solution to the “last mile” often walked on foot or taken on a rideshare after using public transit.
Residents complain that riders take the scooters on sidewalks and leave them parked across sidewalks, blocking ADA ramps and tripping unsuspecting pedestrians.
Since their rollout, the companies have been negotiating with Santa Monica and San Francisco on how scooters should be regulated, and how the companies can get their riders to follow the rules.
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The companies see it as an emissions-free solution to the “last mile” often walked on foot or taken on a rideshare after using public transit.
WATCH the Uber of bike-sharing take over China HERE: bit.ly/2w2syCe
As it uses electricity (which in large parts come from coal, in the US at least), the idea of it being emissions-free is outright idiotic and naive - in fact, these scooters have made what was once emissions-free (that "last mile") an act that now pollutes as well. It's a solution to (and cause of) what was a non-existent issue.
Chinna
part of the #MEFIRST movement lol
In the UK they are banned anything with a battery+2 wheels that's not a proper cycle is banned even young children's ones.
I think it’s a good idea just not well implemented. In my city and many others there are bike rentals that have stations throughout the area and it makes it very easy to grab one and get to where you need to go. I think where the scooters fall short is not having infrastructure in place to safely dock and protect them. Leaving them on the side of the curb or sidewalk is just stupid. Having specified docking stations would get them off the sidewalks but could also protect them from things like vandalism, similar to the bike rentals. If something like that were in place people would be more welcome to them, especially because they have a smaller footprint compared to bikes and are easier to use. All in all it’s a great idea just shitty implementation.
San Francisco collected 600 scooters and locked them up. But the city wont pick up the poop or needles.
I wouldn't want that job
Maybe if they improved Muni and Bart people would take that instead. But that's actually fixing the problem and not just patch-fixing a symptom, so that's stupid right.
It does pick up the poop and needles, you troll. Why you gotta false dichotomize bruh?
Start voting libertarian. They are not profit oriented as much as solution oriented. Let the people make $$
The city wants to get cut of the action.
Yeah, because electric scooters are DEFINITELY what’s wrong with San Francisco...
Right I saw +10 people shooting up last time I was there
This is a piece to distract from the corrupt to the core politics, the disturbing amount of vagrants, and the condoning of the drug users in the streets with no police intervention.
like really, the try to make cities more bike friendly to get people on bikes. but if they already start whining about this than just stay in your car culture.
buzztrucker conspiracy theorist much? More likely the writer just thought it was an interesting story.
Lmfao. I literally just watched a video about the Bart center being filled with junkies ACTIVELY using
I find it extremely ironic that people are taking shits on birds for once
magnumtrooper17 best comment show far👍🏻
Right? This comment seriously made me laugh out loud
HAHAAA XD
oh shit son, this is a great comment
Lol ROLF good one.
San Francisco Logic:
Used Needles, Feces and Hobos= Meh....
Electric Scooters= WTF !!!
There is even an instagram account named "birdgraveyard
" showcasing people kicking/trashing those e-scooters
It somehow became an internet meme to destroy other peoples property, wtf
🤣🤣🤣
Scooters are crap and will never get respect. Sk8ters vs scooter kids in the skatepark. Same applies. A ton of these junk scooters, dime a dozen. Lake dumping, they are dumped all over. Nyc will never allow that junk!
If some one drops their pants and craps on someone else's property as a sign of protest, maybe scooters aren't the problem here.
Philip Trotman you're right and is that who we're going to take moral and political lead from?
Philip Trotman this comment summed it all up, lol
It is because California is a shithole state
Philip Trotman i'll shit on it myself it is a blight on the block. when is it recharged? huh? .. then leave it THERE. why do I have to look at it? if you had a paper route in the Richmond district from 1979 to 1983, you had better keep your little cart kit in a garage or back yard, 'cause I wouldn't piss or shit on your stuff- I would set it ablaze, and stick around to make damn sure it burned nice and GOOD.
Yeah,property that used to be occupied by San Franciscans who were priced out of the city by neoliberal technocrats.
Maybe they should focus on stopping public defecation first.
or the homeless problem
Haha original Reich wing trope.
Yes, you're a Nazi if you care about basic public sanitation more than you care about the bureaucracy behind electric scooters. Maybe you're being sarcastic and maybe not, I cannot tell very easily.
Nice strawman argument right there.
Strawman argument opposing tyranny. Maybe America should not allow global debt based economics welcoming Chinese and richy foreign tourists using central banker monies to speculate the American housing market values to astronomical highs. Selling America out like the traitors did is nothing short of ordering up death to America. We can't blame the Chinese nor the Russians for all our problems and the real estate isn't worth the prices unless short term flipping before the collapse and war. Affordable housing and jobs for everyone is the first human need on Maslov's hierarchy pyramid as well as being required to have a united state of democracy.
ban bikes too. and ban walking. someone bumped into me the other day walking. SO ANNOYING! just walking around everywhere with no regard to the others in the city. TERRIBLE.
zapee 3 _Man existing sucks ass, just end it all..._
Caleb Sherman edgy
Yes. Old people need to get high. They complain too much.
Oh hey Karen we've missed you!
"Those things are a menace!' - bicycles, 1850, automobiles, 1905, electric scooters, 2018, passenger drones, 2038, quantum transporters 3348. It never stops.
Yeah that’s very true people always consider a new thing to be a menace
Wait, cars kill thousands of people every year. They are menaces.
@Gringo But I like the massive government spending that goes along with them... taxpayer-built highways, bridges, and roads.
Passenger Drones now Dude!! I've seen them!
CARS ARE THE DEVIL IN THIS REALITY!!
"Unsurprisingly, people hate them!" *Proceeds to show a bunch of old people complaining about young people using a form of transportation they can't use.* Never change Vice.
lol,oldies have no problem with their mobility scooters though
gerry o sullivan it's almost like some old people NEED those mobility scooters.
most dont theyre just fckn lazy,im sick of them banging me in my calves and they know they can get away with it cos theyre like 200 years old
Callum von Schill young people? try entrepreneurial chinese food distribution ..san francisco?? are you on something. eat too many paint chips as a youth. do your saying recharchable munchkin mobiles are a youth movement, like jefferson airplane and lsd? ..step off
Callum von Schill Disrespecting someone because of there age - just millennial things
"get rid of them" says the 80 year old man
What a boomer 😂
😂
@@fcfilms2 Who are you talking about?
I mean yeah, if I was the age where a broken bone could spell the end, I’d also be concerned about people speeding down the footpath on devices that you don’t need a license to ride.
He knows he’s too old !
So basically San Francisco is being San Francisco?
Christopher Borelli SF wasn’t like this, tech was the cancer that destroyed the culture
Yup
yadidimean18 no it didn't dipshit
yadidimean18 eh. Agree to disagree.
MoNgO OoOoOo I was born and raised in the mission district so I saw it go down first hand. Don’t be mad at the truth. As soon as minorities start making decent neighborhoods that’s when tech people come in, rent goes way higher than the original tenets can pay, and they have to move away to another neighborhood. It’s just flat out wrong to mess with communities like that. Gentrification is so sad, because SF was so cultured and fun but now all there is are nerds high on adderall lol
no say what it really is..... the state and local governments aren't getting there cut of the money
I concur
Scooters are terrible ,junkies with needles in their arms every 5 feet are great though.
Brian T and dont forget about street shiters
"People are taking shits on your scooters in San Fransisco. How does that make you feel?"
Jonathan Thomas Asking the real questions
Well, invite all homeless people do some shitting on the rich houses's front porch for being hypocrites.
"Horny Doug. It definitely turns me on."
It feels like a scat video Doug. Thanks for asking.
Such a primitive and old school way of trying to degrade someone or their property.
I wonder why it doesn’t count as street littering. It should be them fools getting punished. Lowlifes of the highest order!
The "law" is you don't need a license for anything that goes less than 25 MPH. Helmets are optional, and lack of parking is the city's fault. It's the government that clearly needs to adapt.
You also can't ride on the sidewalk. Just what we need our streets to look like a chinese shithole.
Jacob Garcia - Then why not go after the riders who use the sidewalk instead of the company? If I do something stupid with a rental car, who gets the ticket and shamed in the media? Me - the driver. Not whomever I rented the car from. But it's a slightly new tech, so somebody is hoping to make money by generating controversy about it.
@@jacobgarcia6760 Plenty of American cities are already shitholes, so the China part was unnecessary.
I would be more pissed off by all the human poop and used drug needles then these electric scooters
True!
First you will get pissed off by those things, then you will be pissed off by scooters?
2 different things kiddo
@@bisdakpinoy3428 3 if I’m being a smartass
And self entitled bums
Nobody complaining about the rent...so lets pick on the entrepreneur that's trying to make life better...
Complaining about rent aitn gonna make it cheaper... Also these people need to use the bike lane dude...
I think the only issue is they just showed up without consulting anybody. It is possible to have multiple problems in a city you know.
I live in LA we have other issues too, but the main issue with these are people not following traffic laws which means they're cutting off cars by going through red lights and so forth and running over pedestrians. As cities with high tourist numbers it's not exactly beneficial for the bottom line and people aren't using them as intended which is to use them for the last mile as they say they should be used for. They are fun and convenient, but where's the line? On top of that some people in the communities just see them as extra pollution on the side walks since people will leave them everywhere. I'll admit working in Santa Monica I can see where people have issues with them then I go home to Studio City where they really don't have any around on the side walks and it's fine I don't have to worry about anyone hitting me or my dog when I'm walking. They need to use the bike lanes and follow traffic laws, but how does a company regulate human error? They almost can't and police won't do much for people breaking laws like this because they as others have indicated have larger problems to deal with. This is most likely going to result in city wide votes to ban or keep them to some degree and the companies will have to think of a solution and soon.
Control The Rent First That's A HUGE ISSUE HUGE.
It's not even rent control it's a lack of housing and we are working on that. I don't know why people treat it like people are only concerned about one issue.
This video has an enormous amount of loaded language designed to manipulate your opinion. Words like: "scourge", "run amok", "invasion", suggesting that someone who has invented a new product needs to have "hearings" or "permission" from the government before they engage in consensual transactions with other people.
More manipulative language: They "dumped" their products on the street, "people hate them", "pissing off city officials", "unregulated", "angry municipalities", "enraged citizens", "Do you know better what cities needs than the city itself does?"
In preemptive defense of myself I have never ridden a scooter in my life, nor am I against laws that control where these scooters may scoot, but when I see a propaganda video that attempts to manipulate with loaded terms that are either outright lies, very debatable, or half truths I think it is right to point out this nefarious activity.
And what's with their biased ass interviews. They basically reviewed 40+ year old Luddite's for an entire portion of the video, to form a negative opinion about them to the viewer. And then let the defence be in two chads, as if all people who ride these electric scooters are douche-bags.
Just rode one in Santa Monica and it is fun as hell
Drakfir TH-cam they interviewed the CEO of Bird more than anyone
Parak33t well said
I liked how you citied qoutes from the video to make your point. But i really like how your post is one of the only posts to be edited by the uploader. Showing how the uploader is not afraid of racist , ignorant, or profane comments but truly fears intelligent and analytical responses.
The Issue is not the scooters but the fact that none of the companies have scooter disposal/parking infrastructure like bike sharing programs like those in NYC have. People are just leaving the scooters anywhere. The main reason they dont have parking spots is because that cost $$$ and to lease land in 500+ locations in the city will probably make them go broke. So instead these companies are just cutting corners and their customers are just leaving their bikes where ever they want on property the scooter company doesn't own!
I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they're just getting location data right now so when that inevitably happens they'll know how much a spot is really worth.
SofaSpy see that’s the whole shabang tho this companies spend little money to produce the actual bikes and tech but real estate in SF is extremely $$$ so of course this companies don’t want that type of infrastructure put in place but we can’t have this just laying all over the streets go to downtown sf and see what I mean
Sam Bien there whole market is in the downtown area which is also the most expensive place for real estate
SofaSpy Yeah, cities suck. They're super expensive and cramped. Good luck living there
actually we do here in sf with the ford bikes
What city's don't want to tell you is that. Every man riding a scooter is one less car on the road.
That’s not in any way true. Some people would just walk or ride their bike otherwise
Every man riding a scooter is one less person that would otherwise be walking cycling.
Every man riding a scooter is one less walking on the sidewalk
You can’t take a scooter on a highway so no.
@@zachbrown3872 Yes you can not legally though most likely. There are electric scooters that can go like 60 mph.
This sounds like a city that's more angry that it isn't getting its cut than angry with the scooters.
Kareem Dahab DING DING DING!!
Well they shouldn't be riding them on the sidewalk but requiring a driver's license and helmet is pretty dumb. I just looked it up and anyone under 17 in cali is supposed to wear a helmet on a bicycle. It makes me wonder how old that law is because when I was a kid there in the 90s I used to ride everywhere without one.
thats what its always about, never about "safety"
Kareem Dahab it seems very much that way
AttentionJunkie the sixties. There was paranoia everywhere.
They are mad because they can't tax it.
lmao
Lmfao fr and the oil companies hate motor cycles cause most get good miles on just 5$
Pikachu that's why they AREN'T bicycles!! the visibility. some form ol bike would be IMMEDIATELY taxed and/or legislated against, due to the higher (much higher,) profile they cast with users ACTUALLY hitting the open boulevards.. duh!! these devices kinda NEED the sidewalk to be viable in their use. another commenter here says seniors should get their mobility scooters out of the way. wow. where i am in westchester new york, i don't encounter those. thankfully.
i dont understand why electric scooters would be illegal but a segway is completely legal.
Alex there’s also boosted boards
These scooter rentals aren’t a bad idea. The only problem I see is that there needs to be a better way of parking them when finished. The video clearly shows people able to get to their destination much faster than walking
2815Juan also they ride recklessly, don’t have safety equipment, and they ride wherever they please. It’s dangerous for pedestrians as well
2815Juan when you use them, it instructs you to park near the curb, out of pedestrians way. It’s not difficult. City side walks are huge.
In Germany I saw the exact same system on bicycles, not only no one complains, the government actually incentives people to use them. The only problem I see here is public behavior, both the ones that use the scooters and the ones that don't.
Siveon Farcloud well when kids and old people are getting knocked over, and people trying to take electric scooters down stairs and off “jumps” it kinda clears up who the real problem is
The users are idiots!
0:59 Never trust a company who’s CEO can’t successfully achieve crossing his arms.
he realized other scooter companies would copy his arm crossing, so at the last minute he switched it up to throw them up to stay competitive
Lmao
WOW OLD PEOPLE DONT LIKE NEW STUFF, THATS NEW INFORMATION!
that was martin scorsese, we dont want this heree, take them away
Old people also don’t know how the caps lock works.
dave, you surely hear that very often, but i will tell you that as well...........you are talking shit
yes the future is so creepy right? why cant everthing stay the way it is, says nobody under 70
the scooters are there since a few months so thats new
Really!! San Francisco is one of the nastiest and worse places I've visited and they are worried about electric scooters?? How about worry about the drug heads? How about worry about the massive amounts of homeless? How about worry about the fact you can't leave your car there without it getting busted into? We currently have a global problem with pollution and these companies are a small step in the right direction to help eliminate some pollution in San Francisco and people are upset?? WTF is wrong with people? I suppose they will be mad at people with electric wheelchair soon!
Sir William Goes actually they use large trucks to pick up and recharge the scooters which ends up polluting more.
dominick lucido sure it doesn't hold a candle to the amount of trash and other pollutants in the city. For the life of me I just can't see scooters being a huge problem, makes zero logical sense.
So you're issue is from a visitor and not as someone who actually lives there..
aarswft yeah but honestly, how bad bad can electric scooter use really be impacting a city of this magnitude? I mean come on.
aarswft people who live there are just used to the nastiness...an outsiders opinion would be the most honest ;)
"How dare these young people find transportation alternatives" -a boomer
Hindru Denver that’s just one way to look at it
"Don't trust anyone UNDER 35", -a boomer
The new mantra.
S Tho Uh what? There are plenty of non boomers over the 35. Plus this isn’t about alternative methods of transportation, but doing it so it’s not a hazard. Not a hard concept to understand.
BlownMacTruck. Kid. The Baby Boomer mantra for psychedelic teens and twenties in the late 1960s was "Don't trust anyone *over* thirty (adjusted in the 70s as thirty five before they became yuppies)."
They are now waaaaaAy over 30 so its funny to watch em old and acting the same way to the new drop out turn on generations.
How is breaking the law innovative? Im all for people looking like dorks riding their razor scooters. But dude could at least get some permits for some scooter racks. Of course that would require a process plus taxes plus more work. Clearly this dudes just cutting corners and fucking people over.
I live in San Jose and I rode this when my car broke down and was in the shop. My younger brother lives far from school and when no one can pick him up he uses the scooter to go home. These scooters have helped a lot to be honest and grateful for it. Sure they have issues such as trying to park them, but hopefully they can figure that out because this is a great idea to reduce gas emissions. Also make them go 15+mph again! lol
I couldn't agree more! And I was hoping for 20 mph.
Johnny Fuentes thanks John. I bought one for the same reason. Plus, my job has a pay parking lot and we don’t get reimbursed, so this saves gas and fees. And no emissions!!!
Someone higher is watching over us.......especially the poor that they try so hard to keep down......they are angry because they were too busy trying to screw others to be able to come up with such an idea themselves to make money💵 and it's now giving poor folks an alternative to their failed bussing and transportation system🚌.....
I mean San Jose, Oakland, and cities south of San Francisco are more tolerant with these scooters/e-bikes. Even Santa Cruz allows JUMP bikes
@@Alusnovalotus no emissions provided the electricity you charge with is renewable*
Its always old people complaining
Screwedup4Life Other people complain about it, too. Problem is, most non-old people are working class so they don't have time to sit around with the news crew.
What are you saying? Old people matter.
bvnxx fdbagbregaer Pretty sure he's implying that old people just like to complain/are uncomfortable with change, therefore their opinion is less valid. I agree that their opinions on change is more likely to be biased, but I think a lot of working aged people would agree with the old people in this case. The ones that commute via the sidewalk want it to be clear and obstruction free just like the road is.
bvnxx fdbagbregaer Im sayin old people fart dust, and thats bad for the environment
I hope they all die soon
I don't see why people are mad with this and not with just a normal cycling bike
If they hit something, it's the riders fault for not able to control something that is less than 30kph
My ideas exacly, ppl complained about bikes and skateborads before this became the new "problem"
Well, yes i can see that being annoying
but i do wonder
if they left the scooters on other people's lawn how they make a business out of it?
does it have some sort of digital lock?
even though it has one how does they deal with battery?
wouldn't it be just annoying for a user to search for the scooter if they want to use it instead of just getting it from a station?
Aron Septianto well people don’t just leave their bikes wherever they want, and if it’s their own bike chances are they won’t ride reckless bc they value it. Also most bicycles don’t go that fast
But also, Just look who said it on the video,.... that tells you everything.
THE THING IS DONT RIDE SCOOTERS ON THE SIDE WALK
"People are taking shits on your scooters in San Francisco, how does that make you feel?" "well I don't love it"
CheeseBurgerEddie ..just shows their stuck up shit attitudes.
Sadly Kenny is too poor to afford a phone and thus no scooter for him..
And you need a bank account
how the hell can anyone have a problem with this? these should be in every city around the world.
It's a common easy transport here in Singapore. Surprised me when the video said people shit on it -_-
This is nothing more than a shake-down to force companies to pay taxes. I guess they would rather pollute and crowd the streets with cars and motorcycles
Yep. With their oversized gas guzzling cars. I mean hey as long as issues don't happen in my lifetime right? They really should embrace it and if they want to regulate it don't make scooter insurance something obscene.
They piss off drivers and they piss off pedestrians.So yeah, everyone has a problem with them,
Thought your pic was an eyelash on my screen
Notice its all old people complaining
Griffin McNulty
Well you cant blame them...I mean when was the last time they rode in wagon?
Bet they miss it😊
Cause they can’t use them lol
"old man yells at cloud"
I noticed it's only the old people are hating them.
So they're making it less fun with helmets.
Griffin McNulty it's one of the traits of a great idea
“unregulated ride sharing” is media talk for “non-big-business, non-status quo transportation”
Big business likes to use the law as a weapon against competition.
Gotta watch out for those people that aren't being taxed to death, do you have any idea how much damage these scooters do to the streets and sidewalks compared to cars?! /s
Well, as a "boomer" I believe some of those tech people and innovators are doing some good things, however, many of the entrepreneurs and techs in Silicon Valley are taking business away from others in a big way with their inventions/ideas. They are smart, however, some seem to have such dissonance when they speak about their inventions, start ups, etc. and do a good job of double talking when they answer the interviewer's questions, plus they do avoid paying taxes, have less overhead due to being internet and app businesses so they don't have to pay rent on office space, and most are non union, and some companies don't pay their workers a living wage, (like Amazon warehouse people and Uber and Lyft drivers, who have to pay their own gas, insurance, use their own cars, etc.) while the CEO's make billions. Internet and app driven businesses are killing many other traditional businesses at an alarming rate. That in turn, causes job losses, leaves tons of people out of work, or doesn't pay a living wage to people who work for these companies who are on the lower rung. How moral is that? It only widens the gap between the super rich and the rest of us.
That's crazy talk Lewis. Next you'll tell me the FAA was just the competition squasher protecting Pan Am in the 50s. And the USRA was designed to crush the short lines and protect the largest railroads in the 40s and 50s. You're right they were.
Funny, neither of those plans worked. Who is Pan Am or the B&O?
Lewis Johnson Im a hardcore leftie but I am 100% on the side of these scooter businesses.
The city needs to focus on the homeless shitting on the streets and shooting heroin in the park instead of these innovative scooters.
Karen Califano
Jesus you're dumb! Probably best your feeble old mind stays off the internet, you have Jimmy to interpret that for you. In regards to tech companies and job loss you have absolutely no idea what you're saying.
The World: OMG WE NEED TO MOVE TOWARDS A GREENER ENVIRONMENT!!
* Green transportation alternative is presented *
The World: OMG GET RID OF IT!!!!
how ist it green ? compared to a bike ?
@@goku21youtub electriccar: _AM I A JOKE To YOU_
@@kimchiva-3950 yes and a very bad joke at that
It’s just the government cause they’re not making money off it
@@goku21youtub you can’t travel far on a bike and require exercise these are pretty cool
They dont bother me. I'm 54 years old.
People should be grateful. Scooters save you more money then a car.
"people are taking shits on your scooters... How does that make you feel?" Lol!
I don't love it you know...
THAT’S MY FETISH!!!
Reminding me of the fart smelling south park episode
Knappy not as good as the person taking a shit when he's done. Lol.
people shit on the scooters not on him. why would he feel anything. the question was retarded.
People become worse than scooter users when they dump scooters in the ocean... 🙄
Scooters are tossed in our river so many times each summer its revolting but thats how kids are now adays revolting!
I think I need to start using more poo in situations where I disagree with someone.
FalconPunch1978
DNA testtt
Poo is standard leftist version of dialogue.
I Comment idk if you're joking or just a SHIT boyfriend lmaoooooooooo.
Nicholas Littlejohn you can use dog poo.
Mayur Bhedru absolutely not, it has to be my poo.
Of course most old people are going to hate this.
Just like when they first invented chocolate
Lamont Coleman HeY don't go there.
old: because it puts them in danger, so yea. Disabled people don't love it much, either.
Because old people aren’t as physical as they use to be so of course it’s harder for them to ride .
LOL keep interviewing the old people who cant even ride them
liltaz94 , your mom knows how to ride them? one day, you will be old, guess you dont know that, right? stupid shit.
Exactly my idea
Islander HP how would I know if my mom can ride one?
LMFAo at that guy saying girls check him out while he's on the scooter.... no dude, no they don't
Lmao I thought the same thing
They actually do..
lol...more like they look at him like he's a totally idiot and that's why they are staring at him lol
No female in her right mind would check out some scooter rider. Wtf lol does he wear spandex while riding a scooter? 😂
I mean they are silent and they produce no exhaust smoke. They are portable. You don't have to sweat on a bicycle when you are in a hurry to your job. I actually think it's a pretty smart way of transportation... I'm pretty sure the older gentleman would enjoy it even, if he had a chance to try it :D
Marton Koch, But it isn't when most of the vehicles on the streets are cars, buses, large vans and trucks! And people! The scooter riders are not only in danger, they add to the danger, zipping in and out between all those larger vehicles, and too many people litter the streets with them. IT'S NOT WORKING WELL. They should go back to the drawing board and come up with something better.
It's not a design flaw, if people 'zip in and out', it's being used incorrectly.Riders should follow the rules, abide the laws, use common sense etc, but that's true for bicycles, rollerblades, even runners.
It's a smart way of transportation, even if some scooter riders don't use them in a smart manner.
Surely they faced the same problems, when horse carts, bicycles, cars started to be popular. They have to be regulated, not banned
Better than BART and MUNI
San Francisco don't have proper cycle.
I agree they don't belong on a side walk and neither do bikes. Zipping along? Nah, they don't look like they go that fast. You can go much faster on a bicycle. I don't agree you need a license for a slow electric scooter, and a helmet is just laughable. If people used them respectfully there wouldn't be a problem. Unfortunately people tend to abuse just about everything.
Bikes are not Motor vehicles, they belong on the sidewalk, You'd never see a bike on a highway so why the hell should they be on a road? they weren't designed for bikes. You are the troglodyte and i hate all bike assholes like you.
No they don't. Ask any one at the DMV and they are supposed to follow ALL traffic rules just like any other motorist. Anything with wheels belongs in the road. (except for wheel chairs)
It's called a Sidewalk, not a side ride. Sidewalks are for PEDESTRIANS only moving at walking speed! They are not for skateboarders, roller-bladers, electric scooters, horses etc. They are for human feet, only!
Bikes might not have an electric or gas engine/motor but they can go much faster than walking speed, thus they belong on the road! It's the LAW!
You don't see bicycles on the highway because it's hard to sustain 65 miles an hour on a peddle bike mile after mile. Highways were deliberately made for cars to cover vast distances without having to put up with stop signs/lights, pedestrians bicycles and everything else you have to deal with on surface roads. Smaller surface roads were made for horses and horse pulled wagons. Then came bicycles before motor cars. But people have always walked and sidewalks have been around for a while and they were built to have a safe place to walk along houses and other buildings, but they were never made for bicycles. A cop will give you a ticket if he sees you on a bicycle on the sidewalk.
no, those are called pedestrians, Motor vehicles belong on the road, bicycles and skateboards belong on the sidewalk. They are not only a hazard to themselves but to to others because they simply can't compete with a 3000 pound car driving at 30-40 miles per hour and causing traffic 10 miles long because they cant peddle as fast. since the the first bicycle and unicycle they always belonged on the sidewalk since they move slow enough where they could easily stop or swerve out of the way of pedestrian traffic. Walking speed is arbitrary, what about people running? do they belong on the road because people are walking? Get your head out of your ass and stop eating glue.
Actually bikes, scooters, boards etc. need their own protected network of paths so that everyone is safer.
Ive rented one of the Bird scooters, they are pretty fast I must say. And people do just leave them wherever they want like assholes. I saw the problem after like 20min of riding one. "Why are these people giving me dirty looks?" "ahhh theyre locals" lmaoo
If electric skateboards and scooters become common, the impact it will have in reducing pollution will be great. Stuff like this is a step toward a better future, but all the old people try to drag progress by attacking innovators. However, I do agree electric scooters should not be on sidewalks, it just raises risk of an accident. They should remain on bike lanes and if there arent any the govt should start making them for a better environment.
I agree. I'd ignore all the older people. They are new to the city by me and when I was walking there, I almost got hit by one, so your correct they should go in the bike lane. When I was there I saw a sign that said they must ride in the bike lane though but not sure if its enforced.
Normal working class people don't have time to talk to the cameras, that's why you only see old people!
normal working class people are using the electric scooter, so they won't have any problem with it
It's selfish to ride on sidewalk in downtown walking area especially where there are cycling lanes. It's shows you're an egotistical ass with disregard for others yet it is now widely acceptable behavior in these divided states of America. 2020 showdown is coming and it won't be just an easy Trump wins and America is truly great again kind of thing you know for we do all know in the back of our mind, it's all wrong so people are acting so greedy, selfish, entitled, and stingy running circles around one another and even hitting people out for a stroll. The police are out, but not enforcing basic laws for fighting, shooting, and road fatalities are a big concern. Welcome to New Europe on the verge of repeating the 1930's. escooters won't last that much longer once they make their money this season off the banged up broken dirty bunch of disposable things. I don't expect to see much again or for it to work out like it did being a hot new thing where they'll lose next year if they roll new ones out in world cities after Winter 2019.
Yes, they'll close HOV Lanes and open SOV Lanes
Some people can't afford cars, and public transportation is filled with sociopaths, so scooters, and e-bikes are the only choice.
Um, what are you thinking trying to take income away from the city by creating a cheap energy efficient way to travel? Think of all the money they will be losing from gas taxes, parking tickets, public transportation fairs and taxes from ride sharing companies.
madeinus2000
Right on!
that's life bud
@notcreative enough. Saying "that's life bud" is probably the reason that it is. Think about it for a second. What if everyone thought like you except a few people. Those few people would dangle you like a puppet and you would be cool with it.
It’s called business. It’s a great thing about America.
Yeah you need to realize that people have the right to any form of transportation they wish. The government making money should never be more important.
"someone took a shit on your scooter.. how do you feel about that?"
Ethan Matthews doesn't make me happy honestly.
Any form of transportation that gets people from point A to point B while at the same time being environmentally friendly is a good thing! As more and more people begin using scooters as opposed to vehicles as forms of transportation that becomes a huge problem from a regulators perspective. Those with vehicles are taxed heavily every year. Those with scooters are not taxed at all. Complainers, no one is against a few safety regulations. That's a good thing. But don't give the state an excuse to tax those with scooters! Regulators, are constantly looking for new and innovative ways of taxing people.
Nah screw the regulations too. One of the last vestiges of freedom in a failed socialist state.
wait, they want you have a driver's license for something that drives more like a bicycle ? that's crazy talk !
It is motorized, and uses public roads. Look it up in the Traffic Code.
Yes and no.in some place even ITS motorize if the speed don't pass certain Limit you don't need license
@@Geno2733 its a damn scooter
TBH these things will struggle to go faster than 15mph unless they have very large moters and high capacity battery packs. I think they should be allowed wherever bikes are permitted to go. It's not the companies fault if the riders are being retards. A better approach by the city would be to talk to the companies about making sure their customers are aware of safe riding practices (something these companies probably already do tbh). These scooters are great fun and and push for a less polluted future. Would be a shame if they all got banned...
ChannelX24 ..dont worry, there already working on a way for these to be charged on solar..
A better approach by the city would be to talk to the companies about making sure their customers are aware of safe riding practices (something these companies probably already do tbh).
They do not do anything of the sort.
El dorado Problem with solar panels is it needs a large surface area to harness more energy but for a scooter, idk how much energy it needs
15mph is pretty fast on a sidewalk. Bicyclists are usually very modest with their pace on pedestrian thoroughfares, and they have the advantage of being human powered and therefore bound to a brain in the social space, as well as being bigger and tending to go in a straight, predictable line. Scooters are "squeeze to go faster" and tipsy, and most of the riders on video were going too fast for pedestrian intermingling.
The irony is how far people degrade themselves trying to stop them.
"San Francisco is a classy, civilized city! These scooters are ruining our classy city! To show my disapproval I'm going to drop my pants in public and take a steamy shit on this scooter! Because this is a classy, civilized city goddammit!"
Can they be sure people were intending to make a statement by defecating on the scooter? Isn’t it possible that public defecation is so common there that anything on the streets is just going to become feces covered?
Round Earth Shill
hahahaha that should be a southpark episode!
@@roundearthshill248 typical NPCs.
Change the title to "Old people in General Hate Technology"
GenX here. I rode one of these electric scooters around campus back in the mid 90's and it was fine because there was literally like 3 others who had one. Those old Nicads were crap batteries though...
I hate technology
+Gill
Old people don't hate technology, but when you're in your eighties and using a walker a collision with a scooter could literally be the end of the world for you. Same if you're six-years-old. You need to understand that. The public space has to be safe enough for women and children and old people and people in wheelchairs etc..
But they should also give it some time to see if it works itself out. Sometimes it just takes a little time to get used to new technology...
Chris Jones I agree. I don't believe they should be outright banned. You give people some heavy fines or lock them up if they do harm to people or property, they will straighten up and be much more careful.
it's not the technology people hate you very smart person
it's the fact that compared to citybikes, these are left on the sidewalk and are generally unsafe
LOL old people complaining again
You will be old. Love to see you on a Scooter then.
@@DrJams @SOME TING WONG ok let's not be rude, they lived in a different time but we do too so we have to be respectful to each other's time and show understanding. I've ridden electric scooters and yes, we need helmets and protective gear but that's not free and for everyone, and i hope cities allow shared roads for bikes, scooters and automobiles alike.
They are right tho
Bullshit. They just dont want to get hit by that because old people get broken bones much easier than young people.
Old RICH people.
Scooters dont ruin cities. Cars do
Jay Jay lol you are uneducated. I can see you have no awareness of public space. The streets are for people, not capsules that prevent interaction and pollute that bring you from 1 internal space to another. Think outside the box dude
I'm not sure, in terms of being worse. Aids > Cars > Scooters tho.
actually i reckon fumes from car's + accidents are worse than aids overall....
Okay, Here is the research;
Aids, 2016, around 1 million people died of aids related illness
Source: UNAIDS (2017) 'Ending AIDS: Progress towards the 90-90-90 targets'
Pollution, 2015, 9 million deaths related into pollution
Source: Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, Lancet Commission on Pollution and Health
Pollution caused by cars are somewhere between 50-90%
Source: not really reliable but that's a broad range.
Uhmm... I'm onto something here guys can i get some funding i'll find out deaths by electric scooter related incidences....
"Do you know better, what a city needs for transportation, than a city itself does?"
City does not need anything, for transportation. PEOPLE DO.
The fact these scooters annoy the people who live in San Francisco... just makes me want to visit, rent the slowest and ugliest little scooter..and tear shit up in it 🤗 while simultaneously flipping off anyone who doesn’t like it.
Should make it a yearly event.
Vince M are u god
Vince M they don't like them because they're too fast :3
thats cool until you meet your nemesis in a hummer H1 Flattening you like a pancake
Youngboychicken no..but he speaks to me and gives me ideas sometimes ...
This journalist should ask himself how the government can know better what the city needs for public transportation.
These scooters actually reduce traffic in the city. They also make getting around more convenient.
"Almost got hit 3 times."
Key word is 'almost,' gramps.
San Francisco is number one in the country in pedestrian fatalities. The guy should be happy he wasn't hit by a car.
He was almost killed...or even worse!
I almost won the lottery 45 times...
I bet he didnt walk out in front of them scooters too🖕
lwolf1952 or worse, expelled
I don't understand why people actually care about the scooter part of this video. I'm more taken aback by Shawn and Max. Wtf? Are those guys even real people?
Kyrre Hellevang Tveiten right? To me they look like they teleported from 1995 and replaced roller blades with electric scooters.
it's san francisco
whats worse is they are probably making more money than you
All Tech Bros must die.
As a San Francisco Native I can tell you that ever since the tech boom of Silicon Valley more and more conceited douchbags have arrived on our city that have no respect or regard for anyone or anything (including the law). And as long they have money they can get away with anything
Just treat them like bikes and they're fine. Drive in the road with the flow of traffic on the rightmost side, rather than the sidewalk, and always with a helmet.
they need banned from sidewalks/pavements let them take their chances on the roads :)
SF is over reacting.
Burt Hollabaugh as they always do, I’ve had people scream at me for not recycling right. San Franciscans are too damn uptight, hence why I left the city two years ago. Bird would have saved me several painstakingly car-less college years walking to and fro from class
We're not. Lol its not a big deal and most of us don't care. People own personal scooters anyway. We do have an issue if you don't recycle right. Get it together Harvey Girl its recycling not rocket science. :P
MW S Do I get credit for being vegan 🌱 at least?? 🙏🏼😂
It's not just San Fran, it's all of Los Angekes and Santa Monica because we are the test markets. These things are a problem and no one wants them in their neighborhood.
Facts! I work in Santa Monic and almost killed someone the other day on one of these they aren't following traffic laws at all...at least bikes tend to stay in bike lanes and pay attention. I was also working in Westwood the other day on a side job and it really seemed like that area alone had about 500-600 bikes around the area. I was talking to someone who charges the other day and they estimate 4000-5000 scooters in the main city areas. I live in Studio City so not so much a problem when I'm home. The fact is is it an over reaction or did the people reacting get hit or almost hit by one of these things? It's going to end up going into a city vote. Bird is trying to buy their way out of a ban it should be interesting none the less to see what happens.
I think these are great, it cuts down on the excessive cars in the street not to mention the emission problems, everyone says "go electric" and when a company "goes electric" and is making lots of money, they change their minds and now "pay a fine" or "get permits" and a "license to drive" do MOBILITY SCOOTER users need a license? I have a mobility scooter and I can' imagine needing a license and/or a permit. Yes it's different than these scooter and there should be a designated place to park them or charge their cards for none proper return but to ban them is ridiculous.
I agree. I think it's older people who get pissed with anything that is new. They eventually get over it. Anything that is electric is good with me. the environment will than everyone later.
I think its good too, but the issue lies in some of the people using it. When these scooters reach more than 80km/h on expressway and compete against cars on road, that is an issue. When people speed on them on pathway and knock someone down, causing permanent damage, thats an issue.
The issue is about the people who use them and regulate them. Or basically, learning how to be a decent citizen when using them
yea the rules for using them needs to be enforced so people use them responsibly and not hit people who are walking. I don't think that is happening so far.
Or people could, I don't know, use regular scooters? That would lower emissions even more, probably even get people in shape.
Why is it okay for enormous heaps of steel to race around at 40 to 65 miles per hour but tiny scooters moving at less than 15 are a menace?
3:22 Boy, no one is checking you out. 😂
AmethystEyes ikr i was like is he deluded or what?
Maybe the hippie girls are lol they are in San Francisco lol
fr lmfao this shit is hilarious😂
Maybe the dudes are
Erik all gay guys love a dude with an electric scooter right???
Oh wow you can just see how biased the interviewer is and how manipulative the interview has been cut.
Doesn't look so bad to me! Just make room for a bike/scooter lane!! Cars and traffic engineering is the real problem! More scooters and bikes= less cars. Get over it!
In dense areas it has been shown that reducing vehicle traffic, aka automobiles, increases local business and reduces fatalities. I think it's Barcelona (might be wrong but its somewhere in spain/italy) that has completely removed all motor vehicle traffic in certain areas of the city and it's been a major success in terms of business and fatality reduction as well as commute time for people that work in the area.
Especially considering how bad the drivers are in SF
This guy sounds like Neil Degrasse Tyson
It's kind of amazing; watching him speak on camera still doesn't dissuade me.
I was wondering who that sounded like.
twitch7771 it is neil!!
he probly has aspergers then
twitch7771 who ever that is
"Those meddling kids" (shaking fist in air)
Force the same rules as bicycle users. Done.
First world problem...
Okay whoever took a dump on the scooter wtf dude. That's just barbaric.
yup it's amazing over here!
Ben: whatever. The platform you are using is located here.
Ben Jackbag Mank Before it was, Son! Pack up we are going to california now it’s Son! Pack up we are getting out of california
bear: more like "Son, We're getting evicted. Maybe we can find some affordable rents in Portland."
Solve the fecal problem then maybe we'll talk about the scooters
lol
Yes!
Fecal?
Debra Lawrence Hes referring to the fact that there are so many homeless in San Francisco that the homeless population is shitting in the streets and open areas due to lack of homeless shelters and bathrooms.
SF is dysfunctional shithole. It was a really nice shity back in the day and still could be if America would really be great again. yea right...fat chance, only lies, lies, and more lies.
"How new is it though? Isn't it just a razor scooter with a battery on it?" . . . Vice journalism at its finest.
I feel like we had this same conversation when the segway became popular.
Richard Powell when was the Segway popular?
i was just about to comment the same thing
Richard Powell
They never was a problem as long as they are manual controlled.
*The oil industry see them as a threat and all other modes of transportation that's not fueled by oil products.*
Just imagine how fast the air would clear using this and other forms of transportation?
Regulations are good and transportation lanes could be created for them.
*ORGANIZATION!*
People are pissed because they ride everywhere!
Relegate where to use.
There are giant segway "heards" in several cities that I've been too, the biggest I saw was in chicago of about 200-ish people at the 5 o'clock rush.
Sparka J the mode of transportation is not the problem with these scooters its the fact that people just park them where ever they feel like and just leave them there. They are really starting to clutter up my neighborhood. Its also not cool for these companies to just dump their scooter on streets without asking city officials permission first. There was a renta bike company that actually partnered up with the City of San Diego to install these bike rental stations in certain locations throughout the city. I have no problem with that set up because the bike have to be returned to one of these designated stations so there is no clutter. Now alongside these scooter companies there are new rentabike companies that did not partner with the city and operate the same way the scooter companies do. Bikes and scooters just laying around everywhere is an eyesore and in some cases a safty hazard...
Why? It's a scooter. Just buy your own scooter, ride it on bike lanes, fold it and take it with you when you reach your destination. What's next? Sharing skateboards?
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan. Why don’t u fking buy me a scooter than huh
kaneki san I'm not your dad.
It doesn't matter who we are, what matters is our plan. Come on mom plsss
matty wtf lol
Just more tecnocrat BS
"Scooters are ruining SF," nah mate your ever rising CoL and huge homeless problem is.
OPERATIONS (AZ)(TX) California has the 6th biggest economy in the world 🙄. The trash red state you probably live in contributes absolutely nothing to society.
hotpockets69 ...yes I think CA just became the 5th just passing the entire UK
Zeksteve Name any place in the world with tens of millions of inhabitants in a relatively small area that could be completely self sustaining.
Zeksteve pretty sure none of the red states are responsible for the sushi I eat. Also pretty sure the trash that live in those states have never even eaten sushi (are you REALLY acting like they're the only places that produce food 🤣). I drive a Japanese manufactured car and red state hicks hate anything foreign produced almost as much as they hate gay/trans people. Also, I THINK slaves were primarily responsible for our railways. Actually, they definitely were. So I'm not really sure if you want to try to take credit for anything related to trains. I don't take busses by the way. If I'm taking public transportation, I'm using uber. So that just leaves you with planes I suppose. Congrats on that milestone. You have that along with crippling poverty, restrictive and regressive civil rights laws, embarrassingly bad education and a reliance on blue states to subsidize everything you people need (because everyone in red states is either absurdly poor or has money, but just doesn't pay much in taxes.)
hotpockets69 well you don't make up your entire state. Just because you don't use a particular service doesn't make it irrelevant. If it was dispensable it would have been phased out automatically, like Bullock carts.
No place can survive on its own. Our World is centred around international trade.
Yet again when people completely miss the problem.
It is NOT the scooters but people's irresponsibility.
Taking more and more good stuff away from the people who can actually use it is literally harming instead of solving anything.
TEACH YOUR KIDS! EDUCATE PEOPLE!
so. you'd need a license for a electric scooter that is slower than a bike. but you don't need a license to use a bike...... and the bikes faster. and uses the road.. smartttttttt
Bikes go fast and slow these scooters hardly break
You do realize that scooters have brakes and you can simply take your foot off the gas and simply put your foot on the pavement.
Bikes are street legal. DOT requires white front reflector, red rear reflector, side reflectors. At night a headlight and taillight. These scooters are geeky toys.
Blue Mountain Edward Easy fix: put the same on the scooters. "Geeky toys"? What kind of argument is that?
Gonna get roller skates.
They aren't marketing this right at all. They need to Market it as a green initiative and also something that will reduce traffic and make everyone's life better. Where this done properly it might actually be really cool. At least I would love to see something like this in my own city of Indianapolis.
Michael Bush tech people are awful at marketing. They can’t hide their selfishness long enough, all their “innovations” are always for their own benefit rather than the cities and communities that allow them to exist. They could at least make an effort to join the community rather than continually antagonize it
They are NOT a green alternative. At all. The system requires gas-guzzingly trucks to drive them around many miles, drop them off, and pick them up every day. Plus they are disposable and last an average of two months. They do not represent a green transit alternative they represent hyper mass disposable consumerism.
That's right Californians only buy shit if they can brag about it later on social media for helping the world while actually doing nothing.
"Not wearing helmets... no drivers licence" wow San Francisco is dumb, it's a kids toy... face palm.
next thing you know, you'll need a driver license to get on hover board
airborneexplorer tired of the nanny state.
its compelling I live in South Dakota we don't have this liberal bullcrap control issue
bicycle license , roller skate license , running shoe license ,
uhm... here in germany you actually do need a driver licence to use one on the public streets
3:20 no girls are checking you out on a scooter dude lol
Lies thats how i met my girlfriend on a scooter
Yea only old people hate it ........ got it !!!
Eduardo Endara Correa only old farts who are afraid of falling off if the decide to get on! 🤣🤣
Edoo, cabron ! you'll get old too and when health declines you'll be scared too
boohoo so let's ruin it for everybody right?
When your old a simple fall can break something and you’ll be injured much longer. It would make me really nervous with young whipper snappers flying past me on these machines one wrong step and smash.
Accurate. Funny how Vice didn't interview anyone under 60 for their opinion on the scooters. Everyone I know loves them!
every one in San Francisco should have the Scooter because San Francisco have no parking space for everyone.
looks like...
that city is all about the money.
When I was there in 2014, I considered buying a push scooter, but decided to not relocate there for it's truly a horrible shithole city. Are escooter actually powerful enough to handle the hills of SF? We have them in Salt Lake City and they zoom along up to 25mph for it's flat in the valley. Few seem to respect the rights of others whether on scooter or in a car. It's gotten crazy. Now I wish to leave Salt Lake Shity for it's not good anymore unless your 6 or 7 figure job requires you to be here.
I for one, think this is an amazing idea.
@@frog9304 I for one think it is actually a great idea. I am paying 600-800 bucks a month on insurance 200-700 for less than a week worth of parking a month and 200-300 on gas. Just because, I refuse to spend over 2.5 hr every day going to work or ride the slow public transit. Car ownership costs me over 2k a month and the scooters seem like a great idea especially since I live less than 10 miles from work. But I do agree this guy's youtube channel seems terrible.
You might say: wait a moment if it is so expensive why don't you just ride the public transit to work? Well, public transit is unreliable so I tend to leave 20-40 min early just to make sure I can get to work in time, and since the transit time is 2.5 hr with equates to 45-50 hr+ a month in time wasted on the road that could be saved if I drove. Given that I can earn 97 per hr pre bonus and pre-tax it would be more financially wise for me to drive accounting for the cost of car ownership.
I think the city doesn't like it because they would prefer you use their methods of transportation which they get lots of funding for
Cities are chasing money instead of pushing for real culpability by going after the company for what individual users do on the scooters.
Sir Dontrip - "so yeah" - So what? Why would they be responsible for what randos do with it? I can throw oranges at people in a supermarket, but I guess cops will arrest the manager of the store, because after all, they own the oranges...
Sir Dontrip - Of course it is possible that I am working from an inaccurate model here. But if so, you aren't really offering any explanation.
Popo Bawa trolls
Sir Dontrip no I'm hip though 😂
Sir Dontrip 🙄🤔
In SF, when people are angry they show their anger with human shit. "#progressive
lol an all new low
I seen how they regularly fill up the subway escalator with shit at Civic Center where the UN and Tenderloin are located. The escalator is regularly out of order and these Parisian toilets didn't work as intended. If you got inside one, it would immediately go into automatic wash mode opening the door requiring one to run instead of pissing. That Startbucks a few blocks up Market street was the only single toilet to piss in in the entire area! Paris is crazy, but SF is insane. In Paris, they rolled out these little piss urinals with no privacy so one can go in public, but it not be a drug and sex stall which should work out. Seems SF would be a hot ANTIFA base looking to kick off the 2nd American civil war. yes that...
The state laws treat electric scooters the same as bicycles so these people riding them need to operate them in bike lanes and on roadsides same as bicycles not on sidewalks .
People can operate bikes on sidewalks numnuts. Kids do it all the time. There's no reason an adult can't ride a bike on the sidewalk too. What's important is that you NOT RIDE THE SIDEWALK as if you were ON THE STREET, meaning, you don't drive 15 mph blasting past door ways and accosting pedestrians. Basically, if you're on the sidewalk, you ride at a walkers pace. If you're trying to pass somebody who is going in the same direction, then you might ride at a speed walking pace. But you don't ride at the pace of a pedestrian sprint and you surely never ride at the pace of a biking sprint. And if you do, then you're liable for whatever mayhem you might cause on the sidewalk. That's how America works, which might be of interest to you folks from Commiefornia. When somebody PALPABLY INJURES another person, being they LIABLE for those injuries, they can be forced to answer those charges in court and a judgment toward remuneration can be levied. That's how Amierca works. And this is how Nazi Germany works, YOUR PAPERS SIR! and arbitrary dictate against all manner of noninjurious behavior and characteristics. Essentially Nazi Germany works by criminalizing people who ride scooters, regardless of how safe they do it.
Mikeykaysuper Is that in California? Because in NY it depends on the county. In NYC you can't ride on sidewalks but in Westchester, where I live, you can.
You might want to check your local laws there, Daniel. I know in my municipality, there are places you cannot legally ride a bicycle on a sidewalk and you will be ticketed. (And yes, most of the footage here would be considered 'not legal' for sidewalk riding) Also, looking at San Francisco's bike laws (yes, they have them) it appears to be illegal there as well.
Mikeykaysuper as many problems as this city has they’re crying about scooters lol. My god liberals. Open your eyes! You’re being taxed at an insane rate, the homeless are shooting up on sidewalks and your politicians have the I.Q. Of a rock. Get your priorities straight.
Dallas The IQ of a rock. Lmfaoooo 😂
I love how people never complained about bikes or anything like that, but then scooter come around and everyone just gets pissed for no reason. I don't get it, I love to ride them.
I got hit by a car while on an electric scooter by a person who made an illegal u-turn as I was almost past them. I'm sticking to the sidewalk from now on (sidewalk speed is limited but getting hit by a car will completely halt an otherwise great day)
great news that you got hit.
Dhiren Fairchild you got Despacito’d
you get a ticket for being on the side walk, not wearing a helmet, and if u left it on the sidewalk when ur done you will also get a ticket for blocking pedestrians /, this is all if a cop sees u
but no one gives
i like them the city is just hating cause its taking money away from there way of transportation
markspencer171 lmao that's fucked but hilarious
Dhiren Fairchild get off the sidewalk fool lol
>baby boomers being cranky and begging for more government regulation
like pottery
MrStifleras i noticed that too. Its like a "its new and i dont like it. Its kinds silly
Holy shit the future is terrible and robots are taking over!!!
As someone who used to love visiting San Fran let me say that it’s not the scooters that ruin the city, the junkies shooting up everywhere, fecal mater, homelessness and litter have destroyed the city. I can’t even use a restroom in a restaurant that I bought food at because of these problems
jared: High rents cause homelessness, but the homeless keep the rents from getting even higher.
It's the combination of young spoiled tech bros and homeless. A good city is a made up of a mixture of all types of people, not just a few extremes.
Jared martinez I e noticed a huge decline in the last 10 years. Sad.
I don’t think it matters what caused the issues the problem is that nothing is being done about them.
#AirBnbRaisesRents
I think this is a great solution that could really be a major factor in both traffic reduction and emissions. Surely the governments should be looking at how to get these things out there safely instead of moaning about it, I mean find solutions why get stuck in the mindset of "problems".
I haven't seen liberals this upset since yesterday
I can't blame you for avoiding the mirror since then.
+Popo Bawa triggered liberal detected
thetedmang - Give them my regards!
Haha, why'd they interview the two biggest tools in SF
It's an interesting story to be sure, but is there anything San Francisco a DON'T whine about? It's the whiniest city in America.
Not the whiniest city in America it’s the most expensive city to reside at in America so if you live there you’re gonna have shit to complain about no matter your financial situation
No, Santa Monica is the whiniest. And if not, it's definitely the worldwide capital of hypocrisy.
Imagine if they cared this much about their immigrant/homeless/junkie problem? No no, I don’t want these scooters in my streets.
LateNightKrew give them to the illegals so they can scoot back home.