My wife is always genuinely interested in my characters. Shes the one that makes me give them depth. "well... Why does he like fighting so much?" Or "where do his powers come from?" It really was love at first sight when she asked me to explain my first D&D character, Somerlad, when we were working at a grocery store together
"But the proudest kingdom in the world was Aquilonia, reigning supreme in the dreaming west. Hither came Conan, the Cimmerian, black-haired, sullen-eyed, sword in hand, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, to tread the jeweled thrones of the Earth under his sandaled feet" --Robert E. Howard, "The Phoenix on the Sword"
Howard is one of the greatest writers who ever lived. His stories don't read like most fiction.Instead, it is more as if he was telling them to you around a campfire. I can't recommended them enough
Absolutely I hate how ppl don't look back at The Conan stories and Howard's Age Undreamed Of some of the best stories each told with fire and yes they are sexy and have pulp tropes but no ones given them the respect they deserve and they are primarily for male readers and I hate that's looked down on now while very other sexuality is embraced but there was so much more to them Howard put as much work into Conan's world well nearly as Tolkien did into middle Earth
@@fullcomicalchemist2195 Tolkien's world was much more fleshed out, but Tolkien had a stable job as a professor, and while he eccentric, he was mentally stable. If Howard found more success and stability in his life and had more friends like C.S. Lewis, and publishers more sophisticated than "Strange Tales" it would have been amazing.
@@bradjohnson5323 Howard also only had 4 years from he came up with the character and the entire world to when he died. Tolkien wrote on Middle Earth for 37 years before he passed.
@@nivekianthen you wouldn’t have gotten characters with grit and founded in harsh realities like Conan or Solomon Kane not every life needs to reach milestones to accomplish what the universe intends on the artist path also be happy his parents were there for him as families should be in this day an age…..sad you Gen Z don’t know what that is
"Most of my dreams are laid in cold, giant lands of icy wastes and gloomy skies. . . . I am never, in these dreams of ancient times, a civilized man. Always I am the barbarian, the skin-clad, tousle-haired, light-eyed wild man, armed with a rude axe or sword. . . ."
@@psychomantis183 Dude, I'm 53, and back in the early 80's (when I discovered it), it is obvious to me that this PnP game was the progenitor of EVERY RPG video game you see now. Have you played Skyrim? Well, you would have never, if it hadn't have been for Gary Gygax & Dave Arneson. Show some respect...
Vincent D'Onofrio is amazing as Howard. And yes, Howard does deserve the credit for kickstarting the S&S genre as it is known today. There had been fantasy stories written before, but nothing with a series character, nor anything in the same manner as Howard wrote.
I have the original stories anthology in my backlog stack. It comes with hand-drawn maps showing that Cimmeria is currently on the floor of the North Sea.
Tell me about your character Kull. „KULL! Eyes of cold gray like sword's steel, a black mane as dark as the SEVEN HELLS. A SAVAGE, bred by a tigress in the wild forests hidden behind the dark shadows of the Atlantean mountains. A slave, raider, gladiator, soldier, general. When he took the crown of ANCIENT Valusia from Borna's bloody skull, he tamed the beast of civilization under his strong hand, ere the world will SHATTER beneath the decadency of the Seven Empires. A STRANGER in a world of illusion, ruled by dark magic of an elder world. He smashed the stone tables of Valusian laws with his bloody axe. He takes it from no one, he'll fight kings, wizards, serpent men, gods and women. Once a young adventurer affronted him, the King of Valusia, he himself became the axe that rived through the mountains of Zalgara that hunted this young fool throughout the whole world until HELL“ ALL HE WANTS TO KNOW … Bob pauses. Falling on his knees, his voice softened, getting dramatic: Kull, a dreamer, watching the beauty of the green Valusian woodlands, admiring the ancient City of Wonder, pleased by the beauty of jeweled Kamula. Looking into the Mirrors of Tuzun Thune, ever seeking for meanings beyond his universe, although he always finds himself jolt out of his deadly dreams of eternity, captured but within a dangerous world.
Nice... here's another one: "I know this: If life is an illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content." I think of this line from 'Queen of the Black Coast' as the Tao of Conan. What do you think?
Honestly this movie made REH just too bat crap crazy for my blood. The guy was an intelligent, articulate, and very well read. The people in his town thought he was weird because he was a Nerd before it was cool. (A very physically active nerd, but a bookish kid)
Well, Vincent D'Onofrio does tend to be a bit flamboyant in his acting. We all remember "Private Pyle" in Full Metal Jacket... Then, again, there was that detective he played on that Law & Order spin-off, where he was so reserved it would have made Spencer Tracy proud. That being said, I think one does have to be a bit "bat crap crazy" to be an author--at least a good one. And Howard was one of the best! And, sadly, under-celebrated
A guy can be intelligent and crazy at the same time. But this movie is based on a memoir by a friend of his so its told from her pov largely from what I can tell.
"Hither came Conan, the Cimmerian, black-haired, sullen-eyed, sword in hand, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, to tread the jeweled thrones of the Earth under his sandalled feet." -Robert E. Howard
What Further Masterpieces could Robert Erwin Howard have given the world if he had not been taken at such and early age,truelly a sadly missed Genius of Fantasy/Adventure/Western/Boxing Genres he had hinted at what lay a head for his Cimmerian adventurer in notes and letters after his death. No movie how every so good or bad comes close to the written word of R.E.H. These Legends of pulp he forged then are as fresh today as when they sprang forth from his mind's eye nearly nine decades ago.
If you read H.P. Lovecraft's "Shadow Out of Time", the main character actually talks to a Cimmerian telepathically. That means Conan the Barbarian and Cthulhu are in the same universe. Thumbs up if that's a fight you'd pay money to see or read about.
@@theblueflame2221 Tower of the Elephant is an origin story for Ganesha. REH was deeply well read into eastern occult mysticism and eastern religions. Yoga Kosha has nothing to do with Cthulhu. Some asshat named Jeff Shanks started that rumor and he completely perverted and bastardized Howardian lore. There is a lot of drama with that dishonest fool inside the circle of Howard scholars. He's well known for bastardizing REH's lore. Conan is packed with Howardian lore. It's ridiculous to spread such falsehoods like you did with Tower of the Elephant. Hearsay parrots just shhh
@@theblueflame2221 not only Conan, I remember one of the stories I read in Solomon Kane where an eldritch monster was about to be released. The way he described it was very lovecraft writing
The master Robert Howard deserves another movie or even a mini-series about his life. Anyway, this film has its positive point which is the stupendous performance of Mr. D'onofrio, who is an actor extremely wronged by Hollywood.
This film is based on the personal story on Novalyne Price and her relationship with Robert Howard. The one person who knew Robert E Howard more intimately than any one in the world, save his mother. And guess what, she loved this film and felt it to be true to life. Maybe if all you skeptic haters stopped your bitching for two seconds, you could actually learn something about this man you supposedly admire.
Apart from being put off by the bad Texas/Southern accents- a typical attribute of Hollywood- somehow I think that Robert Howard was a bit more reserved and soft spoken than this boisterous Lil’ Abneresque portrayal. This is coming from a Texan who also spent a fair amount of time in the Fredericksburg, Texas area growing up.
I read her memoir taken from her diary. Howard went from articulate and soft spoken normally to thunderous and almost manic when it came to things he truly cared for.
I was red MAN WHO WALKS ALONE and im probably only one man who read it and having it in Poland. It was one of the best books i ever read. Meeting people from 1920,s..and Howard Himself..awesome..I also saw movie as well..great
I always find it interesting how Frank Frazetta the artist most responsible for popularizing Conan in the 1960s-1970s was in the late sixties when he first started doing cover art for the Robert Howard Conan books constantly under pressure by the book publishers to do things like give Conan a haircut and tone down the sex and violence elements to his art. LOL just myself I'm kind of glad Frazetta ignored those requests, I just really can't imagine Conan without the Frazetta look.
@@tuckernutter What do you mean exactly? Do you mean because Conan has never been considered to be a PC character? (I refuse to use the term “woke,” it’s become overused and is too much of a lazy cliche term these days IMHO.)
When I win millions I'm going to commission Robert E Howard stories for animation if the family allow. His work is so great, Im so grateful he produced so much material
THAT was beautiful. Vincent evokes the character of Conan beautifully. I'd love to think the real Robert E Howard was that passionate in describing him. -The Schwarzenegger movie was fantastic, a bit of a mix of the stories and something in its own right. I think it would be impossible to make a correct movie of Conan how he was in the stories.
I think you’re right. I think a lot of the non readers of Conan have an only partial understanding of his character, which is the easiest to portray on screen. The savage warrior, whose only weapon is his brawn. But the stories show the many facets of him. His very first story, The Phoenix on the Sword had him when he was older and the king of Aquilonia, and he was seen there too as a savage brute who committed regicide to further his goals, and while they see him as little more than a barbarian, we understand a lamenting character. He wonders at his path that led him here, at the hate he receives for ridding his people of a tyrant, and realizes that taking a throne is the easiest part. Ruling on the throne is something new he must learn. Conan is savage, no doubt. He is brutal and will kill without distress, but he is not mindless. He shows countless times that he thinks and considers and philosophizes about the world about him. While he is a barbarian from the north he does not disregard others like the poet of Aquilonia who denies him as king. Would that he could kill him but that would make him a martyr, and even still, he doesn’t want to kill him either. He laments that they are not friends, to enjoy the other’s company. I am in love with Conan as a character. REH was a visionary, and i can only hope to be as a good a writer as he as my life continues.
I think Milius' movie does more justice to the concept of Hyborian age than to the character of Conan himself. The production design by Ron Cobb just nails the mythical and pseudo-historical feeling of the Hyborian world. One of the biggest contrasts is how much of an articulated snarker Conan is in the books, while Schwarzenegger utters something like 10 lines in the whole movie.
@gundammon Robert Howard grew up in Texas and his passions were reading and hearing stories from Native Americans, Civil War and Indian War Veterans and Ex-Slaves, and many of those tales found their ways into his stories
Some of Howard's Conan stories are in the public domain now. You could try the Project Gutenberg site I suppose, or do a search for "public domain Conan stories" on Google. I prefer books myself, and all of Howard's original Conan stories are available in three beautiful books published by Del Rey: 1. The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian 2. The Bloody Crown of Conan 3. The Conquering Sword of Conan These are the definitive editions. Well worth your time, money or a visit to the local library.
After reading the comments I think I’m gonna give this movie a chance. I’ve recently got into Howard’s works and when I saw this recommended I had to click. I know he was more intelligent than what was right here, but keep in mind he’s drunk and has to give a brief idea of Conan’s character on the spot. Plus a southern accent doesn’t make you dumb. Totally gonna check out the movie know.
Agreed. We can see in photos of REH that he was a sharp-dressed man. Likewise, we can glean from his novels that the man was clearly no dunce with use the English language... ...and it irritates me to no end when actors insult their subjects by making them look stupid when they were anything but.
VredesStall Wasn't this film based on the book by Novalyne Price, "One Who Walked Alone", about her relationship with Howard? I don't think REH's behavior here is exaggerated.
@@VredesStall It's been said that he only dressed up for that main photo that gets used because his mom wanted a nice picture of him. Otherwise he was said to be more accurately depicted in the boxing pose photos. There's a video on TH-cam where they go to his house and an old man is talking about this very subject.
The reason so many of us don't like Milus's Conan the Barbarian" is because we value Howard so much as a writer. If Howard we're around it's doubtful the movie would have turned out as it did. Conan as a slave? For YEARS? Come on! That alone shows that Milius had no care or understanding for the character or his world.
I have read them all, in 9th grade we had to read 2 times a week, and I had no interest until a classmate handed me a paperback book. With in 2 years, I had read them all, and wished there were more made.
The problem with that de Camp's 'clinical presentation' is that he wasn't a psychologist. He made up his mind about what Howard's problems decades before he wrote the bio, and when it came time to write it his research had no impact on his preconceived notions. A far superior biography is Mark Finn's 'Blood & Thunder: The Life & Art of Robert E. Howard'. Finn was able to make use of much new information in writing it as well as areas de Camp ignored because he'd made up his mind already.
@jmen4ever I think why no one else can quite re-create Conan, is because Robert E. Howard WAS Conan, and he was a true one-of-a-kind. It's the same with Lovecraft, I've tried writing similar stories but he was just a one of a kind, and there is absolutely no measuring up.
I haven't read too much into Robert E Howard's life, or much of his writings on Conan, but I have bought, read, and researched his works on Solomon Kane. Can someone with more knowledge than me please tell me if this performance authentically depicts the man Howard was? Because I'm having a hard time believing it.
It's a shame he took his own life, he had so much more to give and it was just one year away from Tolkien's The Hobbit being published. It would've been interesting to see Howard's reaction to it. RIP
@310sucks I hear you, it always kind of irritates me when people consider Fantasy as something that began and ended with J.R.R. Tolkien and pretty much overlook writers such as Howard, Lovecraft, Dunsany, and too many others to name.
How about this? Solomon is a Puritan, a complete mad man, a fanatic. Sworn to protect all that is good from the wicked whether man or devil. He is sworn to god not as his angel but almost like his demon! Built with the savage economy of a wolf, whenever he sees the innocent harmed he makes no vow of saints or devils, he only spouts this one true fact “Men shall die for this.”! How’s that?
Thanks,in a letter to a friend he said I might of been born in Texas but it never felt like home to me,he had dreams of a frozen tundra with barbarian tribes. Our ancestors are always with us,maybe not in spirit but the message is written in our very DNA & I believe we can access this info through our subcontis.
Someone ought to edit footage from this movie to the soundtrack of John Milius' Conan the Barbarian. That would be quite the experience. You could have Mako's narration play while Novalyne Price first reads Howard's Conan story in that issue of Weird Tales he gave her.
“ and when the women felt them tree trunk arms wrapped around their waist they melt like butter on a hot skillet” I guess Arnie was the best choice back in the day haha
He was a momma's boy in real life but maybe not in the way we use the term today. He was a bit beyond that in a way because he was suffering from depresion badly at a time where we knew nothing about it. He was so unstable that when his mother sliped into a final coma from TB he walked out of the hospital, went to his car, took out a gun and shot himself on the spot. Momma's boy? Maybe but more like sick with no way to get help. Damn shame.
In the US DVD there's an interview with Dan Ireland and Renée Zellweger as an extra. Would it be possible to upload it? We only havethe plain vanilla version here in Europe. Thx
Btw: If you have some interesting stuff to share about Howard, I would love to hear it : ) So please send me a message if you've got some words to share
@jmen4ever There was one author that managed to write a decent Conan. I liked Robert Jordan's Conan books. Still doesn't measure up to the original, but it's still a good Conan.
Robert E. Howard's Conan stories were written before comic books even began to become popular with Action Comics... in fact, Conan predates the Hobbit. And much of Howard's writing used Conan to express his own disregard for society's norms and strict superficial regulations.
@jackanaples Robert E Howard created the sword and sorcery genre. That is pretty tough to top, although mind you he didn't do it on his own. A lot of his ideas he shared with men like H.P Lovecraft and other less well known yet in my opinion deserve almost as much credit as Robert E. Howard.
Robert E Howard was a bipolar manic depressive who committed suicide at the age of 30. Some of you feel this performance is over the top. Bipolar manic depressives behavior is exactly that, over the top. If their behavior wasn't abnormal, well they wouldn't have a problem would they? This is a beautiful film and Vincenct D'Onofrio should have been nominated for an oscar for this film.
Well remember 8shield, the my original statement to Laffington's inquiry as to whether he was a bit of mommas boy was that he maybe wasnt in the terms that we use it today. Its fact his mom had TB and required care. Of course we cant state what his mental state was at the time, thats a given. Its also a given that without an actual diagnoses for clinical depression it can only be based evident signs and symptoms perceived or imagined by witnesses.
REH was a tad bit manic, as in he wasn't all there all the time. It may just be fiction on his part but in a few of his letters to friends he claimed that the spirit of Conan basically forced him to write Conan stories. The problem I've always had with how they played it in this movie was that the director and/or writers made Conan the Mary Sue of REH.
As for biographers you have to take them for face value and decided for yourself their validity of there facts but if it wasnt for them, we might not know anything at all. As for motive for suicide, feel free to believe he just wanted to get to the next life as soon as possible and was only being held up because mom wouldnt die fast enough for his dedicated little heart. I chose to agree with the clinical presentation of his symptoms which makes him a very typical untreated suicide case.
"Why don't you tell me about your character?" That's what every D&D player dreams of hearing from a girl! :-D
😂😂😂👍
And when you are lucky enough to be dating a girl who's a dungeon master.. ;)
.......she really is aking a lot of you then,
My wife is always genuinely interested in my characters. Shes the one that makes me give them depth. "well... Why does he like fighting so much?" Or "where do his powers come from?" It really was love at first sight when she asked me to explain my first D&D character, Somerlad, when we were working at a grocery store together
Making a romantic movie about the life of Robert E Howard is one of the weirdest ideas for a movie ever
Ugh,...........sure lets go with that,
A chick Flick became one of my favourite movies. I guess that happens now and then.
@@alexandarvoncarsteinzarovi3723 why what would you call it?
And then there's Lovecraft
@@MrJonnyPepper Its like saying Bruce Wayne is perfect marriage material,
"But the proudest kingdom in the world was Aquilonia, reigning supreme in the dreaming west. Hither came Conan, the Cimmerian, black-haired, sullen-eyed, sword in hand, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, to tread the jeweled thrones of the Earth under his sandaled feet" --Robert E. Howard, "The Phoenix on the Sword"
I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay and am content
Howard is one of the greatest writers who ever lived. His stories don't read like most fiction.Instead, it is more as if he was telling them to you around a campfire. I can't recommended them enough
Absolutely I hate how ppl don't look back at The Conan stories and Howard's Age Undreamed Of some of the best stories each told with fire and yes they are sexy and have pulp tropes but no ones given them the respect they deserve and they are primarily for male readers and I hate that's looked down on now while very other sexuality is embraced but there was so much more to them Howard put as much work into Conan's world well nearly as Tolkien did into middle Earth
@@fullcomicalchemist2195 Tolkien's world was much more fleshed out, but Tolkien had a stable job as a professor, and while he eccentric, he was mentally stable. If Howard found more success and stability in his life and had more friends like C.S. Lewis, and publishers more sophisticated than "Strange Tales" it would have been amazing.
@@bradjohnson5323 Howard also only had 4 years from he came up with the character and the entire world to when he died. Tolkien wrote on Middle Earth for 37 years before he passed.
And he was some poor depression era manic depressive living in a remote home with his parents.
@@nivekianthen you wouldn’t have gotten characters with grit and founded in harsh realities like Conan or Solomon Kane
not every life needs to reach milestones to accomplish what the universe intends on the artist path
also be happy his parents were there for him as families should be in this day an age…..sad you Gen Z don’t know what that is
"Most of my dreams are laid in cold, giant lands of icy wastes and gloomy skies. . . . I am never, in these dreams of ancient times, a civilized man. Always I am the barbarian, the skin-clad, tousle-haired, light-eyed wild man, armed with a rude axe or sword. . . ."
I believe that Mr. Howard is the first Dungeons and Dragons geek ever.
I believe that D&D came long after Conan AND was laaaaaaaaaaame
Between Howard & Tolkien, I think they (unintentionally) "created" D&D! 🤣
@@psychomantis183 Dude, I'm 53, and back in the early 80's (when I discovered it), it is obvious to me that this PnP game was the progenitor of EVERY RPG video game you see now. Have you played Skyrim? Well, you would have never, if it hadn't have been for Gary Gygax & Dave Arneson. Show some respect...
@@timothywilliams2252 Moron - my comment stands, as Conan is very different to D&D, AND I did not like Skyrim. So no, zero respect.
Edgar rice Burroughs: am i a joke to you?
Vincent D'Onofrio is amazing as Howard. And yes, Howard does deserve the credit for kickstarting the S&S genre as it is known today. There had been fantasy stories written before, but nothing with a series character, nor anything in the same manner as Howard wrote.
I have the original stories anthology in my backlog stack. It comes with hand-drawn maps showing that Cimmeria is currently on the floor of the North Sea.
Tell me about your character Kull.
„KULL! Eyes of cold gray like sword's steel, a black mane as dark as the SEVEN HELLS. A SAVAGE, bred by a tigress in the wild forests hidden behind the dark shadows of the Atlantean mountains. A slave, raider, gladiator, soldier, general. When he took the crown of ANCIENT Valusia from Borna's bloody skull, he tamed the beast of civilization under his strong hand, ere the world will SHATTER beneath the decadency of the Seven Empires.
A STRANGER in a world of illusion, ruled by dark magic of an elder world. He smashed the stone tables of Valusian laws with his bloody axe. He takes it from no one, he'll fight kings, wizards, serpent men, gods and women. Once a young adventurer affronted him, the King of Valusia, he himself became the axe that rived through the mountains of Zalgara that hunted this young fool throughout the whole world until HELL“
ALL HE WANTS TO KNOW …
Bob pauses. Falling on his knees, his voice softened, getting dramatic:
Kull, a dreamer, watching the beauty of the green Valusian woodlands, admiring the ancient City of Wonder, pleased by the beauty of jeweled Kamula. Looking into the Mirrors of Tuzun Thune, ever seeking for meanings beyond his universe, although he always finds himself jolt out of his deadly dreams of eternity, captured but within a dangerous world.
Best comment ever
Indeed.
Tell me about your character Bran Mak Morn.
*claps*
Ooh do Solomon Kane next
This is how i react when girl aks me what do i read XD
Perfect! Flawless Victory!
I’m afraid that’s what I might do too! Ha ha.
As a writer this is how i react to, i love to share to be honest, especially with my mother! Especially when its my creation.
Nice... here's another one: "I know this: If life is an illusion, then I am no less an illusion, and being thus, the illusion is real to me. I live, I burn with life, I love, I slay, and am content." I think of this line from 'Queen of the Black Coast' as the Tao of Conan. What do you think?
Honestly this movie made REH just too bat crap crazy for my blood. The guy was an intelligent, articulate, and very well read. The people in his town thought he was weird because he was a Nerd before it was cool. (A very physically active nerd, but a bookish kid)
Well, Vincent D'Onofrio does tend to be a bit flamboyant in his acting. We all remember "Private Pyle" in Full Metal Jacket... Then, again, there was that detective he played on that Law & Order spin-off, where he was so reserved it would have made Spencer Tracy proud. That being said, I think one does have to be a bit "bat crap crazy" to be an author--at least a good one. And Howard was one of the best! And, sadly, under-celebrated
I’m a huge REH fan. But I, too, think he was “bat crap crazy.”
A guy can be intelligent and crazy at the same time. But this movie is based on a memoir by a friend of his so its told from her pov largely from what I can tell.
Eccentric, not crazy. Guy is very enthusiastic for fiction. Just like a lot of Star Wars Nerds or Tolkien Scholars.
"Hither came Conan, the Cimmerian, black-haired, sullen-eyed, sword in hand, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, with gigantic melancholies and gigantic mirth, to tread the jeweled thrones of the Earth under his sandalled feet."
-Robert E. Howard
The Howard's description of Conan is huge.. So strong in the mind of the man who can first saw the barbarian that no movie could ever replace that !!
What Further Masterpieces could Robert Erwin Howard have given the world if he had not been taken at such and early age,truelly a sadly missed Genius of Fantasy/Adventure/Western/Boxing Genres he had hinted at what lay a head for his Cimmerian adventurer in notes and letters after his death.
No movie how every so good or bad comes close to the written word of R.E.H.
These Legends of pulp he forged then are as fresh today as when they sprang forth from his mind's eye nearly nine decades ago.
Happy birthday, Mr. Howard.
You was one of the best writters.
If you read H.P. Lovecraft's "Shadow Out of Time", the main character actually talks to a Cimmerian telepathically. That means Conan the Barbarian and Cthulhu are in the same universe.
Thumbs up if that's a fight you'd pay money to see or read about.
I think that's pretty well established. Conan has fought more than one eldritch abomination.
Both men did exchange letters if I recall correctly.
Xuthal of the Dusk or the Tower of the Elephant are great examples of a Lovecraftian influence.
@@theblueflame2221 Tower of the Elephant is an origin story for Ganesha. REH was deeply well read into eastern occult mysticism and eastern religions. Yoga Kosha has nothing to do with Cthulhu. Some asshat named Jeff Shanks started that rumor and he completely perverted and bastardized Howardian lore. There is a lot of drama with that dishonest fool inside the circle of Howard scholars. He's well known for bastardizing REH's lore. Conan is packed with Howardian lore. It's ridiculous to spread such falsehoods like you did with Tower of the Elephant. Hearsay parrots just shhh
@@theblueflame2221 not only Conan, I remember one of the stories I read in Solomon Kane where an eldritch monster was about to be released. The way he described it was very lovecraft writing
They were pretty close correspondents.
Great Vincent D'Onofrio acting in this nice but underrated movie
The master Robert Howard deserves another movie or even a mini-series about his life. Anyway, this film has its positive point which is the stupendous performance of Mr. D'onofrio, who is an actor extremely wronged by Hollywood.
How was he wronged by Hollywood? I thought he was doing quite well
Who knew Private Pyle was so passionate about Conan?
This film is based on the personal story on Novalyne Price and her relationship with Robert Howard. The one person who knew Robert E Howard more intimately than any one in the world, save his mother. And guess what, she loved this film and felt it to be true to life.
Maybe if all you skeptic haters stopped your bitching for two seconds, you could actually learn something about this man you supposedly admire.
Apart from being put off by the bad Texas/Southern accents- a typical attribute of Hollywood- somehow I think that Robert Howard was a bit more reserved and soft spoken than this boisterous Lil’ Abneresque portrayal. This is coming from a Texan who also spent a fair amount of time in the Fredericksburg, Texas area growing up.
I read her memoir taken from her diary. Howard went from articulate and soft spoken normally to thunderous and almost manic when it came to things he truly cared for.
Is this really Robert E. Howard describing Conan? Wow what a great orator.
Simply gorgeous. My favorite scene from this beautiful movie.
THAT was badass!
I was red MAN WHO WALKS ALONE and im probably only one man who read it and having it in Poland. It was one of the best books i ever read. Meeting people from 1920,s..and Howard Himself..awesome..I also saw movie as well..great
I always find it interesting how Frank Frazetta the artist most responsible for popularizing Conan in the 1960s-1970s was in the late sixties when he first started doing cover art for the Robert Howard Conan books constantly under pressure by the book publishers to do things like give Conan a haircut and tone down the sex and violence elements to his art.
LOL just myself I'm kind of glad Frazetta ignored those requests,
I just really can't imagine Conan without the Frazetta look.
13 years ago damn. I'm a sissy but the standards of the time of this comment have gone waaaaaaay bad
@@tuckernutter What do you mean exactly? Do you mean because Conan has never been considered to be a PC character? (I refuse to use the term “woke,” it’s become overused and is too much of a lazy cliche term these days IMHO.)
When I win millions I'm going to commission Robert E Howard stories for animation if the family allow. His work is so great, Im so grateful he produced so much material
The Whole Wide World, a biopic of Robert E. Howard.
It's a great film, if you can find it, watch it.
I recently read Conan the adventurer by Howard. Man,robert sure knew his stuff writing stories about our fave barbarian.
THAT was beautiful. Vincent evokes the character of Conan beautifully. I'd love to think the real Robert E Howard was that passionate in describing him.
-The Schwarzenegger movie was fantastic, a bit of a mix of the stories and something in its own right. I think it would be impossible to make a correct movie of Conan how he was in the stories.
I think you’re right. I think a lot of the non readers of Conan have an only partial understanding of his character, which is the easiest to portray on screen. The savage warrior, whose only weapon is his brawn. But the stories show the many facets of him. His very first story, The Phoenix on the Sword had him when he was older and the king of Aquilonia, and he was seen there too as a savage brute who committed regicide to further his goals, and while they see him as little more than a barbarian, we understand a lamenting character. He wonders at his path that led him here, at the hate he receives for ridding his people of a tyrant, and realizes that taking a throne is the easiest part. Ruling on the throne is something new he must learn.
Conan is savage, no doubt. He is brutal and will kill without distress, but he is not mindless. He shows countless times that he thinks and considers and philosophizes about the world about him. While he is a barbarian from the north he does not disregard others like the poet of Aquilonia who denies him as king. Would that he could kill him but that would make him a martyr, and even still, he doesn’t want to kill him either. He laments that they are not friends, to enjoy the other’s company.
I am in love with Conan as a character. REH was a visionary, and i can only hope to be as a good a writer as he as my life continues.
I think Milius' movie does more justice to the concept of Hyborian age than to the character of Conan himself. The production design by Ron Cobb just nails the mythical and pseudo-historical feeling of the Hyborian world. One of the biggest contrasts is how much of an articulated snarker Conan is in the books, while Schwarzenegger utters something like 10 lines in the whole movie.
@gundammon
Robert Howard grew up in Texas and his passions were reading and hearing stories from Native Americans, Civil War and Indian War Veterans and Ex-Slaves, and many of those tales found their ways into his stories
Imagined if he discribing elric of melibone
conan is the most kick ass character on this entire fuckin planet.......he kicked captin americas ass.......conan rules the universe man
What is the meaning of life? To crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamantation of de women.
Conan of Cimmeria...
Some of Howard's Conan stories are in the public domain now. You could try the Project Gutenberg site I suppose, or do a search for "public domain Conan stories" on Google. I prefer books myself, and all of Howard's original Conan stories are available in three beautiful books published by Del Rey:
1. The Coming of Conan the Cimmerian
2. The Bloody Crown of Conan
3. The Conquering Sword of Conan
These are the definitive editions. Well worth your time, money or a visit to the local library.
This is great, thank you for posting!
After reading the comments I think I’m gonna give this movie a chance. I’ve recently got into Howard’s works and when I saw this recommended I had to click. I know he was more intelligent than what was right here, but keep in mind he’s drunk and has to give a brief idea of Conan’s character on the spot. Plus a southern accent doesn’t make you dumb. Totally gonna check out the movie know.
Excellent scene from a great movie. A must watch for any REH fan.
I think Howard was more sophisticated. The words used in his spoken description here, don't correlate to his writing style at all....
Agreed.
We can see in photos of REH that he was a sharp-dressed man.
Likewise,
we can glean from his novels that the man was clearly no dunce with use the English language...
...and it irritates me to no end when actors insult their subjects by making them look stupid when they were anything but.
Toracube he's drunk tho. drunk and emotional.
VredesStall Wasn't this film based on the book by Novalyne Price, "One Who Walked Alone", about her relationship with Howard? I don't think REH's behavior here is exaggerated.
@@VredesStall It's been said that he only dressed up for that main photo that gets used because his mom wanted a nice picture of him. Otherwise he was said to be more accurately depicted in the boxing pose photos. There's a video on TH-cam where they go to his house and an old man is talking about this very subject.
One of his neighbors claimed that Mr. Howard read a great deal, and that his speech pattern was bookish (my term, not his).
Bob Howard was...and is, long after his passing...a national treasure. My paleoethnobotany prof thought so, too.
Vincent Donofrio es brillante interpretando al genial y atormentado escritor Robert Howard
Mi escritor favorito
The reason so many of us don't like Milus's Conan the Barbarian" is because we value Howard so much as a writer.
If Howard we're around it's doubtful the movie would have turned out as it did. Conan as a slave? For YEARS? Come on! That alone shows that Milius had no care or understanding for the character or his world.
He actually DOES resemble Howard!,wow !
Great movie!
This to me is one of the best scenes in cinematic history...and you miss the last shot of Novelyn Price's reaction...lol..Priceless :D
Agreed
I’m sure he described it the exact same way in real life
Crom!
Motör Punx stop you fool!,do not call his attention to us!,pray to mitra or set but not crom!!!
James.T .Adams Crom laughs at your weak spine.
CaesarTheCzar do you wish to call down his wrath?,be sile-AGH!(crushed by a boulder)
great film--so enjoyed it
I have read them all, in 9th grade we had to read 2 times a week, and I had no interest until a classmate handed me a paperback book. With in 2 years, I had read them all, and wished there were more made.
Nobody ever said Vincent Donofrio was averse to delivering an over the top performance.
This is damned good. I'll have to check it out.
Great clip!
I love how Conan is described here... but whenever I see this clip all I can think is that Pvt. Pile from Full Metal Jacket is giving this speech
I can't believe that's Vincent D'Onofrio as Robert E. Howard, The Man behind Conan.
Nice movie love that movie! RIP
The problem with that de Camp's 'clinical presentation' is that he wasn't a psychologist. He made up his mind about what Howard's problems decades before he wrote the bio, and when it came time to write it his research had no impact on his preconceived notions.
A far superior biography is Mark Finn's 'Blood & Thunder: The Life & Art of Robert E. Howard'. Finn was able to make use of much new information in writing it as well as areas de Camp ignored because he'd made up his mind already.
what a eccentric performance
@thejesman - the movie is based on the book written by the woman Renee plays in this scene. It's an accurate depiction of Howard
@jmen4ever I think why no one else can quite re-create Conan, is because Robert E. Howard WAS Conan, and he was a true one-of-a-kind. It's the same with Lovecraft, I've tried writing similar stories but he was just a one of a kind, and there is absolutely no measuring up.
I haven't read too much into Robert E Howard's life, or much of his writings on Conan, but I have bought, read, and researched his works on Solomon Kane.
Can someone with more knowledge than me please tell me if this performance authentically depicts the man Howard was? Because I'm having a hard time believing it.
Read the biography about him called Blood and Thunder. This is pretty much how he was; very intense, expressive, intelligent. He lived his stories...
Sometimes I wonder why Howard is not recognized as one of the great artists from Texas? He should be right up there with Willie!
It's a shame he took his own life, he had so much more to give and it was just one year away from Tolkien's The Hobbit being published. It would've been interesting to see Howard's reaction to it. RIP
And then there's Lovecraft
love his discription of Conan>He don't take shit from anyone
Haha. Reminds me of “Clan of the Cavebear”. My sister thought the story wonderful. I couldn’t get the “Barbarella” vibe out of my head.
@jmen4ever I think why no one else can quite re-create Conan, is because Robert E. Howard WAS Conan, and he was a true one-of-a-kind.
This clip reminded me to heft my dumbbells.
@310sucks I hear you, it always kind of irritates me when people consider Fantasy as something that began and ended with J.R.R. Tolkien and pretty much overlook writers such as Howard, Lovecraft, Dunsany, and too many others to name.
I read Lord Dunsany's The Elf's Daughter, man that's some good writing
Here's another thing about Robert in this scene. I wonder how he'd describe his other fictional characters like Solomon Kane and Kull. Heh.
How about this?
Solomon is a Puritan, a complete mad man, a fanatic. Sworn to protect all that is good from the wicked whether man or devil. He is sworn to god not as his angel but almost like his demon! Built with the savage economy of a wolf, whenever he sees the innocent harmed he makes no vow of saints or devils, he only spouts this one true fact “Men shall die for this.”! How’s that?
Thanks,in a letter to a friend he said I might of been born in Texas but it never felt like home to me,he had dreams of a frozen tundra with barbarian tribes. Our ancestors are always with us,maybe not in spirit but the message is written in our very DNA & I believe we can access this info through our subcontis.
Gee, I wonder then why I don't feel the memory of monkeying around in the African Savannah in my subconscious.
a wonderfull traveller
Someone ought to edit footage from this movie to the soundtrack of John Milius' Conan the Barbarian. That would be quite the experience. You could have Mako's narration play while Novalyne Price first reads Howard's Conan story in that issue of Weird Tales he gave her.
conan , the king , thx mr HOWARD...
LONG LIVE THE KING
“ and when the women felt them tree trunk arms wrapped around their waist they melt like butter on a hot skillet” I guess Arnie was the best choice back in the day haha
He was a momma's boy in real life but maybe not in the way we use the term today. He was a bit beyond that in a way because he was suffering from depresion badly at a time where we knew nothing about it. He was so unstable that when his mother sliped into a final coma from TB he walked out of the hospital, went to his car, took out a gun and shot himself on the spot. Momma's boy? Maybe but more like sick with no way to get help. Damn shame.
He more truly had a unconditional love for his family.
In the US DVD there's an interview with Dan Ireland and Renée Zellweger as an extra. Would it be possible to upload it? We only havethe plain vanilla version here in Europe. Thx
Conan in a nutshell.
How did I not know about this movie?
Btw: If you have some interesting stuff to share about Howard, I would love to hear it : ) So please send me a message if you've got some words to share
I can't imagine a writer would talk about one of his characters like this. This scene is overplayed like nothing I've ever seen before.
@Sam Brown Kind of agree. That was a rude and unnecessary comment. Me ten years ago should have known better than to write and post this.
@jmen4ever There was one author that managed to write a decent Conan. I liked Robert Jordan's Conan books. Still doesn't measure up to the original, but it's still a good Conan.
Golly! This dude describeth me!
When bae starts asking about your OCs
Robert E. Howard's Conan stories were written before comic books even began to become popular with Action Comics... in fact, Conan predates the Hobbit. And much of Howard's writing used Conan to express his own disregard for society's norms and strict superficial regulations.
Hey, Its Private Pyle!!
Pretty sure howard would never talk like this from his letters.
Conan!
HOLY SHIT!! That was baddas!!
Can we see the bromance between Robert E Howard, and HP Lovecraft. In the past they were great friends.
More like frenemies.
@jackanaples Robert E Howard created the sword and sorcery genre. That is pretty tough to top, although mind you he didn't do it on his own. A lot of his ideas he shared with men like H.P Lovecraft and other less well known yet in my opinion deserve almost as much credit as Robert E. Howard.
Robert E Howard was a bipolar manic depressive who committed suicide at the age of 30. Some of you feel this performance is over the top. Bipolar manic depressives behavior is exactly that, over the top. If their behavior wasn't abnormal, well they wouldn't have a problem would they?
This is a beautiful film and Vincenct D'Onofrio should have been nominated for an oscar for this film.
He was gone too soon
Well remember 8shield, the my original statement to Laffington's inquiry as to whether he was a bit of mommas boy was that he maybe wasnt in the terms that we use it today. Its fact his mom had TB and required care. Of course we cant state what his mental state was at the time, thats a given. Its also a given that without an actual diagnoses for clinical depression it can only be based evident signs and symptoms perceived or imagined by witnesses.
Which movie is this?
Bob is rad
when he thought up Conan, i bet he was thinking of old time Comanche warriors! big muscled men of iron and fearless!
"...and THEN... we have waffles!"
REH was a tad bit manic, as in he wasn't all there all the time. It may just be fiction on his part but in a few of his letters to friends he claimed that the spirit of Conan basically forced him to write Conan stories. The problem I've always had with how they played it in this movie was that the director and/or writers made Conan the Mary Sue of REH.
I love Vince D'Onofrio, but he was chewing on the scenery a bit here.
As for biographers you have to take them for face value and decided for yourself their validity of there facts but if it wasnt for them, we might not know anything at all. As for motive for suicide, feel free to believe he just wanted to get to the next life as soon as possible and was only being held up because mom wouldnt die fast enough for his dedicated little heart. I chose to agree with the clinical presentation of his symptoms which makes him a very typical untreated suicide case.
@310sucks
Robert Howard is my favorite writer but he didnt invent "sword and sorcery" genre.