I dont know if i can go back into the game unless the developers can help me. Ive gone crazy now. looks at my game logs, i have 124 hours played. Loved every minute except the Dragons Hoard that broke me
Did you ever find it? I also have well over 100 hours, and just can't deal with how much time I've wasted trying to find things. I only want to finish the game to be done with it.
@@seamouse007 got back on and still havent found it haha! went through and tried to go through each section. the mini map is not very clear often times. i hate it. Devs said they released a patch a few weeks ago but when i got on it wasnt out yet.
Yes same her have worked with this for 7 hours now and finaly find the place, the map system suck big time it is almost impossible to get any info at all from it! I was to give up and uninstall the game ! But go north and not deeper than 270 fatoms deep!! If you make a map stone it show mapstone 9 that is very close to the place too!
Just watched, I swear I've checked both places you have shown but I'm most definitely checking in a little bit here to see. I'm pretty sure where you see the orc barricade I just have a blank castle wall with stone around it. Thank you again
There's some versions of the map have those descent sections on the lower level that actually go back up often it's a very large circle on the lower level. With multiple descent locations so it looks like you've already already been there but you have to check every single one.
Whatever they have done to the map was a HUGE mistake! Your map is clear and easy to see where you are. I have long sections and not square blocks of each area. Also, the elevation of where I am is not demonstrated by the area being brighter than the other levels. I would pay to have the map that you are using!
At least you're description helps. I think this game is glitched beyond repair. I spent days looking for the deep areas to find the sunstone, only to find that it wasn't anywhere in my map. I created another world with the same character and found that deep mine right away. The same with this area, I've searched all the bottom area's and have never found the Orc town or the Bone Horde location. I think having randomly generated maps makes this game suck.
I agree, the devs already have fixed locations (well they are supposed to be fixed locations but looking at the dragon horde that clearly didnt work) They also have systems in place for ore respawning so I dont really see the reason to have a large randomly generated cave system that only has like 5 rooms it picks from. Hand crafting would have definitly improved the experience.
I did put in a support ticket but they only thing i got back from them was saying they would consider putting an update for this, not that the update for Dragons Hoard was coming. I guess its just umplayable for me until that questionable future update :(
@@ZackCrain Yeah it is kinda crazy they dont prioritize it. Though lets just hope there is a fix in the next update and the support team just doesnt know everything they changed or added. (as they generally dont)
Looking at your minimap it says 270 fathoms deep for both. So I think that is the problem. I was on the wrong Fathom. I stuck to 270 and found the orc camp.
Ive watched and rewatched your video, spent another maybe 3 hours looking. My area doesnt look anything like yours. When you make that 1st turn with that little Orc camp and go through that doorway, mine doesnt go to a cavern, it goes to a series of tunnels then a cavern but that cavern doesnt go anywhere. I even double checked the other caverns and went down into the mintril mines just to make sure they werent messing with me and they put the entrance in the deep deep darks. I filed a ticket with them but not sure what help they could really be unfortunately. So disapointing
I fair it is due to a generation error :( though lets hope it is out there somewhere and that the devs add a waypoint in the december update, they did state that they were going to make the end game a bit smoother and easier to find for players. As finding the bone hoard is a repeat question I get I imagine they already had plenty of complaints about it. Does really suck though :(
@@GDPDuncan same with me. I'm playing on epic if that makes a difference. it's a single color blob that doesn't show doors between rooms so you never know if a particular room has the access you're looking for. is it because I'm playing on hard?
Only the sandbox mode gives the small rooms. Campaign mode is just the large ‘blobs’.. i was searching for a chest in the lower depths. Do a screen shot of the map, print it and draw the squares on it ( easy) then go through each area on the map and tick off the squares on the paper map. I found the chest after 3 rl days 😊
There seems to be a common bug where it doesnt spawn on the correct layer. (I learned this after this video) But instead of spawning near the top it spawns near the bottom of the world and it goes down like 50 layers. which in my opinion if you just wanna see the ending just take your end game gear and run to the boss room on a new save since that is way faster.
thats a layer I haven't heard it could be on yet. Most people that don't have it on the layer in the video had it near the bottom of the world. This is some pretty interesting information.
:'( yeah I learned after uploading this video there seems to be a very common bug going around that spawns the boss area way down (Like nearly on the bottom which is 50 layers down.)
Ok Im completly stupid or completly blind but in my world I cant find it. Is there a chance that at this point the game could have a problem with the world generation so thst the Ork base didnt get generated? Im searching for this dumb thing now for 3 hours I think and, for now, Im definitly quitting the game for today because Im getting really angry at this game. But this is a cool video and I hope you can help a lot of people with it
Yeah, something we found out (after this video) is that some worlds have a messed up world generation. Instead of spawning it 1 layer down it will spawn it all the way at the bottom (which is 50 layers down)
@@GDPDuncan Hm ok thats weird. I searched the whole room and didnt found anything. There are some to connections to more rooms but there are some little ork spots but not the big one. Im searching for it today or tomorrow but Im fucked up with searching for it. Maybe Im starting a new world in the hope that it spawns
@@GDPDuncan The problem is the ways that are blocked trough dirt are allready open and there are only some sports with adamant left but I dont know if there are paths behind because the map is absolutly trash. I hope I find it if not Im quitting this world and start a new one
@@FALANDOFINANCEIRAMENTE no the map truelly is a mess in this area. It should have a total of 50 layers or so from what I heard which is why this spawn glitch sucks so much.
This seems to be glitched on some maps, I heard some people say it spawned at the bottom of their world (which is 50 layers down). If it isnt in the area shown in this video there is a big chance it spawned down there. I would recommend starting a new save file, since you can use your existing character you can rush down there in a fraction of the time. It does suck though and sadly this hasn't been fixed yet, and idk if they will address it since they didn't during the last few updates even though this is a widely known bug by now.
Hmm, I've yet to find the hoard but I killed the dragon in the Desolation. I just stabbed it in the leg with the spear until it was dead. It didn't even fight back. I hope I haven't broken the quest 😢
Killing it beforehand shouldn't break anything. I did the same and killed the dragon twice in my own world. The way it seems to be coded is every dragon encounter is a different dragon, even during the final fight if you manage to kill it in its first phase like I did :P
Been hearing this more often, from what it looks like there is a very common glitch where this room spawns towards the bottom of the map. (it is about 50 floors) Many people have mentioned this to the devs but it still has not been fixed.
@@GDPDuncan I just found it now... The catch was that the entrance that lead me to it at the top of map was actually on the East side on my map... Every guide always said it would be towards the north and west. So, I should have never watched a guide and I would have found it sooner.
@@saigudbai I wonder if that means they changed it. Because every world I played it was around the same area and I had many people say they got it there as well.
@@GDPDuncan I've been backtracking to understand. When I went north of Mithril Lode, there was one of those central pillar waterfall areas, but the bottom and west side of that one was nothing but dead ends on the northwest side of my map. What I had to do was stay at 252 fathom, and go East at that level from that pillar area. That lead me to the East side of my map and another identical waterfall pillar area. When I descended to 270 fathoms in that one, the West side of that pillar area had an exit that lead me back west at the top of my overall map and it dumped me into a Mithril fissure area and in that spot was the entrance to shadow orc town at North end of my map. I'm guessing that the way to shadow orcs can spawn on any central pillar area, but those can be anywhere on the map?
I had it in the lowest area located in the f***ing middle of that garbage map that has 50layers that doesnt switch based on the depth you are in and you always see just the highest part of it..... almost 20h wasted on just runing around caves that all look the same cause why not make 50 different parts of map when we can copy paste 5 of them and call it a day. The devs should be ashamed for making this and and counting on LOTR fans to buy it. Can't wait to finish it and uninstall that garbage from my computer lol. The more I played it the worse the experience got, tbh I hope they don't make another game like this... it's just painful to play this game with half baked mechanics. Sorry for being so rude, but I no longer have the strength to defend this game and its poor design and state.
Jesus thats insane, and dedication. I didn't think you would find it on a lower layer (honestly it shouldnt be for these reasons) I will admit the game is good untill this final area, idk why or what they were thinking.
Haha, you sound like me at the moment. I have 150 hours in (I reallllly needed a game to waste some time when it came out), but so much of that has been stubbornly trying to find things to get it over with. I'm here because I can't find the final boss no matter how hard I try, but I'm too stubborn to give up. Kill me.
Finally was able to find it with your help. Thanks!
I dont know if i can go back into the game unless the developers can help me. Ive gone crazy now. looks at my game logs, i have 124 hours played. Loved every minute except the Dragons Hoard that broke me
saaaammmeee. i am just annoyed at the game and not having fun now
Did you ever find it? I also have well over 100 hours, and just can't deal with how much time I've wasted trying to find things. I only want to finish the game to be done with it.
@@seamouse007 nope and the developers reached out to me after putting in a ticket and just told me to start over that was their solution so stupid
@@seamouse007 got back on and still havent found it haha! went through and tried to go through each section. the mini map is not very clear often times. i hate it. Devs said they released a patch a few weeks ago but when i got on it wasnt out yet.
Thanks for your help just keeping fokus on going north has done the trick.
Yes same her have worked with this for 7 hours now and finaly find the place, the map system suck big time it is almost impossible to get any info at all from it!
I was to give up and uninstall the game ! But go north and not deeper than 270 fatoms deep!! If you make a map stone it show mapstone 9 that is very close to the place too!
Just watched, I swear I've checked both places you have shown but I'm most definitely checking in a little bit here to see. I'm pretty sure where you see the orc barricade I just have a blank castle wall with stone around it. Thank you again
Hope you find some hidden passage or something and not that it is just not in your world.
There's some versions of the map have those descent sections on the lower level that actually go back up often it's a very large circle on the lower level. With multiple descent locations so it looks like you've already already been there but you have to check every single one.
@@bentemple6043 Ya mine has tones of lower level sections, very confusing
I don't have a whole lot of complaints about this game up until this section of it. My god it's been frustrating trying to find this area.
@@ZackCrain Mine had like 4 lower sections, that led to tunnels, that led to two deep mithril vein areas. Total bust for the dragon.
Did they update the map display over the past year? Your map isn't colored like mine is. Yours is a bit cleaner
I don't remember there being an option to change it to a colored one so they must have.
Whatever they have done to the map was a HUGE mistake! Your map is clear and easy to see where you are. I have long sections and not square blocks of each area. Also, the elevation of where I am is not demonstrated by the area being brighter than the other levels. I would pay to have the map that you are using!
yes because it was older version.
@morePasiGeimaa22 I think they need to revert to that old version of the map lol
At least you're description helps. I think this game is glitched beyond repair. I spent days looking for the deep areas to find the sunstone, only to find that it wasn't anywhere in my map. I created another world with the same character and found that deep mine right away. The same with this area, I've searched all the bottom area's and have never found the Orc town or the Bone Horde location. I think having randomly generated maps makes this game suck.
I agree, the devs already have fixed locations (well they are supposed to be fixed locations but looking at the dragon horde that clearly didnt work)
They also have systems in place for ore respawning so I dont really see the reason to have a large randomly generated cave system that only has like 5 rooms it picks from. Hand crafting would have definitly improved the experience.
I did put in a support ticket but they only thing i got back from them was saying they would consider putting an update for this, not that the update for Dragons Hoard was coming. I guess its just umplayable for me until that questionable future update :(
:( pretty messed up as its effecting multiple people
@@GDPDuncan ive looked on reddit and theres many many pelple with this issue
@@ZackCrain Yeah it is kinda crazy they dont prioritize it. Though lets just hope there is a fix in the next update and the support team just doesnt know everything they changed or added. (as they generally dont)
Looking at your minimap it says 270 fathoms deep for both. So I think that is the problem. I was on the wrong Fathom. I stuck to 270 and found the orc camp.
Ive watched and rewatched your video, spent another maybe 3 hours looking. My area doesnt look anything like yours. When you make that 1st turn with that little Orc camp and go through that doorway, mine doesnt go to a cavern, it goes to a series of tunnels then a cavern but that cavern doesnt go anywhere. I even double checked the other caverns and went down into the mintril mines just to make sure they werent messing with me and they put the entrance in the deep deep darks. I filed a ticket with them but not sure what help they could really be unfortunately. So disapointing
I fair it is due to a generation error :( though lets hope it is out there somewhere and that the devs add a waypoint in the december update, they did state that they were going to make the end game a bit smoother and easier to find for players. As finding the bone hoard is a repeat question I get I imagine they already had plenty of complaints about it.
Does really suck though :(
@@GDPDuncan thank you for the effort I can only hope maybe when that update comes out I'll check again
My world had it set up similar to yours. Xbox here
sweet, good to know this helps xbox players too
I'M DESPERATE! please tell me why my map doesn't show rooms like yours. It only shows a single big blob
Honestly I wish I knew why your map is messed up but this is the first time I heard anyone talking about it
@@GDPDuncan same with me. I'm playing on epic if that makes a difference. it's a single color blob that doesn't show doors between rooms so you never know if a particular room has the access you're looking for. is it because I'm playing on hard?
@@Alenthas it was the last update. The devs decided to change how the map looked.
Only the sandbox mode gives the small rooms. Campaign mode is just the large ‘blobs’.. i was searching for a chest in the lower depths. Do a screen shot of the map, print it and draw the squares on it ( easy) then go through each area on the map and tick off the squares on the paper map. I found the chest after 3 rl days 😊
Amazing! Thanks
Yeah I cant seem to find it on My server, its getting pretty frustrating to say the least.
There seems to be a common bug where it doesnt spawn on the correct layer. (I learned this after this video) But instead of spawning near the top it spawns near the bottom of the world and it goes down like 50 layers. which in my opinion if you just wanna see the ending just take your end game gear and run to the boss room on a new save since that is way faster.
Mine wasn’t down a layer, was on the same level and the forge
thats a layer I haven't heard it could be on yet. Most people that don't have it on the layer in the video had it near the bottom of the world. This is some pretty interesting information.
I cannot find it anywhere and my map looks completely different that everyone else’s. Even the Mithril load map layout looks different…
yea same ive watched this video over and over and my screen doesnt show what your video shows 😵💫
:'( yeah I learned after uploading this video there seems to be a very common bug going around that spawns the boss area way down (Like nearly on the bottom which is 50 layers down.)
@@GDPDuncan
Please make a video on this.
The maps are so different now, I've spent at least 10 hours trying to find this with no luck. I level down, go north, still nada :/
Ok Im completly stupid or completly blind but in my world I cant find it. Is there a chance that at this point the game could have a problem with the world generation so thst the Ork base didnt get generated? Im searching for this dumb thing now for 3 hours I think and, for now, Im definitly quitting the game for today because Im getting really angry at this game. But this is a cool video and I hope you can help a lot of people with it
Yeah, something we found out (after this video) is that some worlds have a messed up world generation. Instead of spawning it 1 layer down it will spawn it all the way at the bottom (which is 50 layers down)
@@GDPDuncan Hm ok thats weird. I searched the whole room and didnt found anything. There are some to connections to more rooms but there are some little ork spots but not the big one. Im searching for it today or tomorrow but Im fucked up with searching for it. Maybe Im starting a new world in the hope that it spawns
@@zeyroxdj Since you have durins axe you should be able to go straight there. It would probably be faster than searching 50 floors
@@GDPDuncan The problem is the ways that are blocked trough dirt are allready open and there are only some sports with adamant left but I dont know if there are paths behind because the map is absolutly trash. I hope I find it if not Im quitting this world and start a new one
@@zeyroxdj I hope you will
not able to find it!
:( Some people found it lower. But a lot lower. I imagine it is bugged in some world and spawns near the bottom of the world
@@GDPDuncan in my server i have 4 more layers lower than mithril lode
And the map reallu doesn't help
@@FALANDOFINANCEIRAMENTE no the map truelly is a mess in this area. It should have a total of 50 layers or so from what I heard which is why this spawn glitch sucks so much.
@@GDPDuncan
Thank you for doing research on this!
I can't find the bone hoard on my map can anyone help me
This seems to be glitched on some maps, I heard some people say it spawned at the bottom of their world (which is 50 layers down). If it isnt in the area shown in this video there is a big chance it spawned down there. I would recommend starting a new save file, since you can use your existing character you can rush down there in a fraction of the time. It does suck though and sadly this hasn't been fixed yet, and idk if they will address it since they didn't during the last few updates even though this is a widely known bug by now.
Hmm, I've yet to find the hoard but I killed the dragon in the Desolation. I just stabbed it in the leg with the spear until it was dead. It didn't even fight back. I hope I haven't broken the quest 😢
Killing it beforehand shouldn't break anything. I did the same and killed the dragon twice in my own world. The way it seems to be coded is every dragon encounter is a different dragon, even during the final fight if you manage to kill it in its first phase like I did :P
I've been searching for days and days and days... map stones all over the place and nothing.
Zero troubles with the game so far, loving every minute of it... But this is killing it for me.
Been hearing this more often, from what it looks like there is a very common glitch where this room spawns towards the bottom of the map. (it is about 50 floors) Many people have mentioned this to the devs but it still has not been fixed.
@@GDPDuncan I just found it now... The catch was that the entrance that lead me to it at the top of map was actually on the East side on my map... Every guide always said it would be towards the north and west. So, I should have never watched a guide and I would have found it sooner.
@@saigudbai I wonder if that means they changed it. Because every world I played it was around the same area and I had many people say they got it there as well.
@@GDPDuncan I've been backtracking to understand. When I went north of Mithril Lode, there was one of those central pillar waterfall areas, but the bottom and west side of that one was nothing but dead ends on the northwest side of my map. What I had to do was stay at 252 fathom, and go East at that level from that pillar area. That lead me to the East side of my map and another identical waterfall pillar area. When I descended to 270 fathoms in that one, the West side of that pillar area had an exit that lead me back west at the top of my overall map and it dumped me into a Mithril fissure area and in that spot was the entrance to shadow orc town at North end of my map. I'm guessing that the way to shadow orcs can spawn on any central pillar area, but those can be anywhere on the map?
Mine was north, and it is randomly generated. Otherwise, all worlds in the game would be the same
I had it in the lowest area located in the f***ing middle of that garbage map that has 50layers that doesnt switch based on the depth you are in and you always see just the highest part of it..... almost 20h wasted on just runing around caves that all look the same cause why not make 50 different parts of map when we can copy paste 5 of them and call it a day. The devs should be ashamed for making this and and counting on LOTR fans to buy it. Can't wait to finish it and uninstall that garbage from my computer lol. The more I played it the worse the experience got, tbh I hope they don't make another game like this... it's just painful to play this game with half baked mechanics. Sorry for being so rude, but I no longer have the strength to defend this game and its poor design and state.
Jesus thats insane, and dedication. I didn't think you would find it on a lower layer (honestly it shouldnt be for these reasons)
I will admit the game is good untill this final area, idk why or what they were thinking.
Haha, you sound like me at the moment. I have 150 hours in (I reallllly needed a game to waste some time when it came out), but so much of that has been stubbornly trying to find things to get it over with. I'm here because I can't find the final boss no matter how hard I try, but I'm too stubborn to give up. Kill me.
@@seamouse007 I gave up because they told me to start over after putting a ticket in. Now I'm putting a lot of time into Baldurs Gate 3
It is am having a hard time finding it😡🥶
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pointless editing at the end
Made the video shorter and my sentences flow a bit better so idk if it's pointless.