I’m pretty sure I know which one. I just ended up giving away the version I had of that converter in a giveaway I had a few years ago. Shame the mini converters for Kaweco aren’t all a fit. The piston one is my favorite.
@@stepheninks Makes sense to give it away when its not serving the intended purpose. I dont think the company had any good way to make the converter fit for all. The liliput is one of their oldest pens (since 1908), so changing the size probably isnt an option. The liliput converter has a folding mechanism which makes it more prone to break, which also wouldnt make sense to use on all other pens. In the end the liliput is more of a niche product and going so small always comes with some downside.
I really appreciate when people dare t afraid to roast something many people love, even if I’m one of the people who love it (which I am). I think it’s fine for writing and though I have huge hands, I can even write with it unposted if I want with little issue. I just place the back of the unposted pen against the inner knuckle of my index finger to brace it and it is fine (for me, but probably because my hands are just the right size). I suggest trying it out if you can brace it that way or similarly. As an artist pen, this creator is probably right on point, but for simple written material, it’s good.
Thanks for this comment! I like being balanced in my opinion, but I also really want to judge products based on my own experience alone. Not for lack of quality, but this one didn’t do it for me. Thanks for adding your perspective!
We have the wee Liliput as well, as a pocket pen for note-taking it doesn’t work well since we spend a lot of time having to unscrew to uncap. screw it on the back, write a line or two of notes, then unscrewing it to screw it back to cap the pen! Not practical for short bursts.
Sometimes I feel like I’m not practical in anything but a short burst. Haha. This is why I struggled.
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I've been considering this pen for a very long time. I like small pens (I've small hands) but since the price is quite higher than other Kawecos... I'm still thinking about it. About the converter... is that the standard size or the mini/sport size? Thanks for the review!
@@stepheninksI just checked and I'm wrong twice. The pen is green aluminum. $60.
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@@stepheninks Huh. I asked because the converter you showed didn't look like mine. Strange they didn't make a mini-converter for the Lilliput as they did with the Sport.
I just discovered your channel. I’ve recently tried fountain pens, I started using them for journaling but I have an itch to draw with them, but the grip on the Lamy I got is a bit awkward. What to buy next for drawing specifically? What’s a good ink? I like the ones I see that don’t smudge if you want to colour in. It’s hard to find reviews that are for specifically for drawing and I really enjoy your artwork. I think as long as you name your videos as fountain pen review for art, you’ll get more attention from people like me :)
I bought it a few months ago and lost it already 😅 I wanted to use it as an EDC, but found that it dries too quickly for short bursts of writing. Generally fountain pens are not suitable for all types of paper and so it could be better to have a ballpoint to avoid bleeding when filling in forms or signing. I really wanted to like it. I even wrote to Kaweco to suggest a magnetic snap cap rather than the screwing mechanism, but they said its not in line with the premium feel of screwing the cap 🙄 anyways. Back to the search I guess.
I know why you lost it; it’s too small. To be honest, I don’t love having to post the pen for an EDC type writer. I don’t mind it if I’m using it for a long drawing, but to have to uncap/post/recap several times in a day… it’s just annoying. Not for me. By the way, I do think that the threads on the Lilliput are some of the sharpest I’ve seen on a metal pen (I’ve seen much more comfortable threads on pens half as expensive), so I don’t know if “premium” is what they ended up with. Haha. I would love to see a brass pen with a mag cap… but for this one, I’m pretty sure they couldn’t make it as thin as this little guy.
Have had many sizes of "ink" pen for many decades. I clean them thoroughly. The ink flow is irregular. Cartidge becomes disconnected. Tried adding some filler to keep the attachment between cartridge and inside of the nib. Frustration. writes well when it's working. Stops.
I’m sorry that’s been your experience. I think that they are not for everyone, but I have not had the issue you are describing with most of the over 50 pens that I own, nor even the ones I have given away.
I think this is the smallest one I’ve ever seen, and since it was too small for me, I don’t think I’ll be looking at anything smaller, to be honest. Not unless someone sends me something for free. Haha.
In the middle of making a video for the double broad nib, I can confirm. Still, I didn’t find the ef to be uncomfortable. If you’re using fine and extra fine nibs, you do take a hit on smoothness of the nib. I am okay with that.
Like the idea of the Supra… I don’t know about the janky looking stepdowns. It seems like it could just be a big brass pen, rather than trying to be two pens.
The Supra has a middle part of the barrel that can be removed, shortening the pen. That shorter pen won't hold converters either, so the Supra needs to be a big pen to meet your wish for ink capacity. I have a brass model and it has that metallic scent. The pen isn't light either. German fine nibs aren't.@@stepheninks
@@jamesjacocks6221 I don’t mind a wider line, but yeah, I have some reservations about an expensive pen like that which wasn’t really made to be either a pocket pen or an oversized pen, but is trying to tow the line between the two. Seems like you get all of the negatives and none of the positives with that setup.
I had to look up the baby Montblanc, and it is indeed A very cute pen. Cute way to spend several hundred dollars too! Maybe I’ll own one someday if I become rich!
1. I was tempted by the Supra which is less miniscule. Deal breakers were the step downs. 2. I have bought Kawecos specifically to get their BB nib which I really like. 3. No converter fits? Eyedrop the sucker, prove everybody wrong (Seattle Pen Club did a 6mo. test eyedropping a metal pen with no problems). 4. I'll trade you my Karas Kustoms Fountain K in solid titanium with titanium nib for it. Even with the BB in it.
1: I considered the Supra, and would still consider it but I hesitate to for the same reasons as you mentioned. 2: looking forward to trying the BB. I’m thinking big piece of paper and a fantastic color. With this pen, I imagine I’ll get about 2-3 lines before it’s done. 3: as soon as I get the Supreme Court appointments I need, eyedropper pens will be illegal. 4: I’m actually into this trade idea. If you’re serious about it, email me at stephen@stepheninks.com. I’ll make it happen.
@@stepheninks 3. Eyedrop is great till that first ink disaster.
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I have a BB Kaweco specifically to use with a gorgeously shimmering ink I bought for the Chinese New Year. Everything sparkly! It behaves surprisingly well and doesn't dry up or gets clogged. But it's neither Supra or Lilliput, it's limited edition Sport.
@ Thanks for the info. I will be checking out this BB nib in a future video. I don’t think I’ll hate it, but it will present some drawing challenges for someone like me, who is used to fine and extra fine nibs.
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Thank you vor the video. :) im about to get mine. A note: Kaweco has a converter that fits into the liliput.
I’m pretty sure I know which one. I just ended up giving away the version I had of that converter in a giveaway I had a few years ago. Shame the mini converters for Kaweco aren’t all a fit. The piston one is my favorite.
@@stepheninks Makes sense to give it away when its not serving the intended purpose.
I dont think the company had any good way to make the converter fit for all. The liliput is one of their oldest pens (since 1908), so changing the size probably isnt an option. The liliput converter has a folding mechanism which makes it more prone to break, which also wouldnt make sense to use on all other pens. In the end the liliput is more of a niche product and going so small always comes with some downside.
@@Xiallaci yeah, that’s fair.
I really appreciate when people dare t afraid to roast something many people love, even if I’m one of the people who love it (which I am). I think it’s fine for writing and though I have huge hands, I can even write with it unposted if I want with little issue. I just place the back of the unposted pen against the inner knuckle of my index finger to brace it and it is fine (for me, but probably because my hands are just the right size). I suggest trying it out if you can brace it that way or similarly. As an artist pen, this creator is probably right on point, but for simple written material, it’s good.
Thanks for this comment! I like being balanced in my opinion, but I also really want to judge products based on my own experience alone. Not for lack of quality, but this one didn’t do it for me. Thanks for adding your perspective!
We have the wee Liliput as well, as a pocket pen for note-taking it doesn’t work well since we spend a lot of time having to unscrew to uncap. screw it on the back, write a line or two of notes, then unscrewing it to screw it back to cap the pen! Not practical for short bursts.
Sometimes I feel like I’m not practical in anything but a short burst. Haha. This is why I struggled.
I've been considering this pen for a very long time. I like small pens (I've small hands) but since the price is quite higher than other Kawecos... I'm still thinking about it. About the converter... is that the standard size or the mini/sport size? Thanks for the review!
This is the short converter that fits in the Kaweco Sport. I was shocked at the size difference between the two.
There is a black plastic (?) version of the Liliput that is more reasonably priced.
@@ichirofakename I think that pen is made of aluminum, but I’m not 100% sure
@@stepheninksI just checked and I'm wrong twice. The pen is green aluminum. $60.
@@stepheninks Huh. I asked because the converter you showed didn't look like mine. Strange they didn't make a mini-converter for the Lilliput as they did with the Sport.
I just discovered your channel. I’ve recently tried fountain pens, I started using them for journaling but I have an itch to draw with them, but the grip on the Lamy I got is a bit awkward. What to buy next for drawing specifically? What’s a good ink? I like the ones I see that don’t smudge if you want to colour in. It’s hard to find reviews that are for specifically for drawing and I really enjoy your artwork. I think as long as you name your videos as fountain pen review for art, you’ll get more attention from people like me :)
My evil plan to deliver specific content to my niche is finally working. Haha. Thanks for your kind words!
I bought it a few months ago and lost it already 😅 I wanted to use it as an EDC, but found that it dries too quickly for short bursts of writing. Generally fountain pens are not suitable for all types of paper and so it could be better to have a ballpoint to avoid bleeding when filling in forms or signing. I really wanted to like it. I even wrote to Kaweco to suggest a magnetic snap cap rather than the screwing mechanism, but they said its not in line with the premium feel of screwing the cap 🙄 anyways. Back to the search I guess.
I know why you lost it; it’s too small. To be honest, I don’t love having to post the pen for an EDC type writer. I don’t mind it if I’m using it for a long drawing, but to have to uncap/post/recap several times in a day… it’s just annoying. Not for me.
By the way, I do think that the threads on the Lilliput are some of the sharpest I’ve seen on a metal pen (I’ve seen much more comfortable threads on pens half as expensive), so I don’t know if “premium” is what they ended up with. Haha. I would love to see a brass pen with a mag cap… but for this one, I’m pretty sure they couldn’t make it as thin as this little guy.
Have had many sizes of "ink" pen for many decades. I clean them thoroughly. The ink flow is irregular. Cartidge becomes disconnected. Tried adding some filler to keep the attachment between cartridge and inside of the nib. Frustration. writes well when it's working. Stops.
I’m sorry that’s been your experience. I think that they are not for everyone, but I have not had the issue you are describing with most of the over 50 pens that I own, nor even the ones I have given away.
Do you know any other fountain pens that are even smaller? I’m looking for one a little less than the length of a credit card.
I think this is the smallest one I’ve ever seen, and since it was too small for me, I don’t think I’ll be looking at anything smaller, to be honest. Not unless someone sends me something for free. Haha.
I heard the medium nibs are less scratchy
In the middle of making a video for the double broad nib, I can confirm. Still, I didn’t find the ef to be uncomfortable. If you’re using fine and extra fine nibs, you do take a hit on smoothness of the nib. I am okay with that.
Sell that pen and try the Supra. You might like it better as it can be longer and accepts a standard international converter.
Like the idea of the Supra… I don’t know about the janky looking stepdowns. It seems like it could just be a big brass pen, rather than trying to be two pens.
@@stepheninks I have not tried it yet either. I have tried the sport and liked the nib.
The Supra has a middle part of the barrel that can be removed, shortening the pen. That shorter pen won't hold converters either, so the Supra needs to be a big pen to meet your wish for ink capacity. I have a brass model and it has that metallic scent. The pen isn't light either. German fine nibs aren't.@@stepheninks
@@jamesjacocks6221 I don’t mind a wider line, but yeah, I have some reservations about an expensive pen like that which wasn’t really made to be either a pocket pen or an oversized pen, but is trying to tow the line between the two. Seems like you get all of the negatives and none of the positives with that setup.
@@arcboy2011 If you like the Sort nib, you should like the liliput nib. Most of my complaints are about the body size and sharp edges of the metal.
very cool box made by nice chinese hands... and the pen is super cute. Not as cute as the baby Montblanc though. ❤
I had to look up the baby Montblanc, and it is indeed A very cute pen. Cute way to spend several hundred dollars too! Maybe I’ll own one someday if I become rich!
1. I was tempted by the Supra which is less miniscule. Deal breakers were the step downs.
2. I have bought Kawecos specifically to get their BB nib which I really like.
3. No converter fits? Eyedrop the sucker, prove everybody wrong (Seattle Pen Club did a 6mo. test eyedropping a metal pen with no problems).
4. I'll trade you my Karas Kustoms Fountain K in solid titanium with titanium nib for it. Even with the BB in it.
1: I considered the Supra, and would still consider it but I hesitate to for the same reasons as you mentioned.
2: looking forward to trying the BB. I’m thinking big piece of paper and a fantastic color. With this pen, I imagine I’ll get about 2-3 lines before it’s done.
3: as soon as I get the Supreme Court appointments I need, eyedropper pens will be illegal.
4: I’m actually into this trade idea. If you’re serious about it, email me at stephen@stepheninks.com. I’ll make it happen.
@@stepheninks 3. Eyedrop is great till that first ink disaster.
I have a BB Kaweco specifically to use with a gorgeously shimmering ink I bought for the Chinese New Year. Everything sparkly! It behaves surprisingly well and doesn't dry up or gets clogged. But it's neither Supra or Lilliput, it's limited edition Sport.
Eyedrop is what you experience when your eyedropper pen leaks on your favorite shirt.@@stepheninks
@ Thanks for the info. I will be checking out this BB nib in a future video. I don’t think I’ll hate it, but it will present some drawing challenges for someone like me, who is used to fine and extra fine nibs.