Police Duty Belt in 2023
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 ต.ค. 2023
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Do a video of whats in your cruiser.
Bam: th-cam.com/video/0M9efdWLL04/w-d-xo.html
In 1987 I had a S&W revolver with two speedloaders(18 rounds total), 2 sets of Peerless handcuffs, a portable radio and old hickory that got jammed between the seats. When I retired in 2020, I had a Glock with 2 extra 15 round mags, 2 sets of ASP cuffs, a large ASP baton, pepper spray, radio, med kit, body cam, body armor, 2 30 round AR mags and a M4 between the seats with an electronic release. Luckily I didn't have to carry a taser. No wonder my back is screwed up.
Never heard anyone in a gun fight ever say man I wish I had less rounds. Keep the 3rd mag prepare for the worst and hope for the best.
The magazine is usually the first thing to fail too so it’s good to keep that in mind
I'm glad you used the hair tie! I've recommended these for years. It's super nice because it's durable but also possible to rip in an emergency, like the middle ground between a ranger band and rubberband. Great video.
Thank you for your service. 💙
Klaus and George thank you for all your effort enforcing their laws and regulations. Couldn’t do it without you. Literally
Thank you for keeping us all safe! 😊
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One essential thing that i have learned through competition shooting is to apply velcro strips on the inside of any holster or attachment you add to your belt. This way you lose no velcro retention of your inner belt with the addition of things that you carry. You should try it
2:51 "VERY MINIBAL"😂
Thx for the video, you rule Tommy!
Another item that I carry which I recommend to everyone is TCH speedcuffs. They have saved me from having serious uses of force several times because they allow you to control someone completely once the first cuff is applied.
All you need is regular S&W CUFFS, .Maybe some small cuffs, and a par of leg shackles.
@@tax905972No, regular S&W cuffs are good for keeping a compliant arrestee compliant. But, rigid cuffs allow you to take an uncooperative person into custody because they give you total control over their arm once you get the first cuff on.
Your set up is adequate and functional. I do like the shoulder light for safety and it’s small and powerful.
I'm gonna say , the extra mag. I'm confident in the fact that if the situation ever arises that you need a third mag you'll be glad it's there. Thank you for what you do. My father and two of his brothers were police men. My dad left the force shortly after I was born. My uncle's stayed on and had remarkable careers. And retired intact and healthy. Hope you can do the same officer. I lost my left eye as a child, removing my dream of military and civil service.
that’s awful but you can always go into the private sector and help law enforcement that way
I know a cop with one eye. That's not a disqualifier everywhere.
Small departments need them because backup could be 30 minutes away.
I wish I hadn’t got rid of my old belt set up. The brand was Bianca leather out of Temecula, California. The quality was superb and not near as bulky as Safariland, Galco, and others. Still remember my breakfront holster, which worked fantastic.
I'm 18 now and hope to become an Indiana State Trooper by 21. Although I have lots of time, These videos help a lot to understand what I should be looking for and forward too. Thanks!
Some advice if you wanted it: get into lifting and HIIT cardio, focus on those over everything else. State Troopers require you to hold your own without backup for their training just about everywhere in the US since you're typically patrolling such large areas. Pumping iron and HIIT will greatly help.
@@bebop_557are u in law enforcement?
Dude find an agency that will actually pay you. Most likely out of state.
You think you have lots of time but you are not guaranteed tomorrow.
Leave the state and find a better paying agency. If they not paying 6 figures after 5 years, go somewhere else. Remember you putting your life on the line. Serve in the military, full time, for 4 years the police like that. Then stay on as a reserve while working as a police officer 👮♀️. Earn two pensions. But your state’s pay is trash.
9:05 Cattail Antennas, you can loop them through your carrier out of the way
You can also get a quick detachment version, I think called SMA connector don't quote Me, so it's not locked on you your carrier when you need to take your radio off to charge it
It also let's you quick change between antenna sizes
I also carry 2 TQs, I have a CAT Gen7 on my duty belt which is solely for me since it's easier to apply a CAT to yourself/one handed. Also if I go down, anyone can see the TQ and easily apply it to me. In my IFAK on my vest, I have a SOF-T Wide Gen4 folded up which is the TQ that I give to others. I would always carry at least 2 flashlights on top of a WML and a pen light in my IFAK, I personally like extended mags in the TACO pouch mounted to the vest and a spare standard proprietary mag on the belt. This way you're not giving up a 3rd mag and it's fairly unobtrusive and not a lot of extra weight on the belt at all, then relegate the 3rd TACO pouch to something like a flashlight.
I will say, if your agency allows it to grab a Safariland Hardwire which is rifle rated soft armor with years of data behind it. When it comes to Safariland, always get the concealed carrier because you can stick the entire thing into any overt carrier and use it with any rifle plate. Because the concealed armor is still in the original carrier it came with, it won't void Safariland's warranty. I've been loving my Hardwire and just got a brand new Second Chance carrier made to me which has been fantastic.
A light that can throw like that is good for looking through window tint.
Super helpful for those sketchy traffic stops.
We used to carry the APX 7000. I bought a stubby antenna that did not seem to degrade the reception and was exponentially smaller than that big thing you have on your radio.
I too brought a stubby from amazon for about $6.00, it works great and is matched for the APX 7000.
My department now allows load bearing outer carriers. The Safariland Oregon City 2.0. We had to buy them ourselves. I recently got mine after 12 weeks and want to get HSGI tacos to get my mags, flashlight, TQ, pepperspray, and my department issue BWC on my carrier. This stuff isn't cheap.
I'm not a cop. I wanted to be one, but I don't think I could get through the physical training. If it were me, I'd probably keep a third mag in front in case you needed it! God Bless you and Thank you so much for your service!!
If you still want to become a police officer, in some jurisdictions will let you do so if you can make it through the academy & make it through the hiring process. Along with you not having any major health issues & a criminal record that can bar you from being a LEO.
Lol physical training. Please I see no reason why you couldn't unless you're 300 pounds.
Even if you were 300 pounds, start walking. Then run as long and hard as you can, every day. Eventually you’ll blow past whatever minimum hiring standard and bam you have achieved your dream.
@@GeauxRussGeaux exactly. Standards for police seem sub par at best.
@@fly1ngpapaya and then never PT test again for the rest of your career. At least, every department in my part of the country doesn’t.
Always watch your 6 sir.God bless
You could get a extension cable for the antenna. Run the wire through the vest from the radio to back were you could find a comfortable place to mount the antenna in a armor pocket. I do something similar. I run a cable from my radio through my shoulder harness to the antenna mounted on my water bladders carrier.
Thank you for your and for everything you do to help keep the public safe I actually want to become a police officer with the GPD in Texas
I like the ASP Exo Case my only complaint about it is that the case itself is very difficult to take off I personally just prefer to use a regular handcuff case that was it is just easier to move it around instead trying to sit there and struggle one thing off
I'm retired from Chicago what convinced me that you are the real police was your crown royal bag
n-ear ear pieces are INSANELY good. and they are microscopic. i use only them, they also do not block hearing in the worn ear. the wire is so thin if i need to throw on ear pro over them i can without having to transfer to ear pro with comms.
You can get short antennas for the apx series radios. I use them when I where my radio strap at work.
I work for Radio Communication for the province of New Brunswick in Canada. A lot of our LEO like the NAR6595A Stubby antennas for vest and belt carry. Compatible with APZ Portable radios.
I carry an APX6000, and our mics have the antenna on them. Most of our guys have removed the antenna from the radio itself with no change in coverage. Might be worth looking into at your agency.
Tommy, just wanted to let you know that Motorola had an issue with the old revisions of those speaker mics. Hence the fraying of the cord. It's a common issue and they recently put out a new revision of mics that replaces the old plastic used on those. Look for part number PMMN4050AL. The "L" at the end of the part number means it uses the new plastic and is far stretchier and less susceptible to fraying and tearing.
The radio holster is cool but I found with the turtle back holster I would have to do a lot to switch channels/zones. Big city cops know what I’m talking about. I find it easier to have the classic Safariland holster to slide out the entire radio if I need to play with it.
See if you can get an Impres 2 battery for the radio. They are the smaller size with the capacity of the big batteries. Depending on what frequency band you use, you can get a stubby antenna.
9:08 run the radio with the antenna just behind your armpit at your aprox 8 o’clock I’d also recommend looking into a flexible/foldable antenna if the antenna is removable
I run an antenna relocation kit for my APX. It allows me to route the antenna to the back of my vest without it poking me in the armpits.
I wish my dept let us buy our own cuffs, but I am stuck with the issued S&W cuffs
I'm not supposed to have non-issued gear, but when they decided not to issue us more than one set of cuffs I said screw it. Some times I might need to cuff more than one subject, yeah I'm not gambling with my safety
@williambetzelberger6128 I don't blame ya. The moment they stop supporting you, you gotta support yourself.
@@SmokeSAS true that
That's messed up that they only give you guys one set of cuffs! And that they don't allow you to purchase your own gear! Where i work we have buy all of our gear! But then again i am not a police officer! I am only a part time guard and don't ever have to use the cuffs that i have on me.. but i guess it is better to have them and not need them! Then need them and not have them... but sometimes i think maybe i should have just purchased some cheaper cuffs because i purchased the ASP set
Hell i wish my department at least issued us (the only two full timers) more than just a badge.
Another use for a USB flash drive: if you're at a crime scene, you're looking at some store CCTV and you known that the guy on morning shift at the store won't give a crap about preserving the footage so it will probably be over-written before a detective can get to it, it's useful to download the footage to a flash drive just in case. Not personally a fan of full size backup lights but then I've never found a compact size backup light that I'm totally happy with. Closest I got was a surefire backup which is a great light but the output is poor compared to most modern lights.
Good in theory until it's subpoenaed and someone has stuff that shouldn't be on it. Never use personal stuff for evidence or or notes other than paper
@@bigbluemsp Yes, that is unfortunately the down side. Best to keep a separate USB stick for footage for that reason. Should add that I was lucky enough to have my department issue me with a USB stick for this purpose.
Personal and professional opinion ; Put the back up light somewhere else and slap that 3rd mag back up front sir. Doing what we do you can never have too many rounds to throw downrange should we need it.
For your radio antenna, run it through the lapel mic wiring. It’ll cant your radio a little but it keeps the antenna out of the way
Nice one, but honestly I prefer the first one you've made. Always you present good stuff🤜🤛
I have the same radio at my agency. I got tired of the large antenna getting in the way while on my vest. There are aftermarket shorty antennas that work with these radios very well. I haven't had any issues with it since I swapped them 6 months ago.
I have the Motorola shorty antenna for the purpose of having it on my carrier. Also no issues
@Wes2951 if you're 800mhz great but he's uhf and those stubbys are useless
@@bigbluemsp as another non radio guy, I will defer to what you said lol. Thanks
For your radio antenna maybe look into getting a non rigid antenna and running it in a grid fashion inside the back of your vest. This way there is no antenna in your way and you will most likely have a little bit better reception due to having a longer antenna that has more surface area. They sell antenna relocation kits on line.
You just earned a sub
First thing: What holster are you carrying your PDP in?!?!
I really admire your armor layering setup! Your idea of putting the 10x12 FRAS up in front of some issued IIA armor inside a uniform carrier is something I want to try out myself now. Regarding the spare light vs. 3rd mag question… I would carry whichever one is the lightest weight because ounces become pounds very easily. My opinion is I think a much smaller light such as a mini flashlight or pen task sized light would suffice as a backup light, but that’s just me. I use a cheap, adjustable beam aluminum Coast light with a hat clip on it and a rechargeable AA battery for a secondary light because it goes right into my pants pocket easily, weighs nothing, and I can clip it to my hat bill for hands free use. Primary light is a good ole Streamlight Stinger DS HL and I take the longer Ultrastinger with me tucked in the passenger seat. Streamlight TLR-1 HL on my G19 Gen 3 with a few doodads as a duty carry gun in a Safariland 7TS level I duty retention holster. I want to go back to a 6000 Series level II Safariland holster after trying the level I 7TS from them… isn’t secure enough by my standards. If money wasn’t a precious thing, I would go buy an Alien Gear Rapid Force level III holster.
I wanted to know the same thing. I have a pdp and I’m looking for a good duty holster. I’m pretty sure it’s a dara holster
it is@@tizdizzley
@@tizdizzleyI know U.S duty gear website has holsters for the walther pdp for the 4.5 and 5inch I seen
@@tizdizzleyyou sure it’s a Dara? I just contacted their customer service and they said they can’t fit the Steiner optic in their holster because the hood is too low
@@caselawcop7229 no just a guess
Cool setup! Would be interesting to know what the total weight of your gear is.
Also, I hope your agency eventually moves on to a new Taser model!
From what we’ve seen in the video probably around 30 or 35 pounds.
Definitely try out the n-ear 360 flexo earpiece. It’s GLORIOUS and the wire is Kevlar. The only issue I’ve ever had with one is while scanning on my radio, asshole firefighters who talk on the radio with the mic down their throat blew out the earpieces speaker. I have since removed the fire channel from scan on my portable and have had no more issues :) The first night I wore it I had to keep checking it was still in my ear because I thought it had fallen out. It was still there
Coppers that wear ear pieces lmao😂
I second this. They’re expensive, but maybe the best piece of gear I’ve purchased. They’re magical.
we run the WatchGuard and I think we are going Getac when we upgrade. The laser light is sweet kinda want to mount one on my response rifle. How do you like the mps I've been looking at them but opted for the newer RMR HD
if your antenna is removable i would recomend a flex antenna and running it through one of the shoulder straps on your carrier if your department allows it. pro is no eye pokes con is that its a pain to charge it
For your radio I think Motorola makes a bluetooth speaker mic that you can plug into the radio that would solve the fraying, worn out wire issue you have. And would be one less thing to snag or get grabbed at work.
@freefieldtraining do you have any guidance on sizing? Go with the website recommendation/pant size? Thanks!
The stubby antennas from Amazon are a life saver. I have my radio on my carrier, and the big antenna would poke my nose.
Have you heard of the Bluetooth mics for the Motorola radios? There’s a little more to it but from what I’ve seen they work really well
Nice Steiner!!
That Guardian Angel is so cool
Where do you buy the proper handcuffs from? I am from South Africa and working in the Private Security Industry, we only get the crappy handcuffs of which the keys break after every second or third use
Unless you are in an extreme rural area, they make way smaller antennas for your radio (we use same radio). I work in a city of 300,000 in a pretty large surrounding county with a sizable sheriff’s dept. The SO uses the same channels as us because we will often mutual aid with them and they are our coroners. I always give them crap because of their huge ass antennas which are I. Some cases poking them in the neck. You can get pretty remote in the county and still have just fine connection with a little guy In my experience. I’ve had to go into the county about as remote as you can get. At the very least, pick one up as they are pretty cheap, and test it out.
I wear the radio on the vest and use the city sized antenna, only a couple inches tall. Also x26p? We just swapped to taser 7 I thought we were behind lol
The mic has a velcro square attached to the back by 4 small screws and the furry part was the same color of our shirt and sewed to our shirt. Very secure but on and off easy.
I mount my radio on my carrier, and use a stubby antenna. As long as Im not working rural i don't have any issues with dead zones, dunno if that helps any.
wassup bro ik you mentioned the fras in the front but you also wear in the back ?
good video i like it, now to the real question have u been in one of police activitys videos
Im against the TQ on the front of the holster. Its an awesome idea and a good way to save space, but there was an incident where an officer was in a fight and that TQ had been partially removed from its holder during that fight. While doing so, the TQ then blocked the retention flap on the holster from going all the way forward which prevented the officer from being able to draw his weapon. No thanks, ill choose life.
I just graduated from the police academy two weeks ago
I’m a Motorola dealer and I’d have your agency look into those mics. Motorola was sending new mics out for the ones that were fraying like that. Due to an issue in the plastic when they were made.
Might want to carry a Stop the Bleed kit.
Can you elaborate on the holster on the inside of the vest that’s an interesting spot for a backup
Any recommendations for a flashlight and basket weave holster that can fit together?
i would say get the extra mag as i heard a situation where a trooper used over 100 rounds including all his 3 pistol mags and 1 already in and 2 duty rifle mags and had 1 bullet left at the end.
so i would carry an extra mag encase it comes up where u have the same situation!
Talking about police equipment and gear back when you first started or before would be interesting. I would love to see what police duty belts looked like back when maglites and revolvers were carried.
Though not directed towards me figured I would chime in. When I first started though it was after they stopped using revolvers the only duty belts authorized in most depts in my area were real leather, though if i remember correctly Uncle Mike's did have a nylon belt system but unless you worked in a special unit and even than I knew bike patrol guys that used leather for so long they weren't comfortable switching. I forget brands but one of the best I used had padding on the inside which made my back and legs happier. Also alot of depts mandated basket weave pattern and assume even though a lot have changed or allow other belts they still require that pattern. Also worth noting another big difference between now and than was besides SRT/SWAT bullet resistant vests were worn under uniform shirts vs many use outer carriers now which can still be warm but are alot cooler than the internal ones.
Another thing I will note of things that really doesn't happen anymore my dad started in a small town late 70's he went to a selectman's meeting he was voted in given his badges, the next day(day 1) he was issued his 5 shot 38 with 2 spare speed loaders full leather belt, uniform pants, few polos as they were out of uniform shirts no body armor, also issued 2 wooden batons on riot sized and a smaller one usually called a billy club & on day 3 he started with an fto till academy class opened, thought process was get most of it out of way so when you finish academy you do min time then on your own. After 4yrs be transferred to a bigger city and he was mainly same stuff but also issued/given a blackjack which fit perfectly in the small pockets on the pants almost like it was meant to be there.
Do you have a recommendation on a small admin light, something even that lays relatively flat?
I gotta say, I wore a duty belt for a long time. And I wish there was a better option. Anyone who uses these should be very careful and look at either using suspension systems or if your Department allows, use a vest instead. We have nerves and blood vessels that run down the anterior part of the hip bone that the heavy duty belts compress and overtime can lead to damage to both the nerves and blood vessels. But the nerves damage is what is most painful. I personally have a constant burning sensation on my thigh that does not go away EVER! Its numb on the outside of my skin and blow torch burning on the inside. All from wearing a very heavy belt. Keep it as light as possible if you can. The wider the belt the better. But it still applies pressure where you don’t want it. Stay safe!
Getting the redundant or heavier items off the belt and onto the vest helps. Moving mags, lights, and medical onto my vest was a huge help.
I have the S&W black handcuffs on my kit. Looks heaps cleaner on the black gear.
I have a size 32 waistline. Could you tell me what size of safelife belt I should buy?. Some sizing charts say I should buy small and others say medium.
I'm a ham radio operator is that antinna a sma on the radio you can get an after market antinna.
As for the issue with your radio antenna depending on band and where you work I would use caution swaping them, though I would suggest that you actually reach out to Milspec MoJo he is not only a fellow creator but also a LEO in PNW (think Washington State) he actually has a duty gear video with an attena relocation device which you could move your radio to your vest and route wiring that would be out of the way. But being a creator as well he is very savy in latest equipment and like yourself it know he has helped fellow Leo's
As for the other mag I personally have never been in a gun fight & thought crap I brought to much ammo and others I talk to that have Leo/Mil backgrounds most concerned running out. Also I can't remember if your dept issues your weapon or if it's something you provide but when I was a reserve we had to provide our own as long as it was a certain caliber which is good and bad. It's good because I can use what works for me but the issue is if you unfortunately get into a gun fight and your backup can't toss you a mag. So like me and a select few in the area were using Sig 226/229 but a lot used glocks so because I worked in a rural area I usually carried at minimum 3 extra mags because at times my backup wasn't close and I rather have more than I need it's like tht saying one is none or like cuffs I always had flex cuffs somewhere close or even like carrying a TQ most carry 2 if not more. Though I think you work near Chi-Raq I personally would keep the high powered light within reach in the car as they work well for vehicles with dark tint or a specialty item though I do believe in having 2 flashlights or if you have a take home car having a piggy back charger with a spare battery
Stay safe
How do you like the guardian angel? I wanted to get one I do Armed Security
Hey FFT, did you look into cloud defense lights? A lot of folks swear by them for duty use.
We wear all the same stuff at the post office 😊
I knew I remembered that gun brand James Bond used a Walther ppk, pp, p5 and p99
I noticed the duty belt is 2". Most pouches are 2-1/4". Do they slide around due to the 1/4" difference? Lastly, what holster brand is that?
How much of a pain is it to get to your back up behind the vest?
omg your back
Change the antenna. I got the little antenna from Amazon 5 years ago and have never experienced any difference even in very remote places.
Ps. Thanks for all the videos and reviews. Stay safe man!
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What holster are you using it? Looks kinda like a lvl2 Dara Holster
Hate the buckle. The original chrome that was lined up with the Gig line.
Do you experience any pain in hips with this belt? NYPD recently updated our patrol guide and they have banned nylon belts. So I’m looking for a leather one, but there aren’t much reviews for their leather belts.
Tommy have you ever done a video on wireless mics, for radios and phones , if not would like to see it in a future video..
Nice cuff case I have seen that case here and there on you tube! Safe life makes a basket weave belt ill be dam. I bought a new safariland Sam Brown 94.buckles belt. The dummies gave me the buckle belt buy mistake. Now i have to drive all the way outbto buttler to get my 94 belt. Amazon fuckes up to. They sent me all olive green high speed gear toe double mag/cuff pouches by mistake! I kept them. This was for my SWAT TEAM belt. That is wilder taticial belt with the Cobra buckle. I live in Wisconsin who do you go through for your equipment? I thought about Cop Quest or Ted Blocker.
I’d keep the light if it’s comfortable. You already have 3 mags (if you count the one in the gun) and if you need the extra mag you’ll likely already have other officers with you (I’d think, not a police officer yet)
Very interesting to see even from a non policeman in Sweden.
How much does this particular setup weights?
(Pounds "lbs" and Kilogram "kg")
I am a security officer and where did you get that blue security patch in the background all I can find is black and white and I'm looking for a blue one like that for my bike Patrol jacket
Being a fan of first person shooter games I know it’s important to have plenty of Ammo and during pvp I know about using gun safety in game to not point it ingame until I am ready to shoot hence I would be ready when the game begins I utilize gun safety when playing Goldeneye on the Nintendo 64 and Wii
I'm surprised you don't use the MicLoop instead of hair ties for your microphone. Any reason why?
Can you do a video on the hiring process now of 2024
3rd mag is a no brainer. You have a primary flashlight, a flashlight on your phone, a flashlight on your guardian angel and a weaponlight. Keep a spare in the squad and keep a 3rd mag on your rig
What is the model of the first asp handcuffs case?
Is this standard for most counties states and other cities?
3rd mag definitely
Apparently, it is “January” in Chicago Land currently. Impressive, as It is only October everywhere else.
How tight do you need to cinch your belts to keep all of the weight of the duty belt from pulling your pants down?