[P4AU 2.5] Score Attack Margaret is even scarier than Liz...

Boss mode Margaret is worse than her sister. H E L P
BS list from what I've seen:
- Just like Liz, she has way more health, has 3 air actions(she can air dash twice), and is super fast
- She can cancel any move into any other on hit or block, even supers, so she can spam stuff like the spear throw(236C/D/CD)or the slide(214A/B/AB)
- 5B/j.B wall bounces
- Her sweep is unblockable
- j.D/j.2D both fire 2 volleys of fire/ice balls, and each volley shoots 3 at a time
- 214A can cross through you
- Insta Kill is also unblockable
and of course the absolute BEST one, her DP(the suplex):
- ALWAYS deals 6980 damage
- she can combo into it
- cannot be throw escaped
- IT VACUUMS YOU IN
I haven't seen her do her healing super yet, but it probably full heals her
Edit: Healing super do be full healing
I would argue she's more of a pain than Liz.

[@katsucurry5777]

Changes in the description^

[@idiotnumbnuts8486]

0:52 She actually just took you to the heavens.

[@katsucurry5777]

"top floor please"

[@thestealer63214]

Thing to add to the description: Healing super does indeed full heal

[@katsucurry5777]

Dammit ...*pain*

[@thestealer63214]

@@katsucurry5777 don't worry it was like that in 1.1 too

[@katsucurry5777]

@@thestealer63214 yeah the only characters boss mode I didn't know was Adachi, Marie, and Margaret, so thanks

[@thestealer63214]

@@katsucurry5777 Adachi gets big meter gain like Naoto, and Heat Riser's buffs are better (I don't know the specifics)
Marie's weather buffs are better and 214C inflicts mute, panic, and rage, while 214A inflicts fear. Also, her 214214 special (Shining Arrows) now hits 12-15 times.
These are all for 1.1, so I don't know if they were changed in 2.0.

[@katsucurry5777]

@@thestealer63214 For Adachi I know ghastly wail basically IK’s you, and he has permanent mandala
For Marie I know her card throw super IK’s and 5AA is an overhead

[@Demonseth999]

The fact this got added to SA is ACTUALLY a crime, really the fact she has a boss mode at all is a crime because she's more or less already a boss character. Some "fun" extra notes are fact her 5A series is FULLSCREEN and basically invalidates the existence of 75% of the cast. Hassou Tobi is ALSO unblockable and does like 12K if she hits you raw with it (death). Her suplex also ignores blockstun rules of this game so she can frame trap your sorry ass into it. She also actually has MORE health than Elizabeth (25,000 to her younger sister's 20,000). The ONLY thing Elizabeth has over her is the fact that she's immune to status effects and Margaret isn't (surprisingly) so it's possible to knee cap her with those. In short this boss is a f'ing war crime and absolutely the worst thing arc sys has ever made T_T. I feel all your pain and more because this character has made me suffer since 1.0

[@katsucurry5777]

Oh yeah totally agree. I almost shat myself when I saw that her suplex VACUUMS AND GOES THROUGH BLOCKSTUN AND IS UNTECHABLE. I spent like a whole 5-ish hours total and still couldnt beat her. this character is once again, the most painful thing I've ever experienced

[@Demonseth999]

@@katsucurry5777 I've only fought one thing worse in a different game. Back in 1.1 she's actually very vulnerable to being command grab spammed for some reason (in particular in my case Adachi's D megidola done meaty). Not sure if regular throws will work or not in the same fashion. SEEMS like the AI in this version isn't as dumb or predictable anymore but I'm not positive @_@. 5 hours though christ man, I am so sorry. I hope you slaughter her ass eventually

[@ItsDanbo]

Margaret if her stats were the same in the main game

[@katsucurry5777]

Basically the same

[@milesstorzillo7650]

She makes Parace L'sia look like nothing.

[@katsucurry5777]

I'm not familiar with the character, is she crazy OP?

[@milesstorzillo7650]

@@katsucurry5777 Words alone are not enough to describe it, you need to see it to believe it. The series is Arcana Heart.

[@katsucurry5777]

@@milesstorzillo7650 Ok I just checked a video of her...YOU SURE MARGARET'S STRONGER???? That woman looks like war crime central

[@milesstorzillo7650]

@@katsucurry5777 I mean, I've played neither, but from what I've seen I'm convinced that Margaret's tougher. That's just me though. And, again, I've played neither, so I can't say for sure.

[@murder_krow951]

That doesn't seem very fun

[@katsucurry5777]

It’s not. It’s hell.

[@TwilightStar18]

i say Liz is kinda more scary than Margaret cuz Liz has a unblocked that can instantly kill u(mudo) unlike margaret u can actually know when she will do her instant kill so in that time u should know by now when ur going need to be careful and lets not forget that their boss mode THEIR HEAL ALWAYS ARE FULL HEALTH so liz can use awakening without any risk

[@katsucurry5777]

After testing Marg and Liz a bit more, I found a few things:
- Apparently Liz's mudo doesn't kill, or there's some kind of special condition to make it kill(not entirely sure, but it didn't kill one time)
- Marg's Instakill hits full screen and is unblockable(so if you see the start up, you die. period.)
- Marg can cancel any move into any other(like boss mode Narukami) so you get pressured into death
I made a vid for all of score attack if you wanna see the crazy stuff:
th-cam.com/video/EqK_JV3IyMY/w-d-xo.html (around 14:06)
(I still stand by Marg being worse lmao)

[@katsucurry5777]

also, i think Liz is easier because she can lower her own health through Mind Charge

[@TwilightStar18]

@@katsucurry5777 the liz video u made
shows that mudo made more than(not sure the exact numbers are) 30658 damage it just didn't kill u at first cuz thanatos grab wasn't done yet i could be wrong but just to be sure go rewatch the video ig

[@TwilightStar18]

and the condition ur talking about is Hama not mudo

[@katsucurry5777]

@@TwilightStar18 In my vid Hama did 60,000 and Mudo did 6500. Hama is the vertical light beam/Mudo is the Dark horizontal beam. Are you talking about Ghastly Wail? cuz Hama and Mudo dont have Thanatos grab you

[@andersonmolina4025]

It's imposible to win against her (i tried like three hours so i know what i'm saying)

[@katsucurry5777]

It definitely IS possible, but it's painful and sucks(it took like 30 hours total. Kill me)

[@jerry3115]

Bro just win wdym

[@katsucurry5777]

bruh