Hall Scott: The King Gas Truck in the USA

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  • A Hall Scott engine was built to a standard, not price and was so powerful that it would pass everything but a fuel station.
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    00:00 Intro
    00:50 Establishment of the company
    01:52 New challenges
    02:40 The last and important design by Hall
    04:16 The 1,091 CID truck engine
    05:38 Future engine updates
    06:06 Why so powerful?
    06:46 A gasoline 2,182 CID V12
    07:28 36-litre V12 Kenworth truck
    08:12 Demise of Hall Scott
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    “Success Story - Hall Scott Power” by theflinx
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    “Hall Scott Power part 1 of 4” by theflinx
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    “Hall Scott Power part 2 of 4” by theflinx
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    “Hall Scott Power Part 3 of 4” by theflinx
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    “Hall scott power part 4 of 4” by theflinx
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    “Early Large Hall-Scott Engine - Coolspring Power Museum” by SteamCrane
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    “M 26 PACIFIC ENGINE HALL-SCOTT 440.wmv” by Thierry26470
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    “Classic Cars - Duesenberg Its a Doozy” by King Rose Archives
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    “Hutch Fires up the Hall Scott” by Skipper Rudy
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    “1959 Oshkosh Fire Engine” by snertmt
    • 1959 Oshkosh Fire Engine
    “Hall Scott powered Oshkosh vintage snowplow” by American Truck Historical Society
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    “Fire shooting Hall-Scott Truck Engine” by 1953kwbullnose
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    “Hall Scott running in Kenworth” by kblackav8or
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    “M26 Dragon Wagon” by Martin Michalovič
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    “Pacific M26A1 Tank transporter” by Tanks & more
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    “Hall Scott V12 Defender First Run” by Justin McCarthy
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    “Hall-Scott Pancake Engine #2 (better audio)” by William Nelson
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    “Hall Scott V 12 Running” by jgarbarino45
    • Hall Scott V 12 Running
    “Hall Scott V12 Engine at Mystic Seaport 3” by jgarbarino45
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    “1951 Kenworth Fire Truck. Model 751 1 of 4 ever built” by American Truck Historical Society
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  • @seabulls69
    @seabulls69 ปีที่แล้ว +301

    In 1966, when I was just 15, I remember riding a mid-engine powered Crown school bus that had this really cool sound. I asked the driver what kind of engine it had underneath. He told me it was a Hall-Scott 590. We were out dropping off students in a remote area and I asked him what it would do. He floored it and that bus accelerated like a car. He backed off at 65, not wanting to be too obvious, but we both smiled. I'm not sure which impressed me more... that wonderful sound, or the raw power. Great engines. Particularly at a time when gasoline was around 30 cents a gallon.

    • @jimtrook3597
      @jimtrook3597 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Saw one oñce in a bus. It was mounted on it's side under the bus. I had never heard of one previously. I think it was an inline six & the time was between 1964-73. Working in a GM C shop at the time.

    • @jeffstone7912
      @jeffstone7912 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      A lot of crown school buses had Detroit 6v53 diesels these were two stroke diesels and they were loud.

    • @parsnip7349
      @parsnip7349 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Sounds like you're describing the good old days ☺️

    • @De19thKingJulion
      @De19thKingJulion ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Diesel must have been pretty cheap back then too?

    • @h8troodoh
      @h8troodoh ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@De19thKingJulion was told it was about 2/3 the price of gas.. couldn't give it away..

  • @Mcbunaen
    @Mcbunaen 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    Finally, my curiosity about the Hall-Scott has been satisfied. Danny Rios, the guy who taught me to drive a Cummins 335 5x4 tractor in 1972, used to brag about his Hall-Scott, butane engined Autocar that would blow all the other trucks, and even Greyhound busses away up the Grapevine back in the fifties. He said that the stack put out a two foot blue flame that would light up the night when it was pulling hard. Thank you!

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My pleasure!

    • @dennisyoung4631
      @dennisyoung4631 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thanks. Dale told me about “A-Cars” with Hall-Scott engines - and your description matches what I recall.

  • @warmstrong5612
    @warmstrong5612 ปีที่แล้ว +321

    "No replacement for displacement" was practically their business motto.

    • @basiltaylor8910
      @basiltaylor8910 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Luke Hobbs Chief Engineer for Pratt&Whittney said exactly the same.

    • @toddamtmann3528
      @toddamtmann3528 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      There's some truth to that, with the exception of how much air you can force into the cylinder, on the compression stroke.

    • @basiltaylor8910
      @basiltaylor8910 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@toddamtmann3528 , with a decent intercooler , turbo or supercharger, four valve lean burn cylinder head, a beefed up crankshaft and connecting rod, 98 Octane Premium Petrol, quite a lot. Look at the latest lorry diesel engines from Scania ,Volvo, MAN ,and Mercedes Benz that comply with Euro 6 Emission Standards ,in order to do so, they have no alternative but use very high compression ratios.

    • @ThePaulv12
      @ThePaulv12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      No there is - it's called boost.
      Essentially you can make the same power at half the displacement.
      Why would you have a 30 liter engine when you can have a 15 liter engine that makes the same power and torque, is 1/3rd the size and uses about 1/3rd the fuel and about 200% lighter allowing greater payload?
      For example, a 15 liter Cummins with 35PSI boost makes 600hp and 2000ft/lbs torque at half the cubic capacity. That means off boost the engine is only 15 liters. A 30 liter engine is always a 30 liter engine so always consumes fuel like a 30 liter engine.

    • @basiltaylor8910
      @basiltaylor8910 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes I know about increasing an engines power with a gear or an exhaust driven blower ,look at Roller,s Merlin 26 litres in 60 -70 Series Form 1600to 1750 ponies, the 130-140 Series burning 115\145 grade petrol 2,030 ponies. Turbo Compounding is another means of increasing a engines power without increasing its fuel consumption and internal stress. All petrol and diesel engines including the one in your car ,use the energy of the burning fuel once, with turbo compounding that wasted energy is recovered via an exhaust driven turbine coupled to the crankshaft via gears and a fluid drive . You are using the energy in the burning fuel not one but twice or three times. It works!!!! How do you think Trans Polar airline travel was made feasible in the early 1950,s ?. Not long after World War Two engineers at Curtiss Wright of Dayton Ohio modified an R-3350 Duplex Cyclone Radial, the same engine that powered Tibbet,s Boeing B-29 Superfortress 'Enola Gay' to end World War Two. A standard model R-3350 of 2,500 ponies had a new rear section fitted with three exhaust driven turbines at '12 ,4,and 8' o clock . That same engine same fuel consumption on the test stand 3,250 ponies, for example an early model Pratt&Whittney R-4360 a much bigger heavier engine 3,000 ponies, for the turbo compounded R-3350 in 1947-48 a serious pony count. That year 1947 'Truculent Turtle' a US Navy Lockheed P2V Neptune Patrol Bomber circumnavigated the world with a few exercises in flight re-fuelling , an aviation feat all down to the Turbo Compounded R-3350 Duplex Cyclones exceptional fuel consumption. @@ThePaulv12

  • @nickthompson9697
    @nickthompson9697 ปีที่แล้ว +226

    I came for Visioracer, I stayed for the big engines. I had no idea how influential Hall& Scott were in the industry.

    • @apancher
      @apancher ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Phrasing...

    • @SW-qr8qe
      @SW-qr8qe ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@apancher BOOM!

    • @brianpedersen4714
      @brianpedersen4714 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Well after Hall & Scott, Daryl changed his focus and joined Oates. That failed after about twelve years when Hall stopped "going for that".

    • @torquetrain8963
      @torquetrain8963 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@brianpedersen4714 NICE!!!😂

    • @dancouger3677
      @dancouger3677 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      These became obsolete right before I started driving truck… if’n I was born 10 years earlier, I could have gotten my hands on one of those. Magnificent!

  • @dukie1616
    @dukie1616 ปีที่แล้ว +163

    This is the only channel on TH-cam that focuses solely on the history, specs and comparisons of so many different Internal combustion engines. Very impressive. Keep up the good👏

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Thank you, I appreciate that!

    • @caesar1295
      @caesar1295 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Just found your channel and subscribed, I absolutely loved this great job. Looking forward to many more videos.

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@caesar1295 Thank you very much!

    • @davidsignor7931
      @davidsignor7931 ปีที่แล้ว

      You got to give it to them that was alot of horsepower at that time. Now they are at 600 horses but I am sure the torque is much more and the weight is much less

  • @danhuttinger5040
    @danhuttinger5040 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    I am a retired truck mechanic and I have always been impressed with the early engineers and manufacturer's how smart they were to be able to figure all that stuff out they didn't have computers to tell them they had to have some Sharpe minds.

    • @h8troodoh
      @h8troodoh ปีที่แล้ว

      And likely why there's so much garbage being sold as high tech, everybody relying on computers to do their thinking for them.. the result is, garbage, short lived products..too bad.

    • @danhuttinger5040
      @danhuttinger5040 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@h8troodoh Thanks for the reply Mitch you hit the nail on the head those old trucks were sure easier to work on and I think they were much more reliable. I twisted wrenches for close to 55 years and the troubles started a little over 20 years ago and they steadily got worse with more electronics and stricter emissions standards.I am 74 years old I retired a little over a year ago and I sure don't miss the hassle of working on that new stuff.

    • @h8troodoh
      @h8troodoh ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @danhuttinger5040 the thing is,too many electronics, period. Take me back to my old 250 6 banger Chevy engine.. it was a happier time in mine and likely everyone's lives.. take care my friend, enjoy retirement..

    • @markbroad119
      @markbroad119 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Some of us feel they were better, more simple times. I dislike computers for cars

    • @mccrackenphillip
      @mccrackenphillip ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Because there were real men & women not children that age says there adults.
      Pvt non ASE gas engines so far for 12 years I learned what I know from actually doing some college family helped too.

  • @3RTracing
    @3RTracing ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Finally!! Thanks!! I have worked on a number of 400's and own a 400 in a 46 Kenworth. EVERY Hall Scott motor was bench tested, dynoe'd, balanced and rebalanced. That was one of the reasons they lasted so long. The dual plug feature was a requirement for any power plant used in fire suppression. Another significant placement of the Hall Scott engines was in oil field work, where they ran off of blow off gas and natural gas. At one point, Oshkosh had a manifold set up for their Hall Scott powered US Air Force tugs that had 2 Holley 4 barrell carburetors. Nice piece. I wish I had have kept my promise to you and provided you with more information and video content. My apologies.

    • @matthewshambler2644
      @matthewshambler2644 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That’s very true about balancing.. it completely changes an engine and certainly would help it last longer. As said in the video, it wasn’t about price- that’s the key difference I guess- you cannot have the best product at a discount price.

    • @rickwedman1375
      @rickwedman1375 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      9

  • @A50S2D
    @A50S2D ปีที่แล้ว +53

    In 1970 I worked on a ranch in South Central Idaho that used 2 or 3 Hall-Scott V12 engines for irrigation wells. They would idle all summer long bringing up water from 300 feet below. They had dual ignition systems and a the mechanic could change spark plugs while in operation. We got some of the best tasting water from one well and another had so much sand it wasn't drinkable.

    • @h8troodoh
      @h8troodoh ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Love to watch the wrench change those plugs while it's running...🤣🤣🤣

    • @antarcticmoongiant2691
      @antarcticmoongiant2691 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Probably had a compression release on it.

  • @olsonspeed
    @olsonspeed ปีที่แล้ว +62

    My fire department had a twelve cylinder Hall Scott powered aerial ladder truck. The sound produced by the engine was mechanical music, it was my favorite truck to drive.

    • @ATruckCampbell
      @ATruckCampbell ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What happened to it?

    • @olsonspeed
      @olsonspeed ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ATruckCampbell It was sold at auction. A 100ft Arial truck would be a very expensive hobby.

    • @richardalexander2305
      @richardalexander2305 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      What make was that aerial ?

    • @olsonspeed
      @olsonspeed ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@richardalexander2305 I believe it was a Seagrave.

  • @hoost3056
    @hoost3056 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    I actually suggested doing a Hall Scott video and appreciate the excellent job you did. I've been in trucking for a long time and have been into internal combustion since I was a kid. I agree about H-S not developing a diesel engine, truly a missed opportunity. All they really needed to do was convert the existing gasser over to a bowl in crown piston design and flatten the combustion chamber in the head. The engine was so overbuilt that it would more than handle the cylinder pressures.

    • @jamesgeorge4874
      @jamesgeorge4874 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Right on. The accessory drive was there already. An after cooler on that blower would have been a world class diesel powerplant.

    • @3RTracing
      @3RTracing ปีที่แล้ว +16

      no need to flatten the combustion chamber. Just build a bigger dome in the piston crown. Having the opposed valve head and hemispherical combustion chamber would have been very efficient. And given the two spark plug ports, one could have easily been used for an injector and the other a glow plug port. I have a 400 in a 46 Kenworth and have worked on a number of Hall Scott power plants

    • @V8Lenny
      @V8Lenny ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@3RTracing hemi is not efficient, even worse with diesel. And injector must be in center of cylinder.

    • @HeyItsJonny
      @HeyItsJonny ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@V8Lenny not as efficient, but would have worked with minimal re tool in the plant.
      From a production cost standpoint, hemi would work.
      From a engineering standpoint, flattening the parts would work best.
      One of you is Hall, the other is Scott lmao

    • @V8Lenny
      @V8Lenny ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@HeyItsJonny but today when LNG engines are becoming popular, gasoline engines would be better starting point, now they are all converted from diesel, not the most efficient.

  • @kimmer6
    @kimmer6 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    I was 3 years old when we moved to a mountainous area near Los Angeles. A wildfire started on a hot Summer day and fire trucks arrived, strung up hoses and began fighting the fire. A very big pumper truck parked by the corner of our street had its hood open with the engine running the pump system. That engine fascinated me, and my dad said it was a Hall Scott. I can still remember the sound it made. That was 67 years ago.

  • @kirstenspencer3630
    @kirstenspencer3630 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I worked for a school district in the mid seventys. Half of the 79 passenger school busses ( crown coach ) were powered by Hall Scott A 590 motors. Single overhead cams, the machine work was second to none. The first time I removed valve cover I was pleasantly surprised by the finish of the parts. Gorgeous comes to mind. Super reliable motors. Still miss them and the music only 590 cu inches can play. .....

  • @legiran9564
    @legiran9564 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    There's a modern analogue of the V12.
    The Cummings QST30. Up to 1,500 HP and 4,877 lbs-ft.
    Too bad nobody thought about dumping that on a Kenworth frame.

    • @bills6093
      @bills6093 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      "Cummins"

    • @andyvonyeast332
      @andyvonyeast332 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thank you Bill S.

    • @legiran9564
      @legiran9564 ปีที่แล้ว

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    • @V8_screw_electric_cars
      @V8_screw_electric_cars ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Nobody has enough testosterone anymore

    • @MitzvosGolem1
      @MitzvosGolem1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kta 1100 in Genset s Onan

  • @mikeaporter5231
    @mikeaporter5231 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My dad had a Hall Scott 12 in a Kenworth .i[I was his favorite truck and he rarely stopped talking about it ,Thanks for the video

  • @genewalter5022
    @genewalter5022 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Hall/Scott's are a great engine. I was able to work on a few of the V-12's with my father who was a master mechanic that cut his teeth on them from the 40's in the Navy and onward. They are fuel hungry monsters.

  • @fryreartechnology7611
    @fryreartechnology7611 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    They believed in no replacement for displacement... love it!🥰

  • @prosper.sguerrechaley6972
    @prosper.sguerrechaley6972 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It was great to hear somebody else talk about a Hall Scott engine. I only heard 1 other person talk of them my grandfather. He said only GMC came close to them.

  • @6h471
    @6h471 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    My dad spent a good deal of his time in WW2 Europe driving an M25 draggin wagon tank transporter. Hall Scott 440 engine, 1091 cu in. He said it had a single barrel updraft carb with a throat about the diameter of a 3 lb coffee can. 2 gallons per mile, maybe, top speed just under 30 mph.

    • @heartland96a
      @heartland96a ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A rare beast now a days , BUT I still want one ,or at the least to drive one

    • @charleshouck4309
      @charleshouck4309 ปีที่แล้ว

      The M25 Dragon Wagon tank transporter was made by Pacific Car, which now makes Peterbilt and Kenworth trucks. It supplemented the Diamond T 980 tank transporter. My father had a Diamond T farm truck in the 40's and early 50's.

  • @jonfranklin4583
    @jonfranklin4583 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    When I was a kid our local fire department had a Kenworth tanker truck with with a six cylinder Hall Scott in it, was a great sounding engine and they used it up until the late '70s. A friend of mine had a fairly large cabin cruiser built in the late 1920's that had a pair of Hall Scott engines for power, not sure but think they were the smaller versions and they were still powering that boat into the 1980s. I was around them several times when the owner was tinkering with them and they too were great running and sounding engines. Thanks for the video!

    • @eldrenbiddle9358
      @eldrenbiddle9358 ปีที่แล้ว

      They were probably 6 cylinder. Did they have highly polished valve covers?

  • @chrisretired5379
    @chrisretired5379 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Years ago, one of my dad’s friends stopped by our house, with an old Kenworth with a Hall Scott V-12. You could feel it coming towards the house. The family friend had said it was used for logging and could not be beat. Of course, huge fuel capacity tanks a plenty.

  • @edwardelliott5756
    @edwardelliott5756 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a boy (I’m 71 now) my dad showed me a city bus with a Hall-Scott 6 cylinder laying on its side under the floor. A massive power plant that dwarfed anything I’d seen before. Very powerful but being a gas engine was not great on gas mileage. My dad was looking for a base vehicle to turn into a home built motor home. He said it would make the bus go pretty fast but put us in the poor house from all the fuel it used. We got something else and put a Buick V8 in it.

  • @WyattWillis88
    @WyattWillis88 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Blown away by all the stories shared here in the comments! Man the VisioRacer followers make the comments as interesting as the videos and that's no small feat! Cheers to you all and hope you all are doing well 👍

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! I do my best

  • @tomgretiredelectrician1162
    @tomgretiredelectrician1162 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Very interesting ... My dad was a propane distributer back in the 1940s to 1960s and he got Crane Mills, a local logging company in Corning and Paskenta, CA to get their logging trucks to run Hall Scott s . They ran about 12 to 15 of them for years back when diesel power was very lacking. I don't know what size the engines were, but they also ran with hydro-tarders which was a method of using water for braking going down hill loaded. AND they were loaded, they ran 12 foot bunkers and who knows what weights they carried bringing a lot of virgin timber out of the coast range mountains. It was all on private roads, so no load weight restrictions. I was too young to know much about it all at the time, but my older brother (now decesed) did work for them for a while running a water truck over the logging roads on the night shift. I did forget to mention these logging trucks ran on propane.
    Hydro-tarders, now maybe that is a new subject for a new posting. In the logging trucks they carried a 500 gallon tank for the water to use to slow down the trucks, and they had to refill the tanks about half way doen the run to the mill. Like I said, weight was no a problem for these rigs.

    • @V8Lenny
      @V8Lenny ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is called watercooling. Hydrotarder is a hydraulic retarder, no need to fill tanks.

    • @tomgretiredelectrician1162
      @tomgretiredelectrician1162 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@V8Lenny The way it was explaned to me (over 50 years ago) is, there was an attachment around the drive line that the water was forced thru (vanes?) to slow down the speed of the truck. It created massive amounts of heat and much of the water evaporated which is why they needed to refill the tank halfway down the mountain. Huge tanks were mounted behind the cab for the water supply. There is a photo of one of these trucks on the Facebook pages for Crane Mills.
      I do not have permission to use the pic so will not try to provide it here. In the picture you can see how the truck cab is shifted to the left side of the vehicle and you can also see how the log bunkers are at least two feet wider than the wheels on the right side of the vehicle.
      I tried to find something about this method of waterbraking or hydrotarding but was unable to find anything
      on the web about it for anything that far back in time. Not too many logging companies had their own roads and thus not subject to load limits.

    • @V8Lenny
      @V8Lenny ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@tomgretiredelectrician1162 ok, but they could have used engine coolant and radiator. I have seen water cooled brakes that they just poured the water over drums, thats why big water tanks. Race trucks and some cars use pressurized system to actually spray water inside drums or discs.

  • @elstondias9172
    @elstondias9172 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Meanwhile Scania be like Hold my V8

  • @andyharman3022
    @andyharman3022 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Visio Racer is firing on all cylinders as the on-line historian of internal combustion engines. I've read of Hall-Scott in different references over the years, but never delved into them as VR has done here. I tend not to be interested in pre-WW2 truck engines because of their valve-in-block architecture, but Hall-Scott had overhead cams and hemispherical combustion chambers, putting them far ahead in design. Their heavy-duty gasoline engines carried the load for many years before the diesel was perfected. And given the EPA's apparent mission to kill the diesel engine, maybe the heavy-duty gasoline engine will come back.

    • @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
      @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus ปีที่แล้ว

      With the stated intention of the WEF and the climate-change cult to destroy private vehicle ownership and IC in particular, this might be a forlorn hope. I sincerely hope I’m wrong in this observation. But it’s happening everywhere.

    • @andyharman3022
      @andyharman3022 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThreenaddiesRexMegistus Cummins is already developing a gasoline engine based on their diesel.

    • @paulm749
      @paulm749 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Probably won't happen. The big Hall Scott engines made lots of power, but it came at the cost of high fuel consumption, so the economics just isn't there, and that's something the EPA can't dictate without sending us all back to the brutality of a medieval, subsistence lifestyle.
      So, Hall Scott engines were very innovative for their time, but that time has come and gone. All that aside, this was a great presentation.

  • @warrenjones744
    @warrenjones744 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It's nice to see Hall-Scott getting some attention here on You Tube. Along with the Buda's they are my favorite engines

  • @edsmachine93
    @edsmachine93 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Very good video.
    My Dad worked on Hall Scott's in the early 1960's on truck used in the logging industry.
    Had these engines.
    He always talk about the HP and torque of these engines and how the outperformed early diesel engines in trucks.
    Thanks for sharing.
    I just subscribed to your channel.
    Take care, EM.

  • @keithstudly6071
    @keithstudly6071 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I was glad to hear you mention the cam design work Hall did for Duesenberg as it was vital in the development of high speed engines and was copied by all the racing engine builders of the time. A Duesenberg with a Hall designed cam won the French Grand Prix in 1921.

  • @ericl2969
    @ericl2969 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I stumbled upon this by accident. I've heard of Hall-Scott engines and knew that they were used in big snowplow trucks by FWD, Oshkosh, and I think also Walter. However, somehow I always thought they were as primitive as nearly all other gasoline engines of that era. I had NO IDEA that they were so highly advanced, reliable and long-lasting. What an amazing example of top-notch design from long ago!!

  • @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus
    @ThreenaddiesRexMegistus ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love this channel! New gems every time. .
    Americans, eh? - “Elbert, we need to stay ahead of the competition. Make a new engine, tough and reliable as usual, it has to outlast the pyramids, and throw some cubic inches at it!”
    “You got it Bert, how big?”
    “Yes!”
    God bless them! We’ll probably never see the like again but this is really something. The optimism, know-how, quality, and sheer will pervaded everything made in this time. Just look at Pratt & Whitney for example. Even an M1 Garand!
    I drive a little 392 to capture the last of it. Makes me happy! 😁

  • @jamesdalton1346
    @jamesdalton1346 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My Dad talked about working on these engines in log trucks, i had seen one until now. Thank you keep up the good work.

  • @TarmenAmzarian
    @TarmenAmzarian ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I enjoy the way you go down the rabbit hole on our behalf. I had encountered the name Hall Scott a few times while looking in to weird old engineering, but I have never done any more research, and then you serve up a fabulous history leason. This is just perfect.

  • @ImForwardlook
    @ImForwardlook ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a Finn I do know that Hall-Scott engines are legendary! Thank You for the video!

  • @jaswmclark
    @jaswmclark ปีที่แล้ว +7

    When I was growing up in the Thousand Islands, many of the tour boats had Hall Scott Engines. Had they developed diesels they might still be in business. Most were replaced with Cummins, Caterpillar or GM-Detroit diesels in the 1960's. I should also mention that the Fairmile class motor launches used by Royal Navy used imported Hall-Scott Invaders.

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      James Clark some did but many used the Packard M2500 supercharged engines used in US Navy PT Boats !!! The Packards being supercharged and larger made between 1200 and 1500 HP, the Hall scotts were about 900 HP. The Packard M2500 was designed by Jesse Vincent mentioned in the video as the designer of the Liberty V12, Vincent headed the engine dept at Packard and had a hand in modifying for mass production the Merlin 1650 V12 that Packard made during the war for the Brits 27,137 of them and 18,000 for the USAAF in the P51 Mustang fighters !!

  • @loenhorst80
    @loenhorst80 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I own a 59 kenworth which came from the factory with a 250hp hall scott lpg. I still have a copy of the original title were its on. When i bought it, it was already changed with a cummins 855 engine from 61. Real nice you were able to get all this information.

  • @jayztools4038
    @jayztools4038 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Amazing info! Thanks for sharing. I have been a mechanic for over 20 years. This was my first time hearing of the brand.

  • @YCS-186
    @YCS-186 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hall Scott is the true embodiment of “no replacement for displacement”

    • @wilburfinnigan2142
      @wilburfinnigan2142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thers NO substitute for cubic inches displacement !!!

  • @slantfish65sd
    @slantfish65sd ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I really appreciate your work I've heard of Hall Scott engine's before but I haven't seen much detail about there engines I really appreciate this

  • @robwhite3241
    @robwhite3241 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mack also used them in their firetrucks, that's where I heard about them. Never knew they had this long of a history. Thanks!

  • @michaelharrison1093
    @michaelharrison1093 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thanks for the video. It is great to get the history of engines and vehicles for the companies that have faded into obscurity. I have heard about Hall Scott but didn't really know that much about them. Very interesting.

  • @wintonhudelson2252
    @wintonhudelson2252 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    An older friend and co-worker mentioned he had worked before WWII at Century Carburetion in LA. The produced the propane/butane carburetors that Hall Scott used. These were the biggest dry gas carburetors they made. They used linkage and a barrel valve for fuel control. Jack mentioned that a fellow would show up and buy a box load of their barrel valves. The individual's name was Stu Hillborn and he was using them on his fuel injection systems for race cars.

  • @upsidedowndog1256
    @upsidedowndog1256 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Nice history lesson! I don't do big trucks so I have never heard of them. As an engine nerd I look at all of them when possible. I have probably seen several but didn't know what I was looking at. You should make a video about how many manufacturers have used hemispherical combustion chambers. (Jaguar, HD Sportster iron head Shovel, etc...) to show the Chrysler Hemi addicts that Chrysler was not the 1st or only brand to make a Hemi.

    • @Thinginator
      @Thinginator ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My favorite non-Chrysler Hemi is the four-cylinder engine in the Citroen DS! Probably one of the slower Hemis out there, but still neat. Also those little Predator engines you can buy at Harbor Freight have Hemi heads, so there are many Hemi-powered go karts in the world. Plus, oddly enough, Chrysler themselves actually produced a version of the Ford flathead V8 with Hemi heads in South America after acquiring a brand that had been building cars with license-built flathead V8s, which were in need of an update.

    • @3RTracing
      @3RTracing ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Thinginator many hemi combustion chambered engines all over the world way back into the 20's, and the first and original hemi was built at the beginning of the 1,900's.

  • @johnelliott7375
    @johnelliott7375 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    We are floored with this one for the standard as always is💥blown to pieces and I think you went above and beyond just like Hall Scott company did with their quality control and materials for the engines themselves! Couldn't ask for anything else from your devotion and details on this one. Bravo we salute you for a historical masterpiece and finding the samples of the engine to show us all was a great feat in itself. For this in the time of historical change as they are calling it is a masterpiece. Good morning and I hope that you have a wonderful Sunday.

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you very much, John!

    • @johnelliott7375
      @johnelliott7375 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VisioRacer you are very welcome and I hope that you have a wonderful day. From the old farm lands in Western Pennsylvania North of Pittsburgh, PA. You and your family have a great day. Hopefully it is warmer where you are, 27 and chilly here.

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnelliott7375 Sadly, it is barely freezing out here. We have to travel to the mountains to see the white winter that I love very much.

  • @DannyWalker1949
    @DannyWalker1949 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I remember these Engines Very Well as my Dad had several of them. 1 thing I remember about these remarkable engines was Hoe They Would Backfire and Though Out About A 2 Foot Flame Up ansd Out of the Stack's (My Dad put on the second Stack) and the LOAD Backfire was so LOUD T00! Nothing compaires today like those engines. And with BIG Heavy Values it didn't seem to hurt it either...I remember Dad would Pass all the 0ther trucks unless it was another Hall-Scott powered truck this was in the 1050's when he started buying them. My brother still has Dad's favorite one of them in a barn/shop where Dad had the business back then. And it will Still G0 T00!

  • @Roddy_Zeh
    @Roddy_Zeh ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Learning more on every video! Never had heard about this company! Pretty cool! 👏🏻😁

  • @1oldskoolluvr
    @1oldskoolluvr ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Your videos NEVER cease to amaze me brother. The depth to which you strive to share as much knowledge that there is out there with us, is astounding to say the least! I remember hearing about these engines as a kid growing up in the 70's, but i can't recall if i saw one at any of the shows we frequented. Always a pleasure to watch another one of your videos. Thanks for sharing more of our forgotten internal combustion history!

  • @craigmclean8260
    @craigmclean8260 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great episode! The first Boeing aircraft (well, Boeing-Westervelt), the B-W1, was powered by a 125 HP Hall and Scott engine (two were built). Seattle Fire used to have a few Kenworths which were H-S powered; they had a distinct, deep rumbling exhaust note at a time (ca. 1970 and on) when SFD was replacing most of its engines and ladder trucks w/ Detroit Diesel-powered KWs. The old gassers (including some Mack B-Series trucks) were faster on the hills than the newer rigs...

  • @paulmartin8212
    @paulmartin8212 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    thanks for keeping this important history of technology alive.

  • @billrobertson1507
    @billrobertson1507 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow I'm speechless. I had no idea they had so much HP in the 40's.1000 is crazy.

  • @petermacdonald3061
    @petermacdonald3061 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for the informative and well documented video, I recall H/C in marine applications amazing to think these ran on gasoline or LPG, today we only think oh high displacement engines as diesel. Great work from you. Peter Mac Donald (Penang, Malaysia ).

  • @1ratdog1
    @1ratdog1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    No, I had never heard of Hall Scott before.....VERY interesting! Thank you.

  • @geofjones9
    @geofjones9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I never heard of these engines before. They sound awesome!

  • @greggpaul8053
    @greggpaul8053 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That was amazing! Never knew about the v12 hall Scott engine, Al gore and his cronies would never allow great machinery like this exist today

  • @MAGGOT_VOMIT
    @MAGGOT_VOMIT ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent report on this Visio!! I knew very little about this engine. Thanks!! 👍

  • @Rendraco79
    @Rendraco79 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Your research and videos are excellent, as usual.
    THANK YOU SR.

  • @dplant8961
    @dplant8961 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hi, Visioracer.
    Thank you for this video, much appreciated.
    I am pretty sure that Benjamin Holt of Holt manufacturing, one of the two companies which merged in 1925 to form Caterpillar, used a Hall Scott 4 cylinder engine in his 2-ton T35 tractor in the mid-1920s.
    Just my 0.02.
    You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

  • @cluricaun78
    @cluricaun78 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    What a cool and interesting episode! Thanks Sam :)

  • @jamesgeorge4874
    @jamesgeorge4874 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Outstanding. I remember thinking I was looking at a Cummins, waaaayyyy back in the day, by the exhaust, but then double taking everything else about it, was in a FWD plow truck, with a huge V plow for snow belt country roads, Great vid, consider a look in to FWD, they started in 1908, as an all wheel drive manufacturer in WI, USA.

  • @HLife719
    @HLife719 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I had previously not known about Hall Scott, but after watching your video, I’m in love! Only the best materials and sound engineering are exactly what I aspire to in builds. Mr. Hall and Mr. Scott are the kind of men I personally admire. Thanks for providing what is for me a new and proud chapter of U.S. motor accomplishment and history. 😊

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  ปีที่แล้ว

      I am happy to read such words, thanks!

  • @jessekalahar417
    @jessekalahar417 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    VisioRacer. you are literally my favorite engine spec channel on TH-cam. Everyone else covers the cars history more than the engine. I love your wide range of different combustion engines, especially the outboard two strokes🤜🏻🤜🏻🤜🏻

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I love engines, history not as much. But I like the basic history needed to explain the engine roots and origin. Then the engine it is what I love to talk about the most

    • @jessekalahar417
      @jessekalahar417 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@VisioRacer love from sunny California🙏🏻

  • @Hydrogenblonde
    @Hydrogenblonde ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Magnificent engines, magnificent video. Another great insight into unusual engines from the past.

  • @RambleOnIan
    @RambleOnIan ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah, you mentioned these recent videos are a big commitment and it shows. Love the direction of the chanel 👍

  • @ricepony33
    @ricepony33 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Truly one of the best TH-cam channels out there.

  • @wolftmfg
    @wolftmfg ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There was a guy who requested a video on hall and Scott I believe! This is nice to see 👍

    • @VisioRacer
      @VisioRacer  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes, quite often. Then I looked into the topic and had to make this video happen

  • @frankjacoby9460
    @frankjacoby9460 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I don’t believe I had ever seen these engines, but as a kid growing up on a farm in the mid 1950’s I recall listening to all kinds of farm engines and nothing ever sounded as sweet as those in the video. Man what a treat!!

  • @Duppavich
    @Duppavich ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love your videos mate, keep up the great content 👍👍

  • @jongmans38
    @jongmans38 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really good video, had not heard of Hall Scott/Big Scot engines.

  • @paulomiranda1717
    @paulomiranda1717 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Awesome, smooth running gas engines.I never knew about these .Great video

  • @apancher
    @apancher ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've only ever heard a Hall Scott run once. It was in a fire truck and had a bad muffler. It was incredibly loud!

  • @williamarnett9064
    @williamarnett9064 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video. I’m interested in you making a video on Continental straight sixes. The 427ohv is what my grandpa used on the farm for an irrigation pump. He barely cracked the butterfly on the carburetor to get the power he needed. These engines were in the Brockway heavy duty trucks. Please make a video.

  • @josedanielrodriguez1126
    @josedanielrodriguez1126 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for showing the history of engines

  • @NBZW
    @NBZW ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I’m not mistaken, a number of H-S were butane powered, drivers had nothing but praise for that engine, that would have been in 48-51. Old Donner Summit was the testing ground. What really impressed me about the H-S was the exhaust note, mufflers were not used then

  • @pinkyellowblue007
    @pinkyellowblue007 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Interesting video, I've had books on old American trucks but they didn't go into detail about the engines, Hall Scott was mentioned a lot in the books and I was always curious about these.

  • @invisibilianone6288
    @invisibilianone6288 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    If you heard a truck coming, 5 miles away, you KNEW it was a Hall Scott engine😁☕

  • @godsangryhands4499
    @godsangryhands4499 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You ALWAYS have the Best content! Thanks..

  • @GTA3Modder
    @GTA3Modder ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Awesome story, thanks so much for sharing with us! No, I had not heard about Hall-Scott before but they really built great and massive engines from what I learned here today. I approve!!! 🙌🏽🙌🏽
    Greetz from Germany

  • @guyforlogos
    @guyforlogos หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nice video, this is the first I’ve ever heard of Hall-Scott, what a great story!

  • @a3970010
    @a3970010 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I had never heard of Hall Scott prior to this video. Their approach to quality over cost is something that I miss in today's market. There are so many cheap engines and transmissions today that buying a new car is a total gamble. Although on the other side of things, enormous engines consume enormous amounts of fuel. Today we have small engines that make huge power compared to their displacement but are being pushed to thier limits to do so. I'd wager very few of today's engines could make the 1M mile mark without needing some refreshing. Can you imagine the power of one of these Hall Scott engines if the efficiency per cubic inch was as good as some of today's engines?

    • @monsieurcommissaire1628
      @monsieurcommissaire1628 ปีที่แล้ว

      I liked your last sentence- now that's a dizzying thought! A marriage of the high standards of materials and workmanship from days past and modern day advances in technology that increase efficiency is fascinating to speculate on.

  • @adriaanboogaard8571
    @adriaanboogaard8571 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nice video. I love the quote saying It can pass anything but a Fuel station. 😁

  • @billsmith5166
    @billsmith5166 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing. Thank you for the video!

  • @davidbarnsley8486
    @davidbarnsley8486 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Top video,I had never heard of this engine before 👍👍

  • @matthewjones8620
    @matthewjones8620 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for your time making this video, I have a 1948 kenworth hg825 (hg) for hall scott gasoline

  • @DoWorkNP
    @DoWorkNP ปีที่แล้ว +1

    One of the top 5 uploaders on TH-cam. Love your videos big dog keep it up.

  • @lmanders2
    @lmanders2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Enjoyed the history, thank you!

  • @timmungenast
    @timmungenast ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm glad to learn about these wonderful monsters! Thank you!

  • @billfunk1219
    @billfunk1219 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    You produce great and interesting videos- with lots of time and research! Have you done anything about Wisconsin engines? Their V4s were used in many applications but you rarely see them anymore. Just a thought!

    • @MitzvosGolem1
      @MitzvosGolem1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Have a bunch of VH4D and V65 Wisconsin s. Good motors.
      Starter flywheel ring gear s and head gaskets were the issue.

  • @anthonyxuereb792
    @anthonyxuereb792 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I first heard of Hall Scott due to my interest in fast patrol and torpedo boats, I think the British used them a lot .

  • @Commander-McBragg
    @Commander-McBragg ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent presentation.

  • @lindsaythomas2283
    @lindsaythomas2283 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I never heard of Hall Scott till this video. Thanks.

  • @yodasbff3395
    @yodasbff3395 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for the video, it was extremely interesting 👍.

  • @michaeld9731
    @michaeld9731 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Very interesting! Thanks for an interesting bit of history.

  • @gmarshall1026
    @gmarshall1026 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That's one great story cheers Glenn

  • @martinbuysabus932
    @martinbuysabus932 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have a friend with one. He pulled it out of an abandoned yarder that was a WW2 tank retriever originally. It has been sitting in his shop ready to go to work for over 30 years now.

  • @kobusdutoitbosman6240
    @kobusdutoitbosman6240 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    …brilliant review on ‘Hall Scott’ ~ well done. Keep it up !! 👊⁉️

  • @Tom-wl9sx
    @Tom-wl9sx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the sound from big engines 😀

  • @robertmoffett3486
    @robertmoffett3486 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first acquaintance with these was in about 1976. I found a bus frame in a wood off a highway ramp on Staten Island. I knew it was an ACF, with a (to me, then), unusual powertrain layout. I knew little about them, until this channel, and similar appeared. Back then, I only knew of Hall Scott as an early aircraft engine builder

  • @Nobluffbuff
    @Nobluffbuff ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Very interesting engine company...never heard of it, nor the history. 👍

  • @eldrenbiddle9358
    @eldrenbiddle9358 ปีที่แล้ว

    In the 50s I traveled from GA to Cleveland, OH on Greyhound. The bus I think was a Crown (?) and I had previously traveled on a GM 6-71 powered bus. When I asked what engine the bus had, the driver answered Hall-Scott. He also said that it was faster and a better hill climber than the 6-71 powered.
    In the summer we were live aboards at Lake Side Yacht Club in Cleveland and our adjacent
    boat neighbor had a beautiful 45 foot high speed yacht that was rumored to have been a rum-runner. One day the owner had the engine hatches open and the dual engines (six cylinder) were a work of art. The valve covers seemed to be cast cast aluminum finished to a high polish almost chrome like. And they sounded great, no mufflers. As a side note, there was an Armada of night time boat traffic between Cleveland and Canada during Prohibition.

  • @ldgratrod
    @ldgratrod ปีที่แล้ว

    So damn awesome!! Love every bit of it!!

  • @timmcquerry6068
    @timmcquerry6068 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have heard mention of Hall-Scott, but had no idea of the history or the number of different configurations they manufactured. Thanks for this.