A gym pal of mine once said, when they were closing the gym for repairs for a few days: "Can we take the power rack to the parking lot? We don't need much more than that to train!"
They did not have estrogens everywhere in meats, pesticides and food additives. Cleaner air, more cardio: playing ball games for fun (not DOTA). Most worked physical jobs and had work capacity! Think of old school construction workers! Think of their forearms and grips strenght! Now when i shake hands with a young fellow, i'm afraid not to break his fingers, that soft they' are. Also, at the gym, people do a lot of easy exercises. Fluff n pump. And as a final note, in these days, the gym is a fad. Back in the day, robust people were selected based on genetics to play a sport: olimpic weight lifting, fotball, wrestling, rowing. Lifting weights was part of their training plan. Some grew fond of lifting, so they stuck to it. The elite ones made it to the magazines and now we have pictures of them. People today hate on them and keep accusing them of using test and dbol. But guess what? dbol doesn't make you a 600 pound squatter over night. You still have to lift the weight to get to those numbers. What are you willing to lift? Aint no machine that will get you strong like that!
@@Topsealguy I dont think he was trying to be a badass, I genuinely think hes being brutally honest, and hes correct, the endocrine warfare happening on people today is horrendeous.This is a HUGE problem and i've been waiting to cover. EDC endocrine disrupting chemicals, INHIBIT THE NATURAL COMMUNICATION THROUGHOUT YOUR BODY VIA SYNTHESIZED HORMONES AND MIMIC THEM, SENDING FALSE MESSAGES. So many hormonal functions are INHIBITED GREATLY by modern living. like plastics- dont drink form plastic bottles, plastic kettles (yes there's such a thing)!!, soy in processed foods , processed foods in general with LOW NUTRIENTS, LEADS TO LOW TESTOSTERONE AND HOST OF OTHER PROBLEMS, SEDENTARY/LAZY LIFESTYLE NO MOVEMENT, EXERCISE, LACK OF COMPETITION, EMF electromagnetic fields, DECIMATE SPERM COUNT AND LOWER TESTOSTERONE-YOUR PHONE IN YOUR POCKET IS A HUGE PROBLEM!!!-MANY STUDIES SHOW THIS , food-can liners, detergents, toys, cosmetics, and pesticides.!!
Most of these fitness gyms today do not promote lifting heavy because of the liability. Now it is about being skinny and cut not lifting heavy. If a man wants to get stronger he has to lift heavy. If a man just want to look good lift lighter and high reps. If you want a little of both worlds do both.
How I see it ... Old school guys had to be serious in their pursuits in the weight room because it was generally less popular and viewed less positively. A head strong go against the grain mindset would have been required back in the day. Funnily enough it's become apparent that old school exercises and simplicity are far superior to your 6 day 30 exercise split that's been so common for the past 20-30 years. Proven training methods and mental fortitude got these guys far.
I lift weights in my basement. Nothing, but heavy free bar weights. I have joined gyms when I get bored. To be fair I have been at my strongest from lifting at home. I have looked my best when I combine doing heavy compound weight lifting exercises in my basement and riding my bicycle around.
Its true by yourself more dedicated focused what trying to achieve like jason saying in gym million diffrent machines so your maximizing than when you are its for a specific muscle plus men men back than just diffrent sure had higher testosterone also foods had less hormones so body produced more naturally 😆
Arnold move to Munich before America and preformed with German Powerlifters (and other europeans) in beer halls. He was based out of Germany for many years. It was also where he met Franco Columbu.. sooo
Arnold started training in Austria as a weightlifter in his early years .... He started at some competitions at the age of 16-18 ..... His best performances were: 110 kg in snatch - 120 kg in pushing - 135 kg in clean & jeark After that, he ran powerlifting for a while next to the bodybuilding competitions .... His best performance in powerlifting was a few years later: 240 kg bench press - 247.5 kg squat - 320 kg deadlift .... The last few years of his career he was only bodybuilding on the international stage
Old school bodybuilders took pride in being strong. The idea that you should look and be strong was what is was all about. Nothing of this aesthetics rush, skinny neck, swimmers build while leaving strength deal of today. Hard work, blue collar attitude, no metrosexual, soft and non callus hands mindset. Look at many of the leading movie men from before such as Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson and John Wayne.. Rugged dudes with a rugged mindset. It's not the equipment, Art Jones was hardcore with a hardcore mentality. It's the pussified mindset of today.
I agree 100% I started training in my backyard with a barbell and about 215lbs weight in total no bench no squat rack. I had to clean every lb for every exercise and after 3 months i went back to the gym and was stronger than I ever been
I have been doing 5 different lifts since 1999, messed about with everything before that. I work a manual job. cycle 60 miles a week and just do those 5 lifts. I feel good.
Yeah they did real training - higher volume and frequency - simple compound and dumbbel exercises - they did full range of motion - heavyweight low reps to moderate rep range Bodybuilders nowadays - bro split - time under tension aka half reps - 10 different cable,machine exercises for one muscle - 10+ reps per set I dont find it strange at all that old school bodybuilders are stronger
There was less confusing and conflicting nonsense based in generating profit and sales. I also have to say that the culture at the time praised health and strength because they often had to work for their well-being and health as access to medicines was a lot less prevalent than today. As we all know,a strong man,who got strong naturally,also has an armour plated immune system and injury resistance compared to a weak sickly man.
TMNXtras Add weighted chins and dips to that. Also add floor presses. Floor presses are extremely functional as that's what the older guys did. It has also tremendously helped mu clean and strict press go up
This is so true .I remember at my old gym they had no incline or decline benches so we'd put a dumbell bench over the side of a squat rack adjustable bar One day I said to my cousin while he was doing decline bench that way Do u realise we are constantly picking up 100kg to 140 off the floor and because we aren't thinking of it as an exercise we are just grabbing it and passing it like it's nothing My forearms and rear felts grew like weeds during that time and took us months to realise what was going on
In a modern gym, fitness instructors tell you to eat (85 kilo men) 5000 calories a day. Take 3 grams proteins per KG bodyweight a day, and do slow lightweight time under tension reps. As a result No mass gain (only bodyfat) and the hope you will buy more and more supplements.
jason, alot of people give you shit for no reason, you have said something smart but you havent pin pointed the reason why, and i have come to the realization that all machines today are meant for isolation for work, which can be great but that is all after steroids!!! so its mostly meant for bodybuilding/steroids instead of true raw core strenght for old school lifts where you just lifted the weight using your whole body if anything isolating your whole body and mechanism. so yes, mainstream people use isolation machines meant for steroids because they saw steroids buff people using those machines, which is not that effective for overall body strenght and mechanism of the lifts, i do love resistance cable for biceps, best way to peak biceps with reps of 30 or something with mid to heavy weights, you have to unlock to fucking rage in you, thats what testosterone is, rage. curl like you looking death in the eye like you are death.
From I have read Frank Zane did not lift heavy 'nor did conventional squats and some other old school compounds. Hence his lean and almost fragile-looking physique in the 70's. Not a big fan of that look. I agree with your comment though and I was being completely scarcastic.
@@peterl.1574 it's been reported though that Zane could backsquat 400lb for ten reps. I appreciate Artemus's intensity and intentions, but he believes this nonsense that squats/deadlifts thicken the midsection, so he only deadlifts 315lb. It's crazy about today's mentality, Bumstead was deadlifting 500lb Natty in high school (seen the video), but after all his gear use, can only rep 550lb. Meanwhile, Lee Priest casually mentioned in a video backsquatting 750lb! Damn Ronnie was so fucking right
I was a 65m discus thrower in late 70s. 105kg bodyweight. The gym just had heaps of free weights. No machines. No mirrors. Just basic stuff like bench, full squats, deadlifts, power clean etc. everyone was lean and hard. No steroids or supplements. Everyone had a job so training was after work. My PB's were bench 170kh, squats 260, deadlift 310. Still life a bit at 70 years of age
To sum it up, everything was compound movements. It was Olympic lifting or nothing. No machines, only free weights. No isolation movements. Then there were some weighted calisthenics sprinkled in. I'm not the buffest guy in the world, but I've used free weights my whole lifting life. I rarely ever use machines! The idea of never using machines was ingrained in me since a teenager when I played football. Our coaches would not allow us to use any machines! I still for some reason have that same mentality to this day.
The problem is this: Internet, magazines, movies etc all of it bombards everyone who take part and before long their minds are overloaded with a million different techniques, ideas, products, equipment on and on and on.. and the basics are lost. Just have a few solid compound exercises that you know like that one lover you had or have... ;)
This is how I train nowadays. I train at home now. I have a really good bench but in order to squat I have to clean a bb. I usually take a heavy db and front/goblet squat. I used to never think I could get in shape unless I was at a gym with tons of stuff. I realized I never really used anything but free weights anyway. I maybe used cables for tricep ext at the end of a workout. I instinctually gravitated toward the basics anyway. Felt right. Had friends say how come I can't get big like you. I would say stop it with the stupid workouts and one body part a day bs
This old guy blew my mind today. I was at the gym today and he was with his buddy. They were talking and his friend mentioned (So I hear you have a birthday coming up, big 60 right?). He says yep, getting on up there. He then racks up 405lbs and squats it like it's nothing! I've never been so impressed In my life!! He's my dad's age!!
I own a tree company so when I’m not lifting I’m throwing 200 pound logs around peoples yards. I took a year off from the gym and when I came back my ORM had gone up in all three lifts. There’s something to doing real life labor. There’s a strength you get that you can’t get with the weights.
What about the one arm barbell press? If you have ever seen those old school posters with the advertisment of how to use the barbell. The one I seen was like a 100 pound fixed bar. You would have to be strong as shit to press that one handed lol
Derek Green one of my favorite moves (before arthritis and age set in) was the one handed snatch I worked up to 100 lbs either hand at 180 body wt. 5ft11 never steroids just a lot of workout
Reason old school were physically stronger 1. Have knowledge and done 4 different things: •Hyperplasia •Myofibrillar hypertrophy •metaplasia •Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy 2. They don’t have smith or any fancy machine just free weights and they were seriously pursuits in competitions 3. Didn’t have a lot supplements like modern era…. So yeah old school athletes have to eat naturally healthy foods. 4. They know what to do and not to do in exercises. Now you know old school were legends. Updated*** Not just adults, even youngsters today are so weak. Embarrassingly and disaster!!
it would be fascinating to see weight lifters using their natural strength with no drugs or growth hormones well probably never find out how lifters of today would compare to old school lifters of the 50s and 60s
BTW I'm an auto mechanic. I'm lifting for practical purposes. I'm tired of throwing my back out pulling a Cummins inline six cylinder head out of an engine bay.
Google weightlifting clean. Clean means to pull the weight off the floor to get it up to your shoulders. I would not worry about this video if you are new to lifting. I have novice programs and tutorial videos for noobs. A LOT of my content is geared towards advanced lifters, strength athletes, personal trainers and coaches.
I wish I could do a good dead lift. I've watched videos on the technique, but I feel I am working all legs and no back. My legs get fatigued but my lower back does not. Guess I need someone to watch me do it in person and tell me what I'm doing wrong.
It makes the lift more difficult, but that is the point. I switched over to my Olympic lifting shoes recently which is just as difficult. It helps improve speed from the bottom by doing this.
Great video Jason. I'm going to try some barbell exercises off of the floor. You've gotten me off of straps and have had great success the last year and a half or so like this, now I'm going to incorporate some barbell exercises off of the floor. 👍👍
Power racks, squat racks, benches, etc. are all good and necessary. All the stupid machines now are only good for the odd bit of variety, you have an injury(ies), a physical limitation(s) or simply can not target a specific muscle best any other way (e.g. hamstring curls). You want to get big and strong stick to old school basics. Many Lifters (not all) now are lazy, weak, and afraid, and hence, use all the stupid machines. See it at my gym consistently. Oh well.
Alot of old School power guys had Farms. You lift tractor attachments Most are 300 lbs plus so you wither got strong it didn't get put on.. Then add in wrestling animals, doing chores. Fun or lazying around wasn't an option. Ship yards, builders, anyone who does manual labor all day long is going to be alot stronger then the office guy who only goes to the gym 3 times a week.
What could have been Jason... These chilled,informative videos are really good and watchable,all the bullshit you spewed has really limited the reach of your content and it really is a shame.
This is nonsense. The innovations in training equipment are a positive development. Only the rare genetic freaks in the old-school days were able to perform & reach these crazy feats of strength. Now, the various benches, racks and even certain machines allow us to stress our musculature without the burden of excess fatigue from having to position the weights out of awkward positions. This allows for higher recoverable training volumes for the muscles, relative to the systemic fatigue we accumulate. We already know that training volume above a certain intensity threshold is the key driver of strength & hypertrophy. If we are forced to limit our volume due to the taxing nature of these "old-school" lifts, the training adaptive response is compromised
abitoftheoldultraviolence what Data is the assumption that „old school lifters were that much stronger in general“ based on? Not debating that there are many fluff and pump weaklings crowding gyms, but also insanely strong individuals. I don’t buy the „the past was so much better and everybody was strong af“ stories unless convincing evidence is provided, until then it sounds more like a fairytale to me. But hey, if it gets people to train with heavy compounds, I don’t mind it since I totally agree with the philosophy in general ;)
We only hear about those who were the strongest & most impressive of that time. I'm not so sure that the average trainee now isn't bigger/stronger than the average trainee at that time. As far as machines go, there are good machines & lousy machines. There are also technique errors that need to be avoided when using machines, no different from free weights. Machines serve the specific purpose of accumulating volume with lower fatigue costs. Of course weightlifting teams will not utilize machines - they don't offer specificity to the olympic lifts.
If I HAD to powerclean and OHP what I can squat JUST so I could squat I would NEVER squat. I can't fucking OHP anything remotely close to my squat. I can't curl a plate. I can powerclean/OHP a plate easy, but I'll have chicken legs doing that. Sounds like nonsense to me. If all they had was plates and a bar, and no racks or benches, then I'm assuming there's no 5s, 10s, 25s, to increase slowly. Doesn't make sense that they could progressive overload, but couldn't build a ghetto rack.
First and most important rule of health is diet 80% exercise and rest 20% today people also do squat deadlift bench press and shoulder press and other compound movements I think real reason is quality of nutrients today even in crops we spread lots of ddt and pesticides and depends on supplement which makes today's guys weak In absence of natural nutrition and depend on manmade nutrients (supplements)
I'm sorry but this video makes no sense. According to Jason's logic doing a couple sets of power cleans everyday would make you the strongest man in the world. They also had all of the same basic equipment that we have today. They didn't have to do power cleans every time they wanted to do an exercise, the only example he mentioned was OHP which they could've done in a rack. Also, doing power cleans with a weight you use for OHP would be effortless. Real bodybuilders today train very similarly to the way they did it's only the average gym goer that isn't looking to build an impressive physique that takes advantage of all these new isolation machines where you just stick the pin in and do the exercise.
Sorry I really don't have time to rewatch my older videos to figure out what points we are arguing with. However thank you for watching the older stuff at least. Its appreciated.
I think he's suggesting that solely doing compound exercises leads to greater gains in strength, particularly if you have to clean the weights. This surely is more demanding than using a rack, particularly when you have a harder time bracing. I saw some of your videos, you may want to watch out for flared elbows as it can injure them and the shoulder joints.
And a lot of the claimed old time lifts were lies in my opinion..... I've got a book with an old pic of Gorner supposedly lifting two barbells overhead (one in each hand). One weighing allegedly around 120kg and the other weighing 70kg roughly......both the bars and the accompanying plates look so small that the only way I can accept they are as heavy as claimed is if they were made of gold. Some of the claimed weights lifted by some of those guys are ultra heavy, and yet when you compare them with what they were able to perform in the Olympics in properly judged contest it becomes obvious they were exaggerated.....their Olympic lifts were still incredibly impressive, and yet also believable. People claiming lifts historically that only drug assisted modern strongest men in the world can perform......are in my opinion mostly lying.
A gym pal of mine once said, when they were closing the gym for repairs for a few days:
"Can we take the power rack to the parking lot? We don't need much more than that to train!"
well, did ya get the rack?
These videos you make about old school training methods are by far my favorite.
They did not have estrogens everywhere in meats, pesticides and food additives. Cleaner air, more cardio: playing ball games for fun (not DOTA). Most worked physical jobs and had work capacity! Think of old school construction workers! Think of their forearms and grips strenght! Now when i shake hands with a young fellow, i'm afraid not to break his fingers, that soft they' are. Also, at the gym, people do a lot of easy exercises. Fluff n pump. And as a final note, in these days, the gym is a fad. Back in the day, robust people were selected based on genetics to play a sport: olimpic weight lifting, fotball, wrestling, rowing. Lifting weights was part of their training plan. Some grew fond of lifting, so they stuck to it. The elite ones made it to the magazines and now we have pictures of them. People today hate on them and keep accusing them of using test and dbol. But guess what? dbol doesn't make you a 600 pound squatter over night. You still have to lift the weight to get to those numbers. What are you willing to lift? Aint no machine that will get you strong like that!
100% true buddy
@@Topsealguy I dont think he was trying to be a badass, I genuinely think hes being brutally honest, and hes correct, the endocrine warfare happening on people today is horrendeous.This is a HUGE problem and i've been waiting to cover. EDC endocrine disrupting chemicals, INHIBIT THE NATURAL COMMUNICATION THROUGHOUT YOUR BODY VIA SYNTHESIZED HORMONES AND MIMIC THEM, SENDING FALSE MESSAGES. So many hormonal functions are INHIBITED GREATLY by modern living. like plastics- dont drink form plastic bottles, plastic kettles (yes there's such a thing)!!, soy in processed foods , processed foods in general with LOW NUTRIENTS, LEADS TO LOW TESTOSTERONE AND HOST OF OTHER PROBLEMS, SEDENTARY/LAZY LIFESTYLE NO MOVEMENT, EXERCISE, LACK OF COMPETITION, EMF electromagnetic fields, DECIMATE SPERM COUNT AND LOWER TESTOSTERONE-YOUR PHONE IN YOUR POCKET IS A HUGE PROBLEM!!!-MANY STUDIES SHOW THIS
, food-can liners, detergents, toys, cosmetics, and pesticides.!!
OKAY?!
Everyone wanna be a bodybuilder, but don't no one wanna lift any heavy ass weights .
Derek Green I do it tho
Derek Green I will do Milo of Croton's progressive overload training when I'm out of the hospital.
you can trigger hypertrophy without lifting real heavy
Most of these fitness gyms today do not promote lifting heavy because of the liability. Now it is about being skinny and cut not lifting heavy. If a man wants to get stronger he has to lift heavy. If a man just want to look good lift lighter and high reps. If you want a little of both worlds do both.
LIGHT WEIGHT BABY, HOOOOOO, AIN'T NUTHIN BUT A PEANUT
etc
How I see it ... Old school guys had to be serious in their pursuits in the weight room because it was generally less popular and viewed less positively. A head strong go against the grain mindset would have been required back in the day. Funnily enough it's become apparent that old school exercises and simplicity are far superior to your 6 day 30 exercise split that's been so common for the past 20-30 years. Proven training methods and mental fortitude got these guys far.
I lift weights in my basement. Nothing, but heavy free bar weights. I have joined gyms when I get bored. To be fair I have been at my strongest from lifting at home. I have looked my best when I combine doing heavy compound weight lifting exercises in my basement and riding my bicycle around.
Its true by yourself more dedicated focused what trying to achieve like jason saying in gym million diffrent machines so your maximizing than when you are its for a specific muscle plus men men back than just diffrent sure had higher testosterone also foods had less hormones so body produced more naturally 😆
Same, you can get strong asf just lifting at home as long as you track your progress & be safe.
sergio oliva did olympic lifting and arnold trained with german powerlifters which gave them both a good base
Not german... Austrian.
Arnold move to Munich before America and preformed with German Powerlifters (and other europeans) in beer halls. He was based out of Germany for many years. It was also where he met Franco Columbu.. sooo
Arnold started training in Austria as a weightlifter in his early years .... He started at some competitions at the age of 16-18 .....
His best performances were: 110 kg in snatch - 120 kg in pushing - 135 kg in clean & jeark
After that, he ran powerlifting for a while next to the bodybuilding competitions ....
His best performance in powerlifting was a few years later: 240 kg bench press - 247.5 kg squat - 320 kg deadlift .... The last few years of his career he was only bodybuilding on the international stage
Old school bodybuilders took pride in being strong. The idea that you should look and be strong was what is was all about. Nothing of this aesthetics rush, skinny neck, swimmers build while leaving strength deal of today. Hard work, blue collar attitude, no metrosexual, soft and non callus hands mindset. Look at many of the leading movie men from before such as Clint Eastwood, Charles Bronson and John Wayne.. Rugged dudes with a rugged mindset. It's not the equipment, Art Jones was hardcore with a hardcore mentality. It's the pussified mindset of today.
2 years later and this is even more true
Aged like wine
I agree 100% I started training in my backyard with a barbell and about 215lbs weight in total no bench no squat rack. I had to clean every lb for every exercise and after 3 months i went back to the gym and was stronger than I ever been
@miles he’s probably dead now
Before watching the video i’m guessing it’s because they kept to the basic big lifts.
Yup
I have been doing 5 different lifts since 1999, messed about with everything before that. I work a manual job. cycle 60 miles a week and just do those 5 lifts. I feel good.
@@Jafmanz can you name those lifts?
Yeah they did real training
- higher volume and frequency
- simple compound and dumbbel exercises
- they did full range of motion
- heavyweight low reps to moderate rep range
Bodybuilders nowadays
- bro split
- time under tension aka half reps
- 10 different cable,machine exercises for one muscle
- 10+ reps per set
I dont find it strange at all that old school bodybuilders are stronger
There was less confusing and conflicting nonsense based in generating profit and sales.
I also have to say that the culture at the time praised health and strength because they often had to work for their well-being and health as access to medicines was a lot less prevalent than today.
As we all know,a strong man,who got strong naturally,also has an armour plated immune system and injury resistance compared to a weak sickly man.
Imagine a program with squat, press (clean weight up), deadlift, and barbell rows... sheeesh
TMNXtras Add weighted chins and dips to that.
Also add floor presses. Floor presses are extremely functional as that's what the older guys did. It has also tremendously helped mu clean and strict press go up
I'm talking strict minimalism there, those 4 exercises with bare amounts of equipment will build a strong human being
god it's almost like Stronglifts 5x5 was a thing
@@ramaswamynarayanan2930 how do you setup your floor press
@@alexanderstevens145 I use the squat rack. Set the pins low. Lie down. Take it out and do the exercise just like a bench press
ASMRBlaha
But unironically
At 73 I like the rubber cables. I did lift tons and tons of heavy weights when I was younger.
This is so true .I remember at my old gym they had no incline or decline benches so we'd put a dumbell bench over the side of a squat rack adjustable bar
One day I said to my cousin while he was doing decline bench that way Do u realise we are constantly picking up 100kg to 140 off the floor and because we aren't thinking of it as an exercise we are just grabbing it and passing it like it's nothing
My forearms and rear felts grew like weeds during that time and took us months to realise what was going on
Don't forget epigenetics and morale. Old school guys and their parents often did heavy manual labour since childhood.
In a modern gym, fitness instructors tell you to eat (85 kilo men) 5000 calories a day. Take 3 grams proteins per KG bodyweight a day, and do slow lightweight time under tension reps. As a result No mass gain (only bodyfat) and the hope you will buy more and more supplements.
Exactly that, in the past i felt in that trap as well
Some fitness gyms criminalize heavy lifting.
Our modern life reduces natural testosterone hugely.
jason, alot of people give you shit for no reason, you have said something smart but you havent pin pointed the reason why, and i have come to the realization that all machines today are meant for isolation for work, which can be great but that is all after steroids!!! so its mostly meant for bodybuilding/steroids instead of true raw core strenght for old school lifts where you just lifted the weight using your whole body if anything isolating your whole body and mechanism. so yes, mainstream people use isolation machines meant for steroids because they saw steroids buff people using those machines, which is not that effective for overall body strenght and mechanism of the lifts, i do love resistance cable for biceps, best way to peak biceps with reps of 30 or something with mid to heavy weights, you have to unlock to fucking rage in you, thats what testosterone is, rage. curl like you looking death in the eye like you are death.
George Hackenschmidt. Look him up people.
He was a GOD!!!
+Magnus Emeritus Engen. Great strength, great athletic ability, great philosophical attitude and steroid free. Out of reach for 99 percent of people.
I've seen that thumbnail pic in Google searches. Edit: Franco was an actual multi-faceted ATHLETE. (boxer, powerlifter, strongman)
Ask Artemus Dolgin. He trains old school - minus: squats, deadlifts, overhead press, etc. Real old school training there.
From I have read Frank Zane did not lift heavy 'nor did conventional squats and some other old school compounds. Hence his lean and almost fragile-looking physique in the 70's. Not a big fan of that look. I agree with your comment though and I was being completely scarcastic.
@@peterl.1574 it's been reported though that Zane could backsquat 400lb for ten reps. I appreciate Artemus's intensity and intentions, but he believes this nonsense that squats/deadlifts thicken the midsection, so he only deadlifts 315lb. It's crazy about today's mentality, Bumstead was deadlifting 500lb Natty in high school (seen the video), but after all his gear use, can only rep 550lb. Meanwhile, Lee Priest casually mentioned in a video backsquatting 750lb! Damn Ronnie was so fucking right
I was a 65m discus thrower in late 70s. 105kg bodyweight. The gym just had heaps of free weights. No machines. No mirrors. Just basic stuff like bench, full squats, deadlifts, power clean etc. everyone was lean and hard. No steroids or supplements. Everyone had a job so training was after work. My PB's were bench 170kh, squats 260, deadlift 310. Still life a bit at 70 years of age
To sum it up, everything was compound movements. It was Olympic lifting or nothing. No machines, only free weights. No isolation movements. Then there were some weighted calisthenics sprinkled in. I'm not the buffest guy in the world, but I've used free weights my whole lifting life. I rarely ever use machines! The idea of never using machines was ingrained in me since a teenager when I played football. Our coaches would not allow us to use any machines! I still for some reason have that same mentality to this day.
The problem is this: Internet, magazines, movies etc all of it bombards everyone who take part and before long their minds are overloaded with a million different techniques, ideas, products, equipment on and on and on.. and the basics are lost. Just have a few solid compound exercises that you know like that one lover you had or have... ;)
Men were real men..high fat high meat diets..no women in the gym with all that booty distraction 🤪
caseydog3 the booty is hella distractin
This is how I train nowadays. I train at home now. I have a really good bench but in order to squat I have to clean a bb. I usually take a heavy db and front/goblet squat. I used to never think I could get in shape unless I was at a gym with tons of stuff. I realized I never really used anything but free weights anyway. I maybe used cables for tricep ext at the end of a workout. I instinctually gravitated toward the basics anyway. Felt right. Had friends say how come I can't get big like you. I would say stop it with the stupid workouts and one body part a day bs
Spot on
Because we used good form, basic lifts, and heavy weights.
My best physique was when I powerlifted with Westside Barbell techniques. I was strongest and looked great.
“Oh but I can lateral raise 25 for 12 so my bench is probably 405 now” 😂
This old guy blew my mind today. I was at the gym today and he was with his buddy. They were talking and his friend mentioned (So I hear you have a birthday coming up, big 60 right?). He says yep, getting on up there. He then racks up 405lbs and squats it like it's nothing! I've never been so impressed In my life!! He's my dad's age!!
Goals
What do you think about David Laid's 390 bench pr? Could you make a video about it?
Wtf I also think he is on gear just asked Jason if he would want to make a video about it clam down bro
They use testosteron from the beggining, qwin dude started to spread the knowledge to them :D
I own a tree company so when I’m not lifting I’m throwing 200 pound logs around peoples yards. I took a year off from the gym and when I came back my ORM had gone up in all three lifts. There’s something to doing real life labor. There’s a strength you get that you can’t get with the weights.
The old time weightlifters weren’t just physically strong but mentally.
Yes very underrated feature
What about the one arm barbell press? If you have ever seen those old school posters with the advertisment of how to use the barbell. The one I seen was like a 100 pound fixed bar. You would have to be strong as shit to press that one handed lol
Derek Green one of my favorite moves (before arthritis and age set in) was the one handed snatch I worked up to 100 lbs either hand at 180 body wt. 5ft11 never steroids just a lot of workout
Reason old school were physically stronger
1. Have knowledge and done 4 different things:
•Hyperplasia
•Myofibrillar hypertrophy
•metaplasia
•Sarcoplasmic hypertrophy
2. They don’t have smith or any fancy machine just free weights and they were seriously pursuits in competitions
3. Didn’t have a lot supplements like modern era…. So yeah old school athletes have to eat naturally healthy foods.
4. They know what to do and not to do in exercises.
Now you know old school were legends.
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Not just adults, even youngsters today are so weak. Embarrassingly and disaster!!
it would be fascinating to see weight lifters using their natural strength with no drugs or growth hormones well probably never find out how lifters of today would compare to old school lifters of the 50s and 60s
It would probably be very similar strength.
Here is a game
If he says:
*What do you think how strong can/could you be?* you drink
What do you mean by (clean the weight up)? I'm an ameture just now getting into this.
BTW I'm an auto mechanic. I'm lifting for practical purposes. I'm tired of throwing my back out pulling a Cummins inline six cylinder head out of an engine bay.
Google weightlifting clean. Clean means to pull the weight off the floor to get it up to your shoulders. I would not worry about this video if you are new to lifting. I have novice programs and tutorial videos for noobs. A LOT of my content is geared towards advanced lifters, strength athletes, personal trainers and coaches.
Steak and eggs and eggs and steak, that's what you should have for breakfast.. delicious
I wish I could do a good dead lift. I've watched videos on the technique, but I feel I am working all legs and no back. My legs get fatigued but my lower back does not. Guess I need someone to watch me do it in person and tell me what I'm doing wrong.
Great point!! So very true!!! Try free weights and eat clean. Keep it basic for 2 months and watch the gains come :)
YOU ARE EXCEPTIONALLY STRONG LIKE THE OLD SCHOOL LIFTERS AND BODYBUILDERS....ITS THE WAY THEY TRAINED AND ATE....
Isnt cleaning to front Squat awkward af?
Yes, yes it is.
Loved this video. Primarily bc I clean everyday lol
Food was real.
The only things that bodybuilder/athlete needs is barbell, elastic and somewhere where we can do pull-ups (and maybe dips if you like them).
real muscles = power
How do you deadlift with boots?
It makes the lift more difficult, but that is the point. I switched over to my Olympic lifting shoes recently which is just as difficult. It helps improve speed from the bottom by doing this.
Great video Jason. I'm going to try some barbell exercises off of the floor. You've gotten me off of straps and have had great success the last year and a half or so like this, now I'm going to incorporate some barbell exercises off of the floor. 👍👍
Power racks, squat racks, benches, etc. are all good and necessary. All the stupid machines now are only good for the odd bit of variety, you have an injury(ies), a physical limitation(s) or simply can not target a specific muscle best any other way (e.g. hamstring curls). You want to get big and strong stick to old school basics. Many Lifters (not all) now are lazy, weak, and afraid, and hence, use all the stupid machines. See it at my gym consistently. Oh well.
Yep that's one benefit of power clean .. good thing I'm good at it when someone is using the squat rack
I'm pretty sure steroids were popular since the time of Steve Reeves mister blaha
Enhanced lifters in those days used far less steroids than most natural bodybuilders do today though.
common misconception steroids don't really improve strength by a large amount
@@RiverFerret Yes, I suppose that's true. It just increases your fatigue limit and allows greater muscle attainment.
This was a very inspiring video .
Alot of old School power guys had Farms. You lift tractor attachments Most are 300 lbs plus so you wither got strong it didn't get put on.. Then add in wrestling animals, doing chores. Fun or lazying around wasn't an option. Ship yards, builders, anyone who does manual labor all day long is going to be alot stronger then the office guy who only goes to the gym 3 times a week.
In the beginning they just had stones and logs 😅.. Maybe a pig to eat
I hurt my shoulder
It's the other way around. Modern gyms allow weak men to get stronger. Old school gyms only allowed strong men to get stronger.
More testosterone is the answer to me anyway more manly
What could have been Jason...
These chilled,informative videos are really good and watchable,all the bullshit you spewed has really limited the reach of your content and it really is a shame.
My outreach is better than ever these days.
Wait was meat actually cheaper back then? Gym memberships were actually free? WTF happened?!
Profit maximisation
That's why products today don't last
This is nonsense. The innovations in training equipment are a positive development. Only the rare genetic freaks in the old-school days were able to perform & reach these crazy feats of strength. Now, the various benches, racks and even certain machines allow us to stress our musculature without the burden of excess fatigue from having to position the weights out of awkward positions. This allows for higher recoverable training volumes for the muscles, relative to the systemic fatigue we accumulate. We already know that training volume above a certain intensity threshold is the key driver of strength & hypertrophy. If we are forced to limit our volume due to the taxing nature of these "old-school" lifts, the training adaptive response is compromised
abitoftheoldultraviolence what Data is the assumption that „old school lifters were that much stronger in general“ based on? Not debating that there are many fluff and pump weaklings crowding gyms, but also insanely strong individuals. I don’t buy the „the past was so much better and everybody was strong af“ stories unless convincing evidence is provided, until then it sounds more like a fairytale to me. But hey, if it gets people to train with heavy compounds, I don’t mind it since I totally agree with the philosophy in general ;)
We only hear about those who were the strongest & most impressive of that time. I'm not so sure that the average trainee now isn't bigger/stronger than the average trainee at that time. As far as machines go, there are good machines & lousy machines. There are also technique errors that need to be avoided when using machines, no different from free weights. Machines serve the specific purpose of accumulating volume with lower fatigue costs. Of course weightlifting teams will not utilize machines - they don't offer specificity to the olympic lifts.
missed the point of the video my guy
If I HAD to powerclean and OHP what I can squat JUST so I could squat I would NEVER squat. I can't fucking OHP anything remotely close to my squat. I can't curl a plate. I can powerclean/OHP a plate easy, but I'll have chicken legs doing that. Sounds like nonsense to me. If all they had was plates and a bar, and no racks or benches, then I'm assuming there's no 5s, 10s, 25s, to increase slowly. Doesn't make sense that they could progressive overload, but couldn't build a ghetto rack.
haha so on point ;)
its easy
their food back then are way more fresher than we eat today
It not just adults, even kids included coaches are so weak in modern era as well
I'm pretty sure Brad Dingleberry won't survive back in day
#very
#informative
#coach
Also food yea everything is extra bad now
Especially the tap water, full of hormones
Everday Products as well lots of endocrine disrupters
Nice lifts & no belt... Sweet.
Johnathan Lauturner might be just me but isn't he squatting with his lower back too much when he goes up?
Couldnt agree with jason anymore right on the money!
Ads at 1:00 into the video.... really?
Very informative coach
rational video, nice
Just do the training with free weights
Good video, but when wearing headphones sounds like ASMR. Which is gross, please speak up and get back from mic. That lips smack is so unpleasant.
They ate less soy
First and most important rule of health is diet 80% exercise and rest 20%
today people also do squat deadlift bench press and shoulder press and other compound movements
I think real reason is quality of nutrients today even in crops we spread lots of ddt and pesticides and depends on supplement which makes today's guys weak
In absence of natural nutrition and depend on manmade nutrients (supplements)
Why are you wearing boots with shorts.....and why are you wearing boots in the gym.....genuinely curious.
I'm sorry but this video makes no sense. According to Jason's logic doing a couple sets of power cleans everyday would make you the strongest man in the world. They also had all of the same basic equipment that we have today. They didn't have to do power cleans every time they wanted to do an exercise, the only example he mentioned was OHP which they could've done in a rack. Also, doing power cleans with a weight you use for OHP would be effortless. Real bodybuilders today train very similarly to the way they did it's only the average gym goer that isn't looking to build an impressive physique that takes advantage of all these new isolation machines where you just stick the pin in and do the exercise.
Sorry I really don't have time to rewatch my older videos to figure out what points we are arguing with. However thank you for watching the older stuff at least. Its appreciated.
I think he's suggesting that solely doing compound exercises leads to greater gains in strength, particularly if you have to clean the weights. This surely is more demanding than using a rack, particularly when you have a harder time bracing. I saw some of your videos, you may want to watch out for flared elbows as it can injure them and the shoulder joints.
The only people that lifted weights years ago were very strong and powerful anyway.
Good video and i agree somewhat. But squats and deads are exceeding 1000 lbs and benches over 700- 800 lbs nowadays????
You know who is really strong .....
David laid
Guys today are stronger.
And a lot of the claimed old time lifts were lies in my opinion.....
I've got a book with an old pic of Gorner supposedly lifting two barbells overhead (one in each hand). One weighing allegedly around 120kg and the other weighing 70kg roughly......both the bars and the accompanying plates look so small that the only way I can accept they are as heavy as claimed is if they were made of gold.
Some of the claimed weights lifted by some of those guys are ultra heavy, and yet when you compare them with what they were able to perform in the Olympics in properly judged contest it becomes obvious they were exaggerated.....their Olympic lifts were still incredibly impressive, and yet also believable.
People claiming lifts historically that only drug assisted modern strongest men in the world can perform......are in my opinion mostly lying.
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Lots and lots of juice
this dudes form squatting is shit. Your lifting with your lower back at the end of the rep.
why do you whisper like a girl? just saying. speak forcefully
B.S.