Backed the Odin 2 max on August 22, and just got a mail that they sent it out today, so it should be here within the next week. 😍 I really like how the Odin 2 campaign is a huge victory for AYN. From the experience with the "old" Odins we already knew that these folks are capable of building the best emulation devices you could think of at the time, but now they proved that they can do so far quicker than announced.
I'm losing my mind I can't wait till I get mine, I keep watching odin 2 videos over and over. Its the steam deck all over again. This device is going to be so good that I think big players like One Plus and Samsung might make a device to cash in
@@retrotechdad definitely although i cant imagine more improvements since the chipser we have here is pretty much as good as it gets. Perhaps big players could offer lower procing or even oled, bigger storage perhaps? But performance wise, i think Ayn have ended their own production line since this does it all 😅
@@clausjahnel5379 true,. but even then, even if a wiiu emulator comes out or a PS3 emulator..i would have thought this device would be able to handle it, even if only at native resolution. After PS3 or Wiiu... PS4? PS5? ok that would need a monster of a handheld...but until something like that happens..probably 5 - 10 years away.
I’m glad I held off on the steam deck. I just want it for retro gaming only and this fits the bill perfectly with the power needed for a great experience and with a good price point.
Yes, they have definitely set the bar high with this one. They've done so much right, I'm honestly very surprised and at the same time really happy about it!
This was the best review of the Odin 2 so far. I'm sure it took a lot of time and effort so well done. My only critique would be to mention what the 3x, 4x etc translates to in output (eg. 1080p and so on) Really enjoy your videos, thank you for all the effort and getting the community excited about the best Android device ever made! Btw, I have a blue Odin 2 Pro, havent had much chance to play.....work etc, but the colour is really beautiful 😊
This is awesome. Literally selling my stuff to buy this ASAP! The only console I'll need for a while. Thanks for the review my dude! And the music track you picked to end the vid was perfect. Literally a happy ending song 👌🏻
Odin 2 is definitely the handheld of the year and this is the Odin 2 video of the year! Great video, loved the teardown and benchmarks. Only wish the RGB didn't look so terrible on the transparent colors. 😢
Awesome to see another TH-camr using a temperature gun. Just be careful when using a laser on a panel, as it can potentially damage the screen itself. Excellent review all-round!
Thanks so much for stopping by, Kei! 🙏 I always liked using the gun, it's fun to show the thermals and makes for a good visual representation. I'd love to upgrade that cheapo one at some point. 🤣
I ordered a black max version, i can't wait to get it !!!! It's the best handheld for now in my opinion ! I hope to see more videos on it and guide !!! Very nice review !
6:10 look at that beauty... glad I ordered white too... hope Mine gets dispatched before end of November to avoid xmas post delays.... I live in the UK 🇬🇧 so fingers crossed.
Just rushing to home and welcome my clear blue max while listening to your review, very good review with those performance figures. Thanks for your effort.
Ohhhhh, you definitely need to report back here and let me know how you like the clear blue in person. I personally backed the clear blue max as well, just missed the shipping cutoff as of today, sooo close! 🙏
@retrotechdad This is my 4th AYN product, no finger print as those black units is great, I prefer turn on only the side LEDs on the lowest intensity and select yellow light such that it will be greenish to match the charging LED green color.
Fantastic! Thanks Rob 😁. I like that they changed the joysticks but I do wish they put regular sized sticks in it like in the loki. It's not like the device is pocketable so it doesn't really need low profile Joysticks. Oh well..
Wow, someone with the ball units to take one of these apart. :) Great job! Six LEDs on each side...I wonder if they can be individually controlled. What a great opportunity for some neat RGB effects!
Nice review! Thanks for going into the UI and physical buttons. Have the Odin 1 and the switch-style analogue sticks became really loud with the spring missing and squeaking. Pulled the trigger on this one 🎉
What an epic review! I'll probably have to get an Odin 2 eventually, but it's weirdly not that exciting to me. At this point in the handheld wars, I'm finding that consoles that serve a niche purpose well are more appealing than that one device that can "do it all". The RGB30 has been so much fun and I'm intensely excited for the Anbernic RG ARC-D/RG ARC-S. It's basically the modern Sega Nomad I've always wanted, but never dreamed would actually happen.
I cried a little when you used a metal object to separate the shells instead of a guitar pick. But great review. The odin 2 fixes everything wrong with the first. Cant wait until yuzu develops more on android.
I initially used a guitar pick and needed something a bit more rigid to help get those tabs separated. No Odin 2s were harmed in the making of this video. 🙏😁 Same here, I've been tracking the progress of Yuzu on Android since the beginning!
That white is gorgeous, and the only color without bezels. But I would not trust me with white, especially the joysticks, got my lesson with my indigo retroid pocket 2+. So now I'm waiting for my black unit to be shipped 😊
Which country are you shipping to? I've never had to pay duty taxes on anything coming to the US. However, I know that's not the same for other countries.
Do you see a world where owning the Steam Deck and Odin 2 makes sense? I find I never take the Steam Deck out of the house due to its size. I've ordered the Odin 2 to cover that and emulation in a smaller device. I'm not sure if its excessive though. Not to mention the new Steam Deck OLED is now out there...
I have both steam deck and oin 2 and I honestly hate that both devices are so good on their own and overlap a lot of the same areas, I feel like one has to go. Probably Odin 2 has to go since Steam Deck is just so dang useful in more ways than Odin 2 is. I think If Odin 2 came at a smaller footprint, it would be ok, but it's just too big and thick to be a Steam Deck companion, IMO. Retroid Pocket 3+ would have been a better companion to SD
That was a great watch! They really did improve on pretty much everything from the Odin 1! This is a device that I badly want to own yet I'm going to wait to buy, purely because android software is not keeping up with the hardware on offer 😃
I'd so love to get a Anbernick, ( probably misspelled ) just hopefully it'll have Ranger X. Obviously I want a ton of games from the start, don't have a computer etc. But I remember that game being a Bday present, I was like 4 years old, from my Dad, already had me a Sega, or Sega Genesis, can't remember exact. But I absolutely love that game, to young to remember if I ever beat it, but seeing it be played on TH-cam gives me goose bumps lol. -Rest in Piece Dad-
Principles is an Android game that has ray tracing and is a great way to show the power of the SD 8 Gen 2. I wonder if the Odin 2 will be able to run Resident Evil Village once the Android port comes out.
It's definitely a cool showcase piece for Android. I really wish we had more examples of what these chipsets can really do. I didn't realize Village is coming to Android as well! 🤯👀
Thanks for the informative review! Have you noticed the screen is a bit dim? I have been playing with my Odin 2 now for a few days and have to keep the screen at 80 percent or higher brightness to make it look good and that is indoors. Not sure if that can be fixed in future firmware but I don't think its bright enough to play outside at all...
Battery life literally sounds too good to be true. You're lucky to get 5 hours emulating 6th gen games on other handhelds. Only potential issue I see is poor emulation accuracy, as this is Android and not PC.
Thank you for your great Review, but i need something to clarify about VRAM 4G Swap, it is safe to turn on? Because i saw a video on youtube about ram swap and in the video said it will shorten the life span your device. Is it true? And if i get the pro model, do i need to turn on ram swap like the base model of ayn odin 2? I need an explanation about this so i can decide which model should i get. Thank you.
Odin 2 is really a new standard for Android Handhelds. AYN really put Retroid and ANBERNIC in a bad position, when they'll have to use high-end chips in order to stay in competition. Both Retroid and ANBERNIC probably wanted to suck some money out of buyers with a minor incremental updates and using low-end Dimensity chips.
It’s funny, I don’t see this as competition for the retroid pocket 2S. I finally pulled the trigger on the 2s because they currently have the 4+128gb model on sale for $99. It plays up to some PS2 and some GameCube. For $99 you just can’t beat that. The Odin 2 on the other hand uses the same quality sticks, d-pad, and triggers, but with everything else being a massive upgrade that puts its gaming power on a different level. One that’s more than 4X the price. For me, I just want to get into some retro handheld emulation that includes N64, PS1, and DC and I need to do it on a zero dollar budget. It’s just where I am with Christmas coming and having kids. So I just sold my 3DS XL to someone on Craigslist an hour ago for $120 and that paid for my RP 2S. I’d love to have an Odin 2 but I’m more of a 32-64 bit kinda guy anyway so it’s a no brainer. The day will come when a more powerful unit like the Odin 2 will be within my price range, but for now, the 2S is my only viable option based on price alone.
I definitely appreciate that AYN went right in and gave us the SD 8 Gen 2. I'm still shocked that we're seeing this flagship chip in a handheld this year.
We got a major crack in the screen, so we ordered a replacement shell which comes with a screen. Do you think the teardown that you went through will mostly cover the necessary work for swapping the shell/screen?
No testing of input lag? Can you please do it? Russ already tested and compared to other devices, and it still have more latency than other android handhelds, but his methodology were super weird, just the comparisons were useful.
@@Drivenby Man, i hate this mentality. I have an retroid pocket 3 plus, which has a lot less lag than the odin,(i measured around 70-90ms on 60fps games) but i can still feel it, tho i found out 100ms is the threshold of acceptable to me for fast games. I also had the odin lite, and it's huge latency was immediately a turn off for me, so much that i never really enjoyed playing on it and ended up selling it. I play mostly fps games on PC at 144hz, with around 35ms of latency, so i'm much more sensible to latency than the average person. Now considering the Russ testing, which showed the odin 2 has a 33% increase in latency (89 to 119) compared to the rp3plus, that has around 75ms of lag according to my testings, it's barely in the acceptable range (100ms). Also, i can't trust blindly it's testing, his methodology is very wrong, the only thing we can somewhat extract from his testing is that the odin 2 has higher than average latency.
Now take in consideration that some emulators have higher latency than others. Dolphin is the best emulator latency wise and aethersx2 is one of the worst, ppsspp also has a lot of added latency, now if the trend of 33% higher latency continues across all emulators, most games will go from 120ms(most ps2 and psp games has around this) to 160ms, absolutely not fine.
@@leonardomatheus1888 sorry man. I cannot feel it. You are not going to be playing any competitive shooters on this (or at least you shouldnt) . For the games I play it has been perfect. I also have a 144hz GSYNC display on my pc but my expectations when playing BF2042 vs playing on an android based emulation device are not the same. Perhaps you could get an ROG ally (120hz) or a lenovo legion go (144hz) to play retro games on . Perhaps that will satisfy your input latency desires.
Thermal PAD on the heatsink? Do you know what the thickness of that is? I wonder if it's thin enough to be replaced with a thermal paste or even PTM7950 for even better cooling performance
I was going to buy a red magic 8s pro, but this product totally changes things. And I highly doubt that the price will increase because it competes with other consoles.
@retrotechdad So I opened mine up just to see what's up, but the heatsink on my base unit is almost impossible to remove because there are 2 plastic tabs above the heat exhaust and it's basically lodged in there. after wiggling it for around 15 minutes or so, somehow physics bent and realities washed away and I was able to pull it out, but I can't for the life of me replicate it. Your unit doesn't seem like it has those tabs and allowing the heatsink to come off easily!
Hi, I see that the device has both bluetooth 5.3 and snap dragon 8 gen 2. Does this device support adaptx lossless codec for hifi audio? If so this could also be a very capable DAP for audiophile gamers with the right bluetooth amplifier
Really on the fence to change my order to the max. I ordered the pro, but I really don’t know if I have value for the max. I’m going to play up to the Wii at best. But mostly it’s below or Microsoft gamepass. Should I upgrade to the max?
No, I think the Pro will be more than enough for you based on your use case. The model in this video is the pro one and it handles Wii emulation very well. 🙏
@@retrotechdad thanks for the fast reply. Yeah I thought so, but people are talking about future proofing and yuzu being a ram eater. But I genuinely believe with time yuzu will get better with memory. Also maybe, maybe I’ll play switch, but that’s maybe 1 or 2 games like Mario kart. Can the pro handle that? Again thanks for the fast reply
Yes, Mario Kart 8 works great with the Pro model. I've got footage of that one in this video 37:14 I've been doing tons of Switch emulation this year with the Red Magic 8 Pro and my model had 12GB of RAM, so it should serve you very well.
My fan did not work from the first day. Tried everything I could without removing the back (though I am not afraid, I am just traveling cause of Christmas and have not my tooling): tapping, using a can of compressed air to force the fan to spin, set up high performance and fan to max...etc. All I can hear is a clicking sound but the fan does not seem to move (I can actually can see it still thorugh the vent inlet holes). That clicking sound seems to be electric sound, which suggest that the fan is short-circuited... Once I am able to remove the back I will be able to diagnose it properly! Also contacted AYN and waiting for their answer...any suggestions?
The XR2 Gen 2 is based on the SD 8 Gen 2 but it's not as powerful (less cores/lower clock speeds). I talked about it in my Quest 3 video here. 🙏 th-cam.com/video/bVGMSCmXh2U/w-d-xo.html
Friendly Tip : DO NOT buy the white version Odin 2. The plastic quality is bad and absorbs everything that it touches that is a different color. Mine became red after swiping the screen with a microfiber cloth used for glasses. So I tried that same cloth of a white ps5 controller...and it did leave some red color as well, but it was super easily wiped off with an alcohol wipe....but on the Odin 2, its IMPOSSIBLE to clean, I tried alcohol wipe, even toothpaste and ended up damaging the shell finish even more, but the red stains didnt come out. I regret not buying the black model. I paid so much money to have the Max model too, and now after 2 weeks it looks like crap.
Damn, that sucks to hear. My white model is holding up really well, but it's definitely something good to be mindful of and I appreciate you sharing here. 🙏 I actually backed the clear blue and I prefer the way the white looks, it's pretty sleek.
@@retrotechdad I managed to clean 90% of it with one of those Cleaning Sponge Erasers...it's the only thing that worked. But a good idea is to stay away from using colored cloths to clean the screen on the white model
I never buy white devices period. They almost always tend to stain easily. Even my rog ally started to discolor a little. Over the years it will only get worse
Great video! I know it may not matter too a lot of people but there is one android game in particular that I play that has me worried about something. That game is Call of Duty mobile. I don’t know if you have done any testing with it but my concern is that even tho it has key mapping capabilities, that is not a direct replace for controller play. With that being said I own a Logitech G Cloud and found that when opening the game it doesn’t recognize the handheld as a controller, I was able to come up with a work around that was suggested on Reddit that if you Bluetooth connect a PS4 controller to the console the app recognizes that there is a controller connected and it allows me to use the console controls as what I set it as. Where I don’t understand why it doesn’t recognize it on these devices but yet on my RG505 it does after the gamma squeeze install. Do you know if this is the same on this handheld?
This is a fantastic question! I went ahead and checked out CoD Mobile for you and I can't get it to detect the built-in controls even after messing around with a few settings. The weird thing is that it will show as connected in-game in the control settings. I believe with GammaOS, I remember Gamma saying he "tricked" the device to be seen as a bluetooth controller. I'll have to ask him to confirm.
Speaking of emulators needing to mature... Even with the 8 Gen 2, the Star Wars Rogue Leader GC games still has issues despite the extra horsepower. Dolphin runs everything else very nicely and so hopefully future versions will help. I just wanted to let others know that these games use the GC hardware in interesting ways and so you may be disappointed by stutters for these titles.
I got to say I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of issues with the battery charging I already got a refurbished device due to the Odin 2 pro not working anymore and I had to pay customs and DHL (shit courier) all over again.
I want to play retro console as far as gc, dc, ps2...other systems work fine..some ps2 are a bit sluggish..most run fine though. Does Odin 2 run most switch games fine?
Did you order/back an Odin 2 and if you've received it, what are your impressions?
Pinned notes: Charger is NOT included with retail units.
And neither are screen protectors
I’m 107xx going to be a few weeks before mine ships. I was late to the party.
Backed the Odin 2 max on August 22, and just got a mail that they sent it out today, so it should be here within the next week. 😍
I really like how the Odin 2 campaign is a huge victory for AYN. From the experience with the "old" Odins we already knew that these folks are capable of building the best emulation devices you could think of at the time, but now they proved that they can do so far quicker than announced.
My Odin 2 has arrived and the right analog stick is solid and super stiff. Thoughts on loosening it? Or is it a replacement part?
I just received a couple of hours ago. I'm in the process of installing everything. It seems to be great for the moment.
I'm losing my mind I can't wait till I get mine, I keep watching odin 2 videos over and over. Its the steam deck all over again. This device is going to be so good that I think big players like One Plus and Samsung might make a device to cash in
Same here! Can't wait to get my max cold grey version! Need to stock up on some 1tb SD cards now 😅
I'd LOVE to see big players step in kind of like what happened over on the x86 side with ASUS and Lenovo.
@@retrotechdad definitely although i cant imagine more improvements since the chipser we have here is pretty much as good as it gets. Perhaps big players could offer lower procing or even oled, bigger storage perhaps? But performance wise, i think Ayn have ended their own production line since this does it all 😅
@capumam
Yeah, but only if you think no new emulators will be released on Android... never again! 😁
@@clausjahnel5379 true,. but even then, even if a wiiu emulator comes out or a PS3 emulator..i would have thought this device would be able to handle it, even if only at native resolution. After PS3 or Wiiu... PS4? PS5? ok that would need a monster of a handheld...but until something like that happens..probably 5 - 10 years away.
Great review, it seems AYN has done everything right with this handheld and has set the bar for others to follow.
I’m glad I held off on the steam deck. I just want it for retro gaming only and this fits the bill perfectly with the power needed for a great experience and with a good price point.
Yes, they have definitely set the bar high with this one. They've done so much right, I'm honestly very surprised and at the same time really happy about it!
This was the best review of the Odin 2 so far. I'm sure it took a lot of time and effort so well done. My only critique would be to mention what the 3x, 4x etc translates to in output (eg. 1080p and so on)
Really enjoy your videos, thank you for all the effort and getting the community excited about the best Android device ever made!
Btw, I have a blue Odin 2 Pro, havent had much chance to play.....work etc, but the colour is really beautiful 😊
This is awesome. Literally selling my stuff to buy this ASAP! The only console I'll need for a while. Thanks for the review my dude! And the music track you picked to end the vid was perfect. Literally a happy ending song 👌🏻
Very awesome! I'm super happy that you noticed that detail at the end. 🙏
Odin 2 is definitely the handheld of the year and this is the Odin 2 video of the year! Great video, loved the teardown and benchmarks. Only wish the RGB didn't look so terrible on the transparent colors. 😢
Awesome to see another TH-camr using a temperature gun. Just be careful when using a laser on a panel, as it can potentially damage the screen itself. Excellent review all-round!
Thanks so much for stopping by, Kei! 🙏
I always liked using the gun, it's fun to show the thermals and makes for a good visual representation. I'd love to upgrade that cheapo one at some point. 🤣
@@retrotechdad What does an upgraded one add? Love the rgb lights by the way! Which ones do you use?
Fantastic video. Best video about the Odin 2 from anyone!!
Wow, thank you for your kind comment! 🙏🤗
I ordered a black max version, i can't wait to get it !!!! It's the best handheld for now in my opinion ! I hope to see more videos on it and guide !!! Very nice review !
Thank you so much! 🙏 I've got a pretty big one that I'm currently working on with the Odin 2!
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Awesome !@@retrotechdad
The best android handheld no doubt
Just ordered the 2 pro. Can’t wait to play GameCube and PS2 games on this beast!
The Odin 2 is a fantastic handheld, enjoy!
@@retrotechdad
Plays GameCube flawlessly. I haven’t yet tried ps2
In these teardowns of all black interiors, lifting the shadows of the video you shoot in post would be great. Thanks
6:10 look at that beauty... glad I ordered white too... hope Mine gets dispatched before end of November to avoid xmas post delays.... I live in the UK 🇬🇧 so fingers crossed.
Just rushing to home and welcome my clear blue max while listening to your review, very good review with those performance figures. Thanks for your effort.
Ohhhhh, you definitely need to report back here and let me know how you like the clear blue in person. I personally backed the clear blue max as well, just missed the shipping cutoff as of today, sooo close! 🙏
@retrotechdad This is my 4th AYN product, no finger print as those black units is great, I prefer turn on only the side LEDs on the lowest intensity and select yellow light such that it will be greenish to match the charging LED green color.
Fantastic! Thanks Rob 😁. I like that they changed the joysticks but I do wish they put regular sized sticks in it like in the loki. It's not like the device is pocketable so it doesn't really need low profile Joysticks. Oh well..
Yes, that's a very good point! I'm happy that at least it's an improvement over the sticks from the Odin Pro, those were not great for me.
Hi Rob, great video. I really liked how you did purple stuff.
I hope I can preorder an Odin 2 in the next two months.
Wow, someone with the ball units to take one of these apart. :) Great job! Six LEDs on each side...I wonder if they can be individually controlled. What a great opportunity for some neat RGB effects!
That would be very cool, maybe they can implement in a future update!
Nice review! Thanks for going into the UI and physical buttons. Have the Odin 1 and the switch-style analogue sticks became really loud with the spring missing and squeaking.
Pulled the trigger on this one 🎉
Thank you, I appreciate it! 🙏 The analog sticks are a really nice improvement.
I've watched this video like 10 times already. I have to wait until the summer to get mine
Did you get it yet
Awesome review, i received mine yesterday and it's so sick!
Nice! Have fun with it, it's definitely a great device. 💗
@@retrotechdad Oh I plan to man, you as well!!
Thank you for this wonderful review. I can not wait for my unit to ship.
I hope it's soon! 🙏
What an epic review! I'll probably have to get an Odin 2 eventually, but it's weirdly not that exciting to me. At this point in the handheld wars, I'm finding that consoles that serve a niche purpose well are more appealing than that one device that can "do it all". The RGB30 has been so much fun and I'm intensely excited for the Anbernic RG ARC-D/RG ARC-S. It's basically the modern Sega Nomad I've always wanted, but never dreamed would actually happen.
I ordered both RGB30 and Odin 2. Still waiting for my shipment.
screencapture is a game changer! hopefully you can do that with game showcase section too
The Odin 2 THE LAST Android Handheld I'll EVER purchase!
I think many are going to feel the same way for a long time!
@@retrotechdad Yep, I'm hoping that one day we'll get both Wii U and OG Xbox Emulation on Android oh well. At least Strato is just around the corner.
At least until Ayn puts one out with an OLED screen 😂
So you won't get the Odin 3?
@@vlesmeries And now, it's coming.
I cried a little when you used a metal object to separate the shells instead of a guitar pick. But great review. The odin 2 fixes everything wrong with the first. Cant wait until yuzu develops more on android.
I initially used a guitar pick and needed something a bit more rigid to help get those tabs separated. No Odin 2s were harmed in the making of this video. 🙏😁
Same here, I've been tracking the progress of Yuzu on Android since the beginning!
That white is gorgeous, and the only color without bezels. But I would not trust me with white, especially the joysticks, got my lesson with my indigo retroid pocket 2+. So now I'm waiting for my black unit to be shipped 😊
What are bezels
The extra space between the actual screen and the console, like a frame.
@@Senda688 Cool thanks!
Can't wait for mine. Ordered a second one a couple of days ago for my kid.🎉🎉
VERY lucky kid! 🔥🔥
Checkin’ their shipping dashboard every night. I’m pumped.
@AnimeX589 Items valued below $800 are exempt from duty in the US. Probably different for other countries.
Which country are you shipping to? I've never had to pay duty taxes on anything coming to the US. However, I know that's not the same for other countries.
I'm right there with you for my clear blue max model, getting very close now. 🔥👀
@@RynoDBones
To Canada yes
@AnimeX589
No duty for the US
I just regret chosing the transparent blue, the white one looks so damn clean.
It's funny because I really love the white now and I backed the blue. I'm actually torn now. 🤣
Bruhh i know the hardware is good but ya cant deny how cole the white one is.
The white will show dirt which is why I chose the transparent blue
I heard the white discolors easily though. I would go for black
Thanks for getting down to the buttons. I’m annoyed that they can’t be rearranged to an Xbox layout, but I can live with it.
It's definitely annoying when they are uniquely keyed like that. 😭
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Im looking out to have an all in one media player and gaming handheld and this fits the bill replacing my Ipad. Excited to have this soon.
Do you see a world where owning the Steam Deck and Odin 2 makes sense?
I find I never take the Steam Deck out of the house due to its size. I've ordered the Odin 2 to cover that and emulation in a smaller device.
I'm not sure if its excessive though. Not to mention the new Steam Deck OLED is now out there...
I have both steam deck and oin 2 and I honestly hate that both devices are so good on their own and overlap a lot of the same areas, I feel like one has to go. Probably Odin 2 has to go since Steam Deck is just so dang useful in more ways than Odin 2 is. I think If Odin 2 came at a smaller footprint, it would be ok, but it's just too big and thick to be a Steam Deck companion, IMO. Retroid Pocket 3+ would have been a better companion to SD
@@RickyFromVegas interesting. I felt the steam deck is a very big device, I’d never take it outside with me. Sounds like you’ll sell the Odin 2 then?
@@darrenhaken
Yeah, most likely sell the Odin 2 and then replace it with something like Retroid Pocket 2S or maybe RG405m
This is a beautiful package, flicks the flap.
Sometimes you need to flick the flap.
That was a great watch!
They really did improve on pretty much everything from the Odin 1! This is a device that I badly want to own yet I'm going to wait to buy, purely because android software is not keeping up with the hardware on offer 😃
I'd so love to get a Anbernick,
( probably misspelled ) just hopefully it'll have Ranger X.
Obviously I want a ton of games from the start, don't have a computer etc.
But I remember that game being a Bday present, I was like 4 years old, from my Dad, already had me a Sega, or Sega Genesis, can't remember exact.
But I absolutely love that game, to young to remember if I ever beat it, but seeing it be played on TH-cam gives me goose bumps lol.
-Rest in Piece Dad-
There it is!!!
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From what I notice maybe the metal piece on the left analog is shielding from the magnet on the left L2 trigger. Because hall sensors. *magnets*
Thanks for the thorough review!
You're very welcome, thank you for watching! 🙏
Principles is an Android game that has ray tracing and is a great way to show the power of the SD 8 Gen 2. I wonder if the Odin 2 will be able to run Resident Evil Village once the Android port comes out.
It's definitely a cool showcase piece for Android. I really wish we had more examples of what these chipsets can really do. I didn't realize Village is coming to Android as well! 🤯👀
It hopefully will, Plus Bright Memory is also an interesting test for Android Handhelds too. It plays well on the original Odin.
I was saying that I want a system maybe the size of the game gear. It feels great in your hand.... Gonna pick one up
Imagine having an Odin 2 back in the day! 🤤🤤
RIP yuzu
That battery is such a small device is very impressive.
Thanks for the video.
Btw, which Mame version do I have to install?
Mame, moar liek Meme amirite
Thanks for the informative review! Have you noticed the screen is a bit dim? I have been playing with my Odin 2 now for a few days and have to keep the screen at 80 percent or higher brightness to make it look good and that is indoors. Not sure if that can be fixed in future firmware but I don't think its bright enough to play outside at all...
丁寧な動画をありがとう！
スチームデックのように､分解してSSDを換装したりできますか？
No, but you can add a micro SD card to expand storage! 🙏
great video, nicely detailed, really in depth.
Let's go Dad!!!!! Stubbs ❤
Love ya, Stubbs! Thank you for coming by 🙏
F yeah!!!! Great video
Thank you, it really means a lot to me! 🤗
The white color really surprised me with how clean it looks
Battery life literally sounds too good to be true. You're lucky to get 5 hours emulating 6th gen games on other handhelds. Only potential issue I see is poor emulation accuracy, as this is Android and not PC.
it's fine, lasts really long. switch battery life is about the same as the sd oled.
Thank you for your great Review, but i need something to clarify about VRAM 4G Swap, it is safe to turn on? Because i saw a video on youtube about ram swap and in the video said it will shorten the life span your device. Is it true? And if i get the pro model, do i need to turn on ram swap like the base model of ayn odin 2? I need an explanation about this so i can decide which model should i get. Thank you.
Odin 2 is really a new standard for Android Handhelds.
AYN really put Retroid and ANBERNIC in a bad position, when they'll have to use high-end chips in order to stay in competition.
Both Retroid and ANBERNIC probably wanted to suck some money out of buyers with a minor incremental updates and using low-end Dimensity chips.
It’s funny, I don’t see this as competition for the retroid pocket 2S. I finally pulled the trigger on the 2s because they currently have the 4+128gb model on sale for $99. It plays up to some PS2 and some GameCube. For $99 you just can’t beat that. The Odin 2 on the other hand uses the same quality sticks, d-pad, and triggers, but with everything else being a massive upgrade that puts its gaming power on a different level. One that’s more than 4X the price. For me, I just want to get into some retro handheld emulation that includes N64, PS1, and DC and I need to do it on a zero dollar budget. It’s just where I am with Christmas coming and having kids. So I just sold my 3DS XL to someone on Craigslist an hour ago for $120 and that paid for my RP 2S. I’d love to have an Odin 2 but I’m more of a 32-64 bit kinda guy anyway so it’s a no brainer. The day will come when a more powerful unit like the Odin 2 will be within my price range, but for now, the 2S is my only viable option based on price alone.
I definitely appreciate that AYN went right in and gave us the SD 8 Gen 2. I'm still shocked that we're seeing this flagship chip in a handheld this year.
RP2S is a great buy, I love it! 🤗
could you try put a high quality thermal paste and test how it's performance
That would be interesting to test out!
Awesome looking thumbnail!
Amazing review as always
Thank you, Aish! I always appreciate when you stop by 🙏
@@retrotechdad wouldn't miss it
We got a major crack in the screen, so we ordered a replacement shell which comes with a screen. Do you think the teardown that you went through will mostly cover the necessary work for swapping the shell/screen?
get a screen protector too!
No testing of input lag?
Can you please do it? Russ already tested and compared to other devices, and it still have more latency than other android handhelds, but his methodology were super weird, just the comparisons were useful.
I know ayn update the odin 2 and there is less input lag than at begining but i'm not sure.
I have an Odin 2. I dont notice any input lag. Unless you are planning to play super Mario rom hacks you'll be fine.
@@Drivenby Man, i hate this mentality.
I have an retroid pocket 3 plus, which has a lot less lag than the odin,(i measured around 70-90ms on 60fps games) but i can still feel it, tho i found out 100ms is the threshold of acceptable to me for fast games.
I also had the odin lite, and it's huge latency was immediately a turn off for me, so much that i never really enjoyed playing on it and ended up selling it.
I play mostly fps games on PC at 144hz, with around 35ms of latency, so i'm much more sensible to latency than the average person.
Now considering the Russ testing, which showed the odin 2 has a 33% increase in latency (89 to 119) compared to the rp3plus, that has around 75ms of lag according to my testings, it's barely in the acceptable range (100ms).
Also, i can't trust blindly it's testing, his methodology is very wrong, the only thing we can somewhat extract from his testing is that the odin 2 has higher than average latency.
Now take in consideration that some emulators have higher latency than others.
Dolphin is the best emulator latency wise and aethersx2 is one of the worst, ppsspp also has a lot of added latency, now if the trend of 33% higher latency continues across all emulators, most games will go from 120ms(most ps2 and psp games has around this) to 160ms, absolutely not fine.
@@leonardomatheus1888 sorry man. I cannot feel it. You are not going to be playing any competitive shooters on this (or at least you shouldnt) . For the games I play it has been perfect. I also have a 144hz GSYNC display on my pc but my expectations when playing BF2042 vs playing on an android based emulation device are not the same.
Perhaps you could get an ROG ally (120hz) or a lenovo legion go (144hz) to play retro games on . Perhaps that will satisfy your input latency desires.
Thermal PAD on the heatsink? Do you know what the thickness of that is? I wonder if it's thin enough to be replaced with a thermal paste or even PTM7950 for even better cooling performance
Great vid cheers dude.
Thank you so much, it's really appreciated! 🙏
Are the face buttons the same as Odin 1? I am wondering if my Sakura Retro Modding PSX buttons for Odin 1 will work in the Odin 2..
I was going to buy a red magic 8s pro, but this product totally changes things.
And I highly doubt that the price will increase because it competes with other consoles.
wow, didnt realize this is a 51min vid, 🤯
moar liek 69
@retrotechdad So I opened mine up just to see what's up, but the heatsink on my base unit is almost impossible to remove because there are 2 plastic tabs above the heat exhaust and it's basically lodged in there. after wiggling it for around 15 minutes or so, somehow physics bent and realities washed away and I was able to pull it out, but I can't for the life of me replicate it. Your unit doesn't seem like it has those tabs and allowing the heatsink to come off easily!
Great review.
Thank you so much! 😊 🙏
Everytime I have to babysit a kid 16:37
🤣🤣
Hi, I see that the device has both bluetooth 5.3 and snap dragon 8 gen 2. Does this device support adaptx lossless codec for hifi audio? If so this could also be a very capable DAP for audiophile gamers with the right bluetooth amplifier
Does the Odin 2 has the power to powered the monitor, or your mintor has a separate alimentation ? thanks
black pcb looks so good
Really on the fence to change my order to the max. I ordered the pro, but I really don’t know if I have value for the max. I’m going to play up to the Wii at best. But mostly it’s below or Microsoft gamepass. Should I upgrade to the max?
No, I think the Pro will be more than enough for you based on your use case. The model in this video is the pro one and it handles Wii emulation very well. 🙏
@@retrotechdad thanks for the fast reply. Yeah I thought so, but people are talking about future proofing and yuzu being a ram eater. But I genuinely believe with time yuzu will get better with memory. Also maybe, maybe I’ll play switch, but that’s maybe 1 or 2 games like Mario kart. Can the pro handle that? Again thanks for the fast reply
Yes, Mario Kart 8 works great with the Pro model. I've got footage of that one in this video 37:14
I've been doing tons of Switch emulation this year with the Red Magic 8 Pro and my model had 12GB of RAM, so it should serve you very well.
@@cabobrenow you no longer have to worry about yuzu
My fan did not work from the first day. Tried everything I could without removing the back (though I am not afraid, I am just traveling cause of Christmas and have not my tooling): tapping, using a can of compressed air to force the fan to spin, set up high performance and fan to max...etc.
All I can hear is a clicking sound but the fan does not seem to move (I can actually can see it still thorugh the vent inlet holes). That clicking sound seems to be electric sound, which suggest that the fan is short-circuited...
Once I am able to remove the back I will be able to diagnose it properly! Also contacted AYN and waiting for their answer...any suggestions?
Send it back to AYN.
@@-BarathKumarS Nah, fixed it myself. Broken PCB connector, that was the issue.
Brother would you tell me how did you have this review unit? And where did you get their contact info?
Nearly got jebaited by the chart at 33:08 lol until I looked at the numbers
Does Odin 2 has two vibration motor and Odin mini has only one vibration motor?
tira as medidas da pelicula ai por favor , vou pedir pra fazer uma de hidrogel
How does it compare to the xr2 gen 2 on the quest 3
The XR2 Gen 2 is based on the SD 8 Gen 2 but it's not as powerful (less cores/lower clock speeds). I talked about it in my Quest 3 video here. 🙏 th-cam.com/video/bVGMSCmXh2U/w-d-xo.html
What is the memory used for storage?
Does it have an sdcard slot?
It does have a micro SD slot for expandable storage.
Friendly Tip : DO NOT buy the white version Odin 2. The plastic quality is bad and absorbs everything that it touches that is a different color. Mine became red after swiping the screen with a microfiber cloth used for glasses. So I tried that same cloth of a white ps5 controller...and it did leave some red color as well, but it was super easily wiped off with an alcohol wipe....but on the Odin 2, its IMPOSSIBLE to clean, I tried alcohol wipe, even toothpaste and ended up damaging the shell finish even more, but the red stains didnt come out. I regret not buying the black model. I paid so much money to have the Max model too, and now after 2 weeks it looks like crap.
Damn, that sucks to hear. My white model is holding up really well, but it's definitely something good to be mindful of and I appreciate you sharing here. 🙏
I actually backed the clear blue and I prefer the way the white looks, it's pretty sleek.
@@retrotechdad I managed to clean 90% of it with one of those Cleaning Sponge Erasers...it's the only thing that worked. But a good idea is to stay away from using colored cloths to clean the screen on the white model
I never buy white devices period. They almost always tend to stain easily. Even my rog ally started to discolor a little. Over the years it will only get worse
Maybe just a dirty person? Mine is fine after several months
Loco Roco & Katamari ❤️
One of my favorite PSP games and one of my favorite series. 🔥💗
Great video! I know it may not matter too a lot of people but there is one android game in particular that I play that has me worried about something. That game is Call of Duty mobile. I don’t know if you have done any testing with it but my concern is that even tho it has key mapping capabilities, that is not a direct replace for controller play. With that being said I own a Logitech G Cloud and found that when opening the game it doesn’t recognize the handheld as a controller, I was able to come up with a work around that was suggested on Reddit that if you Bluetooth connect a PS4 controller to the console the app recognizes that there is a controller connected and it allows me to use the console controls as what I set it as. Where I don’t understand why it doesn’t recognize it on these devices but yet on my RG505 it does after the gamma squeeze install. Do you know if this is the same on this handheld?
This is a fantastic question!
I went ahead and checked out CoD Mobile for you and I can't get it to detect the built-in controls even after messing around with a few settings. The weird thing is that it will show as connected in-game in the control settings.
I believe with GammaOS, I remember Gamma saying he "tricked" the device to be seen as a bluetooth controller. I'll have to ask him to confirm.
@@retrotechdad awesome!!!! Your the man!
Gamma tricks CoD mobile to recognize the controls as a Bluetooth controller
Speaking of emulators needing to mature... Even with the 8 Gen 2, the Star Wars Rogue Leader GC games still has issues despite the extra horsepower. Dolphin runs everything else very nicely and so hopefully future versions will help. I just wanted to let others know that these games use the GC hardware in interesting ways and so you may be disappointed by stutters for these titles.
but that's how the emulator works FYI,the stutters are because of shader cache which is how the emulator works itself same goes for yuzu.
do any of these modern handhelds have the ability to use peripherals when docked/tv-out, like a guncon for ps1/2?
Depends on the emulator
I got to say I have a feeling there is going to be a lot of issues with the battery charging I already got a refurbished device due to the Odin 2 pro not working anymore and I had to pay customs and DHL (shit courier) all over again.
it's sad to see the face buttons are uniquely keyed, was planning to take it apart and changing it into xbox layout.
Yea, it's a bummer for sure. 😭
two things i don't like are screen size 6" is too small, and the type of screen isn't OLED 120Htz.
I have Odin Pro..should I upgrade to Odin 2?
It really depends on what you’re planning on playing with it
I want to play retro console as far as gc, dc, ps2...other systems work fine..some ps2 are a bit sluggish..most run fine though. Does Odin 2 run most switch games fine?
Does anyone find the screen hurting their eyes when bringing down the menu?
We need a Smaller Pocketable Variant of this that is Pocketable and can Make and Receive Phone calls and Texts.......The Ayn Phone
Try android games like Implosion, Death door,Little nightmares mobile, spongbob cosmic shake
Odin Base or Pro on the video please ? Thanks !
The D-Pad looks cramped and maybe a bit too low. How does it feel to play retro games for long periods?
I want to play modern games like fortnite minecraft gta and rdr2. Can it run that? Also can log into my psn account and play other ps4 games?
i already bought one
Did you receive yours?
I saw that the ayn loki is "able" to Run ps3 Games. Is the odyn 2 also able? I cant find any youtubrr who tried ps3
No, the Loki is a Windows based handheld. PS3 emulation is not available for Android currently.
@@retrotechdad ah thank you very much :)
im between getting this or the loki zero but it seems this is more powerful and seen videos that you can boot win 11 so I think i will go with this
Odin 2 vs redmagic 8 stress test? In games?
does this phone come with gps and accelerometers? can it be used as a phone?
Can the nintendo switch charger be used for this?
Seems like thermals could be improved with UX Pro.
rog ally z1 (not extreme) or odin pro model?
Why would you buy non extreme. Rog ally extreme