Understanding Thirdhand Smoke | Ask This Old House
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- Ask This Old House home technology expert Ross Trethewey and painter Mauro Henrique discuss how to remove a cigarette smell from a home and why it is important to do so
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Steps for understanding thirdhand smoke:
1. Ross explains that the lingering smell left behind by cigarette smokers is actually a form of smoke called thirdhand smoke.
2. Thirdhand smoke is a residue that contains the chemicals from a cigarette and sticks to any porous surface, including carpeting, drywall, furniture, etc.
3. Aside from the nuisance of the smell, thirdhand smoke is also as harmful as secondhand smoke; a recent study indicated that children exposed to thirdhand smoke had equal levels of nicotine in their urine as children exposed to secondhand smoke.
4. To remove the smell and the residue, Mauro suggests that, at a bare minimum, everything needs to be cleaned with a tsp solution. This process includes cleaning the ceilings, the walls, baseboards, floorboards, etc. and then painting over the materials with an alcohol-based paint to seal the building materials.
5. Ross suggests that cleaning the surfaces may not even be enough. If that thirdhand smoke residue has been on the surface for a long time, then the building materials have absorbed it and they need to be completely replaced, which would require a full gut renovation.
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Reason enough not to buy a house that had smokers living in it.
Everyone is saying this teaches you not to buy a house from a smoker. It also teaches you don't smoke in a house you want to sell anytime soon.
or pay someone 20 thousand dollars to paint you house🙄
@@salmonline one cannot paint away tobacco PIC!
@@brookekathryn1980 "PIC!"? do I know what it is you're saying there?
@@salmonline particles of incomplete combustion. Essentially smoking cigarettes is a extremely long duration house fire except it can contain up to 10,000 plus toxic chemicals.
@@brookekathryn1980 So, clean and paint. Just like anyone would. Got it. No need to spend 20 grand.
I helped someone fix their recently purchased small house. The previous owner was a heavy smoker. We took out all walls, ceilings and flooring. The place reeked bad, the windows and doors had a yellow coating of the smoke residue. We saved a few wood boards that looked in perfect condition, big mistake. We ripped one to do a repair and that thing smelled absolutely horrendous when going through the table saw, felt like it took at least a tear off my life.
Never ever buy a smoker's home or even rent it.
Sometimes you can't tell, and sometimes you need a place fast.
yup or the fuggers lie on the disclosure@@RealMTBAddict
I’m a Realtor here in Illinois and I run into smoky houses all the time. It’s a super turn off for buyers.
Wish you where in Colorado! We treat many of these homes for a fraction of the average $25,000
@@brookekathryn1980 Hey, are you in the Denver area? If so, what’s your company name? I’m under contract to buy a condo with a smoke smell and currently weighing my options. Thanks!
@@michaelruston6182 We are in Denver and can absolutely help! I don't want to put my info out here on TH-cam due to the fact that my Google advertising cost will likely dramatically spike... Could you by chance contact me on Instagram @withered_perception and I can get you all of our companies information and we can set up a time that works best to do an assessment (no cost) of the property?
@@brookekathryn1980 Thanks for replying! Found you on Instagram and sent you a quick note.
@@brookekathryn1980 I don't have Instagram, but is there another way to get info on your services regarding cigarette smell removal...just bought a house from smokers and feeling buyers remorse. This video makes it sound like its hopeless to fix and you're better off selling the home and cut your losses.😕
The 3rd hand smoke give me a head ache. I bought a house and whatever they use to cover the stink has worn off. and now all I smell in nasty old smoke. Unfortunately this stink gives me a headache. My walls look OK, I think the carpet was new. I think the smell is embedded in the ventilation ducts.
I remember as a kid cleaning out my uncle's house after he passed away. He was a two pack a day guy and did much of it sitting in his lazy boy recliner. There was a dark yellow-brown circle about 3 or 4 ft wide above that chair.
I dont know how much they got for the house but it couldn't have been much.
I'm an ex smoker, never smoked inside, always had a "smoking robe" I'd take off when coming back inside, kept my clothes and self clean to minimize the transmission to my kids while I kept trying ALL the things to quit the addiction. My parents were heavy smokers. I'd always hated the smell of a house that had been smoked in, and I had always worried about fabrics, but the insulation behind drywall!! That is a brand new eye-opener! Wow! I rent, so I'm extra glad I've never smoked in any of my rental houses, but it makes me even more worried about a particular house I lived in when my kids were younger. Luckily, the last and current rentals I've lived in were newer houses and have never had smokers living in them. This is scary because in today's cut-throat renting market, rentals are medium term at best, eventually we'll have to move on, and there's no way of guaranteeing the next house will be completely smokefree!
Same here I'm an ex smoker also. I never smoked in the house or car. I would always come in and change clothes and even take a shower to get rid of the smell. I even wore gloves so my hands wouldn't get stained up. But it is still an addiction that most can not conquer. Now I can't even stand to be around it. I would never buy a house, car or anything that was ever smoked in. You have to replace everything to get rid of the smell and at that point why bother, just buy one that hasn't been smoked in.
@@josephmauldin3 yes absolutely, I used to brush and rinse my mouth too, luckily I never got nicotine stains, they look so gross. I used to smoke in my first car, but now, nobody's allowed to smoke in my car! I smoked for 28 years all up, and I cringe at the way I used to smell, because I can't stand it now, now I understand why nonsmokers were so dramatic about it 🤣
For someone who doesn’t know, TSP can be bought at hardware stores. It’s an amazing cleaner and degreaser. And always read the label for the proper measurements.
Wait... 30+ years smoking in the building, that's crazy lol... anyway good sharing, first time i heard the term thirdhand smoking
If you can smell it it's harming you.
Going out on the porch to smoke isn't enough to fully save you from this issue either, I've shared new houses with others who always smoked outside but the adjacent living areas acquired the smell permanently. Non-smokers will pick up on the odor even sooner. It's like if you have a dog inside and you think your house doesn't smell like dog but to anyone else it's so obvious.
Thank you for this video. Education is key.
Username checks out.
And when the neighbor goes outside to smoke, they send all that nasty crap into my yard and home. I frequently have to shut my windows and turn the ac to recirculate in my car when following as smoker in town. I won't even consider buying a car that's been smoked in. What an incredibly destructive, selfish and nasty habit it is.
Quit complaining. You get to smoke for free.
You sound like a lot of fun
Excellent report. Sounds like something for the disclosure form. I wonder what the remaining risk is after the thorough, exposed surface treatment described in the video. Could really put a damper on the sale if a house. Thank you!
If all protocol is followed,was than .03% will remain. Sadly, the downside of all of this even with the R&R of the majority of the home is the massive amounts of VOC's that come into play with new building materials which is above safe levels for up to 5 years due to a lack of ventilation unless you call a professional who specializes in removing VOC's...
Think of it this way. If you live in a apartment complex and smoke, you are LEGALLY responsible if anyone has smoking issues. We've had tenants sued by neighbors because they smoke and lost 95% of the time.
My grandma smoked in their new house for 10 years before she died. When we moved in 3 years after her death, we peeled yellow tar off between the wallpaper and drywall. Thankfully she only smoked in the kitchen and bathroom. They had to be gutted to the studs.
That smoke smell is the worst! When I last looked for home, one house had new paint, wood floors and carpet, which you could smell all those scents associated with new, but underlying that was the strong smell of smoke. You could smell it through the paint on the walls. So gross. Needless to say I passed on that house.
You will always have that with most old houses, especially if it was built prior to the 1950's just like lead paint will always be an issue with houses built prior to 1978.
Ben Keysor yep old houses certainly have interesting smells, but this particular house was less than 15 years old. Likely had two or more heavy smokers in it. The smell was really bad. It lingered on the market for a while, I suppose because of the smell, because it was an otherwise lovely home in a great community.
Were looking at houses from from the late 18th and early 19th century. All are fixer upper type houses for fairly short money. Funny thing. In all that we've toured, we've smelled, mold, must, mildew, wood smoke and all manners of other things (including the smell from a pot of soup left in the fridge by the foreclosed upon owners of one place) but never have we detected a lingering scent of tobacco smoke. A bunch of run down 150+ year old houses which never had a chain smoker living in them. What are the odds?
Painting or priming over smoke odors means they are there forever and will leach forever!
Kilz will take care of that
That's insane! Wow!
We made a decision to fully gut portions of our house to get the stench out, long time chain smoker prior to us and the house flipper did a good job hiding it. The piles of demo'd drywall and insulation outside STANK. Also had to spray the framing with BIN because the studs were saturated with the smell. Hardwood floors had to come out also. I'm convinced the house was actively making us sick and just trying to seal it in the existing walls wouldn't work.
We own a disinfecting and odor removal company in Denver. This is all very true! Luckily, we have ways of CDC approved encapsulation and removeing the upwards of 10,000 toxic chemicals found in Third hand smoke from PIC (particles of incomplete combustion) at a fraction of the cost. It's still expensive and still not fun nevertheless but luckily not $25,000 anymore unless you want to call a restoration company. They will gladly charge you $25,000 without batting an eye!
Well it is 'Bastan', things are more expensive there. Plus I'm sure there are liability issues, meaning are they actually able to 'remove' all the smoke residue, so they go overboard on cleaning everything to CYA.
@@deliman7203 We all have the same nationally required guidelines for this process. The only difference is the cost of a restoration company and at that a restoration company on the east coast vs. a company that specializes in only odors! We have technologies that restoration companies simply won't invest in as restoration is a general trade not a specific. The $ racks up quick when it's not your speciality!
@@deliman7203 FYI love the "Bastan" insert! 😂
@@brookekathryn1980 nothing beats a full gut down to the studs. If you buy a house that stinks, negotiate a wayy lower price.
@@MrAbcdefghi12435 It's what we did! We also own a disinfecting and odor removal company so that helps...lol
there is a sealing system that is usually done right after drywall stage that vaporizes a material into all surfaces (done to get a higher blower-door result). Could this be a method to seal off those surfaces from the 3rd-hand smoke problem?
Sadly no the micron range is far too large.
Any recommendations on how to cover air vent? Unfortunately I have a family member who smokes inside house and its starting to affect my health I tried leaving the vent closed however the smoke/air still passed through so I tried placing a towel but eventually took it off because I was worried I'd cause a fire Any recommendations on how I can seal off the vent will be much appreciated Thank you 💕
Tell them to stop been such a selfish A hole. Ask they why they think your life should be shortened for their bad habits?
I bought multiple levoit air purifiers to run whenever I was in my room. One on the bed and another in the dresser. Both were by my head to try to prevent the smoke from getting near my mouth
Move out
Can't they smoke outside?????
Sounds like a negotiation / buying opportunity - especially if a major remodel is already in the plan.
FYI - alcohol-based primers typically involve shellac. Shellac is commonly used by restoration companies to encapsulate smoke smell from fires
Even still Shellac is .67 microns. PIC is .05... I say negotiate your butt off but the place. Have a professional treat it and use the money to make it yours!
@@brookekathryn1980 so which is better? Please lmk
@@janetmaseil9609 Nome are "good"! I'd invest In chemicals to properly wash the walls and ceilings if you don't have a professional that can properly treat the home or space!
Reminds me of going to Las Vegas years ago for vacations. Most of the time the hotel rooms stunk of cigarette smoke. Ah the good old days. lol
Bought a house that we didnt know 2 owners ago smoked. We painted the walls with Bin Zissner shellac based primer and are working our way thorugh the ceilings, floors and walls with it. I believe the problem is coming from the vents. Does anyone know if having my vents professionally cleaned and sealed will help? One company said they use soot sealer that seals the vents. Any suggestions. thank you.
A local company told me they could clean the vents and air ducts and then apply a sealer. We plan to do that over the summer. Look up for local post-disaster cleaning companies on Google.
@@cindy846 Thank you. I did find a place that offered the sealer but it was for cracks in the vents. Some places I called say cleaning the vents will help with the cigarette smoke and some say it wont so we dont know what to believe. Good luck this summer when you get your vents cleaned. I hope it works out well.
TOH after a good cleaning will the :"Kilz primer" smoke and order blocker work ?
A good cleaning is step 1 of 6, on the otherhand Killz is .8 micron PIC from smoking is .05 micron. The only thing you did was prevent the larger particulate from being sensed by your olfactory receptors while allowing around 280,000ppm of any mix of 10,0000 toxic carcinogenic chemicals at around 0.0015% per sq/in p/m while ensuring that a professional cannot remove said chemicals ensuring that what ever you painted would have to be demoed in your home!
No
That 25k must all be in labor costs. TSP, alcohol-based primer, and new paint is less than 500 bucks. I'd even spend the extra money to get an ozone generator to really get the odor out (another 60 bucks for a basic one). The only way it would be more than that would be if it's so smoky that the smoke seeped way into the wood of the house and the ventilation.
Would it be easier to just gut the whole place?
I came to that conclusion and did so in my house. Gutting is really the only way to get the saturated material out permanently, assuming you have the time and money to do it.
My home still smells like smoke after it almost caught on fire should I worry still because it still stinks like burn plastic or rubber has been like 2 months already
Definitely get that fixed. Half our house burned down and the entire thing had to be gutted and sealed
@@braydinjones6301 do u think theirs something still burning inside the walls or something??
@@EduardoRamirez-cp6uq Probably not. Once that smoke enters porous materials it’s there to stay for a LONG time.
@@braydinjones6301 ok good because I’m always worrying all day and night thinking that my home might catch on fire while we’re all sleeping with the family
From what I gather, it would be cheaper to burn the house down and start all over.
Once the smoke clears, so to speak.
In my case a mini nuke.
My house had 98 years of smokers. We did d not TSP. Some areas took extra coats of paint.
Alas, 11 years later, on a hot/hot day (no a/c), the attic stairway or master closet will knock you out when you first access them.
I almost bought a house like this luckly it was 10grand to much dodge a bullet if the filter and paint didnt work i would be f....d .
Had a small 1 bedroom condo that a lady had smoked for 15yrs in. We had to do the kitchen over so that was easy to get rid of the smell, but the rest was a serious cleaning, new carpet, 2 coats of oil based Kilz on everything, followed by 2 coats of paint. Couldn't smell anything after, so it can be done, just a lot of work.
So you cleaned and painted the place? How awful?
@@salmonline, What's so awful ?
Killz has a micron size of .8 smoke has a micron of .05 you where breathing a toxic mixture of chemicals till the day you moved. Just because you can't smell it or are noseblind to it doesn't mean you stopped it. Infact you just sealed it in so a professional can't remove it... But that's another person's issue now...
@@brookekathryn1980, It's all good, even had the air tested 9 months after the renovation because I was concerned for future renters. The test came back negative for anything harmful for humans or animals. So, I must have done something right.
@@augustreil Those test are looking for VOC's and ATP. It has nothing to do with PIC and they cannot detect it with such tests. No onsite test is looking for carbon sourced combustion particulate unless your sending it off to a third-party lab at the cost of about $3,000.
What about ozone treatment?
Ozone is only one step of 6 to properly remove thirdhand smoke.
One of the best things you can do to an older house is replace the drywall. Makes it feel like a brand new house
what about the lath and plaster?
@@denisrhodes54 Replace it with drywall.
What if the wall had plaster ?
@@daniquethompson2853 if you like plaster then don’t remove it, otherwise replace it with drywall.
I wish my landlord would do that. Paying $10k a year but they refuse to fix anything. My clothes smell like cigarettes after 5 months. I will have to move out.
👍
Who the hell still smokes in their house or car?
And, yes..I smoke.
People that intend to never sell. They think well smoking is gonna kill me long before this house goes on the market so who cares?
Pot heads. lol
The same kind of people who smoke in their cars.
@@lenn55 they were, as was I, talking about cigarette smoke.
If you can't keep up with the conversation and have nothing insightful to add, STFU and stick to licking windows. Dooosh.
Renters of course. They don't GAF about the structure they're staying in.
Wow. That sucks!
Seems cheaper to DiY replace the sheetrock and insulation, whichnis usually only on thr exterior walls anyway. At about $8 per sheet and and an that would make an average room about $200 to $250 to remediate. Most American homes have 3 bedrooms and four to six common areas plus two bathrooms. I wont include the bathrooms assuming most of them are tiles and easily cleaned without having to gut them. A fair guess is about $2500 for cost of materials. Granted you would be doing this for a couple of months if you work full time and be giving up all of your weekends. Now if the floor is permeable you would need to replace it so that could really add at least double if not triple the cost. And if you want to hire everything out then you are looking at about the same price but I would rather do that and have a new home then just to clean a bunch of old crap for the same price.
Exactly!
Would an ozone machine do anything? I think I can rent one.
Probably but the chemicals will still remain as a health hazard. It’s really nasty stuff man.
You can use a good Killz Primer/sealer and it will solve most of the problems with leftover nicotine residue on the walls. However unless you do a complete gut and remodel you will never get rid of the residue 100%. If you don't want to deal with it, avoid old houses because there is always a possibility someone smoked in it at one point in time or do a complete gut and remodel.
Kills has a micron rating of .8 PIC from third hand smoke has a micro. Rating down to .05 micron. It's a 100% guarantee that the smell will return in time!
@@brookekathryn1980 is Zinzer any better?
@@AverageJoe4063 Zinzer is rated at .78 micron... so a tiny bit. Sadly even the alcohol based primers are only .71 at best! There is no substitute for good old fashioned elbow grease to start removing cigarette smoke odors! This needs to be followed by an oxidizer treatment at 50,000+ mg/h at no more than .05 micron to neutralize the majority of the 10,000 toxic chemicals, followed by a thermal fog of a tobacco specific organic solvent encapsulatior which again needs to be at .05 micron. Followed by one more elbow grease wash to remove the remaining encapsulated PIC. This is bare minimum! Trapping the third party smoke under paint or primer will simply require those surfaces to be removed at a later date. The permeability of paint related products makes it easy for the toxic chemicals to equalize by negative pressure, but will prevent a professional from removing them with positive pressure without destroying the surface or other structure/electrical in your home or office!
@@AverageJoe4063 Zinzer 1-2-3 is really bad. Their technical sheet states ". A single coat applied at 36 micron dried film thickness." That's no good at all! That means 720, .05 micron odor causing mix of any of the 10,000 toxic carcinogenic chemicals can neutralize out of just one 36 micron hole or 288,000 toxic microns per every 0.0015 inches... You can't paint your way over smoke odors or you live with them forever! And that doesn't even include the nicotine or tar. That's just the PIC
I now know why my rent is so cheap. Clothes smell like cigarettes after 5 months.
what teaches us that? Don't buy a home from a heavy smoker :)
I suffer from 8th hand smoke my entire life of 43 years.
As I was watching this I was thinking gut it.
All the while thinking that thought process was just my peculiar compulsive perfectionism kicking in.
You know, I really hate it when someone encourages my CP. It's hard enough to deal with.
Then again, maybe that wasn't my CP, maybe that was the Holy Spirit directing.
Scott Tovey So in the Bible it says if you get mildew try and clean it but if it comes back remove it brick by brick....So you’re good....
@@user-xx7pg3vw9k
Even in our time, in severe cases of mildew, a gut and sometimes, a tear down is still the only solution that works.
Yeah, there are cases where it is that bad.
Come on !! You got to be kidding!!! That's crazy !! What's next?
Repaint use the ozone generator the entire house for 72 hours the house will smell like new.
...and remember: ozone is toxic to humans too.
@J0e T Exactly! Ozone is only one step in the process! Also most ozone generators lack the power to generate 50,000-100,000 mg/hr for a proper shock treatment. Anything less than this can damage anything electrical in the home or office!
Ozone is actually worse for you than smoke and it only masks the odors. It doesn't clean anything. Many UV lights produce ozone. Stay away! If you go UV, make sure it's UV-C.
@@AverageJoe4063 Don't go down that path. Ozone is unstable and typically only has a half life of 20 minutes which means I. U see an hour a space treated with ozone is safe. Ozone is actually an extremely effective oxidizer! Ozone being an unstable oxidizer will kill and destroy any living organism or microorganisms. It's 99.99998% effective turning most microorganisms I to carbon dioxide and water vapor. I think you're simply mixing tropospheric ozone which is made from UV mixing with pollution and NOx with clean stratospheric ozone which actually breaks down tropospheric ozone. It's the reason many hospitals use O3 to sterilize medical equipment!
@@fredochs Only during treatment! The half life of ozone is only 20 min. It's far to unstable. O3 begins to degrade the moment it leaves the machine this is the reason for professional 50,000 mg/h+ units to achieve proper saturation.
My duplex has a terrible nicotine odor from the past 50 years. My landlord refuses to fix it. I will have to move out. All my clothes smell like cigarettes.
This is scary third hand smoke. I never even heard of that term.
Because it's a made-up term, just like second-hand smoke.
@@nelsonbrum8496 All terms are made up. We live in a society. Once a term is understood by the masses, there's no point complaining it's "made up" anymore.
@@nelsonbrum8496Lol you really think secondhand smoke isn't real?
Please no freehand camera on Ross.
What about 30 years of farts smell?
Open the windows. Sulfur based compunds are oxysolvent... Lol
Simple and cheap solution. Only sell to smokers.
Hi
is this a scare tatic or science. i think quoting a source is a very important thing to mention here.
Im too important
Third hand smoke is absolutely not a scare tactic it is a very real problem. Our company specializes in it We definitely don't charge $25,000 though as there is new technology on the market to encapsulate the particles of incomplete combustion prior to ceiling smoke particulate!
did you read the description?
Your probably going to get good/safe results with repainting (kilz or comparable primer) and replacing carpeting (also seal subfloor). That's expensive but if you paint yourself and don't buy super fancy carpet it's way less expensive. DIY the paint and carpet removal and you can do a 2000 sq ft home for less than $10,000. $2,000 to $4,000 for carpet and similar for paint. That price is the cost to hand it over to a 3rd party contractor and have them "manage" and do the work. No offense to painters/contractors but that's an avoidable expense.
Killz is only .8 micron smoke is .05. if you seal the smoke and 10,000+ toxic chemicals they can never be removed and will leach not your home or office until that primed or painted surface(s) is/are removed!
@@brookekathryn1980 kilz or zinzer or any High quality alcohol/schllac based primer is adequate to seal heavy organics from back leaching provided you clan and seal all surfaces. You can have air fresher than outdoors when you are done. If you watch the video that's the advice the guy just gave! I agree with the treatment prescribed....just think the average American could do it themselves for way less than a company.
@@Ikantspell4 correct both kills and zinzer will seal in heavy organics. The issue is PIC from cigarette smoke is carbon-based and non-organic synthetic particulate. this particulate is 05 micron whereas both kills and zins are seal ed at around .8 micron after 3 to 5 coats. Yes your air quality will be better initially after you seal it as it can take up to 3 years before neutralizing pressure forces the overwhelming 10,000+ chemicals to begin to leach out of the alcohol-based primer sealers at a rate of around 280,000 particles per minute for every 0.0015% of an inch. Meeting that after 3 years not only will these chemicals cause substantial leaking but will also raise the PPM above safe limits.
@@Ikantspell4 Now you should understand the guy gives this advice as after ripping out walls structural components subflooring carpet any soft surfaces the majority of hard surfaces that aren't treated and even most electrical components. What he didn't specify in here is that multiple treatments at .05 microns must be had via the EPA and CDC to encapsulate the PIC prior to an alcohol-based shellac primer sealer to be placed over the top of any surfaces to help prevent these carbon-based components that may have been missed from returning at a later date. One cannot simply apply a shellac-based primer directly over the top of an untreated chemically toxic surface. There is a 100% guarantee the 10,000 plus toxic chemicals will return!
@@brookekathryn1980 Your advocating overkill. There's thousands of "chemicals" everywhere. Theirs only evidence that high concentrations of certain chemicals are dangerous. For people who properly clean and seal surfaces, not just walls subfloor top to bottom. Indoor air wil be Cleaner with lower contaminate parts per million than outdoor air. This is long term. There's no/little evidence that stuff other than VOC will be harmful. You can O1 treet before hand to try to expedite off gass but really you need 6 sides of sealer. Test show that's going to make it cleaner than outdoors.
Burn it down. The only way to be sure. lol
Might add more smoke to the mix😂
@@brookekathryn1980
*_WE'RE ALL DOOMED!!_*
@@mbgrafix basically 😂
This reminds me of this story from Adam Savage th-cam.com/video/v-eK_cpTsOw/w-d-xo.html
R I P O F F !!!!!!
Will never buy a house from a smoker
*doubt*
What kind of research has gone into the use of ozone? Auto detailers use ozone to remove the smell from cars.
Ozone is an extremely effective oxidizer and disinfect. Sadly it will not penetrate thick layers of PIC from smoking. Ozone simply oxidizes the surface micron and the soft surfaces and only with professional units that can produce 50,000 mg/hr+. It is only one step in the process to remove the layers of 10,000 carcinogenic chemicals.
First! Please like this .this old house
I’m so proud of you
i would be cheaper to get the house by far
$25,000? You might as well just let the house sit, with windows open, for a year or so.
you could soak the house with ozone for a few days. It would take care of much of the smells
What about marijuana smoke , and all other carsenagenes ie smoke from wood stoves incense ext? Please make sure the science is not coming from a non profit that makes its money on studies like this.
1) Ew!
2) Ew!
3) Thirdhand Smoke?! Yuck.
🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄
I love my house, was bought 5 years ago from a man who smoke a pipe for 30 plus years. smells wonderful in here.
This is part of the reason why we should push people to vape. None of those chemicals, just PG and VG, which will condense on the walls and can be easily cleaned up.
Vaping is similar to a protein fire... We remove that crap all the time... It sucks just as bad!
Here comes the next requirement/abatement with purchasing a home. We have asbestos, lead, radon, mold and now 3rdhand smoke testing, coming soon! What about spices? I've frequented some open houses and the stink from cooking spices means that walls, HVAC, appliances, etc, need removal/replacement. And for smoke, I live near a 40yr mother that smokes around her 3yr old and 3 month old children. You walk into their enclosed patio and your lungs burn from the menthol (Camel Crack?). Can't imagine the children, let alone the next buyer of that home. Ignorance is rampant lately!
bulldoze the house and start over.
You're being overdramatic
Bullshit
B S RIPOFF !!!
You are good at yelling and failing to write a constructive message.
What a scam. It’s cheaper just to paint the house.
House paint is 42 microns. Toxic chemicals in PIC are .05... You won't stop the toxic chemicals from leaching due to naturally occurring neutralization.
@@brookekathryn1980 there is NOT 1 single case linked to 3rd hand smoke. Ever.
@@IceColdKilax I'm going to suggest you retract that statement and check out the NEHA and CDC reports before you make such vapid claims! 😂
@@IceColdKilax here's the reality. There are few ways to remove third hand smoke from a home or office. Non of them are to cover up the chemicals with primer sealer. The proper way to remove thirdhand smoke is R&R or you can call us where we 1. oxidize 2. Neutralizing 3. Encapsulate 4. Wash 5. Repeat until the toxic chemicals test in and under the surface (insolation) at less that. 0.0123PPM. 6. Solvent thermal fog at .05 micron and 6. Nanotech encapsulation . Feel free to contact one of our IICRC trained estimators on your next experience. The cost starts at just $250 per 2,500 sqft with is cheaper than your magical. 8 micron shellac and actually works unlike killz or zinzer. Let's not forget we and our process is certified by OSHA, IICRC, World Health Organization, CDC and the EPA.... But you keep arguing a mute point against a professional whom dose this for a living... 😂
@@IceColdKilax here's the reality. There are few ways to remove third hand smoke from a home or office. Non of them are to cover up the chemicals with primer sealer. The proper way to remove thirdhand smoke is R&R or you can call us where we 1. oxidize 2. Neutralizing 3. Encapsulate 4. Wash 5. Repeat until the toxic chemicals test in and under the surface (insolation) at less that. 0.0123PPM. 6. Solvent thermal fog at .05 micron and 6. Nanotech encapsulation . Feel free to contact one of our IICRC trained estimators on your next experience. The cost starts at just $250 per 2,500 sqft with is cheaper than your magical. 8 micron shellac and actually works unlike killz or zinzer. Let's not forget we and our process is certified by OSHA, IICRC, World Health Organization, CDC and the EPA.... But you keep arguing a mute point... 😂
i call bs
Not at all sadly. The only real BS is the cost but on the east coast everything is more expensive so who knows...
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