I for one welcome a new generation of 'Comics are Weird' segments from all the lesser known stuff on the slate. The Authority sounds like something that goes nuts pretty quickly.
It started off on pretty solid ground during the Warren Ellis run, then took a hard left turn into edgelord territory when Mark Millar was handed writing duties. It was the latter incarnation that was the inspiration for The Elite in "Whats so funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" and "Superman vs The Elite."
@@jadedheartsz Millar was a highlight of the original run for me. The arc with The Americans is some of the most fun you can have with early 2000s comics
@@jadedheartsz Ellis managed to do an entire brilliant run of Authority without involving the American government in any way. Millar got handed the reins and _immediately_ had to get his fixation on US politics in there. Have you ever hung out with a guy who has strong opinions on politics, and just _won't shut up?_ And you _agree_ with him about everything he's saying, and he _knows_ you agree with him, but he just keeps talking, because he doesn't _have_ anything else interesting to say? That's Millar. Never have I been more annoyed by an argument in favor of a position I already agree with. His work is dark, and puerile, and thinks it's sophisticated. That's what makes it edgelord writing.
@Justin Riley And for pete's sake, can we bring back the iconic John Williams theme??? No disrespect to Zimmer, but go back and watch the teaser for Superman Returns and tell me that the music (not the film itself) doesn't stir the emotions!!!
I would like a Superman movie where he's married with Lois, they're happy and they have a family, it's not perfect but they're working on it- I'm talking about Superman and Lois, aren't I?
Last time they tried to push a Christ Narrative to emphasize his alien god-like nature combined with a misguided Watchmen style deconstruction. He's just a regular guy from Kansas who thinks he'd be an incredible dick if he didn't try to help other people. He's not some inhuman deity looming over humans whose only moments of interaction with any human not named Lois Lane seems to be one of deep ennui and Weltschmerz, he's the kind of guy who in real life would end up being an EMT a fireman or find ways to make the world better.
Forgive me for commenting before watching the whole video. What I find really fascinating about all of this is what Pacemaker revealed about James Gunn's state of mind. Both the text and subtext was dripping with hatred of white supremacists, and I loved it. What's interesting about this is that it kind of puts him in the same head space as the people who created the superhero genre during the Golden age. Most of the writers and artists were Jewish sons of immigrants who were trying to process what was going on in Germany. I think this could get interesting.
The interesting thing about the Authority is that if it's all the same world, it sets up an inevitable collision course between them and the more idealistic Superman. The Elite in Superman vs the Elite (which in turn was based on the comic Superman #775) was supposed to be a pastiche of the Authority. So it could be that down the line, if this all works out, we could get a live action version of that story.
Yes. First off, yes, I thought the Elite were a version of the Authority. Now, the one thing I really like with the Authority is that they try an tackle real-world issues, not just standard super-villains. I'm very interested to see if DC is willing to let their Authority go after real-world stuff like corporations or capitalism (our world's super-villain). There. I said it.
I do still that Elite should be separate and maybe be inspired by Authority, because Elite based mostly on Mark Miller era which lacks complexity og Warren Elis run which started it.
I'm with Linkara in that I think The Authority should be kept separate from the other D.C. stuff, i'm guessing it's probably going to be an Elseworlds films.
I've just read Superman & The Authority, where Superman is losing his powers, and recruits the Authority as antiheroes who he thinks all have the potential to become real heroes. Could be an angle they're thinking of?
The one Waller storyline they should adapt is hell to pay. I mean the Suicide Squad having to deal with supernatural bs to get a literall "get out of Hell"-card for their boss, works on so many levels.
Brave and the Bold is going to have Bruce and Damian, so that's interesting. Though I hope we'll see some other Batfamily cameos. Like Alfred gets a call from Dick, who's doing his own thing, Tim is solving an international mystery, Stephanie and Jason are laughing because haha Bruce has to deal with Little D, Cassie is like "I love you but I gotta help out with this other thing off screen" and you know what? Duke is there but he's at summer camp.
Gunn and Safran confirmed that the Bat-Family will be present in the film. Personally, I hope that Jason is still dead, because I wan to see Under The Red Hood adapted to the big screen.
@@antoniobudelecan6077 That would be nice (Under the red hood the animated movie is a favorite batman movie) but isn't that before Damian comes into the picture? Then again, Bruce will have to deal with Damian and Jason 😈
I was thinking it would make sense to have Nightwing be a supporting character, contrast the original Robin (and the one audiences have a point of reference for) with the new one.
Oh you'll get cameos, From every single batman villain at the same time. That last Batman film had 3 villains, and Catwoman, and ten secondary characters...no wonder he couldn't solve a single crime, he was too busy talking to everyone
I’m intrigued by the idea of animated and live action shared universe. Assuming the films actually work, that could be great, but the DC animated stuff has been better by and large so I don’t want it to get dragged down
I am honestly just bummed about the Damian news with him being the first Robin. Dick Grayson is my favorite superhero, and in the comics he is the most important mentor figure in Damians life and I am so tired of adaptions downplaying that dynamic. It was Dick Grayson who took in Damian as his Robin when Bruce Wayne was thought to be dead and he was filling in as Batman, doing the same thing Bruce did for him when he was a helpless orphan and helping set Damian towards the right path. Dick is a important figure in Damians life, even more so than Bruce. And sure we can lighten up Batman to make him fill a similar role as Dick, but the found family aspect is lost.
While being double cast isn't as much stringent as it used to be, he was already Dr. Sivana, & could make a reappearance in future Shazam sequels if that happens.
I’ve wanted a slightly revised Clark Kent to go deeper on the American immigrant angle with a particular twist. Who are farm workers in 21st Century America? Immigrants. What makes Clark different from Bruce? Family Go from Martha to Marta, and let Clark have aunts and uncles who can impart life lessons and help him navigate a life of being an insider/outsider in America. So many opportunities for good story telling. Also I want John Leguizamo as Superman’s Tio.
Going straight to Damian is a bummer but i hope that means that the rest of the family is around and for more than just cameos or references. My personal hope is for Cassandra Cain, my favourite member of the Batfamily.
Okay, I had no idea the Authority had been integrated into the DC universe. I've read some of it from before that - it's... pretty rough. Almost like torture porn for superheroes in spots.
They had a big role in the main Superman book just last year which makes me wonder if that idea came from Gunn to help catch up modern audiences with the concept.
This is all good and all. But I will wait until I see how Gunn handles the big executives wigs playing interference once any of this goes into production.
Yeah. People are like. "They haven't fired this particular person yet!" and I'm like. They haven't released the final movie with that person yet. They aren't going to fire them until after they have done the promo work for said movie at the very least.
Green Lantern falls into the Lensman end of space opera, and the public mind is already infected with Jedi for that.... It'll be uphill, is what I'm saying.
He said that he wants the characters to be consistent throughout film and animation. I’m curious to see how he’s going to make Brave and the Bold work. Where are they going to find a kid who can consistently play him in multiple films? In the years it takes between movies are made, the kid could have grown well through puberty. Thus, between two movies that might be months apart in-universe, Damian will have grown and aged several years. I wonder who they’ll get and how they’ll square that circle.
Euphoria had this very issue. The actor playing Ashtray was a young kid during Season 1, yet despite season 2 only being a few months after, his actor is very noticably older. Maybe for Damian, they'll have him age with everyone else.
Regarding the Lanterns show, This would be a good way to introduce the other Lanterns who aren't green, The Red Lanterns would be an interesting one to see in live action, Because one of its main members is a Cat name Dex-Starr, He's a fan favorite characters, and you know James Gunn is really good with characters who are animals.
Honestly, to me this whole thing just reeks of "Let's throw everything we possibly can at the wall and hope to god that enough of it sticks to make into a franchise."
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 The feelings I keep getting on this are mixed with the knowledge of who Gunn answers to. Ergo, I need proof before I will be anywhere close to excited.
I wish people would stop saying The Authority are like The Seven from The Boys. The Authority are super powered anti-heroes, like an X-Men team of all Wolverines. Not so different from certain incarnations of X-Force, in fact. They are vicious and uncompromising, but they are still focused on saving lives and protecting the planet. The Seven are just a bunch of psychopaths and narcissists who pretend to be superheroes for public consumption. Not a one of them actually cares about helping people.
Man seeing those Damian clips reminded how much I really liked Damian and Raven’s relationship in the animated movies and it’s a real shame that that ended in yet ANOTHER flashpoint after the Earth got screwed up.
I hated that relationship because at least in Teen Titans, you got to see Raven organically connect to others. Plus they tried to make Damien the star of every single one of his appearances, while making Nightwing look like a joke...bad characterizations
seeing them FINALLY make the lantern corps as a live action movie after all this time would be really good. feels like they are terrified to even touch the IP after that horrible CGI suit.
For a brief moment, I imagined Damon Waynans in Son of the Bat. How would Batman explain how his oldest son is a middle age Black comedian to Commisioner Gordon? It was a funny thought at least.
21:00 This is a deal breaker. DC has always had a "We want Marvel's Phase 2: Avengers and crazy shit we just throw at the wall," and they've ALWAYS been too lazy to put in the actual work. If the first Batman project in your cinematic universe is "Robin: Part 4," you're goddamned insane. I "get" that maybe you don't want to do another Batman origin. Good news! You can do a Robin Origin and crib entirely from BTAS; problem solved. And then you can do a Talia/League of Assassins/Shadows/whatever marketing says is okay movie. Then you do a DIFFERENT Movie. Then, N years later, you introduce a 10 year old son of Batman. Conceived, not cloned. You got to build the foundation.
Also I think it's great that they're keeping an Elseworld section for other versions of their DC stuff where they can get all weird, arty or do whatever while they have the main inter-connected main story on the other side. That sounds fun and come to think of it, I'm not sure if Marvel is doing or considered. Maybe that could lead to some changes and maybe them making an official separate label at Hulu or something for anything a little more intense they don't or can't have under their Disney+ brand. Kind of like how Disney used to have Touchstone. Not sure if they see the profit or can do it, but I hope they consider it. And well, DC proves it can be done first and Marvel can attempt to do their own version on it as well.
WB has to stop announcing future film slates! remember all the films announced in the first wave of the snyderverse? and the Flash what ever version its on now is only releasing this year. Honestly until trailers are up all these films are at best 'maybe they will happen'.
Thing is Marvel has they versions of darker superhero teams but both are alternative universe. You have Squadron Supreme which is basically they take on Justice League in same vein as Snyder's version and then there is Ultimates that's dark alternative universe version of Avengers from Ultimate universe.
The Ellis/Hitch run of Authority are _my peeps._ They were then subsequently fucked up and poorly written by any number of writers. If they can somehow bottle the lightning that was that first run of the comic and put it on screen - shit, the world isn't ready. That book was fucking _custom made_ to be a megablockbuster.
I’m sorry, while The Authority would make a great film, I really don’t see t happening. Eventually the suits are going to pick up the books and just say “NOPE”
it'll happen but it'll mostly likely be an elseworlds story as IMO The Authority never really worked when they tried to integrate it with the rest of the DC universe.
Almost all of this sounds good to me. If they want to do Lanterns with both JS and HJ as space cops that should work. Booster Gold has always been one of the few DC stories I’ve consistently liked, and the tech to make a good, presentable film of him has been available for a while now. I’d love to see an inverse Buck Rogers movie. Not sure how well Supes and WW fit into this mythos, but like everyone else, I’ll watch these and I’ll like them until I don’t. 😊
Trying to set up Brightest Day right from the get go seems perilously ambitious. If they can pull it off, then damn... But like that's like starting with Everest.
As someone who's currently marathoning all of the Batman theatrical releases, I'm hype for a new Batman and Damien. I hope we reclaim some of the fun of the pre-christopher Nolan stuff.
Still waiting for the years long campaign by the Snydercult to get that Batgirl released. Because artists rights, right? All the same reasons, right? 😏😏😏
One of the good things about the DC shakeup is that I'm really hoping the Keanu constantine movie got cut. Love Keanu but there is no better constantine in my eyes than Matt Ryan and the constantine brand feels like a perfect fit for how james gunn does his thing. There is even quite a bit of crossover between Swamp Thing and Constantine so I'm crossing my fingers.
I say make this a multiverse property. Two Lucifers , Gwendoline Christie and Peter Stormare, show up and try and recruit Lucifer Tom Ellis into a cabal to finally take down heaven. When he refuses they try and kill him so he flees and seeks out Matt Ryan's John Constantine for help. At the same time Jenna Coleman's Johanna Constantine shows up saying they need to find Keanu's John. He is off fighting demons in some other dimension and knows the location of some McGuffin that could save the day. I mean how fun would it be to see those two evil Lucifers chew scenery together, while the Ryan/Coleman/Ellis trio banter as Keanu tries to keep them focused on anything other than sex.
For the Green Lantern show, the promo image they used was from the Earth 1 Green Lantern series... where Hal was Green and John was Yellow. Maybe possibly why they're calling it 'Lanterns'?
I've never heard of The Authority. Thanks for your description clarifying it as kind of being a The Boys type series. I'm a little curious about that. Not particularly sold on it sans a trailer.
It's like The Boys in having the transgressiveness/ultra violence; I think of it more as being Justice League but everybody is absurdly OP. Like, their ship can open portals from anywhere to anywhere. The Engineer has nanobots for blood and can make any device out of them. The Shaman can do... pretty much anything, it seems? But is spaced out most of the time.
@@LaurieCheers The Authority is actually far more idealistic than The Boys, which is an interesting contrast with the violent moments. It's pretty complex in how it deals with its archetypes, as they are more powerful and more proactive than a Justice League, but also more flawed and maladjusted. People with the power of Gods who are trying to do their best, but are messed up and fallible in some relatable ways.
Creature Commandos idea: Rick Flag gets made into a modern Frankenstein, slowly realizing he's been resurrected into a new continuity, basically becoming the psycho pirate of the new DC movies
My ONLY issue with the slate is Swamp Thing, and not because I don't want a Swamp Thing movie, I DESPERATELY want a Swamp Thing movie. But I heard the word "origin" thrown around...and that means we're sweeping aside the excellent Swamp Thing TV series. I know, clean slate, rebuild the DC universe from the ground up here. But that show wasn't canceled because it wasn't good or popular, it was canceled because of budgetary mistakes. The company wrote the budget for a 13 episode season under the knowledge they'd get a rebate from the town they were shooting in...only to find out after production was already underway that they were only getting that rebate for the pilot. So they had to haphazardly shorten it to 10 eps mid-shoot to have enough money, and then decided it wouldn't be financially feasible to shoot season 2, since the location was so important to the setting. So after we got an excellent telling of Swamp Thing's origin with a very talented cast, a great setting, and fantastic effects...it's really frustrating to just drop it all in the trash and do it over again, even if James Mangold is involved, as his Twitter post implied. I hope at least that even if they recast human Alec Holland, they consider bringing back Derek Mears to play Swamp Thing himself. Mears seems like the nicest guy and deserves a part that big.
Make Superman an undocumented alien. And explicitly Jewish. His parents are Yemeni Jews living in New York. Repairing the world and refusing to kill is a religious observance. He constantly has to hide himself, friends, and family from people he can't fight - ICE. It makes the secret identity make sense. It gives a problem that Supes can't punch away. It returns to a lot of the themes of the earliest comics. It's a character relatable to more people than Kansas farm boy.
I hadn’t heard of Zachary Levi being whatever you said. I looked up his name and the word controversy. And apparently all he did was say he agreed that Pfizer is a danger to the world in a response to a tweet. Then I saw someone else say he’s an evangelical Christian and that that’s apparently a bad thing. I’m an atheist and I took my vaccines, and I don’t think that it’s at all necessary to cancel those who simply disagree with you on complex issues where we know there’s a lot of confusion and misinformation. I know you’re a fast talking city boy, Joe Pesci type at least as you style your voice in your videos. Maybe it doesn’t fit your whole sarcastic persona but I would like to see an intelligent and empathic guy like you maybe be a little fairer to your political opponents than calling them names.
evangelical christians tend to be incredibly bigoted and narrow-minded so it's not like the concern is unfounded. Even if Levi didn't mean to imply that vaccines were dangerous that's sure as hell how his thinly-veiled and vague tweet came across to a lot of people, either way it was bad optics and a really bone-headed move on his part.
@@jadedheartsz It’s literally illegal to fire people for their religious beliefs, with the exception of ones that happen to be bigoted. Therefore, you can’t say “he’s evangelical, and evangelicals are often bigoted.” He would need to actually be bigoted. I don’t know that he’s not, but nobody else has said he is. Same goes for political beliefs, if I’m not mistaken. Thinking large companies are dangerous is not a that controversial. Saying one in particular in dangerous, even if it’s fringe, shouldn’t come as a surprise to people.
@@silverlightsinaugust2756 nobody's talking about firing anyone genius, my god you are dense. the vague way he worded it is the same way a lot of right-wingers online word things so they they can dog-whistle and have plausible deniability, can't blame people for being suspicious of him. nowadays when you hear people bitching about Pfizer it's mostly anti-vaxxers so the caution around Levy is entirely warranted. Evangelicals are almost always bigoted, never come across one who wasn't.
@@jadedheartsz I am talking about firing him. I am talking about it being immoral. Because judging others based on nothing is immoral. Say, for example, calling a person bigoted because they’re evangelical. Even though the word “evangelical” isn’t spelled B-I-G-O-T. These things aren’t synonyms. Acting like they are isn’t very tolerant at all. One might say it’s bigoted to treat a whole religious group like a monolithic immoral one. Firing doesn’t have to be your agenda. The kind of shit you’re saying is what gets people fired. For really no reason at all. I’m against that. I’m against pre-judging people because I know what religion they identify as. I’m against extrapolating whole pieces of their personality from that religion when I should be extrapolating them from the person themself. I’m against using that information against them like this is Game Of Thrones where we get dirt on each other. I’m against using that information to try to get people fired or ruin their careers. You don’t need to talk about firing. You were “dog whistling,” whether you knew it or not. You say he’s a bigot. Other people see he needs to be fired. Criticize people for being real actual bigots. Don’t criticize them for having conspiracy theories or being Christians. That moral lesson extends to the same thing, but with firing. Fire people for being real actual bigots. Don’t fire them for having conspiracy theories or being Christians. If you want to call me names again for mildly disagreeing with you, or call evangelicals bigots as though the two are synonymous, neither of which are in good faith whatsoever, you can bring your negativity somewhere else. That’s not what the conversation was about until you made it that way.
He expressed hatred for Pfizer, but not specifically vaccines. His father died around the same time it happened and I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt
So, nobody remembers that "gods and monsters" is a big honking Frankenstein reference and was also the title of the biopic about the life of Frankenstein director James Whale? I don't think the chud brigade is going to like any of this.
I just want a good DC set of movies. I’m not into the Marvel vs DC fanboy-bull****-rivalry stuff and just want the characters I’ve loved reading and watching to get a fair shake on the big screen. It’s been a delight to see Marvel get so much of their stuff right over the last 15ish years with just a few notable stumbles, but seeing DC flail about in the mire of dark=mature fallacy has been tragic.
@@johnathonhaney8291 bro u already saw the suicide squad and peace maker. Gunn is a legend game over dc is saved. Unless they fire gunn because he made a cringe joke like everyone once has lol
Three thoughts: 1. Gunn and Safarin can only do so much. They are like a coach and general manager hired to take over a bad sports team - stuck with big contracts with bad or failing players, and few draft choices. That is why they have to burn off Shazam 2, Aquaman, and Flash - too much sunk into them to just toss into the trash can like Batgril. 2. Gunn shows his deep knowledge of DC comics lore BUT that isn't WB needs. They need a good Superman movie, a good Wonder Woman movie and somehow a way of getting a Batman movie into sync with them, before a JL super team up film. Right now if Shazam, Aquaman, and Flash bombs, at least he can say honestly, they weren't his doing. 3. Gunn took the job because they rolled a dump truck of money up to his house, he isn't made of stone! He'll make what he always wished to make before he gets booted - that is why we see Waller, Creature Commando, Booster Gold,
"They need a good Superman movie, a good Wonder Woman movie and somehow a way of getting a Batman movie into sync with them, before a JL super team up film." Hell no! That's the same tired playbook DC movies have been doing since forever. What Snyder showed is that pure iconography doesn't go as far as engaging characters, themes, and stories. Those are what Gunn is good at, and why his knowledge of lore is useful, not for its own sake. The investors and owners don't understand the value of their own IP, so somebody has to teach them, or else at least exploit that catalog to find stuff that hasn't already been done to death.
Curious if they're doing Swamp Thing if they will eventually try to introduce Thd Green, The Red and The Gray, or if doing them will hew too close to what Lanterns may one day get to do. I think that if that's the case it'll be the Swamp Thing mythos that get's pushed aside instead of the Lanterns, Multi-Color Space Cops feel more marketable than Esoteric Organic Life-forces of Different Hues... but who knows.
Surprised everyone is sleeping on the idea that The Authority being in this along with a more "back to basics" Superman means they might be gunning for an adaptation down the road of "What's So Funny About Truth Justice and the American Way", AKA "Superman VS The Elite";
The slate feels like it skips just enough steps but not too many. The previous saga went straight from one solo movie into big bombastic crossovers and team-ups. This slate skips a couple smaller world-building steps (Damian is here, weird obscure characters get a spotlight, multiple earth lanterns etc) but overall still feels like the slow introduction era.
Remember, kids at home. Even with James Gunn spearheading the DC reboot the top executive giving him "notes" is still the fascist chud who created the Honey Boo Boo show. Will it be better than the Snyderverse? It would be near impossible to be worse. Better is still an uphill battle with the Discovery C-Suite calling the shots.
Definitely the most positive reaction I've seen to this plan. Personally, I'm far from panicked, just very, very indifferent. Until I see execution, it deserves nothing less.
I'm really liking what i'm hearing so far, connect everything in a coherent way but give clear conscious space for alternative visions. I'm not sure when the term was coined within DC's IP history but I'm glad to hear the term "Gods and Monsters" which was one of my favourite animated movies of the last decade and to me why it worked is because Burnett and Timm did a great elseworlds narrative, that I felt not only deserved sequels but a series which I think what The Authority If this is in the same spirit then I'm not worried at all. The Burnett/Timm/Dini DCAU approach to storytelling and worldbuilding with a splash of Dwayne Mc Duffie in there for good measure. Phillips Joker and Reeves Batman are both solid and deserves sequels, and the Farrell Penguin series looks to be shaping up well, I could even see a Kravitz Catwoman movie or miniseries being greenlit and there is a lot of potential with that darker/grounded approach to the material. Excited the most for Tom King Supergirl, Waller and Lanterns especially Lanterns it's not Green Lanterns but Lanterns implying the entire spectrum is going to be relevant. Speaking of True Detective, I think it'll be hilarious to have Ray Fisher to be recast as well as Jon Stewart.
Be interesting to see if WildCATS, and Stormwatch get pulled in... Image did not have a ton of great comics, but the ones that were great, were pretty awesome.
Good episode. Thanks for the breakdown. Have you ever done a video on the use of color in comics. Some of it is pretty obvious - hey it is a visual medium so colors help differentiate, but why is yellow a bad color in rings, and the Mindstone in Infinity Stones.
I for one welcome a new generation of 'Comics are Weird' segments from all the lesser known stuff on the slate. The Authority sounds like something that goes nuts pretty quickly.
It started off on pretty solid ground during the Warren Ellis run, then took a hard left turn into edgelord territory when Mark Millar was handed writing duties. It was the latter incarnation that was the inspiration for The Elite in "Whats so funny about Truth, Justice, and the American Way?" and "Superman vs The Elite."
Authority is at it's best when written by Ellis and Abnett. Miller's work on the series is what "American Idiot" is to Green Day's discography.
@@legomaniac213 nah Millar did a great job, the term "edgelord" is getting massively overused for "anything that's dark"
@@jadedheartsz Millar was a highlight of the original run for me. The arc with The Americans is some of the most fun you can have with early 2000s comics
@@jadedheartsz Ellis managed to do an entire brilliant run of Authority without involving the American government in any way. Millar got handed the reins and _immediately_ had to get his fixation on US politics in there.
Have you ever hung out with a guy who has strong opinions on politics, and just _won't shut up?_ And you _agree_ with him about everything he's saying, and he _knows_ you agree with him, but he just keeps talking, because he doesn't _have_ anything else interesting to say? That's Millar. Never have I been more annoyed by an argument in favor of a position I already agree with. His work is dark, and puerile, and thinks it's sophisticated. That's what makes it edgelord writing.
Bob, I will never forget when you once described Swamp Thing as "Woke vegan goth Hulk". I don't know about you all, but that's a movie I'd pay to see.
No thanks. We don't need anymore woke crap.
Can we please have a Superman movie that doesn't leave audiences feeling depressed this time?
@Justin Riley And for pete's sake, can we bring back the iconic John Williams theme??? No disrespect to Zimmer, but go back and watch the teaser for Superman Returns and tell me that the music (not the film itself) doesn't stir the emotions!!!
And not be another origins story
I would like a Superman movie where he's married with Lois, they're happy and they have a family, it's not perfect but they're working on it- I'm talking about Superman and Lois, aren't I?
Man of Steel was probably the best of the DCEU aside from The Suicide Squad. That movie is far from perfect but it's still pretty cool.
Last time they tried to push a Christ Narrative to emphasize his alien god-like nature combined with a misguided Watchmen style deconstruction.
He's just a regular guy from Kansas who thinks he'd be an incredible dick if he didn't try to help other people. He's not some inhuman deity looming over humans whose only moments of interaction with any human not named Lois Lane seems to be one of deep ennui and Weltschmerz, he's the kind of guy who in real life would end up being an EMT a fireman or find ways to make the world better.
I'm all for more Green Lantern content. You can make so many movies and shows out of just that part of the universe, it's insane.
Gonna need to rewatch this again once Creature Commandos premieres this year...
Forgive me for commenting before watching the whole video.
What I find really fascinating about all of this is what Pacemaker revealed about James Gunn's state of mind. Both the text and subtext was dripping with hatred of white supremacists, and I loved it.
What's interesting about this is that it kind of puts him in the same head space as the people who created the superhero genre during the Golden age. Most of the writers and artists were Jewish sons of immigrants who were trying to process what was going on in Germany.
I think this could get interesting.
The interesting thing about the Authority is that if it's all the same world, it sets up an inevitable collision course between them and the more idealistic Superman. The Elite in Superman vs the Elite (which in turn was based on the comic Superman #775) was supposed to be a pastiche of the Authority. So it could be that down the line, if this all works out, we could get a live action version of that story.
Yes. First off, yes, I thought the Elite were a version of the Authority. Now, the one thing I really like with the Authority is that they try an tackle real-world issues, not just standard super-villains. I'm very interested to see if DC is willing to let their Authority go after real-world stuff like corporations or capitalism (our world's super-villain). There. I said it.
I do still that Elite should be separate and maybe be inspired by Authority, because Elite based mostly on Mark Miller era which lacks complexity og Warren Elis run which started it.
My immediate assumption was that they were going to blend the Elite and Authority to use them in the Superman movie
I'm with Linkara in that I think The Authority should be kept separate from the other D.C. stuff, i'm guessing it's probably going to be an Elseworlds films.
I've just read Superman & The Authority, where Superman is losing his powers, and recruits the Authority as antiheroes who he thinks all have the potential to become real heroes. Could be an angle they're thinking of?
This kind of coverage is so refreshing with all the "Nerdrotic" type channels that ate about that just immediately shit on everything
Standing up and applauding for "They're not doing Dick, they're not doing Jason, they're not doing Tim, they're not doing Stephanie, Spoiler..."
The authority is going to be awesome. For him to even think of using it, it's already a deep as hell cut.
The one Waller storyline they should adapt is hell to pay. I mean the Suicide Squad having to deal with supernatural bs to get a literall "get out of Hell"-card for their boss, works on so many levels.
Does that involve Constantine? A Constantine x Waller road trip to hell movie would be astounding
Brave and the Bold is going to have Bruce and Damian, so that's interesting. Though I hope we'll see some other Batfamily cameos. Like Alfred gets a call from Dick, who's doing his own thing, Tim is solving an international mystery, Stephanie and Jason are laughing because haha Bruce has to deal with Little D, Cassie is like "I love you but I gotta help out with this other thing off screen" and you know what? Duke is there but he's at summer camp.
Gunn and Safran confirmed that the Bat-Family will be present in the film. Personally, I hope that Jason is still dead, because I wan to see Under The Red Hood adapted to the big screen.
@@antoniobudelecan6077 That would be nice (Under the red hood the animated movie is a favorite batman movie) but isn't that before Damian comes into the picture?
Then again, Bruce will have to deal with Damian and Jason 😈
I was thinking it would make sense to have Nightwing be a supporting character, contrast the original Robin (and the one audiences have a point of reference for) with the new one.
Oh you'll get cameos, From every single batman villain at the same time.
That last Batman film had 3 villains, and Catwoman, and ten secondary characters...no wonder he couldn't solve a single crime, he was too busy talking to everyone
And then Bane kills Alfred in the sequel.
"They're gonna integrate the animated stuff with the live action stuff"
They actually already did that with the Arrowverse.
Any other RRR fans here? If we want a fully sincere Superman movie, we need to get SS Rajamouli directing this thing
Batman and Damien Wayne.... So it's going to be Iroh and Zuko as super-heroes... *YES* !
This is the sort of stuff i love from movie bob. What a lovely episode, especially for a rushed one.x
I’m intrigued by the idea of animated and live action shared universe. Assuming the films actually work, that could be great, but the DC animated stuff has been better by and large so I don’t want it to get dragged down
You are ROCKING that robe, dude. Someone buy this man a fez.
You got me excited for this! Honestly, WB should be paying you, not making you work three times as hard to put this stuff out.
They could also use Swamp Thing to bring in the whole Green/Red Wars, which'll also include Animal Man and Vixen!
If they adapt Rotworld I’d be so happy.
OOOh. Vixen. Yeah.
I am honestly just bummed about the Damian news with him being the first Robin. Dick Grayson is my favorite superhero, and in the comics he is the most important mentor figure in Damians life and I am so tired of adaptions downplaying that dynamic. It was Dick Grayson who took in Damian as his Robin when Bruce Wayne was thought to be dead and he was filling in as Batman, doing the same thing Bruce did for him when he was a helpless orphan and helping set Damian towards the right path. Dick is a important figure in Damians life, even more so than Bruce. And sure we can lighten up Batman to make him fill a similar role as Dick, but the found family aspect is lost.
It's confirmed that the Bat-Family will be present in The Brave and The Bold. Dick might show up as Nightwing.
Yeah, but Damian still kinda sucks.
Dick has been the Robin of cinema for like 60 years...
The character is 84 years old.
They have other options.
@@bazzfromthebackground3696 sure. But nobody wants a Jason Todd movie
I hope grayson gets introduced only to get popped in the face like that one dooder from THE suicide squad lolz
One thing I want carried over from the 2011 Green Lantern movie is Mark Strong as Sinestro.
Agreed, give him more to work with, and he'll spin gold (heh heh!) with it.
While being double cast isn't as much stringent as it used to be, he was already Dr. Sivana, & could make a reappearance in future Shazam sequels if that happens.
Nahhh he's always in stuff that sux lol
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 Shazam did not suck.
It still sucks we are not getting the Batgirl movie.
If we're finally getting a Wildstorm property on film, I really hope we see WildCATS at some point ...
19:23 Marvel doesn't have someone like The Authority? Didn't you do a few videos about The Squadron Supreme/Sinister?
I’ve wanted a slightly revised Clark Kent to go deeper on the American immigrant angle with a particular twist.
Who are farm workers in 21st Century America?
Immigrants.
What makes Clark different from Bruce?
Family
Go from Martha to Marta, and let Clark have aunts and uncles who can impart life lessons and help him navigate a life of being an insider/outsider in America.
So many opportunities for good story telling.
Also I want John Leguizamo as Superman’s Tio.
Going straight to Damian is a bummer but i hope that means that the rest of the family is around and for more than just cameos or references.
My personal hope is for Cassandra Cain, my favourite member of the Batfamily.
Okay, I had no idea the Authority had been integrated into the DC universe. I've read some of it from before that - it's... pretty rough. Almost like torture porn for superheroes in spots.
They had a big role in the main Superman book just last year which makes me wonder if that idea came from Gunn to help catch up modern audiences with the concept.
19:17 - Literally 'Squadron Supreme'.
This is all good and all. But I will wait until I see how Gunn handles the big executives wigs playing interference once any of this goes into production.
Judging from how much free reign he was given in Suicide Squad and Peacemaker, it's safe to say WBD will stay hands off.
Can't wait for more content from you on the matter; love Gunn, love your work, and yoi have a knack for getting these right
The important part is that the Snyderverse is officially dead.
Thank God.
True. The Snyder Cult, on the other hand, is still alive and well and still obnoxious, unfortunately.
we'll see
Yeah. People are like. "They haven't fired this particular person yet!" and I'm like. They haven't released the final movie with that person yet. They aren't going to fire them until after they have done the promo work for said movie at the very least.
Green Lantern falls into the Lensman end of space opera, and the public mind is already infected with Jedi for that.... It'll be uphill, is what I'm saying.
He said that he wants the characters to be consistent throughout film and animation. I’m curious to see how he’s going to make Brave and the Bold work. Where are they going to find a kid who can consistently play him in multiple films? In the years it takes between movies are made, the kid could have grown well through puberty. Thus, between two movies that might be months apart in-universe, Damian will have grown and aged several years. I wonder who they’ll get and how they’ll square that circle.
Euphoria had this very issue. The actor playing Ashtray was a young kid during Season 1, yet despite season 2 only being a few months after, his actor is very noticably older. Maybe for Damian, they'll have him age with everyone else.
They’ll probably luck out and Spiderman that shit.
What happened with Zachary Levi?
Regarding the Lanterns show, This would be a good way to introduce the other Lanterns who aren't green, The Red Lanterns would be an interesting one to see in live action, Because one of its main members is a Cat name Dex-Starr, He's a fan favorite characters, and you know James Gunn is really good with characters who are animals.
Honestly, to me this whole thing just reeks of "Let's throw everything we possibly can at the wall and hope to god that enough of it sticks to make into a franchise."
Which is the opposite of a plan.
Pshhh good thing next to no one feels the way you do lol.
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 The feelings I keep getting on this are mixed with the knowledge of who Gunn answers to. Ergo, I need proof before I will be anywhere close to excited.
I wish people would stop saying The Authority are like The Seven from The Boys. The Authority are super powered anti-heroes, like an X-Men team of all Wolverines. Not so different from certain incarnations of X-Force, in fact. They are vicious and uncompromising, but they are still focused on saving lives and protecting the planet. The Seven are just a bunch of psychopaths and narcissists who pretend to be superheroes for public consumption. Not a one of them actually cares about helping people.
Given what he's done with the Guardians of the Galaxy, I'm eager to see how he handles DC properties 😊
Man seeing those Damian clips reminded how much I really liked Damian and Raven’s relationship in the animated movies and it’s a real shame that that ended in yet ANOTHER flashpoint after the Earth got screwed up.
I hated that relationship because at least in Teen Titans, you got to see Raven organically connect to others. Plus they tried to make Damien the star of every single one of his appearances, while making Nightwing look like a joke...bad characterizations
@@shindean I get that criticism. Sometimes Damian did pull some asspulls, but I thought Dick was fine.
seeing them FINALLY make the lantern corps as a live action movie after all this time would be really good. feels like they are terrified to even touch the IP after that horrible CGI suit.
Wow, The Authority! Love them, excited to see if they can do it.
I want a really well executed Blackest Night/Brightest Day
Me: "What's with this robe?"
Me five minutes later: "I am so here for this robe. I hope he keeps it for future videos."
Great video. Keep em up!
Is that a robe? I thought it was a smoking jacket (or a 70's era blazer). Either way, he makes it work.
They make "The Authority" - may I dare to hope that they will adapt ”Kev” ? That would be fun...
For a brief moment, I imagined Damon Waynans in Son of the Bat. How would Batman explain how his oldest son is a middle age Black comedian to Commisioner Gordon? It was a funny thought at least.
I think I remember he was considered for that role years ago. Apparently that was for Batman Returns.
21:00 This is a deal breaker. DC has always had a "We want Marvel's Phase 2: Avengers and crazy shit we just throw at the wall," and they've ALWAYS been too lazy to put in the actual work. If the first Batman project in your cinematic universe is "Robin: Part 4," you're goddamned insane. I "get" that maybe you don't want to do another Batman origin. Good news! You can do a Robin Origin and crib entirely from BTAS; problem solved. And then you can do a Talia/League of Assassins/Shadows/whatever marketing says is okay movie. Then you do a DIFFERENT Movie. Then, N years later, you introduce a 10 year old son of Batman. Conceived, not cloned. You got to build the foundation.
Also I think it's great that they're keeping an Elseworld section for other versions of their DC stuff where they can get all weird, arty or do whatever while they have the main inter-connected main story on the other side. That sounds fun and come to think of it, I'm not sure if Marvel is doing or considered. Maybe that could lead to some changes and maybe them making an official separate label at Hulu or something for anything a little more intense they don't or can't have under their Disney+ brand. Kind of like how Disney used to have Touchstone. Not sure if they see the profit or can do it, but I hope they consider it. And well, DC proves it can be done first and Marvel can attempt to do their own version on it as well.
As far as Swamp Thing goes? I just hope that the cast of that TV show is given priority for casting.
Cancelling that (rather good) series _before it even aired_ was such a missed opportunity.
What the hell did Zachary Levi do?
I'm loving how Bob mispronounces everbody's names to show his discontent.
WB has to stop announcing future film slates! remember all the films announced in the first wave of the snyderverse? and the Flash what ever version its on now is only releasing this year.
Honestly until trailers are up all these films are at best 'maybe they will happen'.
Hear me out: Nathan Fillion as Booster Gold
Awaiting an Authority video. That ought to be something else
Thing is Marvel has they versions of darker superhero teams but both are alternative universe. You have Squadron Supreme which is basically they take on Justice League in same vein as Snyder's version and then there is Ultimates that's dark alternative universe version of Avengers from Ultimate universe.
Was thinking the same thing. Squadron Supreme was way ahead of the curve.
@@robwhelehan And way underappreciated still. Even with the dated dialogue, the questions Squadron Supreme grappled with have yet to be equalled.
The Ellis/Hitch run of Authority are _my peeps._ They were then subsequently fucked up and poorly written by any number of writers. If they can somehow bottle the lightning that was that first run of the comic and put it on screen - shit, the world isn't ready. That book was fucking _custom made_ to be a megablockbuster.
18:20 yes please give us a video on The Authority
I’m sorry, while The Authority would make a great film, I really don’t see t happening. Eventually the suits are going to pick up the books and just say “NOPE”
it'll happen but it'll mostly likely be an elseworlds story as IMO The Authority never really worked when they tried to integrate it with the rest of the DC universe.
Almost all of this sounds good to me. If they want to do Lanterns with both JS and HJ as space cops that should work.
Booster Gold has always been one of the few DC stories I’ve consistently liked, and the tech to make a good, presentable film of him has been available for a while now. I’d love to see an inverse Buck Rogers movie.
Not sure how well Supes and WW fit into this mythos, but like everyone else, I’ll watch these and I’ll like them until I don’t. 😊
My only question is where does Bob get these wonderful suits?
I want a leopard print suit myself!
Trying to set up Brightest Day right from the get go seems perilously ambitious. If they can pull it off, then damn... But like that's like starting with Everest.
10:30 I'm happy Bob understands this.
3:49 So what's the deal with Zachary Levi?
and if we're getting The Authority, that could line up to give us a Planetary series, which would rule.
You spent all of the swamp thing segment talking about green lantern 😂
Are you saying Lantern Corp Batteries are the new infinity stones?
As someone who's currently marathoning all of the Batman theatrical releases, I'm hype for a new Batman and Damien. I hope we reclaim some of the fun of the pre-christopher Nolan stuff.
3:53 wait I don't know what happened.
Still waiting for the years long campaign by the Snydercult to get that Batgirl released. Because artists rights, right? All the same reasons, right? 😏😏😏
I hope they back Matt Ryan as John Constantine.
One of the good things about the DC shakeup is that I'm really hoping the Keanu constantine movie got cut. Love Keanu but there is no better constantine in my eyes than Matt Ryan and the constantine brand feels like a perfect fit for how james gunn does his thing. There is even quite a bit of crossover between Swamp Thing and Constantine so I'm crossing my fingers.
I would love some sort of adaptation of the "American Gothic" storyline.
I say make this a multiverse property. Two Lucifers , Gwendoline Christie and Peter Stormare, show up and try and recruit Lucifer Tom Ellis into a cabal to finally take down heaven. When he refuses they try and kill him so he flees and seeks out Matt Ryan's John Constantine for help. At the same time Jenna Coleman's Johanna Constantine shows up saying they need to find Keanu's John. He is off fighting demons in some other dimension and knows the location of some McGuffin that could save the day. I mean how fun would it be to see those two evil Lucifers chew scenery together, while the Ryan/Coleman/Ellis trio banter as Keanu tries to keep them focused on anything other than sex.
For the Green Lantern show, the promo image they used was from the Earth 1 Green Lantern series... where Hal was Green and John was Yellow. Maybe possibly why they're calling it 'Lanterns'?
I've never heard of The Authority. Thanks for your description clarifying it as kind of being a The Boys type series. I'm a little curious about that. Not particularly sold on it sans a trailer.
It's like The Boys in having the transgressiveness/ultra violence; I think of it more as being Justice League but everybody is absurdly OP. Like, their ship can open portals from anywhere to anywhere. The Engineer has nanobots for blood and can make any device out of them. The Shaman can do... pretty much anything, it seems? But is spaced out most of the time.
@@LaurieCheers The Authority is actually far more idealistic than The Boys, which is an interesting contrast with the violent moments. It's pretty complex in how it deals with its archetypes, as they are more powerful and more proactive than a Justice League, but also more flawed and maladjusted. People with the power of Gods who are trying to do their best, but are messed up and fallible in some relatable ways.
Creature Commandos idea: Rick Flag gets made into a modern Frankenstein, slowly realizing he's been resurrected into a new continuity, basically becoming the psycho pirate of the new DC movies
15:19
huh, no green in the title. That was a good call out point. completely overlooked that. that does sound odd.
My ONLY issue with the slate is Swamp Thing, and not because I don't want a Swamp Thing movie, I DESPERATELY want a Swamp Thing movie. But I heard the word "origin" thrown around...and that means we're sweeping aside the excellent Swamp Thing TV series. I know, clean slate, rebuild the DC universe from the ground up here. But that show wasn't canceled because it wasn't good or popular, it was canceled because of budgetary mistakes. The company wrote the budget for a 13 episode season under the knowledge they'd get a rebate from the town they were shooting in...only to find out after production was already underway that they were only getting that rebate for the pilot. So they had to haphazardly shorten it to 10 eps mid-shoot to have enough money, and then decided it wouldn't be financially feasible to shoot season 2, since the location was so important to the setting.
So after we got an excellent telling of Swamp Thing's origin with a very talented cast, a great setting, and fantastic effects...it's really frustrating to just drop it all in the trash and do it over again, even if James Mangold is involved, as his Twitter post implied. I hope at least that even if they recast human Alec Holland, they consider bringing back Derek Mears to play Swamp Thing himself. Mears seems like the nicest guy and deserves a part that big.
Make Superman an undocumented alien. And explicitly Jewish. His parents are Yemeni Jews living in New York. Repairing the world and refusing to kill is a religious observance. He constantly has to hide himself, friends, and family from people he can't fight - ICE. It makes the secret identity make sense. It gives a problem that Supes can't punch away. It returns to a lot of the themes of the earliest comics. It's a character relatable to more people than Kansas farm boy.
I hadn’t heard of Zachary Levi being whatever you said. I looked up his name and the word controversy. And apparently all he did was say he agreed that Pfizer is a danger to the world in a response to a tweet. Then I saw someone else say he’s an evangelical Christian and that that’s apparently a bad thing.
I’m an atheist and I took my vaccines, and I don’t think that it’s at all necessary to cancel those who simply disagree with you on complex issues where we know there’s a lot of confusion and misinformation. I know you’re a fast talking city boy, Joe Pesci type at least as you style your voice in your videos. Maybe it doesn’t fit your whole sarcastic persona but I would like to see an intelligent and empathic guy like you maybe be a little fairer to your political opponents than calling them names.
evangelical christians tend to be incredibly bigoted and narrow-minded so it's not like the concern is unfounded. Even if Levi didn't mean to imply that vaccines were dangerous that's sure as hell how his thinly-veiled and vague tweet came across to a lot of people, either way it was bad optics and a really bone-headed move on his part.
@@jadedheartsz It’s literally illegal to fire people for their religious beliefs, with the exception of ones that happen to be bigoted. Therefore, you can’t say “he’s evangelical, and evangelicals are often bigoted.” He would need to actually be bigoted. I don’t know that he’s not, but nobody else has said he is. Same goes for political beliefs, if I’m not mistaken. Thinking large companies are dangerous is not a that controversial. Saying one in particular in dangerous, even if it’s fringe, shouldn’t come as a surprise to people.
@@silverlightsinaugust2756 nobody's talking about firing anyone genius, my god you are dense.
the vague way he worded it is the same way a lot of right-wingers online word things so they they can dog-whistle and have plausible deniability, can't blame people for being suspicious of him.
nowadays when you hear people bitching about Pfizer it's mostly anti-vaxxers so the caution around Levy is entirely warranted.
Evangelicals are almost always bigoted, never come across one who wasn't.
@@jadedheartsz I am talking about firing him. I am talking about it being immoral. Because judging others based on nothing is immoral. Say, for example, calling a person bigoted because they’re evangelical. Even though the word “evangelical” isn’t spelled B-I-G-O-T. These things aren’t synonyms. Acting like they are isn’t very tolerant at all. One might say it’s bigoted to treat a whole religious group like a monolithic immoral one.
Firing doesn’t have to be your agenda. The kind of shit you’re saying is what gets people fired. For really no reason at all. I’m against that. I’m against pre-judging people because I know what religion they identify as. I’m against extrapolating whole pieces of their personality from that religion when I should be extrapolating them from the person themself. I’m against using that information against them like this is Game Of Thrones where we get dirt on each other. I’m against using that information to try to get people fired or ruin their careers.
You don’t need to talk about firing. You were “dog whistling,” whether you knew it or not. You say he’s a bigot. Other people see he needs to be fired. Criticize people for being real actual bigots. Don’t criticize them for having conspiracy theories or being Christians.
That moral lesson extends to the same thing, but with firing. Fire people for being real actual bigots. Don’t fire them for having conspiracy theories or being Christians. If you want to call me names again for mildly disagreeing with you, or call evangelicals bigots as though the two are synonymous, neither of which are in good faith whatsoever, you can bring your negativity somewhere else. That’s not what the conversation was about until you made it that way.
Ah finally someone on TH-cam who is willing to call out the previous regime BS and everything that has come along with it.
huh. Who made the call to have Damian Wayne of all people voiced by Aang?
Dammit, now I'm gonna have to google what the hell Zachary Levy did and get depressed, aren't I?
He expressed hatred for Pfizer, but not specifically vaccines. His father died around the same time it happened and I’m giving him the benefit of the doubt
@@mistercard3599 Oh, okay. So "Not at all" then. :3
So, nobody remembers that "gods and monsters" is a big honking Frankenstein reference and was also the title of the biopic about the life of Frankenstein director James Whale?
I don't think the chud brigade is going to like any of this.
C'mon, I remember that! But then I'm an old school Universal Monsters fan.
I just want a good DC set of movies. I’m not into the Marvel vs DC fanboy-bull****-rivalry stuff and just want the characters I’ve loved reading and watching to get a fair shake on the big screen. It’s been a delight to see Marvel get so much of their stuff right over the last 15ish years with just a few notable stumbles, but seeing DC flail about in the mire of dark=mature fallacy has been tragic.
I want that too. But I have doubts that this is it until I see proof.
Right there with you.
@@johnathonhaney8291 bro u already saw the suicide squad and peace maker. Gunn is a legend game over dc is saved.
Unless they fire gunn because he made a cringe joke like everyone once has lol
@@soyborne.bornmadeandundone1342 It's not JUST him in the mix. Zaslav, I do not trust to keep from pulling an Ike Perlmutter/Avi Arad.
Three thoughts:
1. Gunn and Safarin can only do so much. They are like a coach and general manager hired to take over a bad sports team - stuck with big contracts with bad or failing players, and few draft choices. That is why they have to burn off Shazam 2, Aquaman, and Flash - too much sunk into them to just toss into the trash can like Batgril.
2. Gunn shows his deep knowledge of DC comics lore BUT that isn't WB needs. They need a good Superman movie, a good Wonder Woman movie and somehow a way of getting a Batman movie into sync with them, before a JL super team up film. Right now if Shazam, Aquaman, and Flash bombs, at least he can say honestly, they weren't his doing.
3. Gunn took the job because they rolled a dump truck of money up to his house, he isn't made of stone! He'll make what he always wished to make before he gets booted - that is why we see Waller, Creature Commando, Booster Gold,
"They need a good Superman movie, a good Wonder Woman movie and somehow a way of getting a Batman movie into sync with them, before a JL super team up film."
Hell no! That's the same tired playbook DC movies have been doing since forever. What Snyder showed is that pure iconography doesn't go as far as engaging characters, themes, and stories. Those are what Gunn is good at, and why his knowledge of lore is useful, not for its own sake. The investors and owners don't understand the value of their own IP, so somebody has to teach them, or else at least exploit that catalog to find stuff that hasn't already been done to death.
Curious if they're doing Swamp Thing if they will eventually try to introduce Thd Green, The Red and The Gray, or if doing them will hew too close to what Lanterns may one day get to do. I think that if that's the case it'll be the Swamp Thing mythos that get's pushed aside instead of the Lanterns, Multi-Color Space Cops feel more marketable than Esoteric Organic Life-forces of Different Hues... but who knows.
Surprised everyone is sleeping on the idea that The Authority being in this along with a more "back to basics" Superman means they might be gunning for an adaptation down the road of "What's So Funny About Truth Justice and the American Way", AKA "Superman VS The Elite";
The Elite were more the opposite of The Authority.
Do you think they can do Planetary....And Supergirl is basically True Grit, so it has to be Hailee Steinfeld
No, Planetary is creator-owned and only MILDLY attached to the Wildstorm universe.
love bob's thoughts on this and in general
16:50 I would pay all the money to see a movie with the gonads to go all-in on the neon colored forces duking it out, like this art.
The slate feels like it skips just enough steps but not too many. The previous saga went straight from one solo movie into big bombastic crossovers and team-ups. This slate skips a couple smaller world-building steps (Damian is here, weird obscure characters get a spotlight, multiple earth lanterns etc) but overall still feels like the slow introduction era.
Execution will remain key. Plan all you want but if you got lousy execution, it don't matter.
Remember, kids at home. Even with James Gunn spearheading the DC reboot the top executive giving him "notes" is still the fascist chud who created the Honey Boo Boo show.
Will it be better than the Snyderverse? It would be near impossible to be worse. Better is still an uphill battle with the Discovery C-Suite calling the shots.
Another thing about Lanterns is they can get it in before Nova Corps
It was nice with a positive take on James Gunns universe, seems like 2/3 of the internet is panicking... so thanks Bob ❤️
Definitely the most positive reaction I've seen to this plan. Personally, I'm far from panicked, just very, very indifferent. Until I see execution, it deserves nothing less.
I'm really liking what i'm hearing so far, connect everything in a coherent way but give clear conscious space for alternative visions.
I'm not sure when the term was coined within DC's IP history but I'm glad to hear the term "Gods and Monsters" which was one of my favourite animated movies of the last decade and to me why it worked is because Burnett and Timm did a great elseworlds narrative, that I felt not only deserved sequels but a series which I think what The Authority
If this is in the same spirit then I'm not worried at all. The Burnett/Timm/Dini DCAU approach to storytelling and worldbuilding with a splash of Dwayne Mc Duffie in there for good measure.
Phillips Joker and Reeves Batman are both solid and deserves sequels, and the Farrell Penguin series looks to be shaping up well, I could even see a Kravitz Catwoman movie or miniseries being greenlit and there is a lot of potential with that darker/grounded approach to the material.
Excited the most for Tom King Supergirl, Waller and Lanterns especially Lanterns it's not Green Lanterns but Lanterns implying the entire spectrum is going to be relevant.
Speaking of True Detective, I think it'll be hilarious to have Ray Fisher to be recast as well as Jon Stewart.
Be interesting to see if WildCATS, and Stormwatch get pulled in... Image did not have a ton of great comics, but the ones that were great, were pretty awesome.
thanks for the reuploads
Robert, sir do what ever you want. You're killing it!
Dear WB, MovieBob will keep posting it and we will keep watching it so quit with the strikes already.
Good episode. Thanks for the breakdown.
Have you ever done a video on the use of color in comics. Some of it is pretty obvious - hey it is a visual medium so colors help differentiate, but why is yellow a bad color in rings, and the Mindstone in Infinity Stones.
I don't know if that's a leopard print smoking jacket or robe, but I'm here for it