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The final Star Trek film with all the original cast and what a send off this film is! I had such a good time with the Klingon politics, the murder mystery, and of course seeing everyone one last time was epic. The score for this film was incredible and those final moments left me in tears.
Thanks for watching! Have a great day! :)
The plot of this film is really a commentary on the fall of the Soviet Union, starting with the explosion of Praxis, a stand-in for the Chernobyl nuclear disaster of 1986.
Some trivia: the speech by the prison warden at the beginning of the Rura Penthe scene is lifted almost word for word from a similar speech in The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957). David Warner, who played Chancellor Gorkon, recently died. He was also in Star Trek V, playing another character, and played Jack the Ripper in Nicholas Meyer's first film, Time After Time (1979). The Klingon blood was originally red, but changed to fuscha/pink to avoid an R rating. The Sherlock Holmes references were due to Nicholas Meyer's love of the character: he himself wrote a Holmes novel, authorized by the Conan Doyle estate, called "The Seven Per Cent Solution".
Consider reacting to the Nicholas Meyer written 1976 movie "The-Seven-Per-Cent Solution" where Sherlock Holmes meets Sigmund Freud.
The Klingon Attorney for Kirk is played by the actor who plays the Klingon Worf in The Next Generation. This is supposed to be an ancestor.
Some of the original cast of Star Trek show up in some of the Star Trek next generation movies.
The Klingons and the Federation were kinda considered parrallels to the Soviet Union and the US in the show. So, this was playing off of the break-up of the Soviet Union around the same time.
As a trek fan for 40 years can I say it’s been a privilege to see you enjoy the movies the way I have. And you welling up at the end of VI is a just and true reaction. This is MY fave of all the movies too.
The line "...Outlived our usefulness..." didn't resonate in my teens but it gave me teary eyes later in life.
Amazing how we can see these films one way in our teens and then another way YEARS later.
@@tulinfirenze1990 Indeed
Especially when we see that Spock (& Nimoy) still had so much more to do with the universe after this.
I’ve never seen Spock so passionate as he was in this movie. The way he slapped the phaser out of Valeris’ hand 😂
The waver in his voice as he says Valeris doesn’t know where the peace conference is as well, you can hear the torment in his voice, considering what he basically just did to Valeris’ mind
This doesn't have to be your last encounter with the original crew. You still can watch some of the best episodes from the original show. :)
i second that!
yes, such as City on the Edge of Forever (which I've somehow never actually seen) and
THE TROUBLE WITH TRIBBLES.
@@highstimulation2497 Wait, you know the episode, so you know how good it is. It was made 50+ years ago and you haven't seen it? I hope you don't call yourself a fan. 😁 There are other good episodes, The Devil in The Dark, Tomorrow is Yesterday etc. It's funny, I have been able to find just about any movie or show, free, except Star Trek. They have a tight reign.
@@highstimulation2497void Spock’s Brain at all costs.
After 31 years this is still one of the best conclusions to a film series. It's been a blast seeing your reactions to the classic Trek films.
And holds a legacy in modern films too.
As whilst it’s entirely deserved of themselves, some involved in the making have stated that the signature reel at the end of ENDGAME was considered inspired by this films send off.
“…a murder mystery in space with political intrigue.” You said it perfect.
The undiscovered country is death (in Hamlet). Since this movie is the final adventure of the original crew it serves a much deeper meaning.
NIcholas Meyer wanted the 'The Undiscovered Country' to be the title for Star Trek II, but he was overruled by the studio, who felt that the title should have Khan in it. When he came back to direct VI, he was able to use the title.
When I saw this in Theaters and it ended with cast signatures I too clapped and cried. It was like saying bye to family.
Yeah, the entire theater was clapping at the first screening I went to. I ended up seeing the movie 11 times in the theaters, and I was blown away when the VHS release had scenes that were not in the theatrical version.
Yep - it was EXTREMELY emotional, knowing we were saying goodbye. I LOVED the signoffs and that beautiful music.
Originally, the Vulcan lady was supposed to be Saavik, that you saw in the second and third movie and briefly in the fourth. The producers changed their minds because they realized how beloved was Saavik in the fandom, and that the fans would not accept that she was a traitor, and thus created the character of Valeris.
My only beef was the weird name they gave her. That is not in any way a Vulcan name.
The weirdest part was it was one of the last "putting his foot down" decisions Gene Roddenberry made regarding the content or characters, which was weird because he didn't create Saavik, Meyer did.
It would have been a lot more impactful if I was Saavik, it also would have made the villains motives more morally ambiguous than the black-white good-evil that we got in the movie
Didn’t know that! Yeah, I would have been royally pissed. Bad enough that the actress changed (they were both great, but I was a big Kirstie fan).
It would've made a lot more sense had they kept the stuff with her and David (pretty much all that remains of the story of them hooking up is how close they're standing to each other at the end of WoK, and the novelization). Without that aspect it really would have felt out of nowhere. I can totally buy the Saavik of the novelizations could have done that. But without, it would have felt like they were just trying to be shocking.
Fun note: Colonel Worv, who defended Kirk & McCoy, is A) played by the same actor as Lt. Worf on Next Generation, & B) Lt. Worf's paternal grandfather!
Yes, Ollie, there's a Klingon main character on ST:TNG. He's on the Bridge of the Enterprise-D, in Starfleet uniform!
He is also in Deep Space 9. Which with Ollies like of the political intrigue, action, and character arcs is IMO a MUST watch for Ollie.
MICHAEL corn also voiced a character in the game KLINGON ACADEMY set a couple of years before this, as a drill instructor/flight coordinator, in his first address he states
“Do not confuse me with my famous brother colonel worf, I am not hear to speak for you or defend you”
In that one line showing just how big works family was, but also allowing the actor to do such amazing voice work without issues
Whilst Colonel Worf gets some exploration, in both the movie novelization, and in the novel Lost Era: The Art of the Impossible, too. As does Mogh, Worf's dad.
When this was released, The Next Generation was already in its fifth season. The Klingons and the Federation have been at peace. A Klingon regular character in that series was said to have grown up on Khitomer, so when this came out, a Star Trek fan would recognize Camp Khitomer’s name. The actor who played that Klingon makes a cameo here as the defense attorney, presumably a distant relative.
Paternal grandfather specifically, it’s a common thing in klingon families that the firstborn son be given the name of the fathers father as a token of respect.
Star Trek 6 was part of the franchise's 25th anniversary celebration and a transition from the original series cast to The Next Generation, which had earned their movie stripes by shooting seven full seasons of TV episodes. Generations,which still features Kirk, Chekhov and Scotty, completed the transition...
Generations was a big disappointment in my opinion huge missed opportunity.
@@demonofelru3214 Honestly, Generations is not that bad of an odd-numbered Star Trek movie. The interaction between Kirk and Picard was great and I hate to say this, but I like the stuff they did with Data. And what they did with the Enterprise-D was a tough pill to swallow, but I think it was effectively done. My only problem with the movie (and it's a big one unfortunately) was that the villain was well, boring.
@@SBaby It definitely had it moments I will give it that but I just feel the movie was a giant missed opportunity. And yes t he villain wasn't good. Good actor but poorly written.
The teaser trailer for Star Trek 6 is one of my favourite trailers of all time, and it doesn't even have any footage from the movie.
Your emotional reaction to the signatures actually made me cry, remembering being a 21 year old sitting in the theater, bawling my eyes out, saying goodbye to my friends.
The part that makes it one of my favorites is it ends with a message of history is not over, and we can make better choices. How incredibly Star Trek is that?
And it's STILL giving us that message.
The use of Kirk’s middle name was the very first time in 30 years that we were told what the ‘T’ in ‘James T. Kirk’ stood for. Historic moment.
Really? I knew it from the novelisation of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, years earlier. I hadn't been very into Star Trek before then, so I had no idea if it had been revealed then.
Curiously, there is a paralell with Star Wars here. There, too, the novelisation of the very first movie revealed the name of a character who wasn't named in the movies until many years later: The Emperor. The original trilogy never mentioned his name. It took the prequels to reveal that his name was Palpatine, but in the novels it had been known from the beginning.
And *both* novelisations were written by Alan Dean Foster. Except that in the case of the original Star Wars, it was ghostwritten for George Lucas.
I love the ending to this. From Spock's "go to hell" line, to Kirk setting a course of second star to right and straight on till morning with the theme playing. When I saw this in the cinema it really did create a feeling of something that would never grow old, and 31 years later it still ranks in most people's top 2 Star Trek films.
The Rura Penthe exterior scenes (after they escape the prison) were filmed on the Knik Glacier at Chugach State Park, Alaska.
The floating blood was originally intended to be red, but in order to avoid a PG-13 or even an R rating they had to change it to pink. The canon was adapted to say that Klingons have pink blood.
No wonder Klingons have strong stomachs that can tolerate eating stuff like Gagh, they literally have Pepto-Bismol running through their veins.
@@homiedclown Remember that the next time you see a donut with pink frosting. That's how I refer to them.
I always loved the final course heading, "second star to the right and straight on till morning" is the directions to Never Never Land in Peter Pan. Interpreting Kirk is the boy who never grew up is an interesting take.
I didn't take it that way. I've always viewed him using that as the course heading to be his "call to adventure", so to speak. He's going back to what the Enterprise is supposed to be doing - exploring the unknown.
by the way: the music was specifically composed to emulate "the planets" by gustav holst, (specifically mars) and 'the firebird' by igor stravinsky, specifically the very beginning of the work. check them out, they're amazing.
I'm sure you've heard this from other people, but I'll share the episodes I feel are a NECESSARY foundation before jumping into The Next Generation movies. First, you'll want to watch S02E16 (Q Who), and then follow that up with S03E26, S04E01, and S04E02. These 3 episodes are a continuing story that help evolve the events of the initial episode from season 2. They provide a good foundation for the characters and events that you'll need to understand before going into the movies. If you want to explore a little further (and I highly recommend you do), then you could watch the Pilot episode and S020E09 (The Measure of a Man). I'm sure others will have their suggestions about which episodes you should watch, and here's the problem, there are a TON of good episodes in The Next Generation series. The entire series is worth watching if you like it. However, the initial 4 episodes I mentioned are essential and should be required before jumping into the movies. Hope to see you react to them!
I think TNG S04E02 is titled "Family" and it follows the fourth season premier S04E01 titled "The Best of Both Worlds Part 2", the third season finale S03E26 titled "The Best of Both Worlds Part 1". All of them are great episodes of ST:TNG and great for reactors to watch just before getting into the ST:TNG movies.
Q Who as Ironic Tonic mention and the other three episodes that Ironic Tonic and I mentioned above.
Good advice
Nicholas Meyer didn't like the march-like theme from Jerry Goldsmith. So he instructed James Horner and Cliff Eidelman to create something different. For Star Trek VI the musical inspiration was Gustav Holst's "The Planets".
It is important to watch S05E25 "The Inner Light", generally considered to be the best episode of TNG, period. Also referenced in at least one movie. Not sure why this wasn't mentioned by others already.
I agree. You likely should watch the two-part pilot first.
The older blonde lady on the Excelsior's bridge is an actress by the name of Grace Lee Whitney. She appeared in about half of the first season of the original STAR TREK TV series as Kirk's yeoman, Janice Rand. Whitney was let go when it was felt that the network wanted Kirk to be more "free" and "available" to the alien space babe of the week and having a semi-regular very attractive female on the Enterprise might clash with this - yes, it was a VERY different time. Grace Lee Whitney fell on hard times and ended up battling substance abuse and worse. To thank her for her place in STAR TREK canon, she was later cast in the movies whenever the powers that be could find a place for her.
In ST:TMP Rand is the transporter officer who unsuccessfully beams up the two crew members who then later die when returned to Earth.
In ST III: TSFS Rand is the auburn haired lady standing in the spacedock lounge, watching the Enterprise limping into into its berth. When the battle damage from Khan's attack comes into view, we get a closeup of Rand who is shaking her head, mournfully.
In ST IV: TVH Rand is an officer at Starfleet Emergency headquarters. We see her valiantly trying to keep the situation together during the whale probe crisis.
In ST VI: TUC, as you can see here, she is an officer on board Captain Sulu's Excelsior.
Finally, we see Rand again in an episode of ST: Voyager which actually flashes back in time to this era and to the Excelsior.
"They're animals."
"Jim, there is an historic opportunity here."
"Don't believe them. Don't trust them."
"They're dying."
"Let them die!"
Fun Fact: Christian Slater framed his $750 paycheck for his walk-on role. Slater wore the trousers made for William Shatner in Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan (1982). He quipped it was an "honor" during a BBC interview.
Hair Character Fact: Christopher Plummer's character, General Chang, was originally to have had hair, but as his make-up was being applied for the first time, Plummer liked the bald look, and had the make-up technician omit the hair. Kim Cattrall designed her own hairstyle for the role of Valeris, and also came up with the idea to completely shave off her sideburns in order to more prominently show her Vulcan ears.
Historical Fact: Spock's line "Only Nixon could go to China" refers to the 37th U.S. President Richard Nixon having been seen as the best American politician to be sent to China to discuss detente. His strong anti-Communist stance avoided giving the impression that the United States had "gone soft" and sent a sympathetic negotiator. The film is largely an allegory about the fall of Soviet Communism. When General Chang demands that Captain Kirk answer a question without waiting for the translation, it is an allusion to the real-life exchange at the United Nations between U.S. Ambassador Adlai Stevenson and Soviet Ambassador Valerian Zorin during the 1962 Cuban missile crisis. Also, the explosion on Praxis due to "insufficient safety measures" is akin to the meltdown at Chernobyl nuclear power plant in present-day Ukraine, which is believed to have contributed to the decline of the Soviet Union. Spock says that there was seventy years of "unremitting hostility" between the Klingon Empire and the Federation, which is not how long the Cold War lasted, but is the approximate length of time that the USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) existed in the twentieth century, with a communist form of government.
Gave the designers some head-scratching (heh). No one knew how the backs of a Klingon skull looked…
Thank you for the historical facts. I would have commented thusly, but you have done a marvelous job, better than I would have! This is one heavy duty movie, for those of us who lived through all that.
Mike Jankowski ...You're welcome!
Go in Peace and Walk with God. 😎 👍
The discussion according to memoirs of the director and Leonard nimoy…”the Berlin Wall had just come down, and got us thinking, what if the wall came down in space?”
You might recognize that David Warner who is playing Chancellor Gorkon in this movie was the Federation ambassador in the last movie.
Thank you for being so happy with this film. I saw it opening night at The Biograph Theater in Chicago. Gene Roddenberry had recently died. Part of the beginning of the film was a simple dedication "For Gene Roddenberry". The crowd jumped up and gave him a standing ovation which really set the mood for the entire film.
So glad you loved the movie! It was made during the absolute peak of star trek popularity in the 90s and it's one of my fondest most cherished memories
Yes - it was an AMAZING time for STAR TREK fans. The TOS movies, TNG hitting its absolute peak on TV, DS9 coming and a little after that the new show Voyager. I was reading the comics each month (which filled in events between the movies) and reading almost every new novel that came out. I was OBSESSED and now, looking back, I have WONDERFUL memories of an AMAZING time!
The overarching plot for this was largely inspired by the fall of the Berlin Wall and the following dissolution of the USSR.
As well as the explosion of Chernobyl
In turn, the climactic scene with the assassin has echoes of the analogous climax in 'The Manchurian Candidate', a 1962 cold-war drama with (among others) the just-departed Angela Lansbury that still stands up very well.
This film hits every point that I enjoy. It has mystery, intrigue, gravitas and it has great action. Also, I think the acting is at it's very best here with standout performances from Shatner and Plummer (you would know him from the Sound of Music).
The Star Trek VI overture is one of my favourite pieces written for Star Trek.
Just a note - Valeris is half Vulcan, half Romulan. Valeris is a Romulan name.
This is a very well done commentary on the Chernobyl disaster and the subsequent fall of the Berlin Wall/Iron Curtain, all of which took place only 2 years earlier.
Oh and some of the original cast make appearances in The Next Generation.
Thx, I forgot Valeris had Romulan blood (I had only recently learned that, too). Half Romulan though? I was thinking she was full Romulan…or maybe it was she was a Romulan mole (thus my misconception that she was full Romulan).
So first off, watching you, someone from a younger generation, fall in love with this film and franchise, and seeing your reactions to this film in particular has been wonderful. Everything you've said about this is exactly what I've felt for years, but far better thought through and explained than I was capable of when I first saw it, or even now in some cases.
Incidentally, this film was kind of a send-off for Merritt Butrick, the actor who played David Marcus, Kirk's son. he died of complications from AIDS two and a half years before the film released.
I saw this in the theater with my best friends, opening night! I was almost bawling at the end, I did not want to say goodbye. It was amazing! I was in Salt Lake City at the time and opening night we even saw a couple players for the Utah Jazz there that night to see the movie too. It was really cool.
I saw this opening night as well. Scotty kicking down the door and shooting the assassin got the biggest cheer! Nice that they gave him such a heroic moment.
i've seen this film dozens of times and MY GOD at 4:34 that cliff eidelman music sent me into crazed frenzy of excitement!!!!!!!
“They were probably people’s heroes.“
They were my heroes. Mine and many others.
Most boys looked up to athletes for their role models. Mine flew a starship named Enterprise. ❤️
They were the family I always wanted. I used to dream of going off on adventures with them.
Yup! From 1966 on...
The Vulcan lady (played by Kim Cattrall of Sex and the City) was _originally_ scripted as being Saavik from the other Trek films. But Roddenberry wasn't cool with her established character being a turn coat, so...new Vulcan lady.
That's too bad, I think it would have been an actual surprise, and had a more emotional impact, if an established character like Saavik was in on the conspiracy. As it stands, Valeris was the blatantly obvious traitor from the get-go.
@@homiedclown also makes the scene where Spock passes his mantle to her make sense and be memorable, instead of it seeming oddly out of place as is.
Christopher Plummer (Gen. Chang) is best known as the dad in The Sound of Music, and also appeared in Dragnet '87 with Tom Hanks and Dan Aykroyd. His daughter Amanda plays a major villain on the third and final upcoming season of Star Trek: Picard.
John Schuck returned from Star Trek IV as the Klingon ambassador, and Kurtwood Smith, who played Red Foreman on That '70s Show and That '90s Show, played the Federation president with style. He is also known as a villain in RoboCop, on Star Trek: Voyager, and in A Time To Kill.
The late David Warner played the Klingon Chancellor Gorkon (GOR bachev + Lin COLN) here, the Terran ambassador in Star Trek V, a villain on Star Trek: The Next Generation who tortured Picard, and Jack the Ripper in Nicholas Meyer's Time After Time (also starring Mary Steenburgen from Back to the Future III, and Malcolm McDowell from Star Trek: Generations).
Klingon blood was lavender in this film and never before or since because red blood would have earned the film at least an R rating.
Valeris was created when Robin Curtis was passed over to return as Saavik and Kirstie Alley was unaffordable. Unlike the half-Romulan Saavik, Valeris was a full-blooded Vulcan.
"What IS it with you anyway???" complained McCoy, because in the 79 episodes of the original series, it quickly became a trope for Kirk to bag the alien babe of the week. Another trope was for Kirk to face down a double of himself.
Kirk and McCoy's defense attorney, Colonel Worf, was father of Mogh, who was father of Starfleet Lt. Cdr. Worf, security officer of the Enterprise on Star Trek: The Next Generation, then on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
Christian Slater (Pump Up the Volume, Robin Hood: Prince of Thieves, Interview with the Vampire, etc.) got cast as the officer who woke up Sulu because his mom was the casting director and he was a huge fan. He kept (stole) his uniform as a souvenir.
The beautiful, intricate, "Aztec tile" construction of the Enterprise was muted severely in this film because they didn't like the way it shot with the special effects needed, so it was repainted to hide it, and you'll also note the ship looks less self-illuminated than before, and more like it's under a bright light instead of the darkness of space.
I'm so glad you enjoyed your autographed copy of the movie!
Star Trek VI(1991) explains how the peace treaty with Earth and the Klingons started. The Praxis explosion is a "Chernobyl in space". Cliff Eidelmann is a really good musician. He wrote music for Free Willy 3 in 1997!
Definitely the best movie in the original movie series. Its such a well written and well executed film. If you like political intrigue in your star trek, you should watch Deep Space 9. Most other star trek series are episodic in nature, but Deep Space 9 has a series long over-arching plot that unfolds in the background of the episodes, culminating is some really amazing payoffs.
Shortly before this film was released in theaters in December 1991, The Next Generation featured a two-part episode called "Unification" that functioned as a sequel of sorts to this film. The eleventh Star Trek movie (from 2009) would later act as a direct sequel to "Unification." The creator of Star Trek, Gene Roddenberry, also died in late 1991 (shortly after the original show reached its 25th anniversary), and "Unification" is dedicated to him.
Star Trek Discovery also has a connection as well, with the episode Unification III, continuing on from the 2 next gen eps Unification I and Unification II.
I’m so happy that you went through all the original films and enjoyed them.
They captured Trek in movie form better than anything that followed after.
Harve Bennett was a true gem for Trek on film.
Cheers! 😎👍🏼
Something that is often overlooked about this film is that the Soviet Union dissolved 19 days after this film was released. The plot revolves around an analog for US/USSR relations. Also interesting that some people attribute Nicholas Meyer as having helped end the Cold War with his 1983 made for TV film The Day After about nuclear war. It seriously scared politicians enough to make them reconsider policies.
A multiple-ST-role-actor you might have missed -- Chancellor Gorkon was played by David Warner, who was the shlubby Starfleet ambassador in white on that backwater planet in Star Trek V. He also played an iconic Cardassian that tortures Picard in TNG (and was the guy who lost his head in The Omen.) He's been in almost as many roles as Michael Caine, it seems.
The mind meld scene is appropriately horrific, elevated by her primal flinch when she realizes Spock is willing to cross that line, and the crew's reaction to witnessing what is essentially a public grape for the greater good. Dark Trek.
This was the one reaction of all the Trek films I've been waiting for from you. And it was worth it. I enjoyed how you described how you felt the inclusion of seeing the unknown crew of the Enterprise made it feel alive. The director, Nicholas Meyer, talks about this specifically on Star Trek II ( Director's commentary ) which was a fascinating look inside his process. And I think it shows more in this film than in Trek II. And the soundtrack was so wonderful that I remember going to a Sam Goodies' in January of 92 with a gift certificate I got for Christmas and buying the soundtrack on cassette.
Jesus I feel old confessing that.
I was younger than you when I saw this in theatres when it was first released. It will always be my favorite TOS movie, heck, favorite trek movie of all time! The story parallels Chernobyl (Praxis) and the fall of the iron curtain (ending of the neutral zone with Klingons.) These were real events in my lifetime too.
Great reaction to one of the best Star Trek movies, I agree this and Wrath of Khan are neck and neck in terms of quality. A few interesting things to note:
At the end when Kirk says, Second star to the right and straight on til morning", that's a line from Peter Pan.
The signatures shown at the end of Avengers: Endgame were an homage to this movie - the Russo brothers who directed Endgame were big Star Trek fans.
But of course the big elephant in the room for younger folks who may not realize where this movie fell in actual history: this movie came out the same month that the USSR dissolved and the cold war ended; the Berlin wall had fallen just two years prior, and the relationship between the Federation and Klingons is a statement on that with all of the awkward distrust and culture clashes that go with it. The explosion of the Klingon moon is a nod to the Chernobyl nuclear plant explosion in the USSR from 1986 (Watch the fantastic HBO series Chernobyl for more on that), and in many ways that was one of the nails in the coffin of the former USSR. It's easy to miss those parallels and metaphors today but for those of us that lived through it, they stand out like a sore thumb. Cheers.
Im glad to see you here to the end my boy. Its not over, you have a lot more to go my friend... WE will see you out there, keep it up and maybe WE will see you at one of the conventions. Dont be a stranger!!!
This was the first star trek movie I ever saw in a theater. It will always hold a special place in my heart.
Fun fact, the crewman who wakes up Sulu is played by Christian Slater. He was a big Star Trek fan and asked if he could have a cameo in the movie.
Also, going back to the Original Series, the Klingons were always meant to be a parallel to the Soviet Union, and they were pretty much always in a cold war with the Federation. And they really make that explicit in this movie. Praxis was meant to evoke the Chernobyl disaster, which helped bring the Soviet Union down, and this movie came out only a year or two after the Berlin Wall fell in real life. This movie is doing one of the things Star Trek has always done best; taking real-life questions and dilemmas and examining them through the lens of science fiction. It's a perfect send-off for this amazing crew who helped bring Star Trek to life from the very beginning.
If you've never seen it, I'd also *highly* recommend you watch the movie "Galaxy Quest". It is both a satire of Star Trek and one of the most loving tributes you could imagine. It's so incredibly well-done that many fans, myself included, basically consider it an honorary Star Trek movie. Now that you've seen all the original cast films, I think you'd really enjoy and appreciate it!
Christian Slater's mother was in charge of casting.
Your comments on feeling like the ship has a crew is definitely felt in the show too. There are shots of Kirk and Spock walking through the hallways and passing several different crew members just going about doing whatever. That is definitely something missing in the movies; I bet it is something like they poured so much money into sets and special effects to make a grand movie that they couldn't really afford for so many crew members that are in for a few seconds getting paid more than they would in a TV episode.
This movie was also a throwback to the old "morality plays" that Star Trek was known for in the 60's. The "Klingon Politics" you refer to in this are an analogue for the fall of the iron curtain and the dissolution of the Soviet Union, which happened right around the time this was filmed.
Each character had their day, their moment to shine, in this movie.
20:37 Imagine planting the boots on the one person on that ship who couldn't have possibly wore them.
Looks like you enjoyed and saved your best reaction for ST6 Ollie. This was the first star trek movie I saw in the cinema, the 3 things that stick in my memory are the Praxis explosion was so loud at the start. The interrogation of Lt. Valeris seemed really violent Kim Cattrall's eye is streaming before she screams that really sells the scene. Finally the signatures on the credits was a great final touch to a great movie. I think you will enjoy the baton passing movie that comes next with Generations.
That signature ending is the first time I think I ever remember hard crying at the end of a film. Fun fact. 28 years later a pair of brothers who were heavily inspired by Star Trek used that ending to cap off their own epic movie story in Avengers Endgame.
My all-time favorite TNG episode is The Inner Light (S5 Ep25 I think). It doesn't really feature the Enterprise nor the regular crew so much, but is a focus on Picard, an alien civilization, and some deep philosophical themes. Later episodes pay homage to this one through easter eggs and subtle call-backs.
Awesome send off for them. I get chocked up at the end, everytime. No matter how many times I watch that movie.
And so the same director saved Trek from its own self-induced destruction and as a bonus, managed to get the the best performance out of "the Shat". Salute to Captain Sulu for saving the day (he would have done more but something something Bill Shatner's ego something). Also the awesome ham to ham combat between two over the top Shakespearian actors chewing the scenery! A truly worthy send off for the original crew 😁
[last lines]
[Kirk's final Captain's Log]
Captain James T. Kirk: Captain's Log, stardate 9529.1. This is the final cruise of the Starship Enterprise under my command. This ship and her history will shortly become the care of another crew. To them and their posterity will we commit our future. They will continue the voyages we have begun, and journey to all the undiscovered countries, boldly going where no man... where no *one* has gone before
Great last lines of an era.
So glad you are going to react to the
Next Generation.
This movie was inspired by the end of the Soviet Union and Cold War. Fun fact, when Captain Kirk gets middle named, that is the first time his middle name was ever disclosed. Also the defense attorney is an ancestor and the same actor as the Worf TNG character.
It might’ve already been said; but there was a lot of hype for this film.
This came out in 1991; marking Star Trek’s 25th Anniversary. The marketing for the film included two amazing trailers; one of which showed Kirk being killed by a phaser blast.
The casting for the film included Christopher Plummer, a cameo appearance of Christian Slater, David Warner, and Michael Dorn; who was playing the grandfather of his character on Star Trek: The Next Generation.
At the same time, Star Trek: The Next Generation was in its 4th season and was getting very popular; with storylines that involve characters like Picard, Data and Worf. When they were going into Season 5; to honor the anniversary, they made a two-part episode with Spock called “Unification”.
And, the film is dedicated to Star Trek’s creator Gene Roddenberry. He passed away in October 1991; about six weeks before the release of the film.
Fun fact, early in Shatner's career, he'd been Plummer's understudy whe he played the lead in Henry V at the 1956 Stratford Shakespeare Festival in Ontario. Plummer had a kidneystone, and couldn't perform one night, but sat in the audience and watched Shatner's performance. “Where I stood up to make a speech, he sat down. He did the opposite of everything I did. And I knew that son of a bitch was going to be a star.”
Re: Shakespeare in the original Klingon.
It's a reference to the fact that in the 1940s or 30s, (or maybe even the 20s,) the Nazis claimed that Shakespeare had been German.
The movie came out in 1991, the real cold war between the USSR and the USA was ending as well, the end of the Klingon empire was analogous to the fall of communism in the soviet union as well. One of my favorite films.
Such a great movie. So good having an actor the stature of the late great Christopher Plummer as Chang. I believe Shatner and him were old friends from their early acting days in Canada which is in part why he took the role. And Nicholas Meyer is a huge Sherlock Holmes fan having written his own Holmes novels, one of which became a movie (The Seven Percent Solution), hence the Holmes reference. Top tier Trek.
And the late David Warner returns for the second consecutive movie, this time as Chancellor Gorkon. He played St. John Talbot (the human ambassador on the Planet of Galactic Peace) in "Star Trek V".
I appreciate the enthusiasm coming from the younger generation. My introduction to Star Trek was watching re-runs of TOS with my Mother, way back in the early 80's. Then these films, TNG, DS9, and Voyager. I still periodically log into Star Trek Online, because even though it's a buggy, micro-transaction store run by asshats, I still get to fly a starship, so who cares.
It was interesting to see Cold War politics playing out in the Star Trek universe just about the same time the Soviet Union was collapsing. Chancellor Gorkon was a mix of Mikhail Gorbachev and Abraham Lincoln, you can tell by his style of beard with no mustache. He was played by David Warner who played several characters in different Star Trek movies and series. Other fun facts: the Enterprise's dining room where the crew and the Klingons have their dinner, is actually the conference room from the Enterprise D from The Next Generation and the Federation president's office was actually Ten Forward also from the Enterprise D.
Lots of the sets were redresses of the standing TNG sets in order to save money. The corridors, transporter room and engineering were also from the Enterprise-D, too (and, of course, many of them were originally redresses of the old Enterprise movie sets themselves. They love to reuse stuff on Trek!)
Saw it in the theaters when it came out and that was pretty much my reaction as well. Kirk's "Fire!" and that torpedo tracking is still one of the greatest (if not #1) shot in sci-fi history.
This is the first Star Trek movie I got to see in the movie theater. By the time it came out I was watching Star Trek: The Next Generation new episodes each week, watching Star Trek: The Animated Series on Nickelodeon whenever they played episodes, had watched all the previous movies with my dad, and had even been to a Star Trek convention. Whenever I found out this was the “last” Star Trek movie I thought at the time that meant I’d never get to see Star Trek on the big screen, but thankfully Paramount decided to make movies with Star Trek: The Next Generation cast. Although it meant that series had to end for some reason, but by then we had Star Trek: Deep Space Nine to watch new episodes of weekly and we got movies and then we got Star Trek: Voyager, too! Like for a time there was a lot of Star Trek for fans to enjoy on tv and in cinemas and then it slowed down and we just had Enterprise, then the JJAbrams movies, and now it’s back to fans having lots of Trek again with Star Trek: Discovery, Star Trek: Picard, Star Trek: Strange New Worlds, Star Trek: Lower Decks, and Star Trek: Prodigy. Between all the Star Trek stuff and Star Wars stuff alone I’ve got a lot of things to watch and enjoy (and then add in other things I’m a fan of and OMG I think we’re living through the greatest time to enjoy entertainment!!!!)
Loved the tears at the end and the enjoyment of the signatures at the end. I also love the signatures at the end. Great reaction and review! Look forward to your reaction to the next film Star Trek Generations if you’re planning on watching those. If not, that’s cool, too. I will say that if you liked the political side of this film (which is one of my favorite things about it, too), then you’ll enjoy any of the Star Trek series as there are lots of episodes that have variations on political aspects. If you ever get the chance to watch any of the shows, they’re great, too.
Ollie, I don't know if you recognized him, but the actor who played the Federation President (with the "stylish" white hair and goatee) was also in Robocop -- as Clarence, the scumbag leader who shot/killed Murphy, and ended up getting stabbed in the neck by Robocop. The actor's name is Kurtwood Smith.
If he played the part now I wonder if he would threaten to put his foot up a Klingon's ass as he also plays Red Foreman on That 70's show.
The Wrath of Khan is great, but this is my favorite movie of the original 6. Hell, probably my favorite movie in the entire franchise.
Originally Nicholas Meyer wanted to use Holst's The Planets as the score for the movie, but ironically the licensing ended up being too expensive versus getting a composer to write an original score, so instead Cliff Eidelman got the gig (for whom this was his first major assignment). Sadly, Eidelman never really got into the A ranks as, apart from his adventurous score for Christopher Columbus: The Discovery the following year, he ended up getting largely relegated to doing scores for movies that didn't demand big orchestral soundworlds - or music of great import. Hence, he also quickly faded from notice and never re-emerged from that.
Also, General Chang is one of my all-time fave Trek villains! His Shakespeare quotes are perfect and Christopher Plummer chews the scenery every chance he gets!
The Klingons were based on the Soviets in the 60s. This movie - Allegorically - is about the death of the USSR.
There are no words for this film...only watching it can give you the emotional rollercoaster a movie should. Even if you know spoilers, the way it brings out whats inside of us, is unparalelled. The cast are full of seasoned shakespeare actors (most big trek cast members are shakesperean actors) and the volume of Shakespeare and other literary references makes it one of the best films ever made - period.
ST6 is my favorite of the original movies. It might have a *slightly* weaker story than Wrath of Khan, but by far looks the best, has the best effects, bets music, best guest stars, and the best camera work of the series.
It´s just a better movie than TWOK. But TMP has the best effects and music.
This movie was the perfect send off for the original Star Trek. And I remember when it came out, all of us in Trek Fandom agreed that this movie gave Capt. Kirk and crew the ending they deserved--remember, the original series never got a proper finale in 1969...it was just, "here's the rest of the episodes to finish up Season 3 and we're done, Star Trek is cancelled!" This is definitely one of the most satisfying and one of the best Trek movies ever!
The Praxis explosion at the beginning of this movie is easily in my top 5 Star Trek moments. It’s just too epic to not be.
So many movies (including the Star Wars special editions) have imitated that effect over the years.
@@Felamine It was actually known in the industry as "the praxis effect," in reference to its origin in this film.
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The Federation President was played by Kurtwood Smith, aka Red Forman.
Yes, 6 is one of the absolute best Trek stories ever. A few of the crew show up in the next movie, but it's mainly a hand off to the cast of The Next Generation. Now, if it's Klingon politics you're after, the Next Generation and especially Deep Space Nine have a LOT of Klingon politics that spans large parts from both series entire runs.
Also Don't forget in DS9 The Federation and Klingons go to War with some epic battles.
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Cliff Eidelman did a great job with the score.
Well, he had a great inspiration *cough*. Meyer originally wanted an adaptation of Holst's "Planets", but that proved "unfeasibly expensive" according to Wikipedia. After other composers turned down the film, Meyer turned to Eidelman. Funnily enough, there are major parts of the soundtrack that ended up very close to Holst's "Planets" anyway... so much so that when I played Holst's "Mars - the Bringer of War" to a friend at the time, he thought it was part of the ST6 soundtrack...
Make no mistake, I like the score, but Meyer and Eidelman pulled a fast one on Holst's heirs nonetheless.
This movie was full of literary references, from Shakespeare to Sherlock Holmes to Peter Pan.
In my opinion, the even numbered films are the best.
If you've never seen the show, you should do some reaction videos to the original series.
A glorious send-off! My favorite Trek movie, so fun, mysterious, campy, etc. Great acting and music and plot. "Second star to the right....morning." from Peter Pan. So many great literary quotes and references in this movie, even a movie reference: "Guess who's coming to dinner." Christopher Plummer was a phenomenal villain. The president was the father from That 70s Show.
The actor that wakes up Captain Sulu is Christian Slater.
He's a big Star Trek fan and asked the casting director to give him any role in the movie just to be part of Trek.
Doesn't hurt that the casting director is his mom! LOL!
A great final film of the original crew. Gene Roddenberry hated it he saw a screening before he died. He hated how Starfleet officers were portrayed as "racist" and how Kirk would never think like that, also disliked conflict between the crew (Kirk and Spock). I think it worked great it showed despite how far humanity has come there is still prejudice after 70 years of hostility. It was realistic, and it was also a mirror of the fall of the Soviet Union since it came out around that time.
Also the picture of his son was a tribute to the actor who passed away from aids a few years after the 2nd movie came out. And the pink blood was done to avoid an R rating.
When Star Trek 4 was released on the channel, I commented that I was excited as it meant that the Star Trek 6 reaction was close, and Ollie liked my comment. I'm so happy that Ollie enjoyed this film, because it is my favourite Star Trek film. There are so many great moments.
in the scene at HQ at the start, when Kirk says "LET THEM DIE!" if you notice, Valaris is also in the room - right at the back - standing in shadow.
The later movies were coming out while The Next Generation was playing on tv. In the outro, Kirk says where no man, or no one…that segues with TNG intro, which changed “no man” to “no one” as a means to modernize the language from its ‘60s routes. Really mice how they pass the baton…which they more directly do in Generations.
The wide shots of Rura Penthe were filmed on top of a glacier in Alaska. The close ups (like when they first arrived) were actually filmed on a beach in California with a lot of fake snow!
Political tension, murder mystery, the morality of Kirk's decisions when he breaks the rules(or even when he follows them)....
All these things await you in the original series.
You should consider doing reactions to the TV series. It's 3 seasons long 79 episodes so it might take a while but it's really fun and would give you more time with the crew. I am glad that you will be doing some of the Next Generation episodes considering how some stuff plays out in the movies.
Taking a look at the Original Series would give you backstories into the characters you've come to appreciate. There are even some very humorous episodes, as well as some very serious ones.
This movie had an A list supporting cast for sure some legendary actors some of which would return to Star Trek in various roles.
David Warner Chansoler Gorkon
Christopher Plummer as Chang
Kirkwood Smith the Federation President
Kim Catrell Lt Valloris
Brock Peter's Admiral Cartwright
Christian Slater unnamed Ensign. He actually never cashed his paycheck his mom was the costume designer he just wanted to be in Star Trek
30:00 the signatures hit even harder when you realise that of the seven, we only have three still with us
We just recently lost nichelle nichols, and had lost james doohan and Leonard nimoy a few years back, deforest Kelly sadly passed even earlier back in the late 90s
Chekov (Walter Koenig), sulu (George takei) and Kirk (William Shatner) are those who are still with us
Glad you loved it. I had the same reaction as you to the opening music. Amazing. Actually, the composer was asked to come up with opening music that was similar to Stravinsky's "Firebird." And this was the result.
When I was 13, my aunt got married and held her reception in a convention center that was also hosting a Star Trek convention. I had only recently started watching Trek (with TNG's monumental Best of Both Worlds two-parter), and was fascinated by the idea of a whole convention of Star Trek fans. John De Lancie was the special guest, though I hadn't yet seen one of his episodes and didn't know who he was. Anyway, one of the things that the convention had was a screening of the new movie, Star Trek 6. I thought it was an early screening and it hadn't been released yet, but in retrospect I don't think that was the case. It might have just been a preview with a few scenes. Anyway, they let me and some of my cousins into the screening for free so we watched part of the movie until our parents dragged us away. That evening cemented my Star Trek fandom. I went from liking the show to being a full-on Trekker.
There's a few scenes that didn't make it into the theatrical cut, maybe that's what you saw at the convention.
@@AlanCanon2222 honestly I wish I could remember more but it was over 30 years ago.
The biggest problem about this movie is that it's so obvious how Valeris was originally intended to be Saavik (which many fans think she should have been because they want to see a villainous Saavik, but I would rather it have been Saavik along with another character where Saavik would be the red herring villain & the other character would be the ACTUAL villain), & of course this led it to make it WAY TOO OBVIOUS that Valeris was the one whodunnit.
HOWEVER almost all Trek fans overlook that problem with the movie because it was otherwise so awesome.
That was so good! Looking forward to your continuation with the next generation!
Yes, this is also my favorite Star Trek film. Thanks for sharing your reaction with us!
I am so glad you enjoyed the original star trek crew and movies. I have to say, seeing you tearing up at the end made me tear up to. I think it's so nice to see someone so young, so new to the franchise appreciate something most of us grew up with. I'm 35 years old, grew up during Voyager but when I got my first job, some of the first things I bought were the dvd boxsets of TOS, TNG and DS9. It was the only way to catch up 😊. I might have to take a look at your patreon, see what episodes have been suggested and I might have some more 😉. See you next time Ollie
I agree. Star Trek 2 and Star Trek 6 are the best but 6 is my favorite.
Second best soundtrack in the OG series of films and yes even over TWOK.
The book version of the movie makes the mind meld scene even more impactful because one it shows that Spock was still respectful of her as a fellow Vulcan and waited for her to give permission to enter her mind. More than that though what happened that made her scream like that was Spock showing her what it was like to have died and how he felt about what Kirk and crew did to recover him and restore him to life. His sharing of his deepest emotions broke her.
To this day it still cracks me up to see Scotty going KoolAid man on that door and shooting the sniper. "Oh yeaaaaah Laddie,"
Not jsut signatures, they are literally signing off after their last movie/show.