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🖖STAR TREK VI: The Undiscovered Country* First Time Watching MOVIE REACTION
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2024
- Enjoy my reaction to the movie Star Trek 6 The Undiscovered Country (1991)! Capt. James Kirk (William Shatner) and the crew of the USS Enterprise are carrying Klingon Chancellor Gorkon (David Warner) to Earth to negotiate a peace treaty with the United Federation of Planets. The ship appears to fire on a Klingon vessel, and Gorkon is killed in the subsequent confusion. Kirk and the ship's doctor, Leonard McCoy (DeForest Kelley), are arrested for murder, leaving Spock (Leonard Nimoy) to figure out who is behind the attack and save the negotiations.
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Next Gen is a good show. Took a season, or two to get on its feet, but it holds its own alongside TOS from there on.
There are a few episodes in TNG that have appearances by the TOS crew, you'll not want to miss those at the least.
Thank for reacting to Trek. It’s so fun watching new folks joining the fandom 🙌😎🖖
They all got fat . . . And dumb. . . Good score and sulu. I believe lenord nemoy wrote this story. And he passed 4 years later... it had some conundrums but.... there's some phrases. . . About protocol a mariene would understand. Logic is the beginning of understanding. There's also emotion peace kindness grace
Thank you for this, perfect ending to this madhouse of a week!! Are you watching the whole TNG, just select episodes plus the movies or just movies?!?
"He's quoting a lot of stuff..."
RIP to Christopher Plummer. Him reciting Shakespeare in full Klingon make-up is one of my favorite things in 6.
And it leads to one of Bones' best lines in the movie "I'd give real money if he'd shut up" 😂
Christopher Plummer a legendary Canadian actor who received Canada's highest civilian award for merit for his long time services to acting and entertainment. I think he deserves recognition in the order of the British Empire as well to be honest, especially for his excellent performance as the Duke of Wellington in the film Waterloo!
@@Oxley016he is also Captain von Trapp in _The Sound of Music_
@@isaackellogg3493 And Squadron Leader Colin Harvey in The Battle Of Britain.
He actually reprised this role in a video game, Klingon Academy. If anything his performance in the mission breifings for that game is even better then in the film. Well worth finding on youtube.
"Second star to the right...and straight on till morning."
Salute to the OG crew. Legends.
Love whenever Trek quotes from literature. It's a very educated show.
The directions to NeverneverLand...where no one ever grows old. 🖖
"Tout droit, vers cette obscure clarté ... qui tombe des étoiles" (French version, quoting Le Cid by Corneille)
"FLY HER APART THEN!!"
One of the best lines ever, in the perfect moment. Just someone trying to save his friends.
Sulus part in this movie is why I love it so much.
You know, this is one of my favourite films, I've seen it dozens of times, and until right now, I've never known what Sulu said there.
@@theendistheend123 And the Excelsior is just awesome in this movie. Its shields just tank those torpedo hits.
@@theendistheend123 A spin off with Sulu in command of the Excelsior would have been the logical thing to do at the time.
@@andreabindolini7452 would have loved that
"You might have been killed"
"The night is young"
"If we can't find the conference, we're dead"
"I've been dead before"
This movie has some of the most badass quotes, subtle and awesome
"She'll fly apart"
"Fly her apart then"
Scotty: "That Klingon b*tch killed her father!"
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Spock: "If I were human, I believe my response would....Go To Hell....if I were human!"
Great quotes!
I watch these movies and the original series, STNG and the rest.
Then I watch some Discovery and I shake my head in disbelief at how bad the writing compared to real Star Trek.
@@WillCamxthere’s a reason the fans call that one STD.
"You haven't heard Shakespeare until you've heard it in its original Klingon text."
"Perhaps you have heard Russian epic of Cinderella." - For those unaware, this is a running gag in TOS where Chekov claims everything originated in Russia.
Kirk's lawyer is played by Michael Dorn, who also played Worf in Star Trek: The Next Generation. It's been stated the lawyer was Worf's grandfather.
I have a very warm place in my heart for Klingons. Due in no small part to Dorn's portrayal of Worf. I understand her perception of them in this film, but I'm really looking forward to seeing her get to know them a little better.
@@dmwalker24 The evolution of the Klingons as a culture across TOS and TNG is really interesting and I love how much TNG explores them.
Was this actually stated in TNG?
I fully admit I have a number of gaps in my watching and knowledge of TNG, as much as I enjoy it.
@@machfront It wasn't mentioned in the show, but the showrunners, Gene Roddenberry all said Worf is the grandfather of our Worf in TNG.
@@dmwalker24 I think the Klingon design was calculated to play on prejudices so it would help level an air of distrust for the audience. It worked really well.
Fun fact, Christian Slater's mom was the casting director for the movie Star Trek VI.
He said that he was a Star Trek fan and he wanted to make a cameo in the movie.
He was paid a few hundred dollars and he didn't cash the cheque.
He framed it instead. 😂
He also said that he stole his uniform costume. 😂
This one came out in 1991. Right after the Berlin Wall fell and the Soviet Union broke up. Very timely. Great way to send off the crew. I started watching Star Trek TNG from the beginning and loved every minute of it. I love the ending where it changes from "To boldly go where no man has gone before" to "To boldly go where no one has gone before"
You hit it exactly to watch this after following the crew for so many years was incredible. Glad I could relive that through your eyes.
Not only that, but the inspiration for the Praxis explosion came largely from the Chernobyl incident. Gorbachev would say later that he believed Chernobyl substantially hastened the fall of the Soviet Union, so the parallels between that and the Praxis incident leading to the fall of the Klingon Empire are strong. Definitely different vibes watching this if you grew up before the end of the Cold War, and it’s one of many reasons this one is my favorite Star Trek movie.
I still remember watching 'Encounter at Farpoint' when it premiered 09/28/1987 as a kid. I suspect she is going to really get into TNG, and I'm here for it.
The Soviets we're not fully broken until December 25, 1991. On that day The Russian Soviet Socialist Republic (communist name of Russia proper) of the Soviet Union became The Russian Federation. So yeah the Soviet Union was dying but not fully dead. In fact it's still alive if you recognize the micro state of Transnistria.
"from no man to no one" Including the Klingons and not just mankind. They were on about that over the dinner table. Funny how both warrior cultures were working together, the hardliners from the federation too, just to keep their cultures alive. Trust to not trust, on the same mission in that. If only they'd seen sooner how well they worked together Klingons wouldn't fear being slaves and could see even in the federation like-minded people exist. Hardliners too would have a new wardog and a new excuse to be loose on the leash.
Love how the Russians turned out to be our friends.
It sucks that this is the last movie with the original cast but it was a beautiful sendoff and I loved when they showed their signatures at the end.
...and screen-capture their signatures and fill out some credit card applications
At least there are more references and appearances of original crew members, just not together.
Jen, you've gone BOLDLY where no other reactor has gone before...THE DISTANCE! Thorough, and committed to finish with all the original films. I'm sure you see the appeal of this cast and characters. Thank you again Jen...Eric
Hey Eric...sorry I'm late, just got back and was not expecting another Post from Jen today! (shrugs) Well, I told You that "Pitch Black" is coming-up Next Week, and Jen is also doing "The Mist" and "Carrie" too!!
She made it to VI!
This was a fine send off for our beloved crew. Watching it with you, Jen, only makes it more fun! 🤭🥰🖖
That is a sweet comment @STAG6700 :)
Jen is adorable. 🥰
The banquet scene, ironically, has two of the greatest Hamlets to ever play the role...David Warner (as Gorkon) and Christopher Plummer (as Chang) both played Hamlet. Warner played the role with the Royal Shakespeare Company in 1965, and his performance is ranked as one of the best. Plummer had already played the role in Stratford, Ontario (Canadian boy), when he did it at Stratford-Upon-Avon for the RSC in 1961, which was recorded on film for the BBC. That Plummer quotes Shakespeare so much in this movie is one of my favorite things about his performance as Chang.
The film was directed by Nicholas Meyer, who directed Wrath of Khan. However, Meyer also wrote and directed a wonderful time travel film that co-starred David Warner in 1979 called Time After Time. Warner played the villain in it...and was amazing!
The Night Duty Officer who wakes Sulu on the Excelsior is an uncredited Christian Slater, who besides being a big star at the time was also a huge Star Trek fan. He got the job partly because his mother, Mary Jo Slater was the casting director for the film. The uniform Slater wears is Shatner's in Wrath of Khan...and Slater stole it for his personal use (which he revealed years later on Graham Norton).
Kirk and McCoy's defense attorney is Colonel Worf, grandfather of Lt. Worf of the Eenterprise-D in Star Trek: The Next Generation, and played by Michael Dorn, the first ST: TNG cast member to come to the big screen in a Star Trek film.
The Federation President was played by Kurtwood Smith...Clarence Bodiker in RoboCop, and Red Foreman on That 70's Show.
The Sniper at Khitomer was Rene Auberjonois, and at the time of this film was two years from taking on his long-running role on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine as Constable Odo.
The signatures in the credits really brought on the tears. It was the perfect send off for our crew. I unashamedly had the soundtrack on repeat for ages.
Also it’s worth mentioning that Michael Dorn who is Kirk’s advocate at the trial is Star Trek: The Next Generation’s (and later, Star Trek: Deep Space Nine’s) resident Klingon, Worf . 🖖🏻
Grace Lee Whitney, who played Yeoman Rand in TOS (until she got fired) appears briefly as the Communications Officer aboard Excelsior. She makes a reappearance in an episode of Voyager as Excelsior's First Officer under Captain Sulu.
This one is my favourite ST film. It’s a great swansong for the original crew, and I loved Spock’s “go to hell” at the end. It’s how we all felt.
When I saw this at the cinema I don’t think there was a dry eye in the house.
The literary allusions to Shakespeare, Peter Pan, and others is delightful. The echoes of 1989 are strong too. These movies were part of my youth. Thank you for bringing back some great memories Jen.
Not just 1989. When this movie came out, the future of the Soviet Union was still very much up in the air and Western Europe and America had no clue what would come after the Cold War.
@@Yora21 Yes... I gather the explosion of Praxis was 'based' on the Chernobyl disaster...
Aside from being amazing sci-fi, Trek got me to look up and be interested in a lot if literature, music, and other references. I figured if it's important enough for Kirk to quote it, I should look it up. Some from Picard, too.
Nicholas Meyer absolutely had the Midas touch with the original series cast movies. Directed 2 and 6, and had a writing credit in 4. The meme that the even numbered movies were the best ones is absolutely true.
Thanks for reacting to all these Star Trek films! :)
Nicholas Meyer also directed an awesome time travel movie called Time After Time, I HIGHLY recommend, Miss Jen!
Yes time after time ❤
Beautiful and Classical Film with Christopher Reeve, but DAMN is it ever Sad!💘
@@tomhoffman4330 I think you're thinking of "Somewhere in Time." "Time After Time" is very different -- has Malcolm McDowell IIRC, and David Warner.
@@jcortese3300and Mary Steenburgen (sigh). ❤❤❤
Turns out Steenburgen's pretty good in time travel movies.
Two legendary Canadian Shakespearean actors, Shatner and Plummer, going head to head, was the icing on the cake.
IIRC, Shatner understudied Plummer early on in their careers, in one of the Shakespeare histories
Shatner was Lawrence Olivier understudy and to step in when he was unable to perform 🎭...in the theatre...they have worked together wayy before this.
@@rebeccawyse5562 Awesome to see them on the big screen together.
@@Blazingstoke You are indeed correct. According to the Memory Alpha article on Christopher Plummer, "In the 1950s, Plummer's understudy for a production of Henry V at the Stratford Shakespeare Festival was William Shatner. During the festival, Plummer fell ill and Shatner was forced to take the stage, giving Shatner his first big break."
There are a lot of parallels in this movie to the end of the Cold War, with the destruction of Praxis being analogous to the Chernobyl incident.
From here on out it's the Enterprise-D and the Next Generation crew, have fun! 😊
I grew up loving Star Trek in the 70s as a little kid. I love seeing young people fall in love with the OG crew. To me, they are the real Star Trek. Only TNG comes close. Wrath of Khan and Undiscovered Country are great movies in the franchise. Looking forward to seeing your reactions to the next generation crew.
It was a very emotional experience in the theater and bittersweet. That ending on the bridge actually got me teary-eyed in that these characters were ending.
I can’t help but get a little bit emotional at the end of this movie, the TOS crew have always been my favourite and saying good bye to most of them now in real life the end gets more and more heart breaking.
I love this movie so much! I'm 52, and this crew has been a part of my entire life. I get misty eyes everytime I see this. Now, that being said, I grew to think that STTNG was one of the best TV shows ever created. And I grew to love that crew a great deal as well. It started when I was in highschool. My son just recently watched the series and it is also his favorite TV show to date. The TNG movies will not disappoint.
Also 52 and well said
I still remember going to see this with my dad in theaters when I was little. We had to sit in the very front row, and it made the experience even more epic.
Same here with my dad
Certain movies, you should just sit in the front row no matter what.
This is one of my favourite Star Trek movies; unlike V, the big bad wasn’t an evil deity but the very real threat of politics and diplomacy failing and peace dying with them.
Christopher Plummer was excellent as Chang and brought a real touch of theatrical class to a villain whose race were typically presented as aggressive and lacking any kind of refinement. Back in the 50s, him and Shatner actually performed in similar theatre circles and Shatner was even his understudy on one occasion iirc. So bringing that Shakespearean element to Star Trek was a really sentimental wink to both of them.
Sadly, this was De Forest Kelley’s last on-screen appearance before his death in 1999.
And yes, this was indeed Christian Slater. As far as I know, his mother was the Casting Director for this movie and (as a big fan) he was delighted to accept doing a cameo.
The continuity is great. John Schuck returns as the Klingon Ambassador, the return of the Federation President, Admiral Cartwright, etc.
In the theater, my girlfriend was puzzled when I gleefully reacted to Rura Penthe. I explained at our post-movie dinner that this was a delightful homage. Rura Penthe is the prison colony Captain Nemo and his crew escaped from in Jules Verne's _'Twenty Thousand Leagues Under The Sea.'_
This movie was composer Cliff Eidelman's breakthrough moment. Before this, he had been composing for movies and television for about 3 years, and his work had been noticed. It is a wonderful score.
Thank you, Jen! Most reactors only focus on Star Wars. I enjoyed every Star Trek reaction you’ve done! Looking forward to more!
I've had a rough few weeks, Jen, but your quirky noises and cuteness have been the perfect solace. 😁 xxx
One crew's adventures end, and another crew's adventure begins.
Live long and prosper, Jen!
This is my favorite of the original series movies. I'm so happy you enjoyed it. It truly does have a beautiful ending and send off. I'm definitely looking forward to seeing your TNG reactions soon.
Mine too. It was by far my favorite. My father got me into Star Trek in the 80s and his was Wrath of Khan, mine was always this one. he passed away in March and I always love watching Jen's reactions to these films. "You haven't truly experienced shakespeare until you've read him in the original Klingon"
It's also the best soundtrack in my opinion
I wish more people would recognize how wonderful this movie is
STNG is a great show, but only the first two of their movies were any good.
@@richlisola1 And I disagree.
@@richlisola1I love Nemesis.
Next to Khan, my favorite in the series. And how about Sulu yelling, "FLY HER APART THEN!". Litteral chills knowing that he's rushing to aid of his friends.
Loyalty defined.
The great thing about 2 and 6 is that, even if you don't know anything about Star Trek, they really work as standalone sci-fi movies. :)
One of the great things about this movie is that it isn't *just* a science fiction movie. It has elements of a murder mystery, a political thriller, a spy caper and a prison break, all in one.
All of the original crew got his or her chance to shine here. I'm so thankful to Nicholas Meyer for letting each of them have a final hurrah.
I don't expect Jen to know this, but the events of this film closely mirror the last few years of the Soviet Union. The Klingons serve as proxies for the Soviets and the destruction of Praxis mirrors the Chernobyl nuclear disaster. _Star Trek_ didn't shy away from addressing controversial topics of the day. Some of the best episodes of the original show took on such issues as racism, sexism and more -- things we're still struggling with today. They were able to do those episodes because they couched them under the guise of sci fi.
Not to keep dumping on _The Final Frontier,_ but I'm so glad they didn't end the original film series on that one. This is definitely the way to bow out. Without giving away spoilers, another very popular film series which came after these ended its run the same way, with the stars' signatures before the final credits.
I'm here for Jen's immersion into the _Next Generation_ movies and TV shows. She could pick and choose a few episodes from each of the seven seasons, then move onto the films.
I like how during the dinner scene, even Klingons were offended by Kirk’s Hitler quip 😂😂😂
I love how invested you are into the Star Trek universe
The next generation is awesome. First two seasons are alright but it really picks up in season 3 to 7. Great reaction to the Undiscovered Country
0:14 Sadly yes, Jen. 1991 was a big year for Star Trek.
- It was the 25th Anniversary of The Original Series.
- Star Trek: The Next Generation was already on the air for four seasons; going into its fifth. Series co-star Michael Dorn appears in this film as Colonel Worf; the grandfather of his character of Lieutenant Worf, on the show.
- Leonard Nimoy (Spock) had agreed to guest star on Star Trek: TNG in a two-part episode called “Unification”, which aired on TV just three short weeks before Star Trek VI opened.
- And Gene Roddenberry, the man who created Star Trek, had sadly died in October of 1991. Both this film and the two-part TNG episode “Unification” are dedicated to his memory.
I still somewhere have the video tape of the orgional broadcast of the 25th anniversary special
@@karter95 I had it too. The version I had aired before Roddenberry passed away. After his passing, any subsequent airings had a different ending that had a short tribute to Roddenberry
This was one of my most memorable experiences I've ever had in a theatre. Surround by friends who grew up on Star Trek, and every single audience member cheering along.
My older cousin was visiting, and he was a huge star trek fan, so we went to see this in the theater. I was too young to catch the references to the Cold War, but that did not matter one bit. I had only seen one other Star Trek movie, and by no means was a fan, but I absolutely loved it, and yeah, the whole theater was going nuts when the Bird of Prey was exposed.
A few years later I decided to watch the movies in order and was blown away at how good they were.
I saw this film in an out of town cinema when released but as part of a 6 film tribute to Star Trek TOS. I was surrounded by fellow fans some in costume, it was a great experience though bum-numbing. Especially, as I`ve never been able to attend any conventions of any of my Sci-Fi favourites.
@@sydhamelin1265 There was a standing ovation in the theater I watched it in when the Bird of Prey was destroyed.
@@geoffreyreuther5260 Gotta love the arrogance of Chang. When the Excelsior showed up, he could've finished the Enterprise, then focused on it, but he was so confident of his victory that he preferred to toy with them.
It was as gratifying as the scene in Khan, when they disable the Reliant's shields.
The thing I love most, among many things about this movie, is the character evolution of spock. He starts out to do the kohlinar in 1, then realizes he cant abandon his empathy, gives his life for his shipmates in 2, comes back to life in 3, begins to value his human half at the end of 4, and then here, he says, "logic is the beginning of wisdom, not the end" Quite the character arc, from who he was on the original show ......
Spock's arc in the movies is one of the greatest aspects of Star Trek. It mirrors Leonard Nimoy's changes in views on the character.
This is my favorite original series movie.General Chang is one of my favorite Star Trek villains. You can't go wrong with a Klingon quoting Shakespeare, he was a warrior until the end
I saw this in the movie theater when it first came out. I'm not ashamed to say it made me emotional as all heck. Great reaction, Jen. We hope eventually you'll start watching the TNG show and continue the Star Trek movies. Good work!
For someone so fresh to the Star Trek universe, you really get it. Your reactions underline how right the film makers got this. I have been watching Trek (amongst many other Science Fiction franchises) since the early 1970s so have grown up with the characters, what happens to them affects me, like so many people, I feel like I know them. It was so good on this particular film that the producers, writers and director really understood the characters, their history together, their personalities and made a fitting send-off for them as the last time together as a crew, definitely up there as one of the best of the six films made with the original cast (2 and 4 are my other top Trek films and I do really enjoy the first of one, it just has a different vibe from the others so I consider it almost a stand alone film). Thanks for coming along on the ride, I will be seeking out more from your channel.
I love how much VI holds up as a finale but also a tense political submarine (basically) thriller! So good!
Jen gets and A+ for this one. Last of the films from the original crew! Enjoy! This was a good finale!
I had the ST6 soundtrack on CD as a kid and basically wore it out. The music was so good. One of my favorite movies!
CD I had it on tape casette for years lol
So in case you are not a student of history, this movie is essentially the end of the Cold War in space.
When pitching this film, Lenard Nimoy . Wanted this to be about the end of the “Fall of the Berlin wall in space.” he was so hooked on this movie that in order to do the proposed episode of the next generation, he only do it if he were allowed to advertise this movie during that episode, turns out it was called reunification, and it’s about the proposed union of the Romulans and the Vulcans back as a single species again.
Praxis is the Klingon main energy facility. This is a direct allegory for the incident at Chernobyl 1986.
Chancellor Gorkon is an allegory for general secretary, Gorbachev. Whom was a game changer in the Cold War.
Another historical reference is Admiral North played by Future Star Trek Star René Auberjonois. He is an allegory to General West of the Contra affair.
Rura Penthe is an obvious play at the Siberian Gulags/concentration camps.
The plot of the movie itself is actually based on a hypothetical World War III scenario where the Soviet union murders Gorbachev.
The role of Valeris was originally intended for Saavik. Christy Alley refused the role because she felt the script did not fit her character. It is my opinion that if the cut material for Wrath of Khan and Search for Spock stayed. Like her being half Romulan and the romance with David it would give a sorta duality to the piece.
“He did say that, but it wasn’t an order” 🤣 that made me laugh so loudly
Thank you so much for reacting to the Star Trek original films. You did a great job. Fun fact: The Executive Producer on "Star Trek 6" was Spock himself Leonard Nimoy.
The compassionate Federation president was played by Kurtwood Smith, who also played the bad guy , Clarence Bodicker, in Robocop, as well as Red Forman, the grumpy, dad, on That 70's Show. ❤ 😊
The funny thing is... his species is an off shoot of the Klingons, kinda like the Romulans and Vulcan split in a historical sense. Although its more that the species was subjugated by the Klingons in their early history and like the Romulans and the Remans, some of the genes drifted between them which is behind their similarity.
Kirkwood Smith would play another alien in a later Star Trek show. He would play the Krenim scientist Annorax in the Star Trek: Voyager Season 4 2-parter 'The Year of Hell'.
As someone who never watched the original series, and only seen the fourth movie when I was young, I can say I'm really going to miss your reactions to the OG crew's adventures.... Live long and Prosper!
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Jen, you are one of the few reactors whom I have actually seen evolve into a true fan. If there was any doubts after watching your journey thru the original crew, it was put to rest in this movie. Not only can we see your sheer enjoyment in watching, but you show that attachment to the characters, you could see your concern, even for the 8th Character herself, the Enterprise. Glad to have you as a fan and friend of Star Trek. Live Long and Prosper!
For the most part it seems reactors appreciate the same movies for the same reasons and understand 'why' they get requested to watch. But being a fan - you wouldn't fake that. I usually look for merchandise being worn during viewings of _other_ content as a fast indicator.
The reason for Star Treks success is it has heart. Thank you for sharing this part of your Star Trek journey with us. #LLAP 🖖 Jen.
First, I am amazingly happy you are going to continue with TNG. You are about to experience a much more comprehensive view of the Star Trek universe. I actually appreciate that you didn't trust the Klingons initially. It gave Star Trek its chance to once again teach its greatest lesson. Overcoming division and prejudice to create a better life for all. A message that is all the more relevant given recent events. Just know that the new crew will be just as amazing as the one you're leaving behind.
The defence lawyer is Michael Dorn whom became Worf on the Next Generation
In the story that is Worfs grandfather
I saw this in theatres when it came out. That year Paramount still owned the local big amusement park, Canada's Wonderland. There were special exhibits, and the score was playing over the speakers throughout the park. Went with all my high school fellow nerds and had a fantastic time. A key memory of my adolescence was getting lost in the music from the final 'Sign Off' sequence, watching the water fountain and light show as the park closed that night. That track is utterly ingrained in my brain, and still gives me chills every single time.
So good. Yes, these characters were like an extension of family to me having grown up watching and loving them in TOS and then through all their movies. Saw this one twice on opening day. Such a great send off.
I'm with you, the score for this movie was indeed exceptional. It really enhanced the intensity and emotions of the story. I also love how quickly you fell in love with the crew. They are legendary for sure. But ... If you'll continue on to The Next Generation to find a whole new and wonderful crew to fall in love with just as much. You may even see some of this crew again, if you continue on. 😉 This movie, Directed by Nicholas Meyer, as a mystery is an extension of Mr. Meyer's early writing career. He wrote a handful of Sherlock Holmes novels. I got them a few years ago and after reading them I saw his style at work in this movie. It's one of the reasons this is, for me, my favorite of the Original Series movies. My favorite line is from Spock "What we need now is a feat of linguistic legerdemain and a degree of intrepidity..." translation "What we need now is a lot of bullsh*t and a little luck." 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣. Love it! Spock is the man! I saw this in the theaters with a group of friends. Our reaction was the same, satisfaction and a few tears. I grew up with this crew. I watched the shows and movies and even read all the novels up to this time. The sign off left me choked up and feeling a loss of friends I grew up with. Fortunately, the loss was temporary only. If you keep going you'll see what I mean.
Yes, it means a lot to us oldies who grew up with Star Trek. By the end of your video I was sobbing my silly heart out. So many excellent actors in this one including the baddies from Tron (David Warner) and Robocop (Kurtwood Smith). For one final blast of nostalgia Jen, I highly recommend a song called Star Trekking by The Firm, which is full of famous catch phrases that were never actually said. Thanks as always for your channel. xx
And RoboCop himself would eventually be in a Star Trek film.
@@ninjabluefyre3815 Indeed! No spoilers for Jen though.
Lots of people love Wrath of Khan, lots of people love Voyage Home, but the Undiscovered Country is by far my favorite! ...and yes Jen, this score rocks!
The concept for the story was inspired by the Chernobyl nuclear disaster and the effects it had on the Soviet Union, with Praxis being a proxy for Chernobyl and Gorkon for Mikhail Gorbachev.
Christian Slater's mother was the casting director for this movie - so he was a nepo hire, lol.
Ironic. The Soviets took more responsibility for Chernobyl than the US and China have so far taken for COVID.
This one is special to me as it was the first movie I ever saw in the movie theater. Great reaction!
One of the original ideas for this movie was that Saavik would be the traitor, lending greater impact to her character's betrayal. Gene Roddenberry objected to this and it was changed to a new character, Valeris.
G.Roddenberry also died before film was released. He objected to several aspects, written from script - and seeing a cut of the film, before his death in ‘91. He was older and I’ll, not actively involved in production - yet, as the creator, he had opinions until the end 🖖
Yeah, Myers was pissed about it because he created the character Saavik. I'm glad they didn't use her, I like her too much. It would be hard for me to watch this if she was the traitor.
It would have been really sad to have Saavik be a traitor but Valeris is almost too obviously suspect. Jenn is not the first person on TH-cam I've seen immediately guess her involvement.
I feel that gene missed the mark on that decision. But then, he had a weasel of a lawyer who was making the first season of TNG really struggle. It could have been his venom behind that choice.
Awesome reactions from Jen and a beautiful way for the original Star Trek crew to sign off.
And what a great story to end on.
Star Trek VI was the first film I ever remember seeing at the cinema, when I was 8 years old.
and the end credits with the signatures make me well up a bit, thirty-two years later...even if the 'printed' credits did spell Cdr. Uhura's name incorrectly.
Same with me. I was 7. It's the first movie I can remember seeing in theaters. My dad took me
Have a cold so watching this all snuggled up in my duvet , feeling rubbish but know this will make me feel better 🎉 super excited for generations and first contact when we get there 👌🍿 as always big thankyou to Jen for another week of great content
This is my favorite Trek movie. Seeing the characters grow and complete their arcs was amazing. This movie came out right at the fall of the Berlin Wall, so the parallel between Klingons and Russians was evident. The music was amazing,, I sometimes listen to it while working. Your reaction was great. You are a true Trek fan. I am looking forward to your reactions to TNG. There are lots of good episodes there.
Merritt Butrick, who played Kirk’s son, died at age 29, 2 years before this film was released at only 29. He died from AIDS related complications. Nicholas Meyer, who also directed ‘Wrath of Khan’ which introduced the character, stated that not only was the moment in which Kirk acknowledges his son’s death and places his photo frame on the table important to convey Kirk’s character motivations to the audience, but important as a tribute to Merritt who was taken far too young.
Star Trek: The next generation had already started by the time they were filming this movie, so Michael Dorn (Worf) from Next Gen was given a little cameo in this playing his character's grandfather. The lawyer who defends kirk and Bones in the Klingon trial. Yes that was Christian Slater in a cameo as a minor crewmember on Sulu's ship. He's apparently a huge Star Trek fan, and his mom was apparently doing the casting for this film, so he got himself a cameo so he could be in the last classic Trek film.
Before this came out, there was a rumor that Kirk was going to die. In the trailers, they showed the clip of the shapeshifter looking like Kirk getting vaporized, so I (and others) went into this movie thinking Kirk was going to die. Also, christian slater's mom was in charge of casting for this film, so she got him a cameo. Make sure to watch The Next Generation before watching the next movie, as they mix the crews in it, so it's good to know the Next Generation crew.
Jen nailed it in her epilogue. I'm one the people who grew up watching Classic Trek. One of my earliest memories is watching Trek with my grandma when Trek first ran on TV. I even remember watching the episode "Obsession" and trying to make an Enterprise out of my Tinker Toys while watching it. It wasnt until watching a rerun in the 70s that I realized it was "Obsession"😃. And I'll admit that as a grown man watching this film in the theater, I cried at the end 🤫
Hey Hey there Admiral Jen Murray. Absolutely love this movie. The beautiful redhead crewman in the background on the bridge of the enterprise also did stunt work in other productions. Unfortunately she is no longer living. Always LOVE your reactions.Hope you have a perfect weekend. 😉👌
Christian Slater is a big Star Trek fan, so he asked his mom, who was the movie's casting diectior, to pull some strings to get him a cameo on the movie! ❤️ 😊
Jen, your ST reactions have been amazing. I've seen each of these a dozen times, some more, and you made them feel new again. Thank you for being you.
It's been fun watching all of these with you! My mom was an original Trekkie and I grew up watching the OG series and the movies. I actually saw this one in the theater with her, and it remains one of my favorites. Thanks for the reactions, and live long and prosper! \\//
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I also was a original Trekkie and was 10 years old when the series ended, as I aged so did the crew. Seeing this in the theater was the end of a era.
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Note that the Klingon Ambassador at 13:04 is played by John Schuck who also played the Kilngon Ambassador who was trying to extradite Kirk at the beginning of ST IV The Journey Home.
This is a epic movie! Great special effects and the ship battles stood out. The acting plus the quotes were interesting. The way they said goodbye was iconic.
I've absolutely loved all your TOS reactions! So happy you're continuing on to TNG, and hopefully beyond!
Just knew you would react to the theme music in such a way. Love how it tells it's serious this time. This certainly is memorable sendoff for Kirk and his crew.
'What kind of Captain is Sulu?' IMHO as a military historian one of the best representations of a competent naval Captain in ST. I have been watching since the Rabbit Ears were wrapped in tinfoil to haul in the weaker UHF signal for the reruns in the 1970's. If I had to pick a person for the center chair he would be it. Just a shame he got so little time in THAT role.
It's hilarious that the Bird of Prey was the biggest parker ever. If you don't understand what a parker is, it is a player that literally parks in one spot shooting the enemy, they usually ends up just like the BoP😂.
A pretty solid finale to the OG crew in the movies side of things. Now you gotta watch the next generation
Starting TNG on Patreon tonight!
@@jenmurrayxo I would advise doing some of the TV first before the movies, the TV has 7 seasons, so a boat load of ep's, and it took a little while to get going, so I would start with some of the best from season 3 onward
@@jenmurrayxo Make it so.
Star Trek The Next Generation might be my fav, a toss up between it and DS9-But the Original series had more solid movies. Only the first two STTNG movies were good.
@@jenmurrayxoJust gotta say. Don’t pass judgement on TNG due to the first season. Heheh. It’s the weakest season of what became a great series.
I love your reactions; they are so enjoyable. This movie was released to coincide with the series 25th anniversary and it was a fitting end to the original crew. By the way, The Voyage Home was timed for the 20th anniversary.
Thank you for watching all of these! I love to see people discover and enjoy Trek!
The novelization makes several parts of the movie make alot more sense. First, the chancellor fully expected to be assassinated given his political views, he just didn't know when or by who, but strongly suspected chang, which is one of the reasons he calls out trying to find him during the attack. He also knew kirk was not involved in the assassination because he recognized the type of phaser used in the attack was a particularly destructive one that was banned and wouldn't have been available on the enterprise. The klingon guards who communicated with the enterprise when they were trying to cross the border didn't believe what they were told at all, knew they weren't a klingon ship and assumed they were smugglers, using an old dialect of klingon. The don't catch any bugs stuff was a hint to them not to get caught smuggling. Its also brought up that everyone involved was under the influence of a group of telepaths pushing them to carry out the assassination as part of a romulan plot to provoke a war they would benefit from
4:50 Saavik was to have reprised her role in Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country, but was replaced with Valeris, reportedly because Gene Roddenberry was concerned that fans had become so fond of Saavik that they would react negatively to her turning out to be a traitor. In addition, no one wanted to have to cast a third actress to play the same role: Kirstie Alley had declined to return, and Nicholas Meyer was not a fan of Robin Curtis's portrayal.
It was rare when it happened, but my entire family -- even my dad, who was not really a movie person -- went to see this on opening night. It was an amazing experience. The entire audience was so into it. There was laughter, applause, cheering when the bad guys blew up and when Scotty got the sniper. It was truly a memorable experience to be with the original crew for their last adventure on that Friday night, December 6, 1991. Like Star Trek III and IV, this movie had a more ensemble feel, with every character getting to do something interesting on screen. Probably my favorite of the Star Trek movies! Your reaction to these is fantastic!
I saw it went it first came out too!!!! Praxis exploding made me jump lol! Do you remember if they're were scenes or bits in the theater premiere that weren't on tape later on? I have a the directors cut on DVD and one example is that when the sniper at the end is shot by Scotty and falls to the floor you hear word say "this is not Klingon blood" and they remove the Klingon mask to reveal a starfleet officer was the sniper. I seem to remember that worf line was in the movie in the theater. Do you?
There were some extra scenes included in some DVD copies like what you described. Also a scene where Scotty makes a derogatory comment about Azetbur. I think it was a director's cut that was released some time after the theatrical cut.@@DrummingWriterTrekfan84
In the original series the Klingons were always meant to be stand ins for the Soviets and this movie is meant to be Star Trek's end to the cold war (the cold war was ending as the film was being made and the USSR dissolved the same month it came out). Its my favorite Trek movie bar none.
Love your commentary, as always. I find it particularly enjoyable how you will notice things about the scores of movies during your first viewing that I never noticed no matter how many times I have watched.
One of the best star trek's ever made, the iconic Shakespeare being quoted throughout a Klingon battle with the federation by the majestic Christopher Plummer coupled with the iconic introduction to Rura Penthe prison and the ending speech by Captain James T Kirk, "It's about the future, Madam Chancellor,” “Some people think the future means the end of history. But we haven't run out of history just yet. Your father called the future 'the undiscovered country.
“Are they about to pon far.” 😂😂 Jen got Star Trek jokes, we approve.
As it happens Spock waited for her to give permission before he entered her mind. And that part where she was screaming was him sharing with her his experience with death and how it affected him. Once again highly recommend the book.
It gives the impression consciousness is like an onion which gets peeled back on both ends of the activity.
Jen, this is the best way to start off my weekend. I got home from work and noticed you posted this reaction, and it did not disappoint. I'm so glad you enjoyed this.
OMG this journey you're on with TREK has made me soooo happy. At the time of this movie , it had been a quarter of a century they'd been our crew of the Enterprise.....as the original trailer for this movie pointed out. This was a reflection of the US vs Russia conflict of the time.
Jen this movie is a big wink to Canada. William Shatner & Christopher Plummer both Canadian in their early days played at the Stratford Shakespeare Festival. Shatner was Plummer's understudy and one night Plummer was sick giving Shatner his big break. So when they were spouting Skakespeare to each other it was a wink to the festival.
Jen, it has been a great joy, getting to relive these movies with you. I watched and enjoyed the show since it first aired in 1966, and I am mostly pleased with the movies. Even my least favorite, #5, is salvaged by the great line "What does God need with a starship?" The Cold War between the USA and what used to be the Soviet Union was drawing to a close, the USSR officially dissolving at the end of 1991. The Klingons had always been stand-ins, in a way, for the Soviets, so come 1989 it seemed natural to tell a story about changing relations between the Federation and the Klingons. The "Praxis" incident which literally started our story off with a bang was a kind of tribute to Chernobyl. You're right, our gallant crew deserved a great sendoff and they got it. I like to think that this was, for its time, a kind of equivalent of Avengers: Endgame. Thanks!
I believe you're correct about the Klingons being stand-ins for the Soviets, and about Praxis. Further, I believe that the Vulcans were intended to represent the Japanese, and the Romulans represented Communist China. In my view, Star Trek has always been a veiled story about geopolitical tensions in the world in the current time or recent past. And might I say, you're one of the very few people I have seen make that observation.
Wow, Star Trek VI… we’ve got here so soon! I feel almost sad that Jen has reached this point so quickly, but it’s been a fun ride and I love how much she’s fallen in love with our heroes. This movie really was a cracking send-off for our crew, too, thought it’s not without its flaws. Like, how come Martia’s clothes change shape when she does, and why does her voice only change when she mimics Kirk?! 😁
The movie was pretty much the brainchild of Leonard Nimoy and Nicholas Meyer, and was a very direct allegory on the state of relations between the US and Russia at the time. There are many references to real events, such as the Praxis explosion, which was inspired by the Chernobyl disaster. That event pretty much crippled the Soviet economy and opened the door to reform, and so we a Klingon character based on Gorbachev - the moderate reformer Chancellor Gorkon (who was physically modelled on Abraham Lincoln). Also, most of the extreme views held by Starfleet officials and Klingons (“Conquer them now while they’re weak” vs “Attack now while we still have the strength”) were views that were held by extremists in the military of both the US and Russia, who couldn’t handle the sudden transition to peace.
Gene Roddenberry (who had been pretty much frozen out of the film series since the Motion Picture) really didn’t like the overly militaristic and intolerant vibes that Nimoy and Meyer put in the film, because he had always said that humanity would’ve evolved past such concerns by the time of Star Trek. However, one of the great strengths of science fiction is that it allows us to examine modern issues at one remove, so while the story might not be 100% true to Star Trek, it was a good opportunity to explore what was going on in the world at the time and tie up some of the issues that had arisen during the films.
As for the movie itself, it lacks the polish that Meyer’s other involvements with the franchise had. The political commentary is quite heavy-handed, the dialogue somewhat on-the-nose and Meyer’s use of literature quotations gets a bit out of hand at times… but all that doesn’t really matter because the Star Trek charm is present in full force, each character gets a moment and Christopher Plummer is chewing scenery in a delightful fashion! As swan songs go, it’s a pretty damn good one!
Final obligatory fun fact: Originally, it was Sulu and his crew that were supposed to figure out how to beat Chang, which is why at the beginning of the film we hear about how the Excelsior had been charting gaseous anomalies: it was the ship that was carrying the equipment necessary to sniff out Chang’s cloaks Bird Of Prey, and they would’ve retrofitted the torpedo… but Shatner thought that it should be the Enterprise crew that figured it out, so it was switched. All in all I agree with Shatner.
I can't help but imagine some Admiral's girlfriend watching a documentary on gaseous anomalies and getting equipment to detect them put onto every ship in the fleet 😂
JEN: The great David Warner was also in Star Trek 5 as the Federation representative. He is also in the cool sci-fi movie: WING COMMANDER (The movie with the greatest sci-fi music score of all time!)
Kirk and McCoy’s Klingon lawyer is played by Michael Dorn who plays Worf on The Next Generation. This character is Worf’s grandfather, also named Worf.
I so love that you know Kim Cattrall from Big Trouble in Little China, and not from Sex in the City!
This movie came out when I was a kid and it's been my favorite Star Trek movie to this day. I've always loved the familiar interactions between the crew to where they might frustrate the hell out of each other but they still know where they stand.
Gene Roddenberry died on October 24, 1991... 6 weeks before the release of the film on December 6. He did, however, get a private screening of the film in September or early October at the latest before his death.