Hey Bernardo, I am new to jiu jitsu, I've been doing it for some months now, and I am not super athletic, but I go to both night and day class, the day class has less people, so we start from standing. Pull guarding is something I understand and I use when I fail at doing a take down. However, I have been coming back here to try and actually pull off these techniques when we roll. In my mind it will be like, let me try osoto gari, uchi gari, etc... and then it doesn't work, I pull guard just because I don't want to give advantage to the other player. Any tips? Sorry for the long comment, what is happening, in my gym specific, there are a number of people who have wrestling background, and when we roll, if I don't get in that quick guard pull, then they are completely steam rolling me.
Hey Professor Bernardo, Hey Professor John, The takedown you demonstrated at 34:44 I have been successfully hitting when starting from the standing position in my recent sparring sessions, landed it against the purple belt coach, landed it against a lot of the other white belts! It is so deceptively simple yet effective! Thank you so much!
I Think takedown Is the base of our martial art. Pulling guard doesn't teach you how to defend yourself and it'okay for sport Jiu jitsu scenarios but Life Is not a sport competition and a true martial artist must have the skills to defend himself and to fight for his own Life. Going directly for pull guard Is absolutely a shame and a huge sin for everyone because you Will miss a huge part of the game
Here you have the names of the throws they executed 1.- Tai otoshi 6:03 2.- Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi 7:15 3.- Kibisu Gaeshi 7:31 4.- Morote Gari 13:47 5.- Something like Koshi Guruma 16:23 6.- O Goshi 17:47 7.- Uki Goshi (makikomi style) 18:45 8.- 20:36 kneeling Tai Otoshi 9.- 21:07 O Soto Gake 10.- Kibisu Gaeshi 22:01 11.- Good ol' O Soto Gari 25:00 12.- O Uchi Gari 26:30 13.- O Soto Gake 30:32 Cheers from a Judo practitioner!
6 criteria to judge how appropriate a takedown is for BJJ: 1) Back exposure 2) Neck exposure 3) Belt Exposure 4) Weight Exposure 5) Roll-through Potential 6) General Difficulty
As a judoka, I respect how he didn't disparage the techniques as a whole, but rather how they fit into the ruleset and how that affects the reasons for their use. In doing so, he made it more clear why Jiu Jitsu differs, rather than just how.
Danaher has an incredible talent to do impersonation. That impersonation of Bernardo Faria was on point. He also did a very funny impersonation of GSP on Lex Fridman's podcast. I want to see more from Danaher!
For all intents and purposes, it should have been categorized much earlier. It seems almost archaic to have so many great BJJ athletes, but none of them could figure out how to succinctly present problems and find solutions like JD does
He did a PhD in analytic philosophy. You can tell from the way he break things down to common elements, necessary and sufficient conditions and criteria, and counter examples
@@tico5546 Absolutely. I often think of John Danaher as a clear example of how the skills analytic philosophy can be applied to bring practical benefits "in the real world". If only there were more of that emphasis on clarity and precision in other areas of life/society...
I really enjoy the more relaxed John Danaher instead of the hyper focused teacher. He has such a warm personality that doesn't always show and makes it sometimes harder to keep focus on.
I am thinking about signing up for the RGA in Midtown. Once they reopen. How is the training? Does Mr. Danaher, cover self defense techniques in his class? And are takedowns covered liked in this video? Osu!
@@stur6722 I dont think you can Just participate in one of Danahers classes he trains all day with the best of the world. But Im sure its a great school and there will be many great teachers and yes Gracie schools ussually Focus a lot on self defense especially in the beginning
Christoph Steck thank you. Yes. I know. I am in New York City. There is a Gracie jujitsu school. And there are a few Renzo Gracie academy’s. I know the advice jujitsu classes are taught by Danaher. That’s blue belt and up. Renzo teaches the advice classes sometimes. When th wrote your comment. I understood you took a class with. And was a student at the RGA headquarters in midtown Manhattan. Osu!
Take my money already! Your other series have been very helpful in my development, it is always a pleasure - and an honor - to have access to the distilled knowledge that brilliant minds acquired over decades.
I’m not sure which is more impressive.. the fact that Mr Danaher was able to do all those techniques without being winded and sounding out of breath while explaining them.. or that he was able to do them so smoothly like he competes… a true master of his craft
John is a mad scientist. I love it! I'm positive that if he puts his mind to it there will be massive improvements to bjj take down game, which is needed.
Must have watch that first five seconds twenty times. Still laugh out loud. John is a great mimic, and Bernardo is a very good sport. So good to be able to laugh when we are going through tough times. Thank you John and Bernardo. Oss.
Absolutely People with similar door experience and much less martial arts acumen have gone on to become authorities. A John Danaher perspective on self-protection would be invaluable.
I opened this into another Chrome tab and asked myself: "Why the hell is Faria introducing himself and inviting himself???" 😂 Took the images to figure it out
Great stuff. I agree with John's recommendation that ankle picks and collar drags are excellent takedowns to start with, but I think the discussion can be expanded. Empirically, single legs (and double legs to an extent) are the most common takedowns at the competitive black belt level. So even though they have higher risk based on John's six criteria, they are the most effective at the highest level. Singles and doubles are also the most common takedowns (by far) at the freestyle wrestling world championships where people are a lot better at not getting taken down, and the most common takedowns in high-level MMA. So if you are a BJJ competitor and want to "future proof" your takedown game, it would make sense to start practicing those as well, even though it may take a little while to get proficient at them. That said, if the goal is to start taking down people quickly as John mentions, the relatively low emphasis in BJJ on takedowns means that you can go pretty far in this sport doing lower risk techniques like ankle picks and collar drags. Ankle picks, at least in wrestling, tend to be somewhat body-type dependent and thought of as best for long lanky types (see Cael Sanderson and David Taylor). Will be curious if John addresses this in the instructionals. I would add arm drags, throw bys, and snapdowns to the list that do well using John's six criteria. But in truth, if you have any proficiency in one or two techniques, you will have a significant advantage compared to the average current BJJer.
I'm not disagreeing that single and double legs are the most effective takedowns, they very well might be and are my favourite ones in no-gi, but their use at the highest levels isn't necessarily evidence for such. Techniques and strategies change constantly, so what's currently in use isn't necessarily the best practice, just the best so far. It's entirely possible that they're the most common techniques because a lot of BJJ practitioners have learned their wrestling from wrestlers, so they learned what wrestlers think are best, then got really good at those takedowns and used primarily those in competition. It's possible that the takedowns John's suggesting are actually better for BJJ but aren't used because BJJ guys haven't put as much emphasis on them, therefore are not as proficient at them, thus don't use them as much in competition. All that being said, I still think single/double leg takedowns are great, but I also know that I know next to nothing about BJJ next to the guys at the top levels of the sport.
Also single legs and double legs are the most countered takedowns in the sport of jiu jitsu apart from being the most successful (and perhaps wrestling), thus making them risky for back exposure and neck exposure, therefore you must factor in your proficiency, but he is going to teach them, I want to hear his take on this. My guess is that apart from a basic and fundamental knowledge in the execution of singles or doubles, the next important thing is your opponents reaction and kuzushi, a opponent recovery from a immediate previous attack or a opponent regain balance inherently doesn't have the mechanical advantage to move, thus it mitigates his ability to counter, add that to proper drive and posture and angle and the odd are in your favor. I'm excited to see him discuss doubles and singles in particular knows he coached GSP.
@@beefburito Well said, man! There is definitely lots of room for technical developments and even possibly some innovations in the future when it comes to BJJ takedowns. And I look forward to it! That said, double legs and single legs have proven themselves over a century+ of grappling across both submission-based and pin-based disciplines. So even if other BJJ takedown techniques rise in prominence in the future, it's a safe bet that doubles and singles will still be very viable right alongside them. So a person doesn't have to worry about investing time only for those techniques ending up being "niche" or "outdated". And you don't have to worry about them losing effectiveness as you move up the ranks. That's what I mean by "future-proofing" your takedown game. BTW, I rarely shoot double legs myself for the very reasons Danaher mentions (still like single legs, though!). And for my purposes, I can usually succeed using lower-risk and frankly lower-exertion options. But even though I don't use doubles much, I recognize their effectiveness, especially at the highest level.
@@oscararielrestomunoz3910 That's a very good point. It is another reason why I rarely shoot double legs despite having a wrestling background. The average BJJer doesn't have good takedown defense, but they will at least know how to sprawl okay. So you can exploit their lack of knowledge by going for other techniques. But when there are no longer obvious defensive holes to exploit, as is the case with high-level opponents, then it comes down to whose technique and execution is strongest. And when the offensive player becomes skilled enough to minimize back/neck/belt/rolling/weight exposure, then the pendulum often swings back to making doubles and singles good options. Not the only options, but good options. Even at black belt worlds. I agree, Oscar: I also want to hear John's take on these popular takedown techniques. I definitely think that there are BJJ-specific adaptations to the classic single leg and double leg. For instance, in the gi, being able to grab my own collar when I shoot a single is pretty significant. And I know there are BJJ-specific setups that don't exist in wrestling--for example the fake guard-pull into a shot attempt. Looking forward to seeing what he has to share.
Singles and doubles are without a doubt the most prominent takedowns in combat sports. However, this means that the literature on defensive measures has been extensively developed. In high level MMA, it is not uncommon to see a Jiu Jitsu practioner fail in getting their opponent to the ground. Mia vs Usman is a perfect example. Mia shot on Usman repeatedly and got stuffed over and over in addition to eating strikes on the way in and on the way out. Mia was so desperate to grapple he even pulled guard, which unsurprisingly didn't work. All that to say, because of the effectiveness of singles and doubles, they become increasingly harder to complete at higher levels at which the defense has been devoloped. Specifically for MMA, I think wall/cage based takedowns will become more and more prominent, and for a Jiu Jitsu practioner in MMA, cage based takedowns are the best option currently in my opinion. The "rules" of takedown defense are different when you have your back against the wall, an Olympic wrestler will typically have decades of takedown defense training in an open area. Put their back against the cage, now how do they sprawl? Of course wall based grappling has no application in sport bjj, but I believe that any BJJ athlete who wants to make their way into MMA should focus on the skillset of wall based grappling and takedowns. The wall is a great equalizer for grapplers.
I watched this video last night and when I went to train this morning I literally got ankle picks from every where on the mat very effective my go to takedown now love it John Danaher puts things in a way that makes moves more easier. Love it!
Total BJJ newbie here - been on 2 sessions, and man I feelt right at home! So happy I found this chanel. Will surely watch everything he shows. Seems like the perfect teacher 🙂🙏
This was great. I started in judo and takedowns are exactly like you said. The romantic classical technique is a long term commitment. The ankle pick is perfect. I also noticed the quick and decisive movement to connect to the Uke
As a long time judo player I really appreciate this. There is nothing I'd take out and if I'd have watched this years ago it might have changed a little how I taught children. The one thing I would add that isn't got on here is that many of these higher risk techniques profit from a shock value when landed. We used to call it the 'your second' meaning you have a split second where your opponent is hurt/frustrated/winded/discombobulated for you to gain a positional advantage. The safer techniques in which someone is pushed to the floor don't cause that. But of course you have to learn so much timing for the big moves and I agree it isn't worth the time cost when there is so much else to take in.
The sound in this video is amazing, every grip, transition, throw and fall feels loud, impactful and visceral. It's like i'm listing to an action movie.
Another great video by 2 of the best. Faria, a many time world champion and the most humble human I know, and the other guy, Danaher, who knows more about bjj than any other human and can explain and teach better that anyone else. Notice how Faria studies every word that John says.
Finally, someone comes along and points out the good and bad of Judo and Wrestling techniques and criteria to use them in a BJJ tournament. This is very practical stuff for ANY type of fighting. My only question, why did it take so many years to bring this out?
This video series sounds amazing. This is exactly what I need. Im sure that I am one of Johns target demographics. I started grappling at an MMA gym, the coach was big and not very knowledgeable. Whenever I tried to wrestle I got sprawled on endlessly and ended up on bottom. No one had any advice for me and I got tired of trying to dig myself out from a hole against bigger and stronger guys. Eventually I stopped shooting, and limited myself to a few safe takedowns like ankle picks and fireman's carry. I developed a decent guard and became dangerous from the bottom and working from the top as well. But my standing game has not developed that much. I have invested some time in Judo and throws, but there are so many and no one to show which really work in BJJ (nogi specifically). The stand up game is so vast and complex, there are no clear systems and it is so hard to know where to begin and where to Invest your time. Add on top of that, that the standing game seems more like a physical grind than the beauty and complexity of the ground game... additionally (to me) you increase the odds that you will get injured significantly. I am so looking forward to some clear and systematic approaches to the standing situation from Professor Danaher.
Tyler, I was fortunate watch the filming of the Feet to Floor series. The reason he is making this series is to get the whole BJJ Community at least competent in the standing position, in a reasonable amount of time. It is not just about one or two moves we need a broader view. Professor Dahaner lays down a clear path to followed. Many of us have been committed to training but did not have a long term development plan needed to develop the skills. This series will fix that for sure!
There very much is a beautiful & calculating stand-up game; I only started to really explore & appreciate it about 10 years into my training. Right place, right people, right time. It's going to be very hard for somebody that big & strong to teach you something he's never going to need/understand. Another highly highly underrated series to compliment this is the takedown passport by Bekzod Abdurakhimov. Best of luck my friend, enjoy the journey, make those many many errors & you'll get closer to your "ah-haaa!" Moments!
In Judo, my bread and butter was tai otoshi. John does a perfect demonstration and explanation of what I’ve seen with my successful and failed throws with a renewed clarity.
From a Bjj practioner this video help me a lot, using the techinques that John says I improved a lot my standing game , John it's an amazing teacher, it's like Sun Tzu from the Art of War thanks so much Bernarndo and John for these amazing contenents!
John is right that some moves taught to beginners, just won't work against trained opponents. Sparring/live rolling is a good way to test out those methods, and see if they actually hold up.
YES!!! I've really wanted to focus on takedowns during Covid because honestly.....mine sucks. I can not wait to get this series and I DEFINITELY am interested in the self-defense series! That is definitely what I'm most focused on during my journey. The tournament stuff is cool but I'm a five-foot female that wants to be able to handle herself during a god forbid situation.
OMG I’ve only take. One class in Bjj and I’m learning so much from your videos because you have invited these legends. Thank you so much. It helps that I’ve studied Kung Fu for years now even though I’m out of shape I can do the basic moves. I learned so much here
My first love is Judo, it's a beautiful sport that gets no love. I'm glad that you are using proper Judo names for your throws and not making up names like 10th planet does. I do believe that both Arts Judo and BJJ should be studied to be a well rounded grappler. Thank you for your wonderful videos.
I just did 28:56 collar drag today in sparring and it worked. Granted I had to sell other feints, and attempts etc. But it worked, and was my first ever collar drag with gi. It wasn't as pretty, but it worked and I was able to immediately get side control.
I find interesting that the throws John categorizes as best for jiujitsu are considered some of the highest difficulty throws in judo particularly the foot sweeps, sacrifice throws, and long-distance hip sweeps.
Thanks for constant uplaod Jui Jitsu Family ! ouch brother i shattered my toe last year get well soon ! doing jui jitsu now a year later ...dedication discipline respect much love 💚💪🏽🙏🏽
This is so true. I’m a blue belt just getting back since covid and I was talking to a fellow blue belt while doing take down drills and we both said we don’t like standing. Lol. I’m usually a guard guy but seeing this video I’m going to start standing when sparring from now on As much as possible. This is something that needs to be address thanks 🙏
As usual, tons of crucial ideas! Also, if I wasn't hyped enough for this series, Danaher is giving us a sneak peek on his take on self defense. My poor wallet
Always interesting to see how the different point scoring aspects of judo vs. ju-jitsu drive tactics. Danaher has excellent knowledge of both and appreciates how different throws lead to different scenarios and point scoring possibilities for both tori and uke. Plus in his analysis of how to "short cut" the learning process of O-Soto-Gari and arrive at a randori-effective technique he demonstrates a lot more tactical awareness and appreciation of how students actually learn effective technique than many judo coaches. In my coaching I've largely discarded static uchi-komi with 50/50 grips for this reason. My drilling is largely grip break/movement/entry/throw based now.
I wasnt watching the intro because I was glancing at other vids and I thought it was Bernado until I heard him said "I'm here with my friend, Bernado…" I got confused and took a look and lo-and-behold, John Danaher is the one having the most impressive impression I've ever seen of anyone. Amazing shit.
Do you normally go for takedowns? Or pull guard?
Hey Bernardo, I am new to jiu jitsu, I've been doing it for some months now, and I am not super athletic, but I go to both night and day class, the day class has less people, so we start from standing. Pull guarding is something I understand and I use when I fail at doing a take down. However, I have been coming back here to try and actually pull off these techniques when we roll. In my mind it will be like, let me try osoto gari, uchi gari, etc... and then it doesn't work, I pull guard just because I don't want to give advantage to the other player. Any tips? Sorry for the long comment, what is happening, in my gym specific, there are a number of people who have wrestling background, and when we roll, if I don't get in that quick guard pull, then they are completely steam rolling me.
Hey Professor Bernardo, Hey Professor John, The takedown you demonstrated at 34:44 I have been successfully hitting when starting from the standing position in my recent sparring sessions, landed it against the purple belt coach, landed it against a lot of the other white belts! It is so deceptively simple yet effective! Thank you so much!
I Think takedown Is the base of our martial art. Pulling guard doesn't teach you how to defend yourself and it'okay for sport Jiu jitsu scenarios but Life Is not a sport competition and a true martial artist must have the skills to defend himself and to fight for his own Life. Going directly for pull guard Is absolutely a shame and a huge sin for everyone because you Will miss a huge part of the game
First 5 seconds is the best 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Yeh, I agree. I was doing something else for the first five seconds, and I thought it was the real Bernado. Lol.
Sounded like a Brazilian Arnold lol
totaly funny!!!
Amazing!
watched it like 10 times haha
That intro was so good xD
I thought it was going to be an ordinary day - and then this dropped.
I thought there was some sort of delay on my audio 😂😂😂
I thought there was some sort of delay on my audio 😂😂😂
I thought my computer was buffering....
Tan serio que se ve Danaher y anda de imitador, jajajjaaj no mmmmsssssssssssss
Here you have the names of the throws they executed
1.- Tai otoshi 6:03
2.- Sasae Tsurikomi Ashi 7:15
3.- Kibisu Gaeshi 7:31
4.- Morote Gari 13:47
5.- Something like Koshi Guruma 16:23
6.- O Goshi 17:47
7.- Uki Goshi (makikomi style) 18:45
8.- 20:36 kneeling Tai Otoshi
9.- 21:07 O Soto Gake
10.- Kibisu Gaeshi 22:01
11.- Good ol' O Soto Gari 25:00
12.- O Uchi Gari 26:30
13.- O Soto Gake 30:32
Cheers from a Judo practitioner!
You are the man.
I heut you
Soto gari is fun
Thank u
oh man, you rock a lot, thank you! Oss!
Watching John do Bernardo impressions is a huge honor for me
6 criteria to judge how appropriate a takedown is for BJJ:
1) Back exposure
2) Neck exposure
3) Belt Exposure
4) Weight Exposure
5) Roll-through Potential
6) General Difficulty
Great breakdown, ESPECIALLY those first two
0) Bernardo Faria Impression
Same criteria should apply for any self-defence takedown. Very smart criteria.
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@@silversoul11 That was hilarious as I have never seen John break character before.
Danaher is such a rare type of human being. We are truly lucky to be his students through the internet.
A true positive super-power of the internet 🙏🏻
As a judoka, I respect how he didn't disparage the techniques as a whole, but rather how they fit into the ruleset and how that affects the reasons for their use. In doing so, he made it more clear why Jiu Jitsu differs, rather than just how.
Johns next instructional should be on impressions because that was PERFECT 😂😂😂
Go further faster: impressions
If you watch him gordon and george on the lex fridman podcast he has a killer george impression too
@@matthershman6791 I saw it!!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I dont do doggystyle moves...looks gay lol...but im just a red belt. 🤫
Is there anything that John cannot do? Except not wear rahsguards of course.
Danaher has an incredible talent to do impersonation. That impersonation of Bernardo Faria was on point. He also did a very funny impersonation of GSP on Lex Fridman's podcast. I want to see more from Danaher!
I love the way Danaher categorizes things. It makes it much easier to discuss our Jiu Jitsu problems.
For all intents and purposes, it should have been categorized much earlier. It seems almost archaic to have so many great BJJ athletes, but none of them could figure out how to succinctly present problems and find solutions like JD does
I always thought it was said, "for all intensive purposes." Lol. Learned more than I expected to. Cheers.
He did a PhD in analytic philosophy. You can tell from the way he break things down to common elements, necessary and sufficient conditions and criteria, and counter examples
@@tico5546 Absolutely. I often think of John Danaher as a clear example of how the skills analytic philosophy can be applied to bring practical benefits "in the real world". If only there were more of that emphasis on clarity and precision in other areas of life/society...
@@everythingflows3639 imagine if only our politicians answered questions like that with that kind of relevance and scrutiny. What a difference.
John "go sit in the corner"
Bernardo: pacing back and forth
I really enjoy the more relaxed John Danaher instead of the hyper focused teacher. He has such a warm personality that doesn't always show and makes it sometimes harder to keep focus on.
I love him and Bernardo together ❤️
@@ashleykocanda3533 for sure. Bernardo's warmth helps offset some of Danaher's clinical and therefore occasionally 'cold' breakdowns.
I am thinking about signing up for the RGA in Midtown. Once they reopen. How is the training? Does Mr. Danaher, cover self defense techniques in his class? And are takedowns covered liked in this video? Osu!
@@stur6722 I dont think you can Just participate in one of Danahers classes he trains all day with the best of the world. But Im sure its a great school and there will be many great teachers and yes Gracie schools ussually Focus a lot on self defense especially in the beginning
Christoph Steck thank you. Yes. I know. I am in New York City. There is a Gracie jujitsu school. And there are a few Renzo Gracie academy’s. I know the advice jujitsu classes are taught by Danaher. That’s blue belt and up. Renzo teaches the advice classes sometimes. When th wrote your comment. I understood you took a class with. And was a student at the RGA headquarters in midtown Manhattan. Osu!
That impression was really good. Had to do a double take
They never should have given you money!
huge honor for me
Lol. Same. I wasn't looking at first, and was like "wait... Bernardo is here with Bernardo? That makes no sense..."
*Rewinds*
Holy shit!
John sounds more like Bernardo than Bernardo does!
Oh shit. I just got SLAIN by that intro. Danaher Death Squad indeed!
Take my money already! Your other series have been very helpful in my development, it is always a pleasure - and an honor - to have access to the distilled knowledge that brilliant minds acquired over decades.
Exactly - when understood in this light it’s an absolute steal!
I’m not sure which is more impressive.. the fact that Mr Danaher was able to do all those techniques without being winded and sounding out of breath while explaining them.. or that he was able to do them so smoothly like he competes… a true master of his craft
I can't wait for john danaher to do a series on bjj fanatics all about self defense!
Ohhhhhh that would be awesome 👍
John is a mad scientist. I love it! I'm positive that if he puts his mind to it there will be massive improvements to bjj take down game, which is needed.
Yes if he and keenan worked together on implementing judo it really would benefit bjj
He didn't invent these you dolt
Must have watch that first five seconds twenty times. Still laugh out loud. John is a great mimic, and Bernardo is a very good sport. So good to be able to laugh when we are going through tough times. Thank you John and Bernardo. Oss.
Watching a master like John break down BJJ in such details is hypnotic
A self defense series from Danaher would be awesome!
Absolutely People with similar door experience and much less martial arts acumen have gone on to become authorities. A John Danaher perspective on self-protection would be invaluable.
Either get really good at a martial art or learn to run
man... that intro was awesome.
I opened this into another Chrome tab and asked myself: "Why the hell is Faria introducing himself and inviting himself???" 😂 Took the images to figure it out
Great stuff. I agree with John's recommendation that ankle picks and collar drags are excellent takedowns to start with, but I think the discussion can be expanded. Empirically, single legs (and double legs to an extent) are the most common takedowns at the competitive black belt level. So even though they have higher risk based on John's six criteria, they are the most effective at the highest level. Singles and doubles are also the most common takedowns (by far) at the freestyle wrestling world championships where people are a lot better at not getting taken down, and the most common takedowns in high-level MMA. So if you are a BJJ competitor and want to "future proof" your takedown game, it would make sense to start practicing those as well, even though it may take a little while to get proficient at them.
That said, if the goal is to start taking down people quickly as John mentions, the relatively low emphasis in BJJ on takedowns means that you can go pretty far in this sport doing lower risk techniques like ankle picks and collar drags. Ankle picks, at least in wrestling, tend to be somewhat body-type dependent and thought of as best for long lanky types (see Cael Sanderson and David Taylor). Will be curious if John addresses this in the instructionals. I would add arm drags, throw bys, and snapdowns to the list that do well using John's six criteria. But in truth, if you have any proficiency in one or two techniques, you will have a significant advantage compared to the average current BJJer.
I'm not disagreeing that single and double legs are the most effective takedowns, they very well might be and are my favourite ones in no-gi, but their use at the highest levels isn't necessarily evidence for such. Techniques and strategies change constantly, so what's currently in use isn't necessarily the best practice, just the best so far. It's entirely possible that they're the most common techniques because a lot of BJJ practitioners have learned their wrestling from wrestlers, so they learned what wrestlers think are best, then got really good at those takedowns and used primarily those in competition. It's possible that the takedowns John's suggesting are actually better for BJJ but aren't used because BJJ guys haven't put as much emphasis on them, therefore are not as proficient at them, thus don't use them as much in competition.
All that being said, I still think single/double leg takedowns are great, but I also know that I know next to nothing about BJJ next to the guys at the top levels of the sport.
Also single legs and double legs are the most countered takedowns in the sport of jiu jitsu apart from being the most successful (and perhaps wrestling), thus making them risky for back exposure and neck exposure, therefore you must factor in your proficiency, but he is going to teach them, I want to hear his take on this. My guess is that apart from a basic and fundamental knowledge in the execution of singles or doubles, the next important thing is your opponents reaction and kuzushi, a opponent recovery from a immediate previous attack or a opponent regain balance inherently doesn't have the mechanical advantage to move, thus it mitigates his ability to counter, add that to proper drive and posture and angle and the odd are in your favor.
I'm excited to see him discuss doubles and singles in particular knows he coached GSP.
@@beefburito Well said, man! There is definitely lots of room for technical developments and even possibly some innovations in the future when it comes to BJJ takedowns. And I look forward to it! That said, double legs and single legs have proven themselves over a century+ of grappling across both submission-based and pin-based disciplines. So even if other BJJ takedown techniques rise in prominence in the future, it's a safe bet that doubles and singles will still be very viable right alongside them. So a person doesn't have to worry about investing time only for those techniques ending up being "niche" or "outdated". And you don't have to worry about them losing effectiveness as you move up the ranks. That's what I mean by "future-proofing" your takedown game.
BTW, I rarely shoot double legs myself for the very reasons Danaher mentions (still like single legs, though!). And for my purposes, I can usually succeed using lower-risk and frankly lower-exertion options. But even though I don't use doubles much, I recognize their effectiveness, especially at the highest level.
@@oscararielrestomunoz3910 That's a very good point. It is another reason why I rarely shoot double legs despite having a wrestling background. The average BJJer doesn't have good takedown defense, but they will at least know how to sprawl okay.
So you can exploit their lack of knowledge by going for other techniques. But when there are no longer obvious defensive holes to exploit, as is the case with high-level opponents, then it comes down to whose technique and execution is strongest. And when the offensive player becomes skilled enough to minimize back/neck/belt/rolling/weight exposure, then the pendulum often swings back to making doubles and singles good options. Not the only options, but good options. Even at black belt worlds.
I agree, Oscar: I also want to hear John's take on these popular takedown techniques. I definitely think that there are BJJ-specific adaptations to the classic single leg and double leg. For instance, in the gi, being able to grab my own collar when I shoot a single is pretty significant. And I know there are BJJ-specific setups that don't exist in wrestling--for example the fake guard-pull into a shot attempt. Looking forward to seeing what he has to share.
Singles and doubles are without a doubt the most prominent takedowns in combat sports. However, this means that the literature on defensive measures has been extensively developed. In high level MMA, it is not uncommon to see a Jiu Jitsu practioner fail in getting their opponent to the ground. Mia vs Usman is a perfect example. Mia shot on Usman repeatedly and got stuffed over and over in addition to eating strikes on the way in and on the way out. Mia was so desperate to grapple he even pulled guard, which unsurprisingly didn't work. All that to say, because of the effectiveness of singles and doubles, they become increasingly harder to complete at higher levels at which the defense has been devoloped.
Specifically for MMA, I think wall/cage based takedowns will become more and more prominent, and for a Jiu Jitsu practioner in MMA, cage based takedowns are the best option currently in my opinion. The "rules" of takedown defense are different when you have your back against the wall, an Olympic wrestler will typically have decades of takedown defense training in an open area. Put their back against the cage, now how do they sprawl? Of course wall based grappling has no application in sport bjj, but I believe that any BJJ athlete who wants to make their way into MMA should focus on the skillset of wall based grappling and takedowns. The wall is a great equalizer for grapplers.
That impression was hilarious 10/10
Easy to get the hype behind Danaher. Not only he's extremely knowledgable, he's an absolute genius communicator
Best intro to any BJJ video EVER. Just wonderful! The brotherhood and ability to laugh at this is just so pure!
The insights John shares are outstanding. I constantly think to myself, "oh, so that's why we do that". He's analyzed the game to great depths.
John Danaher self-defense & bouncer stories is something I am super interested in seeing. Having said that, great video again fellas! Love it!
John Danaher is truly dedicated to improving the art of Jiu Jitsu. Thank You!!!
Danaher is a freaking scientist. Amazing teacher and person.
I watched this video last night and when I went to train this morning I literally got ankle picks from every where on the mat very effective my go to takedown now love it John Danaher puts things in a way that makes moves more easier. Love it!
Total BJJ newbie here - been on 2 sessions, and man I feelt right at home!
So happy I found this chanel. Will surely watch everything he shows. Seems like the perfect teacher 🙂🙏
This was great.
I started in judo and takedowns are exactly like you said. The romantic classical technique is a long term commitment.
The ankle pick is perfect. I also noticed the quick and decisive movement to connect to the Uke
As a long time judo player I really appreciate this. There is nothing I'd take out and if I'd have watched this years ago it might have changed a little how I taught children. The one thing I would add that isn't got on here is that many of these higher risk techniques profit from a shock value when landed. We used to call it the 'your second' meaning you have a split second where your opponent is hurt/frustrated/winded/discombobulated for you to gain a positional advantage. The safer techniques in which someone is pushed to the floor don't cause that. But of course you have to learn so much timing for the big moves and I agree it isn't worth the time cost when there is so much else to take in.
The sound in this video is amazing, every grip, transition, throw and fall feels loud, impactful and visceral. It's like i'm listing to an action movie.
Every video with John Danaher is pure gold. I'm learning so much. I wish there was an inexpensive way to access his full video curriculum.
My instructor got his black belt from him.
Another great video by 2 of the best. Faria, a many time world champion and the most humble human I know, and the other guy, Danaher, who knows more about bjj than any other human and can explain and teach better that anyone else. Notice how Faria studies every word that John says.
Finally, someone comes along and points out the good and bad of Judo and Wrestling techniques and criteria to use them in a BJJ tournament. This is very practical stuff for ANY type of fighting. My only question, why did it take so many years to bring this out?
This video series sounds amazing.
This is exactly what I need. Im sure that I am one of Johns target demographics.
I started grappling at an MMA gym, the coach was big and not very knowledgeable. Whenever I tried to wrestle I got sprawled on endlessly and ended up on bottom. No one had any advice for me and I got tired of trying to dig myself out from a hole against bigger and stronger guys. Eventually I stopped shooting, and limited myself to a few safe takedowns like ankle picks and fireman's carry.
I developed a decent guard and became dangerous from the bottom and working from the top as well. But my standing game has not developed that much. I have invested some time in Judo and throws, but there are so many and no one to show which really work in BJJ (nogi specifically).
The stand up game is so vast and complex, there are no clear systems and it is so hard to know where to begin and where to Invest your time. Add on top of that, that the standing game seems more like a physical grind than the beauty and complexity of the ground game... additionally (to me) you increase the odds that you will get injured significantly.
I am so looking forward to some clear and systematic approaches to the standing situation from Professor Danaher.
Tyler, I was fortunate watch the filming of the Feet to Floor series. The reason he is making this series is to get the whole BJJ Community at least competent in the standing position, in a reasonable amount of time. It is not just about one or two moves we need a broader view. Professor Dahaner lays down a clear path to followed. Many of us have been committed to training but did not have a long term development plan needed to develop the skills. This series will fix that for sure!
@@haleemsyed6577 Cant wait, thanks for sharing
There very much is a beautiful & calculating stand-up game; I only started to really explore & appreciate it about 10 years into my training. Right place, right people, right time.
It's going to be very hard for somebody that big & strong to teach you something he's never going to need/understand.
Another highly highly underrated series to compliment this is the takedown passport by Bekzod Abdurakhimov.
Best of luck my friend, enjoy the journey, make those many many errors & you'll get closer to your "ah-haaa!" Moments!
In Judo, my bread and butter was tai otoshi. John does a perfect demonstration and explanation of what I’ve seen with my successful and failed throws with a renewed clarity.
From a Bjj practioner this video help me a lot, using the techinques that John says I improved a lot my standing game , John it's an amazing teacher, it's like Sun Tzu from the Art of War thanks so much Bernarndo and John for these amazing contenents!
Hahahaha I can’t believe the intro omg that was great !!! 🤣🤣🤣
John is right that some moves taught to beginners, just won't work against trained opponents. Sparring/live rolling is a good way to test out those methods, and see if they actually hold up.
This was really important for me transitioning from judo into bjj. Thank you!
Judo seems riskier as one gets older.
I'm a black belt who has neglected takedowns over the years but a good collar drag and good ankle pick on the ground. Cant wait to apply this.
YES!!! I've really wanted to focus on takedowns during Covid because honestly.....mine sucks. I can not wait to get this series and I DEFINITELY am interested in the self-defense series! That is definitely what I'm most focused on during my journey. The tournament stuff is cool but I'm a five-foot female that wants to be able to handle herself during a god forbid situation.
Joe rogan said every woman should at least get there blue belt in bjj incase someone tries to rape them
Loved the intro haha. Such a powerful community we are
This man ability to communicate with instruction is outstanding 🙌🏼
OMG I’ve only take. One class in Bjj and I’m learning so much from your videos because you have invited these legends. Thank you so much. It helps that I’ve studied Kung Fu for years now even though I’m out of shape I can do the basic moves. I learned so much here
Please do one for nogi as well 🙏
My first love is Judo, it's a beautiful sport that gets no love. I'm glad that you are using proper Judo names for your throws and not making up names like 10th planet does. I do believe that both Arts Judo and BJJ should be studied to be a well rounded grappler. Thank you for your wonderful videos.
But the Samurai roll into the vaporizer is so cool 😭😭😭
This just keeps getting better every time you watch it.
I just did 28:56 collar drag today in sparring and it worked. Granted I had to sell other feints, and attempts etc. But it worked, and was my first ever collar drag with gi. It wasn't as pretty, but it worked and I was able to immediately get side control.
My fingers hurt
thank you Sir Danaher.
People don't even know how precious is your knowledge...
This is, hands down, THE best video intro of all times!❤️
I find interesting that the throws John categorizes as best for jiujitsu are considered some of the highest difficulty throws in judo particularly the foot sweeps, sacrifice throws, and long-distance hip sweeps.
That was a spot on impression. Wow! Bernardo sounds like Brazilian Kermit the frog mixed with dash of Arnold Schwarzenegger.
The intro made my morning before work ;) the best takedown of seriousness certainly
This was awesome! I think that Danaher is right about takedowns being the future of BJJ!
Of course this comes as soon as I purchase a judo instructional. 🙃. Definitely will be looking into the series at some point though.
Ha ha, that's annoying, but don't worry, I'm sure they will compliment each other!
Some invaluable lessons here. Thank you.
Great technical explanation! Very useful for selecting takedown techniques
This man is a gift from the Jiu-Jitsu gods!
Thanks for constant uplaod Jui Jitsu Family ! ouch brother i shattered my toe last year get well soon ! doing jui jitsu now a year later ...dedication discipline respect much love 💚💪🏽🙏🏽
Wow, I thought the audio was edited on the first seconds. REALLY good impression
This is so true. I’m a blue belt just getting back since covid and I was talking to a fellow blue belt while doing take down drills and we both said we don’t like standing. Lol. I’m usually a guard guy but seeing this video I’m going to start standing when sparring from now on As much as possible. This is something that needs to be address thanks 🙏
Also I need to learn these takedown immediately.
I wasn't staring at the video when it started. I thought, 100%, it was Bernardo talking. Danaher is a man with many talents.
This man is a f****** treasure for jiu jitsu
As usual, tons of crucial ideas! Also, if I wasn't hyped enough for this series, Danaher is giving us a sneak peek on his take on self defense. My poor wallet
Wow Johns impression was excellent!!
Always interesting to see how the different point scoring aspects of judo vs. ju-jitsu drive tactics. Danaher has excellent knowledge of both and appreciates how different throws lead to different scenarios and point scoring possibilities for both tori and uke. Plus in his analysis of how to "short cut" the learning process of O-Soto-Gari and arrive at a randori-effective technique he demonstrates a lot more tactical awareness and appreciation of how students actually learn effective technique than many judo coaches.
In my coaching I've largely discarded static uchi-komi with 50/50 grips for this reason. My drilling is largely grip break/movement/entry/throw based now.
I don't know what's more soothing - hearing John casually pronounce these Japanese throw names I've never heard of, or watching him perform them
Excellent tutorial, thanks John!
The beginning was so funny...it was a huge Danahonor for me!!
Amazing video! Finally decided which instructional to start with - Feet to Floor) Also, the intro is fire, laughed loudly.
That intro was awesome, what an amazing guys are these guys
Yes the drop to mat technique is awsome the gravity really looks like it works for you
fantastic!!!!
All these videos are amazing thank you
I wasnt watching the intro because I was glancing at other vids and I thought it was Bernado until I heard him said "I'm here with my friend, Bernado…" I got confused and took a look and lo-and-behold, John Danaher is the one having the most impressive impression I've ever seen of anyone. Amazing shit.
+1 for the impression
but god I love the way John explains things
Such a great video and so impressed with John's level judo and judo modification for BJJ. Best takedown video i have seen on youtube!
My grandma stands no chance
Huge honor watching this video!
thank you for the video
Love the videos! Keep it up!
Time stamps would be awesome for learning!
Truly incredible. Free content on point. My kids compete nationally in jits , judo and wrestling. They love u videos. Well done John. Keep it up.
OMG Danaher is sooo gooodddd making his point cristal clear
Once again, you are the king
Great Channel Bernardo!
wow..great instruction. I can understand why John is great instructor.
Excellent instruction.
This video very useful for me
Great video
Yes John 👏🏻👏🏻 Thank you !!!!
It’s so awesome to see that Danaher has a good sense of humor
this why i enjoy my class, we learn wrestling, gi jiujitsu, and no gi so we get a perfect mix technique