Teenage Engineering OP-Z!!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ต.ค. 2018
- OH. PEE. ZEE!! Also just to clarify: I'm Canadian. I bring up my dislike of "zed" as a Canada-loving Canadian.
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Apple: Removes headphone jack
Nobody will outdo this
Teenage Engineering: *Removes screen*
I'm sure most analog equipment don't have screens lol
But this Synth isn't replacing the OP-1, it's supposed to be a cheaper alternative to the OP-1...
Well most analogs have a more logical layout
So they dont need screens
Analog gear is simpler in function and knobs/switches have one function.
I mean
Why even have a "keyboard" at this point?
Why even have a physical thing?
just make an application
So it’s like some pocket operators jammed into a king sized candy bar synth that requires learning a combination of Viking symbology and other hieroglyphs to create music. BRILLIANT.
Lmao glad someone said it
It’s easier in Sweden. We end the alphabet with Ö... ❤️ I love the music you made, mate! So tight!!
OP-Ö
cuckoomusic True, but we pronounce Z even weirder xD
We pronounce Z like the ancient greeks for some reason. Zeta.
Öh my
OP-Å in Norwegian
Sort of feels like OPZ isn't a cut down OP1... it's a Pocket Operator on steroids?
Though the same dude!!!! only needs some mic in to have the K.O included and it's like an all in one
Like a Pocket operator with no onscreen display-sadly- and tiny smurf finger buttons. Was begging TI to offer the POs as a single standalone drum machine/sampler.
Though to be fair, it's not as though the POs have the most informative screens out there - the multi-LED on the OPZ will get the job done. AND the iPhone interface seems pretty useful too. I'm coming around on this thing, even if it is completely insane...@@drumatic
Jim B-Reay same. i first was like, “there’s no way this is intuitive! there is no screen. how will i know what i’m doing?” but it seems quite a bit easier than it appeared at first.
My thoughts exactly :)
0/10 because of no cow
Use your imagination
Was looking for this comment
get this to top comment
I know close to nothing about all these and even I know it's missing the cow!
Feed OP-Z into the OP-1 and apply cow. Fixed it!
look how hydrated he is.
820 does him good
When everyone else hit the bong,Andrew hit the bottle.
@@nevviles.4219 wow sounds like a cool lyric or beginning to a chapter in a YA novel.
Like KISS taking off the makeup, some things are better left alone.
@@tomrabbani "When everyone hit the bong, he hit the bottle,
None will come, and then a lot'll,
Pourin' it out, it come FULL THROTTLE!
Sounds like a 1st of October song to me :thumbsup:
It's like a computer ...with no screen. Yet, somehow, still intriguing.
Not all Computers have screens man
Computers don't have screens, unless it's an all in one
@@qi6303 Or a server, or the ones back in the day with just 8 lights on the front (similar to how this thing looks)
Seems more
POV: you’re an avid Apple user
Andrew, I've commented on a youtube video maybe twice, but i needed to comment on this.
I just wanted to say thank you for producing such excellent content.
You do so much work. You learn what you're talking about so you remain informative and don't bullshit the viewer.
Your quick and efficient, but still comedic.
Your editing and cinematography is always spot-on and your white-minimalist-asthetic is always pleasent.
Beyond that, you're a fantastic musician that still wants to learn and you've got a great personality.
So i just wanted to say thank you. You've entertained me, informed me, and pleased me...visually that is.
It means a lot, thank you :)
I think you mean aurally.
@@PoorlySoup both?
You're*
@@ItsOverFatKid Go back eating cheetos fatass
All these people complaining it costs more when they haven't even looked it up:
OPZ: ~£500
OP1: ~£800
+G You don't know that. It's been out for like five minutes. just because it doesn't have that nice screen doesn't necessarily mean it takes longer to learn... also that's just not what this thing is. Music composition is highly exploratory. Despite the limitations of any instrument there are an insane number of possibilities. I still 'want' an OP-1, but the OP-Z is definitely worth what they're charging for it.
For people in the US:
OP-Z: ~$600
OP-1: ~$1000
@@aurorajarvis5502 Agree on this one.
@@gusjohnnson9641 600 bucks.... :(
**sad poor teen music**
Where can you get an 0p-1 other than ebay or some other used site? TE doesn't produce it anymore, sadly.
I'm sure it's wonderful. To me, it seems WILDLY confusing. I know if I got one, the phrase "Wait. No" would come out of my mouth every 30 seconds or so.
Yeah it seems a little too small with too much symbolism having to be remembered.
True, id rather use an android phone and a good app like caustic to make music if i need a tiny device to make music on, at least you can see what you're doing on the app
I hear y'all. And I'm sure you've heard it before but it's SUPER intuitive. You'd be making music on it quicker than you'd expect. And it's very deep im still learning stuff 1.5 years in!
Thank you
It’s very similar to the Pocket Operators, if you pick that one up and learn it, I think you’ll understand OP-Z. I only have two Pocket Operators but after seeing this video I think I could use OP-Z without hassle.
Not a musician even but I find Teenage engineering products to be quite fascinating from a design point of view. It appears to be heavily aspired by the works of Dieter Rams when he was working at the German design powerhouse Braun.
True. Apple were too apparently.
Yep! Dieter Rams is da 🐐 no 🧢
I love how concisely you can explain something so ridiculous and packed with multilayered controls, while also making great music and keeping it fun! :D
Hey, it's Matt Gray! Good to see you here.
❤
You could give this guy a fully functioning steel mill and within a day he'd have a five minute video that explained everything and would have somehow made beats out of it
@@kyrla Industrial music eh
Always nice to see the bounciest man on the internet on my favourite channels
Is it lego compatible?
Yes. Of course.
I thought the same 😁
no cow, but lego compatible. these things have weird selling points
Two things to note about a display-less piece of equipment:
Less price
Longer battery life
For using in live performance, the OP-Z eschews the screen smartly for portability.
WonSomethingAtLeast actually less battery then the OP-1, if the Operator 1 forums are anything to go by the OP-Z has a serious lack of battery capability right now. 4-6 hours.
this is honestly a waste of money. JUST RE RELEASE THE OP1 GEEZ
The OP-1 actually never went out of production; it's just backordered everywhere. I ordered one a couple weeks back and am just waiting for MoMA to receive and ship it.
Still not on the sweet spot for started synths, which is 500 USD. People often forget how niche the synth world is. Remember, the best selling synth of all time (Yamaha DX7) sold 100,000 units over its entire lifetime.
Wow! you are killing it with these quality uploads ! These last five videos have been pure 🔥🔥🔥
I can already feel how retro this will be in the future.
Retro.stuff.is.the.coolest.though
Also,.it is more post modern right.now than anything, so.its.not.gonna.catch.flare.for another.five years maybe
It.can.control unity.afterall
🅱️oneless Synth
sorry synthmachine broke
I like my synth the same way I like my pizza.
BONELESS
Cowless synth
theantifart no hecking swear on my 🅱️ine🅱️raft Christmas swervur
dead meme
My favorite rapper is Jay-Zed
Hoping to see him collab with Zed Zed Top
My favorite Rush song YYZee.
Hahaha
I once called him Jay-Zed while in England cause I figured that's what they must call him there. Boy was I wrong... oh the scorn!
AlexWhiteLanda I say that, since that's how we pronounce z here, however people seem to forget that..
I think you did a great job at show casing this but I hope you do another video on it cause you missed a cpl of key elements.
Master transpose track which is probably OP-Z strongest feature and most innovative. You basically enter your sequence and the master transpose track analyses which key you’re in and then you can transpose in the fly and step sequence those transpose changes. If you set the track length to x4 or x8 and play in a transpose sequence you can create very long patterns with chord structures.
Tape track: this track buffers 10 seconds of sound and lets you remix it. It’s basically a beat repeat type of thing which you can sequence as well.
Step components: you can add step components to each step. Things like octave shift, beat repeat, elektron type of x\x trig etc.
each step can contain 5 (or was it more?) step components so each step can start to get really wild and unpredictable.
Encoder step sequencing: each encoder sequence can be sequences by just pressing a step and changing the encoder setting.
Mute groups: each pattern can contain 10 mute groups. One mute group contains mute settings for the pattern. I.e track 4 is solo in one group and in the other track 1-4 is muted. Really handy for live playing.
Midi: each track can be converted to a midi track. So you have a 16 track midi sequencer with 16 cc parameters on each track to sequence. Seriously powerful stuff.
iOS OS X app: new effects, synth engines and samples will be available for download, making it a lot more customizable.
Thanks for sharing those cool beats btw!!
+! Andrew didn’t mention about modules. Seen those 4 empty lego-like sockets on the top side? Modules will add even more features! At least this was initial concept. Info from Cuckoo’s op-z review. So recording feature is still under question.
Yep. I cut a section about that from this video because it was getting long but also the word is that none of this is coming for a while. When there is something concrete to share I will!
Modules will also cost about the same price of the unit you attach them to.
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You know it’s real bro! Beautiful film work!
I came into this channel a year ago thinking you were like a goofy vlogger who occasionally played with cool electronics, and over time I realized that your videos are these incredibly thoughtful, helpful, and concise resources for musicians or anyone who's interested in this sort of niche equipment. I just wanna say your enthusiasm is inspiring, and sorry for misjudging you!
Just hold P + 1+ 9 and tap blue twice while bending yellow slightly counter clockwise for entering a note.
EASY!
So true
LOL my thoughts exactly. So intuitive!
It's always fun to watch you geek out about new gear, but your completely unexpected zee-vs-zed rant at the end was possibly my favorite thing about this video, and a great start to my day.
Harry Potter is my favorite effect
lmao
i prefer number 2
“I’ve only had it for one day I haven’t mastered it”
...goes on to play hundreds of amazing Andrew Huang beats because of course he does
Your content is top notch! Thank you for producing such engaging, informative, and funny videos!
Awesome B-roll in the beginning!
Love your content Andrew, keep making.
I have watched this so many times and I still don’t get how it works.
So basically just mash all the buttons and hope for a masterpiece
You have just described my workflow!
Yeah, just like a Moog!
As a fellow musician, I find your videos extremely detailed and helpful without being cumbersome or drab.. You keep it light and fun while expertly demonstrating products.. Setting the bar high, friend! Keep it up. :)
Should also note that I find the production value excellent as well; camera placements/angles, lighting, micing, mixing, editing, pacing... So if that's all you, nicely done!
As a fellow Canadian who usually is all about spelling/ pronouncing/ etc. the proper Canadian way... yeah I totally agree with you about Z
'Zed' is the french prononciation of the letter.
You like saying leftenant?
@@g.g.aartlover4352 british
@@GavinKing_AKA_plumpNation
Right way*
@@GavinKing_AKA_plumpNation Well thats pretty far from canada. I'm french canadian and I say 'zed' when I speak french but 'zee' when I speak english.
Wow, what a beast of a device. It's like a drum sequencer + effectrix + performance console. This might be my first Teenage Engineering purchase!
The fact that it can control Unity and link to your sequences for $500 is worth the price of admission alone. I want this!!!
I was watching your 2nd episode of the 4 producers remixing a sound clip and I finally wrote something just sick. Just watching your videos inspire me every day to write. Thanks!!!
Just received mine and couldn't be happier with it! Thanks for the amazing overview! I haven't fallen in love with a product this much in a while
Been waiting for this videooooo YESSSSSSSSSS
FINALLY! A pocket synthesizer with snake, harry potter, AND the number 2. Can't believe it's taken this long for someone to make one.
Great rundown! Seems like the decided to solve what a lot of people found frustrating with the OP-1, which was that you could not have multiple tracks (or just synth + drum) sequenced - they needed to be committed to tape. And they did that by taking their PO technology and essentially "combining" multiple POs together.
How did I not see this video last year? This is insane! Loved the video Andrew :)
"First day with the OP-Z" and already at a level that I won't be able to reach within 10 years
This is awesome! Great piece of kit :) Wicked video again!
Stay Awesome,
Rory @ Hyper Production
Awesome vid :) ! I'm still waiting for my OP-Z to come in, but watching these videos help my body be prepared for the sheer awesomeness :D
Amazing review Andrew! I want to get my hands on this op-z now!
Oh, man, effects in another time signature than the main track? I'm hyperventilating here!
Love mine already. Also no screen makes you concentrate on the sound, it’s great, the iOS app is handy to get to know it, but as long as you are good at remembering combos , yr good.
This looks really cool, what a great time for music devices! I bought the TE K.O, Digitone and MPC Live.... but now I'd like to play with this OPZ!! Great video :)
You just create awesome content and even more awesome music! Thanks for that!
I love how teenage engineering managed to "train" musicians to respond after audio commands making it possible to remove screen! really impressive! could even be a concept to start a tool to help the blind people!
This is basically a master PO, the OP1 is a different instrument completely
Callum Alston wish i could merge my 3x PO into a OP-Z
I agree
Looking at Andrew's studio overwhelms me in the best way.
Haha, love those creative shots with the two together!
I couldn't hear you over my pocket operator
😂best comment
Radioactive_Space_Turtle sub and ko I am addicted
I have Tonic and it's so good! I really also want the Arcade one.
@@imanoljesusdelpozo4907 I have the Arcade, Sub and Rhythm
I have the Tonic and KO - completely hooked
This thing is a GIANT POCKET OPERATOR! Amazing!
I still want the OP-1. But the OP-Z looks snazzy!
All the enjoyment of composing music with all the frustration of programming the timer on a VCR from the 80s. Nice.
I got pretty good at those. Maybe this will be good for me.
I was legit completely focused, trying to absorb all the info, then the snake and harry potter effects totally cracked me up!
Super nice review, it seems way deeper than what I thought, I thought it was just a "simpler, lighter op-1"
this is really cool, looks really handy I always wanted something for portable use...
just have a feeling I won't be able to afford that.. OP-1 was already super expensive x_x
(edit) wow actually cheaper than OP-1 but still...
Way to go TE, you continually manage to make less and less intuitive interfaces, more convoluted with each device! 😇
Next version will only have two buttons and one LED and you have to punch in commands in binary code. I am getting angry just looking at that thing.
Well, you're clearly missing the killer feature of this one, which is the attachments for the stupid Lego add-on are now part of the knobs.
Kyle Burris it is very intuitive in my opinion
It looks about as intuitive to learn, if not more, than any DAW software I've seen, with the added benefit of being able to manipulate an instrument in real time. Doesn't seem bad, considering Andrew learned it in a day, and I was starting to get a pretty good understanding of it after a 10 minute video.
Nah. It's unnecessarily macro and menu-oriented. Hate it.
I watched this again and had to laugh when you mention “ no signal input “ as when I first got my OP-Z I thought it was awesome. 2 years on and the upgrades have added so much.
Reminds me of my old QY20 but with some very snazzy additions and features. The OP-1 & OP-Z look like great portable sequencers. Might have to upgrade :-D
I'm canadian and I say zeeeee also
We spent the 1980's getting away from terrible interfaces. Today, you pay a premium for one.
haha :D so true ! its ridiculous
i mean, it seems weird but andrew seems to adapted to it very fast. the soul of that product is that you dont need a computer or a big synthesizer. it has quality sounds on the go. just listen to the tracks he made!
fakshen1973 yeah, thank TE for net forcing us to buy a second one if we’ve already paid for an iOS Device -and not crippling the experience on their device if we don’t already have an Apple product.
For 20-50 quid maybe but give my eyes and fingers a break this is for kids
Right?
VERY good video Andrew. I don't even make electronic music but you explained things really well and now I want one? Also your explanation of the effects was very funny. Left triangle.
That airy chord sequence with the tight bass is so plastic beach. I love it.
An excellent A to Zed of the instrument. Thanks.
Shouldn't that be eh to zed?
😂😂
Imagine how A to Sea/See/C would sound. Awful!
25 mb of sample space in 2018 isn't cool
How many seconds does that work out to?
2 min 22 sec in stereo with a samplingrate of 44.1 kHz and 16 Bits
Damn is that all you get.. you'd think they'd allow 400gb micro sd's to be plugged in.
People don’t understand! This is not a scaled down OP-1, it’s a scaled up PO!
@Nim Chimpsky can i buy yours?
TE are hitting it out of the park. Just fantastic. I'd love one of these.
Can’t wait till it comes out!!
Andrew Huang is literally my favorite music producer ever.
Indeed. It's inspiring how he can make such nice music with pretty much anything.
Try Listening to Amon Tobin, Dave Tipper, Brian Transeau (BT) and Aphex Twin,
literally?
Lol. You need to get out more.
Oh no..
This thing is sick.
*time to get a job I guess*
scorchM Music op 1 is still better
Holy cow your reviews are so good !
I don't know anything about music or tech, but I subbed because you seem like a nice person and I enjoy your voice🙂
The OP-Z isnt a watered down OP-1, its supposed to be a combination of all of the pocket operators.
Is it? Explicate...
PREACH. CANADIANS THAT SAY ZEE IS AN UNDERREPRESENTED DEMOGRAPHIC
Heresy
From B.C., everyone says "zee" not "zed". Also shops that carry Tenage Engineering are in short supply.
Aye where my Zed boys at lmao
Do aussies say Zed?
Also unrepresented, the knights who say "ni!"
Even though it is pronounced ZED! Am English so can vouch for us having spawned the language so know how to speak it properly :-P
They both look cool but kind of interesting you referred to the features on the OP1 in the past tense. Suspect OP1 vs OPZ is going to be a common debate so would be interesting to know which you have used more over the coming weeks/months/year.
As ever, loving your vids.
5:36 OP-Z & chill! Love that bass line
Bro, I'm Australian and I pronounce the last letter "Z" both ways and I'm fine with it 👌🏼
traitor
@@rx-heaven8934 more like Two-Face from Batman! lol
Here I am to question the unquestioned, "do the x holes fit Lego bars?"
A year late but no joke they actually do
I'm so happy that this at least seems so much more easy to use at least from a beginner stand point
Great video, great comedy, great information, great delivery, groovy tunes and the best couples pictures ive ever seen on lovely gear. Wouldnt be surprised if TE wants to print those out and hang them up. This is why Andrew is in The Millionaires Club. Oh, and he's awesome.
Just remember y’all the op z is HALF fhe price of an Op1
not worth
Pretty underwhelming to me considering the price point. That's a shame.
Sounds super clean! love it!
Live, keyed, random alterations of the midi and audio = amazing.
make Rob Scallon vs. the OP-Z!!
Oh no not the zee/zed discussion again xD
I'll take that over Yanny vs Laurel
More like "zet" I think
I'm Canadian and I agree with Andrew on this one.
In german its "tsett" which has even more punch :D
"discussion" - England created English, thus "Zed".
Really been waiting for this video
Wow that thing packs some nice sounds and flowability. Been looking at pictures thinking I really don't need that. Same thing that made me pass on the OP-1 for a couple years. Dammit why'd you trap me in this GASchamber Andrew!
I was waiting for an OP1 on order for MONTHS in the UK and then got told a couple of weeks ago that they've stopped production... grrrr... Not interested in the OP-ZED
Pretty sure there's an updated model dropping soon
25mb of samples for 500$ lol what
He misspoke its 25mb per track which is good enough.
Be great to see an update on this video with all the new features.
I love how teenage engineering applied the sequence effect system from their POs to a larger device.
Honestly the more I think about it, the more I think that the OP-Z is a lot closer to the pocket operators than the OP-1.
Between the display, the sequencer and the effects, they should have called this the PO-1000
Looks like a really cool device, though the lack of a screen without an iOS device kills it for me.
I don't like it. To complicated for me considering what it does and probably costs.
mehr schwein seems to be a love it or leave it situation
600$ ain't bad
Agreed
You think it's complicated because you are looking through a "OP-1 lens", because you're used to the visual feedback and so on. But old synthesizers were much harder to operate and sometimes didn't have any visual feedback at all... Yet everyone loves them!
I think "too complicated" is highly based on how much practice you're willing to give it. I feel you could get really efficient and do some really cool stuff with it (especially live) if you're willing to put the time in to master it. It's just it's format isn't too familiar, so it's kind of like learning to navigate a new instrument, expect probably easier than that.
@11:16 no dedicated mic port but the headphone jack is a 4-pole style (same as your smart phone) so you should be able to use a headset mic or any mic with the right pinout.
Love your vids, your a great inspiration! Keep it up! Btw what is the price range of the op-z?
I kept waiting for him to say "Y'all been punked - it's just some legos with a backing track!"
But seriously, thanks for the demo. I think it's not for me, going to stick with my iPad and stuff like BeatMaker and Noise. But I suck anyway, so I guess it doesn't matter much yet :-)
Controlling a light rig in time with the loops sounds cool, though. But it's a bit beyond my needs at the moment.
Hey! Check me out. I use iPad too.
Waiting for Jeremy now
Zed Means Recowding
But the record button is not red anymore :'(
Gonxalus Aika you know it ain’t todo with the button right? It’s because the UI on Op1 all changes red when in tape mode once recording starts. And the button on this device has a red LED that turns on once it starts recording in real time so......HA!
@@todbadman oh, I didn't notice the red LED. All well, then
And in a recording studio there is a red light in the recording room that is lit when the control room is recording. This is why the OP-1 goes red. Red Has Meant Recording for decades.
Great video! Gives me a better sense of the device than the demo videos I've mostly been seeing (although if Suture Sound wanted to share some pure demos/jams I'd totes watch those).
What are the four screw things on top of the device next to the buttons? And do the screws on the bottom do anything?
This color yellow looks great on you, also great tutorial. this is powerful little machine