As a Saints fan, Chris has been concussed every single year since his rookie year with us. I think he needs to wear a guardian cap, along with thinking about life after football. A good portion of his concussions have him wobbly and legit not moving at times. Chris is an awesome dude on and off the field, but he needs to seriously think about retirement, due to how much player hit him in the head.
I agree, I've always thought that every player should wear the guardian cap since it came out. It's amazing though how much they are more concerned with looking cool on the field than their safety. My thing is if everyone wore them then nobody would look standout or look silly with it on.
As an Olave fan, I agree. But do we have data that guardian caps are adding protection? Would love if MDs would review guardian cap this offseason. Couldn’t be more supportive of guardian caps/protective gear IF they’re proven to do something. That being said, if I was world class athlete, I’d put it on and tell the docs that I can be their guinea pig for their upcoming studies! Look at Achane
Thing with Guardian caps is that they have only shown a very limited ability (we're talking 5-10% at most) to prevent concussion, and generally only with hits involving the back of the helmet. A guardian cap likely could have helped Tua only because two out of Tua's recent concussion have been caused by his helmet hitting the ground on the back of his head, but unfortunately when talking about football, that's the least common for a concussion to happen unless you're a QB. It'd be cool if Guardian caps worked, but they just really don't for the most part.
@@dayvedreamin3437these players need to be forced to wear it, plainly. They have to wear seatbelts on the road, that's life. It's for their own protection.
I'm not trying to be jerk but this is football it's a violent game and on this play his qb is the blame he should have put the ball on his numbers and not up in the air so he can get down
@@randomguyonyoutube253I doubt that he’s on the nfls pay roll😂 and I sincerely hope you don’t think that was a fake injury. Olave was straight unconscious for like a solid 20 seconds you can’t really take that
@@griffinalmes2706 explain how he comes out with videos so quick then 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bro has a script if he wants to show medical side of sports why not do all injuries he is damage control all signs show
Also playing WR Olave is much more at risk for these head traumas than say Tua is. There’s ways that a QB can avoid hits or get the ball out quick to not get impacted as often. For a WR they get crunched at the end of basically every time they touch the ball it’s not really avoidable.
The scary things about these head injuries is not only is the immediate danger concerning, but the long term effects can linger for the rest of his life. Not uncommon to find negative changes in speech, motor skills and cognitive ability decades later
@@vmi4172they don’t make millions because of injury risks, they make millions because they produce billions for rich people who don’t put their bodies on the line. It’s truly shocking how little u seem to care about the health of your fellow human being, I hope u reflect on why you’re so bitter & apathetic because this isn’t a normal reaction to a concerned discussion about somebody’s health. Nobody even said anything negative about football, they literally just said he should think about his life after football & that’s how u respond… just shameful & embarrassing all around man, be a better person, care about the world u live in & the people u share it with
@@561REALTLKI get what you’re saying but if he’s out there he’s gotta be able to run whatever. It’s like saying a RB can’t run up the middle. If Olave was in such a bad spot he couldn’t do basic receiver plays he shouldn’t have been out there at all. Otherwise you’re having the worst of both worlds not using his full skill set and putting him at risk of re injury.
@@michaelthoele1625 Bad hit, yes. Worse throw, absolutely. Old School QBs don't throw that? BS, it get's thrown WAY too often and always has. The problems here are three fold and not all on Carr. 1. Terrible throw - that accuracy was garbage. Carr knows it and he will live with this (as a former D1 QB I threw a few of these) and it sucks seeing your guy get hurt because your couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with your pass. 2. While old school QBs certainly threw these bad passes across the middle, old school wide outs didn't go up after them. Incentives on contracts force bad choices by players. Back in the day receivers would not even try to catch these ducks. Instead they came back to the huddle and chewed your ass out for trying to kill them. Finally, 3. Yes I know it's a bang bang play but that hit was late - not a penalty late hit but a "I'm going to light his ass up" late hit straight out of Jack Tatum's play book. Dirty then and dirty now. Legal? Yeah, dirty oh yeah. Get well Olave, Carr owes you big time.
The injury play was reminiscent of Michael Irvin’s last play. I saw MI injury live but saw this just now and it’s time to say enough enough. God bless him And his dream!
Irvin's injury was just a routine slant with an attempt by the Eagles to hit him in the head. Olave's injury was a garbage airball that was uncatchable, coming down crumpled his body much lower than normal, and I think the second defender was trying to pull up to readjust. He even led with the shoulder, which is what you're supposed to do, but Olave's head was positioned an entire foot lower than it should have been. One is bad intent, the other is bad luck largely stemming from a bad throw. They're like mirror opposites.
This video underscores the need to discuss, walk through and rehearse scenarios involving an EAP so that when it actually is time to activate it, it's second nature. Career ending discussions on any level are never easy, but super important to be had. Great video once again Doc. Thanks.
I received a couple of alerts on my phone while I was at work, so it's good to get home and see a reasonable breakdown and explanation waiting for me - thank you. (Bombas, eh? I knew you when you were sponsored by Untuckit!)
Thank youuuuu Doctor!!! I appreciate these videos So much!! I like football but I love the humans. Thanks for choosing to do these videos. I, like others, want to know ppl are okay. 😢
I know thats a common throw, but man QB's gotta do a better job at putting the ball in a place were your receivers don't have to jump in the air and expose themselves like that..Scary hit thou
Nice breakdown and very informative 👍hopefully Olave is feeling better soon! Also, it is interesting that you hear and see more about injuries in the NFL rather than rugby where no protective equipment is needed. Why is that?
I suspect every NFL player has had at least one concussion, and nearly every player has had more than one. O-linemen never get knocked out cold like wide-outs, but they get slapped in the helmet every play. Brain damage is like hearing damage: it doesn't take much, it's hard for the patient to recognize, and it's much easier to prevent than to treat.
Thanks for the video. For some reason, I thought that airway was always the first check to make in any injury situation. I hope that he recovers completely even if he doesn't play football again.
Is it feasible the defensive player's helmet position immediately behind the injured as he was hit from the front increased the severity? Does the neck somewhat act as a shock absorber by allowing the head to move back? Like catching an egg with a firm hand, vs moving the hand down as it's caught so it doesn't break? _Intentionally leading with the shoulder into the head is targeting. It's not only helmet to helmet._
Really enjoy how you break down these injuries. I think it would be really interesting if you did a similar series of videos on past sports injuries that altered careers of sports biggest stars. Bo Jackson, Gale Sayers, Ryan Shazier, etc. One I would really like to hear your thoughts on is Sterling Sharpe. How such a low impact collision could end his career. Also thoughts on how modern medicine could have impacted their recovery. Thank you
This one honestly has me ready to quit fantasy football. I was SOOOO HYPED for Olave this week and this happens. Worse possible scenario for him I’m sick. Pray for Olave Carr doesn’t give af about his WR’s
I was placed on a spine board after being in a car accident. I was 100% conscious and alert. While I was pissed they were putting my on the board and onto a stretcher and into an ambulance I understand it was done solely out of precaution. While the spine board looks scary, due to some implications, its usually done just to be safe.
They are on a path for a medium length career. In the 2010’s guys were retiring early. The days of 20 year players are rare because its rare to play that long. Based on injury history, Tua and Olave pro career’s look like they will barely last 10 years possibly less. Most NFL career’s are 3 years or less but Olave and Tua are admittedly good players at their position and have big roles on their teams. It’s truly up to them and how they feel. They are young now but give it 5 more years of beatings every Sunday. Could be putting the body in jeopardy weekly. You dont heal as well at 30 plus than you did at 25 and under. Father time is ticking. Concussions are starting to add up, thats a lot of head trauma… :( I had 4-5 in high school but I didn’t play any further. These guys are probably close to double digits honestly. I just hope they are okay and can still live a normal life later on. I know what the pain of a concussion feels like and I have empathy for knowing what their experiences may be. It’s not fun to have legit brain injury and you’re scared to sleep or look at anything with lights. Even sounds can be triggers to more pain in the brain, it sucks.
They haven't even been able to cash the real money of their careers, which is the second contract. A first-round rookie contract absolutely could set you up for six figures every year from investing that money, but that's assuming a player takes that route. There are a lot of figures taking money out of young players' pockets, from their agent to the IRS, and that's before you figure family and friends begging for money or the player being lax with their money assuming that the money's gonna keep rolling. Particularly in Tua's case, I would not be surprised if his family took a large chunk of his wealth. His father in particular seems very entitled to the fruits of Tua's success. Olave hasn't even finished his rookie contract, let alone signed a second contract. I'm not saying they couldn't hang it up immediately and be alright, but it's not necessarily that simple, especially if their concussion histories eventually render them unable to drive or do normal work.
If the NFL’s independent neurologist recommends a player retire, Goodell should step in and nullify the contract so it comes off the salary cap, insurance pays it out, and the player is barred from playing again. Obviously this is ridiculous and won’t happen, but some players seriously will only quit if they are forced to. Players like Luke Keuchly and Chris Borland retiring early due to concussion fear is unfortunately extremely rare.
These guys DO NOT even realize how screwed they already are. It's ALREADY too late, the brain damage has been suffered and there's no coming back from it.
We survive. One day at a time. And yes we realize but we choose to ignore. All for the love of the game. We understand the risk and choose to play anyway.
@@SirJoey420 I highly doubt they understand the long-term implications, especially how ferociously the NFL has tried to deny any causality between head injuries and CTE. They get paid so much that it's easy to think that they'll be fine, just buy some pills with their millions, but that's not how it works.
It's very case by case. Never predictable. There are people who sustain multiple severe violent head injuries for over a decade and never end up affected very much, while there are others who can no longer speak after just falling over. Trying to condemn every concussion patient to a life of disability is uneducated and annoying.
@@evosteffthere have been studies on contact sports athletes(mostly amateurs)who died before age 30. Over half had already sustained brain damage. Most common cause of death was self inflicted. Scary stuff.
If you don’t see a illegal hit you’re legally blind. The ball had been over and gone two plays ago when he hit him. The game was over when he hit him. Late bad unnecessary hit. He really had hate in his heart.
Yeah this was definitely a pretty bad hit. He clearly wasn’t tracking the ball at all, didn’t care that his teammate was already draped over Chris’ back, led with his head, just so many things wrong with the hit. I know they are playing at a million miles an hour but this deserves a fine.
@erceewynnii3088 They're also taught to let up on a play when they see an uncatchable ball. He had two footsteps to react and adjust his launching point.
The only fair way to determine fine/suspensions is to measure the yards of separation at the time of ball contact between safety and WR. Imo, Anything at 5+ yards should be an automatic ejection. Safety is a tough position to play these days.
One of the most upsetting recent events that these players need to pay attention to how serious the amount of concussions they have and their history leading to CTE is Demaryius Thomas. His epilepsy issues from CTE were no joke and he was only 33
Do those guardian caps really work? I’ve seen people like advertising that they “reduce concussion risk” but a lot of players have questioned their effectiveness. And do they measure how much they reduce concussions
Doc, could the individual holding down Olave's hands (when in the posturing position) be doing so to reduce the visual impact it would have on the fans? We know the NFL is aware of how culture is shifting because of the injuries happening week in and week out, especially regarding concussions.
Dr. Sutterer, What do you think about this: Instead of relying on athletes self-reporting (especially in cases where it’s not obvious a concussion has been sustained) what if there was something designed into the helmet that would disengage the face mask 20 seconds after impact when the helmet detects an impact beyond the concussion threshold. I’m thinking it could be an analog setup that can’t be switched on or off with electronics, but an internal component rigged like a mousetrap or a boobytrap. It would force the player out of the game and would be practically impossible to hide. Is this too impractical for the NFL to consider?
That was a shitty hit. That defender clearly saw the ball was not in Olaves possession so why hit the man? That’s a conversation because that in my opinion is dirty. Why hit someone without the ball?
I don't understand why the other player deem it necessary to hit the player and sandwich him. Then he threw up his hands after he got the guy. He knew what he was doing
I don't know what can be done about it, but I find the most sickening move of football is the defense move to collide with a receiver as aggressively forceful as possible, to knock out a completed pass. I think a lot of this injurious moves could be relieved if the NFL granted a reception if the ball was caught, & did not take away credit for a reception by a defender making such a move. Many people would not agree, but it is just too dangerous/ too hard on the bodies/ too aggressive/ too violent, & I personally do not like this one feature of football. I much more applaud defense moves such as jumping up & swatting away a pass, or trying to snag it for an interception. The NFL tried to stop injuries, by changes such as with the kickoffs. But I think this defense move, of disrupting a reception by aggressive collision after a catch is worst
I'm sorry but number 25 had time to pull off. He hid him as hard as he could. Even though he's seen he didn't have the ball, he should be thrown out of the nfl, suspend it
This is sad. The dirty part about this play is the defender knew that he didn't catch the ball, yet still decided to light him up. If you want to claim his momentum is the reason he couldn't avoid hitting him, then he still could've eased up. I don't believe he tried to give the dude a concussion, but the problem with football is that these players have been conditioned not to care about the lives of themselves and each other beyond the game.
I really love your videos. Back in the 80s, shortly after I graduated I was wanting to get into sports medicine. Unfortunately, I don't have the brain to do it. I am fascinated with it still. The brain is such an amazing part of the human anatomy that we, as humans, know so little about. Granted, we are learning more all the time. I believe that this player came back too soon from his last concussion. I had a severe concussion from being thrown from a horse that lasted about three months. It was definitely not a very fun three months. This brings me to a question I have about boxing. Some fighters can take a lot of hit to the head without any problems, yet others get knocked right out. I am wondering why this is. Also, even if a fighter shows no signs of a concussion after a fight, there must be some kind of brain injury unless they never took a shot to the head. The other thing about boxing is a punch to the liver area. I am curious about these injuries. Could you do a segment or 2 on boxing injuries. Thanks. 🇨🇦
Time for the Saints to step in and say Chris For your own health we will honor the rest of your contract but you will not play football for us or anybody else for the length of your contract.
Unlucky all around. The defender didn't mean to injure him, he actually tried to slow up and he didn't launch, just the impact happened to be at just the wrong spot. I hope Olave recovers. I also hope he switches to a Guardian helmet -- if he chooses to continue playing at all.
I think your sport needs to take a page from rugby league. If 25 had made direct, forceful contact with the shoulder to the head like that in a league game, when he could have gone for the ribs easily, it would be an immediate dismissal. He would be ejected for the rest of that game and banned for at least the next 3 weeks
Look while there was nothing dirty about the hit, I have to question if it was even needed. There was clear seperation between front player and Olave when the ball sails over his head. I believe that the opposition player could have pulled out of the squeeze hit at that point. The hit added nothing to the play as it was already over.
There's a reason every ref on the field threw a flag. Looks completely intentional with intent to injure. One player holding the receiver while another goes for the head. Both Panthers players should be fined.
You say it’s not a dirty hit, but clearly the defender knew he didn’t need to hit him and knew he was defenseless, but still chose to rock him. It’s gratuitous.
It’s impossible to say what he should do as a fan, obviously we have a right to think he should either retire or wear a guardian cap but truly everyone’s brain is different. One concussion for one person could be the equivalent of 5 for another. The only person who truly knows how he feels and how his brain is doing at this moment is Olave himself. All the doctors and people around him can do is provide him with the best information that they can and allow him to decide for himself what’s best.
Dr. Trust me, the biased around Tua only subjects him to be talked about concussions than the entire league. So this issue Olave encountered will be swept under the rug and not talked about at all.
I think the extra weight of the defender behind him probably doesn't help as he gets sandwiched. I don't see anything particularly dirty about it. That's just the most dangerous part of the field for receivers. Hope he is okay.
As a Saints fan, Chris has been concussed every single year since his rookie year with us. I think he needs to wear a guardian cap, along with thinking about life after football.
A good portion of his concussions have him wobbly and legit not moving at times. Chris is an awesome dude on and off the field, but he needs to seriously think about retirement, due to how much player hit him in the head.
I agree, I've always thought that every player should wear the guardian cap since it came out. It's amazing though how much they are more concerned with looking cool on the field than their safety. My thing is if everyone wore them then nobody would look standout or look silly with it on.
As an Olave fan, I agree. But do we have data that guardian caps are adding protection? Would love if MDs would review guardian cap this offseason.
Couldn’t be more supportive of guardian caps/protective gear IF they’re proven to do something. That being said, if I was world class athlete, I’d put it on and tell the docs that I can be their guinea pig for their upcoming studies! Look at Achane
Thing with Guardian caps is that they have only shown a very limited ability (we're talking 5-10% at most) to prevent concussion, and generally only with hits involving the back of the helmet. A guardian cap likely could have helped Tua only because two out of Tua's recent concussion have been caused by his helmet hitting the ground on the back of his head, but unfortunately when talking about football, that's the least common for a concussion to happen unless you're a QB. It'd be cool if Guardian caps worked, but they just really don't for the most part.
@@dayvedreamin3437these players need to be forced to wear it, plainly. They have to wear seatbelts on the road, that's life. It's for their own protection.
@@Bob-fj7lr Agreed! the decision might have to be taken out of their hands!
His concussion history is scary
He may have to consider retirement
Lot of bad QBs throwing him into danger
I'm not trying to be jerk but this is football it's a violent game and on this play his qb is the blame he should have put the ball on his numbers and not up in the air so he can get down
Reminds me a lot of Tua
NFL
Should just giv him a pocket change contract and dismiss him for his health
Video response time is always 11/10. I saw the injury happen live on redzone and I immediately thought this video would be up in like an hour
get used to it
Olave hasn’t even hit the turf yet and the video was released
cause it was a fake injury and this man is legit a nfl paid " youtube doctor " for damage control
@@randomguyonyoutube253I doubt that he’s on the nfls pay roll😂 and I sincerely hope you don’t think that was a fake injury. Olave was straight unconscious for like a solid 20 seconds you can’t really take that
@@griffinalmes2706 explain how he comes out with videos so quick then 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 bro has a script if he wants to show medical side of sports why not do all injuries he is damage control all signs show
Prayers for Olave
Real talk sir I'm sending PRAYERS right now to this young man!
Damn shame that this keeps happening to him.. Such a good player and so young as well :/ would be sad if he has to leave the game this soon..
Prayer doesn’t work.
No its fake
I’ve passed your videos on to my son, who coaches football. Love the information you share in such a timely way!
Also playing WR Olave is much more at risk for these head traumas than say Tua is. There’s ways that a QB can avoid hits or get the ball out quick to not get impacted as often. For a WR they get crunched at the end of basically every time they touch the ball it’s not really avoidable.
Especially when you have a bad QB like Derick Carr. He throws into traffic too much, getting his receivers lit up.
The scary things about these head injuries is not only is the immediate danger concerning, but the long term effects can linger for the rest of his life. Not uncommon to find negative changes in speech, motor skills and cognitive ability decades later
The problem is the players are young and not thinking about when and if they get older.
They make multi millions for a reason. Don't like it, go flip burgers.
@@vmi4172 no shit he's just saying.
@@vmi4172they don’t make millions because of injury risks, they make millions because they produce billions for rich people who don’t put their bodies on the line. It’s truly shocking how little u seem to care about the health of your fellow human being, I hope u reflect on why you’re so bitter & apathetic because this isn’t a normal reaction to a concerned discussion about somebody’s health. Nobody even said anything negative about football, they literally just said he should think about his life after football & that’s how u respond… just shameful & embarrassing all around man, be a better person, care about the world u live in & the people u share it with
That’s why parents are no longer allowing their kids to play American football. They don’t want their babies to be drooling by age 40
Derek Carr with the literal hospital ball
I'm thinking he just came back from protocol and you have him running.......... cross routes? Really? 🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
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@@561REALTLKI get what you’re saying but if he’s out there he’s gotta be able to run whatever. It’s like saying a RB can’t run up the middle. If Olave was in such a bad spot he couldn’t do basic receiver plays he shouldn’t have been out there at all. Otherwise you’re having the worst of both worlds not using his full skill set and putting him at risk of re injury.
@@561REALTLKYou really think Carr is the one calling plays? 🤦
@@tracyelsinger1088no but he can’t throw a ball
that is what we call a "hospital ball" for a reason. Old school QBs dont throw that as often because of EXACTLY what happened to Olave.
This is true but that safety knew exactly what the fuck he was doing and that he was gonna blast him. It’s not all on Carr. That’s a fucked up hit.
@@michaelthoele1625 he lead with his shoulder just put flags on them if you defense can not hit hard football is getting soft
@@Saberwolves84 He drilled him in the head with his shoulder on purpose. GTFO out with that.
@@michaelthoele1625 Bad hit, yes. Worse throw, absolutely. Old School QBs don't throw that? BS, it get's thrown WAY too often and always has. The problems here are three fold and not all on Carr. 1. Terrible throw - that accuracy was garbage. Carr knows it and he will live with this (as a former D1 QB I threw a few of these) and it sucks seeing your guy get hurt because your couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with your pass. 2. While old school QBs certainly threw these bad passes across the middle, old school wide outs didn't go up after them. Incentives on contracts force bad choices by players. Back in the day receivers would not even try to catch these ducks. Instead they came back to the huddle and chewed your ass out for trying to kill them. Finally, 3. Yes I know it's a bang bang play but that hit was late - not a penalty late hit but a "I'm going to light his ass up" late hit straight out of Jack Tatum's play book. Dirty then and dirty now. Legal? Yeah, dirty oh yeah. Get well Olave, Carr owes you big time.
@@kbc163 really so you know players intent on hits? The receiver ducked his head what was the defender supposed to do? Learn football
Olave has had at least 1 concussion every year he has played
He had an injury like this 3 weeks ago
The injury play was reminiscent of Michael Irvin’s last play. I saw MI injury live but saw this just now and it’s time to say enough enough. God bless him
And his dream!
Irvin's injury was just a routine slant with an attempt by the Eagles to hit him in the head. Olave's injury was a garbage airball that was uncatchable, coming down crumpled his body much lower than normal, and I think the second defender was trying to pull up to readjust. He even led with the shoulder, which is what you're supposed to do, but Olave's head was positioned an entire foot lower than it should have been. One is bad intent, the other is bad luck largely stemming from a bad throw. They're like mirror opposites.
Damn absolutely frightening to hear that olave has had more concussions than tua! Whose been plagued with concussions seemingly every other month!
he's had way too many injuries like this in his career..i hope he gets better but mann
That’s what having Carr as your QB does to you
Mid QB, truly trash team mate.
Thank you for a thorough evaluation of this injury, done without histrionics or sensationalism.
This video underscores the need to discuss, walk through and rehearse scenarios involving an EAP so that when it actually is time to activate it, it's second nature. Career ending discussions on any level are never easy, but super important to be had. Great video once again Doc. Thanks.
Just noticing the LT Jersey in the background... Good on you man LT is a Legend.
I received a couple of alerts on my phone while I was at work, so it's good to get home and see a reasonable breakdown and explanation waiting for me - thank you.
(Bombas, eh? I knew you when you were sponsored by Untuckit!)
Thanks Dr Brian. Best wishes to Olave.
Thank youuuuu Doctor!!!
I appreciate these videos So much!!
I like football but I love the humans. Thanks for choosing to do these videos. I, like others, want to know ppl are okay. 😢
Prayers go out to Olave 🙏
I know thats a common throw, but man QB's gotta do a better job at putting the ball in a place were your receivers don't have to jump in the air and expose themselves like that..Scary hit thou
Nice breakdown and very informative 👍hopefully Olave is feeling better soon! Also, it is interesting that you hear and see more about injuries in the NFL rather than rugby where no protective equipment is needed. Why is that?
Doc. You’re THE best. Always a great place to learn.
Prayers for Olave. Concussions need my military career and I only had 2. Once since and I hope he makes the best decision for his life after football.
Thankfully he returned to the stadium and they said he will travel back with the team in the plane.
Thank you, doctor.
Very educational.
I suspect every NFL player has had at least one concussion, and nearly every player has had more than one. O-linemen never get knocked out cold like wide-outs, but they get slapped in the helmet every play.
Brain damage is like hearing damage: it doesn't take much, it's hard for the patient to recognize, and it's much easier to prevent than to treat.
As a neuro icu nurse…that was textbook decorticate posturing, showing signs of a severe brain injury
You know your stuff.
Thanks for the video.
For some reason, I thought that airway was always the first check to make in any injury situation.
I hope that he recovers completely even if he doesn't play football again.
Yo my man Olave is getting ravaged this year 😭 he’s so good when healthy this is hard to stomach
Who knows what will happen to him but I would like to see him on a new team next year. Heal up for a new beginning
The good news was they said he had movement in all his extremities so should hopefully have avoided a spinal injury
Prayers up for Olave. - Chargers Fan
Is it feasible the defensive player's helmet position immediately behind the injured as he was hit from the front increased the severity? Does the neck somewhat act as a shock absorber by allowing the head to move back? Like catching an egg with a firm hand, vs moving the hand down as it's caught so it doesn't break?
_Intentionally leading with the shoulder into the head is targeting. It's not only helmet to helmet._
Everyone on here about how Carr shouldn’t have thrown that but this is also that safety. He knew he was about to blast olave and he did it anyway.
I pray for Chris Olave!
That injury was scary😢
Really enjoy how you break down these injuries. I think it would be really interesting if you did a similar series of videos on past sports injuries that altered careers of sports biggest stars. Bo Jackson, Gale Sayers, Ryan Shazier, etc. One I would really like to hear your thoughts on is Sterling Sharpe. How such a low impact collision could end his career. Also thoughts on how modern medicine could have impacted their recovery. Thank you
This one honestly has me ready to quit fantasy football. I was SOOOO HYPED for Olave this week and this happens. Worse possible scenario for him I’m sick. Pray for Olave Carr doesn’t give af about his WR’s
The cap wont stop anything like that, thank you for admitting that.
I was placed on a spine board after being in a car accident. I was 100% conscious and alert. While I was pissed they were putting my on the board and onto a stretcher and into an ambulance I understand it was done solely out of precaution. While the spine board looks scary, due to some implications, its usually done just to be safe.
What do team doctors do in regards to his playing career and forcing him into retirement? His contract?
The transition from the Bombas ad to Chris Olave’s unconscious body is crazy
Bro reported this faster than Adam schefter
Players like Chris Olave and Tua NEED to start making better decision about their lives. BOTH ARE MILLIONAIRES, retire before you ruin your life.
It's up to them and their doctors.
If you're passionate about something, it's hard to leave it
They are on a path for a medium length career. In the 2010’s guys were retiring early. The days of 20 year players are rare because its rare to play that long. Based on injury history, Tua and Olave pro career’s look like they will barely last 10 years possibly less.
Most NFL career’s are 3 years or less but Olave and Tua are admittedly good players at their position and have big roles on their teams. It’s truly up to them and how they feel. They are young now but give it 5 more years of beatings every Sunday. Could be putting the body in jeopardy weekly. You dont heal as well at 30 plus than you did at 25 and under. Father time is ticking. Concussions are starting to add up, thats a lot of head trauma… :(
I had 4-5 in high school but I didn’t play any further. These guys are probably close to double digits honestly. I just hope they are okay and can still live a normal life later on. I know what the pain of a concussion feels like and I have empathy for knowing what their experiences may be. It’s not fun to have legit brain injury and you’re scared to sleep or look at anything with lights. Even sounds can be triggers to more pain in the brain, it sucks.
They haven't even been able to cash the real money of their careers, which is the second contract. A first-round rookie contract absolutely could set you up for six figures every year from investing that money, but that's assuming a player takes that route. There are a lot of figures taking money out of young players' pockets, from their agent to the IRS, and that's before you figure family and friends begging for money or the player being lax with their money assuming that the money's gonna keep rolling. Particularly in Tua's case, I would not be surprised if his family took a large chunk of his wealth. His father in particular seems very entitled to the fruits of Tua's success. Olave hasn't even finished his rookie contract, let alone signed a second contract.
I'm not saying they couldn't hang it up immediately and be alright, but it's not necessarily that simple, especially if their concussion histories eventually render them unable to drive or do normal work.
If the NFL’s independent neurologist recommends a player retire, Goodell should step in and nullify the contract so it comes off the salary cap, insurance pays it out, and the player is barred from playing again.
Obviously this is ridiculous and won’t happen, but some players seriously will only quit if they are forced to. Players like Luke Keuchly and Chris Borland retiring early due to concussion fear is unfortunately extremely rare.
How does the guardian cap add protection against a concussion? Won't the brain still impact the hard inner skull at the same velocity?
These guys DO NOT even realize how screwed they already are. It's ALREADY too late, the brain damage has been suffered and there's no coming back from it.
We survive. One day at a time. And yes we realize but we choose to ignore. All for the love of the game. We understand the risk and choose to play anyway.
@@SirJoey420 I highly doubt they understand the long-term implications, especially how ferociously the NFL has tried to deny any causality between head injuries and CTE. They get paid so much that it's easy to think that they'll be fine, just buy some pills with their millions, but that's not how it works.
It's very case by case. Never predictable. There are people who sustain multiple severe violent head injuries for over a decade and never end up affected very much, while there are others who can no longer speak after just falling over. Trying to condemn every concussion patient to a life of disability is uneducated and annoying.
@@evosteffthere have been studies on contact sports athletes(mostly amateurs)who died before age 30.
Over half had already sustained brain damage. Most common cause of death was self inflicted. Scary stuff.
What a weird generalization
I love seeing the doctor advertising socks in the middle of a player getting a serious concussion.
This is America
Yeah my kids are never playing football
your kids arent good enough lmao
@ im not talking about playing in the NFL dumbass I mean the sport itself
@@chingatu6644 they aint playing at all not just in the nfl obviously
@@seanaes that's what I meant. Not good AT ALL lmao
@@chingatu6644 do you think that every kid that plays youth sports is good? Idk what your point is
Glad to hear he's already out of the hospital but yikes..
So many concussions for so many players in the NFL. Very scary for these athletes.
That posturing is scary every time. Couldnt imagine it being my father or son.
If you don’t see a illegal hit you’re legally blind. The ball had been over and gone two plays ago when he hit him. The game was over when he hit him. Late bad unnecessary hit. He really had hate in his heart.
It was a clean hit. It’s Derek Carr’s responsibility to throw the ball quicker. Drew Brees often talked on this subject.
Prayers for Olave 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
I don't like bad bang-bang calls, but this defender had enough time to avoid this hit when Olave missed the pass.
Yeah this was definitely a pretty bad hit. He clearly wasn’t tracking the ball at all, didn’t care that his teammate was already draped over Chris’ back, led with his head, just so many things wrong with the hit. I know they are playing at a million miles an hour but this deserves a fine.
That’s how majority of safeties are taught. When you come across the middle you hit them regardless.
@erceewynnii3088 They're also taught to let up on a play when they see an uncatchable ball. He had two footsteps to react and adjust his launching point.
@@erceewynnii3088 there’s a difference between trying to get someone down and trying to decapitate someone
The only fair way to determine fine/suspensions is to measure the yards of separation at the time of ball contact between safety and WR. Imo, Anything at 5+ yards should be an automatic ejection. Safety is a tough position to play these days.
One of the most upsetting recent events that these players need to pay attention to how serious the amount of concussions they have and their history leading to CTE is Demaryius Thomas. His epilepsy issues from CTE were no joke and he was only 33
Do those guardian caps really work? I’ve seen people like advertising that they “reduce concussion risk” but a lot of players have questioned their effectiveness. And do they measure how much they reduce concussions
The sad thing is I read earlier in the week he was considering wearing the guardian helmet in the game. He’d worn it twice during practice this week.
Hospital pass. Arrest Carr
its crazy the narrative for Tuas injuries compared to Olaves. everyone was calling for Tua to retire, havent seen a single thing mentioned of Olave.
Love the Dr doing these videos although the whole “this video is sponsored by” thing isn’t my favorite
Doc is fast af on the update
Waiting for the Mahomes vid now…
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Doc, could the individual holding down Olave's hands (when in the posturing position) be doing so to reduce the visual impact it would have on the fans? We know the NFL is aware of how culture is shifting because of the injuries happening week in and week out, especially regarding concussions.
I hope he checks out ok!
Get well soon
Waiting for patrick video
Dr. Sutterer, What do you think about this: Instead of relying on athletes self-reporting (especially in cases where it’s not obvious a concussion has been sustained) what if there was something designed into the helmet that would disengage the face mask 20 seconds after impact when the helmet detects an impact beyond the concussion threshold. I’m thinking it could be an analog setup that can’t be switched on or off with electronics, but an internal component rigged like a mousetrap or a boobytrap. It would force the player out of the game and would be practically impossible to hide. Is this too impractical for the NFL to consider?
That was a shitty hit. That defender clearly saw the ball was not in Olaves possession so why hit the man? That’s a conversation because that in my opinion is dirty. Why hit someone without the ball?
Gotta maintain the C-spine. So awesome to see that training filtering out to players finally.
I really hope he’s OK.
"Finally"??? They've been using C-Spine boards in football for decades dude. Common practice.
Great vid and info! Could you diagnose what may be wrong with the Dallas Cowboys?
that's a team in need of a heart transplant.
I believe the procedure required is called a Jonesectomy.
I don't understand why the other player deem it necessary to hit the player and sandwich him. Then he threw up his hands after he got the guy. He knew what he was doing
Because it’s football.
I was just thinking about how you see less bad knock outs in football then I’d expect. I’ve only seen this a handful of times but it’s brutal.
I don't know what can be done about it, but I find the most sickening move of football is the defense move to collide with a receiver as aggressively forceful as possible, to knock out a completed pass. I think a lot of this injurious moves could be relieved if the NFL granted a reception if the ball was caught, & did not take away credit for a reception by a defender making such a move. Many people would not agree, but it is just too dangerous/ too hard on the bodies/ too aggressive/ too violent, & I personally do not like this one feature of football. I much more applaud defense moves such as jumping up & swatting away a pass, or trying to snag it for an interception. The NFL tried to stop injuries, by changes such as with the kickoffs. But I think this defense move, of disrupting a reception by aggressive collision after a catch is worst
That’s on Carr.
I think there should be a limit to how many concussions a player can get
I'm sorry but number 25 had time to pull off. He hid him as hard as he could. Even though he's seen he didn't have the ball, he should be thrown out of the nfl, suspend it
This is sad. The dirty part about this play is the defender knew that he didn't catch the ball, yet still decided to light him up. If you want to claim his momentum is the reason he couldn't avoid hitting him, then he still could've eased up. I don't believe he tried to give the dude a concussion, but the problem with football is that these players have been conditioned not to care about the lives of themselves and each other beyond the game.
Right because it is so easy to just ease up tell me more about how you have never played football before
@Saberwolves84 You're only exposing yourself, my friend
I really love your videos. Back in the 80s, shortly after I graduated I was wanting to get into sports medicine. Unfortunately, I don't have the brain to do it. I am fascinated with it still.
The brain is such an amazing part of the human anatomy that we, as humans, know so little about. Granted, we are learning more all the time.
I believe that this player came back too soon from his last concussion. I had a severe concussion from being thrown from a horse that lasted about three months. It was definitely not a very fun three months.
This brings me to a question I have about boxing. Some fighters can take a lot of hit to the head without any problems, yet others get knocked right out. I am wondering why this is. Also, even if a fighter shows no signs of a concussion after a fight, there must be some kind of brain injury unless they never took a shot to the head.
The other thing about boxing is a punch to the liver area. I am curious about these injuries. Could you do a segment or 2 on boxing injuries.
Thanks. 🇨🇦
It should be mandatory to wear the guardian cap if you've had a number of con cus.
Dem nyquil balls man prayers up to Olave💯🙏
Theres no point in Olave returning this season. Saints season is cooked anyway.
This is what happens when you have a terrible QB who doesn’t care.
Google Sled head New York Times, do a video on team usa winter Olympic CTE/suicide
Time for the Saints to step in and say Chris For your own health we will honor the rest of your contract but you will not play football for us or anybody else for the length of your contract.
Unlucky all around. The defender didn't mean to injure him, he actually tried to slow up and he didn't launch, just the impact happened to be at just the wrong spot.
I hope Olave recovers. I also hope he switches to a Guardian helmet -- if he chooses to continue playing at all.
I think your sport needs to take a page from rugby league. If 25 had made direct, forceful contact with the shoulder to the head like that in a league game, when he could have gone for the ribs easily, it would be an immediate dismissal. He would be ejected for the rest of that game and banned for at least the next 3 weeks
Are concussion histories like Olaves kind of like in combat sports where at some point the brain will just shut off very easily to protect itself??
Look while there was nothing dirty about the hit, I have to question if it was even needed.
There was clear seperation between front player and Olave when the ball sails over his head.
I believe that the opposition player could have pulled out of the squeeze hit at that point. The hit added nothing to the play as it was already over.
There's a reason every ref on the field threw a flag. Looks completely intentional with intent to injure. One player holding the receiver while another goes for the head. Both Panthers players should be fined.
That's 100% on Carr. Textbook definition of a hospital ball he thrown. Brady would've chewn him out big time if he was working this game.
You say it’s not a dirty hit, but clearly the defender knew he didn’t need to hit him and knew he was defenseless, but still chose to rock him. It’s gratuitous.
I hope he doesn’t end up like AB
I like Bombas ❤
It’s impossible to say what he should do as a fan, obviously we have a right to think he should either retire or wear a guardian cap but truly everyone’s brain is different. One concussion for one person could be the equivalent of 5 for another. The only person who truly knows how he feels and how his brain is doing at this moment is Olave himself. All the doctors and people around him can do is provide him with the best information that they can and allow him to decide for himself what’s best.
He got knocked the fuck out
American Football needs to be dropped as a sport. Sadly though there's too much money involved with it.
Does the urinary incontinence raise more concern of trauma to the brain or is it a common occurrence?
Dr. Trust me, the biased around Tua only subjects him to be talked about concussions than the entire league. So this issue Olave encountered will be swept under the rug and not talked about at all.
At least Tua stays clean 90 percent of the time…… Olave gets hit every play 😬
I think the extra weight of the defender behind him probably doesn't help as he gets sandwiched. I don't see anything particularly dirty about it. That's just the most dangerous part of the field for receivers. Hope he is okay.