OW what a mess 😏I am sorry for you. But I have a story as well 😂🤣 Something with a wort transfer to the F80 and the hose fell out the fermenter... panic! I was not shutting down the pump but grabbed the hose and put it back in... wort of OG 1.065 on wall, F80 jacket, floor, pump, temp controller, troll table and MANY other parts in the brewery. I feel your pain, yours is worse ☺ Awesome video mate, thanks for sharing cheers! 🍻
The sponge I was using is softer than a scrub daddy, although my old work we polished medical devices made of stainless with 3M belts.. The video is also entitled "initial clean" you got to get into that grease and left over polish which often sits in places just like where your gunk was stuck and top of ports CIP misses. You also may not have known because I haven't talked about it but I made that video at the end of a brewing technical school class on CIP, they didn't have a video to play to the students so I made one suitable that includes most of the information included in the course about CIP. It wasn't to scare or turn people off, it was facts on what could happen, not everyone is using a 6 gallon fermenter some have craft or micro breweries that haven't been trained correctly on all the dangers and regularly watch my channel, not including the dangers would have been wrong. I am trying to turn people off using Caustic at home and that was the section that included the dangers if you rewatch... I said I don't recommend it, it doesn't work well for grease but if you really must use it here's some info... Caustic has to be run much hotter than PBW and that's where dangers lie, besides just the caustic danger, and the dangers of caustic and CO2, plus it degrades its effectiveness. You can see in any group where what cleaner is used on a conical and a heap will say use Caustic. Everything I said about Caustic was to turn people off using it at home. Cheers
I should also add if you do think its ok to have a vacuum pressure because your fermenter is small and "tough" you might not want to put your gauge or other sensitive equipment under that pressure, better safe than sorry. Cheers
Glad you're ok, and dayum, what a mess. I have made myself written SOP sheets for major operations (CIP, transferring beer, kegging, etc.) that lists each step in order, and what to do for each one. Most times I just need to glace at it, but I've often found them a lifesaver if I'm distracted. They make sure something like this doesn't happen. Pro breweries have them all over the place, because if something like you experienced happens on a 20bbl unitank, the results can be disastrously dangerous. Just food for thought. Great video, as always. Cheers!
Thank you. That's not a bad idea at all. I need to do something. I'm usually really careful but when you get sidetracked and in a hurry, mistakes happen...
Great to see humility when admitting mistakes. CIP is great to get the process moving along and do other tasks at the same time. I use Saniclean with CIP in my unitanks before filling. What product do you use to sanitize?
i really like that idea for the CIP connected to the hose. brilliant sir. I am going to have to use that idea. I still need to purchase a good unitank/fermenter that can do 5-15 gallon batches.
Good to see you got the ports clean as a whistle, that gunk on the thermowell ends up in the bucket anyway so no big deal. I bucket all my fittings and just pump through into the bucket but I don’t recirc back through, I just use my Brewzilla as a reservoir/pump. I just don’t have a pump that’s good enough haha Regarding vacuum from cool water, when I’ve CIP’d 100 or 200 hectolitre tanks in winter you hear the air sucking in as it cools after hot rinsing, we’d pulse it to cool it down though to sani with cold water. Definitely need to be careful but like you said on the smaller tanks there is less air volume and less thermal mass, these also aren’t insulated like commercial tanks so actually chill down quicker naturally.
Did something similar a few weeks back, dumping the yeast before cleaning and forgot I’d bumped the pressure up a bit for transfer. Face full of gunk, no injuries, lesson learned and some photos of me to make my mates laugh. Plus a lot of additional unplanned cleaning! 😂
I helped out at Half Acre brewery and got to ask the head brewmaster at the time (Gabe) what the funniest brewery accident they had. It was very similar to this, but just dry hopping an open vessel (20' high by maybe 8' wide?) with a new variant of uncarbonated beer they hadn't played around with before and apparently hadn't attenuated out enough. While he was dumping in the hops (too fast against advice) Gabe heard an odd sound coming from the sides of the vessel that he described as "angry beer sounds" and yelled for his buddy to get off the (20' ?) ladder and away from the top port. He didn't get away in time but was able to loop his forearm onto one of the handles alongside the port as the ladder came crashing down and beer sprayed all over his face and several feet into the air all around the brewery before they got the ladder underneath his feet again.. Gabe said the guy's beard was an upside down V and covered in trub and his safety goggles were filled with it too. Similarly they were all incredibly grateful this was just funny and not a tragic story of how someone permanently injured themselves. Anyway, it happens to the pros too :D th-cam.com/video/Zn2oQR5p_fc/w-d-xo.html (similar scenario, similar vessel size) Glad your'e ok and it wasn't too costly of a mistake.
I once opened the jar without removing the pressure, and I was also very scared... And about the same mess to clean 😅 For the CIP I prefer to disassemble and rinse the clamps before putting the CIP ball in. That way I can clean, rinse and disinfect with peracetic acid without opening the fermenter, through the ball. Thanks for the video
Thanks for the video! I'm new with the world of unitanks and now have a X3. I also picked up the CIP Spray Ball, but was looking at the best way to return the liquid. Were you originally planning on using the flex chamber to help with the return? In the video what did you have attached to your bottom 3" tc port? Did you use a reducer to a 1.5tc?
That's awesome! Yes, at the bottom I'm using a 3-in reducer down to the sizes of my cap lines. amzn.to/4iN7OBJ It's also important to use fittings with the largest aperture. I'll link another one below. amzn.to/3BCYNuk
Im surprised that the spike pump had enough head pressure to drive the CIP ball. I did not think thouse magnetic coupled homebrew pumps could do it. With that said have you tried other pumps? Submersion pumps, or the riptide? Is the spike pump the best for homebrew CIP setups?
It's beginning to look that if one had say, a Brewtools unitank one has to dismantle and clean all the various componets then put them back together rather than just circulating cleaning fluid in the tank in its user configuration.
This is just my preferred way to do it. I'm sure there's other ways that work just as well. I've not had any sort of contamination issue yet. Knock on wood lol
OW what a mess 😏I am sorry for you. But I have a story as well 😂🤣 Something with a wort transfer to the F80 and the hose fell out the fermenter... panic! I was not shutting down the pump but grabbed the hose and put it back in... wort of OG 1.065 on wall, F80 jacket, floor, pump, temp controller, troll table and MANY other parts in the brewery. I feel your pain, yours is worse ☺ Awesome video mate, thanks for sharing cheers!
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Oh my goodness what a mess 😳. The cip with the garden hose is brilliant. You are a legend. 🍻
Yes it was and thank you 🍻🍻
The sponge I was using is softer than a scrub daddy, although my old work we polished medical devices made of stainless with 3M belts.. The video is also entitled "initial clean" you got to get into that grease and left over polish which often sits in places just like where your gunk was stuck and top of ports CIP misses. You also may not have known because I haven't talked about it but I made that video at the end of a brewing technical school class on CIP, they didn't have a video to play to the students so I made one suitable that includes most of the information included in the course about CIP. It wasn't to scare or turn people off, it was facts on what could happen, not everyone is using a 6 gallon fermenter some have craft or micro breweries that haven't been trained correctly on all the dangers and regularly watch my channel, not including the dangers would have been wrong. I am trying to turn people off using Caustic at home and that was the section that included the dangers if you rewatch... I said I don't recommend it, it doesn't work well for grease but if you really must use it here's some info... Caustic has to be run much hotter than PBW and that's where dangers lie, besides just the caustic danger, and the dangers of caustic and CO2, plus it degrades its effectiveness. You can see in any group where what cleaner is used on a conical and a heap will say use Caustic. Everything I said about Caustic was to turn people off using it at home. Cheers
I should also add if you do think its ok to have a vacuum pressure because your fermenter is small and "tough" you might not want to put your gauge or other sensitive equipment under that pressure, better safe than sorry. Cheers
Cheers mate 🍻
Glad you're ok, and dayum, what a mess. I have made myself written SOP sheets for major operations (CIP, transferring beer, kegging, etc.) that lists each step in order, and what to do for each one. Most times I just need to glace at it, but I've often found them a lifesaver if I'm distracted. They make sure something like this doesn't happen. Pro breweries have them all over the place, because if something like you experienced happens on a 20bbl unitank, the results can be disastrously dangerous. Just food for thought. Great video, as always. Cheers!
Thank you. That's not a bad idea at all. I need to do something. I'm usually really careful but when you get sidetracked and in a hurry, mistakes happen...
Holy shit! Mess is an understatement. Cheers!
Yes it is 🍻🍻
I'm here for the big BOOM!!
Haha Love you, Trent 🍻🍻
Damn, glad you’re okay! I’m sure a beer or two was consumed after that cleanup session 🤣
Thank you. You better believe I washed my sorrows away lol 🍻
Great to see humility when admitting mistakes. CIP is great to get the process moving along and do other tasks at the same time. I use Saniclean with CIP in my unitanks before filling. What product do you use to sanitize?
Yes thank you this is the one I typically use. They have another one called sanclean which I also use but foams a little bit more.
amzn.to/49NrmCb
i really like that idea for the CIP connected to the hose. brilliant sir. I am going to have to use that idea. I still need to purchase a good unitank/fermenter that can do 5-15 gallon batches.
There are quite a few options. A couple are better than others though 😉
Thank you very much for watching 🍻
@ recommendations on a stainless fermenter that can do 5-10 gallon batches, with thermowell and pressure capable?
A lesson for everyone I think :)
Yes and especially stay humble lol no matter how hard it is 🍻
@@PortlyGentleman And always keep cleaning equipment handy haha
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Good to see you got the ports clean as a whistle, that gunk on the thermowell ends up in the bucket anyway so no big deal.
I bucket all my fittings and just pump through into the bucket but I don’t recirc back through, I just use my Brewzilla as a reservoir/pump.
I just don’t have a pump that’s good enough haha
Regarding vacuum from cool water, when I’ve CIP’d 100 or 200 hectolitre tanks in winter you hear the air sucking in as it cools after hot rinsing, we’d pulse it to cool it down though to sani with cold water. Definitely need to be careful but like you said on the smaller tanks there is less air volume and less thermal mass, these also aren’t insulated like commercial tanks so actually chill down quicker naturally.
Nice 🍻
Did something similar a few weeks back, dumping the yeast before cleaning and forgot I’d bumped the pressure up a bit for transfer. Face full of gunk, no injuries, lesson learned and some photos of me to make my mates laugh. Plus a lot of additional unplanned cleaning! 😂
Definitely stay focused lol 😂🤣🍻🍻
RIP Lens - but good message!
Story of My Life most lessons are costly ones lol 🤣
What size of hose do you recommend to use on the blinchmann pump to cip?
I helped out at Half Acre brewery and got to ask the head brewmaster at the time (Gabe) what the funniest brewery accident they had. It was very similar to this, but just dry hopping an open vessel (20' high by maybe 8' wide?) with a new variant of uncarbonated beer they hadn't played around with before and apparently hadn't attenuated out enough. While he was dumping in the hops (too fast against advice) Gabe heard an odd sound coming from the sides of the vessel that he described as "angry beer sounds" and yelled for his buddy to get off the (20' ?) ladder and away from the top port. He didn't get away in time but was able to loop his forearm onto one of the handles alongside the port as the ladder came crashing down and beer sprayed all over his face and several feet into the air all around the brewery before they got the ladder underneath his feet again.. Gabe said the guy's beard was an upside down V and covered in trub and his safety goggles were filled with it too. Similarly they were all incredibly grateful this was just funny and not a tragic story of how someone permanently injured themselves. Anyway, it happens to the pros too :D th-cam.com/video/Zn2oQR5p_fc/w-d-xo.html (similar scenario, similar vessel size)
Glad your'e ok and it wasn't too costly of a mistake.
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It's like shaking up your buddy's beer at a high school party 100 fold.
FML yes 🤣🍻
I once opened the jar without removing the pressure, and I was also very scared... And about the same mess to clean 😅
For the CIP I prefer to disassemble and rinse the clamps before putting the CIP ball in. That way I can clean, rinse and disinfect with peracetic acid without opening the fermenter, through the ball.
Thanks for the video
My pleasure! 🍻
Thanks for the video! I'm new with the world of unitanks and now have a X3. I also picked up the CIP Spray Ball, but was looking at the best way to return the liquid. Were you originally planning on using the flex chamber to help with the return? In the video what did you have attached to your bottom 3" tc port? Did you use a reducer to a 1.5tc?
That's awesome! Yes, at the bottom I'm using a 3-in reducer down to the sizes of my cap lines.
amzn.to/4iN7OBJ
It's also important to use fittings with the largest
aperture. I'll link another one below.
amzn.to/3BCYNuk
Im surprised that the spike pump had enough head pressure to drive the CIP ball. I did not think thouse magnetic coupled homebrew pumps could do it.
With that said have you tried other pumps? Submersion pumps, or the riptide? Is the spike pump the best for homebrew CIP setups?
@@nblracerI definitely have I've also got a riptide As up until this one came out it was my pump of choice
I agree. Liquid pbw has its time and place for sure. A gallon of that is $80 on Amazon. I'm good on that I'll stick with powder haha
Yes 🍻🍻
We have all been there
@@preuc3367 yes lol
5:56 and other WHAT!? I don't know if that's the word you want to use lol 😅
I'm dangerous sometimes lol 🤣
It's beginning to look that if one had say, a Brewtools unitank one has to dismantle and clean all the various componets then put them back together rather than just circulating cleaning fluid in the tank in its user configuration.
This is just my preferred way to do it. I'm sure there's other ways that work just as well. I've not had any sort of contamination issue yet. Knock on wood lol
If you brew long enough a huge mess is bound to happen. I made a similar mistake once and. other not quite so serious mistakes
That's true. The odds are continuously changing 🍻
Nothing worse than having smegma stuck to your probe 😬
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