I had my mum's one of these for repair last year. She hasn't used it that much since she remarried as her new husband drives, so it just sat in the garage unused. I stuck a pair of new batteries on it and it didn't work. Tried sticking 24v straight into the motor and found the same as you, so put a pair of new brushes in (I've got a selection sat in my toolbox, no idea where most of them have come from) and the motor spun up fine when you gave it power. Put it back together and the thing still wouldn't work. When you tried to drive it, the electric brake thingy would click twice and that was your lot. After a bit of poking with the meter, I called a repair place for advice. They were very helpful, turned out that damp had got inside the main brainbox that controls everything. I cleaned it up, resolvers a few dry joints, but it still didn't want to play, so ended up fitting a 2nd hand controller. The guy who helped me diagnose it did say that if you use them in the rain it is a common failure. He suggested if it is going to be exposed to damp then it might be worth popping the circuit board out of the box and spraying both sides with lacquer to provide it with a bit of protection
Well diagnosed and repaired POC. When you went out the gate, I was fully expecting you to reappear with something else to fix sat in the basket on the front lol. Cheers, Jon
Nice to see you’re still as resourceful as ever! I don’t know why your videos haven’t been appearing for me lately. I’ll look out for them now All the best!!
When I saw you take off at such a clip, made me laugh. Imagine someone throwing such a thing away, well one persons junk… as they say. Glad to see you keeping on top of things, though sad to hear of the ravages of time. You are an inspiration, to say nothing of entertaining. Looking forward to the next adventure. Wishing you all the best! Stay well, and Thank You. (From Cumberland, RI/USA)
A lot of these type of jobs turn out to be an easy fix. You've just proved though, the fun and games start when you have to strip everything else out of the way, to FIND the easy fix! Nice one, POC.
Nice job POC, what they want for these motors is criminal prices,and it figures a little cheap spring that caused the failure. Imagine how many motors get replaced or thrown away because of that. Getting old is the cruelest thing in life.
The problem is load ! This is a direct-drive system with fixed gears if it's pulling along a “ high end user ” it degrades the magnets . The range drops , motor current goes up cooking the brushes , tripping & melting plugs . The maximum legal motor size is small ( but the industry just over drives them ) . The current limit can be 60 -130 amp depending on the unit . The motor is under sized for the job but at the legal limit . So it will not withstand a over current for long . 60 A x 22 V =1320 W this is more than three times the motor rating at 200 - 300 W . The hi / low speed switch ( if you have it ) just limits the maximum output voltage . I'm not being specific here as I have worked in this industry …...
Don't know if youtube is playing up but none of ur recently uploaded videos are there. Hope everything is OK in the real life of Poroldchap hope to hear from you soon.
POC missing you videos! Speaking of missing videos, I swore you made a video where you are making a small boat. It has disappeared. TH-cam against someone making a boat and took it down? Hope all is well!
Your like me I take things apart and then rebuild it or junk it . I stripped my 1985 rascal 655 scooter completely to the frame then I rebuilt it but didn't use old parts I totally changed everything the axle the motor the tires and ripped all the electrical wiring out and rewired my way. Price between the original parts and the parts that I put in it ... Original $ 1,700. And the parts I put in $750 I have a more powerful scooter and faster scooter.
I notice that you’ve removed a couple of more recent videos. I much appreciate the portions of your experience, your life, and yourself, that you’ve shared with us. Although we’ll likely never meet, I think that many of us feel a vicarious connection to you. Certainly I do.
I had my mum's one of these for repair last year. She hasn't used it that much since she remarried as her new husband drives, so it just sat in the garage unused. I stuck a pair of new batteries on it and it didn't work. Tried sticking 24v straight into the motor and found the same as you, so put a pair of new brushes in (I've got a selection sat in my toolbox, no idea where most of them have come from) and the motor spun up fine when you gave it power. Put it back together and the thing still wouldn't work. When you tried to drive it, the electric brake thingy would click twice and that was your lot. After a bit of poking with the meter, I called a repair place for advice. They were very helpful, turned out that damp had got inside the main brainbox that controls everything. I cleaned it up, resolvers a few dry joints, but it still didn't want to play, so ended up fitting a 2nd hand controller. The guy who helped me diagnose it did say that if you use them in the rain it is a common failure. He suggested if it is going to be exposed to damp then it might be worth popping the circuit board out of the box and spraying both sides with lacquer to provide it with a bit of protection
yes but did they fix it or you ?
Well diagnosed and repaired POC. When you went out the gate, I was fully expecting you to reappear with something else to fix sat in the basket on the front lol. Cheers, Jon
Got to love the jar of springs... The dying art of keeping everything just in case! Great video thanks
Glad you got it fixed, most shops would have stuck a new motor in.
and charged you a small fortune !
Well done POC, great fix and great to know it'll stay out of landfill
Uncle POC, as usual, you are brilliant ... and hilarious! The sight of you taking off on that scooter has made my day :)
Nice to see you’re still as resourceful as ever! I don’t know why your videos haven’t been appearing for me lately. I’ll look out for them now
All the best!!
good idea to subscribe hit the bell and click the all option or you won't get notified every time I post a video
Learned a lot from your videos POC over the years. I hope all is well.👍
When I saw you take off at such a clip, made me laugh. Imagine someone throwing such a thing away, well one persons junk… as they say.
Glad to see you keeping on top of things, though sad to hear of the ravages of time. You are an inspiration, to say nothing of entertaining. Looking forward to the next adventure. Wishing you all the best! Stay well, and Thank You. (From Cumberland, RI/USA)
Glad you enjoyed it Paul
I hope all is well. I have always enjoyed your videos. All the best.
it has bean hectic of late but still in the land of the living cheers
@@poroldchap please keep uploading and sharing with us.
Nice video and a nice fix. Thank you for your effort.
your welcome
A lot of these type of jobs turn out to be an easy fix. You've just proved though, the fun and games start when you have to strip everything else out of the way, to FIND the easy fix! Nice one, POC.
I have a shoprider cobra i love it and .my doctors was impressed bye it and .medical approved he said
Nice job POC, what they want for these motors is criminal prices,and it figures a little cheap spring that caused the failure. Imagine how many motors get replaced or thrown away because of that. Getting old is the cruelest thing in life.
What they call "service departments" now a days is far cry from my day
if at first you don't succeed deep on digging - nice job fella - nice price too
Great find!!!
So it's worh keeping worn out brushes in case the spring will come in sometime.
Thanks Old chap.
The problem is load !
This is a direct-drive system with fixed gears if it's pulling along a “ high end user ” it degrades the magnets .
The range drops , motor current goes up cooking the brushes , tripping & melting plugs .
The maximum legal motor size is small ( but the industry just over drives them ) .
The current limit can be 60 -130 amp depending on the unit .
The motor is under sized for the job but at the legal limit .
So it will not withstand a over current for long .
60 A x 22 V =1320 W this is more than three times the motor rating at 200 - 300 W .
The hi / low speed switch ( if you have it ) just limits the maximum output voltage .
I'm not being specific here as I have worked in this industry …...
Nice fix. If I had seen it earlier I could have sent you new brushes! Very cheap on Ali express.
Wonderful you're awesome
glad you liked it
I hope you realize that if you don't get one as well she is only going to see you in the rear view mirror
Brilliant did you find the speed limiter
Don't know if youtube is playing up but none of ur recently uploaded videos are there. Hope everything is OK in the real life of Poroldchap hope to hear from you soon.
its youtube not me cheers
@@poroldchap glad to hear that, was missing your videos, they are much appreciated 😃
Amazing as always love it
I found piano wire was good for making springs.
great fix poc
cleaned up the COMMEN TATOR!!!!!!! you mean the commuter...
POC missing you videos! Speaking of missing videos, I swore you made a video where you are making a small boat. It has disappeared. TH-cam against someone making a boat and took it down? Hope all is well!
loads gone missing ! .. busy at the moment but will look into it
Brilliant. as usual!
Great save!
POC where are you? Hope you are OK.
going through hard times right now, thanks still in there and kicking
Your like me I take things apart and then rebuild it or junk it . I stripped my 1985 rascal 655 scooter completely to the frame then I rebuilt it but didn't use old parts I totally changed everything the axle the motor the tires and ripped all the electrical wiring out and rewired my way. Price between the original parts and the parts that I put in it ... Original $ 1,700. And the parts I put in $750 I have a more powerful scooter and faster scooter.
I would like to speed this one up but don't know how other than larger rear wheels any ideas ?
Nice one!
what a man por old chap.
Hiya POC, I notice you haven't posted for a while, everything ok at your end?
sadly not, will post a video shortly to explain all
@@poroldchap oh dear, I'm sorry to hear that. hopefully you will be getting back to your shenanigans soon. best regards, Paul
I notice that you’ve removed a couple of more recent videos. I much appreciate the portions of your experience, your life, and yourself, that you’ve shared with us. Although we’ll likely never meet, I think that many of us feel a vicarious connection to you. Certainly I do.
@@poroldchap I'm sad to hear that. Sending my best wishes.
Whats happened to you? Did you have the "vaccine"?
Now get it to go faster !