Who Invented Death Metal? (Metal Documentary)
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- Who invented Death Metal?
Today we're exploring the roots of death metal to find the band that invented death metal. We're going to explore early eighties extreme metal and also compare two of the giants of 80s death metal, Possessed from San Francisco and Death from Florida. We're going to explore the events that led up to the first death metal releases. So there will be some thrash and black metal in this episode.
Feel free to let me know your thoughts in the comment section. Enjoy this Death Metal history lesson!
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WHO INVENTED DEATH METAL - 1981-1987
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Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:30 The definition of Death Metal
1:22 Early Eighties Thrash and Black Metal
4:36 Who coined the term Death Metal?
5:19 Possessed Vs. Death
7:18 Seven Churches of Scream Bloody Gore
8:55 Extreme Metal (1985-1987)
15:04 Outro and Info
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VENOM WAS THE KEY..
POSSESSED WAS THE DOOR..
DEATH WAS THE WAY..
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Why is this so true tho cuz chuck said that venom in his eyes was the band that started death metal
@@dbdaylightsgames5747 Venom is everybody's inspiration. Cant blame them. Venom is fucking awesome
@@jeppyjep yeah I like venom but I’m not to big into there stuff but I can respect what they did they definitely did a lot for metal
Conrad "Cronos" Lant invented Death Metal and Black Metal, and he will try to fight anyone who says any different... he STILL wants to fight Quorthon over it, and he's been dead for 16 years.
However, if Cronos invented Death Metal, then THE TRUE FATHER OF DEATH METAL AND ALL EXTREME METAL IS LEMME KILMISTER!
Venom, Bathory, Hellhammer, and all the other First-Generation Black Metal and Death Metal bands all openly proclaim that their early albums are heavily influenced by Motorhead.
You guys, seriously, the term "Death Metal" goes back to 1686.
Issac Newton wrote in paper about alchemy:
"...ingestion of arsenic will cause death. Metal and metalloids like arsenic all have similar traits..."
Ya'll see that, right?
"...[cause] *death. Metal* [and]..."
He said DEATH and then he immediately said METAL.
Issac Newton invented Death Metal.
Period. End of story.
Plus he was a great growler His deep register was amazing. ;)
@@RuthlessMetalYT his riffs are also amazing.
Seems pretty legit to me.
WHEN YOU. EEN THERE, AND SEEN IT ALL AND DID IT ALL. REGARDLESS OF WHO CLAIMS WHAT. WHEN YOU INVOLVED WITH TAPE TRADING AND READING ALL THE FANNZINES THAT CAME OUT EVERY MONTH, AND KEPTYOU UP TO DATE ON THE WHOLE SCENE OF THAT PARTICULAR ERA. EVEN PUNK ROCK USE TO BE CALLED DEATH PUNK, AND HARDCORE WAS EVEN CALLEDDEATHCORE. SO, DEATH METAL IS IN AND LF ITSELF A SELF TITLED LABEL, ITS NOT A LEGAL TITLE STAMPED IN A HISTORY BOOK, IT WAS A STYLE OF EARLYPUNK, RITISH HEAVY METAL, HARDCORE PUNK, ETC.
@@waynefabra3599 ok say that but in english
Anyone else watching this thinking, "Is this whole video just a sample of my record collection?"
People tend to forget that Morbid Angel started out in 1983 just like Possessed and Death, so you could say that those 3 were the first known death metal bands.
Venom 1978
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@@jamiemoffatt50 venom's never been death metal, at most it was first wave black metal, even then it's more nwobhm and punk mixed with lower production and probably
Morbid Angel recorded some material in 1986 for an album that could had been released that year, but they were dissatisfied with the final result, and instead records were released in" Abominations of Desolation" album in 1991
If you notice the dates of the demos....POSSESSED...was the first to release......KAM LEE. .said a few years ago that Chuck wanted to do what POSSESSED was doing...
Metalheads never forget Martin Eric Ain or Chuck Shuldiner
legends!🤘 I'm glad that I saw Celtic Frost live with Martin Ain.
HELLHAMMER & CELTIC FROST are not Death Metal
Possessed are an amazing precursor to death metal. Legends! Yes, they named their song "Death Metal" but that doesn't make them death metal. They are an extreme thrash metal band, similar to early Sepultura, Sarcofago, or even at times Celtic Frost. But Death is, for me, the first true death metal band!! Still, it will be argued forever, since people even still debate who the first true heavy metal band was.
@@nightprowler2881 well yea of course they aren't death metal but they were very heavy for there time and defently have alout of death metal characteristics
@@nightprowler2881 They WERE Death Metal... that is to say, if you discussed this topic 20 years ago, there would have been no debate as to whether or not CF or any of those other proto-death bands were Death Metal. That debate is entirely a product of the definition of these genres "shifting" over the years, as the space became saturated and it was deemed necessary to start splitting into so many sub-genres with very transient boundaries.
Chuck Schuldiner found his Death band in 1983, when he was 16 years old, and he bring the Death Metal to the best to the top!
Tom Warrior (Hellhammer/Celtic Frost): "The song titles, the riffs, down to our stage names - everything was copied from Venom. We thought Venom was the heaviest band, and wanted to be heavier. Everybody thought we were a new heavy band, but in reality we were just a miserable photocopy. To this day, I regularly listen to "Welcome to Hell", and it has never lost its utterly unique aura, extremity, and aggression for me. It transports me instantly to the feelings and images of when me and [former Hellhammer bassist/vocalist] Steve Warrior used to worship this album on a daily basis.”
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Cherry orchards
@@rosemarydupay7834 LOL!
To me, Seven Churches by Possessed was one of those records that went very close to actual Death Metal, but Death were the ones who did play Death Metal as a totally new subgenere that is impssible to be confused with just extreme thrash
Absolutely Death invented Death Metal
But extreme Thrash is Death metal
@@felipevenanciovalim2553 not near it, thrash has remnants of blues in its solos, and is less brooding and intimidating, aswell as the vocal style is completely different
@@felipevenanciovalim2553 Then why is Extreme Thrash different from Deathrash
I agree.
I would put Sodom's 1982 demo as an honorable mention. That demo was groundbreaking.
yeah I included no demos in this, except those death metal demos. ;)🤘😈🤘
Necrophagia is always overlooked and underrated. A few of their songs are the scariest, most evil and heaviest I have ever heard in my 30 years of listening to metal... and I have gone DEEP into the rabbit hole
And Necrophagia’s first album season of the dead came out before scream bloody gore
Too bad they dont have much of a good discography.. And they are overlooked.. Its part of the reason why theyre not influential. But thats why they are so different, no one sounds like them.
@@orenom6704 they do have a unique sound for sure but I happen to think they have a good discography, even if it's limited.
@@arkham7034 They were recorded at pretty much the same time brother...and released the same year., mere months apart...(?) So yeah..As far as their music...it doesn't really floor you.. that's MY opinion. They're alright , but nowhere near a band like Death.
Yesi agree, Necrophagia, Master, Possessed all released Death Metal albums before Death
Schuldiner said : if Possessed wouldn't exist, Death couldn't exist.
Possessed are like proto-death and Death perfect it🤘
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Yes. And I wonder why nobody these days remember the terminus "Death-Thrash" anymore. This was used during 1989-1991 and descriped bands that are clearly not pure Death Metal, but were much heavier and brutal than normal thrash these days (Metallica, Slayer, Kreator, Sodom at this time).
Sepultura Beneath the remains etc. And even the first Cannibal Corpse.
@@Asgaia omg ths makes so much sense. when i talk to younger ppl atg is melo death and the death part trips me up. atg took thrash and introduced folk. folk is melody. hence gothenburg thrash. now they are'nt, but when in the u.s.a., they died. the melo death came much later. we are much less aware of what they did in europe, later on.
put on at the gates here, its "friendly" thrash as an ex would say
@@Asgaia I've seen that term thrown around for years and always found it so fitting for this particular era of Death Metal. Was it more common back in the day? In Germany, that genre was pretty big about 4-5 years ago.
Killjoy (Necrophagia): "I started getting into punk when I was twelve and stayed there until hearing Venom when they started. Venom had elements of punk but with a whole new twist. I was fucking hooked big time. And soon after, Necrophagia was created. So, to answer in short, when I first heard Venom I knew what I wanted to do.”
Necrophagia will ALWAYS be the first
RIP killjoy!
Punk sucks. It sucks hard. ‘Nuff said.
@@benedictdonald4338 moronic comment
@@SMVoid sorry. Read it. Believe it. Accept it.
@@benedictdonald4338 all I see is ignorance.
Possessed created Death Metal and Death perfect it.
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How did they perfect it? Seven Churches kills Scream Bloody Gore.
@@twikirobot6897 They perfect the whole genre. Scream Bloody Gore is the best for me than Seven Churches.
@@twikirobot6897 i think perfected like they made death metal kind of it own thing, possesed did death/thrash but death made it a different genre more than a subgenre of thrash metal, that being said i think scream bloody gore is better than seven churches
@@dvir12345 agree.
Slayer was writing death metal riffs in hell awaits and reign in blood. If Tom growled it would be death metal
yeah, pretty much if all these bands had jeff becerra doing their vocals maybe all of 'em would have been death metal. :)
@Raul Ramirez even tho I do consider possessed a death metal band, I think slayer had more death metal riffs and hell awaits is a prime example of that. Hell awaits is definitely protodeath. Seven churches IMO is thrashy death metal like early sepultura.
@@RuthlessMetalYT huge difference on Slayers 1st album SNM to Haunting the Chapel. Did Kerry King borrow some of Mustaine's mojo?
@@axxessmundi
Mustaine's Mojo?
Well if Dave is to be believed (!) then he singlehandedly taught everyone in the entire Thrash scene how to play😂😂😂
@@pauln6803 Kerry King was obsessed with Mustaine when Dave was in Metallica and he was temporarily in Megadeth pre Haunting the Chapel. Compare the style from SNM to HTC.
Aside from what's being mentioned here, I do find it genuinely amusing that there was a compilation released in 1984 called "Death Metal" which featured Running Wild, Helloween and Hellhammer on it
yeah. the genres were kinda messy in the beginning, that death metal compilation is cool though. 🤘
and funny that only one band is really death metal
But, neither band is Death Metal, more punk n thrash sounding..
@@chrisgaskins3596 that's why it's amusing
@@RuthlessMetalYT
That's because we didn't try to invent new names for everyyhing. Back in the day all of these bands were called speed metal. ALL of them. The new labels didn't come along till much later.
Seven Churches doesn't sound quite like death metal to me. It's close, but not exactly death metal. Scream Bloody Gore sounds like true death metal.
Death sounds like Florida Death Metal, just like Suffocation sounds like East Coast etc Possessed, Cannibal Corpse, Morbid Angel and even Death stated out Thrashy AF. In fact, the Thrash elements are one of the defining elements of OSDM. - Jeff/Possessed , (whazzup! ;)
7 Churches is way more Death Metal than Scream Bloody Gore. Kreator - Pleasure to Kill was 12 times as intense as those 2 albums combined
Actually, youre wrong, I tead interviews back in the day with Possessed. They did call their music, Satanic Death Metal, regardless, the bands all took different names and titles of their music, their was never anything set in stone as all these people who never even seen any of these bands before, dictated.
@@waynefabra3599 your wrong Kreator was way more Brutal and Heavy than Death . Endless Pain , Flag of Hate , and Pleasure to Kill were Death Metal way Heavy lot more intense than anything until Butchered At Birth was released. Possessed and Death were just Rock and Roll compared to early Kreator, so get your facts straight there pal
Chuck never intended to make a death metal sound according to him. He just made a simple, fast driven, angry riffs but for the fans it's a death metal sound.
In my opinion there wasn't a first band, a few bands with a certain sort of sound cropped up around the same time and their collective sounds and styles created the genre.
So I say that death metal was started by Possessed, Death, Kreator, Sodom, Venom and others together. As their collective styles is what formed the foundations of the death metal we know today.
But thats just my take.
@Raul Ramirez I can agree with that however I believe there had been death metal before scream bloody gore, scattered around various artists and albums but death was definitely the first band to have fully perfected the sound on an album.
hey guys, i'm from Brazil, and that's the first video i watched from this Channel, what a great pleasure seen Sepultura and Sarcófago been mentioned on this video, great job!🤘
thank you Sir 🤘
Brazilian bands played a colossal part in the development of extreme metal, I absolutely LOVE the South and Central American scenes of the eighties and the Asian scenes were also just as savage!
Vulcano should have been mentioned as well. Their 1986 LP was heavier than most of the 1985-1987 list.
@@elimalinsky7069 so very true, they are quite overlooked at times!
@@Svvithred Indeed they are.
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Sepulturas Bestial Devastation album is the first death metal release for me.
severely underrated release
That album sucks, though. They meant well but weren’t yet talented enough to bring it to fruition. Their very early stuff is pure crap.
@@benedictdonald4338 then go on to be thrash at best. its been a while but i remember drum heavy jungle beat melody every second it was't pure thrash and a mixture. not death. the drums like i said discludes them. it. its their sound, identity, no probs there. my problem is ppl calling them death.
I bet you're Brazilian, right?
@@Malegys No from USA.
Kreators endless pain always ends up on my old school death metal playlists tbh.
Yeah, Endless Pain is something of a sleeper. Not far away from the intensity of Seven Churches. :)
Total death!
Awesome vid!
for early death metal demos i'd add
Master demo- '85
all Necrophagia demos
Insanity demo- '85
Necrovore- '87 (very heavy for the year!)
Slaughter Lord- '86 demo
I love this stuff, there's so many cool old demos of really extreme stuff you just have to look for it.
thank you. :)
was hoping someone would mention Master
Yes, Necrovore!
Glad to see Slaughter Lord mentioned
I was into all these bands when the albums were released. Never divided them into such finite categories. All metal. All heavy and fast. All killer to my 17yo wasted brain. All classics by today's standards. But I'll never forget the 1st time hearing Melissa or Welcome To Hell... or Bonded By Blood! So glad I grew up listening to and watching these bands!
Awesome time, Cheers!
remember the time when every metal (subgenres) were called "metal"
You need more subs this is honestly really highly quality content
thank you, I just started uploading videos a few weeks ago so the channel is growing real fast. 🤘
Chuck played guitar, bass and wrote every single vocal on Scream Bloody Gore. So essentially he created that album by himself. Even if that wasn't the true start then close enough.
Right on
There are so g prior to the album record session where parts are composed by rick rozz
@@Alex-vo7lm Do you see the word invent anywhere in my comment?
@@swampcrypt That's why I said essentially
Kam Lee wrote the lyrics early on, but apparently Chuck changed them for the debut? There was a lot of talent involved in early Death.
Venom - Welcome To Hell started it all. Then Hellhammer/Celtic Frost and Slayer. Possessed - Seven Churches was the first death metal album. In 1986 we got Unholy Trinity: Pleasure To Kill, Reign In Blood and Darkness Descends - major influence on death metal style. In 87 Death released Scream Bloody Gore. Death metal was unleashed from the chains.
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It is crazy how music evolved in so short amount of time
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More like devolved. Now nobody even tries to write anything. They just press record and try to jam as many notes per second as possible to a random beat and call it a day.
@@Kudeghraw like who? You’re listening to the wrong stuff then
@@HateTheGameTX It's easy to get lost in a sea of music artists today. We have exponentially more. More importantly though, who would the right stuff be?
@@WALDENSOFTWARE whoever doesn’t fit the bill of his comment
Hellhammer - Apocalyptic Raids (1984), Sepultura - Bestial Devastation (1985) and Possessed - Seven churches (1985) are certainly milestones for the genre.
Was just about to comment Sepultura, I honestly feel like they're often overlooked in the history of Death Metal even though the sound of Bestial Devastation is way closer to Death Metal than anything on Seven Churches (not meant to degrade Possessed but in their early years they're just much more Thrash Metal than Death Metal).
@@erisesoteric7571 Right on! I just disagree on Possessed, Seven Churches is TOTALLY DEATH METAL, brutal, savage, satanic, rough! I suppose you weren´t there in 1985, any headbanger, mags, zines back then greeted them as a Death Metal band. I even remember some dudes bitching "oh this is too noisy for my ears!"
@@saandroosgobi9402 Unfortunately that was quite some time before my birth, I just think it sounds quite like the bands I know as Death-Thrash (but given all of the 80s Death Metal has quite a thrashy sound that's not too rare).
Venom 1978
Oh man, Apocalyptic Raids. Hellhammer has got to be one of my favorite Black Metal bands
Hola. Perdón. Mi inglés es malo . Por ese motivo escribo en español. Pienso que hubo una gran cantidad de bandas desarrollando la idea. Con esa mezcla de black, thrash, death. Pero, sinceramente. Creo que el género lo define justamente death. Antes de ellos, todos eran una mezcla de estilos agresivos , rápidos, y sucios. Gracias por el video. Saludos
I always thought of Obituary as "death metal". Slowly We Rot is metal gold.
They are, but it only came out in 1989.
Paul Speckmann (Master/Death Strike): "We started out playing this doom, Sabbathy kind of stuff, and around that time I discovered a 7” single from Venom-“Live like an Angel, Die like a Devil” and “In League with Satan” on the back of it. That changed my life. Bill Schmidt was fired from War Cry and he spoke to me about doing something heavier. I showed him the single and it changed his life as well. At the time, we started listening to Motorhead, more Sabbath, Slayer was around, but Venom was the band that spurned me to play more aggressive music.”
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Venom inspired everybody. No doubt about it.
I like the way you make this series of clips, and the effort you put into collecting reference songs.
For me it´s Possessed. But Chuck once said that Venom invented Death Metal :D
"Seven Churches" is not Death Metal
For me was Sepultura.but I think Venom open the door 🚪 for everything.thrash,Death and Black metal.I still like your opinion.
@Burkay Tanır Yeah, a lot of more extreme bands mentioned them as their influence
Chuck was an extremely modest guy, I don't think he'd have actually said "yeah I invented the genre" tho in reality he did lol
I've always thought that the difference between thrash and death metal was not in the speed but in the atmosphere.
In this sense "Hell Awaits" can be considered a proto-death metal album along with Hellhammer and first Sepultura.
Possessed were way too "thrashy" in their riffing and their fascination was all about speed and satanic topics on their lyrics.
The real step to the development of the genre is without doubt "Scream Bloody Gore" by Death with its hellish riffing and otherworld vocals, more than "INRI" by Sarcofago that also was a huge source of inspiration for many bands in the years after.
I completely agree
this, I always considered hell awaits as the perfect transition from thrash to death. Just the way the lyrics flow with the sadistic but fast riffs while maintaining a thrash metal framework.
I feel like Scream Bloody Gore, while important, doesn't do that much to advance the genre. My controversial opinion is that Altars of Madness is really where things get going. That album influenced everyone and their mama.
Maybe worthy to mention Morbid Angel already played Chapel of Ghouls and other classics back in 1986.
yeah, I didn't go into them, Master and Necrophagia and such. Maybe I should have done that
Morbid Angel for sure.
I think Brazil’s Vulcano deserves a mention for 1986 with their album ’Bloody Vengeance’, truly extreme metal. Otherwise, another great video!
yeah, there were several real aggressive bands down in South America back then. 🤘
Bloody Vengeance such a killer album. South America was so Damned instrumental in the evolution of extreme Metal.
@@Lazze376 sarcafago
@@joeyhammer6702 INRI serves as a prototype for Bestial Black Metal.
@@Lazze376 I would consider it more of a death and thrash metal cross over
Great video - well researched (as usual!) and featuring nearly all albums that I own. There were one or two there that I don't have/never heard of, so they're on the list. And props for including Onslaught - a band that don't get a lot of recognition and are often overlooked because they weren't part of the bay area or the Florida scenes (as they come from England) and definitely worth mentioning in the roots of death.
For me though, the 'first' death metal album is "Scream Bloody Gore" by Death. Possessed I think had too many black/satanic influences in their sound and lyrics to be considered 100% death metal. Of course Death followed up with the absolute classic "Leprosy", which is absolutely essential, and really nailed down the Florida sound.
What a great video - keep up the amazing work, and looking forward to what you do next!
🤘 thank you, I'll try to keep it up.
I think Kreator's influence in Death Metal is more substantial than most realize. I hear it in a lot of the early Florida DM bands such as Death, Malevolent Creation, and especially Deicide.
Hell Kreator is underrated within thrash as well.. one of the best bands hands down within the genre and commonly overlooked in favor of the big 4 of America. Let's not talk about the truth that they're better than those 4 though 🤫
Kreator DM jajabajabajbaba
@@nonosrendiremos...254 Ríete lo ayer quieras pero poco Kreator o Death Metal habras escuchado tu sino crees que los primeros de Kreator no suenan muy parecido a los de Death o Possessed por ejemplo. Lo mismo con Sodom o incluso Celtic Frost...
Endless Pain and Pleasure To Kill are death metal albums
@@FecalMattur They are in the German big four! I'm American but I'll take the "The Big Teutonic 4" Sodom, Kreator, Destruction, and Tankard. Tankard is the G4's Anthrax haha, I love both bands though.
Hellhammer's "Death Fiend" and "Triumph Of Death" from 1983 are worth mentioning. They both include "Death" in the title and sound very similar to the first Death and Possessed demos.
They were the first band I thought of when I saw the title of this video even before watching. I remember reading an interview with Obituary years ago where they said Hellhammer were a big influence on them.
@@eamonahern7495 Slowly We Rot is basically a compilation of stolen Celtic Frost/Hellhammer riffs
Cheers!
I'd say that Possessed "Seven Churches" was an extremely important record for death metal genre. Also we have to mention Sepultura "Morbid Visions" which is even more brutal and aggressive than Possessed's debut. Next steps were made in 1987: Necrophagia "Season of the Dead", Death "Scream Bloody Gore" and maybe some other aggressive stuff like Sarcofago. But if someone asks me about the first death metal album which has finally formed features of the genre - I'd say it was Death "Leprosy". 1980's - is a period when extreme metal genres like thrash, death and black walked side by side.
Yes to "1980's - is a period when extreme metal genres like thrash, death and black walked side by side." Back then, the only thing that really separated them was what they sang about and slight differences in the styles of their singing.
NECROPHAGIA Is the very first Death metal band... With sum old af demos.. Hail and Rip Killjoy
yes, some of their demos already were pure Death Metal without the Thrash elements, almost like they were time travellers
still mostly remained that way on what should have been their first album had they managed to release it, but then their actual first album was the closest to Thrash they ever got
We’re all obviously metalheads here, so I don’t know if it makes much of a difference who created what. We’re all part of one big weird family. Great video!
thank you
Nicely said Eric! 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽
absolutely that is the great thing about being a metalhead I personally like most subgenres of metal regardless we are all one big family
@@brianmurray7407 Forever brother!
@@ericbrucker yes we are all metalheads so we should stick together after all everbody else hates us
I've been waiting for a channel like this to appear for a long time. Good educational stuff, and a great way to explore essentials of a subgenre for anyone interested. Keep up the good work. I hope you'll do a video on NWOBHM or traditional metal in general at some point
Thank you, yeah it's been a ride so far. :)
You missed Vulcano, Master, Necrophagia (OH), Holocausto, Panic (Brazil) and a bunch of demos from the mid 80's like Terminal Death, Savage Death, Devastation (Chicago), Nuclear Death, Tempter etc
I think Necrophagia is also a pioneer of Death Metal with the demo "Death is fun"
Can't upvote this enough. Gets a bit dull when all you see mentioned is Possessed. I'd add Insanity, Death Strike and Samhain to your list too. Great list though!
@@DiegoLopez-uy5ng Absolutely!
I actually knew terminal death from my teenagers personally being from Chicago area. I knew the mall when they were in high school
yes, there is an endless supply of bands that I could have included here. :) Cheers!
Chuck is a legend, such a master. RIP
Thanks for including Holy Moses... they are so often overlooked.
Possessed are the first. They laid the blueprint and bands like Death, Necrophagia, and Morbid Angel carried the torch and took it to new levels.
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Necrophagia put out there first demo Death is Fun.... in May of 1984. And Possessed first demo came out around july or august of 1984 so.... and Heretic(Morbid Angel) had a demo that came out in late 1983 or early 1984. Really does not matter who was first but Death perfected it.
shame Necrophagia was on a great label, but it didn't have the best distribution. I think partly why they still get overlooked by Death/Possessed/MA to this day as being one of the first
@@nutmegriot209 The world wasn't ready for Necrophagia at the time. That album was like a death metal poetry album. It was overlooked and its a shame.
have a look on TH-cam at WHO INVENTED SATANIC RITE ROCK
Cool, great work, like always!! Stay Heavy!
1 possessed 1985- seven churchies,2 sepultura-1986 morbid vision,3 1987 same years two death metal albums,sarcophago-i.n.r.i and death - scream bloody gore.
Dude, your videos are great, keep it up!
Thank you Sir, I'll try my best. 🤘
Dude! It's always a pleasure watching these, as you mention some DEEP cuts. Citing Onslaught's material is proof enough, and it is refreshing as all hell! As for who or what kickstarted Death Metal, all that great early Extreme Metal stuff played a significant part in forming and sculpting the genre, but to get down and dirty about it, I'll say the following: Possessed were the first, what with the guitar tone, their choice of scales and that arpeggio thing alongside the thrashier riffs, and, of course, Jeff Becerra's growling. Add to that the fact that Chuck Schuldiner himself was a major fan and not only cited Possessed as the game-changer for him in terms of his own writing but having hung around them in the early days to soak it all in. Possessed started it, and Chuck went on to hone it further into what we can easily recognize as Death Metal today. Also, that Tampa Bay scene exploded after Scream Bloody Gore had dropped, so all those Venom-loving sons of bitches got their shit together after Chuck and co. were pummeling ears in that corner of the world. As an aside... If their influences weren't wearing bullet belts, they didn't start shit! ;-p
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these are so cool thank you for making them
Me personally, I have to go with Venom. But you present a great conversation and I totally see where you're coming from.
yeah, Venom were more of a speed / heavy / black metal band. 🤘
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really well out together,great job. Youre really uderrated
thank you, the channel is just about a month old. :) So I hope to become overrated haha
wow, a lot of bands I never heard of before in there! awesome video!
Thank you Sir!
Death is death regardless who coined the term first. They are the defining Death metal band.
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@@RuthlessMetalYT Great channel btw.
Chuck was influenced by possessed
There was actually a black punk group called death 1974
@@geedaviz7348 true story
Even the "Death Metal" song by Possessed is too thrashy to be called pure Death Metal, it's like the sound of that album is in the thin line between thrash/death and death, the transition (even the band continue that line, more thrash than death on their last records). But Scream Bloody Gore is pure death metal since the first track to the last, so in my opinion Death put the sound to the genre. Not even to mention that there were not death metal albums before Leprosy, another defining piece ahead of its time (1988).
Nice video
That famous Possessed track imho is sloppy speed metal that incidentally crossed over to other extreme genres *in hindsight* - I agree that Death is THE originator.
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Totally agree. The riffing and drumming is still heavily on thrash side on the early albums of death metal pioneers. It was a process to get to this new level of extremity. Using term death doesn't make it death metal. Kreator nor Slayer ever get close to death metal imho.
Great round-up! A couple of names which used to get brought up regularly in these discussions, but which are missing from your presentation... for a while in the '90s and early '00s it was pretty common for underground metalheads to claim that Necrovore invented DM (- although of course that was conveniently overlooking the fact that Possessed easily beat them to the punch); and around 1990-91, plenty of fanzines and so on reckoned that Paul Speckmann had invented it (something he himself never denied, for obvious reasons). Master and Death Strike were both up and running by 1985, but... personally I'm with you, my vote goes to Possessed every time. I can still remember the adrenaline rush of listening to Seven Churches when it first came out... I already knew what they sounded like - "Pentagram" had appeared on Speed Kills vol 1 - but still, "The Exorcist" blew my head off. The sheer ferocity of their sound just seemed to wipe the floor with EVERYTHING else at that time. So I would not argue with you :-D
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I was just watching your black metal video and got the notification for this one finished that one and here I am
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Mike Torrao (Possessed): “We kind of got a big influence from Venom. We had no influence from Slayer at all. Everybody thinks we did but we didn't. Kiss was like my influence to play guitar and stuff. I liked Ace Frehley, the guitar player, and then I grew up on Iron Maiden. After that, Judas Priest through high school, and then I got into Venom and that's when the Possessed thing started happening.”
exactly, the 1986 interview
No influence from Slayer my ass. They just got sick of hearing the comparison. There are sections in some songs on Seven Churches that are so close to parts on Show No Mercy, you can exchange the lyrics and it still works. Coincidence? Yeah right. One thing is certain - they both took what Venom started and made it sharper and more extreme.
@@twikirobot6897 the song from Seven Cherches you're talking about were on the 1983 demo that was released months before Show No Mercy
Well Done, I appreciate your dedication to this type of music
Thanks and Cheers! :D
Excellent video man! In my opinion, the first brutal death metal album was Effigy of the Forgotten by Suffocation, and the first slam death metal album was Molesting the Decapitated by Devourment. Subscribed!
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Death Metal's origins mirror the origins of Heavy Metal in general. Black Sabbath may have been the first Heavy Metal band, but before them there were other bands that released heavy metal songs. You had Purple Haze by Hendrix, Innagaddadavida by Iron Butterfly, Born to be Wild by Steppenwolf, Zeppelin, Alice Cooper, Deep Purple, etc.
Death may have been the first Death Metal band, but the first Death Metal song was At Dawn They Sleep by Slayer. That's the one that got the ball rolling.
yeah Slayer surely influenced a ton of death metal bands. 🤘
@@RuthlessMetalYT Deep Purple, first mentioned, Heavy Metal in a song, but they weren't ahravy metal band, so, does because a band says Death metal or sings about it, doesn't make them, a Death metal band.
@@chrisgaskins3596 no. thats why no mercys demo aint death metal even though they called the demo that.
@@RuthlessMetalYT So, your saying no, but, saying the same thing, I said, I know, just mentioning Heavy Metal, Death Metal etc, doesn't make u, that genre.
No one ever mention pink floyds careful with that axe eugene, it's for sure a first in the area of extreme vocals, very metal song for so early, id actually really like to hear a black metal cover of it, it deserves a listen if you haven't heard it
Pink Floyd? Lol gtfoh there is literally no reason to mention them here.
Thank you for taking the time! \m/\m/ Greetings from Colorado.
Cheers!
Great content! I like the fact that you cover Death Metal from both sides of the pond. Many of the death metal bands have 1 or 2 of the needed Death Metal Staples, but not all. Meaning, Deep Vocals, Palm Muted strings and Imaginative tempo changes. I would also add scary lyrical content and low guitar tones. I am so glad you mentioned Morbid Visions, Hell Awaits, Melisa. Many bands have released Death Metal albums without being Death Metal Bands. You of course are correct in Spotlighting Death and Possessed. Lets Also add Black Sabbath to the roots.
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Death: Scream Bloody Gore and Obituary: Slowly We Rot.
Possessed's Seven Churches.
Period.
@@montech5647 All of this shit started with Black Sabbath.
My 1st introduction into death metal was Deaths scream bloody gore. Then every other band fell into line after. Thanx and rip chuck. A true metal brother. And might I add, that scream bloody gore is one of my favorite album covers of all time. Absolute classic
Excelent video!! 🤘🤘 and i think it's pure evolution
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Tight. These have been fun little dives and pretty accurate per my knowledge.
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Slayer - Reign in Blood and Sarcofago - INRI was ahead of its time...a true templete for death and black metal genre
I dont know about Reign In Blood. It was released in 1986. Possessed already released their debut album in 1985 and Mantas/Death also has released a couple of demo that were pretty death metal before 1986.
More like Hell awaits not reign in blood lol
I left a similar comment on other videos. As someone that grew up playing in many different metal bands with older guitarist's from the 80's. Almost all of them say Celtic Frost was the biggest early influence on death metal.
Keep up the great work \m/
I will. :)
Loving this content. Would love to see one on folk metal, haha.
hehe, I've hardly even listened to that genre, I only remember Skyclad. :) and I think they were first. Not sure though.
The reason Possessed and Death are seen as the start of death metal is Scott Burns and Morrisound. He figured out how to record and mix the drums to get it to sit better and clearer in the mix, specifically the double kick drums. The reason people say Death was the first is because even though Possessed 7 Churches came out before Scream Bloody Gore, Possessed was still a bit trashy. Death was something new. Try and find an Xcecutioner demo, who would go on to become Obituary. That was 85-86 while still in high school. Brutal. There was something happening in Florida that was not happening in San Fran which was very trash dominated.
In my opinion, Possessed, Death, Slayer and Sarcófago were the most important. But you cant say that anyone created the death metal, death metal was a movement that happened in some parts of the world.
In Brazil it was first inspired by Kiss when they came to Belo Horizonte in 1983. A lot of kids got impressed by this show and then, inspiried by heavy metal bands, emerged in Belo Horizonte some bands like Overdose, Sepultura, Sarcofago, Holocausto, Sextrash, Witchhammer...
Great research mate!....your channel deserves more subs.
I just started like a month ago so it's going well. :)
i appreciate that you let the music do the talking. great video.
thank you, yeah nobody wants to hear my weird accent. haha
Nobody invented anything, it's purely evolution.
Yeh
Personally, i consider Hell Awaits to be the first death metal album. Listen to Praise of Death. Fast double bass, chromatic riffs, pretty much blast beats, guttural vocals, what’s not death metal about it
very close at least, Tom Arayas vocals were aggressive but I wouldnt say it was death metal vocals.
Hellhammer Satanic Rites demo '83, pure DM!!!!
Possessed were first, but the transformation was not completed, there was still al lot of thrash shining through... Chuck filled in the missing bits to create Death Metal as we know and love it.
I love these videos. Possessed for sure is the originator of the form I think. However, Death took it to a different level. I wish Chuck were still alive today man.
There are some overlaps too. As much as black metal people think their art form is purely anti-death metal there sure were a lot of similarities in the early days like it or not. Some of your clips are quite bold to the black metal community to even put in here. I like what you did sir! Great stuff!
Possessed created the term and started the genre but Death set the standards for the sound that followed.
Hard to believe Necrophagia wasn't mentioned at all, they should be in the conversation.
maybe so, I got lazy :)
@@schlenderman1589 go and watch someone elses videos if you dont like mine. my videos arent made so that you will get satisfied.
@@schlenderman1589 I never said I was a pro. Im just a fan. and now youre blocked cause I dont have time for rude doucebags that demand me doing stuff for them. so fuck off.
@@RuthlessMetalYT You could have handled this much better, no need for rooster fighting in here! Instead of saying "go watch someone else videos" , you could only say a simple "I do not say that I know it all, neither do I have time to prepare the perfect videos, that is why we have you in the comments guys, to write down what I may have missed , or to present a different perspective. ".
@@RuthlessMetalYT you call your video a Metal Documentary, yet you not only are conent with being ignorant of big parts of the topic you covered, you even tell the people who do know to leave. Before seeing your responses i"d have been fine with an incomplete video and having comments cover what was missing, but seeing your behaviour the only thing left to say is: you are no better than any other junk clickbait channel
I've had about 90% of the records shown in the video at some point in life. I have to say you are very knowledgeable in the arts of metal, sir.
cross over thrash and speed stuff as always many of these groups can be in the thrash section too. some speed metal stuff too. great video of all this cool old sick metal!
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Amon's (Deicide) Feasting the Beast demo (1987) deserves a mention.
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The tempo change in The Antichrist is fucking brilliant!
Slayers or Sepulturas?
@@RuthlessMetalYT Sepultura's song is just "Antichrist", Slayer's "THE Antichrist"..although Sepultura's is great too...
Great video and a reference to lots of ground breaking bands that had a huge influence on heavy metal and the formation of death metal, but for me Hellhammer were the first, they released 3 demos in 1983 before any of the other bands had released anything \m/
verry interesting. thank you for your research.
thank you Sir!
No Master/Death Strike? Cool episode though!
nah I got lazy. ;) 🤘
Possessed, to me, always seemed more like really extreme thrash metal more than death metal, but it's definitely arguable. I consider Death to be the first (with some early roots mostly in Hellhammer), but Possessed should definitely be considered. And at the time Dark Angel was considered more of a thrash thing, but listening to them today I can't really hear them as anything but death metal, even verging on grindcore.
The album Death - Human actually sounds like Death Metal. Or what Death Metal should sound like. IMHO.
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You forgot Death Strike, Terminal Death , and Master’s 1985 album!
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Speckman is a LEGEND
Those bands bring back my Chicago teenage metal memories when I used to see them in rehearsals and playing bars and all age venues
I think you should have given a mention to Abominations of Desolation, the first Morbid Angel full length recorded back in -86. The band calls it an EP nowadays but that doesn't change its historic value. In my opinion this album has much less speed metal influences than the first Possessed and Death albums, and more of that atonal, Slayer-influenced riffing.
That being said I think the argument can as easily be made that Celtic Frost invented the genre. If we look at To Mega Therion, it hits all the standards of the genre: downtuned guitars, odd time signatures, atonal riffs, guttural vocals and dark subject matters. They weren't as influential on American death metal bands though which has affected their historic status.
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I agree, Morbid Angel where there from the beggining of the " second wave" i would say. About CF: they had a big influence on Obituary ( or Executioner, another early band)
To Mega Therion came out in 85. Mantas and possessed was already doing death metal demos in 84.
People can call themselves any kinda names but do people actually name their own scenes that they probably don't even realise it exists yet? Is only needed when it comes to selling shit with its chessy marketing slogans. Slowly we rot is credited as the first official 'death metal' release and the first on a new record label to set up in the USA, roadrunner records which is synonymous to the whole scene more than anyone else and need to market stupid labels to kids. If ya look at the original release it is actually under 'road racer' and is the only one like that, I've still got it somewhere!? Possessed and repulsion wou o d be probably the first to make it unique and not just another thrash band but yeah, trey is definitely responsible for death metal more than he is given credit and I'm sure wouldn't accept either, the dude barely let's a photo or interview happen and shit. I think they were on there 5th drummer, and probably as many singers and bass players by the time abominations came out and all the big songs from all their first 4 and biggest albums are on the demo's in some form and is like 84 I think ? But blessed are the sick, rapture, abominations and another sign is a Florida or really Mexican band being signed to earache and not roadrunner, and abominations on metalblade and so horrible on another sign of them being too ahead of thei time f o r even the record industry set up around it. I honestly believe its morbid angel or just trey in particula, the morbid demo is the oldest and it still almost has the logo and whole vibe to them that set it a part from the thrash bands. Is not just a swap between skank and blast beats but those evil beats played so slow and half speed on the ride and the double kicks 9n another time zone underneath if. Wow, no one vam deny that morbid angel are 9ne of the greatest ever and trey is still relentlessly touring non-stop and doing shit how he wwnts to. The stupid guitar solos he does are the best thing he still does and on those same iconic guitars are probably more famous than he is!? Lol
Jeff Beccara started death metal in 1979 when he was like 11. It was obviously more like rock with brutal vocals but thats like the first origin of it in my opinion
Very interesting, I had many of these!
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Thank you for bringing me to Sacrifice. BTW, check out their We Will Prevail, one of the intro riffs is almost the same with the Annihilator's alison Hell.