An In-Depth Look At Sephiroth

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  • @4-8Productions
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    • @steak9194
      @steak9194 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      good work again and stay safe

    • @wren7195
      @wren7195 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hey, I love your channel, you've really helped me through some rough times, thank you. My best friend is also *A HUGE* FFVII fan, and wants me to ask you for him if you would like a full size "prop/collectible" of the Buster Sword. He also says he'll make whatever version you prefer, OG, OCC, or Remake. And if you call now, h------
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    • @Koniving
      @Koniving ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're familiar with The Spirits Within, you'd know where the omega weapon/chaos story came from and what it's leading to with Jenova/Minerva.

    • @MasochisticNarcissist
      @MasochisticNarcissist ปีที่แล้ว

      😊

    • @ma2perdue
      @ma2perdue 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wow fun video... You make some of my FAVORITE stuff on the whole Internet, death.
      Hey have you ever thought about the food in FF7? Where do they actually raise the beef for the Korean BBQ? Is it actually Chocobo meat??
      It feels like the Mako cities are very fallout canned junk and dirty water

  • @fulminairre
    @fulminairre ปีที่แล้ว +274

    I think Sephiroth started to become manipulated by Jenova as soon as he was in proximity to her at Nibelheim. She can do this because her cells are in Sephiroth. Jenova can't communicate but has been described to exude pure hatred and she has the ability to manipulate emotions. She used his insecurities to drive him to research, go crazy, and destroy the town to "rescue" her so she could use Sephiroth's body to take over the world. That's why some of Sephiroth's decisions seem illogical, unthoughtful, or based on misinterpretations while in Nibelheim - Jenova is biasing his judgement and influenced him so a particular outcome would occur.

    • @toasterglock8796
      @toasterglock8796 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      Isnt Jenova the one who manipualted the Cetra?

    • @FrankieMacRibs
      @FrankieMacRibs ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Nailed it

    • @BagOfSchlime
      @BagOfSchlime ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@toasterglock8796 I can't remember where it is, but it is said that Jenova appeared to the Cetra as their fallen loved ones before corrupting them.

    • @xxreyoxx
      @xxreyoxx ปีที่แล้ว +18

      I've been sayin this for years! Finally seeing someone else thinking the same. Jenova is def pulling strings as early as the Nibelheim Reactor incident

    • @7StringBlazer
      @7StringBlazer ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I've been saying this same thing for a long time too, and it places Jenova back as the main driving antagonist instead of a simple Macguffin. The way I've been looking at it is, as long as you can retain a strong enough aspect of what you believe makes you, *yourself* , she can't claim you for her control and her influence is slim at best. Cloud with his repaired psyche and context for events at the end of the game, Genesis with his obsession for Loveless, Zack due to being a generally good and 'go with the flow' dude, and Lucretia with her guilt and trauma, are all examples of people that retained themselves. Sephiroth, Angeal, Hojo, Cloud *before* he and Tifa pieced his psyche together, and I guess by extension the Genesis copies, were all people who broke mentally or weren't strong enough to retain their sense of self due to some sort of psychosis. For those that fail to retain their identity, her influence is stronger and you run a higher risk of mutation.

  • @davidharner2481
    @davidharner2481 ปีที่แล้ว +90

    Ok I love how sephiroth isn’t just the primary villain but also the primary victim of the game

    • @veilmontTV
      @veilmontTV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      He seemed like a god guy before nibelheim

    • @CASPB
      @CASPB 28 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Excellent point ❤

  • @Telepathic_Snail_Overlords
    @Telepathic_Snail_Overlords ปีที่แล้ว +41

    My dude. That is some top shelf head canon with Jenova being a rogue Omega Weapon.
    Don't let Nomura see that, LOL

    • @tavastian3288
      @tavastian3288 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      except the omega weapon was created after Jenova was sealed away

    • @Neo-Midgar
      @Neo-Midgar 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@tavastian3288Pretty sure he meant another planet's Omega.

  • @hayatojin2886
    @hayatojin2886 ปีที่แล้ว +128

    Seph is such a tragic character, he was a victim too, damn that Joe Hojo!

    • @billythenarwhal1579
      @billythenarwhal1579 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Imagine having a great and successful life and throwing it away because you found out your origins were fucked up.

    • @MaaZeus
      @MaaZeus ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@billythenarwhal1579 Which when you put it that way makes little sense and talk about over reaction, for a normal thinking human. But I am sure he was always a misanthropic megalomaniac with a god complex and learning of his past and figuring out how to wipe out humanity was just the excuse he needed to go over the edge. He started acting on his deepest thoughts instead of bottling them in.

    • @billythenarwhal1579
      @billythenarwhal1579 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @MaaZeus yeah but nothing about his character before that really lends to that tho.

    • @MaaZeus
      @MaaZeus ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@billythenarwhal1579 Well, I never played the prequel and off shoot games so I only have the information mentioned in this video about those. But if he has a severe case of misanthropy it doesn't necessarily mean he does not care about individuals, people he consider his friends or family, but he just has a deep hatred for humanity as a group/species and thinks world would be better off without them. That said I still find his 180 from super soldier with dark thoughts to a mass murderer a bit of a stretch unless explained with other personality disorders and delusions on top of that.

    • @billythenarwhal1579
      @billythenarwhal1579 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @MaaZeus damn you missing out, imo FF7 does side stories wayyy better than main stories, for me Intermission and Crisis Core are way better than OG and remake.

  • @raven577
    @raven577 ปีที่แล้ว +80

    I absolutely love your theory of Jenova being another Omega Weapon. Very intriguing!

    • @markmcdonald5681
      @markmcdonald5681 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Was said by someone else ages ago and that jenova was supposed to come from ffx because ff7 and ffx are linked

    • @shinmalestat9272
      @shinmalestat9272 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ​@@markmcdonald5681now that's an interesting theory.
      The Omega of FFX took all the memories with it to another world which gave rise to the Shinra we know.

  • @thfreakinacage
    @thfreakinacage ปีที่แล้ว +117

    Death, Hojo's first name is obviously Mojo. Mojo Hojo.

    • @craigsands2567
      @craigsands2567 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Must've been a fan of Powerpuff Girls as a kid.

    • @MrCantStopTheRobot
      @MrCantStopTheRobot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      SOLDIER candidates get infused with Mako, but Sephy got that dose of CHEMICAL-X.

    • @OmegaWarrior42
      @OmegaWarrior42 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Mojo Hojo...he's clearly an evil Jojo. His stand is One-Winged Angel.

  • @Omnicloudx13
    @Omnicloudx13 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Love your theory of Jenova possibly being an Omega weapon from a dying planet that sought out different planets to sustain her life. I hope more of her origins are explained as the calamity in the sky in the next remake games, she's such an interesting antagonist.

    • @billythenarwhal1579
      @billythenarwhal1579 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Maybe we can oneday get far enough into the FFX timeline for Jenova to appear as the Omega Weapon in that world.

    • @brianmckee2267
      @brianmckee2267 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I hope it's not explained too much. The mystery makes it more interesting as we can fill in the blanks. I've always thought jenova was essentially the thing from the John carpenter movie.

    • @Dracobyte
      @Dracobyte ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Like Lavos from Chrono Trigger?

    • @neetpride5919
      @neetpride5919 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@brianmckee2267 I don't get this. Can't you just not read extended universe content so you can have your mystery, but still let the rest of us have canonical answers? Why do you want to deprive us so you can deliberately remain ignorant?

    • @brianmckee2267
      @brianmckee2267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@neetpride5919 it's more engaging to not explain everything. See the Alien franchise for that.

  • @anthroposmetron4475
    @anthroposmetron4475 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    There is some context to Sephiroth's height in the original game, beyond what was mentioned in the video. We see the photo that the man in Nibelheim took of Zack, Sephiroth and Tifa, and Sephiroth is very clearly taller than Zack and significantly taller than teenage Tifa. We're never given Zack's height in the original game of course, but in later materials it's been established as 6'1. But I think that even looking at the OG photo, Sephiroth very clearly gives off a vibe of someone who is taller than 6'1. He looks at least 6'4.
    Every subsequent compilation release has either suggested or established Sephiroth's height as being much taller than 6'1 and somewhere between 6'4 and 6'7, so yeah I agree entirely with the video that the original 6'1 is almost certainly junk localisation. (In the PAL manual it's 185cm btw, which I think isn't even 6'1!)

    • @4-8Productions
      @4-8Productions  ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Using the photo is a cool idea, sad I didn't think of that!

  • @cmarkplaygames
    @cmarkplaygames ปีที่แล้ว +118

    Yes! Finally Sephiroth in depth is here. Love the name "Jenovaroth". 🤣
    In depth characters I'd love to see:
    1)Reeve
    2)Vivi
    3)Mega Man

    • @damienblock6998
      @damienblock6998 ปีที่แล้ว

      I second those!

    • @Ninja-Hayate
      @Ninja-Hayate ปีที่แล้ว

      What about Jenoroth!

    • @aaronstones100
      @aaronstones100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sephirova. Actually scratch that, that makes him sound like a female tennis player 😜

    • @sakarinieminen3205
      @sakarinieminen3205 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sephiva xd

  • @Hushoo
    @Hushoo ปีที่แล้ว +27

    For the nibelheim flashback, we have to remember that this is not a direct retelling by Cloud a lot of the time. What happens inside of the reactor is essentially a memory transferred over to him by Zack and possibly edited by Jenova. Which is kind of a letdown given crisis core basically makes Genesis's exposition the trigger point to Sephiroth's villian arc.

  • @The_Gallowglass
    @The_Gallowglass ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I think part of the reason Sephiroth looks bigger, is because he's trying to seem more imposing to Cloud's mind. He wants Cloud to remain his puppet. Even in the original game, when you have the flashback and see Sephiroth fight the Dragon in Nibelheim--I think it is shown that he is like a superhero, because Cloud saw him as one. It would reinforce the idea that he can't be beat, which would make Cloud doubt himself. After all, Cloud was able to defeat (albeit a wounded) Sephiroth at the reactor and he was pre-Mako pre-Jenova cells.

  • @Kaij-
    @Kaij- 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I love the subtle detail that the planet put ALL those WEAPONS around the encapsulated sephiroth. like it knew they had to be there ready for when things went down. As soon as he summons meteor, they are like "its go time!"

  • @paulnewhouse5126
    @paulnewhouse5126 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Your omega weapon theory gave me chills, how it goes from 1 planet to another and "seeds" it. Very facinating.

  • @Solaiel
    @Solaiel ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This was very interesting. However with the remake taken into account, i have the feeling that Jenovaroth is basically being controlled by Jenova in total. And that Sephiroth might have been freed from Jenovas influence after the last fight. Thus creating two different Sephiroths in the remake causing the wispers to go crazy and try to keep the story intact. I believe in the remake he wants to basically help the party in the end, fighting Jenovas Mind and save the planet, but Cloud refuses obviously. But thats just my theory :D

    • @Killer_Kris7
      @Killer_Kris7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sephiroth always was in control

  • @adamsmith8810
    @adamsmith8810 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I've always wondered, how much of the villain in FFVII is Sepiroth, and how much is Jenova. Was she manipuling him the whole time, or did he only use her power for his own ends. I'd like to think it's a bit of a twisted mutual relationship, but I'm also curious what other people think.
    As for characters I'd like to see
    1. Johnny, and all his Cut Content
    2. Auron, always been my favorite FF character.
    3. Master Chief, there is so much more to him the just a super soldier.

    • @bsaintnyc
      @bsaintnyc ปีที่แล้ว +4

      in the ultimania for ff7 its stated that sepiroth's will took control of jenova and jenova is simple minded - an animal that just exists to destroy and consume

    • @--...--...--...
      @--...--...--... ปีที่แล้ว

      Master Chief >>>>

    • @MrCantStopTheRobot
      @MrCantStopTheRobot 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Since Seph got spliced with Jenova in vitro, it's moot to try and separate them. I'd say, a more interesting question would be: does Sephiroth's human sympathy, prior to his miscarried epiphany at Nibelheim, show that he could have possibly sublimated Jenova's ravenous nature, had he not been lifelong deceived and exploited by Shinra?

    • @acejumper1681
      @acejumper1681 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It's made very clear that Sephiroth is behind everything. He was manipulating the robed figures with his will, and took control of them, and Jenova herself.

  • @rrs1669
    @rrs1669 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The amount of detail they put into creating FF7 and having numerous subliminal meanings behind these characters, stories and even weapons, all of this in 1997 is absolutely incredible foreal 💯

  • @syynoflaw4718
    @syynoflaw4718 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It struck me that, given how "infectious" Sephiroth's cells are--that they're probably not Sephiroth cells. They're probably all Jenova.
    Given that Sephiroth was born with Jenova Cells, and he only went mad when in proximity of her, there's a chance that we've never actually faced Sephiroth at all. Its been Jenova the entire time, using Sephiroth's form as its local avatar--a bit like the Angels of Evanagelion. We're looking at Jenova reborn as Sephiroth; and the original is probably subsumed or dead.
    Given that Sephiroth himself would have been born of the LIfe stream on this particular planet, would've given Jenovah access to the Life Stream and its Knowledge here.
    All ultimately fulling its purpose as the Calamity. Hence that, no matter what "new" idea this Sephiroth has, it still only ever fulfills the original purpose / plan of Jenova.

  • @ThickCutOhio
    @ThickCutOhio ปีที่แล้ว +171

    Almost a whole hour of Sephiroth!!!

    • @ThickCutOhio
      @ThickCutOhio ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Geez auto correct never makes you look smart…

    • @Blighted_Ashes
      @Blighted_Ashes ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel ya

    • @NatoShinobi
      @NatoShinobi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yessss

    • @jonmakiavel93
      @jonmakiavel93 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's very well made and 50min is a good minimum for that charactere.

  • @108Rudi
    @108Rudi ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the continued dedication to final fantasy 7.
    1. Bugenhagen
    2. Vivi
    3. Solid snake

  • @KH-es6bx
    @KH-es6bx ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Finally, the lyrics and it's translation of Heartless Angel. Amazing to have read that!
    FF7 Character: Turks!
    FF Character: Lightning from FF13
    General Character: I dont know if there is much to find but Crash Bandicoot?

  • @That_KVO_Breh
    @That_KVO_Breh ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Sephiroth as a character is a permanent landmark in gaming history and the masterful one winged angel theme just stands the test of time, Nobuo Uematsu is a genius. Below are my suggestion's for next in-depth.
    1. Hojo
    2. Cloud's father
    3. Chocobo Joe

  • @limit_break_overdrive
    @limit_break_overdrive ปีที่แล้ว +33

    Awesome video! I especially liked the Side note and Omega Weapon part. All this was new to me and I agree this makes for an interesting theory! As for characters, here are my picks:
    1.The Chocobo Sage if there's even enough information. Otherwise, Rude would be my pick­.
    2.Rinoa
    3.Kratos
    Looking forward to the next one!

    • @4-8Productions
      @4-8Productions  ปีที่แล้ว +20

      He's a purple dude that sells chocobo stuff.
      Thanks for watching this in-depth look I''ll see you in the next one.

    • @midnightfm87
      @midnightfm87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@4-8Productions i was also gonna say chocobo sage at first but then i realized square never gave us much to work with.

    • @de_life_stream6044
      @de_life_stream6044 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kratos is such a good choice 👍

    • @giovanniprovost
      @giovanniprovost ปีที่แล้ว

      I'd put Bugenhagen over him but I think it's a good choice too (sans us lacking info)

  • @PhantomyreValentine
    @PhantomyreValentine ปีที่แล้ว +21

    The connection between Omega and Jenova has been somewhat telling, but the way you describe their connections and what it could mean is the most thorough and makes a lot of sense. Would love to hear more about this theory sometime!
    I don't have a comprehensive list but would love to hear your take on Genesis and Weiss.

    • @niceguy191
      @niceguy191 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My head-canon is similar, just that Jenova is more like a parasitic version to spread life while Omega Weapon is more like an escape pod. I imagine she isn't an entire planet's lifestream, but that her original planet created several "siblings" to Jenova meant to spread and hijack other already existing lifeforms/lifestream on other planets.

    • @niceguy191
      @niceguy191 ปีที่แล้ว

      My head-canon is similar, just that Jenova is more like a parasitic version to spread life while Omega Weapon is more like an escape pod. I imagine she isn't an entire planet's lifestream, but that her original planet created several "siblings" to Jenova meant to spread and hijack other already existing lifeforms/lifestream on other planets.

  • @gjoerulv
    @gjoerulv ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great vid, awesome stuff! :D
    Bizarro Sephiroth (as a fight) fascinated me early on. I remember figuring this fight out by myself as a kid (welp, teenager). Totally agree with everything you said about the fight, it's counterintuitive. Most annoying imo is the long idle animation, which slows it down considerably.
    Biz-Seph's AI is one of the more complicated ones, and use a huge amount of space compared to other encounters.

  • @GrandofTheftHero
    @GrandofTheftHero ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Superb analysis as always 4-8, really enjoyed this video. As requested, here's the list of characters I'd like you to cover based on the criteria you provided at the end of your video:
    1.) FF7 Character: Angeal
    2.) Any FF Character: Garland from FF9
    3.) Any Video Game Character: Raiden from MGR:R

  • @MrLordAgaton
    @MrLordAgaton ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Another fantastic In-depth. It really shows how much care, passion & research goes into these videos. For the upcoming projects here are my picks/suggestions:
    1: Zack Fair
    2: Yuna
    3: Solid Snake

  • @n0ctiz456
    @n0ctiz456 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video as always
    1.Lucrecia
    2.Yuna
    3.Vergil(DMC)

  • @ES-kw7hq
    @ES-kw7hq ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great episode, I really love these.
    1) Hojo ( the real villain of FF7)
    2) Ramza (FF Tactics)
    3) Crono (Chrono Trigger)

  • @TheTruestZero
    @TheTruestZero ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wait... Jenova was called "The Calamity of the Sky" and is an alien whose purpose is to feed on it's energy and them seek a new one to do the same process again...
    GODANMIT JENOVA IS LAVOS!!!!

    • @cathygrandstaff1957
      @cathygrandstaff1957 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well a lot of the team that worked on Chrono Trigger went on to work on Final Fantasy VII. Not Toriyama obviously otherwise Sephiroth would have been even more of a Psaro or Magus clone than he was to begin with. So it makes sense that a few of the things that show up in Chrono Trigger come back in FFVII:
      Jenova is Lavos
      The Cetra are the Enlightened Ones, a group that’s abnormally skilled with magic, while the regular humans are the earthbound.
      Cloud stole Crono’s hair.
      Sephiroth stole Magus’s.

  • @DrAOblivian
    @DrAOblivian ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I've always wondered what Sephiroth's general reaction would've been if he had learned of his true origin and that he was the son of Hojo and Lucrecia. I feel like he would've refused to join Cloud's team and would say he had gone too far to turn back, but he would've had various interactions with Vincent about his real mother.

  • @kingcovina
    @kingcovina ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This is the best deep dive in to Sephiroth on TH-cam! Hands down!
    As far as characters to cover in the future:
    1 - Rufus Shinra - His whole story arc is interesting, from his scheming from behind the scenes to his eventual redemption.
    2 - Seifer Almasy - Why he is the way he is, and what leads him to make the decisions he makes.
    3 - Solid Snake - Just an epic story from beginning to end.

  • @FIREWING760
    @FIREWING760 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1. Zack Fair
    2. Noctis Lucis Caelum
    3. Yuna
    Also love your in-depth videos!!

  • @SuperStar-rf3mh
    @SuperStar-rf3mh ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I really love your in depth series, and I absolutely loved this one.
    1. Zack
    2. Rinoa
    3. Camus (Fire Emblem)

  • @Stevan_275
    @Stevan_275 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Death, please do an analysis on Jecht, I really think he is probably one of the most complex characters in the Final Fantasy series. Not only from a traditional hero/villain perspective but also from a very human perspective, being a father who has a hard time showing affection and care. Btw, I love this series man, keep it up, probably one of my favorites to watch out of your videos. Keep it up man.

  • @petfriendamy
    @petfriendamy ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Great video! Very good analysis, I dig the Omega Weapon theory.
    As for characters I'd like to see in-depths for, uhhh honestly any characters would be good, but to pick a few random ones that other people probably haven't mentioned:
    1) Bugenhagen
    2) Celes from FF6
    3) I dunno, Madeline?

    • @4-8Productions
      @4-8Productions  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      1) He old.
      2) She sing.
      3) She fast.

    • @petfriendamy
      @petfriendamy ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@4-8Productions I mean I can't argue with that

  • @johnmininger8480
    @johnmininger8480 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Joe Hojo. 😂😂😂
    These in-depths are great! Characters to check out:
    1) Reeve (DoC)
    2) Steiner ff9
    3) Samus Aran

    • @seancondon5572
      @seancondon5572 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ohh. Samus? That's a good one. Metroid actually has a LOT of story outside the games.

  • @IDAVID29
    @IDAVID29 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In depth characters I'd love to see in this section

  • @deltasyn7434
    @deltasyn7434 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It's interesting that you've arrived at a similar theory to my own regarding Jenova and Sephiroth being the same entity.
    My theory is based on the long running JC allusions being made to Sephiroth. There is also the Kabbalistic origin in which the term Sephiroth is an expression of 'God's will'. Or in this case, Jenova's will. On that note, Jenova is commonly believed to mean 'New God" as a portmanteau of Jehovah and Nova (Latin for new).
    If we follow the parallels established in Advent Children, the next step is the second coming in the Book of Revelation in which Jesus destroys the earth and remakes it as one with heaven. Which is interesting considering the dialogue at the Egde of Creation "Our world will become a part of it someday".
    regard

  • @owlhatch3812
    @owlhatch3812 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I love this series, it's good for the background just to have one when things get quiet.
    Also :
    1:Budenhagen (if I am spelling that right)
    2: an in-depth look of Quistis
    And for anything... An In-depth look of Mahbu from the jade cocoon series.

  • @g3neralrevan27
    @g3neralrevan27 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    yes the in-depth series returns! thanks for all the great content!

  • @rdpriey
    @rdpriey ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video death.
    1. Rufus Shinra
    2. Riona
    3. Fei Fong Wong (Xenogears)

  • @Estevess21
    @Estevess21 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1 - Reno
    2 - Leslie (i´m going to keep in ff7 since it's the only one I´ve played yet)
    3 - Edward Kenway (Assassin's Creed Black Flag)
    Great video btw, realy enjoyed it

  • @sirdryden42
    @sirdryden42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1. Zack (or Hojo)
    2. Cecil Harvey (FF4)
    3. Frog (Chrono Trigger)

  • @LONEWOLFXPG
    @LONEWOLFXPG ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Really cool theory dude about Jenova being an Omega Weapon from another planet, I also like the theory that Yunalesca might be Jenova in a sense, but that would be a topic for another day...
    Anyway dude, here's the characters i'd like to see get an in depth video:
    1. Rude
    2. Cid of the Lufaine
    3. Marle

  • @xzentrick
    @xzentrick ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Loved the side note on the Jenova - Omega theory.
    1. Genesis "Loveless" Rhapsodos - A.K.A. The Best Red Mage Ever. Fite Me. XD
    2. Auron - FFX. Nuff said.
    3. Axel (Lea) - KH Series. Got the list memorized?
    - Honorable mentions: -
    Dante - DMC Series.
    Caius Ballad / Noel Kreiss - FFXIII-2.
    Master of Masters - KH Series.
    Yozora - (Secretly Tetsuya Nomura's *True* Noctis Lucis Caelum) FF Versus XIII / Fabula Nova Crystalis / Verum Rex / Kingdom Hearts Series.
    ...Yeah, you can make an entire YT mini series on the lore and theories of that last one alone. You're welcome.

  • @mtDNA_Refresh
    @mtDNA_Refresh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great in depth!
    1. Zack
    2. Lightening or Squall (I can't choose)
    3. Serge (Chrono Cross)

  • @Animebryan2
    @Animebryan2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    #1 - Genesis. Of all the FF7 characters, he's the most mysterious (haven't played Dirge of Cerberus).
    #2 - Yu Yevon (FFX). What info we got on him through FFX was just too minimal (haven't played all the way through FFX-2).
    #3 - Albedo Piazzola (Xenosaga series). One of the most interesting antagonists I've ever seen. The dude's a unhinged psychopath most of the time but as you progress through the series, you come to understand why he is that way & learned that he isn't too far gone or irredeemable. Compared to antagonists like Sephiroth or Kefka, he's underrated & deserves some attention.

  • @幸宏-m7h
    @幸宏-m7h ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I love the funny jokes and informed theories of yours, especially when you bridge the gaps among the various sources we had over the life of the series. Great job!

  • @squall4120
    @squall4120 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I played all of Dirge of Cerberus and completely forgot what the purpose of Omega Weapon was 🤦‍♂Love the theory about Jenova being another Omega Weapon though. Great video!
    1. Zack Fair
    2. Vivi Ornitier
    3. Roxas from Kingdom Hearts

  • @edwardalyassin7887
    @edwardalyassin7887 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Last Order looked so cool, but it was chock full of inaccuracies. The worst of which IMO is that Zack was taken out by 1 sniper. Zack was so badass that even in the original there were 4 people standing over him with machine guns shooting him in the face. And he still wasn't dead for a while.

  • @solidussnakesr9914
    @solidussnakesr9914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1. Jessy
    2. Fran
    3. Solid Snake
    Thanks! Youre a great content creator!

  • @Kerdukie
    @Kerdukie ปีที่แล้ว +1

    1. Don Corneo
    2. Basch (VAN RONSENBURG!!!) or Ultros
    3. Dronia (Labyrinth of Refrain)
    Great Vid on Sephiroth! Loved the series so far and I'm excited how Clouds and Zacks in-depth looks will turn out! Keep up the great work!

  • @JCmeister9
    @JCmeister9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In depth characters I'd love to see:
    1) Johnny
    2) Delita from FF Tactics
    3) Rose from The legend of Dragoon

  • @Hollow.47
    @Hollow.47 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was an awesome in depth video into sephirith as a whole. He is one of my favorite all time clouded game characters and I enjoyed every minute of this video keep them coming.
    My list for next in depth video goes like this:
    1. Rufus
    2. Rinoa (FFXIII)
    3. Melbu Frama (Legend of Dragoon)

  • @chrism2887
    @chrism2887 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Always loved the crazy amount of detail your in-depth videos have. I'm really glad to hear you wanna branch out and cover other characters in and out of the FF franchise. Most definitely looking forward to those.
    Now for the characters I'd love to see you cover:
    1) Cissnei. Since CC Reunion is still somewhat fresh in our minds and probably only very few of us played Before Crisis, she's still very mysterious and coverage on her would be awesome.
    2) Squall. As brooding as he is, I would love to see an in-depth on him and his connection to Laguna. It's heavily hinted they are father and son but nobody brings it up! Even Ward and Kiros pretty much say it on the Ragnarok but it's never addressed in-game and it's always driven me crazy.
    3) Jak (from Jak and Daxter). I'd love to see an in-depth on him and Daxter in the future. It's a great franchise that deserves a little more attention.
    Anywho, love the vids Death 👍

  • @jamessmall8096
    @jamessmall8096 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I really like that theory of Jenova being on Omega Weapon, really though if you look at it that way then Jenova is no more evil than the next I mean she is only doing exactly what I'm sure Omega Weapon would do once it found a new planet, it would attempt to assimilate all life on that planet as per its intended design to carry all life essence from one planet to the next

  • @scissors0009
    @scissors0009 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was great! I haven't engaged much with the compilation, so seeing the added texture that was added by other titles was nice.
    My list:
    Lucretia (her story is extremely fractured in vanilla VII so I'd like to see a full breakdown)
    Lightning (I'm wont to gain an understanding of that game but far too lazy to research it myself)
    Sydney Losstarot (loooove me some Vagrant Story and just want to give it exposure, and Sydney is f****** awesome)

  • @Dan-bz2nh
    @Dan-bz2nh ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Love this. I cannot believe almost every playable character is near finished.
    1: I really really wanna hear an in depth on The Turks. Especially Rude
    2: Zidane from Final Fantasy 9
    3: The Doom Slayer from Doom.

  • @13kylio13
    @13kylio13 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WOW what a wealth of information! Loved this, as well as the rest of the in-depth vids! Look forward to this project as a whole and what is to come!
    1) Hojo
    2) Tidus
    3) Agent 47

  • @EvilDude1
    @EvilDude1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really love the theory that Jenova is basically a weapon, makes a lot of sense. Much like animals evolve differently, it would make sense that other planet’s lifestreams might similarly adapt to appear in a different way.

  • @vinnyluscombe406
    @vinnyluscombe406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video man!
    1. Rufus
    2. Kuja
    3. Dante from The Devil May Cry Series

  • @ragfarok
    @ragfarok ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always! I can't wait to see more of these since they're always extremely informative and well crafted!
    As for the in-depth look, i'd say:
    1. Zack
    2. Zidane
    3. Kratos from Tales of Symphonia

  • @K_Bizz
    @K_Bizz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just realised something weird. A friend of mine had some sort of PS1 gameshark thing that he used to screw around with the party, their equipment and so on. And I remember he somehow gave Cloud the Apocalypse sword in the flashback. But when Cloud attacked, it made Cait Sith's squshy attack sound instead of Cloud's usual sword cutting sound. I guess that's because they occupy the same memory slot and the gameshark thing screwed things up. Crazy. Really hope I'm remembering it correctly, I was only about 8 at the time!

  • @DrChimRichells
    @DrChimRichells ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Awesome Video! Here are the characters I would want to see:
    1. Professor Joe Hojo
    2. Rydia, Caller of Mist
    3. Ganondorf, King of Thieves

  • @bradzilla04
    @bradzilla04 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow, great video. Amazing how I continue learning new things about FF7 26 years after release.
    1. Rufus
    2. Steiner
    3. Vergil (from Devil May Cry)

  • @Tombsy512YT
    @Tombsy512YT ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another brilliant watch! Amazing how much history the characters of this game have.
    1) Bugenhagen
    2) Lightning
    3) Solid Snake

  • @midnightfm87
    @midnightfm87 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video! FF7 is my all time fave but I still learned a few things.
    1. Tseng
    2. Edea (FF8) - she is crucial to the plot and is a very tragic, interesting character
    3. Aya Brea (Parasite Eve) - I just finished reading the novel and it rekindled my interest in the games
    I especially love the lore surrounding Jenova and the research done by Gast and his successors, so I think that would make for a great video.

    • @seancondon5572
      @seancondon5572 ปีที่แล้ว

      I voted for Seifer from FF8 for much the same reason...

    • @midnightfm87
      @midnightfm87 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@seancondon5572 oh yeah I’d like to see a video about Seifer too

  • @videoinsomnia
    @videoinsomnia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    excellent vid on the master of disaster.
    1. Jenova
    2. Ultimecia
    3. M.Bison

  • @Wulfaz
    @Wulfaz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1. Johnny That lad had an adventure all on his own.
    2. Fujin FF8
    3. Claire Redfield

  • @bird9812
    @bird9812 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love the video, wish we got them more often.
    1. Tseng
    2. Bartz klauser ff5
    3. Zagreus from Hades

  • @vinceb8038
    @vinceb8038 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    1. Hojo
    2. Dagger (FF9)
    3. Revan (KotOR)
    Love the channel! I hope you do character in-depths on all the FF9 characters in the future. Lots of lore to mine there!

  • @dongodongo12
    @dongodongo12 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just what I needed, as always really great videos!
    1. Tseng
    2. Auron
    3.the demifiend from SMT Nocturne

  • @Marshbag12
    @Marshbag12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely loved the video my man - great work on yet another fantastic in-depth. The omega theory actually fits the puzzle perfectly and hope that was the intention and not just an oversight from the team. Also I never realised he never used Fire 3 even knowing its there equipped.
    Now for the list:
    1) Hojo (/gast ) - their history which potentially sets up FFVII would be a great insight for the fans
    2) Yuna - did you expect me to say anyone else? - they need to hear why she is one of the best developed characters in the franchise
    3) Xehanort - Even though I have yet to reach the end of KH he is for sure one of the most interesting characters with different iterations etc.

  • @lae7363
    @lae7363 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Really liked the video, it helped clear up a lot of questions I had and also made me appreciate Sephiroth more, so thank you. In regards to the characters for in-depth: I'd say 1: Reeve 2: Tidus ff10 3 Leon Kennedy(re4) or Ky Kiske from Guilty Gear. Again, great video and I can't wait for your next uploads!

  • @cellanj
    @cellanj ปีที่แล้ว +3

    sephiroth is such a cool character and he easily had the best smash reveal of ultimate and maybe one of the best of all time
    1. Reno
    2. Locke
    3. Marth from Fire Emblem

  • @EnoguHaruki
    @EnoguHaruki 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Your video sparked a theory in my brain(maybe someone els thought of this too), sephiroth slaughter at nibelheim is unjust- but still logical. But him changing his way of talk and everything still came off weird after he died in the lifestream. What if- he had a human part from Lucretzia and hojo, but when he died this part of him was absorbed to the lifestream and whatever left is the jenova genes.like in nibelheim he still had his very human emotions intact. Whenever we see him after that- he seems- different.

  • @SS3Jake.
    @SS3Jake. ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Me - "Idk..I'm already subscribed to SO many creators on here.."
    "Maybe his name is Joe...Joe Hojo..."
    Me - ..............*subscribes*

  • @patchadamsv2
    @patchadamsv2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent in depth!
    1. Tseng
    2. Noctis FF15 (no seriously, I need it)
    3. Laura Croft

  • @edejor
    @edejor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think a deep dive into Jenova the calamity herself would be pretty rad.
    Vivi(maybe Kuja. Love Vivi though. Scrue it, both) from FF9 would be awesome.
    Kain from the legacy of kain series(or any boss from MGS2/1)

  • @Fellwing94
    @Fellwing94 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Oh man.
    1) Jesse
    2) Agrias Oaks
    3) Illidan Stormrage.
    You did an awesome job, I loved this in depth look.

  • @shawnbreen6419
    @shawnbreen6419 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What if when sephiroth rejoined the lifestream part of sephiroth was assimilated? Just the humanity he held, that empathy for his friends, the bits of him that we see prior that cause him to come off well like asking cloud about being home? The lifestream reassimilated those bits of him, leaving behind only those parts created and based on jenova. Would explain what he becomes and why we never see any sort of humanity from him again after that and why he becomes dominated only by desires to fulfill jenovas will. As always thank you so much for the great content and inspiring fun thoughts about my favorite piece of media ever created.

  • @randomizednerd
    @randomizednerd ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great video! I've found you since Remake, thank you so much for providing much-needed escape from the worries of our world. It's nice to see such love and enthusiasm for this game and I dig how you converse with the community. My picks:
    1. (since Zack & the Turks are surely coming, right?) Lifestream.
    2. Edgar & Sabin. Their flashback with the Coin Toss music always gets me.
    3. Gonna have to go with Kratos.

  • @TheKkholiday
    @TheKkholiday ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Another fantastic video. This made me understand one of my favorite characters even more. Kudos my man.
    1. Zack! Or Shera. Poor girl just gets yelled at all the time!
    3. Alis Landale from Phantasy Star! That's a deep cut but would love to see it

  • @LukeMay
    @LukeMay ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Amazing video! Love your work!
    Here's my list for you.
    1) Bugenhafen
    2) Laguna Loire
    3) Knuckles the Echidna

  • @5olid5nake
    @5olid5nake ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Lovely work on displaying one of the most iconic and infamous villains in video games. Also a complex, interesting character on its own! This series is simply amazing.
    As far as the 3 characters go:
    1 > Tseng - I changed my pick for this one. I mean, Zack & Hojo seem like the obvious picks but I think Tseng has more influence in the story than we usually remember. It could be a fun character to go in depth.
    2 > Freya - 'Cause she's one of my favourite female characters of all time.
    3 > Solid Snake - So many big names in the MGS franchise I'd like to see you tackle but had to be my pick.
    Also, I'd like to give an honorable mention to Crash Bandicoot. I didn't pick him for nº3 just because i think Crash would be a different type of in-depth analysis. It would be a different approach, more about its influence in gaming and on the PS1/Sony but something I think you could find interesting to take on.
    Thanks for the great content!

  • @mattjohnson6747
    @mattjohnson6747 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Love the video series. Been a fan and watched them all as they dropped. Keep up awesome work.
    1. Zack..... obviously
    2. Cid through entire FF Series
    3. Dracula from Castlevania

  • @Blakobness
    @Blakobness ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my own head cannon I imagine the SOLDIER project did very much exist pre-sephiroth as a way to create supersoldiers, but the revelations of what you could do with Mako and the discovery and utilization of Jenova leading to Sephiroth caused Shinra to re-evaluate the processes they used before. Sephiroth is the first conventional true SOLDIER created with these new methods, prior Soldiers all being inferior specimens. The project reinvented itself, so to speak.
    Also today I learned, after being a huge fan of Theatrhythm Curtain Call, and currently Final Bar Line, that there's a Kingdom Heart's Rhythm game.

  • @deriktofil
    @deriktofil ปีที่แล้ว +2

    that omega weapon theory is incredible! Would love a full video talking about that. Super interesting theory

  • @adriandelacroix
    @adriandelacroix ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Good stuff. That was a great explanation of Sephiroth’s character and motivations. Also, cool to hear you’re not only continuing, but expanding the in-depth look series.
    1) Don Corneo
    2) Kuja
    3) Lavitz

  • @Stunprefo
    @Stunprefo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fantastic as always.
    1. Bugenhagen
    2. Steiner
    3. Anyone from Chrono Trigger honestly could be good.

  • @ang1217sr
    @ang1217sr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What an amazing video. I am a huge Sephiroth fanboy and this even surprised me on how in depth it went and even explained a few things I wondered on for a while regarding the character. Absolutely loved it, keep up the great work!
    As for other characters to go over,
    1. Rufus Shinra. Love this dudes design and overall aura
    2. Steiner. Great FF9 character.
    3. There’s… A lot I would wanna see lmao. But Vergil is my top choice, and him Sephiroth and other characters in fiction are why I love the trope of “badass powerful sword wielder”

  • @cerocivr
    @cerocivr ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just realised that the first of these videos, for Vincent, was over 8 years ago. Holy crap I've been following this channel for a while, good to see your dedication!
    1: Reeve
    2: Auron (FFX)
    3: Sol Badguy

  • @JoJo.Finance
    @JoJo.Finance ปีที่แล้ว +2

    “We have look at every playable character in Final Fantasy 7..except one. “
    Cloud: Am I a joke to you ?? 😂

  • @Hweisted
    @Hweisted ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Really do love this series. Can't wait to see Cloud's.
    My list...
    1) Probably an odd one here, but I'd love to see an in-depth on Tseng. He was always weirdly my favorite of the Turks (even before the more expanded universe) and I think his story is very interesting. Would love to see a video for him.
    2) Celes Chere from Final Fantasy VI. I genuinely think she's one of the most impressive characters in the franchise, one of the strongest female leads, and overall a fantastic character.
    3) Magus from Chrono Trigger. I think the Chrono series overall would be fun to do in-depths on.

  • @jamiecranton
    @jamiecranton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dog (yuna) looked up when yunas theme played it’s one of her favourite songs haha
    1.President shinra
    2. Saint ajora
    3.Justin (grandia)

  • @mohammedalrubaiy3671
    @mohammedalrubaiy3671 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video. As far as the characters I’d like to see:
    1. Squall Leonhart from Final Fantasy VIII
    2. Big Boss / Naked Snake from the Metal Gear franchise
    3. Jin Kazama from the Tekken franchise
    * honerable mention: Duke Nukem, ‘cause he’s got balls of steel

  • @mariuszrynkiewicz6698
    @mariuszrynkiewicz6698 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good work as always! Thank you!
    My list:
    1. Lucrecia
    2. --- (i didn't play any other ff games:P)
    3. 2B (Nier Automata)

  • @NiGHTS108_
    @NiGHTS108_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Epic video, hyped for the cloud vid
    #1: Zack Fair
    #2: Whatever the other comments say
    #3: Madeline from Celeste?

  • @AKASUKIJOE
    @AKASUKIJOE ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Well, you're already gonna do my boy Cloud so I guess in depth wise I'd like to see, Good il Joe Hojo, The Emperor of Palemecia and Dart Feld from the Legend of Dragoon