I love that this guy's short review is still 20+ minutes. I appreciate the dedication and passion. Thanks for the the tips. I think I am finally getting a NAS this year cause all of your content.
Dispite the downsidde I bought the DS423+ cause of the integrated graphics for transcoding.... Mind you, Im using it to store my collection of blue ray DVDs primarily, but also to run NVME's and a couple of virtual machines..... SYNOLOGY has been smart ( and dumb depending how you wanna view it) in making only the DS920 expandable. After all it seems that Synology make you want to decide between making the NAS expandable and giving it the ability to transcode..... DAMN YOU Synology, why cant we have the cake and eat it too (if we wanna pay the money)
I love(d) my DS916+ and considered getting a newer and bigger Synology. But since being forced to buy re-labeled and ridiculous priced OEM hdd/ssd drives I am out. TrueNAS Scale and a more potent while cheaper self-build server are my way to go now. Thank you Synology for the good times so far … but I won‘t come back. Hopefully many others think the same.
Essentially I use my 720+ for Plex and very little else. One drive as redundancy is fine and I use 2 x 8TB Red. Considering going 4 bay more for the extra redundancy of RAID 5 despite the extra drive cost. I send movie files through my Apple TV 4K so I understand that I dont actually need integrated graphics to handle 4k and different formats. But still, It feels strange not having integrated graphics...just in case
Hmm. Does streaming from a Synology NAS to an AppleTV negate the need for the NAS processor to handle the conversions and codecs and stuff? I’m considering ripping my large collection of DVDs and about 70 standard Blu-rays (no 4K) to be played solely on on AppleTVs (mostly) I also have a couple of Roku devices and iPads that might stream my library locally over wifi, but those are less important.
The 423+ is compared to the 920+ in this review, but even having only the 918+ myself I see no reason to upgrade. I wonder what Synology will have in store for us when the x25+ series are released in two years time. If it comes with a better Intel Celeron CPU and 2,5Gb ethernet on board I might consider the upgrade at that time. But I am leaning towards a 5-bay NAS in the future (now using SHR-2 with 4-bays which is a bit of a waste), so let's see what the next Synology models will bring.
I'm still using a DS414 at home mainly just for file/multimedia storage and CCTV surveillance station. Looking at this 423+, I can't see a good reason to upgrade and I certainly don't know why people with the last 1 or 2 generation models would even think of upgrading. For me, like many others have said, a lack of 2.5Gb LAN is a deal breaker. I want my NAS to last well over 5 years (coming up to 9 years on my 414 now) so it needs to be up to date / future proof and 1Gb LAN is not. Especially when you think a bare unit is like £500.
Talking about future proof: something I would also like to see is expanding the number of ssd slots on the bottom from 2 to 4 and of course being able to use it as a storage pool (or even better, being able to mix them, for example using 3 as a storage pool and 1 as a caching drive). That way you would have a really nice combo between traditionals hard drive and modern ssd's slots in the box.
Is there a suitable ( AC power cord extension for synology ds423+ ) would a 4 Pin DIN Connector Cable, 4 Pin DIN Male to Female Extension Connector Power Supply Cable for Audio Digital Devices (1 meter) possibly work ?
I was able to pick up probably one of the last "new" ds920+ for $849 USD in April 2023. I probably would have went with the 423+ for over $200USD less if I had seen this first. I upgraded from a d218+ (I think) and wanted the GPU and extra drive bays for Plex.
@NASCompares Wondering when QNAP might get some love? I have been seeing emails over the last month or two so that I would have thought would have caught your interest? The Security Bounty alone I thought I was going to see one of your quick deliver videos... Even the updates for the OS in the last 8 months or so have been interesting.
The fact that its 1 gig is enough for me to pass, that's just sad Synology. Practically E-Waste. Its so cheap to have 2.5 or even 1 10g. Really was looking forward to getting a smaller Synology NAS soon for redudant backups and camera server use at a different site but can't justify the cost with the lack of the expansion
how... HOW do you guys comment so fast? I make the vid live, go to grab a coffee, sit down.. boom! There you are! I am impressed! Glad the video helps you make your mind up on a NAS one way or another. I would say that the full review will be going into much more detail on the system architecture and (for those wondering about performance abilities) you can find a massive playlist of Synology DS920+ NAS Videos here - th-cam.com/video/2Xap-rNLUFY/w-d-xo.html
Hello everyone, I bought a Synology 423+, installed the drive inside, but on first power up I smelled a strong plastic and burnt smell. The smell passed after few minutes and everything seems to work fine and in temperatures. I would like to know if this is normal. The smell did not return again.
Are we going to get an M.2 NVMe compatibility test (unsupported) for the DS423+ given you've already done memory? My old DS1813+ is on it's last legs (time to retire after a decade) and needs replacement, predominately for Plex and Surveillance.
i never had a nas. this will be my first nas. if i understand right i prefer this over the 923+ cause of the intel cpu. in only need the nas for 4k media stream on my tv. am i right? or maxbe should i wait for sth else i dont know. thanks for your help guys
With less memory and prob more expensive sale price, thanks but no thanks. Idiots just should have kept the 920+ alive than insult us with this release.
@@ultraret MRSP wise, it might be more expensive than the DS 920+. But with the DS 920+ discounted, and availability hard to find right now. The only stores that have it available in stock are third party resellers, that have been gouging up the prices of the DS 920+ somewhere in the range of $700 to $900 USD.
For existing owners it may be an interesting decision, but for new users, it'll be a moot point going forward, as the 920+ will no longer be available.
I tried to resist watching this, but as always I couldn't hold out. I am afraid that you'll sell me on buying this NAS too. I've already got two on my list. Still deciding on which ones to buy.
Good Vid as usual. Still disappointed in Synology and their going proprietary. Currently have a 416play with HDD but really want another for redundancy. Simple of fact of not being able put in affordable SSD's is a huge issue for me. Samsung 870 Evo 2TB drives are perfect and priced right. I wish they would just open them back up again....
Very level headed points, thanks. Absolutely shocking that the 920+ doesn't support M.2 storage, though I'm not sure the 423 would have many selling points if it did!
These NAS are so expensive now that sometimes I think is cheaper build a PC for this purpose. On top of that, the expansion is also way easier and possible.
I hope you can help me! I have sooo many files on my pc and external SSDs lying around on my desk. About 6 TB with videos, pictures and documents. Now that I've started a TH-cam channel, there is going to be alot of video files! All I want is a box with 4 bays (maybe go with two 12TB to start with), to store aaall of my files. I want to connect with a USB to my pc and have a decent speed when tranferring files from my computer and I want it all to be mirrored. The networking part is not so important to me. Is this Synology DS923+ for me? And what do I look for in a suitable harddrive? Thank so much and cheers from Norway!
If a drive isn't on the compatibility list will it work with a warning or you can't use them at all? I use some basic desktop Seagate in my old rn31400. Will I still be able to use them in a Synology Nas (obviously re formatted). So I can't buy just any nvme drives to use. I would like to put 2 nvme drives , 1 for storage and 1 for cache. I was thinking some affordable ones like whatever goes for $80 for 1tb drives.
I want to have a NAS as a Media server, saving movies and Pictures. I'm still not sure what I need...lol. Money is not realy an issue, but don't want to get something I don't need. It will be in my Living Room, so it need to be quiet, hence I'm planning to use SSD's only. I'm not sure if 4 Bay or 2 Bay due to back up (I know a NAS is not a back up system). So far I'm looking at the 4 Bay Qnap, (they look like something I put in my living Room).
@@berndkemmereit8252 I will tell you after owning the 453E for half a year, it does extremely well for media. Added another TB of M2.NVME via QTIER and really happy it, perfect for SMB and Prosumer. It decodes much better than I would have thought. That said, I'm now looking at higher end media and options and the TVS-474 would be ideally suited for it. In the next few years 8k will likely become more popular, and even now I have encountered some high end movies I had to play with to get perfect play back. So long and short is that you will need the power sooner than you think, it always happens. I wish I bought the full blown intel and just be done with it...
Currently, you can only use Synology SSDs to make NVMe pools, with non Syn drives showing as unverified and blocked for use in pools. They are supported for caching though. Sorry for being the bad news bear man?
Dumb question nas noob here, If I Plug my nas in, in a different room so to a different ethernet socket, Will i be able to connect to it as normal? Or will its ip change and Ill have to set it all up again?
Ready to buy a NAS but I am torn between synology and asustor. From watching your videos, I guess in a nutshell it is a choice between superior software vs superior hardware for the money, respectively. As an Apple hw user (I use others including windows and Linux since I’m in enterprise “IT”) I’m a bit fed up with price gouging with proprietary hw when spending my own money. Is the software worth the expensive and proprietary hw both initial and future upgrades on the synology side?
Why would anyone, at this moment, buy DS423+, when DS920+ is still available, cheaper, with more RAM, and has ESATA port for further 5 HDD extension... DS920+ will probably get NVMe, in couple of months (when there no more to buy new), as Synology now has no "hardware explanation" (which is their main explanation that PCI-E 2.0 is problem) why it cannot be enabled (as same hardware 423+ has it)
Synology hopeless tentative response to the angry Plex clients over the last releases, just obsolete hardware, stay away from this, chose any other brand with 2.5GB network and a NEW intel CPU with integrated graphics.
@@misku_ Gosh, there isn't lack of options out there, try this, Lockerstor4 Gen2, 2 x 2,5GB and 10GB upgradable, PCIe 3.0, USB 3.2 Gen2 10 Gbps and with the NEW intel N5105, just as an example but there is a lot more out there.
@@misku_ I would check out the QNAP 453E or the 464, the 453E is better at Plex than other brands with similar hardware. Think it is more optimized on QNAP. Watch the plex videos to see how they work.
NOPE... I'm trying to upgrade from an ancient second-hand Synology that admirably still works but is not compatible with the latest DSM software. I'm not going to pay top dollar for a repurposed model from 2020 with a cpu from 2019! I was waiting for the ds423+ to come out but I'll wait for a sale on the ds923+ instead. I don't know what Synology is thinking, but the ds423+ is dead to me.
Why in hell I can't buy ANY Synology NAS!!!!!!! ????????? all have issues to avoid to buy them, why they don't want release a real solution for everyone.
The CPU is fine because it's a 423 series... The bigger CPU will roll out hopefully for the upcoming generations. This is the clearly the base model with base model hardware.
I love that this guy's short review is still 20+ minutes. I appreciate the dedication and passion. Thanks for the the tips. I think I am finally getting a NAS this year cause all of your content.
Just collected mine today ..Your previous videos I watched made me decided this is the one. This is my first NAS purchase.
The more I watch your videos the more confuse I get. I went from buying the 220 to the 923+ to the 423+ to being discorage to buy anything... DS923+?
I think I am going with the DS423+ model cause my main reason is to use as a Plex Server and my current router is limited
to 1G speeds.
Get a RAM expansion!
Dispite the downsidde I bought the DS423+ cause of the integrated graphics for transcoding.... Mind you, Im using it to store my collection of blue ray DVDs primarily, but also to run NVME's and a couple of virtual machines..... SYNOLOGY has been smart ( and dumb depending how you wanna view it) in making only the DS920 expandable. After all it seems that Synology make you want to decide between making the NAS expandable and giving it the ability to transcode..... DAMN YOU Synology, why cant we have the cake and eat it too (if we wanna pay the money)
Yep, 920+ bought about 7 months ago. Replacing Unraid on Dell PowerEdge R510
I love(d) my DS916+ and considered getting a newer and bigger Synology. But since being forced to buy re-labeled and ridiculous priced OEM hdd/ssd drives I am out. TrueNAS Scale and a more potent while cheaper self-build server are my way to go now. Thank you Synology for the good times so far … but I won‘t come back. Hopefully many others think the same.
Essentially I use my 720+ for Plex and very little else. One drive as redundancy is fine and I use 2 x 8TB Red. Considering going 4 bay more for the extra redundancy of RAID 5 despite the extra drive cost. I send movie files through my Apple TV 4K so I understand that I dont actually need integrated graphics to handle 4k and different formats. But still, It feels strange not having integrated graphics...just in case
Hmm. Does streaming from a Synology NAS to an AppleTV negate the need for the NAS processor to handle the conversions and codecs and stuff? I’m considering ripping my large collection of DVDs and about 70 standard Blu-rays (no 4K) to be played solely on on AppleTVs (mostly)
I also have a couple of Roku devices and iPads that might stream my library locally over wifi, but those are less important.
Sad, they should have updated the CPU or continued the popular DS920+ production & availability.
The 423+ is compared to the 920+ in this review, but even having only the 918+ myself I see no reason to upgrade. I wonder what Synology will have in store for us when the x25+ series are released in two years time. If it comes with a better Intel Celeron CPU and 2,5Gb ethernet on board I might consider the upgrade at that time. But I am leaning towards a 5-bay NAS in the future (now using SHR-2 with 4-bays which is a bit of a waste), so let's see what the next Synology models will bring.
I'm still using a DS414 at home mainly just for file/multimedia storage and CCTV surveillance station. Looking at this 423+, I can't see a good reason to upgrade and I certainly don't know why people with the last 1 or 2 generation models would even think of upgrading. For me, like many others have said, a lack of 2.5Gb LAN is a deal breaker. I want my NAS to last well over 5 years (coming up to 9 years on my 414 now) so it needs to be up to date / future proof and 1Gb LAN is not. Especially when you think a bare unit is like £500.
Talking about future proof: something I would also like to see is expanding the number of ssd slots on the bottom from 2 to 4 and of course being able to use it as a storage pool (or even better, being able to mix them, for example using 3 as a storage pool and 1 as a caching drive). That way you would have a really nice combo between traditionals hard drive and modern ssd's slots in the box.
Is there a suitable ( AC power cord extension for synology ds423+ ) would a 4 Pin DIN Connector Cable, 4 Pin DIN Male to Female Extension Connector Power Supply Cable for Audio Digital Devices (1 meter) possibly work ?
IF this actually had all the hardware of the QNAP TS464 in the synology box how much more would you pay over the DS423+ retail price?
Well it's a good option now that you can't find a 920+ anywhere for less than $500
I was able to pick up probably one of the last "new" ds920+ for $849 USD in April 2023. I probably would have went with the 423+ for over $200USD less if I had seen this first. I upgraded from a d218+ (I think) and wanted the GPU and extra drive bays for Plex.
@NASCompares Wondering when QNAP might get some love? I have been seeing emails over the last month or two so that I would have thought would have caught your interest? The Security Bounty alone I thought I was going to see one of your quick deliver videos... Even the updates for the OS in the last 8 months or so have been interesting.
The fact that its 1 gig is enough for me to pass, that's just sad Synology. Practically E-Waste. Its so cheap to have 2.5 or even 1 10g. Really was looking forward to getting a smaller Synology NAS soon for redudant backups and camera server use at a different site but can't justify the cost with the lack of the expansion
how... HOW do you guys comment so fast? I make the vid live, go to grab a coffee, sit down.. boom! There you are! I am impressed! Glad the video helps you make your mind up on a NAS one way or another. I would say that the full review will be going into much more detail on the system architecture and (for those wondering about performance abilities) you can find a massive playlist of Synology DS920+ NAS Videos here - th-cam.com/video/2Xap-rNLUFY/w-d-xo.html
Hello everyone, I bought a Synology 423+, installed the drive inside, but on first power up I smelled a strong plastic and burnt smell.
The smell passed after few minutes and everything seems to work fine and in temperatures. I would like to know if this is normal.
The smell did not return again.
Are we going to get an M.2 NVMe compatibility test (unsupported) for the DS423+ given you've already done memory? My old DS1813+ is on it's last legs (time to retire after a decade) and needs replacement, predominately for Plex and Surveillance.
Nice to see Synology recycling the leftovers from the DS920+ manufacturing plant. 🙄
DS-bubble & squeak
i never had a nas. this will be my first nas. if i understand right i prefer this over the 923+ cause of the intel cpu. in only need the nas for 4k media stream on my tv. am i right? or maxbe should i wait for sth else i dont know. thanks for your help guys
Looks like it's 920+ but without extension slot
With less memory and prob more expensive sale price, thanks but no thanks. Idiots just should have kept the 920+ alive than insult us with this release.
@@ultraret MRSP wise, it might be more expensive than the DS 920+. But with the DS 920+ discounted, and availability hard to find right now. The only stores that have it available in stock are third party resellers, that have been gouging up the prices of the DS 920+ somewhere in the range of $700 to $900 USD.
Other than the 2nvm couldd be a storage pool I don't see any other reason to buy this over the 920+
Would be nice to see a head-to-head between the 920+ and the 423+ on this channel.
For existing owners it may be an interesting decision, but for new users, it'll be a moot point going forward, as the 920+ will no longer be available.
Because you can’t get a 920+ and this is $100 less than a 923+
Great review as always
I tried to resist watching this, but as always I couldn't hold out. I am afraid that you'll sell me on buying this NAS too. I've already got two on my list. Still deciding on which ones to buy.
Good Vid as usual. Still disappointed in Synology and their going proprietary. Currently have a 416play with HDD but really want another for redundancy. Simple of fact of not being able put in affordable SSD's is a huge issue for me. Samsung 870 Evo 2TB drives are perfect and priced right. I wish they would just open them back up again....
Very level headed points, thanks. Absolutely shocking that the 920+ doesn't support M.2 storage, though I'm not sure the 423 would have many selling points if it did!
These NAS are so expensive now that sometimes I think is cheaper build a PC for this purpose. On top of that, the expansion is also way easier and possible.
I plan to buy the 423+ to upgrade from my first DS220j NAS. Will the 423+ work with my current DSM 6.2.3?
Thks & buts !DS823+ or Bust!
I hope you can help me!
I have sooo many files on my pc and external SSDs lying around on my desk. About 6 TB with videos, pictures and documents. Now that I've started a TH-cam channel, there is going to be alot of video files!
All I want is a box with 4 bays (maybe go with two 12TB to start with), to store aaall of my files. I want to connect with a USB to my pc and have a decent speed when tranferring files from my computer and I want it all to be mirrored. The networking part is not so important to me. Is this Synology DS923+ for me? And what do I look for in a suitable harddrive? Thank so much and cheers from Norway!
This seagull got a real kick in cojones 😄Thanks for the preview. I'm looking forward to see how DS423+ stacks up against competition.
Extra like for the seagull's flight. :)))
What is the Synology nas to buy for me to run Plex
Cheers
Jim
Can you confirm on the usage of a 16gb memory ? Seems like even if not officially supported, it does does run it ok.
B&H Photo lists this for pre-order at $499 US, so $100 less than the DS923+.
If a drive isn't on the compatibility list will it work with a warning or you can't use them at all?
I use some basic desktop Seagate in my old rn31400. Will I still be able to use them in a Synology Nas (obviously re formatted).
So I can't buy just any nvme drives to use. I would like to put 2 nvme drives , 1 for storage and 1 for cache. I was thinking some affordable ones like whatever goes for $80 for 1tb drives.
I want to have a NAS as a Media server, saving movies and Pictures. I'm still not sure what I need...lol. Money is not realy an issue, but don't want to get something I don't need. It will be in my Living Room, so it need to be quiet, hence I'm planning to use SSD's only. I'm not sure if 4 Bay or 2 Bay due to back up (I know a NAS is not a back up system). So far I'm looking at the 4 Bay Qnap, (they look like something I put in my living Room).
The 453E or 464 will probably be fine, unless your getting really high end media files. But if money is no object, my gosh man get the TVS-474!!!
If you wan't only SSD's because of noise you also can get the DS620slim.6x2,5" Slots for SSD or HDD
@@km3481 I like the look of it, not sure if I need all that power, but defo an option. Thanks for the tip.
@@berndkemmereit8252 I will tell you after owning the 453E for half a year, it does extremely well for media. Added another TB of M2.NVME via QTIER and really happy it, perfect for SMB and Prosumer. It decodes much better than I would have thought. That said, I'm now looking at higher end media and options and the TVS-474 would be ideally suited for it. In the next few years 8k will likely become more popular, and even now I have encountered some high end movies I had to play with to get perfect play back. So long and short is that you will need the power sooner than you think, it always happens. I wish I bought the full blown intel and just be done with it...
@@berndkemmereit8252 One other idea, since your are going SSD and want silent is the TS410E. No fans, so perfectly silent.
There is a Chinese nas called dx4600, which is quite nice! Hope you can have a video about it
is the ds418 model more than the ds 423+ for the beginner photographer ???
Can you use other brands' nvme drives for storage pool or does it have to be the Synology brand?
Currently, you can only use Synology SSDs to make NVMe pools, with non Syn drives showing as unverified and blocked for use in pools. They are supported for caching though. Sorry for being the bad news bear man?
@@nascompares I guess Synology only make them in 400gb and 800gb correct?
Dumb question nas noob here, If I Plug my nas in, in a different room so to a different ethernet socket, Will i be able to connect to it as normal? Or will its ip change and Ill have to set it all up again?
I can do direct stream plex 4k hevc with only audio transcoding which is about 25℅ CPU utilization on a 1522+.
Is it compatible with the Seagte Exos X18 18TB drive?
...........what do you think of the "QNAP Turbo Station TS-364-8G, 8GB RAM, 1x 2.5GBase-T" ?????
Ready to buy a NAS but I am torn between synology and asustor. From watching your videos, I guess in a nutshell it is a choice between superior software vs superior hardware for the money, respectively. As an Apple hw user (I use others including windows and Linux since I’m in enterprise “IT”) I’m a bit fed up with price gouging with proprietary hw when spending my own money. Is the software worth the expensive and proprietary hw both initial and future upgrades on the synology side?
Simple answer "no".
Why would anyone, at this moment, buy DS423+, when DS920+ is still available, cheaper, with more RAM, and has ESATA port for further 5 HDD extension...
DS920+ will probably get NVMe, in couple of months (when there no more to buy new), as Synology now has no "hardware explanation" (which is their main explanation that PCI-E 2.0 is problem)
why it cannot be enabled (as same hardware 423+ has it)
Could I use Synology DDR4 4GB 3200 ECC on the DS423+?
This old Celeron doesn't support AVX ....... this limits the use of more DOCKER
Is the price 499?
thanks for the link, but no price, no offers there yet :)
DS423+ is a downgraded DS920+. But you can't get a DS920+ cause they discontinued it. Damn Synology. Pisses me right the hell off.
Synology hopeless tentative response to the angry Plex clients over the last releases, just obsolete hardware, stay away from this, chose any other brand with 2.5GB network and a NEW intel CPU with integrated graphics.
Any noteworthy recommendations?
@@misku_ Gosh, there isn't lack of options out there, try this, Lockerstor4 Gen2, 2 x 2,5GB and 10GB upgradable, PCIe 3.0, USB 3.2 Gen2 10 Gbps and with the NEW intel N5105, just as an example but there is a lot more out there.
@@pbrigham Definitely will take a look, thanks!
@@misku_ I would check out the QNAP 453E or the 464, the 453E is better at Plex than other brands with similar hardware. Think it is more optimized on QNAP. Watch the plex videos to see how they work.
@@misku_ QNAP TS-464 is another good shout
This is a downgraded DS920+. The lower RAM alone is a deal-breaker when you factor in cost.
NOPE... I'm trying to upgrade from an ancient second-hand Synology that admirably still works but is not compatible with the latest DSM software. I'm not going to pay top dollar for a repurposed model from 2020 with a cpu from 2019! I was waiting for the ds423+ to come out but I'll wait for a sale on the ds923+ instead. I don't know what Synology is thinking, but the ds423+ is dead to me.
Am I the only one who needs to watch his videos at 0.75x speed in order to understand/keep up?
Why in hell I can't buy ANY Synology NAS!!!!!!! ????????? all have issues to avoid to buy them, why they don't want release a real solution for everyone.
cha ching:No Sale.
Another Synology hardware fail.
no get qnap
go TrueNAS....
whats the benefit?
Going TrueNas puts me off because of the learning curve 😒
The CPU is fine because it's a 423 series... The bigger CPU will roll out hopefully for the upcoming generations. This is the clearly the base model with base model hardware.
Breathe . Speak slowly
Bro not everyone should do reviews. Your voice is annoying. I got put off
Synology gone downhill
th-cam.com/video/Sv6A0vMBtJ0/w-d-xo.html Got mine at the right time!