I had to pause midway through the video to write thanks a fucking lot man. This was brilliantly well done. What were the movie sources from the video? Blu-ray editions? They look clean as a baby's bottom.
@@MadMaxBible I always interpreted the "waiting ones" explanation of the plane crash and nuclear explosion as their having been in the air possibly fleeing an incoming nuclear missile which detonated when they were mid flight. That seemed more plausible to me than the plane being able to get fueled and taking off after a nuclear explosion since the electromagnetic pulse generated by the explosion would shut down all electronics including the ignition in the fuel trucks as well as the plane's instruments and navigational equipment. That also explains the plane crashing since all flight instruments would have shut down while they were in the air because of the emp. I also felt their illustration of the mushroom cloud on the wall of their cave could have been something they witnessed while in flight, possibly the last memory they had of their flight.
@@MadMaxBible the EMP from a nuke could have been what brought the airliner down. It could have brought down the plane even if it was out of the blast radius by disrupting the electrical systems and navigation, which may be why the plane got lost as well.
I found it amusing that you took the date on the Main Force Patrol sign to be meaningful. I made that sign. I was one of the two traffic stoppers (credited as "Traffic Supervisors") on Mad Max, but for the second unit pickup shots, George simply read out a list of things that needed to be done, and you put up your hand if you were interested. I had an interest in graphics, so I asked for the job of designing and making the Halls of Justice arch, and the Main Force Patrol sign. I just showed George a simple sketch, which he approved, and then he left me to it. The letters on the arch were polystyrene and the sign was masonite. I put "Established 1983" on the sign purely as a private joke, meaning it was the year before George Orwell's "1984". I don't think George Miller even noticed it, and I certainly didn't think anyone else would. Most of the pickup shots were shot by Tim Smart, the clapper-loader on the main shoot, with George and I doing everything else. Likewise, the "Cass was here 1984" is also meaningless. Cass was the second grip on the film, and the date would have been chosen completely randomly, as a joke, without any knowledge of the 1983 on the other sign. By the way, Mad Max was my first film. I then worked in film for another 18 years before training myself to be a graphic designer, which I then did for 25 years. The two careers overlapped for a few years. Mad Max remained the high point of my film career. The fact that the Halls of Justice arch became the opening shot of the film, and has been used many times since in various documentaries, such as this one, is probably the biggest buzz of my life, even though few people know that I made it.
Hi Stuart! :) Yeah I'm familiar with the story of those two dates and that they didn't necessarily mean much in the context of the first film (Because frankly - nobody was really that concerned with any kind of timeline at the time of making the first Mad Max - they were really focused on backstories for characters instead). But I'll have you know that what you call a 'meaningless' dates was actually used as a jump-off point for the timeline of the series right after Terry Hayes got on board to write MM2 and MM3! That's because Terry Hayes was a journalist and when it came to writing a backstory for MM1 and 2 he treated it like an alternative history documentary. So he started with real 1979 Oil Crisis and Saudi Arabia tensions that he turned into a war between the two powers that spiraled the world out of control and then he used an approximation of your dates as the setting of the first movie and he went on from there. You'd be surprised how concerned he was with dates later in the series, for example in the original script for MM3 there are actual dates and references to real world events (like 25th Olympics - 1992, 8.11.2005) which all add up timeline-wise. And this theme actually carried on throughout the entire series even with Fury Road, even though Miller would never admit it, one of his writers actually told me exactly how many years it takes since MMBT. So yeah, those dates you've put in the movie might not have meant a whole lot when you were working on the movie but they definitely became a part of the timeline of the entire series later on:)
@@MadMaxBible Thanks. That's hilarious! I had more influence than I thought : ) By the way, I hung onto the "Main Force Patrol" sign all these years and recently sold it for a ridiculous amount of money. The buyer had been hassling me for years, and finally made an offer I couldn't refuse. The actual arch Tim Smart kept in his parents' garage for years, until finally it got thrown out. He'd be kicking himself now!
"The gas shortage they saw with their own eyes." Man that makes me feel old. I remember sitting in a line on the side of the road to get into a gas station with my dad in his truck. Depending on something...I forget if it was your last name or what...you could only get gas on certain days, like Tuesdays and Thursdays. They also limited how much gas you could get, like you could fill one tank in your car but not fill up a bunch of gas cans or anything. We lived in New Jersey.
@@jakeb526 During that time my grandfather had a special slip or something due to working for the state government that let him get however much gas he wanted. He apparently abused the shit out of it.
Even though it wasn't intended, I think a dystopian film set in an isolated town makes a lot of sense. If the apocalypse happens, it could be a sort of cascade effect, with the major population centers falling first and more isolated communities on the outskirts of civilization falling much later.
That's exactly how it would happen. Out in the country they have the means to grow food, and the violence that results from scarcity wouldn't be a factor. Notice how The Toecutter's gang were all out of towners. They probably came from the city where life was a lot harsher.
The gangs took to the roads scavenging as resources in the cities depleted. I mean look at these people these people are all psychos, Road Wars are not only extraordinarily inefficient and a waste of what is claimed to be very rare and precious gasoline, they're stupidly dangerous.
Yeah that’s a very good point I think it also goes with the idea of the apocalypse in mad max not just being about resources but also being a kind of social contagion like a breakdown of society that starts at its core and spread outward like you say. I also think a lot of these areas would only really notice especially back then that things in the cities were quite unwell and more unwell than normal would be if supplies were disrupted.
@@Leondrius that’s a really good point and I never thought about that. looking back on the film and thinking about it now. He doesn’t even seem like a random drifter toe cutter always looks like he is moving with purpose And the idea of him leaving the city because it is too harsh puts a lot of his actions into perspective. Or at least makes what he’s doing make a lot more sense
Of all the apocalypse movies and shows I've seen, only Mad Max 1 and Jericho show the small town perspective where they don't collapse immediately like a big city would. Good setting to break away from the norm
@@jimbojimbo7103 I think what he means is that the first movie isn't as well known as the other movies, but it's arguably not as good as The Road Warrior
@@rockyhorrorfreakshow5091 I like the cars more more screen time in Mad Max. The opening car chase and the ending Revenge scene was awesome. The only thing I don't like about Roadwarrior I wish we cudda seen his Interceptor more and wasn't wrecked as easy. They should have made it a EPIC car chase for the demise of the Interceptor.
I always liked the idea that max is actually like a mythological character, a spirit of the west if you will, who remembers the world as it was, and driven mad by what it had become. I love it.
If the kids were left to fend for themselves and the oldest were still very tiny children, no books and nobody to tell them about the past, their command of the English language and the vocabulary they used would sound like a borderline different language. I would’ve liked them to play more with that element or language.
Unfortunately, the entire premise of those kids was a rip-off. This sucks but that's the truth, someone else came up with that whole idea and they never got the credit for it.
Always makes me think of Fist Of The North Star, where the younger kids can speak just fine. Considering it was inspired A LOT by Mad Max is telling. Maybe educational resources and books weren't completely wiped out?
I think the idea was taken from the book "Riddly Walker" and is of course, more fantastical from the reality. Also the fact there were some adults at the time of the original landing means some culture must have remained intact, possibly handed down. If it's accuracy in a nuclear war you want (down to the collapse of language and culture), go get a big ass malt liquor and watch Threads. You'll need it.
That’s a good idea but they would have to do it in a way that wasn’t too obtrusive in communicating to the audience the dialogue. I know sometimes when I look at cyberpunk stuff it’s just a bunch of weird adjectives and nouns that you don’t understand what they mean and it’s all like slang for this individual property. And that kind of stuff can be cool as long as you do like one or two per sentence.
@@KingThrillgore Actually I’m pretty sure the story for the airplane people was taken from this idea that the kid had in one of the movies. That he told the Director. I think in an interview they talk about it. How the Director actually took the idea for some of the characters from the idea that one of the kids on set had. I’m sorry I don’t have a link to this video. Or interview but it is some thing I remember seeing.
lol yeah I wondered about that. but it does explain the scavengers search for gasoline. lol. I thought "gazoline" in an Australian accent when I typed it.
cro4591 they need to run fast and them cars are old big xy and stuff cars they last longer u can rebuild them u try and rey build a 2020 car like u can an old Aussie built xy ford
U just want any car that do what u need .that is to last the test of time and get parts for them. and back then xy - holden sandman. where family car not classic so parts-are easy and comon a 4cylinder hatch back like a old ford laser wouldn’t last the time out there trust me
Not interesting.....sledgehammering STUPID and IMPOSSIBLE. max crawls under a car to catch half a cup of dripping fuel in a hub cap. Crap. His car burns half a cup of gas in literally four seconds. It is not science fiction. It is a Fantasy movie, exactly that same as if it had unicorns and faries in it. Fun, yes. But also very very very very STUPID>
@@kingnightelf2256 Moron, the POINT is, it doesn't matter how long lasting these CRAP cars were. They got literally four miles per gallon, which is CRAP.
You're the only person I've seen that understands a nuclear war didn't happen between the first and second movies. He ends the first film entering the wasteland and the second picks that arc up. All my friends think I'm crazy.
It's an easy assumption because when the movie was created two great nations going to war was inherently a nuclear proposition. However, in Miller's universe, the first movie lays out the concept of an energy crisis, the fall of society and the raider gangs. Road Warrior just pushes deeper into the wasteland, however the first time anything nuclear is mentioned is when the guy is trying to sell Max irradiated water in Bartertown. It's a real mind trip once you figure out that the nuclear war was a symptom, not the cause of the universe.
Very well done. But, I do believe that Australia DID receive at least a few nukes in the Holocaust. When Max enters Barter Town he is offered to purchase water and he pulls out a geiger counter(which detects radioactivity) and runs it across the water tank as the geiger counter goes off. The water peddler laughs and says, "A little fallout never hurt anybody!" The fact that Max carries one shows that certain areas and bodies of water ARE radioactive in Australia.
I love the idea of the more bizarre elements of the films being embellishments made during the telling of campfire stories. Gives the films a real uniqueness, particularly Mad Max 2.
I always loved the backstory of Mad Max and how it inspired Fist Of The North Star, as well as post apocalyptic fiction in general. Dark Sun from D&D was also inspired a bit by Mad Max, only in a fantasy setting. And let's not forget Fallout! The thing I suppose that always gripped me with this type of media was that it wasn't too far off from reality. Wars happen, nuclear threat is a terrifying thing, and if course Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It's like an alternate reality, but almost reality. If that did happen, what would humanity do? How would we survive? Would we survive? Or would we be victims of our own hubris? I suppose that's why I was always fascinated by it. And of course, being the low key emo goth biker chic who digs the aesthetic, that works too.
You hit the nail on the head. What sets Mad Max movies apart from other sci-fi is that they show a plausible extension of reality (as much as possible). This comes from George Miller being a fan of Lajos Egri - teacher of creative writing. He proposed that if you write plausible backstories for the world and characters in your story, then the plot will just write itself. Also, when you make a contemporary movie, you can just draw from current history and that will guide the story as well - like in Forest Gump - the guy basically ping-pongs as a character through real world events. But Mad Max is set in a future that doesn't exist so George Miller had to write that history for the world for it work correctly! And that's why he puts so much attention to it, he populates it with characters with rich backstories all grounded in reality and then flips the switch and sees what happens. The stories write themselves basically. But he doesn't outright tell us anything about those backstories, we learn about the characters and the world through their actions.
I always interpreted it this way. In the Mad Max universe there was a Nuclear war.....it's just that Australia wasn't involved. Australia has no Nuclear weapons, and has never even had a nuclear power plant. As a result Australia knows that it would survive a nuclear war simple because they would not be involved. But the loss of the rest of the world created a lot of problems in Australia. As a result civil unrest became a huge problem. Which is where we are in Mad Max 1. Civilization is in it's last breaths in Australia and what we are witnessing is the fraying, inside a year their society will be no more. In Mad Max 2 we see what is happening in the Wastelands. Now why would people choose to live in the Wastelands? They live there because they are escaping the societal collapse of the eastern coast. The carnage around the city must be brutal. As scavangers around the wastelands they can prey on others trying to escape as well. Which is how they survive. Notice that Papa Gallow wants to move the tribe NORTH to "paradise". They want to go to the rainforest and the remains of the city of Darwin. The northern coast of Australia isn't nearly as populated as the east coast. As a result the fighting would be over much more quickly. Which is why the cities are destroyed in Mad Max 3. They were destroyed by riots, fires, and people destroying each other. The radiation might be from winds blowing fallout from asia. It isn't a big problem, but something that people need to be aware of.
Could say the same to you Fred Miller. Nuclear Winter is now pretty much a debunked theory and the effects would not spread to the southern hemisphere anyway.
That's right. It's the principle as introduced by the nuclear docu-drama 'Threads'; actually explaining the title itself. It goes to show how dependent we are on not just resources, but also each other, how the infrastructure is a fragile web that can be blown apart by even one factor change. Once overseas trade and commerce ceased to be, Australia also suffers due to financial fallout, businesses go bankrupt, millions of jobs lost, law and order descends into anarchy. Australian population has grown so large since the mid-1880's that it suddenly groans beneath its own weight, and without external positives suddenly cannot support itself. It is dependent on foreign relations. As are nearly all present-day countries.
One interesting note to your research is there was in the time frame of these movies a post nuclear war novel called "On the Beach" which depicts the final days of Australia after nuclear bombs destroy other parts of the world. It recognizes even if Australia isn't bombed, the fallout and collapse of world civilization will destroy theirs. It is possible Miller combined some of this concept into how Mad Max's post World War writing works. Our researcher does an excellent job recognizing how Mad Max is essentially a mythological character rather than a historically accurate one, hence he exists in story and accounts for differences in detail.
On the beach was a terrific book by Neville Shute and has been made into a movie twice. The ending in the book is terrifying with everyone being issued with syringes of a drug to make you go to sleep and just die and in the last pages a father and mother inject their baby then themselves as the sun sets.....
As a child my father was a drag racer with a lat 70's Camaro. It was all primer and roll caged. Seeing Mad Max on a Sunday afternoon on TV back then I became sucked into the world that would literately hold my interest for the next 30 years of my life. I was absorbed by all of your videos. Great insight and great work.
The people on the plane inThunderdome tried to escape the city's and nuke hotspots with family under the guidance of Walker who had access to a Boeing(probably family and friends) . The nukes fell midflight bringing the plane down due to blast waves, electrical circuit malfunction and possibly fuel shortage. The survivors found crack in the earth after recovering themselves and a hard slog ensued probely losing many people. The so called parents went out to seek survivors and help but succumbed to the harsh desert, quick sand surrondings hungry animals and the cold hardend alpha people who roamed it.
Idk i feel like we can just say that a group of survivors found the aircraft in ok shape, as nobody was scavenging scrap metal yet, and the underground kerosene silos were still untouched, as most people, using petrol engines, couldn't burn Kerosene, and so Walker fueled up the plane and of they went, only for some break down to become apparent mid flight, simply because of the maintenance stop
Probably had nowhere to land and ran out of fuel eventually, which would explain why the plane didn't blow up after crashing. The cities weren't safe, so they had to risk everything flying to an unknown destination. Better than dealing with the gangs on the highways.
I believe the plane was running out of fuel and they spotted the oasis they landed the plane nearby. The issue with fuel for the plane does fit the backstory of Mad Max 2.
I like to think of each film as it's own legend. The first film was less of a dystopia because the people telling the story were alive when things were normal. The further into the future the storytelling, the less recognizable the setting. Everything became more barren and hopeless, so the stories/legends mirrored it. In a world of violence, suffering and death, I bet our religious figures would stop looking like Jesus and start looking more like Mad Max. Maybe Max is a combination of many different characters that fought for justice in a ruthless society. Each film has it's own belief systems, just as you would imagine. Mad Max is just another "legend/religious figure" that transcended into different cultures (example; Immortan Joe remained localized and his legend never reached a broader audience). Also, the back story might change the further into the future (away from the apocalyptic event) that's why it isn't consistent throughout each film. I don't know, these are just my thoughts regarding the films. It makes sense to me.
I rented the first Mad Max from the video store when I was about 11 years old. I fell in love with these movies. Using the tracking feature on my vhs tape player so I could actually see the movie.
We won't. George is tied up in a legal battle with the studio that could drag on for ages. Even if that gets settled there may be too much love lost between them to settle their differences and make another movie. George is claiming he is owed a bonus for coming in under budget. The studio claims because of optional re shoots it was over and are refusing to pay him.
Graet explanation!! I am a huge fan of MadMax movies, and I was also thinking about timeline if the events, and connection between all movies! But, I tought that nuclear war happened after MM1, but now, when I saw these videos, I'm sure that war took place after MM2! My TimeLine would be like this: 1973 - colapse of the social system, lack of oil...; 1983 - MFP established; 1984 - death if Jim Goose, also death of Max's family, when he quit job in MFP; 1984-1989 - five years he was wandering on the roads and living life completely alone; 1989 - Mad Mad 2 "The Road Warrior" takes place, just before Nuclear war; 1990 - Nuclear war happened; 1997/98/99 - captain Walker tried to escape with those kids from MM3 on the plane ang crashed into the desert; 2005 - Mad Max 3 takes place (about 15 years after MM2);
That was my impression that the war was breaking out and Captain Walker got the plane out and either an EMP or most likely the shockwaves from the blast that possibly hit Sydney caused the plane to crash.
This is really fun man!! Tbh I always took Mad Max more like "the man with no name" trilogy where it was a similar character with a similar background but not directly connected. Thanks for putting in the work to tie them all together for me
Great work dude!!! This answers a ton of questions I've always had about the lore and its great to to finally have a video to post when people ask any of the common questions.
The Mad Max story line to me has always been about what happens when social collapse takes place. Outstanding video by the way. One of the most worthwhile, thought out and professional time analogy of the series. Cheers!
This is cool and all but I wish Thunderdome ended up better of a movie than it really was... George Ogilvie was a terrible choice in co-Director, he turned the movie into The Goonies.
The kids RUINED Thunderdome,along with the PG-13 rating. They turned max into a clumsy,pratfalling Indiana Jones in that movie,totally blew a film that could have been as brutal and epic as MM2.
Phoenix Pilot I get a Hook vibe more than anything but I can see Goonies as well. Maybe Hook came out after BT? Too lazy to look right now lol but still, when I watch it I think about Hook. Never never land, all that shit
Excellent work. There's something fun, here in France in the VHS cassette of the french version of the road warrior it was written that the movie takes place in the year 4000 ! Even when I was twelve I found it really dumb
soulclone6+ Thats sounds like an odd thing . Do you happen to know who wrote the story at th back of these cassettes in the VHS-era in France ? In the 80s there was a lot of weird things going on regarding movies and videos.
Mad Max 2 was released as The Road Warrior basically as a stand alone movie in many countries. I assume whomever was responsible for the release in France wrote that to try to help sell it as a long abandoned civilization setting as many wouldn't have seen the first film.
well done , but i would posit that .......... 1) mad max takes place in the very least in the LATE 80"s based on the weathering on the signs . 2) while the guy selling irradiated water does suggest a nuclear exchange , its possible that it was only a minor power using it . the appearance of "mushroom " clouds isnt limited to nukes , but also fuel air explosives that the major powers all have access too and would be MUCH more likely to use , and when used in mass WOULD be akin to an apocalypse . 3) life is hard , the adults left the kids in the crack in the earth because it was a place they knew was mostly safe and because they had to . the crack was big enough for a small tribe such as the kids , but when you add in adults ( who will eventually have MORE kids ) the food supply will not keep pace with the population . they couldnt take the kids WITH them through the desert , so they left them , and they had no intention of returning or else they would have left some of the weaker adults there .
In movie, Max confirms WW3 happened and that there were explosions, when he tries to explain it to children. The airplane for example was knocked out of sky because of a Nuke Explosion.
@Mad Max Bible I loved both of Your timeline videos. Great to watch and entertaining. From the real FERAL KID, now Chief Of The Great Northern Tribe. 👍🏼
High altitude nuclear detonation can act as emps, maybe the plane was mid air during a nuclear strike causing the electronics to fail and the plane to crash.
His voice isnt the same even if his laryngeal muscles were burned. "Were gonna give em back to the heros!" For that matter how do we know the feral kid wasnt Maxes son miraculously survived the killing by Toecutter? Not to draw un needed correlations.
I have to agree. This was a brilliant video. I’ve watched the Mad Max films multiple times over many years and after long breaks and I only recently started to think about the timeline and backstory. This was a satisfying explanation even if it’s not 100% official, the narrator gives enough links in the movies to make it accurate enough. I have to be honest, the dates which are mentioned, I never noticed and as I said I’ve watched the first three movies multiple times and Fury Road twice. Thanks for taking the time.
The EMP from a nuke could have been what brought the airliner down. It could happen even though the plane was out of range of the blast radius. Could also fry the navigation, which may be why they got lost.
Thank you! This video is stupendous! This confirms a lot of what I had pieced together myself, but with great added touches like the little touches like the actual years or the fact the oil war was already ongoing (though I suppose it made sense, it was in the early-ish stages). The original script for Mad Max 2 had a far better intro that would have spelled out the energy crisis causing modern society to stop far better than the recycled footage they ended up using, but oh well - at least it would have laid the whole 'post nuclear' thing to rest for good.
As a fan who has seen every Mad Max film in the movie house on it's original run, I have to say that I never really wondered too much about the timeline or the back story. The first 2 movies MM1 & Road Warrior were pretty much pure action movies. Then Thunderdome expanded the Mad Max myth to the point of super hero status and it seemed like a natural end of the franchise. Then comes Fury Road and a whole new sequence and reasoning has to be imagined to give that movie a reason for being, but no matter how we try to twist it, the film just doesn't stand with the other 3 and while entertaining it's really the odd man out that got made simply because there was financing available.
Great work,.... I started watching your video while I exercised and simply stopped and sat down to take it all in,.... I am huge fan of all of the films and you answered a great deal of my questions regarding the mythology of it all.... thanks again...
I'm guessing your video was recommended to me as I recently started playing the 2015 Mad Max game for the first time. I've always been curious about the timeline, so I appreciate your efforts here!
Wow. Top notch video. Well done. I grew up in the 1980's and with the threat of the Cold War and Thermonuclear Annihilation that could occur at any moment, you could say "Mad Max movies spoke to me". It was like a forewarning of a possible... or rather... likely... future. I still think it could easily happen. The veneer of society is very thin. Hurricane Katrina showed us this, along with the LA Riots and a city-wide power outage in my rather isolated home town of 130,000 people.
Thankyou for this, it explains a lot. I always thought in the timeline at least one nuke did hit Australia because in Mad Max 3 when Max first approaches Barter Town, he meets a guy selling irradiated water and says "whats a bit of fallout". So the water would have to come from somewhere close that is exposed to radiation, however I always assumed that a nuke hit between Mad Max 1 and Mad Max 2. I get that Max traveled to the wastelands because the cities where in chaos, but it might also make sense that he is getting away from irradiated areas. Also in Mad Max 1 there are all these news reports that you hear in the background talking about how they are losing contact with other countries, suggesting that other countries are already at war at that point in the timeline and that nukes maybe already have been involved. Then after the events of Mad Max 1 at least one nuke hits Australia. The kids from the plane crash in Mad Max 3 could have been told this story from their parents on why the world is why it is and that they are trying to get away from irradiated areas travelling inland. To me there is not enough evidence to determine why the plane crashed, it could have been anything from unforeseen weather conditions, to untrained pilot attempting to fly, to mechanical failure or even just couldn't find a place to land the plane safely until they literally ran out of fuel. Speaking about the Waiting Ones, its very unlikely that any parent/adult would leave children unattended or protected, so my theory is this- because Barter Town is the closest civilization to the Crank in the Earth, I believe the adults of the Waiting Ones came across Barter Town (possibly while searching of the first party that went missing that most likely were taken by the quicksand that surrounds the the Crack in the Earth) and possibly even traded with Barter Town and even returned to the Crack in the Earth. Then after slavers in Barter Town heard there is a colony that is living out in the sand dunes, Barter Town sent their own to gather them up and the remaining adults gave themselves up to them so they wouldn't find the kids. There are 2 reasons for this theory, 1 it would explain why the last remaining adults would leave the kids behind unattended/protected by surrendering to them first, 2- the reason why the slavers went in search of the colony in the sand dunes in the first place may have been provoked by one of the adults that tried to procure a pig from the pig farm in Barter Town. The reason for this is the man that Max meets in the pig farm with "Pig Killer" scared on his chest tells Max the reason why he killed a pig was to feed the kids (as in possibly the Waiting Ones). Also when that man comes across one of the kids he laughs as if he knew where the kid came from and was happy they survived, also he is the only slave that joins Master, Max and the kids on the train when they escape from Barter Town, suggesting that the kids do know who he is. Its all just a theory but it would explain a lot, anyway thankyou for great video that explains the history of Mad Max
Great comment! It is like you filled a gap in my puzzle of thought. Thanks! Also I always thought that Jedediah is in fact the gyrocaptain, when I saw the movie , and saw their interaction, felt that they were trying to remember if they know each other from somewhere...
Based on the police force sign the first Mad Max would have to take place later than 1984. Unless you are saying Max was only a cop for a year and the buliding is inly a year old? The sign looks aged, Mad Max takes place far later than 1984.
It would only mean that it has to be after 1983/1984 since those are the dates written. I'd say I agree it could likely be at least 10 years. Just for the fact that Max isn't a kid. He has experience and it's obvious the Halls of Justice have seen better times. I'd say closer to early 90's. Enough time for justice to fail out in the border areas but still have civilized lifestyles in the towns closer to the larger cities.
Hall of Justice was that building. The building itself looks atleast 20 years old on the inside and outside. Not to mention (they state after the fall of society) So I believe the first movie is set in or after the 90's maybe 21st century the start. If we go by the sign of Est. in 1983
I rewatched the part of the sign's. They could have picked some sort of police base (old warehouse to function as the new location to work out) Main Force Patrol for the Lawless roads they have to patrol. So it's unclear if the policeforce has been around for long. I still would go by atleast in the 90's.
Excellent commentary. My buddies and me rode our bikes down rt. 11 from Dublin va to a drive in theater in Radford Virginia sat in the graveyard with a transistor radio and watched Mad Max when it came out. I miss being 14.
The " Oil Crises " didn't affect Australia, we were importing oil from countries in S. E. Asia that didn't restrict supply, that was mostly in the Middle East where Europe and the U.S.A.were getting oil from. Our delivery delays were from oil industry workers striking for higher wages. We heard about the " Oil Crises " in the news.
What was truly astounding was that most Americans blamed the oil companys when they were innocent participants. It was the supplying countries political changes and desire for a higher return that caused it.
got recommended this by random earlier, never seen these films. i guess i have another week to spare getting absolutely obsessed with a franchise out of nowhere.
Mad Max and Road Warrior, two of the best most intense disturbing and yet entertaining movies ever made. Lost its intensity and realism once Hollywood got hold of it.
@Convivial Cannibal Clan I agree....Thunderdome was a bit too imaginative for most people and perhaps it was a bit over the top.....I still thought it was good.....at least there's two of us :)
As many times as I've seen the first 2, I never knew about the "Est. 1983" sign or that Papagallos was an oil co. CEO & that's how he knew where there the oil pump was that they settled on. Awesome video!
I love the first because it was the first one i saw as a kid, but it is abit tacky, the second film keeps most of the grit of the first while getting rid of the tackyness. Unfortunately for me atleast beyond thunderdome went a little too far with some of the silliness and then fury road to me was a bad imitation of what i think of as mad max.
Fun fact about mad Max 2 in the original script it was going to be revealed that Lord humongous was actually Max's cop friend goose from the first movie who had survived but was violently scarred and went insane this is also supposed to explain why lord humongous gang has police gear
Excellent. Mad Max 11 is in my all time favourite top ten. It's short, packed and has one of the best start, middle and end of any action movie. On a par with Terminator.
Just rewatched mad max 2 and it was freaking awesome. The ending scene where humungus dies is the one flaw but other then that, a truely great movie. And it inspired all the post apolyptic movies that came after that. Plus a thousand video games too like rage 2
Wow...enlightening and seems to be well researched. I really appreciated the explanations of some of the back stories that Miller created which we never really saw. I also have n even deeper appreciation for Miller's depiction of how quickly solid history falls to legends, then stories and into pure myth when civilizations fall. That's something directly relevant to historical research today as we see the remains of a global civilization that collapsed 11-12k years ago. Internet/electrical info to paper to wood and stone or just stories are steps that would happen a lot faster than we might think. On to part 2 lol.
Prevideo, my friends and I went to see Mad Max at the drive in theatre. 2.50$ a car load and could we load a car! It was our Star Wars and went a couple of nights. Thanks for all your hard work putting this together. 👍
There's a fan theory that Mad Max 2 and Thunderdome never really happened. Max had a psychotic break after the first one and the sequels are his nightmares. Not sure I agree but it's interesting.
Thank you!!!! The Road Warrior is one of my all time favorite movies but I’ve never cared for Mad Max. I may have a whole new appreciation now. As for Thunderdome.......
Steve Dicus I saw the first film when I was a child and barely remember it. I’ve only seen fury road which is now one of my favorite films. I’ve never had such a powerful sensory experience. The cinematography was so raw and beautiful it evokes so much emotion. The music was used as a way to express each character and scene and a way to replace long dialogues and scripts. The costume,character, and prop/set designs were used to represent the world and be as symbols of the human consciousness. It’s truly George millers best work to date. He really pushed the boundaries of what storytelling in film and cinema can be.
I know they say a "limited exchange" in the Northern Hemisphere would not affect Australia, but for nightmare fuel, and if you like the PA genre, read "On the Beach" by Neville Schute.
What works so well is not having to explain the world and events in the movie through expositional dialogue or footage. It can get right to the action and convey everything it needs through the setting and feel of the movie. The audience can formulate their own ideas if they like but it's not a requirement to explain any of it.
"This is testin' Walker!! You reckon we been slack!?" "I dont know, maybe you been slack.." I love when he punches the guy of the Lost Tribe , Waiting Ones, and the reaction was like they had never seen someone punch another person.
softdorothy I still love it. It was the first Mad Max film I saw. Saw it in the movie theater and it knocked me out. It actually holds up really well and fits in with Max’s journey.
It could have been about anything. And they made a mad max movie with little driving, bad sci fi and 40 child performances. Its tonally inconsistent and slow but worst of all the character motivations make no fkn sense at all. No one has any reason for doing what they do at all, its almost interesting just for that.
I must say, I really loved the setting of the first movie the best. It felt like there was a functioning society, but something felt wrong, as if they were more or less clinging to what little order they had left, instead of it being flat out deserts and crazies everywhere. Still, I love the series. I just watched the first one the other day and loved the crap out of it. I wanna binge the full movie series. Also, I have a question, is the mad max game considered canon, and which timeline is it canon to?
There is a theory that the kids are sent to the crack in the earth from Bartertown and when they reach adulthood they leave like Captain walker and return to Bartertown.
14:00 When you said "let's do the math" my first thought was "how old does Finn look and when did Savannah get pregnant with him, and how old was she...?" revealing how the "rebuilding of society" happened at, you know, a pretty young age... I think it's a good thing you didn't go into this.
@@Scottocaster6668 Mentally and ethically, yes, but biologically, it can be possible. There have been cases of fathers impregnating their 9 year old daughters, in at least one case the daughter actually carried out the pregnancy and the baby was born.
thnx for the videos man awesome job of expanding on the mad max world for fans who didnt know this, cant wait till this comes up in conversation and someone be all like mad max is set after ww3 and i be all like ahum well actually my friend then proceed to educate them on the world of mad max as if i learnt it all from the movies
i like the fact that the past is so obscured, the survivors in the movie barely understand a world they left behind. it keeps with the canon of the film, everyone is thinking more about the present than the inconsequential result of the past
I had to pause midway through the video to write thanks a fucking lot man. This was brilliantly well done. What were the movie sources from the video? Blu-ray editions? They look clean as a baby's bottom.
Thanks! Yes, all of the movie footage was from Blu Ray editions.
@@MadMaxBible I always interpreted the "waiting ones" explanation of the plane crash and nuclear explosion as their having been in the air possibly fleeing an incoming nuclear missile which detonated when they were mid flight. That seemed more plausible to me than the plane being able to get fueled and taking off after a nuclear explosion since the electromagnetic pulse generated by the explosion would shut down all electronics including the ignition in the fuel trucks as well as the plane's instruments and navigational equipment. That also explains the plane crashing since all flight instruments would have shut down while they were in the air because of the emp. I also felt their illustration of the mushroom cloud on the wall of their cave could have been something they witnessed while in flight, possibly the last memory they had of their flight.
@@guerrillapress77
That's how I always interpreted it.
@@MadMaxBible the EMP from a nuke could have been what brought the airliner down. It could have brought down the plane even if it was out of the blast radius by disrupting the electrical systems and navigation, which may be why the plane got lost as well.
@Top Turf Rofl, i know it's wrong :D
So Nightcrawler is basically modern take on what George Miller wanted to do with first Mad Max.
I have not seen Nightcrawler, but have you seen Bringing Out the Dead?
What is nightcrawler
Go see Nightcrawler and enjoy a great movie..
Nightcrawler is a great movie!
Somewhat but the guy in Nightcrawler was a psychopath and Miller was thinking of an ordinary person going crazy.
I found it amusing that you took the date on the Main Force Patrol sign to be meaningful. I made that sign. I was one of the two traffic stoppers (credited as "Traffic Supervisors") on Mad Max, but for the second unit pickup shots, George simply read out a list of things that needed to be done, and you put up your hand if you were interested. I had an interest in graphics, so I asked for the job of designing and making the Halls of Justice arch, and the Main Force Patrol sign. I just showed George a simple sketch, which he approved, and then he left me to it. The letters on the arch were polystyrene and the sign was masonite. I put "Established 1983" on the sign purely as a private joke, meaning it was the year before George Orwell's "1984". I don't think George Miller even noticed it, and I certainly didn't think anyone else would. Most of the pickup shots were shot by Tim Smart, the clapper-loader on the main shoot, with George and I doing everything else. Likewise, the "Cass was here 1984" is also meaningless. Cass was the second grip on the film, and the date would have been chosen completely randomly, as a joke, without any knowledge of the 1983 on the other sign. By the way, Mad Max was my first film. I then worked in film for another 18 years before training myself to be a graphic designer, which I then did for 25 years. The two careers overlapped for a few years. Mad Max remained the high point of my film career. The fact that the Halls of Justice arch became the opening shot of the film, and has been used many times since in various documentaries, such as this one, is probably the biggest buzz of my life, even though few people know that I made it.
Hi Stuart! :)
Yeah I'm familiar with the story of those two dates and that they didn't necessarily mean much in the context of the first film (Because frankly - nobody was really that concerned with any kind of timeline at the time of making the first Mad Max - they were really focused on backstories for characters instead). But I'll have you know that what you call a 'meaningless' dates was actually used as a jump-off point for the timeline of the series right after Terry Hayes got on board to write MM2 and MM3! That's because Terry Hayes was a journalist and when it came to writing a backstory for MM1 and 2 he treated it like an alternative history documentary. So he started with real 1979 Oil Crisis and Saudi Arabia tensions that he turned into a war between the two powers that spiraled the world out of control and then he used an approximation of your dates as the setting of the first movie and he went on from there. You'd be surprised how concerned he was with dates later in the series, for example in the original script for MM3 there are actual dates and references to real world events (like 25th Olympics - 1992, 8.11.2005) which all add up timeline-wise. And this theme actually carried on throughout the entire series even with Fury Road, even though Miller would never admit it, one of his writers actually told me exactly how many years it takes since MMBT. So yeah, those dates you've put in the movie might not have meant a whole lot when you were working on the movie but they definitely became a part of the timeline of the entire series later on:)
@@MadMaxBible Thanks. That's hilarious! I had more influence than I thought : ) By the way, I hung onto the "Main Force Patrol" sign all these years and recently sold it for a ridiculous amount of money. The buyer had been hassling me for years, and finally made an offer I couldn't refuse. The actual arch Tim Smart kept in his parents' garage for years, until finally it got thrown out. He'd be kicking himself now!
"The gas shortage they saw with their own eyes." Man that makes me feel old. I remember sitting in a line on the side of the road to get into a gas station with my dad in his truck. Depending on something...I forget if it was your last name or what...you could only get gas on certain days, like Tuesdays and Thursdays. They also limited how much gas you could get, like you could fill one tank in your car but not fill up a bunch of gas cans or anything. We lived in New Jersey.
It was the last number of your vehicle registration plate. Odd one day, even the next.
My dad was born in 1970, he told me about the 78 fuel shortage and that him and my grandfather would sit in line for hours for fuel.
@@jakeb526 During that time my grandfather had a special slip or something due to working for the state government that let him get however much gas he wanted.
He apparently abused the shit out of it.
@@vaultdweller1386 Congratulations, you just ratted your grandpa out. Take him away boys.
America's first mass social experiment.
Even though it wasn't intended, I think a dystopian film set in an isolated town makes a lot of sense. If the apocalypse happens, it could be a sort of cascade effect, with the major population centers falling first and more isolated communities on the outskirts of civilization falling much later.
That's exactly how it would happen. Out in the country they have the means to grow food, and the violence that results from scarcity wouldn't be a factor. Notice how The Toecutter's gang were all out of towners. They probably came from the city where life was a lot harsher.
The gangs took to the roads scavenging as resources in the cities depleted. I mean look at these people these people are all psychos, Road Wars are not only extraordinarily inefficient and a waste of what is claimed to be very rare and precious gasoline, they're stupidly dangerous.
Yeah that’s a very good point I think it also goes with the idea of the apocalypse in mad max not just being about resources but also being a kind of social contagion like a breakdown of society that starts at its core and spread outward like you say. I also think a lot of these areas would only really notice especially back then that things in the cities were quite unwell and more unwell than normal would be if supplies were disrupted.
@@Leondrius that’s a really good point and I never thought about that. looking back on the film and thinking about it now. He doesn’t even seem like a random drifter toe cutter always looks like he is moving with purpose And the idea of him leaving the city because it is too harsh puts a lot of his actions into perspective. Or at least makes what he’s doing make a lot more sense
Of all the apocalypse movies and shows I've seen, only Mad Max 1 and Jericho show the small town perspective where they don't collapse immediately like a big city would. Good setting to break away from the norm
The first Mad Max movie is an under-rated classic.
It wasn't underrated at all, i'm sure folk don't know what underrated means.
@@jimbojimbo7103 I think what he means is that the first movie isn't as well known as the other movies, but it's arguably not as good as The Road Warrior
such a feel good comfort movie for me!
@@rockyhorrorfreakshow5091 I like the cars more more screen time in Mad Max. The opening car chase and the ending Revenge scene was awesome. The only thing I don't like about Roadwarrior I wish we cudda seen his Interceptor more and wasn't wrecked as easy. They should have made it a EPIC car chase for the demise of the Interceptor.
@Fred Jaminson they're all great but each one is for different people.
I always liked the idea that max is actually like a mythological character, a spirit of the west if you will, who remembers the world as it was, and driven mad by what it had become. I love it.
If the kids were left to fend for themselves and the oldest were still very tiny children, no books and nobody to tell them about the past, their command of the English language and the vocabulary they used would sound like a borderline different language. I would’ve liked them to play more with that element or language.
Unfortunately, the entire premise of those kids was a rip-off. This sucks but that's the truth, someone else came up with that whole idea and they never got the credit for it.
Always makes me think of Fist Of The North Star, where the younger kids can speak just fine. Considering it was inspired A LOT by Mad Max is telling. Maybe educational resources and books weren't completely wiped out?
I think the idea was taken from the book "Riddly Walker" and is of course, more fantastical from the reality. Also the fact there were some adults at the time of the original landing means some culture must have remained intact, possibly handed down.
If it's accuracy in a nuclear war you want (down to the collapse of language and culture), go get a big ass malt liquor and watch Threads. You'll need it.
That’s a good idea but they would have to do it in a way that wasn’t too obtrusive in communicating to the audience the dialogue. I know sometimes when I look at cyberpunk stuff it’s just a bunch of weird adjectives and nouns that you don’t understand what they mean and it’s all like slang for this individual property. And that kind of stuff can be cool as long as you do like one or two per sentence.
@@KingThrillgore Actually I’m pretty sure the story for the airplane people was taken from this idea that the kid had in one of the movies. That he told the Director. I think in an interview they talk about it. How the Director actually took the idea for some of the characters from the idea that one of the kids on set had. I’m sorry I don’t have a link to this video. Or interview but it is some thing I remember seeing.
Interesting that with fuel being so scarce, everyone was driving hyper-guzzling vehicles.
lol yeah I wondered about that. but it does explain the scavengers search for gasoline. lol. I thought "gazoline" in an Australian accent when I typed it.
cro4591 they need to run fast and them cars are old big xy and stuff cars they last longer u can rebuild them u try and rey build a 2020 car like u can an old Aussie built xy ford
U just want any car that do what u need .that is to last the test of time and get parts for them. and back then xy - holden sandman. where family car not classic so parts-are easy and comon a 4cylinder hatch back like a old ford laser wouldn’t last the time out there trust me
Not interesting.....sledgehammering STUPID and IMPOSSIBLE. max crawls under a car to catch half a cup of dripping fuel in a hub cap. Crap. His car burns half a cup of
gas in literally four seconds. It is not science fiction. It is a Fantasy movie, exactly that same as if it had unicorns and faries in it.
Fun, yes. But also very very very very STUPID>
@@kingnightelf2256 Moron, the POINT is, it doesn't matter how long lasting these CRAP cars were. They got literally four miles per gallon, which is CRAP.
You're the only person I've seen that understands a nuclear war didn't happen between the first and second movies. He ends the first film entering the wasteland and the second picks that arc up.
All my friends think I'm crazy.
I could have sworn the opening narration in Mad Max 2 mentioning the nuclear war but after rewatching it I couldn't find it.
It's an easy assumption because when the movie was created two great nations going to war was inherently a nuclear proposition. However, in Miller's universe, the first movie lays out the concept of an energy crisis, the fall of society and the raider gangs. Road Warrior just pushes deeper into the wasteland, however the first time anything nuclear is mentioned is when the guy is trying to sell Max irradiated water in Bartertown.
It's a real mind trip once you figure out that the nuclear war was a symptom, not the cause of the universe.
cuz people remember the poxy- clips from Thunderdome and assume it was nukes caused everything to go to Hell
Very well done. But, I do believe that Australia DID receive at least a few nukes in the Holocaust. When Max enters Barter Town he is offered to purchase water and he pulls out a geiger counter(which detects radioactivity) and runs it across the water tank as the geiger counter goes off. The water peddler laughs and says, "A little fallout never hurt anybody!" The fact that Max carries one shows that certain areas and bodies of water ARE radioactive in Australia.
@@hemidas Mandela affect perhaps
I love the idea of the more bizarre elements of the films being embellishments made during the telling of campfire stories. Gives the films a real uniqueness, particularly Mad Max 2.
"A terminal crazy."
That's a perfect description of society.
You ain't kidding me starting to wonder where is rubbing off on me
The Amygdala is what makes Humans the way they are, "crazy".
And today's shitshow... Make me some pop corn
I always loved the backstory of Mad Max and how it inspired Fist Of The North Star, as well as post apocalyptic fiction in general. Dark Sun from D&D was also inspired a bit by Mad Max, only in a fantasy setting. And let's not forget Fallout! The thing I suppose that always gripped me with this type of media was that it wasn't too far off from reality. Wars happen, nuclear threat is a terrifying thing, and if course Hiroshima and Nagasaki. It's like an alternate reality, but almost reality. If that did happen, what would humanity do? How would we survive? Would we survive? Or would we be victims of our own hubris? I suppose that's why I was always fascinated by it. And of course, being the low key emo goth biker chic who digs the aesthetic, that works too.
You hit the nail on the head. What sets Mad Max movies apart from other sci-fi is that they show a plausible extension of reality (as much as possible). This comes from George Miller being a fan of Lajos Egri - teacher of creative writing. He proposed that if you write plausible backstories for the world and characters in your story, then the plot will just write itself. Also, when you make a contemporary movie, you can just draw from current history and that will guide the story as well - like in Forest Gump - the guy basically ping-pongs as a character through real world events.
But Mad Max is set in a future that doesn't exist so George Miller had to write that history for the world for it work correctly! And that's why he puts so much attention to it, he populates it with characters with rich backstories all grounded in reality and then flips the switch and sees what happens. The stories write themselves basically. But he doesn't outright tell us anything about those backstories, we learn about the characters and the world through their actions.
This comment made my day :).
I always interpreted it this way.
In the Mad Max universe there was a Nuclear war.....it's just that Australia wasn't involved. Australia has no Nuclear weapons, and has never even had a nuclear power plant. As a result Australia knows that it would survive a nuclear war simple because they would not be involved.
But the loss of the rest of the world created a lot of problems in Australia. As a result civil unrest became a huge problem. Which is where we are in Mad Max 1. Civilization is in it's last breaths in Australia and what we are witnessing is the fraying, inside a year their society will be no more.
In Mad Max 2 we see what is happening in the Wastelands. Now why would people choose to live in the Wastelands? They live there because they are escaping the societal collapse of the eastern coast. The carnage around the city must be brutal. As scavangers around the wastelands they can prey on others trying to escape as well. Which is how they survive. Notice that Papa Gallow wants to move the tribe NORTH to "paradise". They want to go to the rainforest and the remains of the city of Darwin. The northern coast of Australia isn't nearly as populated as the east coast. As a result the fighting would be over much more quickly.
Which is why the cities are destroyed in Mad Max 3. They were destroyed by riots, fires, and people destroying each other. The radiation might be from winds blowing fallout from asia. It isn't a big problem, but something that people need to be aware of.
Could say the same to you Fred Miller. Nuclear Winter is now pretty much a debunked theory and the effects would not spread to the southern hemisphere anyway.
There are at least three American intelligence bases in Australia that are prime nuclear targets.
Wow. A whole three? Japan must be really lucky, one more nuke and they would have been gonners lol
That's right. It's the principle as introduced by the nuclear docu-drama 'Threads'; actually explaining the title itself. It goes to show how dependent we are on not just resources, but also each other, how the infrastructure is a fragile web that can be blown apart by even one factor change. Once overseas trade and commerce ceased to be, Australia also suffers due to financial fallout, businesses go bankrupt, millions of jobs lost, law and order descends into anarchy. Australian population has grown so large since the mid-1880's that it suddenly groans beneath its own weight, and without external positives suddenly cannot support itself. It is dependent on foreign relations. As are nearly all present-day countries.
UchronianKing what a pile shit.
One interesting note to your research is there was in the time frame of these movies a post nuclear war novel
called "On the Beach" which depicts the final days of Australia after nuclear bombs destroy other parts of the world.
It recognizes even if Australia isn't bombed, the fallout and collapse of world civilization will destroy theirs.
It is possible Miller combined some of this concept into how Mad Max's post World War writing works.
Our researcher does an excellent job recognizing how Mad Max is essentially a mythological character rather
than a historically accurate one, hence he exists in story and accounts for differences in detail.
That was my take also
Yeah just like Jesus
JG Ballard is the GOAT of 60s Spec-Fi
On the beach was a terrific book by Neville Shute and has been made into a movie twice. The ending in the book is terrifying with everyone being issued with syringes of a drug to make you go to sleep and just die and in the last pages a father and mother inject their baby then themselves as the sun sets.....
@@Sinner987Jesus is the only mythology that is real.
As a child my father was a drag racer with a lat 70's Camaro. It was all primer and roll caged. Seeing Mad Max on a Sunday afternoon on TV back then I became sucked into the world that would literately hold my interest for the next 30 years of my life. I was absorbed by all of your videos. Great insight and great work.
Should check out the event called Wasteland Weekend, might be a great roadtrip for that Camaro.
The people on the plane inThunderdome tried to escape the city's and nuke hotspots with family under the guidance of Walker who had access to a Boeing(probably family and friends) . The nukes fell midflight bringing the plane down due to blast waves, electrical circuit malfunction and possibly fuel shortage. The survivors found crack in the earth after recovering themselves and a hard slog ensued probely losing many people. The so called parents went out to seek survivors and help but succumbed to the harsh desert, quick sand surrondings hungry animals and the cold hardend alpha people who roamed it.
Idk i feel like we can just say that a group of survivors found the aircraft in ok shape, as nobody was scavenging scrap metal yet, and the underground kerosene silos were still untouched, as most people, using petrol engines, couldn't burn Kerosene, and so Walker fueled up the plane and of they went, only for some break down to become apparent mid flight, simply because of the maintenance stop
Probably had nowhere to land and ran out of fuel eventually, which would explain why the plane didn't blow up after crashing. The cities weren't safe, so they had to risk everything flying to an unknown destination. Better than dealing with the gangs on the highways.
I believe the plane was running out of fuel and they spotted the oasis they landed the plane nearby. The issue with fuel for the plane does fit the backstory of Mad Max 2.
I like to think of each film as it's own legend. The first film was less of a dystopia because the people telling the story were alive when things were normal. The further into the future the storytelling, the less recognizable the setting. Everything became more barren and hopeless, so the stories/legends mirrored it.
In a world of violence, suffering and death, I bet our religious figures would stop looking like Jesus and start looking more like Mad Max. Maybe Max is a combination of many different characters that fought for justice in a ruthless society. Each film has it's own belief systems, just as you would imagine. Mad Max is just another "legend/religious figure" that transcended into different cultures (example; Immortan Joe remained localized and his legend never reached a broader audience).
Also, the back story might change the further into the future (away from the apocalyptic event) that's why it isn't consistent throughout each film. I don't know, these are just my thoughts regarding the films. It makes sense to me.
I like that this explains how he doesn’t age and how fury road works in a different actor
@@joeygreen8091 but he does age
Fuel shortage? Thats what Australians call "a time to drive a supercharged V8!"
And fury road be like: lets burn half the fuel outside of the engine
Good video, you clearly did your homework! Nicely done.
I rented the first Mad Max from the video store when I was about 11 years old. I fell in love with these movies. Using the tracking feature on my vhs tape player so I could actually see the movie.
I really hope we get another one before George passes on. He’s so damn good
Nightmare Batman fury road was pretty sick
We won't. George is tied up in a legal battle with the studio that could drag on for ages. Even if that gets settled there may be too much love lost between them to settle their differences and make another movie.
George is claiming he is owed a bonus for coming in under budget. The studio claims because of optional re shoots it was over and are refusing to pay him.
I’d rather have another Babe movie.
Andru S ... Babe 2: Big Ham Sammich.
@@andruwxx What about Happy Feet 3
Graet explanation!! I am a huge fan of MadMax movies, and I was also thinking about timeline if the events, and connection between all movies! But, I tought that nuclear war happened after MM1, but now, when I saw these videos, I'm sure that war took place after MM2!
My TimeLine would be like this:
1973 - colapse of the social system, lack of oil...;
1983 - MFP established;
1984 - death if Jim Goose, also death of Max's family, when he quit job in MFP;
1984-1989 - five years he was wandering on the roads and living life completely alone;
1989 - Mad Mad 2 "The Road Warrior" takes place, just before Nuclear war;
1990 - Nuclear war happened;
1997/98/99 - captain Walker tried to escape with those kids from MM3 on the plane ang crashed into the desert;
2005 - Mad Max 3 takes place (about 15 years after MM2);
I'm re-watching the original trilogy atm. stated of with 1974's Stone, it really shows where the style of the original Mad Max is coming from.
stone is off track ol m8
@@johnwhorfin5150 some say the bike gang from MM are the Grave Diggers
@@IantheCripple Vigilantes,
Maybe Captain Walker flew out just as the nuclear war started and crashed when they ran out of fuel.
That's always been my thought.
na emp brought the plane down. emp from a nuke can travel for hundreds of miles. and back then electronics were not shielded from such things.
lord of the flies captain walker or ..lord of the flies lol.these days he woulda bin shreaded for copyrite lol
That was my impression that the war was breaking out and Captain Walker got the plane out and either an EMP or most likely the shockwaves from the blast that possibly hit Sydney caused the plane to crash.
It was ' a gang of turbulence'
Awesome video. This is a great in depth analysis of the backstory to the Mad Max films. As a huge fan of the franchise, I really appreciate it.
It was originally meant to be like Nightstalker by the sounds of it.
Such an amazing aesthetic.
The original Mad Max movie was an awesome Australian movie.
Minus dropbears
Absolutely right
This is really fun man!! Tbh I always took Mad Max more like "the man with no name" trilogy where it was a similar character with a similar background but not directly connected. Thanks for putting in the work to tie them all together for me
Great work dude!!! This answers a ton of questions I've always had about the lore and its great to to finally have a video to post when people ask any of the common questions.
The Mad Max story line to me has always been about what happens when social collapse takes place. Outstanding video by the way. One of the most worthwhile, thought out and professional time analogy of the series. Cheers!
No society is more than three meals away from a revolution.
This is cool and all but I wish Thunderdome ended up better of a movie than it really was...
George Ogilvie was a terrible choice in co-Director, he turned the movie into The Goonies.
United Artist went belly up and 20th Century Fox bought rights.
The first half on Thunderdome was sweet but as soon as Max gets banished that movie starts to get really bad lol
The kids RUINED Thunderdome,along with the PG-13 rating. They turned max into a clumsy,pratfalling Indiana Jones in that movie,totally blew a film that could have been as brutal and epic as MM2.
The music, and the story gave it a sense of mythological hope
Phoenix Pilot I get a Hook vibe more than anything but I can see Goonies as well. Maybe Hook came out after BT? Too lazy to look right now lol but still, when I watch it I think about Hook. Never never land, all that shit
Gas Crisis 2022: Exists
Me, loaded up with several lines of coke and a lever action rifle: WHAT A DAY, WHAT A LOVELY DAY!
There is a sign in Mad Max warning of radiation - always thought it was implicit the entire series was post-apocalyptic (nuclear war).
The added intro to mad max tells of a nuclear war that made all machines stop
Didn't Humungous look like his hair was falling out due to radiation
No cool3865 that was the lack of oil
There's a radiation warning sticker on the smoke detector in my hallway.
@olemissfan91 yes, yes it was.
Well done! Part one and two were worthy of a full doc film. Watching the history of the games. Fascinating!
Excellent work. There's something fun, here in France in the VHS cassette of the french version of the road warrior it was written that the movie takes place in the year 4000 ! Even when I was twelve I found it really dumb
soulclone6+
Thats sounds like an odd thing . Do you happen to know who wrote the story at th back of these cassettes
in the VHS-era in France ? In the 80s there was a lot of weird things going on regarding movies and videos.
Mad Max 2 was released as The Road Warrior basically as a stand alone movie in many countries. I assume whomever was responsible for the release in France wrote that to try to help sell it as a long abandoned civilization setting as many wouldn't have seen the first film.
+Buddha Mack
That does make sense to me. The first was not that widely screened among most of th intended target audience I guess.
If you look up the French buyable version here on TH-cam yuo will also see that it says that the story takes place in the year 4000 btw.
Really? XD
well done , but i would posit that ..........
1) mad max takes place in the very least in the LATE 80"s based on the weathering on the signs .
2) while the guy selling irradiated water does suggest a nuclear exchange , its possible that it was only a minor power using it . the appearance of "mushroom " clouds isnt limited to nukes , but also fuel air explosives that the major powers all have access too and would be MUCH more likely to use , and when used in mass WOULD be akin to an apocalypse .
3) life is hard , the adults left the kids in the crack in the earth because it was a place they knew was mostly safe and because they had to . the crack was big enough for a small tribe such as the kids , but when you add in adults ( who will eventually have MORE kids ) the food supply will not keep pace with the population . they couldnt take the kids WITH them through the desert , so they left them , and they had no intention of returning or else they would have left some of the weaker adults there .
In movie, Max confirms WW3 happened and that there were explosions, when he tries to explain it to children. The airplane for example was knocked out of sky because of a Nuke Explosion.
@Rata 4U Little kids saw a mushroom cloud, big explosions cause mushroom clouds.
I like the theory that Goose from the first movie became Lord Humungous in the Road Warrior as both were burned
@Mad Max Bible I loved both of
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High altitude nuclear detonation can act as emps, maybe the plane was mid air during a nuclear strike causing the electronics to fail and the plane to crash.
Humungus had hair fallout.
Jonathan Waddington I've not heard that one yet... Most people say he's burned, I believe that scence he was going to be Good from Mad Max 1.
Also ....steroids
Jimmy Page 2001 ... Say what????
I thought Humungus was Fifi.
His voice isnt the same even if his laryngeal muscles were burned.
"Were gonna give em back to the heros!"
For that matter how do we know the feral kid wasnt Maxes son miraculously survived the killing by Toecutter?
Not to draw un needed correlations.
I have to agree. This was a brilliant video. I’ve watched the Mad Max films multiple times over many years and after long breaks and I only recently started to think about the timeline and backstory. This was a satisfying explanation even if it’s not 100% official, the narrator gives enough links in the movies to make it accurate enough. I have to be honest, the dates which are mentioned, I never noticed and as I said I’ve watched the first three movies multiple times and Fury Road twice. Thanks for taking the time.
The EMP from a nuke could have been what brought the airliner down. It could happen even though the plane was out of range of the blast radius. Could also fry the navigation, which may be why they got lost.
Thank you! This video is stupendous!
This confirms a lot of what I had pieced together myself, but with great added touches like the little touches like the actual years or the fact the oil war was already ongoing (though I suppose it made sense, it was in the early-ish stages).
The original script for Mad Max 2 had a far better intro that would have spelled out the energy crisis causing modern society to stop far better than the recycled footage they ended up using, but oh well - at least it would have laid the whole 'post nuclear' thing to rest for good.
Watching this was kinda like enjoying these movies again for the first time. Cool.
As a fan who has seen every Mad Max film in the movie house on it's original run, I have to say that I never really wondered too much about the timeline or the back story. The first 2 movies MM1 & Road Warrior were pretty much pure action movies. Then Thunderdome expanded the Mad Max myth to the point of super hero status and it seemed like a natural end of the franchise.
Then comes Fury Road and a whole new sequence and reasoning has to be imagined to give that movie a reason for being, but no matter how we try to twist it, the film just doesn't stand with the other 3 and while entertaining it's really the odd man out that got made simply because there was financing available.
Thats what i thought to if it had a different name it would of been a good movie but comparing it to the mad max trilogy its not that good
Nah fury road was amazing
I invite you to watch Fury Road between Road Warrior and Thunderdome. It fits in that spot pretty good.
@@sorrenblitz805 woah, you have a good point there. I think im going to do this
I accept that people like fury road ,but for me there is only mad max 1 and 2 ,the rest are not for me
Great work,.... I started watching your video while I exercised and simply stopped and sat down to take it all in,.... I am huge fan of all of the films and you answered a great deal of my questions regarding the mythology of it all.... thanks again...
Awesome. Much love and thanks, appreciate the work you put in to making videos of such quality and direction.
I'm guessing your video was recommended to me as I recently started playing the 2015 Mad Max game for the first time. I've always been curious about the timeline, so I appreciate your efforts here!
199X? That's when the nuclear apocalypse happened in the Mad Max-esque series "Fist of the North Star". Haha.
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Wow. Top notch video. Well done. I grew up in the 1980's and with the threat of the Cold War and Thermonuclear Annihilation that could occur at any moment, you could say "Mad Max movies spoke to me". It was like a forewarning of a possible... or rather... likely... future. I still think it could easily happen. The veneer of society is very thin. Hurricane Katrina showed us this, along with the LA Riots and a city-wide power outage in my rather isolated home town of 130,000 people.
Thankyou for this, it explains a lot. I always thought in the timeline at least one nuke did hit Australia because in Mad Max 3 when Max first approaches Barter Town, he meets a guy selling irradiated water and says "whats a bit of fallout". So the water would have to come from somewhere close that is exposed to radiation, however I always assumed that a nuke hit between Mad Max 1 and Mad Max 2. I get that Max traveled to the wastelands because the cities where in chaos, but it might also make sense that he is getting away from irradiated areas. Also in Mad Max 1 there are all these news reports that you hear in the background talking about how they are losing contact with other countries, suggesting that other countries are already at war at that point in the timeline and that nukes maybe already have been involved. Then after the events of Mad Max 1 at least one nuke hits Australia. The kids from the plane crash in Mad Max 3 could have been told this story from their parents on why the world is why it is and that they are trying to get away from irradiated areas travelling inland. To me there is not enough evidence to determine why the plane crashed, it could have been anything from unforeseen weather conditions, to untrained pilot attempting to fly, to mechanical failure or even just couldn't find a place to land the plane safely until they literally ran out of fuel.
Speaking about the Waiting Ones, its very unlikely that any parent/adult would leave children unattended or protected, so my theory is this- because Barter Town is the closest civilization to the Crank in the Earth, I believe the adults of the Waiting Ones came across Barter Town (possibly while searching of the first party that went missing that most likely were taken by the quicksand that surrounds the the Crack in the Earth) and possibly even traded with Barter Town and even returned to the Crack in the Earth. Then after slavers in Barter Town heard there is a colony that is living out in the sand dunes, Barter Town sent their own to gather them up and the remaining adults gave themselves up to them so they wouldn't find the kids. There are 2 reasons for this theory, 1 it would explain why the last remaining adults would leave the kids behind unattended/protected by surrendering to them first, 2- the reason why the slavers went in search of the colony in the sand dunes in the first place may have been provoked by one of the adults that tried to procure a pig from the pig farm in Barter Town. The reason for this is the man that Max meets in the pig farm with "Pig Killer" scared on his chest tells Max the reason why he killed a pig was to feed the kids (as in possibly the Waiting Ones). Also when that man comes across one of the kids he laughs as if he knew where the kid came from and was happy they survived, also he is the only slave that joins Master, Max and the kids on the train when they escape from Barter Town, suggesting that the kids do know who he is. Its all just a theory but it would explain a lot, anyway thankyou for great video that explains the history of Mad Max
Great comment!
It is like you filled a gap in my puzzle of thought.
Thanks!
Also I always thought that Jedediah is in fact the gyrocaptain, when I saw the movie , and saw their interaction, felt that they were trying to remember if they know each other from somewhere...
I remember seeing photos of the cars they were building for Fury Road years before that movie was filmed.
I liked The Postman the most of all the Post Apoc films I've seen, and I think I've seen them all.
fuck head
The book is by far, better than the movie.
Road Warrior was the only sequel to be a direct follow up to a previous entry, that being the 1979 original.
Based on the police force sign the first Mad Max would have to take place later than 1984. Unless you are saying Max was only a cop for a year and the buliding is inly a year old?
The sign looks aged, Mad Max takes place far later than 1984.
I'm assuming that it's set in '86-'88 and the MFP is just undermanned, underfunded and overstretched with Max joining at the outset.
I thought the same thing. Sign looked like its supposed to be 5 or ten yrs old to me
It would only mean that it has to be after 1983/1984 since those are the dates written. I'd say I agree it could likely be at least 10 years. Just for the fact that Max isn't a kid. He has experience and it's obvious the Halls of Justice have seen better times. I'd say closer to early 90's. Enough time for justice to fail out in the border areas but still have civilized lifestyles in the towns closer to the larger cities.
Hall of Justice was that building. The building itself looks atleast 20 years old on the inside and outside. Not to mention (they state after the fall of society) So I believe the first movie is set in or after the 90's maybe 21st century the start. If we go by the sign of Est. in 1983
I rewatched the part of the sign's. They could have picked some sort of police base (old warehouse to function as the new location to work out) Main Force Patrol for the Lawless roads they have to patrol. So it's unclear if the policeforce has been around for long. I still would go by atleast in the 90's.
Excellent commentary. My buddies and me rode our bikes down rt. 11 from Dublin va to a drive in theater in Radford Virginia sat in the graveyard with a transistor radio and watched Mad Max when it came out. I miss being 14.
So in mad max it takes place in the mid 80s and during the oil crises in the Middle East that has reached most parts of the world including Australia.
Omar Haq mad max takes place in Australia not in the middle east
The " Oil Crises " didn't affect Australia, we were importing oil from countries in S. E. Asia that didn't restrict supply, that was mostly in the Middle East where Europe and the U.S.A.were getting oil from. Our delivery delays were from oil industry workers striking for higher wages. We heard about the " Oil Crises " in the news.
What was truly astounding was that most Americans blamed the oil companys when they were innocent participants. It was the supplying countries political changes and desire for a higher return that caused it.
Oil crisis was in the 70s.
@@DVincentW lol, a lesser known fact these fucking geniuses forgot. 😁
got recommended this by random earlier, never seen these films.
i guess i have another week to spare getting absolutely obsessed with a franchise out of nowhere.
Mad Max and Road Warrior, two of the best most intense disturbing and yet entertaining movies ever made. Lost its intensity and realism once Hollywood got hold of it.
@Convivial Cannibal Clan I agree....Thunderdome was a bit too imaginative for most people and perhaps it was a bit over the top.....I still thought it was good.....at least there's two of us :)
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Excellent work!
Max The Road Warrior you are my favorite character in all of fiction
Max The Road Warrior if ur Max is this guy right about the time?
As many times as I've seen the first 2, I never knew about the "Est. 1983" sign or that Papagallos was an oil co. CEO & that's how he knew where there the oil pump was that they settled on.
Awesome video!
Papagallo also took a book with him called "Teach Yourself Solar Energy". It's in the original script.
mad max 2 was the best overall, lots of action, lots of backstory, awesome characters, awesome vehicles and of course the v8 interceptor!
I love the first because it was the first one i saw as a kid, but it is abit tacky, the second film keeps most of the grit of the first while getting rid of the tackyness. Unfortunately for me atleast beyond thunderdome went a little too far with some of the silliness and then fury road to me was a bad imitation of what i think of as mad max.
Fury road
Thanks for putting this together, man. I’m a massive Mad Max fan so this was great.
Thanks for this enlightening timeline.
You're welcome!
Fun fact about mad Max 2 in the original script it was going to be revealed that Lord humongous was actually Max's cop friend goose from the first movie who had survived but was violently scarred and went insane this is also supposed to explain why lord humongous gang has police gear
That's just a myth, there's nothing like that in the original script
I feel like the caption "A few years from now..." makes the movie more timeless
Excellent. Mad Max 11 is in my all time favourite top ten. It's short, packed and has one of the best start, middle and end of any action movie. On a par with Terminator.
very insightful. .im a huge Mad Max fan and you have found information i didn't even know was out there. great job.
Now I want a Captain Walker prequel movie.
Well done!
Just watched the trilogy for the first time as a result of this video ( :
It has been rumored that Mad Max takes place in 2000...The Road Warrior 2003...Mad Max beyond Thunderdome 2018
Glow 25 “Fangoria” magazine eluded to “Thunderdome” was 15 years after the “Road Warrior”.
Just rewatched mad max 2 and it was freaking awesome. The ending scene where humungus dies is the one flaw but other then that, a truely great movie. And it inspired all the post apolyptic movies that came after that. Plus a thousand video games too like rage 2
Wow...enlightening and seems to be well researched. I really appreciated the explanations of some of the back stories that Miller created which we never really saw. I also have n even deeper appreciation for Miller's depiction of how quickly solid history falls to legends, then stories and into pure myth when civilizations fall. That's something directly relevant to historical research today as we see the remains of a global civilization that collapsed 11-12k years ago. Internet/electrical info to paper to wood and stone or just stories are steps that would happen a lot faster than we might think. On to part 2 lol.
Prevideo, my friends and I went to see Mad Max at the drive in theatre. 2.50$ a car load and could we load a car! It was our Star Wars and went a couple of nights. Thanks for all your hard work putting this together. 👍
There's a fan theory that Mad Max 2 and Thunderdome never really happened. Max had a psychotic break after the first one and the sequels are his nightmares. Not sure I agree but it's interesting.
I'm awake for MANY hours and I, really, NEED to get some sleep, but I can't! I HAVE TO WATCH PART 2!
Thank you!!!! The Road Warrior is one of my all time favorite movies but I’ve never cared for Mad Max. I may have a whole new appreciation now.
As for Thunderdome.......
Steve Dicus I saw the first film when I was a child and barely remember it. I’ve only seen fury road which is now one of my favorite films. I’ve never had such a powerful sensory experience. The cinematography was so raw and beautiful it evokes so much emotion. The music was used as a way to express each character and scene and a way to replace long dialogues and scripts. The costume,character, and prop/set designs were used to represent the world and be as symbols of the human consciousness. It’s truly George millers best work to date. He really pushed the boundaries of what storytelling in film and cinema can be.
Long duk dong I know right but to be fair I haven’t watched any of the other movies
This so great! Thank you for posting.
I know they say a "limited exchange" in the Northern Hemisphere would not affect Australia, but for nightmare fuel, and if you like the PA genre, read "On the Beach" by Neville Schute.
I watched the 2 part movie adaption with Armand Asante. I remember being it depressive as fuck.
I liked the original movie a lot.
Well cast, too.
Most depressing story ever written
Yeah it was a load of shit.
"The Road," was depressing.
What works so well is not having to explain the world and events in the movie through expositional dialogue or footage. It can get right to the action and convey everything it needs through the setting and feel of the movie. The audience can formulate their own ideas if they like but it's not a requirement to explain any of it.
Hurry and post part 2! Fantastic work!
New Mad Max Timeline Video is ready!
It will be up today! Be on the lookout for that!
So trolling is what brought us The Road Warrior.
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"This is testin' Walker!! You reckon we been slack!?"
"I dont know, maybe you been slack.."
I love when he punches the guy of the Lost Tribe , Waiting Ones, and the reaction was like they had never seen someone punch another person.
beyond thunder dome was definitely a commentary on lord of the flies. Just look at it from that perspective.
Wow, I had forgotten just how bad/pretentious Thunderdome was.
softdorothy it really was awful
softdorothy I still love it. It was the first Mad Max film I saw. Saw it in the movie theater and it knocked me out. It actually holds up really well and fits in with Max’s journey.
It could have been about anything. And they made a mad max movie with little driving, bad sci fi and 40 child performances. Its tonally inconsistent and slow but worst of all the character motivations make no fkn sense at all. No one has any reason for doing what they do at all, its almost interesting just for that.
I must say, I really loved the setting of the first movie the best. It felt like there was a functioning society, but something felt wrong, as if they were more or less clinging to what little order they had left, instead of it being flat out deserts and crazies everywhere. Still, I love the series. I just watched the first one the other day and loved the crap out of it. I wanna binge the full movie series. Also, I have a question, is the mad max game considered canon, and which timeline is it canon to?
There is a theory that the kids are sent to the crack in the earth from Bartertown and when they reach adulthood they leave like Captain walker and return to Bartertown.
14:00 When you said "let's do the math" my first thought was "how old does Finn look and when did Savannah get pregnant with him, and how old was she...?" revealing how the "rebuilding of society" happened at, you know, a pretty young age...
I think it's a good thing you didn't go into this.
Finn looked like 5 or 6, so she was.. 9 or 10?
Nice legs for sure but way too young to be bearing children.
@@Scottocaster6668 Mentally and ethically, yes, but biologically, it can be possible. There have been cases of fathers impregnating their 9 year old daughters, in at least one case the daughter actually carried out the pregnancy and the baby was born.
@@justuslm Oh, I Know it's possible, just the mindset of someone doing it to a little kid. 😠
Wow, nice research. I never would have known any of this without your video.
All I know is we are in mad max world right now-
Nice, thorough work. Thanks for taking the time to put this together!
thnx for the videos man awesome job of expanding on the mad max world for fans who didnt know this, cant wait till this comes up in conversation and someone be all like mad max is set after ww3 and i be all like ahum well actually my friend then proceed to educate them on the world of mad max as if i learnt it all from the movies
i like the fact that the past is so obscured, the survivors in the movie barely understand a world they left behind. it keeps with the canon of the film, everyone is thinking more about the present than the inconsequential result of the past
Fury road is one of my top 3 favorite movies of all time.
The fury road comic book also gives some background on the collapse of society
Any injury max sustains in one movie tends to show up in the next film ad well
Correct. Max's jacket in Fury Road has the exact same damage it sustained in previous 3 movies.
Mad Max Bible correct bit I was also referring to his knee and the scar on his eyebrow on Mel Gibson as well as Tom Hardy
This was really interesting! Thank you for the work you put in.