Just got back from a 32* overnight stay on the AT with mine..... it was my first night with it and it was awesome. I didn't get cold at all. Highly recommend.
have been wanting to try this out just bought a BA pad that is a little heavy, but my hips and shoulders weren't sore. Gonna have all Big Agnes gear here before too long.
Thank you for your candid review! I love the honesty. If you guys have time, I would be interested to see a breakdown of all your sleeping bags/quilts with the survival rating vs the comfort rating. That’s very useful for newer backpackers buying new gear. Thanks!
I've had the women's, down, 20 degree since it came out. I roast alive in that thing down to 25. Also, you can stuff just about any pillow in there if you work at it. I just switched to a big ol hikenture pillow and got it in there. Also, your hands can go under the pillow through the slits for the pillow but wear gloves because now your hands are within the mesh part. I actually unzip it except for the feet and use it as a quilt sometimes if it's warmer out.
I really want the Sidewinder SL! You guys have talked highly about it so I believe you that they are good lol! You need to do a video with Ed Bassmaster "would you just look at that" dude! Haha
Total side sleeper here. Being a small bird, I’ve only had minor issues with large sized mummy bags. But gone are the days where I could roll up my leather jacket as a pillow & sleep anywhere. I need a bit more comfort due to a damaged spine. So I’m always on the hunt for stuff that allows me to continue camping but be comfortable at night. The last thing I need is something too lumpy or getting too cold, that means no fun during the day for me. So I’m happy to be a little overly warm and feel comfy. Definitely thinking of giving this a go.
I have two Big Agnes sleeping bags and I always wake up covered in feathers. I am a side sleeper and do struggle with trying to find my way out of the bag in the morning after I have turned side to side all night, where does the zipper go?!!! Love the pillow hammock in my 0-degree, my 15-degree doesn't have one and I am chasing that thing all night. I also love the cell phone pouch because my battery seems to drain quickly in temps lower than 50. The temp ratings are definitely survival. I about froze to death on North Fork Mountain in my 15-degree bag when it got done in the low 20s/high teens. I always recommend adding about 15-20 degrees for a comfortable temp. I have been fine in my 15-degree down to low 30s. I will have to put this on my list for the next time I am ready to make a sleeping bag investment...Big Agnes isn't cheap! - Brandy D.
I’m 5ft 10.5in and 235lb… heavy and a side sleeper 90% of the time. Here in 2024 what are folks thoughts on the SL 30? I live in Southwest Australia and a 20 bag is overkill here. Use case is car camping or 1-2 night hikes. My feet and head tend to feel the cold the most. Any thoughts about the Big Agnes or any other bag to consider these days?
Thanks for the video! I need a compact bag for backpacking a thruhike (Trans-Catalina Trail) in mid-late June when lows will be in the upper 50's to low 60's. Will I absolutely roast in a 20 degree Sidewinder even if I keep it unzipped? I would get the 35 degree bag, but I would like to buy one with future 3-season hikes/camping in mind. Thank you.
I still don’t get the “quilts don’t work in the cold” thing so many people talk about. I’m 6’3 and have been up to 230 (under 200 now, just saying I’m a big guy) and a side sleeper 90%, stomach sleeper 10%. I’ve taken my 10F EE revelation long/wide down into the single digits. Lots of nights in the 20s. Never, ever a problem. First few cold nights I felt some drafts but learned to adjust my pad straps. I’ve also tried 20s with a 3.2 r-value pad plus a Z-lite, this is not a good idea (at least for me) if it gets much below about 35… so I carry the xtherm if there’s any chance of going below 40.
That style is known as a barrel bag and other companies make them too. I've never owned one and certainly not the BA so I can't say wether or not it's a better version of the style , maybe you could try a couple of other bags and do a comparison video , someone might have one you can borrow
I got this bag last year. It is comfortable for side sleeping but the temp variance is for real 30⁰ is about its warm limit. Still a good good sleeping bag for the price.
I bought the recycled synthetic insulation version of this bag. It is really comfortable and the nylon on the inside isn't rough with the skin, but I may have to re-sell it because turns out it is way too warm for where I live.
Where do you live? I think he said the down version runs even warmer. And how well does it compact compared to the down one he showed packed in the video?
I have a Zenbivy Light Bed and I absolutely love it! I feel like it hits all of the good things of the Sidewinder and fixes all of the negative things.
... have read and heard good things about the Zenbivy systems .... not yet invested yet ,, may this year .. Latest purchase in sleep system is Nemo Tensor Alpine ,, Best pad I've tried ...good insulation and pad thickness to win for a side sleeper ...
@@davepratt3912 Hey Dave -- I have the 25° and 10°. I've only tested them out in my tent backyard setup so far, but that was in 19° January weather (I live at the base of the Rockies), so it's given me a great idea of how they'll do. Performed very nicely. I'm a very cold sleeper, so after realizing the 25° probably won't be enough for Fall backpacking, I also purchased the 10° for those colder trips. I love how versatile they are, and the down is very high quality and light. I'm pretty stoked to take them out this backpacking season!
I love my BA Sidewinder 20.. same as reviewed in this video. I took it to the top of Mt Leconte and slept in it in the shelter down into the teens and was still warm and toasty. Granted, i was in layers with my Frogg Toggs rain jacket over the foot box. With any quilt or sleeping bag I purchase.. I buy with the mindset that the degree rating is rated at 10 degrees below the temp I will be comfy with it. but the Sidewinder surprised me a little. I usually use 20 and 40 degree quilts for most applications.. but for the months where it is consistently dropping below 32-35 degrees every night.. my Sidewinder comes out with me. I live in the Southeast, so will probably never have the chance to try it below the teens, but that would probably be stretching the Sidewinder's limitations. Just my useless 2cents worth.
I have this bag, and it’s a good product, but I do regret buying it. I knew the weight before purchase, but had no idea how HUGE it would be when packed.
Had high hopes for my side sleeper wife, however she is a very cold sleeper. We’re looking for a bag that can be comfortably used at 20 degrees. Since we’re in Europe, know of any big(ger) brands that have spacious bags that would fit the bill?
I didn’t understand what exactly makes this ‘innovative design’ good for side sleeping vs other wide bags especially when you don’t use the pillow pocket? If it’s the shape there are lots of bags which do that as well. I side sleep 100% of the time and love my western mountaineering Alpinlite. I would propose it’s hood design is innovative as well. Would have helped if you demonstrated how you fit in the bag and how the bag performed as you rolled from side to side which is the biggest issue. Why does this bag not get tangled vs others? In the end I’m glad that manufacturers are trying to innovative and that you have tested out this bag.
Looks like a cool bag but I just dropped almost $600 on on a UGQ 20. It’s baller AF! Wide long, 950 fill with max overstuff, insulated sewn foot box, printed fabric, draft collar. All the goodies.
Totally agree my sleeping pad kicks butt .Nemo tensor can't come close to the big A . I wish Thermarest made the ultra light pad in a wider or more rectangular shape it sleeps great just narrow . 👍
Sierra Design seems to always be the underdog in the outdoor equipment market. They are in fact make some Of the best innovative gear out there. I have their Meteor Lite 2 person tent and puffy jacket that have outlasted my other big box gear.
A truly good American company keeps American workers working. I bought a Sidewinder XL for $249.00, mistakenly thinking I was buying an American product. The Made In China label was not only a total disappointment, but the end of any purchases of Big Agnes products. Charging $249.00 for a sleeping bag while paying Chinese workers 50 cents an hour is nothing more than pure, unmitigated greed. Truly good outdoor American companies like Perception Kayaks build their products right here in the USA, pay their employees a living wage while creating high quality equipment and selling it at an affordable price. Any American company that chooses profit over people is not a good company.
Well, I hate sleeping on my back. As a kid I never could & while I can now, I find it uncomfortable. I'm bit so much a side sleeper as 1/4 side 1/4 belly. I also hate hoods and just prefer to flip a bag upside down and leave the hood open as a flap over my head. It's warmer too as you have no exposed skin. So, bags with less insulation on the back is a no, because their back is my front. What is with that anyway, makes no sense because the sleeping bag should move with you. It you roll to the side, the bag should roll with you. So the back of a bag is just not going to remain the underside all night long.
@@ghostape6481 Hey thanks for the weight....thats a big WOW for me. 10 degrees equals 22 ozs in my book and Ive never been chilly. My issue is what the heck is wrong with a quilt. It actually was innovative and was an advancement., and is lighter..I feel like this is more like the 8th absolutely necessary blade on the razor to FINALLY get a good shave. And its "feathers" are falling out and poking!....um thats not down and it shouldn't do that. and it should be a real 20 degree.....i have to say the brothers are more focused on what they are doing when they're unconscious than they are when they're awake. I don't understand.
Just got back from a 32* overnight stay on the AT with mine..... it was my first night with it and it was awesome. I didn't get cold at all. Highly recommend.
have been wanting to try this out just bought a BA pad that is a little heavy, but my hips and shoulders weren't sore. Gonna have all Big Agnes gear here before too long.
Thank you for your candid review! I love the honesty. If you guys have time, I would be interested to see a breakdown of all your sleeping bags/quilts with the survival rating vs the comfort rating. That’s very useful for newer backpackers buying new gear. Thanks!
I've had the women's, down, 20 degree since it came out. I roast alive in that thing down to 25. Also, you can stuff just about any pillow in there if you work at it. I just switched to a big ol hikenture pillow and got it in there. Also, your hands can go under the pillow through the slits for the pillow but wear gloves because now your hands are within the mesh part. I actually unzip it except for the feet and use it as a quilt sometimes if it's warmer out.
Side sleeper here. Nemo tensor pad solved a lot of my problems. This looks like good match up for colder weather in Ohio
Do you think it is too heavy for backpacking? Also how is it holding? I also noticed that it doesn't use down material?
I really want the Sidewinder SL! You guys have talked highly about it so I believe you that they are good lol! You need to do a video with Ed Bassmaster "would you just look at that" dude! Haha
Total side sleeper here. Being a small bird, I’ve only had minor issues with large sized mummy bags. But gone are the days where I could roll up my leather jacket as a pillow & sleep anywhere. I need a bit more comfort due to a damaged spine. So I’m always on the hunt for stuff that allows me to continue camping but be comfortable at night. The last thing I need is something too lumpy or getting too cold, that means no fun during the day for me. So I’m happy to be a little overly warm and feel comfy. Definitely thinking of giving this a go.
I have two Big Agnes sleeping bags and I always wake up covered in feathers. I am a side sleeper and do struggle with trying to find my way out of the bag in the morning after I have turned side to side all night, where does the zipper go?!!! Love the pillow hammock in my 0-degree, my 15-degree doesn't have one and I am chasing that thing all night. I also love the cell phone pouch because my battery seems to drain quickly in temps lower than 50. The temp ratings are definitely survival. I about froze to death on North Fork Mountain in my 15-degree bag when it got done in the low 20s/high teens. I always recommend adding about 15-20 degrees for a comfortable temp. I have been fine in my 15-degree down to low 30s. I will have to put this on my list for the next time I am ready to make a sleeping bag investment...Big Agnes isn't cheap! - Brandy D.
I’m 5ft 10.5in and 235lb… heavy and a side sleeper 90% of the time. Here in 2024 what are folks thoughts on the SL 30? I live in Southwest Australia and a 20 bag is overkill here. Use case is car camping or 1-2 night hikes. My feet and head tend to feel the cold the most. Any thoughts about the Big Agnes or any other bag to consider these days?
Thanks for the video! I need a compact bag for backpacking a thruhike (Trans-Catalina Trail) in mid-late June when lows will be in the upper 50's to low 60's. Will I absolutely roast in a 20 degree Sidewinder even if I keep it unzipped? I would get the 35 degree bag, but I would like to buy one with future 3-season hikes/camping in mind. Thank you.
Great review! Thanks man. Just picked one up on sale. Can't wait to try it in the spring
I still don’t get the “quilts don’t work in the cold” thing so many people talk about. I’m 6’3 and have been up to 230 (under 200 now, just saying I’m a big guy) and a side sleeper 90%, stomach sleeper 10%. I’ve taken my 10F EE revelation long/wide down into the single digits. Lots of nights in the 20s. Never, ever a problem. First few cold nights I felt some drafts but learned to adjust my pad straps. I’ve also tried 20s with a 3.2 r-value pad plus a Z-lite, this is not a good idea (at least for me) if it gets much below about 35… so I carry the xtherm if there’s any chance of going below 40.
6’3”, 220 lbs here and I’ll be trying a quilt this year for the first time. I got the Sea to Summit Cinder and so far it’s awesome!
That style is known as a barrel bag and other companies make them too. I've never owned one and certainly not the BA so I can't say wether or not it's a better version of the style , maybe you could try a couple of other bags and do a comparison video , someone might have one you can borrow
I want the pad and the bag to be integrated so I quit sliding off. I may get the zenbivy.
Definitely going to check this out! I’ve struggled to find my perfect sleeping bag. My pile of imperfect sleeping bags is impressive!
I got this bag last year. It is comfortable for side sleeping but the temp variance is for real 30⁰ is about its warm limit. Still a good good sleeping bag for the price.
I bought the recycled synthetic insulation version of this bag. It is really comfortable and the nylon on the inside isn't rough with the skin, but I may have to re-sell it because turns out it is way too warm for where I live.
Where do you live? I think he said the down version runs even warmer. And how well does it compact compared to the down one he showed packed in the video?
@@jblo76 I got the 20° synthetic version. It's incredibly warm but it doesn't compact nearly as much as the down version
I do like the sidewinder, try out the zenbivy sometime. Like to hear your thoughts on that.
I have a Zenbivy Light Bed and I absolutely love it! I feel like it hits all of the good things of the Sidewinder and fixes all of the negative things.
... have read and heard good things about the Zenbivy systems .... not yet invested yet ,, may this year .. Latest purchase in sleep system is Nemo Tensor Alpine ,, Best pad I've tried ...good insulation and pad thickness to win for a side sleeper ...
I agree. Have you used it in cold weather? Do you have 0 or 25°? Let me know how it performed? Thanks
Definitely gonna try the alpine
@@davepratt3912 Hey Dave -- I have the 25° and 10°. I've only tested them out in my tent backyard setup so far, but that was in 19° January weather (I live at the base of the Rockies), so it's given me a great idea of how they'll do. Performed very nicely. I'm a very cold sleeper, so after realizing the 25° probably won't be enough for Fall backpacking, I also purchased the 10° for those colder trips. I love how versatile they are, and the down is very high quality and light. I'm pretty stoked to take them out this backpacking season!
I love my BA Sidewinder 20.. same as reviewed in this video. I took it to the top of Mt Leconte and slept in it in the shelter down into the teens and was still warm and toasty. Granted, i was in layers with my Frogg Toggs rain jacket over the foot box. With any quilt or sleeping bag I purchase.. I buy with the mindset that the degree rating is rated at 10 degrees below the temp I will be comfy with it. but the Sidewinder surprised me a little. I usually use 20 and 40 degree quilts for most applications.. but for the months where it is consistently dropping below 32-35 degrees every night.. my Sidewinder comes out with me. I live in the Southeast, so will probably never have the chance to try it below the teens, but that would probably be stretching the Sidewinder's limitations. Just my useless 2cents worth.
You are the first person I've seen mention putting your frogg toggs jacket over your footbox. Same.
@@chrisschell90 little hack I learned from a couple of people
I have this bag, and it’s a good product, but I do regret buying it. I knew the weight before purchase, but had no idea how HUGE it would be when packed.
Had high hopes for my side sleeper wife, however she is a very cold sleeper. We’re looking for a bag that can be comfortably used at 20 degrees. Since we’re in Europe, know of any big(ger) brands that have spacious bags that would fit the bill?
I didn’t understand what exactly makes this ‘innovative design’ good for side sleeping vs other wide bags especially when you don’t use the pillow pocket? If it’s the shape there are lots of bags which do that as well. I side sleep 100% of the time and love my western mountaineering Alpinlite. I would propose it’s hood design is innovative as well. Would have helped if you demonstrated how you fit in the bag and how the bag performed as you rolled from side to side which is the biggest issue. Why does this bag not get tangled vs others? In the end I’m glad that manufacturers are trying to innovative and that you have tested out this bag.
Looks like a cool bag but I just dropped almost $600 on on a UGQ 20. It’s baller AF! Wide long, 950 fill with max overstuff, insulated sewn foot box, printed fabric, draft collar. All the goodies.
I like the orange zipper because you can see it in low light
im 5 11, 175 lbs and went with a 6 6 size, is this size good for me or should i go with the 6 ?
Super comfy! Just sheds lots of down. But, I still love
I have this bag and it’s a love of mine now
Totally agree my sleeping pad kicks butt .Nemo tensor can't come close to the big A . I wish Thermarest made the ultra light pad in a wider or more rectangular shape it sleeps great just narrow . 👍
Have either of you tried the Cloud 800 from Sierra Designs? I really like it as a side sleeper but if this is really the must have I’ll figure it out.
Sierra Design seems to always be the underdog in the outdoor equipment market. They are in fact make some
Of the best innovative gear out there. I have their Meteor Lite 2 person tent and puffy jacket that have outlasted my other big box gear.
Great review thank you
A truly good American company keeps American workers working. I bought a Sidewinder XL for $249.00, mistakenly thinking I was buying an American product. The Made In China label was not only a total disappointment, but the end of any purchases of Big Agnes products. Charging $249.00 for a sleeping bag while paying Chinese workers 50 cents an hour is nothing more than pure, unmitigated greed. Truly good outdoor American companies like Perception Kayaks build their products right here in the USA, pay their employees a living wage while creating high quality equipment and selling it at an affordable price. Any American company that chooses profit over people is not a good company.
A lot of the reason that people don’t get to the temperature ratings that the bag advertises is user error.
Well, I hate sleeping on my back. As a kid I never could & while I can now, I find it uncomfortable. I'm bit so much a side sleeper as 1/4 side 1/4 belly. I also hate hoods and just prefer to flip a bag upside down and leave the hood open as a flap over my head. It's warmer too as you have no exposed skin. So, bags with less insulation on the back is a no, because their back is my front. What is with that anyway, makes no sense because the sleeping bag should move with you. It you roll to the side, the bag should roll with you. So the back of a bag is just not going to remain the underside all night long.
Sounds like you should try a hoodless bag such as the FF Tanager or Nunatak Sastrugi. It’s what I use down to 0c/32f
wish they sold a zero degree!
More importantly than side sleeping, tell us about that whiskey!
2:50 Intro is waay to long
ya, you would review a sleeping bag 😤
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No no no no no. It must be heavy if you dont state the weight. I heard no pluses
The SL 20 weighs 2lbs 4oz. Not lightweight, but not terrible.
@@ghostape6481 Hey thanks for the weight....thats a big WOW for me. 10 degrees equals 22 ozs in my book and Ive never been chilly. My issue is what the heck is wrong with a quilt. It actually was innovative and was an advancement., and is lighter..I feel like this is more like the 8th absolutely necessary blade on the razor to FINALLY get a good shave.
And its "feathers" are falling out and poking!....um thats not down and it shouldn't do that. and it should be a real 20 degree.....i have to say the brothers are more focused on what they are doing when they're unconscious than they are when they're awake. I don't understand.