Well to fair the snap-on was having an off day, he had just got bad news from his Dr., his wife left him, AND his dog died in a freak Accident involving a fence, a treadmill, eight garden gnomes, and a party size bag of cheetos.
A lot of people feeling personally attacked because they currently owe Snap on enough money to go buy a new truck. It appears snap-on is letting QC slip, or has slipped idk. I never buy anything other than Harbor freight for the free replacements as im just a DIY guy
I find that somewhere in the middle on pricing and convenience is what I go with is it a specialty tool that I may only use once or twice a month? Then if so I’m getting it from the tool truck unless it’s over the top priced sometimes you just can’t beat the convenience of the truck being at the shop weekly but I own just about every single tool brand you can think of 😂 but all different tools. I’m not really a brand guy I’m a guy that likes tools and I collect them as well. 😂
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You can’t buy individual wrenches from harbor freight-only sets are sold
@HondaCrf450r. I'm not spending over 200 to 300 dollars on a set of wrenches when I can get an icon set half of that your paying for the name that's it facts in video f snap on and there prices.
@@dylanmcgrail7689why not buy the Milwaukee wrenches, which is what icon copied, instead of supporting a anti American pos like the owner of harber frieght
because theyve been coping their entire lives with overspending on tools giving themselves a heightened sense of self. their entire ego lives within their snapon tools
@@kevingalvan13 wow. That goes to show you I haven't been on the strap on truck in about 3 years maybe more. I worked with a guy, a tech. Not my favorite person but I didn't hate him. He bought a box for $14,000!!! It wasn't even that big! It was long and sure it was nice but $14k!??? It holds tools! That's all it does! Anyway. Long and short is he got fired, got his box repossessed and now his credit is shot. This is a story I have seen over and over again. Only thing different is the amount of money.
Mr. Subaru is a 🌰 sack licking Strap-On fanboy! There are good quality tools out on the market nowadays, that will get the job done like Strap'O-On tools, but at a fraction of the cost.
You'd think that after wrenches have existed for like a hundred years and all our manufacturing being outsourced to China for the last 50, they'd start to figure out how to improve things a bit.
I got mine a few weeks ago bought multiple sets of sae and metric wrenches plus 1/4 3/8 1/2 inch ratchets for a third of 1 set of snap on and I don't have a tool payment each week
I was working in Connecticut last week and stopped in for some torx bits i left at home and they had just fully stocked @homelee665 maybe you can get your order from them if you call
I’m thankful I’m just a driveway mechanic and can buy all the Icon or Hercules tools I want with no one bothering me. I have a friend who’s a lifelong mechanic who told me he would buy Icon but would get laughed at. Amazing how bad peer pressure is even as adults. All companies eventually get ruined by arrogance and complacency and snap on is no different. Also, this channel is one of the most trustworthy ones on TH-cam. This guy has been successful and built a great business. He’s made it and doesn’t need to kiss some brand’s ass to make friends or get respect.
The irony is that you buy Icon yet defend them and talk bad about the people who bought Snap On and defend them Disclaimer: I use my father's Craftsman from the 70s and Armstrongs I got from a liquidator 15 years ago.
If anything one should laugh at the Techs having to "Finance" their fancy $10k toolbox and $25k+ in Snap On Tools. No different then all the people with $100k+ car that can't afford or have the Credit to get a $300k Mortgage. They will certainly show off that stupid depreciating Car though and talk down on reasonable and reliable Honda/Toyota/etc
Why is he willing to get ripped off for tens of thousands of dollars because he's afraid of getting laughed at? That seems like a high level of sensitivity.
This guy is selling more tools than harbour freights entire marketing department. Tools are tools. Some are better at one thing, others are better at another. Your task is to fix a problem, who cares if your tools match or not. I’ve got hazet torque wrenches, craftsman ratchets and now thanks to this guy, icon wrenches.
I think each type of tool has a brand that makes something interesting to me. I think Wright wrenches are my personal grail I’m that category but I really like the Knipex engineering for pliers, etc.
The man’s wearing a snap on belt still and just being honest about the wrenches. I feel like he wanted the snap on to win just as much as any dude who spent the money on them. He’s just being truthful and not a total fan boy about one brand.
@@KnightOfZero117That comment just boggles the mind. Who's paying you more or less depending on what tool got the job done? As long as job was done, and done right, that's all that matters. I hate that kind of ridiculous mentality. That's the kind of BS that puts peer pressure on young or new techs to spend a fortune on tools, and getting into major debt, rather than just getting what they can afford at the time to get the job done.
@@BigBear--While it shouldn't matter, the reality is that it does. Appearing skilled and knowledgeable is often more important than actually being. Obviously what kinds of tools you use isn't gonna make up for not knowing how to do the job, but if two dudes are just about similarly skilled, the guy with the bigger collection of more expensive tools is gonna be given raises or promotions faster.
@@norge696 Moreover, try to get the used wrenches you bought on eBay warrantied. Thankfully I knew a kid with an active account with his dealer to say the items I needed exchanged were his.
Snap on is a very good tool but they are over priced. This is the second test I’ve seen him do and he is just as surprised as us. People that disagree with the test that snap-on created are proud of their tools but you have to be honest and except that the facts are the facts and it’s is not his fault the icon out performed the other wrench on this particular test.
the bigger issue is that snap on created a test so specific that it is difficult to replicate. if it takes all that to prove your tool is better then its not better
People are just mad they over paid for snap offs. When I was in trade school they had a deal with snap on to supply the school with all their tools and gave students a discount at graduation. I used them for about a year there and when I graduated ya know what I got? Pittsburgh and craftsman. There's better ways to get a rounded nut off than a $600 set of wrenches. But everything you said about there isn't a right and wrong way to turn these is absolutely true. That angle on it is so you can flip it in a small gap to get lined up on a nut.
@frivera735 snap on hand tools are made in 3 facilities. They are located in Wisconsin, Tennessee, and Alabama. The last time I checked, all of those places were in the USA.
Snap On makes great hand tools there's no argument there. The industry has caught up and now makes better more cost effective tools. Snap On has always been over priced but there were only limited options for the professional mechanic back in the day. Now the industry has many options at much different price points. Use what you can afford. Don't go into debit to keep up with the Jones's/co-workers. Let your workmanship speak for you.
@@elementn4107It’s manufactured in the United States(most of their tools). They have about 13 plants. I’ve been to the one in Tennessee that makes ratchets and the one in Wisconsin that makes sockets. You clearly don’t understand that they pay slave labor wages in Taiwan and cost of living wages in the United States. There are also differences in tempering of the metals. Even so no everything Snap On is the best, just certain tools.
@@spideybuildscars they are good and smooth but I own a BMW because Audis have to go in to “service position” for almost any job large or small. Service position is taking apart the whole from end down to the metal bumper. BMW have the same reliability but they are generally easier to work on. Mercedes seems to be the worst of both worlds
@@chuggalueroifan I have an 02 Allroad 2.7t. Honestly I haven't found service position to be that bad to do, but I also don't have the skid plate on so that probably helps a bit.
@@spideybuildscars The aftermarket parts support from FCPEuro and ECS Tuning is top notch and should be all you need to keep German cars, and your wallet in tip top shape. Case in point, really for all VAG group stuff, the dealer wanted 300+ for new seat foam, FCP had the exact OEM part for $50. With all the other parts I bought, free shipping too! Also, if you don't already have an OBDEleven diag tool, I suggest getting the VAG COM VCDS tool. Kind of pricey but its even more pricey not buying it early and catching stuff likewise.
“Buy American! Support American workers!” I’m an American and I’m trying to support MY family. I can get “lifetime warranty” tools for a fraction of the patriotic versions. More tools in my box and more food for my table. It’s a no brainer. Never come across a fastener I couldn’t remove.
I know snapon is good aswell as icon. But as a professional I will tell you, the wright grip 2.0 wrenches are unsurpassed in grip ability. I’d like for y’all to try them out, they’re fantastic.
The Subaru guy is good at finding good tool deals, but anytime you prove him wrong about something, he's all cope. He can't just admit he's wrong and learn; he decides to instead ingest large amounts of copium.
Yeah but we're watching the guy that's probably got $50,000 in debt of Snap-on tools😂 don't ever listen to anybody that buys s*** off the Snap-on truck they're all idiots🎉 my first boss told me if you see somebody go on the Snap-on truck he's an idiot 20 years later he has never been proved wrong
The combination wrench has an angled head for exactly that reason, it’s used both ways. In very tight confines you can get the fastener to move then turn the wrench over and move it fractionally.
I'm a hardcore Snap-on guy, have been for a very long time, but facts are facts, and honestly, who cares what brand a tech owns. I remember a co-worker saying this years ago, "The tools don't make the mechanic." That's absolutely true. Get what you want, what you can afford, and the tool that works...regardless of who makes it.
I used to turn wrenches for a living and I agree snap-on is insanely marked up for a lot of stuff. I always preferred my craftsman ratchets for some reason, and IMHO Mac was the best for a lot of tools. Funny enough, when I quit that profession the one set of tools I kept out of all my tool boxes was my full set of Flank Drive Plus combo wrenches. Tests be danged, those wrenches have done things for me I didn’t think possible. To each their own!
Let the haters bring it on! I have very few Snap-on tools and a ton of ICON tools. It doesn't matter to me if the ICON wins or loses because it's a damn good tool at 1/10 of the cost.
Lemme tell you a little story..... Had to rip the engine out of my motorcycle to fix an issue. Dealer wanted 5k. Not doing that. Got the work done but at some point it was time to tighten the stator rotor to 190 foot lbs. In order to do this you need a special kawasaki tool that costs 700 bucks. I did it with a rubber belt wrench tool from amazon for 18 bucks. Me and the dealer are both able to do the job. They have the 700 dollar tool, i have my 18 dollar tool. His works for him, mine works for me. Thats what is important here. Use what works for you. HOWEVER. And i do mean HOW, and EVER...... If someone shows you absolute proof that you can do the job for 18 dollars instead of 700 dollars, you would be a fool not to. If your Snap On wrenches are important to you and you are ok paying more, great. Just say that. The iphone crowd does it every day. They openly admit they pay more money for a lesser product because its a staus symbol. Thats ok. If you have to be a fool, best to be an HONEST fool.
As far as your iPhone analogy, you can spend just as much on an Android phone. My Android phone cost $1,350 and it's not the most expensive one you can get. Android phones are just offered from the cheapest lowest quality to the most high end and everything in between. A $1,200 iPhone and a $1,200 Android are roughly the same overall quality, you might get slightly more bang for the buck with Android but not much. Apple just doesn't make anything of really low quality and fit and finish and they are the only company making that platform. There are many companies that make Android phones. There is a real significant difference in quality between a cheap phone and an expensive one. The screen quality, the processor, battery, camera and body of the phones are where are the differences lie.
I’m 60 years old and have been working on cars and Farm equipment since I was seven years old. I went straight to Mercedes-Benz and Volvo out of high school in 83. I have used all brands of tools. Snap On has served me well in my business of 34 years now, working on European cars. I know they cost more, but they feel better in your hand when you’re pulling on them all day, and they work. When I get on the Snap On truck and something broke, my Snap On dealer doesn’t ask me anything he either reaches and grabs me a new one and we exchange tools no questions ask or he orders me one.I keep a small balance on the truck to make sure he comes by each week in case I have something broken. Everybody has their preferences not bad mouthing any other brand. I’ve just enjoyed a career with Snap On. Cheers to all you gearheads.
I've been in the trade over 20 years. The majority of what I own are Mac tools, but I do have some snap on and harbor freight. In this day and age I am always surprised at the cost and quality of good tools. The Harbor Freight Daytona jack is killer for the price and a 2 year warranty.
Pretty sure that’s the one snap on sued them over no? Snap on didn’t have an exclusivity deal with the outsourced producer and harbour freight swooped in and it’s the exact same jack. I could be wrong but pretty sure that’s the deal. I’m in Canada and wanna make a run down just for that jack lol
If you're talking about the 3-Ton Daytona Low Profile Super Duty. Yeah...snap ons FJ300 is the identical jack, except the Daytona is $289 (Full price, can get down to $209 or less on sale), meanwhile the Snap-On is $1,030. Even if price wasn't a consideration I like the smoother lines, color options, and less sharp edges of the Daytona.
I picked up the 3 ton low profile pittsburgh racing jack on that flash sale for 150 bucks. Very happy with it. (Idc what they say though, that thing ain't light. It is still a beast to lug around)
@@psubondNo one ever said that Jack was "lightweight". Just lighter, than comparable 3-Ton steel jacks. That Jack weighs 63.3 Lbs, vs something like the Daytona 3-ton Low Profile Super Duty at 104 lbs, or the low-profile long-reach at like 103 lbs. If you wanted something truly lightweight should have gotten the Daytona 1.5 Ultra Low Profile Lightweight Aluminum Racing Jack at 36lbs. Or the Daytona 2-Ton Professional Racing Series Aluminum Jack at 42.7 lbs. You sacrifice a little maximum lift height, but get a much lighter jack with those options, if it's something you wanted to be able to thrown around and transport more easily. Instead you got a full size standard size garage jack that's still 40lbs lighter...so not sure what you were expecting. No where in the marketing material, or the name, for that 3-Ton Pittsburgh Aluminum Jack, do they mention that the Jack itself is "lightweight". Only that it's constructed from lightweight Aluminum, meaning it's a lighter material than steel. Just sayin...
th-cam.com/video/IAo2p3FjUxQ/w-d-xo.htmlsi=1aeglYPQe19CEXRW here is proof they are better, but if its worth the extra money is up to the buyer. Most common folk probably not. I have to go warranty 3 different icon tools today before they close, and I have only had them 8 months.....
@kevinragsdale6256 yep, people just blindly taking this video as gospel. They have never used a snap on wrench. They grip so good they'll round the metal hex (meaning the jaws won't spread on u). U just can't be an idiot and know when to use heat...
I appreciate the integrity of you guys!!! And so should snap on!!! You didn’t take anything away from snap on, both tools performed as advertised. Someone had to lose.
Thorough demonstration. I appreciate it! I own lots of Snap-On tools, but always like to see what cheaper options are out there. I don’t have access to my tools when I’m not at work, (even though I have over 30k invested) so need a 2nd set of basic tools.
Icon is the Snap-on of Harbor Freight! I just started buying them. Icon Tools will be the most expensive tools once you walk into Harbor Freight but money well spent!
I always hear from Snap-on fans that the price difference is in the steel. However, in the videos I have seen the Rockwell hardness test results are near identical and so is the weight. No tool manufactures reveal their alloy blend or heat treating process so you are expected to take them at their word, which is ridiculous. Maybe someone will post an alloy analysis soon.
No…No…Nooo…This just in from Larry L.Goober (Lubber Goober).First you you have to hold the wrenches sideways and upside down with slight vertical angle about 13 degrees to south northern pole, then with twist of right wrist and left wrist at 42 1/2 degree variation , push/pull!Then and only then will you have your winner!Thats how Larry L. Goober does it!
This is becoming pure comedy! And I love it, except when I think on the big picture- China is beating us for 1/10th of the Price. With a no back story warranty. That SHOULD worry every American., all the best guys! 👍
Harbor Freight opened here about two 2yrs ago, and they always have what you need. We have one SnapOn tool truck, and he lives 2 counties over he's busy, but with 4 counties, he stays busy, but you are only gonna see him once a month. And HF has all the other things that SnapOn doesn't have.
I love this video it shows that you don't always have to spend all your money to get into this line of work. Now that said sometimes you do have to pay. But if I buy something cheap and it works a few times and then breaks it still made me my money
Snap on used to be great, quality tools. The problem was, the cheap tools were exactly that. Cheap quality. Now, cheaper tools are much better quality than they used to be. When i started working at the dealership at 19, im 39 now, i went crazy on the snap on truck 🤣. But, i knew the tools i were getting were going to hold up to the everyday demanding use better than anything i could buy at the local store. But after about 7 years, tools from the "cheaper" brands were becoming better and better. They eventually got to the point that spending $600 for a tool set from snap on didnt mean better quality anymore. It was just a huge mark up because of a name. Snap on has fallen off the last 5 years. I was a big snap on guy. Anyone who wrenches daily knows they are not what they used to be. The ones screaming everyone is wrong is in denial because Snap On had made a fortune off of them and no one wants to look like a fool. Stop giving snap on your hard earned money and be mad at them for making crap products!
I been an industrial mechanic for about 10 years and i can honestly tell you. if youve done a mechanics job long enough you know it doesn't matter what tools you use ive seen ppl use very expensive tools the wrong way and ive used my husky, my pittsburg my gearwrench wrenches for whatever i needed and i lve always gotten thw job done i dont care what the brand is ive gone to do jobs with other ppls tools and ive got it done. Once you get to a certain level of experience you can get it done of course you prefer your tools because you know what ya got and where you can make your tools fit. I have a plethora of brands in all of my toolboxes and i use em all on a regular basis
Nobody is turning plastic nuts to failure. Torque test channel just put out a great video showing the snap on to be marginally better, but not enough to justify the cost difference. The flank drive system is a smidge better on all harness fasteners, but the price is absurd.
Exactly. Same here. Allso had my own fleet of trucks. Internationals. Peterbilts and western stars. In 40 years never had to take or slacken a bolt like this test ever!!!!!!. And im a 100% snap on owner. This is one of those bullshit tests that might happen in a blue moon in a veey rare circumstance You tube Crap.
Your test is legit in my opinion. Only bone I pick is they are called Combination wrenches because one end is Open Ended while other end is enclosed or Boxed. Yes, the Open End can be turned in either direction with the same grip, bite, etc
I don’t think you were using exactly 25.7 psi on each side while holding the nylon at 47 degrees towards you while the ambient temperature outside is 78. I call this a sham lol. Great video, I’m it a pro so even kobalt wrenches do my oil change just fine
True if you think you can't flip a combo wrench any orientation and it not grab. User error. There's plenty of times when the "correct " way doesn't work and flip it 180 and it grabs.
Love this demonstration. Snap-On guys are all up in arms, you guys are not the only ones to call this out. It's all over youtube. God Bless my friend have a good one Haters are going to hate, life to short to worry about that.. Thumbs up!
The wrench that is holding versus the one that is applying pressure that where the magic happens. In the video it appeared to me that the snap on wrench was always the wrench holding and the gearwrench was always the one applying the pressure therefore it was the one that twisted around the nylon nut. Whatever wrench is applying the pressure i would imagine will always let go on a nylon nut. Or at least that's what I've seen every time the test was done no matter the wrench that's applying the turning force it will be the one to round off the nut.
For some mechanics starting out, like a tech school kid, Icon is the only brand they can afford at the time. $$$ brand wrench won’t make you a great mechanic. But I know people love their brands.
I want the wrench that holds best regardless of direction. You didnt do it wrong, it should work in any direction with any size. I can't even remember the last time i used a 1/2 wrench. 12mm? yea, 10mm? of course 14mm? all the time. Also, rthe deg offset is so you can flip and use it in tight spaces. Love the channel.
I had to frame an addition on my house. I needed a framing nail gun. I bought one at Harbor freight for around 110.00. A DeWalt was around 500.00. Had Harbor Freight replacement warrantee. So I could replace it 5 times before I'd be paying as much as. DeWalt. Still have Harbor Freight gun and it works fine after 10 years. Also have a compound slide 12" saw I paid 130.00 at HB, works great after 10 years
Combination wrenches do have a less likely direction in not rounding a bolt/nut. In this case it probably doesn't matter since its not tight enough to show that but there 100% is a direction on a combination wrench.
Well to be fair the moon, sun and the stars must be aligned correctly . Then and only then the snap-on wrench might have a chance. 😂😂😂😂 To be fair to snap-on this was an old test i remember it like 20-30 years ago when snap-on was the only company that was offering any improvement on the open end side of combination wrenches, now you see it everywhere. 😊
It does matter what way a combination wrench faces. The 15° offset is for access. A adjustable wrench it matters what way you turn. To my understanding.
The second part of the test snapon doesn’t slip. The harbor freight is the one that slips In your video. The nut stays with the HF because if slipped bad like the snapon did at first. Play it back. I purchased a harbor freight set and tried it on 15mm grade 8 bolt and the HF teeth ripped off and the chrome was damaged. This test snap-on came up with is stupid and gimmicky unless the car you’re working on is full of nylon nuts and bolts. I like the fact that there’s a cheaper alternative but it does fail sooner than the snap-on in my test on real bolts. My worn daily used older flank drive plus snapon slips sooner than the harbor freight but a brand new snapon beats the brand new HF. Unfortunately the HF fails mechanically when it slips.
I'll still buy snap on or mac over icon. I don't tighten nylon nuts all day I tighten metal fasteners. I've never had any issues with my mac or snap on wrenches slipping. And I think torque test channel did a test on different wrenches and I'm pretty sure snap on and mac rated higher than icon.
May or may not matter but I noticed something on the snap-on video from 6 years ago. The dealer is pushing his thumb against the nylon nut next to the snap-on wrench. He did it both times.
My ICON tool box set-up with hutch and locker was $4300 with all the discounts. It weighs within 4 lbs. of a snap-on. The snap-on equivalent was $28,000. It came on a truck too delivered to my home. No payment plan, but if I wanted to it would be zero percent interest.
I currently work on big rigs for living (having used both Icon and Snap-on); and I can honestly say I've had more issues removing bolts with Snap-on wrenches than I have with Icon wrenches.
Snap-on lost its way. Just like Craftsman, you go cheaper on making items and the outcome is what you get. Its like Nike running shoes at 149.00 vs Brooks at 49.99. I'll take Brooks any day of the week.
I’ve had icon since they came out and zero issues. Idc if snap on is better or not I’ve legit had no issues no rounded bolts nothing. Only some snap on tools are worth it.
Everybody you're pissed off because they spent years turning snap on tools thinking they had the best tools spending their money on what they thought were the best tools and now the icon is coming to the stage with superior holding power, and guys feel like they've wasted their money and their time on snap-on. They don't want to admit that they spent their money on garbage.
"The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is. He confuses it with feeling." ~Thomas Sowell
I remember torque test channel checking various manufactures open ends, as I recall he found that most taiwan made wrenches have the same dimension on their 13mm as their 1/2” maybe Mr subaru is right about the test being messed up by using 13mm. Either way it’s interesting, I think it’s good to call out snap on when it’s needed. Their QC department has been slacking for years
Right, notice the jaws "teeth" are the same (amount an pattern) on each jaw and on each brand , thus, they are Not directional! Well done Royalty. However, I did check my Mac/Facom/USAG and that open end has a different pattern and shape on each jaw.
Yeah, but the lighting and humidity weren't right for the Snapon
The test also needed to be done when the Moon was full.
@@Blackwarrior2003😂
Lol
Torque Test Channel on yootoob settled this today
Well to fair the snap-on was having an off day, he had just got bad news from his Dr., his wife left him, AND his dog died in a freak Accident involving a fence, a treadmill, eight garden gnomes, and a party size bag of cheetos.
A lot of people feeling personally attacked because they currently owe Snap on enough money to go buy a new truck. It appears snap-on is letting QC slip, or has slipped idk. I never buy anything other than Harbor freight for the free replacements as im just a DIY guy
And that’s why 😂 you’re a diy guy these tools are not made for industrial use.
I find that somewhere in the middle on pricing and convenience is what I go with is it a specialty tool that I may only use once or twice a month? Then if so I’m getting it from the tool truck unless it’s over the top priced sometimes you just can’t beat the convenience of the truck being at the shop weekly but I own just about every single tool brand you can think of 😂 but all different tools. I’m not really a brand guy I’m a guy that likes tools and I collect them as well. 😂
You can’t buy individual wrenches from harbor freight-only sets are sold
Harbor freight is plenty for the diy. These other guys are defending their overpriced choice because they paid so much.
A set of icon wrenches is a great value proposition for most people.
Don't be sorry you showed an Icon beating a Snap-on, you just saved me a ton of money!
@@HondaCrf450r.😭
@HondaCrf450r. I'm not spending over 200 to 300 dollars on a set of wrenches when I can get an icon set half of that your paying for the name that's it facts in video f snap on and there prices.
@dylanmcgrail7689 He's used to spending money. (Honda) lol even if it runs right they can never leave their Honda alone😂
@@dylanmcgrail7689why not buy the Milwaukee wrenches, which is what icon copied, instead of supporting a anti American pos like the owner of harber frieght
snap on is better in real torque and hardness testing, but if its worth the exorbitant amount of money is up to the buyer.
I don’t know how any of u are against this dude he’s seems like such a genuine likable guy just trying to figure stuff out
Because they don't trust their lying eyes😂
because theyve been coping their entire lives with overspending on tools giving themselves a heightened sense of self. their entire ego lives within their snapon tools
Gay cringe
@@bpkg1308these are the same people that will see a man and call him a woman and be ok with him following little girls in the restroom 🤣
Icon destroyed the snap on truck mangina
All the people that are pissed can no longer justify the $380 they spent on stupid ass wrenches😂. Great job man.
Them Snappys are closer to 600 for the set.
Was gunna say not downing your comment, but a 13 piece set is like 670 if I remember correctly. Thats insane!!
@@kevingalvan13 wow. That goes to show you I haven't been on the strap on truck in about 3 years maybe more. I worked with a guy, a tech. Not my favorite person but I didn't hate him. He bought a box for $14,000!!! It wasn't even that big! It was long and sure it was nice but $14k!??? It holds tools! That's all it does! Anyway. Long and short is he got fired, got his box repossessed and now his credit is shot. This is a story I have seen over and over again. Only thing different is the amount of money.
Mr. Subaru is a 🌰 sack licking Strap-On fanboy! There are good quality tools out on the market nowadays, that will get the job done like Strap'O-On tools, but at a fraction of the cost.
You'd think that after wrenches have existed for like a hundred years and all our manufacturing being outsourced to China for the last 50, they'd start to figure out how to improve things a bit.
Overpaying for wrenches seems to be the reason people are truly mad 😂
The biggest problem with this is that every Harbor Freight is now sold out of these Icon wrenches.
I hear ya, but I doubt they’re gonna be gone because they’re still expensive as well
My local stores were sold out, and I saw at least two videos of other stores that were, too.
I got mine a few weeks ago bought multiple sets of sae and metric wrenches plus 1/4 3/8 1/2 inch ratchets for a third of 1 set of snap on and I don't have a tool payment each week
I was working in Connecticut last week and stopped in for some torx bits i left at home and they had just fully stocked @homelee665 maybe you can get your order from them if you call
@@operator8470 They are not expensive when comparing them to Snap-Off, MAC, Matco, etc. They are a great price for the quality of the tool...
The reality that they've been gotten by marketing for ever is setting in...I'll take the $120 wrenches over the $1000 wrenches all day. 😅
I’m thankful I’m just a driveway mechanic and can buy all the Icon or Hercules tools I want with no one bothering me. I have a friend who’s a lifelong mechanic who told me he would buy Icon but would get laughed at. Amazing how bad peer pressure is even as adults. All companies eventually get ruined by arrogance and complacency and snap on is no different. Also, this channel is one of the most trustworthy ones on TH-cam. This guy has been successful and built a great business. He’s made it and doesn’t need to kiss some brand’s ass to make friends or get respect.
1000%
The irony is that you buy Icon yet defend them and talk bad about the people who bought Snap On and defend them
Disclaimer: I use my father's Craftsman from the 70s and Armstrongs I got from a liquidator 15 years ago.
If anything one should laugh at the Techs having to "Finance" their fancy $10k toolbox and $25k+ in Snap On Tools. No different then all the people with $100k+ car that can't afford or have the Credit to get a $300k Mortgage.
They will certainly show off that stupid depreciating Car though and talk down on reasonable and reliable Honda/Toyota/etc
I just laugh at them back in garage because they are in debt for the next 5 years while I’m debt free. I even have Dewalt tools in my set.
Why is he willing to get ripped off for tens of thousands of dollars because he's afraid of getting laughed at? That seems like a high level of sensitivity.
This guy is selling more tools than harbour freights entire marketing department.
Tools are tools. Some are better at one thing, others are better at another. Your task is to fix a problem, who cares if your tools match or not.
I’ve got hazet torque wrenches, craftsman ratchets and now thanks to this guy, icon wrenches.
I think each type of tool has a brand that makes something interesting to me. I think Wright wrenches are my personal grail I’m that category but I really like the Knipex engineering for pliers, etc.
The man’s wearing a snap on belt still and just being honest about the wrenches. I feel like he wanted the snap on to win just as much as any dude who spent the money on them. He’s just being truthful and not a total fan boy about one brand.
That is what I was thinking too..
Like one of my mentors said "the costumers dont care if you got snap on or Pittsburgh they want the job done right"
Don't expect snap on wages using Pittsburgh tools tho
You mean you get to keep less cause you spent your money on Snap-On, meanwhile the Pittsburg guy is laughing, on the way to the bank. 🤣
@@BigBear-- gotta pay Uncle Sam and Snap On before you get your take home pay
@@KnightOfZero117That comment just boggles the mind. Who's paying you more or less depending on what tool got the job done? As long as job was done, and done right, that's all that matters. I hate that kind of ridiculous mentality. That's the kind of BS that puts peer pressure on young or new techs to spend a fortune on tools, and getting into major debt, rather than just getting what they can afford at the time to get the job done.
@@BigBear--While it shouldn't matter, the reality is that it does. Appearing skilled and knowledgeable is often more important than actually being. Obviously what kinds of tools you use isn't gonna make up for not knowing how to do the job, but if two dudes are just about similarly skilled, the guy with the bigger collection of more expensive tools is gonna be given raises or promotions faster.
My guy, when one product cost 10X the other, it’s not apples to apples comparison. Hold that big fat L Snap On.
@@norge696 Moreover, try to get the used wrenches you bought on eBay warrantied. Thankfully I knew a kid with an active account with his dealer to say the items I needed exchanged were his.
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Snap on is a very good tool but they are over priced. This is the second test I’ve seen him do and he is just as surprised as us. People that disagree with the test that snap-on created are proud of their tools but you have to be honest and except that the facts are the facts and it’s is not his fault the icon out performed the other wrench on this particular test.
It is his fault, you don’t use a snap on wrench once, it’s the a used wrench vs new one
@@Tombstone-b6idid you have a seizure
@@Tombstone-b6ibozo
He even spelled his own name wrong.
@@jaezae5947
the bigger issue is that snap on created a test so specific that it is difficult to replicate. if it takes all that to prove your tool is better then its not better
People are just mad they over paid for snap offs. When I was in trade school they had a deal with snap on to supply the school with all their tools and gave students a discount at graduation. I used them for about a year there and when I graduated ya know what I got? Pittsburgh and craftsman. There's better ways to get a rounded nut off than a $600 set of wrenches. But everything you said about there isn't a right and wrong way to turn these is absolutely true. That angle on it is so you can flip it in a small gap to get lined up on a nut.
I’m not… I’m glad my money stayed in America and never went to Taiwan or China.
Well said. Saved me from typing. 🫡
@@2strokemigz snap on aren’t made in America hahaha
@frivera735 snap on hand tools are made in 3 facilities. They are located in Wisconsin, Tennessee, and Alabama. The last time I checked, all of those places were in the USA.
@@2strokemigz You're glad your money stayed in America and went to what? Might as well have saved that money and handed it to your kids.
So you are telling me that my 4-way wrenches are truly 4-way and not just 2-way? Mind blown! 🤯
If you like that try right angle wrenches.
Like a girl in college 😊
Snap On makes great hand tools there's no argument there. The industry has caught up and now makes better more cost effective tools. Snap On has always been over priced but there were only limited options for the professional mechanic back in the day. Now the industry has many options at much different price points. Use what you can afford. Don't go into debit to keep up with the Jones's/co-workers. Let your workmanship speak for you.
Snap on is just the brand that makes it expensive just like apple
@@elementn4107It’s manufactured in the United States(most of their tools). They have about 13 plants. I’ve been to the one in Tennessee that makes ratchets and the one in Wisconsin that makes sockets. You clearly don’t understand that they pay slave labor wages in Taiwan and cost of living wages in the United States. There are also differences in tempering of the metals. Even so no everything Snap On is the best, just certain tools.
People will say: you dropped it and snap-on got weaker 😂
Im a technician for Audi and I switch over to the superior icon wrenches
Can I ask how you like working for Audi? I recently got into German cars, and Audi seems to be one of the best of them
@@spideybuildscars they are good and smooth but I own a BMW because Audis have to go in to “service position” for almost any job large or small. Service position is taking apart the whole from end down to the metal bumper. BMW have the same reliability but they are generally easier to work on. Mercedes seems to be the worst of both worlds
@@chuggalueroifan I have an 02 Allroad 2.7t. Honestly I haven't found service position to be that bad to do, but I also don't have the skid plate on so that probably helps a bit.
@@spideybuildscars The aftermarket parts support from FCPEuro and ECS Tuning is top notch and should be all you need to keep German cars, and your wallet in tip top shape. Case in point, really for all VAG group stuff, the dealer wanted 300+ for new seat foam, FCP had the exact OEM part for $50. With all the other parts I bought, free shipping too! Also, if you don't already have an OBDEleven diag tool, I suggest getting the VAG COM VCDS tool. Kind of pricey but its even more pricey not buying it early and catching stuff likewise.
Torque Test Channel on yootoob settled this today. Craftsman has entered the chat. LOL
“Buy American! Support American workers!”
I’m an American and I’m trying to support MY family. I can get “lifetime warranty” tools for a fraction of the patriotic versions. More tools in my box and more food for my table. It’s a no brainer.
Never come across a fastener I couldn’t remove.
Snap on is not made here anymore that's the cold hard true bud
American companies stopped caring a long time ago. Most aren’t even really American anymore. They don’t care us, why should I care about them?
@@jameshall5314clearly have no idea what you're talking about
@@jameshall5314most Snap On hard line hand tools are USA made
@@RougeDeBlahhe's probably thinking about craftsman🤦🏻♂️
Its easier to fool people, than it is to convince them they've been fooled
Mark Twain?
@@JohnQuePublic903 I think you're right
I know snapon is good aswell as icon. But as a professional I will tell you, the wright grip 2.0 wrenches are unsurpassed in grip ability. I’d like for y’all to try them out, they’re fantastic.
That's right a few years ago at #clientgraphics did a video showing the best wrench and wright grip did amazing on the video......👍🇺🇲👍
Yeah Wright makes great tools. Also USA made, but at least at a 1/3 the price of Snap-On.
The Subaru guy is good at finding good tool deals, but anytime you prove him wrong about something, he's all cope. He can't just admit he's wrong and learn; he decides to instead ingest large amounts of copium.
Yeah but we're watching the guy that's probably got $50,000 in debt of Snap-on tools😂 don't ever listen to anybody that buys s*** off the Snap-on truck they're all idiots🎉 my first boss told me if you see somebody go on the Snap-on truck he's an idiot 20 years later he has never been proved wrong
@@JacobsNews u sound ignorant. One size fits all! Follower.
Gotta be honest - I don’t care. Snap-on could take the bolt off, light my cigarette and go pick up lunch and I’m not paying that price tag for it.
The combination wrench has an angled head for exactly that reason, it’s used both ways. In very tight confines you can get the fastener to move then turn the wrench over and move it fractionally.
I'm a hardcore Snap-on guy, have been for a very long time, but facts are facts, and honestly, who cares what brand a tech owns. I remember a co-worker saying this years ago, "The tools don't make the mechanic." That's absolutely true. Get what you want, what you can afford, and the tool that works...regardless of who makes it.
Torque Test Channel on yootoob settled this today
I used to turn wrenches for a living and I agree snap-on is insanely marked up for a lot of stuff. I always preferred my craftsman ratchets for some reason, and IMHO Mac was the best for a lot of tools. Funny enough, when I quit that profession the one set of tools I kept out of all my tool boxes was my full set of Flank Drive Plus combo wrenches. Tests be danged, those wrenches have done things for me I didn’t think possible. To each their own!
Let the haters bring it on! I have very few Snap-on tools and a ton of ICON tools. It doesn't matter to me if the ICON wins or loses because it's a damn good tool at 1/10 of the cost.
Lemme tell you a little story.....
Had to rip the engine out of my motorcycle to fix an issue. Dealer wanted 5k. Not doing that.
Got the work done but at some point it was time to tighten the stator rotor to 190 foot lbs. In order to do this you need a special kawasaki tool that costs 700 bucks.
I did it with a rubber belt wrench tool from amazon for 18 bucks.
Me and the dealer are both able to do the job. They have the 700 dollar tool, i have my 18 dollar tool. His works for him, mine works for me.
Thats what is important here. Use what works for you.
HOWEVER. And i do mean HOW, and EVER......
If someone shows you absolute proof that you can do the job for 18 dollars instead of 700 dollars, you would be a fool not to.
If your Snap On wrenches are important to you and you are ok paying more, great. Just say that. The iphone crowd does it every day. They openly admit they pay more money for a lesser product because its a staus symbol.
Thats ok.
If you have to be a fool, best to be an HONEST fool.
You are ignorant to say the iPhone is a lesser product. The ecosystem is better than any other phone brand will ever provide!
As far as your iPhone analogy, you can spend just as much on an Android phone. My Android phone cost $1,350 and it's not the most expensive one you can get. Android phones are just offered from the cheapest lowest quality to the most high end and everything in between. A $1,200 iPhone and a $1,200 Android are roughly the same overall quality, you might get slightly more bang for the buck with Android but not much. Apple just doesn't make anything of really low quality and fit and finish and they are the only company making that platform. There are many companies that make Android phones. There is a real significant difference in quality between a cheap phone and an expensive one. The screen quality, the processor, battery, camera and body of the phones are where are the differences lie.
I’m 60 years old and have been working on cars and Farm equipment since I was seven years old. I went straight to Mercedes-Benz and Volvo out of high school in 83. I have used all brands of tools. Snap On has served me well in my business of 34 years now, working on European cars. I know they cost more, but they feel better in your hand when you’re pulling on them all day, and they work. When I get on the Snap On truck and something broke, my Snap On dealer doesn’t ask me anything he either reaches and grabs me a new one and we exchange tools no questions ask or he orders me one.I keep a small balance on the truck to make sure he comes by each week in case I have something broken. Everybody has their preferences not bad mouthing any other brand. I’ve just enjoyed a career with Snap On. Cheers to all you gearheads.
I have been turning wrenches for over 50 years now and I approve this message.
43 years of experience! A SNAP ON REP! and CLEARLY a SUCCESSFUL wrench 🔧 turner! I’ll take your word for it! 👍
I don’t own any snap on just because of the price and definitely won’t be buying wrenches from them now 😂
I've been in the trade over 20 years. The majority of what I own are Mac tools, but I do have some snap on and harbor freight. In this day and age I am always surprised at the cost and quality of good tools. The Harbor Freight Daytona jack is killer for the price and a 2 year warranty.
Pretty sure that’s the one snap on sued them over no? Snap on didn’t have an exclusivity deal with the outsourced producer and harbour freight swooped in and it’s the exact same jack. I could be wrong but pretty sure that’s the deal. I’m in Canada and wanna make a run down just for that jack lol
@@bobbyvalentino2178 correct.
If you're talking about the 3-Ton Daytona Low Profile Super Duty. Yeah...snap ons FJ300 is the identical jack, except the Daytona is $289 (Full price, can get down to $209 or less on sale), meanwhile the Snap-On is $1,030. Even if price wasn't a consideration I like the smoother lines, color options, and less sharp edges of the Daytona.
I picked up the 3 ton low profile pittsburgh racing jack on that flash sale for 150 bucks. Very happy with it. (Idc what they say though, that thing ain't light. It is still a beast to lug around)
@@psubondNo one ever said that Jack was "lightweight". Just lighter, than comparable 3-Ton steel jacks. That Jack weighs 63.3 Lbs, vs something like the Daytona 3-ton Low Profile Super Duty at 104 lbs, or the low-profile long-reach at like 103 lbs. If you wanted something truly lightweight should have gotten the Daytona 1.5 Ultra Low Profile Lightweight Aluminum Racing Jack at 36lbs. Or the Daytona 2-Ton Professional Racing Series Aluminum Jack at 42.7 lbs. You sacrifice a little maximum lift height, but get a much lighter jack with those options, if it's something you wanted to be able to thrown around and transport more easily. Instead you got a full size standard size garage jack that's still 40lbs lighter...so not sure what you were expecting. No where in the marketing material, or the name, for that 3-Ton Pittsburgh Aluminum Jack, do they mention that the Jack itself is "lightweight". Only that it's constructed from lightweight Aluminum, meaning it's a lighter material than steel. Just sayin...
I'm pretty sure Mr Subaru is a Snap-On Dealer too. So what are the best wrenches to buy?
In 5 decades of shade tree working on my old cars, open end wrench slippage was never an issue, no was breakage
Awwww. Poor poor snappers. Spent all that money and still don’t have that best 😂😂😂😂😂🤮
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here is proof they are better, but if its worth the extra money is up to the buyer. Most common folk probably not. I have to go warranty 3 different icon tools today before they close, and I have only had them 8 months.....
@kevinragsdale6256 yep, people just blindly taking this video as gospel. They have never used a snap on wrench. They grip so good they'll round the metal hex (meaning the jaws won't spread on u). U just can't be an idiot and know when to use heat...
I don't work with nylon nuts so these demos don't mean squat.
I appreciate the integrity of you guys!!! And so should snap on!!! You didn’t take anything away from snap on, both tools performed as advertised. Someone had to lose.
that mr subaru character immediately turned off comments then deleted the video. that's all you need to know about that clown shoe
Thorough demonstration. I appreciate it! I own lots of Snap-On tools, but always like to see what cheaper options are out there. I don’t have access to my tools when I’m not at work, (even though I have over 30k invested) so need a 2nd set of basic tools.
Icon is the Snap-on of Harbor Freight! I just started buying them. Icon Tools will be the most expensive tools once you walk into Harbor Freight but money well spent!
I always hear from Snap-on fans that the price difference is in the steel. However, in the videos I have seen the Rockwell hardness test results are near identical and so is the weight. No tool manufactures reveal their alloy blend or heat treating process so you are expected to take them at their word, which is ridiculous. Maybe someone will post an alloy analysis soon.
No…No…Nooo…This just in from Larry L.Goober (Lubber Goober).First you you have to hold the wrenches sideways and upside down with slight vertical angle about 13 degrees to south northern pole, then with twist of right wrist and left wrist at 42 1/2 degree variation , push/pull!Then and only then will you have your winner!Thats how Larry L. Goober does it!
Brand loyalists don’t want to accept they over payed for their tools being made in the same place now as HB
Great video. Thanks for your perseverance.
The tool industry went up in arms after these test
This is becoming pure comedy! And I love it, except when I think on the big picture- China is beating us for 1/10th of the Price. With a no back story warranty. That SHOULD worry every American., all the best guys! 👍
Because they're using slave labor...
Harbor Freight opened here about two 2yrs ago, and they always have what you need. We have one SnapOn tool truck, and he lives 2 counties over he's busy, but with 4 counties, he stays busy, but you are only gonna see him once a month. And HF has all the other things that SnapOn doesn't have.
That is awesome haha, snap on fan boys are going crazy over this 😄
Just like icon fan boys are right 😂
I love this video it shows that you don't always have to spend all your money to get into this line of work. Now that said sometimes you do have to pay. But if I buy something cheap and it works a few times and then breaks it still made me my money
Snap on used to be great, quality tools. The problem was, the cheap tools were exactly that. Cheap quality. Now, cheaper tools are much better quality than they used to be. When i started working at the dealership at 19, im 39 now, i went crazy on the snap on truck 🤣. But, i knew the tools i were getting were going to hold up to the everyday demanding use better than anything i could buy at the local store. But after about 7 years, tools from the "cheaper" brands were becoming better and better. They eventually got to the point that spending $600 for a tool set from snap on didnt mean better quality anymore. It was just a huge mark up because of a name. Snap on has fallen off the last 5 years. I was a big snap on guy. Anyone who wrenches daily knows they are not what they used to be. The ones screaming everyone is wrong is in denial because Snap On had made a fortune off of them and no one wants to look like a fool. Stop giving snap on your hard earned money and be mad at them for making crap products!
The hell they dont have a combination lol they most definitely have a direction
Absolutely correct. I flip the open end when i have little movements
I been an industrial mechanic for about 10 years and i can honestly tell you. if youve done a mechanics job long enough you know it doesn't matter what tools you use ive seen ppl use very expensive tools the wrong way and ive used my husky, my pittsburg my gearwrench wrenches for whatever i needed and i lve always gotten thw job done i dont care what the brand is ive gone to do jobs with other ppls tools and ive got it done. Once you get to a certain level of experience you can get it done of course you prefer your tools because you know what ya got and where you can make your tools fit. I have a plethora of brands in all of my toolboxes and i use em all on a regular basis
Nobody is turning plastic nuts to failure. Torque test channel just put out a great video showing the snap on to be marginally better, but not enough to justify the cost difference. The flank drive system is a smidge better on all harness fasteners, but the price is absurd.
I use wrenches working on cars everyday. It’s very rare that I ever use the open end of a wrench.
Exactly. Same here. Allso had my own fleet of trucks. Internationals. Peterbilts and western stars. In 40 years never had to take or slacken a bolt like this test ever!!!!!!. And im a 100% snap on owner. This is one of those bullshit tests that might happen in a blue moon in a veey rare circumstance You tube Crap.
Your test is legit in my opinion.
Only bone I pick is they are called Combination wrenches because one end is Open Ended while other end is enclosed or Boxed. Yes, the Open End can be turned in either direction with the same grip, bite, etc
Man you are awesome I appreciate you and your time
i love that people just cant admit they have been paying way to much for their tools and will not admit that
I don’t think you were using exactly 25.7 psi on each side while holding the nylon at 47 degrees towards you while the ambient temperature outside is 78. I call this a sham lol.
Great video, I’m it a pro so even kobalt wrenches do my oil change just fine
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True if you think you can't flip a combo wrench any orientation and it not grab. User error. There's plenty of times when the "correct " way doesn't work and flip it 180 and it grabs.
Love this demonstration. Snap-On guys are all up in arms, you guys are not the only ones to call this out. It's all over youtube. God Bless my friend have a good one Haters are going to hate, life to short to worry about that.. Thumbs up!
The icon performs in any condition, but this user didn’t have the correct athletic stance to give the snap on a fighting chance.
If someone ever says to me half inch and 13mm are the same i would never let them touch my stuff...
The wrench that is holding versus the one that is applying pressure that where the magic happens. In the video it appeared to me that the snap on wrench was always the wrench holding and the gearwrench was always the one applying the pressure therefore it was the one that twisted around the nylon nut. Whatever wrench is applying the pressure i would imagine will always let go on a nylon nut. Or at least that's what I've seen every time the test was done no matter the wrench that's applying the turning force it will be the one to round off the nut.
This dude is literally turning the earth backwards with this video
They should be thankful that you save them a lot of money.
Thank you Sir.
Thank you for this service
For some mechanics starting out, like a tech school kid, Icon is the only brand they can afford at the time. $$$ brand wrench won’t make you a great mechanic. But I know people love their brands.
I want the wrench that holds best regardless of direction. You didnt do it wrong, it should work in any direction with any size. I can't even remember the last time i used a 1/2 wrench. 12mm? yea, 10mm? of course 14mm? all the time. Also, rthe deg offset is so you can flip and use it in tight spaces. Love the channel.
I had to frame an addition on my house. I needed a framing nail gun. I bought one at Harbor freight for around 110.00. A DeWalt was around 500.00. Had Harbor Freight replacement warrantee. So I could replace it 5 times before I'd be paying as much as. DeWalt. Still have Harbor Freight gun and it works fine after 10 years. Also have a compound slide 12" saw I paid 130.00 at HB, works great after 10 years
Combination wrenches do have a less likely direction in not rounding a bolt/nut. In this case it probably doesn't matter since its not tight enough to show that but there 100% is a direction on a combination wrench.
Well to be fair the moon, sun and the stars must be aligned correctly . Then and only then the snap-on wrench might have a chance. 😂😂😂😂 To be fair to snap-on this was an old test i remember it like 20-30 years ago when snap-on was the only company that was offering any improvement on the open end side of combination wrenches, now you see it everywhere. 😊
It does matter what way a combination wrench faces. The 15° offset is for access. A adjustable wrench it matters what way you turn. To my understanding.
I gotta change my tattoo😥
Folks get too invested in products they had no hand in creating.
The second part of the test snapon doesn’t slip. The harbor freight is the one that slips In your video. The nut stays with the HF because if slipped bad like the snapon did at first. Play it back. I purchased a harbor freight set and tried it on 15mm grade 8 bolt and the HF teeth ripped off and the chrome was damaged. This test snap-on came up with is stupid and gimmicky unless the car you’re working on is full of nylon nuts and bolts. I like the fact that there’s a cheaper alternative but it does fail sooner than the snap-on in my test on real bolts. My worn daily used older flank drive plus snapon slips sooner than the harbor freight but a brand new snapon beats the brand new HF. Unfortunately the HF fails mechanically when it slips.
I'll still buy snap on or mac over icon. I don't tighten nylon nuts all day I tighten metal fasteners. I've never had any issues with my mac or snap on wrenches slipping. And I think torque test channel did a test on different wrenches and I'm pretty sure snap on and mac rated higher than icon.
Im not gonna lie that man looks good for having done this job for 43 years
Your point it totally valid opens end wrenches are ment to use both ways it it surprising that snap on slipped
I have the Carlyle wrenches that are basically the same as those icons. They’ve done really good for me
Good job sir,i like snap on too,just not the prices or pulling teeth with getting them warranteed.
May or may not matter but I noticed something on the snap-on video from 6 years ago. The dealer is pushing his thumb against the nylon nut next to the snap-on wrench. He did it both times.
Who cares. A wright grip beats them both
My ICON tool box set-up with hutch and locker was $4300 with all the discounts. It weighs within 4 lbs. of a snap-on. The snap-on equivalent was $28,000. It came on a truck too delivered to my home. No payment plan, but if I wanted to it would be zero percent interest.
I currently work on big rigs for living (having used both Icon and Snap-on); and I can honestly say I've had more issues removing bolts with Snap-on wrenches than I have with Icon wrenches.
Just because you own a snap-on, it doesn't make you better than everybody else. Just saying
In that 6 yr old Snap-on Demo, by the Snap-on Rep both wrenches he demonstrated w/ were 13mm.
Snap-on lost its way. Just like Craftsman, you go cheaper on making items and the outcome is what you get. Its like Nike running shoes at 149.00 vs Brooks at 49.99. I'll take Brooks any day of the week.
I’ve had icon since they came out and zero issues. Idc if snap on is better or not I’ve legit had no issues no rounded bolts nothing. Only some snap on tools are worth it.
Your the best man like I said on last video you just saved me a ton of money thanks a bunch icon here I come
I just feel sorry for that mechanic that owes the snap on truck tens of thousands of dollars
Everybody you're pissed off because they spent years turning snap on tools thinking they had the best tools spending their money on what they thought were the best tools and now the icon is coming to the stage with superior holding power, and guys feel like they've wasted their money and their time on snap-on. They don't want to admit that they spent their money on garbage.
"The problem isn't that Johnny can't read. The problem isn't even that Johnny can't think. The problem is that Johnny doesn't know what thinking is. He confuses it with feeling." ~Thomas Sowell
I remember torque test channel checking various manufactures open ends, as I recall he found that most taiwan made wrenches have the same dimension on their 13mm as their 1/2” maybe Mr subaru is right about the test being messed up by using 13mm. Either way it’s interesting, I think it’s good to call out snap on when it’s needed. Their QC department has been slacking for years
It's the design of the icon it's engaging more of the fastener with the notch cut out in the bottom
You people spend more time fighting wrenches than fixing my car
Right, notice the jaws "teeth" are the same (amount an pattern) on each jaw and on each brand , thus, they are Not directional! Well done Royalty.
However, I did check my Mac/Facom/USAG and that open end has a different pattern and shape on each jaw.