For those wondering why I censored the hits from the 09 Browns game, did it in case it got the video demonetized, so wanted to be better safe than sorry. Otherwise I’d show the hit.
It wasn't just a dislocated knee that ended Stafford's rookie season. It was that, combined with the injury he got in the Browns game, that did it. He did come back to play after the Browns game, but was never right afterward. When he re-injured it and got a dislocated knee against the Jets, that's what ended his season.
Absolutely no explanation, just picked up the flag. TBH, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jerry was behind the Jamo suspension. After getting embarrassed on his birthday, I could see him whining to the league to find some dirt on the Lions.
Yeah we definitely got fucked that game but it's ok cuz Dallas lost kn controversy next round the famous Dez did/didn't catch it bs ( even tho I hate Dallas he caught that ) but glad they got fucked over after fucking us over karma she's real lmao
Stafford was drafted at the same time I had become a young lions fan. I always loved him for the effort he gave and the talent I thought went unseen on a national landscape. No one ever gave him praise and it infuriated me. When he went to the rams, it was bittersweet, because I lost one of my favorite athletes ever growing up, but I knew his time had passed. He deserved a real shot at contention, and a team in rebuild was not the vessel for that. I rooted for him on the rams and was overjoyed he was able to win. Even the media being disingenuous in waiting to give him praise now that he's won and pretend like he's always been great still bothers me. At the end of the day, he was a true representation of Detroit his whole time here. Even though he was counted out, he still went to work everyday and gave it his all, even when times were the worst. I will always love and respect Matthew Stafford.
I said it on my main comment but the year he had like 10 comeback wins and didn't sniff MVP still bothers me to this day. Those squads were not that talented (definitely not enough to be "unlocked" by a guy much less Patricia). There's no question his smooth performance steadied that ship like few other franchises could be at that time. To me, if you're gonna give a QB MVP, that should be the reason. Where you definitively can point at a guy and go "our team is bubkiss without him." Not just because a guy throws 30+TD's.
The reason the flag against the cowboys was picked up was because Dez Bryant went on the field to argue it. Not only is that a penalty since he was on the field without a helmet but it was also a blatant pass interference that should’ve never been overturned. Also karma that the “Dez caught it” fiasco happened immediately after
Great video! One one of those die-hard Staffard fans! He had a sweet notable moment several years back during a random Lions game when they were behind and mid-way in the 3rd quarter he got sick of how the team was playing and spiked the ball mid-game to berate them and told them to get their shit together. I believe Detroit won that game. I wish I knew the specific game. It was a baller move and only he could've pulled it off.
Been a Lions fan since the start of the Stafford era, really loved watching Stafford and Megatron, love the current Lions but will never hate on Stafford. Still a Detroit legend in my book. Go Lions, hoping for a Super Bowl this season
I'm a lifelong Lions fan, and in my opinion Stafford is a HoF lock and should be. His playstyle gets him a lot of picks (kinda like Josh Allen in terms of passing from 2023) but no matter what when you need him to be there he showed up. He's 5th all time in 4th Quarter Comebacks and 6th in Game Winning Drives, only behind some of the greatest QB's of all time and ahead or tied with Drew Brees, a HoF lock. I think that's telling enough.
@@UnholyWrath3277 That entire playoff series for the NFC felt cosmically off. Extremely entertaining, I'm not sure we'll ever see something like that for a long time.
Stafford did nothing but give it all he had. Even in the END, he gave Detroit a bunch of picks and another 1st round QB on the way out the door to help them start their new chapter. I live in Michigan but grew up as Rams fan, I used to watch Lions games and would tell the guys that Stafford could win a title if the organization could get it together. Think about all that had to occur to turn that WHOLE franchise around, they had to FIRE everyone and start over, a complete rebuild...he just didn't think he had it in him to endure another one, a whole new system...he had already been through SO much by that time. That super bowl year showed what pairing him with a really good, complete team and a REALLY GOOD coach could do. When he finally hangs them up, he'll get his gold jacket. I think he's got ONE more title in him, also.
@@TheCountofToulouse Don’t know if Stafford has another one left in him, but being a long suffering Lions fan I can appreciate the overall sentiment you expressed.
The only way Stafford has another one in him is if they find another super bowl team to trade him to. The Rams were Super Bowl caliber before picking up Stafford, and a few others. for their super bowl winning season. They lost a couple of those players in the off season and look at how bad they started the next season. The rams sold the farm for that super bowl and Stafford wasn't the piece that carried the team, he was just another piece that helped hold together a puzzle that was pretty much finished.
@@dustinroberson1865 Only an imbecile would make that claim. I saw that playoff run, I saw that last drive in the Super Bowl when everyone was injured and Stafford only had ONE WR left. I like Goff, he's a capable QB but I'm also a RAMS fan and got a BIG dose of what he's good at and what he's NOT. Goff never gets out of Tampa Bay in that playoff run, he really NEVER gets out of the NFC title game and even if he did, he stalls out on that last drive when the Rams need a SCORE to win because he doesn't throw that NO LOOK pass to draw Bell off for the crucial completion. Stafford had his BEST year as a QB and a pro his FIRST year with the Rams...but yeah, keep up with that 'Stafford wasn't the reason' bullcrap. Stafford WILL get another title and it WILL be with McVay.
@@dustinroberson1865 I have never in my life heard a qb throwing for 50 tds (including playoffs) not carrying the team and just being "a puzzle piece"
@@twisteddemon1266 He was a puzzle piece...I guess you've heard it twice now. I'm not saying he wasn't a good quarterback. He was a high risk, high reward qb, and the issue with him, was that the risk part happened too often. 17 interceptions is huge. Not only are you taking away a chance for your team to score, you are giving the other team another chance to score. Goff isn't as electrifying as a qb, but he doesn't make as many mistakes. You can't tell me the defense is that much better on the current lions compared to when stafford played. Goff doesn't give the opponent extra chances with the ball. Too many people just look at the positive stats and don't look at the negatives that are brought to the team
it was because a broken hand for Stafford, that the run they had in 2016 ended w/ 3 straight losses in the regular season then the loss to Seattle in the playoffs. that team was good enough to have won that playoff game. i think that's a really important part of this story that you missed out on.
@@brickwallblitz Yes, you mention it happened in the Chicago game. But you didn’t mention the impact it had on those 4 games all being losses, including the playoff game, right after the incredible streak they were on up through the game he broke his hand.
Great vid! I had a good time booing him in person at the playoff game last year lol. I'm not sure if it's to skirt some copyright issue, but the processed images aren't great.
Honestly the best objective breakdown of Staffords career with the Lions I have ever seen , I think this gives great insight into the debate if Stafford is that dude or not , Coming from a bias (but with the stats to back him up) fan , this take really defines him as a QB for better or worse. Great work man!
As a Lions fan I got nothing but respect for Stafford. Even though those teams weren’t great he made watching football fun for a fan base starving for any hope. His trade was one the key moves in sparking our renaissance. Thanks #9 you gave us everything you had every Sunday and imo the toughest QB to ever play.
It wasn't a knee injury that ended his season two weeks after that Browns game. It was his shoulder and he didn't play the rest of the season after that game.
He’s a hall of famer in my book. He went and got his ring and by leaving he single-handedly facilitated the lions turn around. Basically every one of those draft picks were turned into key players for the current roster. Brad Holmes has been excellent with his draft selections.
In some sense, you could say that Stafford is responsible for the Lions current success. After all, in the trade with the Rams, in addition to Jared Goff (a early MVP candidate in 2024) the Lions also got a significant number of draft picks that they have used to select what is perhaps the best collection of young talent in the league.
That playoff game vs the cowboys made me quit watching football for a little bit. I remember they hurried up, and ran a play after that flag. To prevent the refs from going back, they snapped the ball, and it was out of their reach to do anything to overturn the penalty. I was wrong as fuck though, after the second down play from that set of downs- They basically acted like it never happened ,then the refs picked the flag back up. They brought it back to that 4th down like the 1st down from the penalty. It wasn't just because it was a bullshit pickup on an obvious penalty. It was that they did it when it when the down of the penalty was not the previous play.
We all love him dude. Except when he comes in wearing a different jersey then it's all boos. When he comes back in street clothes he's getting all the love he deserves and more
The one factor most overlooked is that Stafford had something like 6 or 8 hundred yard rushes by his running backs over a good 100 game stretch, so defenses had no fear of play action passes. They generally just put their ears back and tried to pressure Stafford as much as possible. You can see why he had over 25 4th qtr comebacks in his time in Detroit.
28 fourth qtr. comebacks with a team with zero run game is a HoF stat. Detroit is winning now because of a balanced attack, and that's why defenses are frozen because of the play action threat.
@@johnnyslokes2712 He’s top 4 all time in being sacked and pass attempts, all while having a historically weak run game to balance out the passing. Around 8 100 yards rushing attacks while here in Detroit. Statistically speaking that should have been closer to 40. Defenses had one job, disrupt the pass.
@Embur12 Okay, but Stafford was still one of the best play action quarterbacks in the league. He didn't need a good run game to have a good play action pass, is my point.
Man I agree with you. But I think its deeper than the "Mathew Stafford Lions" that were utter chaos. Because the rot was evident with Barry Sanders too. It was the "William Clay Ford III / Martha Ford Detroit Lions" that were in utter chaos. As soon as Shelia took over, turned them right around. Its almost embarrassing how quickly she fixed things around here.
There was a lot of frustration, but there was also the sense that more often than not, Stafford would do the impossible. Like when Todd Gurley accidentally scored and left time on the clock for Stafford, you had the sense as a fan that the game was in hand, even though he still had to drive the length of the field. The basic blue print was start pretty well, do nothing in the second and third quarters, then steal the game at the end of the 4th. It was always exciting, but it just wasn't a good recipe for sustained success.
Stafford was held back by his own choice. He handicapped that team every contract he signed he demanded more money everytime but never won with only 1 playoff appearance. Notice other SB QBs have a lower average contract so there’s cap room for other good players
The Matthew Stafford era in Detroit was doomed after one mistake. The Lions decision to draft Eric Ebron instead of Odell Beckham Jr or Aaron Donald in 2014. The offense often stagnated when a team had nickel who could keep up with Tate. They didn't have a 3rd option. Odell would have taken pressure off Megatron and would have opened up the field for Tate but they passed and promoted Jeremy Ross from the practice squad who had one good game and was generally worthless. Or they could have picked Suh's replacement with Aaron Donald. And this isn't in hindsight. This was the only logical choice at the time. Even when Erbon was draft Mel Kiper was confused and said I thought they were picking Odell. Check the tape. He literally said it on air.
This why I don’t understand why new Lions fans try to clown Stafford in favor of Goff. Not only was Stafford bettter on a way worse team, he was tougher, and as an inner-city Detroiter he WAS Detroit.
@@darkhobo Lmao we really do live in two different Americas. He's saying that he's speaking as an inner city Detroit resident, Stafford meant more to the city of Detroit than Goff. You just read it too literally.
At no point in the Stafford era was any of his teams worse than that 21 team. Yet goff still had a better rating in thst year than Stafford career at the time.
@@silent1759 Prime Stafford with this team now would be scary. Stafford THEN was way better than Goff NOW. At this point in time Stafford is washed.. Lions traded at the perfect time.
6-10 in 2010 was decent considering they started 2-10. I'll always respect him for how much he gave this team. Hell, he wanted to come here. Sam Bradford stayed in college an extra year, most assuming to avoid being drafted by Detroit but Stafford wasn't scared of it. I feel the 2014 season playoff loss to Dallas is when doubt about getting it done here probably started to creep into his head. Maybe they still don't win with that penalty but the chance of winning was taken from them.
Gotta say, I don’t really miss him all that much. Glad he did what he did in LA. But now that Campbell and Holmes have us rolling, on the back of the picks we got from trading Stafford, he’s kind of just a footnote in lions history. Good QB who was pretty bad when it mattered.
As a Packers fan, I never feared Stafford or the Lions team he lead (I likely did not feel the former mostly because the latter was so generally awful), but I respected the heck out of his toughness and ability and knew that more often than not, it would be no cakewalk to stop him. I did fear Megatron.
As a lion lifer I seen some stuff..oh boy..but I was glad to see suh go...so much talent but so much temper and such a selfish player so many personal fouls that killed us..ugh..but I was so dang happy for matt winning the SB the man deserved it
The playoff game against the Cowboys was the most obviously rigged games I've seen. Also, Stafford is absolutely a HoFer. Best arm of all time, got a ring, and has the stats to back it up
Of course as a lions, fan I believe Stafford is well overdue for HOF talks. But of course as a lions fan, I’m going to boo him when he faces the Lions.
Stafford was a good QB, but he was never anywhere near the caliber of Manning and Brady. Brady and Manning were not only clutch, but they were LEADERS who put the team on their backs and set the tone for the whole team not just offensively. The reason he had to come back so much during his time in Detroit, was because his led offenses didn't always get ahead early, but always found themselves behind in the end, that amounted to so many of his empty passing yards. He won't make the team great but he's a great complimentary player.
Calvin Johnson is hands down the best wide receiver of all time. If he was with a better team he’d have broken all records. Somehow the lions have some of the greatest players of all time but never got anywhere with them
This maker ISNT from Michigan. Michigan ppl loved Stafford from the 1st game and cheered his superbowl victory. We had the best running back and wide receiver of all time and had to see them retire with nothing but our love. We cheered Stafford and his superbowl win.. Now we want our own... GO LIONS 2025
You’re insane to say that Stafford was underappreciated. At least if you mean from a fan perspective, because we rolled with that dude and celebrated him winning a damn Super Bowl with a completely different team.
Well the cucks did that. I hoped he lost because of all the 12 years of failure that he brought us due to his salary cap and not speaking up as a leader. He let Patricia bully his friends. Fat Patricia…
Nothing more vindicating in my years of watching football then watching my fav qb go from "stat padford" to superbowl champion. He should get a gold jacket for shutting the haters up in one season.
Stafford threw for over 5,000 yards and 40 Tds and still didn't go to the pro bowl. Instead they gave it to Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Eli Manning. And he wasn't even an alternate.. that was Cam Newton.
Those early 2010s Lions teams had 0 run game and 0 secondary. They made Matt Flynn 26 million dollars. Stafford had to sacrifice his career there to finally break the Bobby Layne curse.
Nope, until Goff wins a super bowl.. Rams won that trade by a mile. The whole point of trading for Stafford was to win a super bowl. Lions haven't won anything with Goff.. They made the playoffs last year but what did that actually do? Nothing yet
@@joeyabraham6330 I typically don’t believe in one bad call affecting a game completely but as an outsider the Lions have gotten screwed by bad calls more than anyone else. Idk how Lions fans deal with it.
Thanks to the clueless Ford family, our Lions have been the WORST managed team in pro sports since 1963! Billy Sims, Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, and Matthew Stafford were great, but our ownership could NEVER figure out how to field a complete team. The 2023 season was the best we’ve had since 1957, and they’re looking good for the rest of this season. GO LIONS!
@@goblue193 I remember a reporter was (supposedly) privately confided in a dinner before that Eagles playoff game he had that they had their doubts he was really ready for the game. Dude got eaten alive.
Stafford is the best QB in Lions history. Even if Goff wins a Super Bowl and MVP... Stafford will always be the better QB. And until Goff wins a super bowl.. Rams won that trade
@malrulesall9669 Nah, Lions haven't haven't won anything. The whole point of the trade was for the Rams to win the Super Bowl, and they immediately did. That's why we play the game. It is to win the Super Bowl. Lions didn't do that, Rams did.
If you're in the top 10 all time in passing yards and soon to be passing TD's, just based on longevity you should be in the HOF. IMO everyone in that top 10 is a HOFer. The only reason Stafford doesn't have more accolades is because he was playing at the same time as 7 of those guys on that list.
Stafford was inconsistent. He was the best worst qb in the league when he was with the lions. At times he would look superhuman, but then he would also look like a back up qb throwing some of the worst interceptions. Many of Staffords comebacks were from his own turnovers. I don't think Stafford was a terrible qb, but he wasn't a great qb. You couldn't rely on him to consistently carry your team. If you needed him to march your team down the field one time, you had pretty good faith in him. If you needed him to consistently put the team on his back, he wasn't going to do it. He now has a super bowl win, but he was on probably the best all around team in the NFL. Yet he still made his bone head mistakes, like the throw to the 49ers in the conference championship (which was somehow dropped). He also had his typical league leading interceptions. Goff may not be as electrifying as Stafford, but i have much more trust in Goff. He is less likely to throw a game away and is still putting up great stats.
Everyone has been saying "I wish Lions fans would be humble like they used to." When really all they want is for us to be a dumpster fire so they can make fun of us and we can't say anything back
It's not even they want you to be a dumpster fire. It's they want you for some reason to return to being irrelevant. A dumpster fire in New York with the Jets can still be a media circus people sell tickets for (Come one come all, come see the freaks!). Like so long as you're in that 5-9 win window for some reason thats okay with them. I don't get that. Why can't a long suffering fan base be proud of their team? Also being humble has got them shit all. Campbell came in as HC and proclaimed the need to bite some knee caps, to get the dust (of losing) off their backs. Thats bold, to come in and say your past sucked. Screw it, doesn't matter lets kick some ass. New year new us. I'm hoping they take that to the SB (I wanted them to last year) since my teams resetting.
It's so bittersweet to look at our team now. I love Goff and if not for the Stafford trade our rebuild wouldn't have been so successful, but just IMAGINE Stafford with our current O-line, defense, and run game....good lord man
Part of the reason Stafford was upset at Detroit fans was because a bunch of them decided to boo not just him but Kelly AND their children. As a Detroit fan myself that was so uncalled for and embarrassing and i dont blame him for being pissed about it
His wife talks shit about Detroit what did he expect lol I love Stafford and I really hope he’s on good terms when he retires but if him and his wife don’t stop bashing Detroit it’ll never be that way
For those wondering why I censored the hits from the 09 Browns game, did it in case it got the video demonetized, so wanted to be better safe than sorry. Otherwise I’d show the hit.
It wasn't just a dislocated knee that ended Stafford's rookie season. It was that, combined with the injury he got in the Browns game, that did it. He did come back to play after the Browns game, but was never right afterward. When he re-injured it and got a dislocated knee against the Jets, that's what ended his season.
That playoff loss @ Dallas is still one of the worst if not the worst robberies of all time
Absolutely no explanation, just picked up the flag. TBH, I wouldn’t be surprised if Jerry was behind the Jamo suspension. After getting embarrassed on his birthday, I could see him whining to the league to find some dirt on the Lions.
Still hurts to this day 🥲
Yeah we definitely got fucked that game but it's ok cuz Dallas lost kn controversy next round the famous Dez did/didn't catch it bs ( even tho I hate Dallas he caught that ) but glad they got fucked over after fucking us over karma she's real lmao
Detroit had to get so good that the refs couldn't steal it from them. Notice the absolute destruction of the cowboys this year lol
This is the game where I knew the NFL was Rigged.
"One of only 13 teams to beat the Browns" is such a harsh stray
But at least Deshaun Watson isn’t qb
How?
that was my favorite comment in the video 😂😂
@@rediknight9056 Teams don't usually get beat by 13 other teams in the same season unless they are like really, really bad
Stafford was drafted at the same time I had become a young lions fan. I always loved him for the effort he gave and the talent I thought went unseen on a national landscape. No one ever gave him praise and it infuriated me. When he went to the rams, it was bittersweet, because I lost one of my favorite athletes ever growing up, but I knew his time had passed. He deserved a real shot at contention, and a team in rebuild was not the vessel for that. I rooted for him on the rams and was overjoyed he was able to win. Even the media being disingenuous in waiting to give him praise now that he's won and pretend like he's always been great still bothers me. At the end of the day, he was a true representation of Detroit his whole time here. Even though he was counted out, he still went to work everyday and gave it his all, even when times were the worst. I will always love and respect Matthew Stafford.
I said it on my main comment but the year he had like 10 comeback wins and didn't sniff MVP still bothers me to this day. Those squads were not that talented (definitely not enough to be "unlocked" by a guy much less Patricia). There's no question his smooth performance steadied that ship like few other franchises could be at that time. To me, if you're gonna give a QB MVP, that should be the reason. Where you definitively can point at a guy and go "our team is bubkiss without him." Not just because a guy throws 30+TD's.
@@Gungho73don't get me wrong, I hear you. But Calvin Johnson. They were a duo.
@@Gungho73don't get me wrong, I hear you. But Calvin Johnson. They were a duo.
@@darkhoboHis numbers didn’t dip when Megatron retired. If I remember correctly, they went up.
I lost it at "detroit did what it was best at and hold stafford back"
Same😂
Stafford carried the team with his heart and comebacks for over a decade.
Stafford wasn’t half the leader Goff is.
Can't believe I forgot to mention Matthew Stafford and Clayton Kershaw went to high school together.
they basically the same person so
I cant believe you used the racist name for the Washington football team, instant dislike and hitting the "dont recommend channel." button
@@gearsking0get over yourself
That's too bad you forgot. Nobody knows that, or that Stafford was Kershaw's HS catcher 😛
@@gearsking0 They are sueing to get the old name and logo back ?
The reason the flag against the cowboys was picked up was because Dez Bryant went on the field to argue it. Not only is that a penalty since he was on the field without a helmet but it was also a blatant pass interference that should’ve never been overturned. Also karma that the “Dez caught it” fiasco happened immediately after
100000% was karma. Been saying it for years brother ur absolutely correct. He didnt catch it either
Lions fan for 30+ years. I'll always love Stafford for giving us hope even in the darkest of times.
Sweet Ys music btw. Love it!
Great video! One one of those die-hard Staffard fans! He had a sweet notable moment several years back during a random Lions game when they were behind and mid-way in the 3rd quarter he got sick of how the team was playing and spiked the ball mid-game to berate them and told them to get their shit together. I believe Detroit won that game.
I wish I knew the specific game. It was a baller move and only he could've pulled it off.
That Tate TD is the most disrespectful TD of all time.
Been a Lions fan since the start of the Stafford era, really loved watching Stafford and Megatron, love the current Lions but will never hate on Stafford. Still a Detroit legend in my book. Go Lions, hoping for a Super Bowl this season
I'm a lifelong Lions fan, and in my opinion Stafford is a HoF lock and should be. His playstyle gets him a lot of picks (kinda like Josh Allen in terms of passing from 2023) but no matter what when you need him to be there he showed up. He's 5th all time in 4th Quarter Comebacks and 6th in Game Winning Drives, only behind some of the greatest QB's of all time and ahead or tied with Drew Brees, a HoF lock. I think that's telling enough.
And that man is tough as nails, he got his ass KICKED behind a non existent O line... weekly, and still clocked 4000 or more
Stafford was similar to Brett Favre
I think we can no longer underestimate the importance of a competent general manager.
To this day I’m still waiting on an explanation for why that flag was picked up in Dallas 🤔
The league hates Detroit
It's easy the check from the cowboys cleared
@@UnholyWrath3277 That entire playoff series for the NFC felt cosmically off. Extremely entertaining, I'm not sure we'll ever see something like that for a long time.
Even President Obama said Detroit was 'jobbed' during that Dallas game !
@ and he’s a bears fan. That’s how you know it was bs lol
Stafford did nothing but give it all he had. Even in the END, he gave Detroit a bunch of picks and another 1st round QB on the way out the door to help them start their new chapter.
I live in Michigan but grew up as Rams fan, I used to watch Lions games and would tell the guys that Stafford could win a title if the organization could get it together. Think about all that had to occur to turn that WHOLE franchise around, they had to FIRE everyone and start over, a complete rebuild...he just didn't think he had it in him to endure another one, a whole new system...he had already been through SO much by that time. That super bowl year showed what pairing him with a really good, complete team and a REALLY GOOD coach could do.
When he finally hangs them up, he'll get his gold jacket. I think he's got ONE more title in him, also.
@@TheCountofToulouse Don’t know if Stafford has another one left in him, but being a long suffering Lions fan I can appreciate the overall sentiment you expressed.
The only way Stafford has another one in him is if they find another super bowl team to trade him to. The Rams were Super Bowl caliber before picking up Stafford, and a few others. for their super bowl winning season. They lost a couple of those players in the off season and look at how bad they started the next season. The rams sold the farm for that super bowl and Stafford wasn't the piece that carried the team, he was just another piece that helped hold together a puzzle that was pretty much finished.
@@dustinroberson1865
Only an imbecile would make that claim.
I saw that playoff run, I saw that last drive in the Super Bowl when everyone was injured and Stafford only had ONE WR left.
I like Goff, he's a capable QB but I'm also a RAMS fan and got a BIG dose of what he's good at and what he's NOT. Goff never gets out of Tampa Bay in that playoff run, he really NEVER gets out of the NFC title game and even if he did, he stalls out on that last drive when the Rams need a SCORE to win because he doesn't throw that NO LOOK pass to draw Bell off for the crucial completion.
Stafford had his BEST year as a QB and a pro his FIRST year with the Rams...but yeah, keep up with that 'Stafford wasn't the reason' bullcrap.
Stafford WILL get another title and it WILL be with McVay.
@@dustinroberson1865 I have never in my life heard a qb throwing for 50 tds (including playoffs) not carrying the team and just being "a puzzle piece"
@@twisteddemon1266 He was a puzzle piece...I guess you've heard it twice now. I'm not saying he wasn't a good quarterback. He was a high risk, high reward qb, and the issue with him, was that the risk part happened too often. 17 interceptions is huge. Not only are you taking away a chance for your team to score, you are giving the other team another chance to score. Goff isn't as electrifying as a qb, but he doesn't make as many mistakes. You can't tell me the defense is that much better on the current lions compared to when stafford played. Goff doesn't give the opponent extra chances with the ball.
Too many people just look at the positive stats and don't look at the negatives that are brought to the team
Jim Bob Cooter line had me dying lmfao
Yeah I thought he was gonna talk about the coach but he just had to point out his name 😂
2014 team could’ve gone far in the play offs
I love Jon Bois secret channel! All jokes aside great videos, just binged all of your work and you're killing it!
Then Stafford realized a Super Bowl win ends up somewhere else.
it was because a broken hand for Stafford, that the run they had in 2016 ended w/ 3 straight losses in the regular season then the loss to Seattle in the playoffs. that team was good enough to have won that playoff game.
i think that's a really important part of this story that you missed out on.
@@MrAndrewLawrence420 I talk about it at 20:47.
@@brickwallblitz Yes, you mention it happened in the Chicago game. But you didn’t mention the impact it had on those 4 games all being losses, including the playoff game, right after the incredible streak they were on up through the game he broke his hand.
That was such an underrated season for us we really could’ve won that playoff game 🤦🏾♂️
@@MrAndrewLawrence420 dude you suck make your own damn content
Great video.. really enjoyed it
Great vid! I had a good time booing him in person at the playoff game last year lol.
I'm not sure if it's to skirt some copyright issue, but the processed images aren't great.
Stafford in Caldwell era was really fun but frustrating as hell. Can't win when your starting TE is Eric Ebron and RB is ameer abdullah
Honestly the best objective breakdown of Staffords career with the Lions I have ever seen , I think this gives great insight into the debate if Stafford is that dude or not , Coming from a bias (but with the stats to back him up) fan , this take really defines him as a QB for better or worse. Great work man!
As a Lions fan I got nothing but respect for Stafford. Even though those teams weren’t great he made watching football fun for a fan base starving for any hope. His trade was one the key moves in sparking our renaissance. Thanks #9 you gave us everything you had every Sunday and imo the toughest QB to ever play.
Stafford is without a doubt a hall of famer
It wasn't a knee injury that ended his season two weeks after that Browns game. It was his shoulder and he didn't play the rest of the season after that game.
Lions fan here he was great!
Bro 6k subs? This video was incredible. People give this man a sub!!
LOVE your videos and your style. keep going !
@@Luka7Donc1c thank you Luka, you are one of my 4 favorite nba players!
Your videos are really good dude keep it up
I’m glad that Stafford got his superbowl ring, he was one tough quarterback.
He’s a hall of famer in my book. He went and got his ring and by leaving he single-handedly facilitated the lions turn around. Basically every one of those draft picks were turned into key players for the current roster. Brad Holmes has been excellent with his draft selections.
In some sense, you could say that Stafford is responsible for the Lions current success. After all, in the trade with the Rams, in addition to Jared Goff (a early MVP candidate in 2024) the Lions also got a significant number of draft picks that they have used to select what is perhaps the best collection of young talent in the league.
That playoff game vs the cowboys made me quit watching football for a little bit. I remember they hurried up, and ran a play after that flag. To prevent the refs from going back, they snapped the ball, and it was out of their reach to do anything to overturn the penalty. I was wrong as fuck though, after the second down play from that set of downs- They basically acted like it never happened ,then the refs picked the flag back up. They brought it back to that 4th down like the 1st down from the penalty. It wasn't just because it was a bullshit pickup on an obvious penalty. It was that they did it when it when the down of the penalty was not the previous play.
English please
“the lions were going up against top defenses… and the chargers” 😭
As a growing boy Jim Schwartz is the first coach I remember for the lions (my fav team) and I was pissed they fired him
Sounds just like me when they fired jim Caldwell. I wonder what these two coaches could have accomplished with a couple more seasons?
Do not cite the deep magic to me, i was there when it was written
(Great video. What an era)
We may have been a terrible team but it was pretty fun to watch most of the time
Megatron really made it fun too
Rams fan. Always grateful for Stafford. Just hope things come full circle and he gets love from Lions fans when he does hang it up.
We all love him dude. Except when he comes in wearing a different jersey then it's all boos. When he comes back in street clothes he's getting all the love he deserves and more
Ha. You got Kelly Stafford though. That's a Big L.
@@darkhoboKelly ain't that bad, bro. 😂
Oh his jersey retirement will be nothing but love from us Michigan folk.
Lions fans booing Stafford was the only negative of the Dan Campbell era for me.
The one factor most overlooked is that Stafford had something like 6 or 8 hundred yard rushes by his running backs over a good 100 game stretch, so defenses had no fear of play action passes. They generally just put their ears back and tried to pressure Stafford as much as possible. You can see why he had over 25 4th qtr comebacks in his time in Detroit.
28 fourth qtr. comebacks with a team with zero run game is a HoF stat. Detroit is winning now because of a balanced attack, and that's why defenses are frozen because of the play action threat.
That didn't matter a lot, Stafford was typically one of the best play action passers despite having a poor rushing attack most the time
@@johnnyslokes2712 He’s top 4 all time in being sacked and pass attempts, all while having a historically weak run game to balance out the passing. Around 8 100 yards rushing attacks while here in Detroit. Statistically speaking that should have been closer to 40. Defenses had one job, disrupt the pass.
@Embur12 Okay, but Stafford was still one of the best play action quarterbacks in the league. He didn't need a good run game to have a good play action pass, is my point.
The fact that Daunte Culpepper and Matt Stanford’s careers intersected at one point is wild to think about.
You are way too good at this to only have 5k subs. Ur channel is sick bro
Agreed, he’s gonna be huge soon
Man I agree with you. But I think its deeper than the "Mathew Stafford Lions" that were utter chaos. Because the rot was evident with Barry Sanders too. It was the "William Clay Ford III / Martha Ford Detroit Lions" that were in utter chaos. As soon as Shelia took over, turned them right around. Its almost embarrassing how quickly she fixed things around here.
There was a lot of frustration, but there was also the sense that more often than not, Stafford would do the impossible. Like when Todd Gurley accidentally scored and left time on the clock for Stafford, you had the sense as a fan that the game was in hand, even though he still had to drive the length of the field. The basic blue print was start pretty well, do nothing in the second and third quarters, then steal the game at the end of the 4th. It was always exciting, but it just wasn't a good recipe for sustained success.
Stafford was held back by his own choice. He handicapped that team every contract he signed he demanded more money everytime but never won with only 1 playoff appearance. Notice other SB QBs have a lower average contract so there’s cap room for other good players
Stafford was just a stepping stone
Stafford has always been great!😉👍🥰
I love me some Stafford. Shame the organization was so chaotic.
But got damn do I LOVE me some Goff.
The 2024 Lions are amazing to watch.
The Matthew Stafford era in Detroit was doomed after one mistake. The Lions decision to draft Eric Ebron instead of Odell Beckham Jr or Aaron Donald in 2014. The offense often stagnated when a team had nickel who could keep up with Tate. They didn't have a 3rd option. Odell would have taken pressure off Megatron and would have opened up the field for Tate but they passed and promoted Jeremy Ross from the practice squad who had one good game and was generally worthless. Or they could have picked Suh's replacement with Aaron Donald. And this isn't in hindsight. This was the only logical choice at the time. Even when Erbon was draft Mel Kiper was confused and said I thought they were picking Odell. Check the tape. He literally said it on air.
🙄🙄🙄🙄😩🤔😂 damnnnn bro, you know ball….
Ya happy? Is that what u were looking for?
This why I don’t understand why new Lions fans try to clown Stafford in favor of Goff. Not only was Stafford bettter on a way worse team, he was tougher, and as an inner-city Detroiter he WAS Detroit.
No. Stafford was not a Detroiter. He was from Texas....
@@darkhobo Learn to fucking read
@@darkhobo Lmao we really do live in two different Americas. He's saying that he's speaking as an inner city Detroit resident, Stafford meant more to the city of Detroit than Goff. You just read it too literally.
At no point in the Stafford era was any of his teams worse than that 21 team. Yet goff still had a better rating in thst year than Stafford career at the time.
@@silent1759 Prime Stafford with this team now would be scary. Stafford THEN was way better than Goff NOW. At this point in time Stafford is washed.. Lions traded at the perfect time.
6-10 in 2010 was decent considering they started 2-10.
I'll always respect him for how much he gave this team. Hell, he wanted to come here. Sam Bradford stayed in college an extra year, most assuming to avoid being drafted by Detroit but Stafford wasn't scared of it. I feel the 2014 season playoff loss to Dallas is when doubt about getting it done here probably started to creep into his head. Maybe they still don't win with that penalty but the chance of winning was taken from them.
You should do one on Jared Goff’s renaissance in Detroit. This maybe the best example of a win-win trade in any sport.
Gotta say, I don’t really miss him all that much. Glad he did what he did in LA. But now that Campbell and Holmes have us rolling, on the back of the picks we got from trading Stafford, he’s kind of just a footnote in lions history. Good QB who was pretty bad when it mattered.
WE BRICKED UP BABY
As a Packers fan, I never feared Stafford or the Lions team he lead (I likely did not feel the former mostly because the latter was so generally awful), but I respected the heck out of his toughness and ability and knew that more often than not, it would be no cakewalk to stop him. I did fear Megatron.
Needed this
As a lion lifer I seen some stuff..oh boy..but I was glad to see suh go...so much talent but so much temper and such a selfish player so many personal fouls that killed us..ugh..but I was so dang happy for matt winning the SB the man deserved it
The playoff game against the Cowboys was the most obviously rigged games I've seen.
Also, Stafford is absolutely a HoFer. Best arm of all time, got a ring, and has the stats to back it up
Bro, we ain’t that anymore.
Of course as a lions, fan I believe Stafford is well overdue for HOF talks. But of course as a lions fan, I’m going to boo him when he faces the Lions.
This is the way
Stafford was a good QB, but he was never anywhere near the caliber of Manning and Brady. Brady and Manning were not only clutch, but they were LEADERS who put the team on their backs and set the tone for the whole team not just offensively. The reason he had to come back so much during his time in Detroit, was because his led offenses didn't always get ahead early, but always found themselves behind in the end, that amounted to so many of his empty passing yards. He won't make the team great but he's a great complimentary player.
Calvin Johnson is hands down the best wide receiver of all time. If he was with a better team he’d have broken all records. Somehow the lions have some of the greatest players of all time but never got anywhere with them
@@francisoffilth7953 Sometimes you gotta learn from your mistakes to get the Lions teams we have now!
In the Lions/ Rams Wildcard game, “Detroit did what they do best and held Stafford back” 😂 this dude is funny af
This maker ISNT from Michigan. Michigan ppl loved Stafford from the 1st game and cheered his superbowl victory. We had the best running back and wide receiver of all time and had to see them retire with nothing but our love. We cheered Stafford and his superbowl win..
Now we want our own...
GO LIONS 2025
their OC name was jim bob cooter, like his name was the bad thing about him
They wasted the best QB in franchise history by not building a running game or consistent defense. I’m glad they have it figured out now
You’re insane to say that Stafford was underappreciated. At least if you mean from a fan perspective, because we rolled with that dude and celebrated him winning a damn Super Bowl with a completely different team.
never went underappreciated by fans thats a fact!
Well the cucks did that. I hoped he lost because of all the 12 years of failure that he brought us due to his salary cap and not speaking up as a leader. He let Patricia bully his friends. Fat Patricia…
Nothing more vindicating in my years of watching football then watching my fav qb go from "stat padford" to superbowl champion. He should get a gold jacket for shutting the haters up in one season.
Stafford threw for over 5,000 yards and 40 Tds and still didn't go to the pro bowl. Instead they gave it to Aaron Rodgers, Drew Brees, and Eli Manning. And he wasn't even an alternate.. that was Cam Newton.
Those early 2010s Lions teams had 0 run game and 0 secondary. They made Matt Flynn 26 million dollars. Stafford had to sacrifice his career there to finally break the Bobby Layne curse.
Bruhhhh that was cold at @26:52 😂😭🤣😭🤣😭 detroit did what they do best hold stafford back
Mathew Stafford has 2 seasons of 41 td passes 4.8K+ yards without a pro bowl.
I’d give Stafford hof solely cause of the fact Calvin Johnson wasn’t throwing to himself
Theo Riddiiiiiick!
Brandon Pettigrew used to be on our Xbox friends list during this time.
Matt is my favorite all time Lions quarterback! Imagine if the Lions had a team like they do now for him! GO LIONS!
Rams fan here, I’m legitimately so happy both teams have won the trade
Nope, until Goff wins a super bowl.. Rams won that trade by a mile. The whole point of trading for Stafford was to win a super bowl. Lions haven't won anything with Goff.. They made the playoffs last year but what did that actually do? Nothing yet
Just by pointing out that damn bat I respect you
Noted the face mask too 😢
@@joeyabraham6330 I typically don’t believe in one bad call affecting a game completely but as an outsider the Lions have gotten screwed by bad calls more than anyone else. Idk how Lions fans deal with it.
Thanks to the clueless Ford family, our Lions have been the WORST managed team in pro sports since 1963! Billy Sims, Barry Sanders, Calvin Johnson, and Matthew Stafford were great, but our ownership could NEVER figure out how to field a complete team.
The 2023 season was the best we’ve had since 1957, and they’re looking good for the rest of this season.
GO LIONS!
I’ll admit I was at the Wild Card game vs Rams and boo’ed the shit out of Stafford. I still love him though
Just like with Barry Sanders we never had a defense for him
Or a quarterback save for Scott Mitchell’s 95 season
@@goblue193 I remember a reporter was (supposedly) privately confided in a dinner before that Eagles playoff game he had that they had their doubts he was really ready for the game. Dude got eaten alive.
A 'good' but not 'great' summation of Stafford's career !
If we would have drafted Aaron Donald and not Eric Ebron, then the lions would have won 3 Super Bowls in a row.
Stafford is the best QB in Lions history. Even if Goff wins a Super Bowl and MVP... Stafford will always be the better QB. And until Goff wins a super bowl.. Rams won that trade
They both won the trade
@malrulesall9669 Nah, Lions haven't haven't won anything. The whole point of the trade was for the Rams to win the Super Bowl, and they immediately did. That's why we play the game. It is to win the Super Bowl. Lions didn't do that, Rams did.
Did you see Stafford this week ? Frozen Rope
If you're in the top 10 all time in passing yards and soon to be passing TD's, just based on longevity you should be in the HOF. IMO everyone in that top 10 is a HOFer. The only reason Stafford doesn't have more accolades is because he was playing at the same time as 7 of those guys on that list.
Golden Tate didn't drop kick him. He teabagged him lol
"and being 1 of 13 teams to beat the Browns" is hilarious LOL
26:50 music?
My favorite moment of the video is @16:50.
Jim Bob Cooter is a good OC. He's with the Colts now.
Stafford was inconsistent. He was the best worst qb in the league when he was with the lions. At times he would look superhuman, but then he would also look like a back up qb throwing some of the worst interceptions. Many of Staffords comebacks were from his own turnovers.
I don't think Stafford was a terrible qb, but he wasn't a great qb. You couldn't rely on him to consistently carry your team. If you needed him to march your team down the field one time, you had pretty good faith in him. If you needed him to consistently put the team on his back, he wasn't going to do it.
He now has a super bowl win, but he was on probably the best all around team in the NFL. Yet he still made his bone head mistakes, like the throw to the 49ers in the conference championship (which was somehow dropped). He also had his typical league leading interceptions.
Goff may not be as electrifying as Stafford, but i have much more trust in Goff. He is less likely to throw a game away and is still putting up great stats.
Everyone has been saying "I wish Lions fans would be humble like they used to." When really all they want is for us to be a dumpster fire so they can make fun of us and we can't say anything back
It's not even they want you to be a dumpster fire. It's they want you for some reason to return to being irrelevant. A dumpster fire in New York with the Jets can still be a media circus people sell tickets for (Come one come all, come see the freaks!). Like so long as you're in that 5-9 win window for some reason thats okay with them. I don't get that. Why can't a long suffering fan base be proud of their team?
Also being humble has got them shit all. Campbell came in as HC and proclaimed the need to bite some knee caps, to get the dust (of losing) off their backs. Thats bold, to come in and say your past sucked. Screw it, doesn't matter lets kick some ass. New year new us. I'm hoping they take that to the SB (I wanted them to last year) since my teams resetting.
I love brickwall blitz
If eli manning makes it to the hall stafford definitely should too
It's so bittersweet to look at our team now. I love Goff and if not for the Stafford trade our rebuild wouldn't have been so successful, but just IMAGINE Stafford with our current O-line, defense, and run game....good lord man
@@cojocoolio I see the Stafford era as a stepping stone for better things to come, hope for the first time in a long time in Detroit.
The to biggest mistake the lions made with stafford was firing Caldwell and not drafting Aaron Donald
Besides the Super Bowl season his rams teams have been too
Unfortunately been injured bro all his starters
Censored? You don't belong on on the channel then 🎉
Part of the reason Stafford was upset at Detroit fans was because a bunch of them decided to boo not just him but Kelly AND their children. As a Detroit fan myself that was so uncalled for and embarrassing and i dont blame him for being pissed about it
His wife talks shit about Detroit what did he expect lol I love Stafford and I really hope he’s on good terms when he retires but if him and his wife don’t stop bashing Detroit it’ll never be that way