Toxic Design Jobs To Avoid - Set Boundaries As A Graphic Designer
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2022
- Are there toxic design jobs? in this video I explain which ones are those and how to set boundaries as a designer.
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I have actually been thinking of leaving design altogether. I just started a new job and found out all of creative was laid off. Now all design that came from a 10 person team is resting in 2 peoples shoulders. Corporations always do this and it makes me want to just find another career there all I have to do is fill out a spreadsheet.
Design is not valued enough, in some places more than others though. And design is hard because if you dont find a place where you love the product or the work, you will feel like shit because the work is not fulfilling you.
Happy to see this video and been considering to take a break from a designn
Damn.......my symphaties to those two people.
Thanks for this video because I was considering leaving the profession because it’s too much stress and everyone has opinions on your designs it’s very frustrating.
yes- I said above. people dabble in basic software and think they are designers now.
Occasionally I look around on job sites for Graphic Design listings and they tend to have seemingly unrealistic expectations and even worse requirements. More over, I see this often times for "entry level' Junior Designer positions, even intern/externships wanting 3d(Blender or C4D) and or animation skills. I can only assume the people listing these dont work with or in a Design department. BUT, it gets worse when you read reviews about the companies that reinforce these requirements/preferred skills.
It is rather discouraging to see this, especially when a majority of places actually want someone that meets or exceeds their expectations(probably for as little as they can pay). Granted Ive been learning Design for 6 months now, but crap like this is quite imposter syndrome inducing indeed. At least it makes me feel like I have MUCH further to go or that Ill never get there. I've been told to not bother with these places and to try freelance to supplement a day job or better yet pursue an smaller agency who shares your interests/styles as you said. Im not interested in making bank(stability is nice tho) just doing what I love and am passionate about and to get by doing it. Makes me wonder if AI will take over these corporate "opportunities", as many seem to speculate.
Just screenshoted this, will make a video about your comment here.
@@designthescenes Sweet, very much looking forward to it! Thank you Alex!
they want you to know 5 different hi tech software and that JUNIOR lable is to PAY VERY LOW doing 5 jobs. TOXIC. avoid. BAD SIGN.
FIND your specialty/best work style and don't go for those. The right one is there for you. Keep looking. Or take one you fit with for a while and if see toxic get out. You've learned some new skills.
advertise agencies is like hell whole .
Awesome video, particularly what you said about agencies. I work as a Learning Designer, basically writing/designing/storytelling for educational and learning experiences. I worked in an agency and it was exactly as you described. It was exhausting and I was working until 9 or 10pm every night, just to meet client demands. My work/life balance was a mess and I was barely seeing my girlfriend. Anyway, I got to a point where I found some courage and pushed back to management and said I'm finishing at 5:30pm, full stop. I left a month later, because I could see that everyone around me was completely exhausted and overworked. It's funny, because in my leaving interviews I actually left on good terms because I'm fortunate enough to have a knack for building relationships with people. But I was honest with their issues. I said "we are slaves to our clients, we should be seen as expert problem solvers, not slaves". It's interesting because the leaders I spoke with actually agreed with me, but couldn't find ways to change it.
Good story, setting your boundries is important. Will save your comment for another video ; )
@@designthescenes That’d be awesome! Can’t wait 😃
It ALL COMES DOWN TO BAD MANAGEMENT. Any worthy owner would "reign this in" and get their AD or sales people on the right track. Bad traffic MGRs. Bad leadership that doesn't know process. OVER promising is a creative killer and people leave. ASK in Job Interviews: PROCESS and project turnover expectations.
Unfortunately sometimes Designers have no choice but to put up with toxic clients because it is a paying job/project...I think the point is to either establish yourself as an accomplished Designer so that you can pick & choose your clients and move away from annoying clients/projects...or you learn to establish rules and boundaries early on so that you are not taken advantage of and the client doesn't feel as you will do whatever they say; this is achieved by communicating your terms early on and backing them up with a solid written contract... 😁
well said, totally with you with all the points!
This is 100 percent true. Working in advertisement agencies is all about competitions. Your director will always want to come up with new creative ideas everyday to blow the other agencies away. You will always be tired and frustrated! Word of advise, don't work for a Japanese boss.
Competition is about being mediocre since those agencies or directors are measuring against others. Creating work according to whatever your client is selling is about being effective and business oriented.
Freelancing is BRUTAL, unless you have gained the right clients, and that's hard
Definitely not easy, also location is key to freelance, even though a lot of the work can be remote.
Graphic designers face rejection on daily basis due to work. It’s very hard to not take things personal. is the most exploited modern job! Pay is terrible. Everyone wants to give their last minute changes. I HATE it! I switched to UI/UX, it was NO different
Hi. I want to leave graphic design. I don't like designing anymore. I don't know what should I do next.
I felt this way too
same
Holy shit, same...I mean I've been doing this since 2020 and now I decided to leave that marketing agency cuz of extreme toxicity...maybe UI/UX or Concept Art/Illustration...or even starting a tattoo artist career...any of this would be better than being a graphic designer at a toxic agency....
Basically now they expect you to know the entire Adobe CC Suite, Figma, Sketch, Coding, Illustration, all while you "keep learning" and pay you 50k. Meanwhile the old boys, Gen X Creative Directors with psychology degrees don't have half the skillset or design chops and would be equally screwed if they started now. Also, there are too many cooks in the kitchen. Everyone thinks they know what's right and has a different opinion and you will end up making 10,000 iterations and updates. RUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG- My phrase all the time: too many "wanna be" cooks in the kitchen. a little design knowlefge and everyone is a GD these days.
I'm staying at my roxic job for one day I'd be as good as you in design... you i don't have to tolerate this toxic job anymore.
Thank you so much for this! Do you have any thoughts on what to do if a client is requesting source files?
I’m a social media manager/graphic designer that is currently parting with a client because my rates are now out of their budget. I just received a message from them ‘telling me’ to send over all of the graphic design and video templates I created.
We never had a contract established (not ideal, but I was junior when I first started working with them years ago). I know that I own the copyright to my templates, but I’m afraid that if I don’t send the source files that they will not pay me my monthly rate.
I’m really stumped on what the best course of action is. I really don’t want to sabotage the relationship, but I also feel that I’m being treated unfairly.
Any suggestions on how to deal with a situation like this? Any insights would be extremely appreciated!
If you haven't negotiated the source files at first, then you are in an uncomfortable situation.
1- You can say source files were not part of the contract and if they want them they should pay a small fee.
2-But if they still owe you money and its only about a few templates, I would simply let it go, learn from it and send them the source files this time, or just a few of them not all of them. Say they were not created as a template but as a working file, and just send them one example. Something that doesn't take you time.
If we are talking about a lot of files, then I would say nicely that I will send them once I get my invoices paid so we both can part ways with nothing left behind.
It's annoying, but we all have been through this, in a few years you would be thankful this happened to you, it will likely save you from bigger problems in the future ; )
get a new contract in order for all future work for now on as a professional. Say 2024 new pricing and files initiatives for work performed. @@designthescenes
Another question for you Alex: you said that when you work with agencies as a freelancer you’re very firm that you will finish every day at 6pm. Did you incorporate this into any of your contracts?
Yes, all the time, I make sure they include the day rate includes 8 hours and any hour extra will be charged at 150% (its the standard)
@@designthescenes Great, thanks Alex!
Thank you for making a video about this Alex 😃
Hey there, I am a newcomer on your channel & I really like it, hoping that you will reply to my comment😊, I have 13 years of experience in graphic and UI design and currently I am working as a art director & till now I don't have any mentor in my professional career and now I really feel that you are the one who can guide me well, I won't take your much time, Just want to know at what stage my work stands, what should I do next according to my work. I can share my behance portfolio with you if you allow me.
I don't do private sessions my friend, but welcome the channel and thanks for subscribing!
I finish College in 2019 and still having trouble landing my 1st job, I was promise a design job in the hotel but soon the position was gone and had to wait 5 months to switch, and they stuck me in a janitor, pandemic happen went back to the hotel and promise me the position again unless I work in pools and yea never got the role wasted a year there left that toxic job last spring but jump to retail cause I was aplying everywhere in my town, to then remote and hybrid and still nothing, retail was the only place. 2023 and I wasted another year trap having aplied and doing work for free, family telling me this career is useless since no one hiring and to do something else but I can't go back to College not unless I want to take out loans for yet another career that will flop,
This sucks that people is promising you shit and not giving you a job. You need to create a portfolio with work and send it around, connect with recruiters on linkedin etc. If you dont have a work portfolio that is clear to see the work you can create, its going to be nearly impossible to find a job. I made a video about portfolio tips I invite you to check out
@@designthescenes I tired the whole going around but rarely no one is looking, my protfolio in my channel description, you anything I can inprove, made few things in my site showing a brand I design for a small weed store in Seattle, also have small 2D Animations.
your example is a BAD manager or AD. Over Promising at the expense of their designers. I have over 25 years experience and teach as well. Now that everyone at a corporate office knows Canva and PS elements they all think they are designers. The disrespect and constant defending every design move and justifying basic typography rules, as examples, is exhausting as well as frustrating. Every one thinks they are designers since their kid draws logos. Now with Ai they think you CLICK a button and its done.
Correct this is happening some people make just fun about designing
Is it okay to be just general or have a specific niche?
Generalists are great, I hired most generalists because they can do anything
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