I recall that during my time as a Sefton Borough Councillor (from May 1999) that there were complaints from people living near the coal heaps that it created a lot of black dust and that damping it down became a (public health?) requirement. I noticed a chap wetting the dust in the video so that process must pre-date my knowledge of the issue.
A further fascinating instalment of this industrial odyssey with quadruple class 20's & a 2,450 ton train - superb freight action at the heart of the Port of Liverpool!
Just finished this and part 1. Incredible History on show here Mike. It's like a different world. I suppose we should be grateful that freight still uses the Docks 👍🏻
@@TheMichaelWilcock2016Railways it's very hard to tell. I think its about 1990. Imported coal started at Liverpool for Fiddlers Ferry in 1985. 20s were working these trains up to about 1992 I believe. Why I'm sitting on about 1990 is due to a few overriding factors. 1. The 47 is in RfD sectorisation livery so I believe that brings it closer to 1990 2. The 507/8s are still in BR blue which means It's before 1994/96. 3. The 20s give no real timescale. Most of them in BR blue which most retained until being scrapped/new liveries applied. One of them is in early railfreight grey and yellow with red band which was applied mid 80s probably. Again its hard to pinpoint a date but you would say about 1990 give or take a couple of years back and forth.
I recall that during my time as a Sefton Borough Councillor (from May 1999) that there were complaints from people living near the coal heaps that it created a lot of black dust and that damping it down became a (public health?) requirement. I noticed a chap wetting the dust in the video so that process must pre-date my knowledge of the issue.
Great part 2, I done a lot of the docks with UK Railtours The Olive Branch on 14 April 2012.
A further fascinating instalment of this industrial odyssey with quadruple class 20's & a 2,450 ton train - superb freight action at the heart of the Port of Liverpool!
More Police in that clip than you’ll see in the city center nowadays!
Just finished this and part 1. Incredible History on show here Mike. It's like a different world. I suppose we should be grateful that freight still uses the Docks 👍🏻
Would you have any idea of the year this was recorded?
@@TheMichaelWilcock2016Railways it's very hard to tell. I think its about 1990. Imported coal started at Liverpool for Fiddlers Ferry in 1985. 20s were working these trains up to about 1992 I believe. Why I'm sitting on about 1990 is due to a few overriding factors.
1. The 47 is in RfD sectorisation livery so I believe that brings it closer to 1990
2. The 507/8s are still in BR blue which means It's before 1994/96.
3. The 20s give no real timescale. Most of them in BR blue which most retained until being scrapped/new liveries applied. One of them is in early railfreight grey and yellow with red band which was applied mid 80s probably.
Again its hard to pinpoint a date but you would say about 1990 give or take a couple of years back and forth.
@@benGBRf Many thanks Ben. I was so busy working in Liverpool city centre, I wouln't have had time to take these clips, let alone being in the cabs!!