Spain and Hispanic world’s manton de manila’s predecessor is our panuelo/alampay. It’s from Southeast Asia -it’s in the name. They brought pineapples to the Philippines from South America but the weaving technique used to produce piña fabric is native to the archipelago. And while baro’t saya is “colonial” to several ethnolinguistic groups in the philippines, it is native. The Latin American men’s cultural clothing was influenced by our baro; you can see its similarities with other Southeast Asian men’s cultural wear. (Pre-colonial Philippines was heavily Indianized). Pamaypay was from China, if Im not mistaken.
I have never thought that Philippines was so beautiful. I knew it!! The Philippine tv programs did not feature this. That only feature those foreigners.
I like the idea of the video but this is Spanish colonial Philippines. The fashion doesn’t truly represent the Philippines. We are more than just our Spanish past. We have other cultural fashions which are truly filipino. This is so white washed.
I agree. It does represent the Philippines, but not truly Ph; as you made mention. Would've been nice if they sometimes referred to other precolonial "fashion". We can have the Boxer Codex as a reference too.
Hi Anjela! Thanks so much for bringing this to light; we acknowledge that this represents more so fashion and cultural-wear relating to Spanish-influenced attire. The reason being is that we did not feel as though our team were the right people to be taking Indigenous wear and incorporating it into American fashion or using it to represent "Filipino" fashion when it needs to be acknowledged deeply what people it comes from and how those groups are still using this wear today. In the future, we do hope to partner with an Indigenous group or fashion designer that can truly represent such a concept, but in the meantime, we want to remain respectful and so this is how we navigated this concept. Again, thanks so much for your feedback!
@@onedownmedia it’s because Filipinos suffer from colonial mentality. You want to be Latino, Mexican, Hawaiian, Pacific Islanders, Japanese, Koreans literally anything but yourselves.
@@onedownmedia You can start by checking Jearson Demavivas’ works - Catriona’s designer whose expertise is utilizing weaves and textiles from Ethnic and indigenous groups particularly T’nalak of T’boli
Hello! In regards to the "Maria Clara dance", I don't think I've ever heard of that before? Maybe you were referring to the "Carinosa" or maybe ur just referring to it as "a dance where Maria Clara is worn"? idk lol And another thing, a lot of people in the historical costuming community now in the Philippines does not really like to prefer to the traditional Filipina clothing as "Maria Clara", since..: 1) No one in the time period where they were actually worn ever called them that. The term was coined in the 1970s afaik, which was a time when the Filipina traditional clothing have already virtually felt out of use as daily wear. And that "Maria Clara" as a standard depiction of "how Filipinas should be" is already deemed as inappropriate, since Jose Rizal originally intended to depict the character as a form of criticism to societal views and expectations about women during his time, and NOT for her to become the "Standard Filipina" that women should look up to then and even today, which the Philippine education system wrongly propagated. 2) There are actual historical terms for the clothing of the time. "Baro't Saya" could've been a better term used, since it is the general term for any clothing that comprises of the Baro (top) and the Saya (skirt). "Traje de Mestiza" (Mestiza dress) could also be used when referring to the photos you've shown, although it is more specifically associated to the Baro't Saya worn by the Principalia class during the Spanish colonial period, up until the development of the Butterfly sleeves in the American period. The terms "Balintawak" (countryside ver. of the Traje de Mestiza) and "Terno" (the Traje de Mestiza of the 1920's onwards, which featured matching patterns in the Baro/Camisa, Panuelo, and Saya) also emerged during this time.
The pamaypay should be more classy, not made of bamboo. Mixing something from the commoner's side to the elite side doesn't look good. But the concept is good. Just avoid the Spanish influenced attires. There may not br a Philippines before Spain but there certainly was a Lu'song, Virjaya and Mindanao.
You seriously feeding all the people MISINFORMATION. The American Fashion was Filipinized right from the start of 1900s as American failed to make us wear their Gibson and Edwardian dresses because, we only copied the fashion silhouette not their own dress so, your 1920-40s Filipinizing the American Fashion is a hot garbage, Filipinas used the Traje de Mestiza by adapting the (American)Hollywood fashion of 20-30s. Those photos from 1930s you've shown, those already are American fashion turned Filipino. BTW and FYI the Salacot/Salakot weren't only wore by the farmers but, it was worn by different kinds of people from the different walks of life plus, the Manton de Manila is derived from the Panuelo, those are two different things but we're both worn from Spanish era and wearing kercheifs and shawls originize from prehispanic era. You better dig deeper into Historical fashion before you say something that is abomination.
@@onedownmedia Your UNNECESSARY Americanized pronunciation of Tagalog words is so DISGUSTING. SHAME ON YOU! American pronunciation for English words. Tagalog pronunciation for Tagalog words. So simple. Only idiots do otherwise. 🙄
This is very cool how our traditional outfits could be modernized, wish we could promote more of our own cultural artifacts in our society
Spain and Hispanic world’s manton de manila’s predecessor is our panuelo/alampay. It’s from Southeast Asia -it’s in the name. They brought pineapples to the Philippines from South America but the weaving technique used to produce piña fabric is native to the archipelago. And while baro’t saya is “colonial” to several ethnolinguistic groups in the philippines, it is native. The Latin American men’s cultural clothing was influenced by our baro; you can see its similarities with other Southeast Asian men’s cultural wear. (Pre-colonial Philippines was heavily Indianized). Pamaypay was from China, if Im not mistaken.
Thanks for the 3:45 cameo. Representing Philippine Performing Arts Company, Tampa, Florida..😊
I have never thought that Philippines was so beautiful. I knew it!! The Philippine tv programs did not feature this. That only feature those foreigners.
Love it 💕
I like the idea of the video but this is Spanish colonial Philippines. The fashion doesn’t truly represent the Philippines. We are more than just our Spanish past. We have other cultural fashions which are truly filipino. This is so white washed.
I agree. It does represent the Philippines, but not truly Ph; as you made mention. Would've been nice if they sometimes referred to other precolonial "fashion". We can have the Boxer Codex as a reference too.
Hi Anjela! Thanks so much for bringing this to light; we acknowledge that this represents more so fashion and cultural-wear relating to Spanish-influenced attire. The reason being is that we did not feel as though our team were the right people to be taking Indigenous wear and incorporating it into American fashion or using it to represent "Filipino" fashion when it needs to be acknowledged deeply what people it comes from and how those groups are still using this wear today. In the future, we do hope to partner with an Indigenous group or fashion designer that can truly represent such a concept, but in the meantime, we want to remain respectful and so this is how we navigated this concept. Again, thanks so much for your feedback!
@@onedownmedia it’s because Filipinos suffer from colonial mentality. You want to be Latino, Mexican, Hawaiian, Pacific Islanders, Japanese, Koreans literally anything but yourselves.
@@onedownmedia You can start by checking Jearson Demavivas’ works - Catriona’s designer whose expertise is utilizing weaves and textiles from Ethnic and indigenous groups particularly T’nalak of T’boli
@@telltruth7027 do we have statistics or empirical data on this?
Hello! In regards to the "Maria Clara dance", I don't think I've ever heard of that before? Maybe you were referring to the "Carinosa" or maybe ur just referring to it as "a dance where Maria Clara is worn"? idk lol And another thing, a lot of people in the historical costuming community now in the Philippines does not really like to prefer to the traditional Filipina clothing as "Maria Clara", since..:
1) No one in the time period where they were actually worn ever called them that. The term was coined in the 1970s afaik, which was a time when the Filipina traditional clothing have already virtually felt out of use as daily wear. And that "Maria Clara" as a standard depiction of "how Filipinas should be" is already deemed as inappropriate, since Jose Rizal originally intended to depict the character as a form of criticism to societal views and expectations about women during his time, and NOT for her to become the "Standard Filipina" that women should look up to then and even today, which the Philippine education system wrongly propagated.
2) There are actual historical terms for the clothing of the time. "Baro't Saya" could've been a better term used, since it is the general term for any clothing that comprises of the Baro (top) and the Saya (skirt). "Traje de Mestiza" (Mestiza dress) could also be used when referring to the photos you've shown, although it is more specifically associated to the Baro't Saya worn by the Principalia class during the Spanish colonial period, up until the development of the Butterfly sleeves in the American period. The terms "Balintawak" (countryside ver. of the Traje de Mestiza) and "Terno" (the Traje de Mestiza of the 1920's onwards, which featured matching patterns in the Baro/Camisa, Panuelo, and Saya) also emerged during this time.
The pamaypay should be more classy, not made of bamboo. Mixing something from the commoner's side to the elite side doesn't look good. But the concept is good. Just avoid the Spanish influenced attires. There may not br a Philippines before Spain but there certainly was a Lu'song, Virjaya and Mindanao.
You seriously feeding all the people MISINFORMATION.
The American Fashion was Filipinized right from the start of 1900s as American failed to make us wear their Gibson and Edwardian dresses because, we only copied the fashion silhouette not their own dress so, your 1920-40s Filipinizing the American Fashion is a hot garbage, Filipinas used the Traje de Mestiza by adapting the (American)Hollywood fashion of 20-30s. Those photos from 1930s you've shown, those already are American fashion turned Filipino. BTW and FYI the Salacot/Salakot weren't only wore by the farmers but, it was worn by different kinds of people from the different walks of life plus, the Manton de Manila is derived from the Panuelo, those are two different things but we're both worn from Spanish era and wearing kercheifs and shawls originize from prehispanic era.
You better dig deeper into Historical fashion before you say something that is abomination.
yaaaaas
In a time when women's bodies where used to sell products.
Uhh.....
Should I be the one to tell them that they still do?
oops 0_o you're not wrong - that line describes the time when it started.
@@onedownmedia that's not even the time it all started...
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Filipinas dont have to wear anything to look beautiful😊
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@@onedownmedia Your UNNECESSARY Americanized pronunciation of Tagalog words is so DISGUSTING. SHAME ON YOU!
American pronunciation for English words. Tagalog pronunciation for Tagalog words. So simple. Only idiots do otherwise. 🙄