Can A Kubota Push Snow Without Chains Let Us See
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- Today's video showcases the Kubota MX5400 pushing virgin snow to the side of the road. Well it was only 'virgin' snow for the first pass, after that it was the same nasty white stuff that guys like me dislike. I have not taken the time to fit the new Kubota with a set of chains so I didn't really know what to expect. Virtually every interaction I've had with tractors and snow in the last 40 years involved a makeshift set of adapted chains for whatever tractor was being used for the removal process. Did I mention that I HATE snow. Yeah, to me its the worst of the four letter words in the English language that won't get you roasted for eternity for saying out loud....but it should be. Just name one good thing snow is good for. Ok, all I can think of is frostbite and that ain't a good thing, so there. That proves there IS nothing good about snow. Ok, if you're a downhill skier it'd be hard to do without snow. Also I guess the Iditarod would be a bit different running through wheat fields. Ok, ok snowmobiles MIGHT be a little fun....I'll give ya that. But cross country skiing....Johnny Paycheck says it best...."Take those skis and shove 'em"...or something like that anyway. One other thing that might be nice is watching the grandkids build a snow man. But that's about it !! But then it is kinda nice seeing ladies run outside in bikinis and make snow angels on youtube so maybe snow ain't so bad after all.....Yeah, I LIKE snow. #kubota, #snow, #snowplow
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Now this video, I understood everything you said about the type of snow, air temperature, tires, and weight in the back. Glad you have the snow and not me; at least for today.
Hi Wendell. A well ballasted 4wd tractor can indeed push a lot of snow. A problem with pushing with a material bucket is that the snow tends to pile up in front until it overflows. Lots of guys in my area use snow pushers... better yet if the pusher is articulated and has hydraulics so that one can control the discharge flow. I find material buckets to be useful for backdragging early in the season when it has snowed, but the ground is not yet frozen, as if I can establish a base, I'm less likely to tear stuff up.
Bring your tractor to northern Canada and help me on my road to the cottage 2 miles to maintain . I have turf tires on my 30 hp John Deere with a front snowblower which works great. We get a bit more snow up here and my wife like this type of work. With are cold weather our snow is not as slippery like yours. Always nice watching your videos
Now that's a LOT of roadway to maintain. You need my Allis Chalmers Motor Patrol grader tractor for that !! I'm surprised turf tires do that good of a job. Of course the condition of the snow changes the traction ability of the tractor too.
@ turf tires are more flexible or softer rubber and conform to the lay of the land better. The law in this part Canada forces us to put winter tires on , and if you check the rubber is more flexible and adhere to the road much better in cold weather in return if you keep your winter tires on during the warm seasons your tires will wear down very quickly. My property is very sandy and the turf tires preform well all season
@@richardjacques6370 Thanks for the awesome explanation Richard. Now I understand the turf tire traction better. We too have winter tire laws for the road and if a person becomes unable to move with non-winter tires in a municipality they are subject to a fine.
I used to just have a snow bucket on my WD45 Allis. Even with fluid in the rears, picking up a bucket full of wet snow took 75% of the traction away from my tires.
I would just trip the bucket and doze. When I got off the path I could raise it up and pile snow up if needed without scooping it.
My good neighbor that I run combine for, comes by with his heated cabed skid loader now days.
We haven't had enough snow to plow yet this season here in NW Illinois.
I can see how that would be really helpful to use. A fella doesn't realize just how much weight is in a load of snow that's that big. Joe LaSage (From Steel to Wood) used to pile a huge pile in a similar fashion. He'd take bets on what day of what month the big pile would finally be gone.
Well, Tractorman, I found out this evening how slick my road is with the new snow. Took my John Deere with front wheel assist and weights and almost didn't make it back to the pole barn with it !! Lol
Hahahaha...you can always call the neighbor up the road a ways to come rescue that green machine with an orange one !! LOL. Can you tell me you might need chains without telling me you might need chains......??
@tractorman4461 Yes, sir!! Lol! I need to buy a set but they're not cheap!
@@ChrisCampbell-k3i I recently bought a set for 14-9 x 28's at a yard sale cheap. They are a bit narrow, but I can extend the lengths of the cross chains to fit these much larger tires on the 5400 pretty easily. I've done it on several other sets in the past. My SIL just ordered a set for his L3301 last week. Ouch !!
That was one heck of a snow storm we got. They close work for a couple days.
Yeah, it was a bit of a surprise wasn't it. Don't mean to rub it in, but retirement is really quite nice right about now. LOL
I worked from last Saturday to this Saturday. Was doing 10hr shifts to plow this snow, what a mess! 🥶😭
WOW !! I don't know if I'm happy for you or sad for you Zane...LOL. On one hand its a good paycheck and on the other hand....well heck you're still a young guy and can handle it !!LOL. It warmed up and melted a bit today down here.
At our old place up north, I used an old Case 310 dozer to move snow. It did a great job.
Well I used my little Massey Ferguson 2244 highlift a little for it as well. I didn't prefer it but I'm betting the Ford New Holland skid steer would be killer. That's what this bucket is off of.
Another good one, thanks.
Thanks Tony for watching....I was wondering if you guys up there snuck by without getting hit with any of the bad weather.
Good job bud you have more snow than we have don't have enough here to go snowshoeing we had lots here until after Christmas was +12 Celsius and rain that took all the snow but we will have lots more before winter is over take care and enjoy that nice orange tractor have a great weekend
This is the most we've gotten in a couple years if I'm remembering right. I don't mind though Tom. As I've said a number of times before i ain't a snow lover !! LOL
Hi Wendell Happy New Year . Yes plenty of snow in rural Ontario. I use a jd 710 with rear chains and loaded tires with bucket .The snow is heavy at times to clean not much frost in ground
Good morning Bob. Good to hear from you today. I know you guys up there love the snow. I guess you have to don't ya. LOL. We get heavy wet snow occasionally and other times is light and fluffy. Ours usually don't hang around too long though. However, it's been a week or better and my driveway is still 50% ice packed. Oh well, July will be here shortly !! Take care, my friend. Stay warm today. We have 5*F (-15C) this morning.
I heard you got pounded down your way. We have less snow in southern Minnesota. Thank you Wendell.
Yeah, we were right at the bottom of the red band they were showing in the winter storm videos. I spent one part of the afternoon attaching a tent to the house shedding my 15kw ONAN generator from the elements. I usually have to dig out of snow and ice to fire it up because THAT's usually when we lose power. It's perfectly clear under the tarp too. And fortunately I did NOT have to fire it up!!
hi there good show in the snow best to all john
Hey John....yeah it was fun to play in the snow and not really have to worry about anything this time.
Been plowing my driveway for years with nothing but my little B7500 running R1 tires front and rear. Works fine up here in far NE Washington state.
Well what ever you have to do the job is the best tool for the job I'd say. I moved tons of snow and gravel too with my old B7100 back in the day. They, like your 7500 are just plain beasts in a small size !!
Nice to see the Kubota out in the snow we've had a bit of snow here in Southeast Canada lately did getvthe old OC4 Oliver Crawler out snow plowing the other day check it out... thanks for sharing there eh!
That's cool. I'll need to swing by and look at the OC snow video. I usually move snow with the
Allis Chalmers Speed Patrol grader. But its currently down for a rear wheel issue. I'd love to have one of the older OC's. I almost had a Cletrac though and did have a little JD crawler and recently sold a MF 2244 crawler with a Drott loader.
Cool video T man. I love playing in the snow. I have that same style bucket. Works great for plowing snow. I also have an 8 foot scraper blade. I don’t have chains. My driveway is uphill to get out. I drive up and turn around and plow down. My tractor weighs around 7000 pounds. It does really well in the snow.
Heck yeah, I see how plowing down is the way to go in your case for sure. I have a huge snow plow off a truck way down in the woods that I've always thought I'd make the changes to fit the front end of one of the loader tractors. I still might get around to it one of these days. I usually run chains on several tractors year round. The Allis Speed Patrol, a Massey 44 and one of the smaller Kubotas. I need to piece together a set for this MX5400 too.
Good morning Wendell
Good Afternoon Gary. And a good time was had by all !! I bet you guys didn't get much with this storm, or did ya...??
Glad you had fun.a video on making a chain up for that tractor would be interesting.
It was a fun time using the loader for the first time schooching snow off the road Mike. If I DO ever make a set of chains, there will for sure be a video on it. Just too many projects in the way.
I thought that I wanted those industrial tires when I got my L2501.
My dealer wasn’t long telling me that I didn’t
He said for my application, I wouldn’t be happy with them
I have the R1’s ( ag tires ) and it does an amazing job in the snow
Although this winter, we don’t have any snow to contend with
Not a bit
Very unusual
Yeah, I saw you guys appeared to be just north of the red band on the weather channel. We were just in the lower portion of it. I like the R4's because of the wider treads. With all the sharp rocks down off the hillsides, I figured there'd be less chance of.a puncture than with the R1's. Just my thought though. R1's definitely give superior traction though.
We started with a base of at least 2 inches of ice, then the 2 plus inches of mixed stuff, and then top it off with about 5 inches of new snow yesterday. So, without chains, even 4WD isn't getting any traction on this stuff. I can blade off the snow but when the tires get to the ice layer, it ain't going anywhere unless I pull up the blade.
Hahahaha....yeah buddy, you just described my driveway !! Luckily it was just moist enough for good traction with all the weight on the back.
LOL, I guess watching snow angels on youtube is a way to enjoy it. I've never used chains. New tires make a big difference. I was having trouble one year maintaining traction. The next year I had new tires and they made a huge difference. Probably didn't help that the old tires were over 40 years old. I use Ag tires and not the R4s. I use a '40 Farmall "H" with filled tires and two 55 gallon drums on the back filled with water. The plow is 7' white oak 2x12s and they do a good job of floating over the dirt driveways on the farm. I love snow and plowing it but, we don't get much of it here anymore. The Missus needs a drone to film you and keep an eye on you. 😂😂😂
Weight on the rear make a huge difference in traction for sure. I like the idea of the oak sawmill lumber for a blade. Nice. I wanted the Missus to come out but I'd really hate it if she'd slipped and fell. You know...maybe she COULD have stayed in the living room and run a drone. Hmmmmm....
@@tractorman4461 Yeah, we've always used wood for the plow around the farm. The plow is two 2x12s on the bottom and one on top giving it enough weight to hold it down when pushing snow. I think the Missus would love to sit next to the fireplace with a drone controller! Of course you know that with that she could find you no matter where you tried to hide on the property!!! 😂😂😂
@@1lilfarm )-: now THAT would be a problem on occasion....LOL
I've found, over the years, that the snow condition has just about everything to do with how much grip your vehicle can get when plowing.
Here where I am Wendell, with ballasted tires and industrial tread tires I can plow 99.9% of our snowfalls. I'm using ( currently ) a Kioti CK20S 4 wheel drive ( of course) and my tractor has a 6.5 foot wide non-angling snowplow on the front loader and at the rear I am using 60 inch die snow blower, up hills down hills and of the flats., all this without tire chains.
Now most other guys I watch on You Tube use tire chains, 'Grampies Workshop, and RCAFpolarexpress use chains. But their snow is (perhaps) mostly what we call 'dry snow'.
Without being long winded on this, suffice to say, "to each his own" in this activity, and I think we all enjoy plowing this white stuff.
So far this year, in my area mind you, I haven't seen enough snow on the ground to make a snow ball, the other folks have had a few storms that they;'ve been plowing in.
Enjoy the winter but stay warm and dry.
I remember one of the first things we talked about was your Kioti and if it'd run a buzz saw or not. Remember that Reg, about what, 4 maybe 5 years ago..?? Also remember Joe LaSage, Dave@RCAFPolarExpress' buddy ? He runs chains as well on either his Bolens or one of the 430 Case tractors. You reminded me, I should stop by Mike over at his workshop again...I've been so busy I've been getting further and further behind in watching the normal channels I follow.
But yes, you are correct...whatever works the best for a fella is the way to go. But I kinda HAD to go this route today with the Speed Patrol still out of the picture waiting on a rear rim and the two blades are at the sons house and the sil's house. LOL Ain't that something.
@@tractorman4461 Yessir, I did enjoy watching Joe while he was making all kinds of really interesting stuff. Joe has changed the name of his channel now, it is
'From Steel to Wood' but he hasn't had much on TH-cam these days,. .like all of us, life 's routine's cause one to take other paths doesn't it.
Gosh, has it been that long,... four or five years,.... but then I so enjoy watching your videos, and Dave's and Mikes' etc. etc. I have kind of given up on a Buzzsaw, and gone opn to other things too.
Stay well Wendell and every now and then, send along a video, I'm here to watch and listen,... , "God willing and the weather",
@@regsparkes6507 Yes, Joe's life changed greatly when they relocated to his FIL's property didn't it. I watched quite a few during and a few more after the relocation and realized he really IS a busy busy man !! Life is good though.
@@tractorman4461 Can`t find fault with that, it sure is.
My tractor has 800lb counter ballast I made myself and loaded tires. Also a homemade snow bucket made from an old oil tank it's a 1.5 yard scoop
Ballast and weighted tires make all the difference in traction for sure !! Chains are a big help also in mud and snow/ice too.
you say you don't use a bucket for plowing snow and yet here you are........put the blade on!
Hahahaha...well usually I put the Allis Chalmers Road Patrol to work but it's down for needing a rear rim repair or replacement for now. th-cam.com/video/dlwd9DzWGlk/w-d-xo.html One of my blades is a few miles down the road at my son's house on another tractor and the other blade is at my SIL's house. So I was kinda needing to use the loader this time.
Good morning and Happy New Year T! Interested in your approach ( maybe a future video when you get snow again). How do you stop from digging up gravel doing that? I notice you have no shoes under the bucket. My driveway has lots of undulations and hills and on flatter spots I don't do terrible but as soon as I approach an undulation the bucket digs into the gravel as the ground is higher. I leave it in float but I still tend to dig more gravel than snow sometimes. LOL. Say hi to the Missus and all. Cheers!
Good Evening GP. Luckily this snow was predated a few days by an inch of sleet and three inches of snow on top which has been turned to ice. That made the perfect base for allowing the smooth bucket to slide smoothly over the surface missing the gravel. Plus we don't have that sub terrain like you guys have up there that heave stone upward creating those swells. Oh there's the occasional stone, but nothing like you guys have at all !!
I think a different type of snow would cause more gravel exposure by grading in this manner. But as with everything you have to adapt technique to the conditions. Sometimes it works well, sometimes not so well. The Missus wishes the best for you and Carol. Take care GP. Oh...I seldom use the float position, but I've got my hand on the control valve continually to adjust bucket angle.
@@tractorman4461 Thanks T!
Good Evening Sir Wendell ! Very Nice Snow that should keep the snakes away or frozen !!! ( Yeah, to me its the worst of the four letter words in the English language that won't get you roasted for eternity for saying out loud....but it should be.) LOL !!! ( But that's about it !! But then it is kinda nice seeing ladies run outside in bikinis and make snow angels on youtube so maybe snow ain't so bad after all.....Yeah, I LIKE snow.) LOL !!! 1500 lbs !!! keep Warm Mon Ami Cheers !!!
Hahahaha....oh Dave, I DO enjoy your comments mon ami !! But you can still keep all the snow up that way if you would. LOL
Well Wendell we got 8" of snow and that's a lot for southern Oklahoma. The most in around 10 years. I missed The Missus but we don't want her OR YOU to fall in the snow
She actually was irritated that I didn't ask her to come out. But dang I'd feel bad if she slipped and fell. 8" in Oklahoma...?? WOW, that IS a lot for you guys.
You all seem to get more snow than we do? That little tractor is great. I was hoping that the Terrible Terraplane we have would run and do similat. I suppose the Chinese Dong Feng isnt anywhere a good as your Kubota?
Well Randy, with a 1500 pound counterweight AND fluid filled rears, it can really move some stuff !! The big thing with snow is traction. If your wheel spins any at all it created a nice little square patch of ice right under the tire. Chains are the answer to that then.
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One day closer to spring Garry !!
I plowed about a foot of snow last winter with my Kubota BX2680....rather pulled it with the 5 foot rear blade...did fine, no chains, probably should get some, just haven't done so, don't use the tractor often enough in the winter to really need the snow removal equipment or chains.
I've ran chains on several tractors year round. They help in mud or snow and even on hillsides in thick wet leaves and exposed rock too.
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