Frank Skinner on being Catholic and a comedian
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- Frank Skinner is a comedian, broadcaster and author who has entertained millions through TV shows such as Fantasy Football League, The Frank Skinner Show, Baddiel and Skinner Unplanned and Room 101, as well as many sell-out stand-up comedy tours. Frank’s love of comedy is surpassed only by his love of football. He is a lifelong supporter of West Bromwich Albion and, with David Baddiel and the Lightning Seeds, penned ’Three Lions' the best known football anthem of modern times.
But Frank’s other great love is his Catholic faith, something he reconnected with after initially trying to walk away from it in his early twenties. In 2021 he wrote A Comedian's Prayer Book which featured his thoughts on hell, judgement, atheism, money, faith and the X-Men among other things. But how does a comedian square edgy and sometimes crude standup routines with churchgoing and confession? Isn’t faith just very unfashionable in the comedy circuit? Or are comedians trying to fill a God-shaped hole along with everyone else?
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Frank is a genuine man,and loved by many xxx
A thoroughly interesting conversation, as a fellow Catholic, I appreciated where Frank Skinner is coming from :)
Me too! I'm a huge fan! I love that Frank is so open and honest about his faith!
@@Art_Tibisolum Absolutely, you don't have to push it down other people's throats but as he said in the interview from him attending an FE for resits and the question of "Anybody believe in God ?" Having not responded, he learned to "put his hand up" in the future, honest chap.
I forgot how much I liked Frank Skinner. Always used to be a treat catching him on TV, and especially nice to catch him on here talking about Christianity,
Catholicism...different subject.
Catholicism is the largest church in Christianity.
I love Frank skinner, love his stand up, and his poetry podcasts, looking forward to reading his prayer book
Really sad he won't be on radio any more 😢
A Comedian's Prayer Book is very good. Speaking of poetry, please let me share this very short poem I wrote that was published in the Catholic weekly The Tablet, 'Sign': 'I don't need a / spinning sun/ moving statue/ or parting sea:/ Lord, a strawberry/ is enough for me'. Thank you and God bless!
Have you seen The Chosen? I loved that they included some humour and as Frank says... you can't have a bunch of guys hanging out for so long without jokes coming out :)
I love Frank. He’s been part of my life as a kid with Fantasy Football and to now as a Catholic convert. I also cannot stand it when people blaspheme around me but also choose to let it go. It’s comforting in a weird way to hear another Catholic talk about that experience.
Love Frank , my views of the world are as one with Frank and i dont think I've ever read a funnier book than his autobiography .
I love Frank and I'm gutted his radio show is ending. However, I was brought up a Catholic and my 'Brave Stance' was at 9 years old when I told my class and teacher that I was an Atheist when I didn't even know the word. The teacher then tried to shame me by trying to turn the class against me, and also asking to imagine what it was going to be like in hell because I don't believe in God. She was unsuccessful and I am proud of myself looking back on it, a brave stance for a 9 year old. Oh yes... His Poetry Podcast is fantastic also.
Awesome dialogue
Great stuff
I do like Frank Skinner. I’m a catholic too and I get where he’s coming from.
Love Frank!
Frank is great,
my opinion is that the Catholic church has long standing some of the most original and best Christian doctrine. BUT the corruption of the priesthood has always been the main worry, and i think still deters most Christians from supporting the Roman Catholic church. well done to Frank for holding on to his Catholic faith.
Priests are men. All are sinners. Some are unrepentant sinners but most are beautiful holy men that lead others to Christ.
There is some conjecture that the corruption in the priesthood may in fact be traced back to the plague. The fact that priests suffered disproportionatly higher deaths during that period due to being in contact with victims to whom they gave the last rites, the entry standards were relaxed in order to make up the numbers.
27:13 I had to hold back the tears ...
Love Frank. Didn't know he was a practicing Catholic, quite surprising.
Religion has ample material for comedy.
It's begging to be made fun of.
It's strange hearing someone talking about Christian and yet saying that the modern day acceptance of homosexuality is a moral advance, the two things are mutually exclusive. Also claiming that different religions are praying to the same God is totally contradicted by Jesus Himself Who said He was the only way to Heaven.
Yes indeed, which is why we need to follow the evidence to determine what is true.@@donaldjuan4934
Jesus was the Messiah and he was a messenger for his time, just like Moses was for his time and Abraham for his! Muslims, believe that Mohammed was a messenger for his time.
To believe in the one God is fundamental to worship. We cannot pray to Jesus as a deity or worship any other idols such as saints which the Catholic religion would have you believe are worthy of reverence? What is the first commandment in the Bible Exodus? I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage. You shall have no other gods before me.
@@christianblake3997 Jesus and God are one (along with the Holy Spirit), the Bible says that Jesus was in the beginning and that all things were made through Him. Jesus Himself said that nobody can come to God except through Him (I agree that we cannot worship any idols or saints as the Catholic church believes, that is not scriptural), He is not simply a messenger, He is one with God and is completely Holy, that is why He died for us so that we could have His righteousness and be able to spend time with a Holy God. There is no other way to Heaven except through Jesus and His sacrifice for us.
Love the content but the image composition does not adhere to the rule of thirds
Frank skinner is a man of biblical contradictions - on the one hand he believes the church is too nice and needs to be more like St Paul to assert itself in a secular world, on the other hand advocating the church should deviate from the bible on issues such as transgender, marriage etc - St Paul had a very different view on homosexuality
Interesting conversation none the less, particularly for christians who don’t hear views beyond their bible study group or church
I think Frank was applying shock tactics here to see the reaction of the interviewer’s -
On the question of leaving the Church, I find it very irritating to hear actors or comedians say, I was brought up a Catholic but ... I feel they mean But I'm too clever to believe all that now.
Or perhaps they've seen the light.
I loved Frank's take on embracing the shocking, mysterious, fascinating parts of Catholicism. He is so right about that. Banal Christianity is a contradiction in terms.
I enjoyed this alot. I liked the fact that I agreed with some of what Frank said and a few fundemntals I didn't and a few things to highlight regarding interpretations and struggle between post modernistic type views regarding gender, structures and deviation from source material with a mindset that as a religion it needs to compromise and move with times so to speak. I disagreed with frank in regard to there is a fundermental structure in place for a reason, the truth and God is a blueprint for a successful life. We are all sinner by default and why he died for our sins. I think we're I disagreed with how frank explained it was that marriage is the joining of two people out of love, a commitment to be there through life and all the challenges it brings. Its there to platform the bringing of new life in children as a family. I think science and man has confused and muddied the waters and because we now have woman having children for couples who cant it then asks us a difficult question. If God is the creator and he gave us science isn't the practice then more acceptable? We also have to understand why do we bring a child into this world for us as a couple,? Being a parent is sacrifice and the world becomes about them, if your doing it for self serving reasons thats the wrong place to start.God has given us many opportunities to be able to do many things, some good for us some not and perhaps we should be asking just because we can, should we? If you consider making a family and family it means to create somthing long term and good, if it's sex for quick dopamine with no meaningful connection tion the end is empty. My point being that the plan and blueprint is there. It does not evolve to suit society if its the truth than people will come to it which is why u see people who have had difficult lives wrong choices building their relationship with God and there own self. What we can be as believers is forging and compassionate with humility. The religion is not there to dehumanise or osterisize anyone, that's the very people it's there for as by the very nature of all our sins and faults, we dont deviate but have compassion in the delivery. His word is in us in our own conscious of an awareness of somthing greater thsn ourselves. I also don't agree with the other gentlemen, yes God is the truth but the moment u demean someone else's connection through God if they are another religion is the moment u allow your own ego in. The truth and word of God is enough and that confidence is actually knowing he is with u means you don't need to fight to get someone to listen. They will come.u can't force morality through law, u can't make someone see, u have to know darkness to build relationship with the light
David Baddiel has been so harsh on Frank and his faith. Says it's all based on a fear of hell. Of course we are all worried about what comes after but for me it's about making the most of life while we are here. John 10:10 sums it perfectly "The thief cometh not but to steal and to kill and to destroy. I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly."
I love Frank from his radio show and, as an atheist, I've never found his material on Catholicism perturbing. My only issue with his (and the hosts) presentation of religion and catholicism here is that in the UK we're within a generation or two of religion maintaining its multi-millennia oppressive and damaging grip on society. Most of the world still lives under this form of oppression. In America, atheism continues to be career Hari- Kari for politicians. An interesting conversation, but some of the points feel like a stretch.
I envy atheists in their keen sense of conviction, believers wrestle with doubt.
Except that fanatics are always harbouring secret doubts... they just can't admit them.
Always loved Frank I'm glad he has a faith but I don't recognise it as Christian, Liberal Catholic filter perhaps, (Personal opinion).
That sounds like a "no true scotsman" sort of view. Any Catholic, liberal or otherwise, is a Christian even if they have views you disagree with.
@@Eilfylijokul If you say so, mine was a personal opinion, your tone sounds more authoritative, so I bow to your greater knowledge.
How could someone who believes Jesus is God not be a Christian?
@@IosefDzhugashvili Not believing Jesus when He said He is the only way to the Father?
@@IosefDzhugashvili I didn't say he wasn't a Christian.
I remember watching Baddiel and Skinner and they were laughing like school boys as they called a Dutch footballer “Ugly” that really put me off both of them. They’re not exactly Clooney and Pitt themselves. So when l hear that he’s a Christian it somehow makes it worse and yet he hates someone saying “Jesus Christ” but believes we were all born perfect 😂
When l was about ten years old my parents had the TV on and l was in another room but l heard there had been an horrific motorway accident- it was icy on the roads and there was a thick fog came down and tragically 19 people lost their lives in the resulting pile up. A “man of the cloth” came on and said he knew a couple who had lost their lives. He said they were lovely people, regular church goers (neither of which l dispute) and then he said “I keep thinking why them?” 😮 Why Anyone? That put me off religion if that’s how their minds work.
The thing about religions is that they require people- and people aren't perfect. They come in all shapes and sizes, have merits and flaws to one degree or another, the idea that people with faith have to be perfect in order to be considered to be truly faithful is strange. Frank isn't "pius", he's absolutely aware of his flaws and can talk quite honestly about them. I'd argue that he's more authentic than many of the Aethists who pretend to be moral, upstanding people to make themselves look good...
Woke/pro-LGBT-ideology is not Catholicism. It's heresy, & it's terribly destructive to human beings, especially children. I hope Frank can take the time to learn Catholic theology and morality on this subject. It's very important for his soul and for the Church. May God bless him, all the viewers here, and all of your loved ones.
Woke/LGBT ideology is certainly not Catholicism 100% correct. Yet (ironically) the changes made to inheritance and marital law in 6th Century Europe created the modern world and lead to Western Pre-eminance. This then leads to the Protestant Reformation in early Modernity - and the Woke values we have today in the West... no accident they didn't come from Saudi Arabia. You can read more in "The WEIRDest People in the World; How the West Became Particularly Prosperous and Psychologically Peculiar" (Joseph Henrich).
I enjoyed this, but Frank had obviously forgotten that he was being filmed at the end, as he was too busy looking at his phone to properly acknowledge their thanks. And frankly looked rude, which was a shame.
He was probably recording the interview on his phone and as the interview was coming to an end he was ending the recording.
You can't believe a God creates humans - and yet some can be 'born in the wrong body'. One side of this wants children to know they are made perfectly and the other tells them it's OK to use medical interventions to be their "true self".
Of course you can.
Where did Frank hear any atheist claim that they are being brave or daring?
Frank is my favourite comedian of all time but as a highly intelligent man( Frank i mean) how he can still believe in the "Catholic" god or any other I just don't get it!!! And me a ex Catholic!! Time to grow up Frank!!! :)
Frank's wrong about the equivalency of religions, and to see that all you need to do is look at the fruits of non-Christian religious labour, but he's spot on about so much else. As a fellow Catholic, I loved his prayer book.
Jokes in the Bible? I’ve often wondered whether Jesus was applying his sense of humour and irony when he called the apostle Simon “Peter” i.e. the “Rock.” Peter was impulsive and fickle and betrayed Jesus three times. What a useless rock! And yet… Peter was indeed the rock on which the Church was built. And, in the end, what a mighty saint Peter proved to be. But I think the idea of Simon as a rock started off as a joke!
Jesus knew Peter's future. The moment was way too important for Jesus to making a joke.
So TIndall isn't even anglican, nevermind catholic or orthodox. The cringe, liberal theology she advocates for makes sense in light of that
Read his book 20 years ago. Funny and intelligent guy.
Shame hes deluded about the faith thing.
Being illogical isnt unfashionable its illogical.. the only agument for religion is, 'it makes me feel better, so I believe... Anyway...he used to be funny before he went woke.
No atheist is saying it's brave. Strawman.
52:14 If you don't understand that the Bible requires marriage between only one man and one woman, you don't understand the Bible. If you think God makes mistakes & puts people in the wrong body, you don't understand God.
@@donaldjuan4934 Care to elaborate?
Brain scan studies show that trans individuals' brains are shifted significantly towards their gender identity. Ergo it's demonstrably the case that some people's brains don't match their biological sex.
Hands up if you believe in God? Which god do them others not believe in?
Jesus said “I am the way, the truth and the life; no-one comes to God except through Me (John 14:6). Jesus wants you to to cast all your cares on Him because He cares for you (1 Peter 5:7). Only by repenting of sin and trusting in Jesus to guide your life are you spiritually safe for all eternity. I encourage you to prayerfully read The Holy Bible ❤
Jesus was a messenger sent by God, as was Moses and Abraham before him. He is not an idol to be worshipped. He even says he is not God, and can do nothing without God’s help! To pray to Jesus, is blasphemy. There is only one God Through who all things were made, he is the beginning and the end no one else!
You are on the wrong road my dear, and if you do not change your ways you will be punished for eternity!
@@christianblake3997 Just one of many clear examples that Jesus is indeed God - Jesus: I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 1:8 God: Thus saith the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God. Isaiah 44:6
The man is unbelievably boring on the radio 😭 he talks way too slow its a chore to listen to him
Mate I like you, but please let the science lead you not emotion........faith only take you to the buffers of fairness in life!
What lesson do we learn from all the suffering in the world?
I have two Autistic sons and I really cant see the positives from a religious perspective....pain and stress are high on the emotional agenda, please convince me there are some benefits!
Nothing more judgemental than the catholic faith
sounds a bit judgemental, that.
Actually give the podcast a listen and they do discuss this :)
@@gerryb154lol. My first reaction 😂
Yes. And thank God for that. A watered down Christianity that wants to be 'nice' in the face of the culture war without making judgements or pronouncements that hold to orthdox teachings would not be Christianity at all.
Woke culture is true Christianity in action. The overlap between what Christ preached(unconditional LOVE) and Marxist Theory(specific to social justice) is remarkable.Catholicism errs on the side of conservatism. Christ's Good News is radical thought. It was not designed to give solace to the terminally smug and entitled. It is meant to cause profound discomfort and revolution. We are all judged by how we treat "these the least of my brothers and sisters". In that we are all culpable.