@ It's not a matter of counting, it's a matter of getting back into the hi hat and kick patterns smoothly after the fill
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@@djwiens to know where you are at in the measure is very important to come back smoothly after a fill.. hence those numbers found in the sheet music. The One happens to be where the kick drum first hits. It is a matter of counting for many people, personally I feel the groove and remember the parts without having to count usually. Sheet music could help you maintain a groove after your fills, Stephen has the music free for download. Cheers !
Chris Hughes programmed most of the drums on “Everybody Wants to Rule the World.” They borrowed the snare drum sound from “Shout” and pitched it up. The hi-hat and shakers came from the LinnDrum. The kick drum sound came from the Fairlight CMI. Smith laid down a new bass line with the PPG Wave, and Orzabal and local session musician Neil Taylor laid down the electric and acoustic guitar parts.
Wow. Amazing knowledge there. TFF are so underrated - BBC 6music won't play em at all - but so much feeling, power and beauty in their music. Listen to Pale Shelter, people!
So helpful! I'm a 61 year old gigging drummer who's wanted to get my head around this for years. My favoured version is a variation of your fourth, only double single double single on the bass. It gives it the impetus at the start of the pattern and the missed second is hidden by the snare. Makes it doable for me. Thank you so much!
I really appreciate that you brought up the situational/contextual aspect of which groove you should use. Very cool and very relevant, often overlooked or forgotten.
I wish I’d seen this five years ago! Brilliantly broken down Stephen, and easy 4 on the floor option, I’ve always struggled with this because I do the lead vocal as well🥴
Hey, Stephen. I just noticed you’ve finally reached 100k subscribers. Congrats, man. I hadn’t realized just how long I’ve been watching your vids. I couldn’t name a drum teacher more deserving. Keep it up and I hope the subs keep coming.
Thanks Stephen. I just joined a band that has this tune in their repertoire. I play it two different ways. Now, I am going to incorporate the ghost notes.
This was free. I would've paid for this kind of instruction. I appreciate you making this video and posting it. You sequence everything so efficiently and effectively and now I'm playing moderately less crappy electric drums along with Tears for Fears in my basement!
Stephen, thank you so much for breaking this number down, from the easiest way to the more difficult pattern. When the cover band I'm in decides who will be singing lead ~~ that's what will determine the pattern that I'll select to play............... I'm looking forward to more of your sessions.
Download the sheet music for this song here: bit.ly/2MERSX7 The drumming on the Tears For Fears song Everybody Wants To Rule The World is simply killer. It's one of the most requested drum beats I get asked to teach a drum lesson on. So here it is with several variations I've seen played live as well. Leave a comment below and let me know your thoughts!
Awesome tune and great video as always ! I used to play it mostly based on "Option B" from your music sheet, tho with these personal alterations: I don't play the kick drum "under" each snare and I play very lightly all the triplets on the hats with an accent on every "Li" of "3 lo li". All the hats triplets sort of mimic the shaker/percussion from the original recording. Actually, it's very much like that tune "Everyday Now" from this other late 80' band named Texas: th-cam.com/video/I65nQhhSX4w/w-d-xo.html
Thanks so much for taking the time to breakdown and share the beat to a song that has brought me joy for over 30 years! Every time I hear it, it's like the first time...Continued success Stephen:)
Great video. I'm a guitar and bass player. My interest and appreciation for this song went up immensely from this video. I remember when the song came out and didn't think much of it. I love it now. Thanks for posting
My son loves TFF. I liked them but I wasn't THAT into them. I remember when this song came out and I would sit at my kit and try to play it. This was back in the 80's when the song came out. Low quality audio and iffy bins on your ears playing to what came on the radio. I ended up playing what you played around the 5:15 mark so I'm quite chuffed to know I was pretty much spot on.
"I want to go home and rethink my life" A reminder of how much of an amateur I really am. Awesome video. Great explanations and Amazing drumming! Thanks.
Nice lesson, thanks! Another method that I've seen is playing all the 8th note triplets on the hat, accenting the up beat, which should be the right hand which will also hit the snare on 2 & 4. Works well with 4 on the floor kick.
Stephen, I always have been and always will be intrigued by interesting grooves. I am a bass player and there is a wonderful benefit in knowing how to take it apart, so that it can be put back together. Enjoy this very much... and (even though it wasn't his track) I think Jeff Porcaro is smiling right now
I love these videos where someone actually explains what’s going on. Thanks for that. For the bass I alternate between 3 and 4 and for grace notes of the triplette I do it on high hat with two hands. My snare of 2 and 4 will be my right hand. I have mediocre electric set and grace notes on the snare either don’t pickup or they do pickup at same intensity as beats 2 and 4. I’m a copy cat, I don’t analyze what is really going on, just get it to where it sounds like the original ( to me).
I always played the shuffle kick because that is what it sounds like to my ear. The ghost note snare you played sound great too. I may go back and try that.
My band is covering this song and since there won't be shakers going on, etc. I had already planned on just seeing which beat works best with the band. Stephen laid out that same sentiment. One of the first beats I learned around 1960 was just a swing beat with 4 on the floor and it would work fine without the shakers and stuff going on to supplement the beat. I like shuffling the bass drum and swinging on the hats with a few ghost notes on the snare.
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Great video S.T.!! I've had students who have studied with teachers, before coming to me, that count triplets: 1&a2&a3&a4&a I would never attempt to change them counting this way by any means. I count them: 1 trip let 2 trip let 3 trip let 4 trip let . I reserve the &'s and a's for 16ths only. Giggle.. Can you tell me the story where the Lolly comes from?
I am just amazed how the kick can change the feel of the grove. I always thought the tom toms were what created the grove . Thanks for another great video.
Hi Stephen. I'm finding a good way in to this is to just use the right hand and introduce the left when the groove is nice and comfy. Loving you work. Cheers
What makes playing this interesting is that the left and right hand parts are exchanged. You're actually leading with the left hand, it's just dropping (what normally would be the right hand notes) from an everyday 12/8 (I think) pattern. I've never seen it played like this anywhere else, in combination with a shuffled bass drum pattern it's a mega groove. Crash your cymbals left handed to stay locked in. The tour drummer plays it on a drum gear demo somewhere here on you tube.
Excellent video, Stephen: my opinion: on the second variation where you do the shuffle beat with the bass drum, that is essentially what the Bass is playing, so that, combined with the drums doing the same thing, it is kind of redundant....If you use the first example, and let the bass do the shuffle, I think they won't conflict with each other.
I've usually done it No.3 way, and it usually seems to have the most meat without cluttering it with the full shuffle of the kick.... What a band, what a tune...incidentally, I listened to Big Chair, sure, but I also listened to a LOT of Elemental. Gail Anne Dorsey on Break It Down Again ;) Big massive beats there, classy pop/rock that seems ...well, plain lost, these days... You know, our generation, we played to pop tapes so much, it really did help the pocket
the 4th way is what i hear on the album. Shuffling is cool and all but maybe a drummers ego to not get bored or to show off like "look what i can do!" Sounds just fine without the snare shuffle. Great tutorial, I always respected drummers that can count out loud and play. Its one of those rare grooves that need the brain and hands to adjust too especially for the hi-hat.
Lmao, I remember playing this in the band, I was like playing all those grooves, fkd it up but kept going was only learning at the time, couldn’t wait for the damn song to finish lol memories lol damn that was 30 years ago
I use to play this back in 1985-86 in a band. You neglected to play it the way I use to which was....completely wrong! Lol. Glad to see the proper grooves.
Thanks. I watched their recent live video and it looked like the drummer was disconnected from what I was hearing but I think it’s the ox with machine beat they added
Haha wanted to write this, but thought to check the answers. Do you play the triplet with one hand? Working on that but the muscle memory for ghost-accent still has to come. Which makes the kick hard too... Really like the other possibilities too!
R B yes I did play it with one hand. My early drumming studies was heavily influenced by Jeff Porcaro and his work in Toto. He always did his shuffles and 16ths one-handed. 🤘
I think no. 3 is the deal. But a big part in this groove is the programed shaker. he fills out all missing HH triplets. It plays what you imitate with your snare ghost notes. Thanx for sharing. One of my all time favorite Songs :) I I also love this cool guitar !
Hardest part about this song is nailing the fills and coming back to the groove.
See my comment. Crash with the left hand, it's leading, sort of.
@ It's not a matter of counting, it's a matter of getting back into the hi hat and kick patterns smoothly after the fill
@@djwiens to know where you are at in the measure is very important to come back smoothly after a fill.. hence those numbers found in the sheet music. The One happens to be where the kick drum first hits. It is a matter of counting for many people, personally I feel the groove and remember the parts without having to count usually. Sheet music could help you maintain a groove after your fills, Stephen has the music free for download. Cheers !
@@djwiens I dont know what you mean ?
Same. Working on this now. Did you get it?
Chris Hughes programmed most of the drums on “Everybody Wants to Rule the World.” They borrowed the snare drum sound from “Shout” and pitched it up. The hi-hat and shakers came from the LinnDrum. The kick drum sound came from the Fairlight CMI. Smith laid down a new bass line with the PPG Wave, and Orzabal and local session musician Neil Taylor laid down the electric and acoustic guitar parts.
Larry Salzman interesting
Larry Salzman that's right!!
Larry Salzman The LinnDrum in action!!
Wow. Amazing knowledge there. TFF are so underrated - BBC 6music won't play em at all - but so much feeling, power and beauty in their music. Listen to Pale Shelter, people!
I also remember them mentioning that they basically lifted the beat from Simple Minds "Waterfront".
So helpful! I'm a 61 year old gigging drummer who's wanted to get my head around this for years. My favoured version is a variation of your fourth, only double single double single on the bass. It gives it the impetus at the start of the pattern and the missed second is hidden by the snare. Makes it doable for me. Thank you so much!
Finally someone plays the right hi-hat groove.....thanks! everyone plays it the easy way...hat on the down, not on the up....well done sir... love it.
That's what's do damn difficult. It's fast. And I've practiced many times but my muscles just can't keep up with the tempo.
@@jamesscott6661train those muscles up and you'll get it.
Also what about hi hat 16th notes?
I really appreciate that you brought up the situational/contextual aspect of which groove you should use. Very cool and very relevant, often overlooked or forgotten.
Been playing 2 months now and have just nailed this. Thank you
I wish I’d seen this five years ago! Brilliantly broken down Stephen, and easy 4 on the floor option, I’ve always struggled with this because I do the lead vocal as well🥴
Hey, Stephen. I just noticed you’ve finally reached 100k subscribers. Congrats, man. I hadn’t realized just how long I’ve been watching your vids. I couldn’t name a drum teacher more deserving. Keep it up and I hope the subs keep coming.
Great tutorial! I liked how you broke down all the variations.
Thanks Stephen. I just joined a band that has this tune in their repertoire. I play it two different ways. Now, I am going to incorporate the ghost notes.
Also, Tears for Fears was a very underrated musical band. Sure they were popular, bus there were musically on point!!
So true of many 80s bands. Talk Talk at Montreux is another good example.
Not underrated at all
I beg to disagree, they're popular during the 80's alongside with Depeche mode, Duran duran, OMD, A-ha among others.
Who underrated them?
Ummmm yeah... they were not under-rated at all and still aren't.
I just realized that this tune was composed in an open tuning on guitar. Great lesson, Stephen!
Toward the end, your advice about the specific needs of the band or personal really opened a new perspective for me, thanks!
Great lesson. Thanks for breaking down the parts in a concise way. You're a great teacher!
Excellent lesson!
This was free. I would've paid for this kind of instruction.
I appreciate you making this video and posting it. You sequence everything so efficiently and effectively and now I'm playing moderately less crappy electric drums along with Tears for Fears in my basement!
Stephen, thank you so much for breaking this number down, from the easiest way to the more difficult pattern. When the cover band I'm in decides who will be singing lead ~~ that's what will determine the pattern that I'll select to play............... I'm looking forward to more of your sessions.
Download the sheet music for this song here: bit.ly/2MERSX7
The drumming on the Tears For Fears song Everybody Wants To Rule The World is simply killer. It's one of the most requested drum beats I get asked to teach a drum lesson on. So here it is with several variations I've seen played live as well.
Leave a comment below and let me know your thoughts!
Awesome tune and great video as always !
I used to play it mostly based on "Option B" from your music sheet, tho with these personal alterations:
I don't play the kick drum "under" each snare and I play very lightly all the triplets on the hats with an accent on every "Li" of "3 lo li". All the hats triplets sort of mimic the shaker/percussion from the original recording.
Actually, it's very much like that tune "Everyday Now" from this other late 80' band named Texas:
th-cam.com/video/I65nQhhSX4w/w-d-xo.html
Love it & I'm not a drummer but I got to meet them many years ago when I lived in Bath + I love this song anyway!!
Thanks so much for taking the time to breakdown and share the beat to a song that has brought me joy for over 30 years! Every time I hear it, it's like the first time...Continued success Stephen:)
Andrew Austin thanks Andrew!
michael mattice You bet Michael
This is the best turtorial
For me the 3rd one works very well because it matches the hit hat
Excellent!! Great breakdown of a killer groove and song. Thanks! Sometimes I find the world unexplainable. Why would anyone give this a thumbs down??
Great video. I'm a guitar and bass player. My interest and appreciation for this song went up immensely from this video. I remember when the song came out and didn't think much of it. I love it now. Thanks for posting
I used to hate this song when I was a kid. Now it’s one of my favs
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Original programmed or not, really good breakdown of a classic goove. Thanks
My son loves TFF. I liked them but I wasn't THAT into them. I remember when this song came out and I would sit at my kit and try to play it. This was back in the 80's when the song came out. Low quality audio and iffy bins on your ears playing to what came on the radio. I ended up playing what you played around the 5:15 mark so I'm quite chuffed to know I was pretty much spot on.
"I want to go home and rethink my life"
A reminder of how much of an amateur I really am.
Awesome video. Great explanations and Amazing drumming! Thanks.
Nice lesson, thanks! Another method that I've seen is playing all the 8th note triplets on the hat, accenting the up beat, which should be the right hand which will also hit the snare on 2 & 4. Works well with 4 on the floor kick.
Bro, you're a beast!!! Nice breakdown. I'm in a band about to learn this one. This helped me out BIG TIME!! Thank you sir. I subscribed.
Glad it helped Chad!
Excellent analysis and explanation. You're a gifted teacher. Thanks!
Stephen, I always have been and always will be intrigued by interesting grooves. I am a bass player and there is a wonderful benefit in knowing how to take it apart, so that it can be put back together. Enjoy this very much... and (even though it wasn't his track) I think Jeff Porcaro is smiling right now
I love these videos where someone actually explains what’s going on. Thanks for that.
For the bass I alternate between 3 and 4 and for grace notes of the triplette I do it on high hat with two hands. My snare of 2 and 4 will be my right hand.
I have mediocre electric set and grace notes on the snare either don’t pickup or they do pickup at same intensity as beats 2 and 4.
I’m a copy cat, I don’t analyze what is really going on, just get it to where it sounds like the original ( to me).
Great breakdown of an 80s classic
One of my favorite bands
Great breakdown and instruction. Ghost notes sounds best with this shuffle.
Nice !! Very good lesson for on playing that correctly ,, and additionally - ghosts notes on for showing how to feel the groove easier 👍❤️❤️
Great lesson! I’ve always played it your number 3 way..that one just feels best to me.
Wonderful lesson Stephen thank you for posting hope you’re safe and healthy👍
I always played the shuffle kick because that is what it sounds like to my ear. The ghost note snare you played sound great too. I may go back and try that.
Love your style of teaching. Thanks for the lesson!
Great 80,s song and all four grooves sound good. Thx ST.
Love the 6/4 groove on this song.
Hi Stephen!! Great video. Thank you for breaking down the pattern of this song.
You're the RADDEST Stephen!
My band is covering this song and since there won't be shakers going on, etc. I had already planned on just seeing which beat works best with the band. Stephen laid out that same sentiment. One of the first beats I learned around 1960 was just a swing beat with 4 on the floor and it would work fine without the shakers and stuff going on to supplement the beat. I like shuffling the bass drum and swinging on the hats with a few ghost notes on the snare.
Your explanation was very good, and you played it really well. Thank you! Warm regards from Sydney ✌🏻
Amazing groove excelente explained too
Thanks for a great video. Appreciate all the insight and new ideas. You are an excellent teacher!
Z drummer You bet...and thanks so much!
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Great tutorial, and you’re playing it just like their current live drummer 👍🏼
Great video for a beautiful song. Thanks! Ciao from Bologna, Italy
Great video S.T.!!
I've had students who have studied with teachers, before coming to me, that count triplets: 1&a2&a3&a4&a
I would never attempt to change them counting this way by any means.
I count them: 1 trip let 2 trip let 3 trip let 4 trip let . I reserve the &'s and a's for 16ths only. Giggle.. Can you tell me the story where the Lolly comes from?
Excellent drum lesson and break down of this groove. Really enjoyed watching your drum lesson. Cheers!
I am just amazed how the kick can change the feel of the grove. I always thought the tom toms were what created the grove . Thanks for another great video.
Really?
This is so cool. Clear and concise.
Skydrums1 Thanks!
One of, if not THE best use of a shuffle in pop music!!!
Hi Stephen. I'm finding a good way in to this is to just use the right hand and introduce the left when the groove is nice and comfy. Loving you work. Cheers
What makes playing this interesting is that the left and right hand parts are exchanged. You're actually leading with the left hand, it's just dropping (what normally would be the right hand notes) from an everyday 12/8 (I think) pattern. I've never seen it played like this anywhere else, in combination with a shuffled bass drum pattern it's a mega groove. Crash your cymbals left handed to stay locked in. The tour drummer plays it on a drum gear demo somewhere here on you tube.
Love this cut. Used to play it in one of my old bands. Was an audience favourite.
It’s super fun to play
Excellent lesson, thank you 🙏
jarrahdrum you bet
Hola bro . No entiendo nada de ingles pero con solo verte pude aprender el ritmo .. muchas gracias
Top groove, I was taught it as 3/2 time.
I've played all the others except yours..nice one Steve..dig the ghost shuffle ostinato on the snare.
Awesome thanks! I think the shuffle kick drum is the closest to the recording. It adds that extra “and” stroke to the feel. That’s a tricky one! ✌🏻
Love this beat -and I usually cant stand a shuffle! Great video, Stephen.
Thanks so much for doing this, it's a great groove and a wonderful breakdown you did of it.
You’re more than welcome
Excellent video, Stephen: my opinion: on the second variation where you do the shuffle beat with the bass drum, that is essentially what the Bass is playing, so that, combined with the drums doing the same thing, it is kind of redundant....If you use the first example, and let the bass do the shuffle, I think they won't conflict with each other.
i love the tune of the drums
Thank you!
I've usually done it No.3 way, and it usually seems to have the most meat without cluttering it with the full shuffle of the kick.... What a band, what a tune...incidentally, I listened to Big Chair, sure, but I also listened to a LOT of Elemental. Gail Anne Dorsey on Break It Down Again ;) Big massive beats there, classy pop/rock that seems ...well, plain lost, these days...
You know, our generation, we played to pop tapes so much, it really did help the pocket
I like to play it with triplets on the high hat alternating left and right sticking on the 2 and 4 on the snare. Sounds pretty cool too!!
Great professor! Hug from Brasil!
Very helpful I've always played it the third way
Thank you, Stephen! Super cool groove :D
Great explanation!!! Thanks
Excellent!
the 4th way is what i hear on the album. Shuffling is cool and all but maybe a drummers ego to not get bored or to show off like "look what i can do!" Sounds just fine without the snare shuffle. Great tutorial, I always respected drummers that can count out loud and play. Its one of those rare grooves that need the brain and hands to adjust too especially for the hi-hat.
1loli, 2loli, 3loli POP!
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Lmao, I remember playing this in the band, I was like playing all those grooves, fkd it up but kept going was only learning at the time, couldn’t wait for the damn song to finish lol memories lol damn that was 30 years ago
appreciate your lessons
I use to play this back in 1985-86 in a band. You neglected to play it the way I use to which was....completely wrong! Lol. Glad to see the proper grooves.
Me sirvió mucho la explicación! Gracias!
excellent perfect presentation and very professional playing my friend.
alejandro maria Thanks so much Alejandro!
Amazing. This guy has great stuff. Always like his videos.
Thanks so much Brian
Thank you Taylor!
Do you think you could do a video on the bond between a musician and their instrument?
thank you for this video tutorial stephen.
U an excellent job explaining the drum pattern of song 🎵 👏 👌
Fantastic beat ,thanks.
Great tips on this song...thx bud👍👌✌️
One of my fave songs. Excited to get to my kit. Thanks Stephen!
Thanks. I watched their recent live video and it looked like the drummer was disconnected from what I was hearing but I think it’s the ox with machine beat they added
Thanks this was real helpful much respect man keep up the good work 😎
Stephen is the boss 🥁
I always thought (and played) the hi-hats were played with the full triplet groove with the notes you played accented.
Thanks for the lesson!
Ernest Ramos you bet
Haha wanted to write this, but thought to check the answers. Do you play the triplet with one hand? Working on that but the muscle memory for ghost-accent still has to come. Which makes the kick hard too...
Really like the other possibilities too!
R B yes I did play it with one hand. My early drumming studies was heavily influenced by Jeff Porcaro and his work in Toto. He always did his shuffles and 16ths one-handed. 🤘
awesome thank you sir!
100k subscribers! Congrats Stephen👏
Great lesson, and man, your drums sound great in this video!
CymbALcase thanks!
I've always played it the third way with ghost notes on the snare. It really is a fun song to play.
snowfort77 one of my favs
I think no. 3 is the deal. But a big part in this groove is the programed shaker. he fills out all missing HH triplets. It plays what you imitate with your snare ghost notes. Thanx for sharing. One of my all time favorite Songs :)
I I also love this cool guitar !
Brian Martin thanks Brian!
I like the 3rd way the best. It's the way that came most instinctually playing with the recording
Great lesson thank you 🤘
Ohhhh 1 of my fave newwave song ... ❤❤❤
Cool! I like your explanation! Great sound and dynamic 🙌 👌🏻 😀
What a great explanation, thank you