elgin as a long time viewer , id just like to say ; your videos are VERY high quality even if they're normal gameplay showcase videos because of the little details like the item list below the map or simply the tips . The new edits definitely add alot more value to the already great production . Keep it up!
As a granger main Idk how to feel about this revamp. All of his combos and tricks are gone. No more redbullet thus no more bullet management. No more ultimate quick draw trick. Now it’s just spamming.
i think for reforge the legend, it should be available in higher ranks like in mythic - some braindead players voting for a hero that does not need a unnecessary revamp
Moonton out here revoking the uniqueness of heroes again so epical glories could spam use them. What's the next revamp? Replacing Fanny's hook skill with dash so more newbies could use her?
The hell do you mean uniqueness,he's literally a copy of Jhin from League of Legends and don't blame moonton for revamping him,blame the players for voting him in the reforge your legend event
@@HinoThesecondNo more energy, each hit with skills reduce phys. defense by 5%, enemies hit 5x with skills stuns for 1s with a 3s silence afterwards ❤
The worst revamp ever. He was already decent, all he needed was some extra defensive stats for his survivability. Now he won't be able to one shot or burst squishes in an instant any more smh thanks moonton
@Warlock-9 Granger isnt gonna be bad hes just gonna have a different playstyle but yeah i agree he really didn't need any changes cause hes already very strong in jungle
For me, imo they should just keep the new ultimate that requires energy and forget about everything else in this revamp. I do play Granger, and usually I find myself getting underwhelmed by his current ultimate because of it's long CD from early-mid + only used to snipe/catch enemies from afar. This new ult grants him extra mobility bcs the dash can actually be used as a way to reposition unlike the current version where using ult near enemies is a death sentence and you'll get flooded by "noob granger" in the chat. Plus, the new ult allows him to have a consistent way to snipe/catch enemies, leaving them scared cause they know that an ultimate bullet can fly to their one HP hero anytime, unlike now that once they see you use your ult, they can rest easy for the next 35s if u have 30% CDR at late game. And you can use this new ult when your 1st skill is on CD and can't go too near the enemies. So yh, just keep the new ult, and forget about that spammable 1st skill. Most of Granger's flare comes from hitting that last bullet + managing your 1st and 2nd skills so you coul say that removing those is the same as removing Granger himself.
It's always about tending to the less skilled players, regardless if this is more convenient or not. That, or the convenience of famous heroes like Fanny's extra slash when ulting Midair, or when it comes to mechanics like how they didn't push the current Emblem System when it was meant to be much earlier than when it was released. Not gonna be surprised with how they always lower the skill ceiling of the game, they even put bots in the lower ranks so those bozos can reach Legend + easily despite only having the skill capacity of a cannon minion.
FACTS! I've been telling people the same thing. The skill gap of noob and good players are so thin right now with the new items, hero revamps and so on.
@@bakipagi706 Frr man all those years we learn the mechanics of selena fanny gusion lanc ling lunox granger wan wan ect Now they nerf everyone of them soo that new players can go higher ranks and buff stupid heroes like aamon and yin and miya and saber who only need to press bottons to get savage Now they are going to a new level by changing the hole mechanics like lunox who because a child play fanny with her cables mid ult and now granger they are changing every hard heroe soo that bots can come to higher ranks we didn't play over 10k game soo that someone who played 1000 game can join us and make us lose games time and fun i feel mooneytoon is getting stupid year by year They have been pushing tanks to be junglers. Junglers to be roams and support mid Why there is specific roles if they have to do this And the new items suck we play with skills the pro ones can run with 1 hp taking lord and killing 2 now with the new item 10%hp one hit ur dead why because skill doesn't exist Stealing buffs no they nerfed evading everything doesn't make sense i miss old time 2018-2020 was the golden time of ml Even masha they have no idea what to do with her from the most broken heroe in game with her hp regeneration and fast red bar charging to a tanky heroe with 2 hits kill in late game many no sense revanps
Antique cuirass only counters tanky fighters these days I built antique cuirass on clint vs a saber but it had zero effect in mid to late game just got one shotted or almost died
I like old Granger but I don't hate the new revamp Granger. The new one is also fun since I can keep on opening and close his 1st skill to change direction without waiting for cooldown. The downside is that they removed his 5 bullet shot under his hp bar(bullet management) which is very sad but the new Granger can compensate for the damage/buff moonton giving him. He just lost his uniqueness that's all to me.
@@goosetify1304 just buff his damage, and also his skill 1 range. He has the appropriate burst, but is a bit inconsistent, so i would rather have his enhanced basic attack triggered after his dash instead of every 7th bullet This revamp is ultimately pointless, if not damaging to granger’s playstyle
@@Nyabi_gamingthe enhanced basic part is literally in the dash skill, brother What you meant here is crit bullet in granger's 6th bullet,which will be way too overpowered for each usage of skill 2 to ramp up his bullet to already be guaranteed crit,unless they make him have less base crit dmg like to around 1.6 to compensate for that buff,which is dumb and not good at all,he will lacks even more dmg. He doesn't lose inconsistency in terms of the chaining combo between using crit bullet and got enhanced by dash skill followed up by skill 1 All he need is just faster bullet travel time,longer range,wider width,penetrates and goes through minions but put a penalty,dealing only 80% dmg to minions and buff the dmg of skill 1 by either adding max health% dmg or increase its base dmg and its phys attack scaling.Also allows it to deal max health% dmg against jungles, turtles and lord with dmg cap around 300-400
@@nightchrome1076 the current granger is still very deadly in the meta imo, he just is very vulnerable against mobile heroes who can dodge his 1st skill
@@infinit3833very deadly only against braindead enemy comps, especially when your roam and midlane outdraft the enemies picks and have better overall mechanics and skills Other than that,going against an opponent using either utility and bulky with powerful utilities in team wars comp or assassin tailored comp with very powerful team setters and sustained damage dealers is pretty much a hard counter against granger,who's pretty much the only good part is in around early to mid game as a decent ranged dmg dealer with decent mobility
@@miruliskandar6366 true, but I don't think bulky enemies are a "counter" to Granger in fact it's probably Granger's preferred enemy because of his fast burst damage. Granger should heavily watch out for assassins that can easily kill him because he's squishy
As Granger main my only problem is the reduce cool down on his 2nd skill, his mobility will suck a little bit, Going to miss the low hp damage increase on his ultimate 😢
@@ssjblckgohn1569 it's not a bad revamp but the old Granger is all about timing and mobility and dealing damage, now it's just spamming skills and losing that one special thing that makes him fun to use 😓
@@notme6753 bad for skilled players, not for braindead kids!!! That exactly what moonton want, more braindead kids playing him means they also gonna buy his expensive COLLECTOR skin.
It is a bad revamp, I hate it. Cancel this Granger Revamp Moonton or we might rate you 1 star again just like we did when we requested for Estes to be BLACKLIST Skin. Or worse we might move to Honor of Kings to see if they'll have a hero like Granger and stay in that game.
I really liked the way you incorporated the features of replay mode, it is much more easier to keep track of the happenings in game, however I think the scoreboard below feels too repetitive. (the one with the kda of every players) Anyway nice Granger Gameplay.
They removed the satisfaction of the 6th bullet that hits like a truck just to make him another spamming hero. Not a big fan of this rework to be honest. Too much deviation from the old hero where he feels off. All he needed were some buffs.
Next time reforge comes, don't vote for your meta heroes expecting a buff not revamp. He won that reforge by more than 300000000 votes. You all voted for this, don't whine.
I just wanted them to revamp him visually. Revamp the skill effects and give him a nice recall animation but not revamp his skills entirely.... Wtf Moonton!
I already made a suggestion to Moonton to give Valir a proper revamp but since I can’t trust their creativity skills I created my own kit and submitted it to them. Just hoping they take some ideas. If you’re interested I’ll send the concept idea here.
I swear his passive also included monster jungle seem make him more fit in jungle. like how old alice rotate to farm orb, granger kill the minion to get stack in the first 5 minutes without steal ally exp & gold (as long there ally hero near). but he fall off in jungle at the very beginning because he took more time to kill the jungle monster at the very beginning. agile also play factor.
Old granger has a Reload system and ks able ult plus my way of 2 bullets rondo dash, New one is basically giving him a full auto deagle and the energy is basically a charger box or ammo box in that fps game. Yeah i been there and its a fun yet very gold digging granger r. Deagle to glock 69 yes also his ult has a fire rate to a semi auto sniper.
I am not a Granger main but old Granger had its own charm 🧿 the way that last bullet last use to kill me and I used to be like "no no no.... Not that bullet fffffff I just escapeed😭" three hugeass bullet ult with higher DMG at last one
This is the best revamp and update on Granger💀🗿🔥❤️ Awesome and More fun to harass enemy tanks that won't leave the lane forever staying or enemies waiting in the bush to kill
Lolita: Oh no, anyways. Also i love how yall are complaining when yall were literally the one that voted him be revamped in the first place- Moontoon should take off such marksmen in this type of events, some who don't read think that this event is for Legend Skins..
I don't use granger on rank or classic (only brawl), I think the revamp granger is good in terms of skill combo only. The old granger is good but the combo is limited, such as you have to use all three bullets on his ult before using his 1st or 2nd skill. Only his ultimate is a good change (you don't need three, one is just enough so that you can use his 2nd immediately to escape), the rest is not necessary like removing the crit damage on the 6th bullet
No matter yall makin excuse of granger for gettin revamp because it's not we wanted from 1st place yes its true but it's moonton decision....i know it's the "players" who vote him back then what i mean moonton doesn't want to waste their revampin/adjusting granger so they continue revamp him despite "we" disagree this thing soo let's move on and looks foward this new revamp granger EDIT:Afterall the thing we should mad is the "players" who vote him that time
People voted for granger in reforge your legend, they have to do it ig but the one that need revamp is reforge your legend itself like the heroes availabe are actually the ones that are old or something
Passive : Granger can fill his gun with up to 6 bullets at a time. Marked enemy up to 12 times. Each marked decreased enemy physical defense by 5%. If the marked target HP is below 30% granger gain movement speed by 20% and vison for 3s. After 9 successful consecutive shot enemy hero will get stunt for 1s and lost 2% hp for every shot enemy hero received after. Gain 20 maxed stacks capacity after eliminating enemy and increase stacks generating by 3 stacks. Stack generate rate = 5 stacks per 10 seconds. ( increase with level ) Skill 1 : Granger fills his gun with all bullets and shoots them forward, each bullet dealing 35(+70%Total Physical Attack) Physical Damage (90 more damage against creeps). In this skill Granger is immune to airborne effects and gain 10% damage reduction. Skill 2 : Granger blinks in the designated direction can be use 2 times, Granger damage increase by 10% for 5s Each time "Rhapsody" hits an enemy hero, the CD of this skill will be reduced by 0.5s. Ultimate : 15s Granger open his violin case and load explosive bullets inside his guns. And gain 100 additional stacks while it decay. It last for 10s. Unlock enchanted skill 1 and enchanted skill 2 when use. Enchanted skill 1 : CD = 1s / consume stacks Granger fills his gun with explosive and shoots them forward the range expand by 50% each bullet dealing 120(+70%Total Physical Attack) Physical Damage ( shoot through creeps and minions ) The radius of the explosion is 2tiles. Each shot take 15 stacks. Each Cooldown reduction Item will be convert to Penetration at 100% rate Enchanted skill 2 : CD : 4 / consume stacks Granger blinks in the designated direction can be use 2 times, Granger damage increase by 20% for 5s Immune to cc and airborne for 0.5s when use Passive : At lv 1 : 5 stacks / 10s >> lv 15 : 20 stacks / 10s + additional stacks each kills. Maxed stacks originally : 100 This granger on steroid or mlbb granger.
They literally changed his "revolver" to an mp5
Revolver became machine gun
😂lol
went from pistol to machine gun
"there's no such thing as automatic revolver!"
Granger revamp:
Ikr it's so dumb
He literally looks like kimmy right now. I prefer the old granger, like with an assassin approach.
@@krukru9541 exactly. Granger is no longer able to oneshot, and now relies on braindead aiming
First skill that shoots while ypu move.
2nd skill dash that refills energy
3rd skill that is a long range damage.
It's literally a physical kimmy.
@@walangaccount8984 , people are saying that old Kimmy had his new passive as her own too😂
@@Nyabi_gaming He isnt a assasin he is a marksman it makes no sense for a marksman to be 1 shotting you.
True
elgin as a long time viewer , id just like to say ; your videos are VERY high quality even if they're normal gameplay showcase videos because of the little details like the item list below the map or simply the tips . The new edits definitely add alot more value to the already great production . Keep it up!
Real
He was a unique mm, now the revamped looks like off brand clint
More like child of Kimmy and Cecilion (Karmilla gonna be so mad😂)
marco polo ahh revamp
@@sevmisko couldnt be more true
@@R3m3zis yeah, and somewhat like the physical dmg version of their child.
@@sevmisko yup🤣
This new granger he literally can be played brainlessly meanwhile the current granger he has a specific combo to learn
Plus if you used your skills at the wrong time
your fugked
Exactly. That's why I prefer the OG one than the Revamp.
The only good side is. Granger can now be playable in gold lane
@@youweiner lowkey might be too much
the damage and rate you can spam his abilities are crazy
@@undefined5259 he's also viable now even in late game.
Granger in current server : 🔫
Granger in advance server: a machine gun
No he gonna be a Uzi User because his hand gun share the same size as Uzi so he will be a Uzi User
@@ggamingplay7266still uzi is a submachine gun
More of an AP pistol
Heavy machinegun
Agree 😅
As a granger main Idk how to feel about this revamp. All of his combos and tricks are gone.
No more redbullet thus no more bullet management.
No more ultimate quick draw trick.
Now it’s just spamming.
Same, i feel like he is fine as it is. The revamp is kind of unnecessary
Yeah lol everyone will just use granger now
@@aemus But that's what you get for not using him
@@sGeerTheGeer we use him lmao he just needs buffs
@@Nyabi_gaming I use him too and he's my main... He don't need a buff and sure as hell does not need a stupid ass revamp
i think for reforge the legend, it should be available in higher ranks like in mythic - some braindead players voting for a hero that does not need a unnecessary revamp
welp, back then the players who are bad at grammar voted for granger because they think the vote is for the new skins for the hero
😂😂😂😂@@jeykrim6767
There's a reason Aristotle hated democracy
This makes more sense since the low rank players likely only play one or two heroes which means they likely don't even know how other heroes work
Moonton out here revoking the uniqueness of heroes again so epical glories could spam use them.
What's the next revamp? Replacing Fanny's hook skill with dash so more newbies could use her?
The hell do you mean uniqueness,he's literally a copy of Jhin from League of Legends and don't blame moonton for revamping him,blame the players for voting him in the reforge your legend event
Well players choose this and now they are angry why moonton revamped him.
Stop giving them ideas... At this point I won't be surprised that actually happens.
@@Liunaru He is still unique in MLBB's marksmen rooster since no one else had the bullet mechanic.
@@shinzenzo2911 Well with that logic he's still unique just has a lower skill ceiling 😂
They be turning every heroes' skill ceiling into floor level now😭
I wonder what fanny revamp will be like
@@HinoThesecondNo more energy, each hit with skills reduce phys. defense by 5%, enemies hit 5x with skills stuns for 1s with a 3s silence afterwards ❤
@@whereisthatbustlingmarketp4227 the worst part is i can see this happening
The worst revamp ever. He was already decent, all he needed was some extra defensive stats for his survivability. Now he won't be able to one shot or burst squishes in an instant any more smh thanks moonton
Or cooldown reduction
@Warlock-9 Granger isnt gonna be bad hes just gonna have a different playstyle but yeah i agree he really didn't need any changes cause hes already very strong in jungle
Probably just noobs in epic who voted cause you need a brain to use and cant just spam basic attack like Hanabi or Miya etc
Granger is not being picked in pro play. It's a clear sign that Granger needs a revamp.
Worst revamp? How about Natalia HAHAHAHA
For me, imo they should just keep the new ultimate that requires energy and forget about everything else in this revamp.
I do play Granger, and usually I find myself getting underwhelmed by his current ultimate because of it's long CD from early-mid + only used to snipe/catch enemies from afar.
This new ult grants him extra mobility bcs the dash can actually be used as a way to reposition unlike the current version where using ult near enemies is a death sentence and you'll get flooded by "noob granger" in the chat.
Plus, the new ult allows him to have a consistent way to snipe/catch enemies, leaving them scared cause they know that an ultimate bullet can fly to their one HP hero anytime, unlike now that once they see you use your ult, they can rest easy for the next 35s if u have 30% CDR at late game.
And you can use this new ult when your 1st skill is on CD and can't go too near the enemies.
So yh, just keep the new ult, and forget about that spammable 1st skill. Most of Granger's flare comes from hitting that last bullet + managing your 1st and 2nd skills so you coul say that removing those is the same as removing Granger himself.
Dont. theyre gonna nerf it if its happen
It's always about tending to the less skilled players, regardless if this is more convenient or not.
That, or the convenience of famous heroes like Fanny's extra slash when ulting Midair, or when it comes to mechanics like how they didn't push the current Emblem System when it was meant to be much earlier than when it was released.
Not gonna be surprised with how they always lower the skill ceiling of the game, they even put bots in the lower ranks so those bozos can reach Legend + easily despite only having the skill capacity of a cannon minion.
Preach Brother, preach 🥹🙏🏻
I approve of this message
FACTS! I've been telling people the same thing.
The skill gap of noob and good players are so thin right now with the new items, hero revamps and so on.
@@bakipagi706
Frr man all those years we learn the mechanics of selena fanny gusion lanc ling lunox granger wan wan ect
Now they nerf everyone of them soo that new players can go higher ranks and buff stupid heroes like aamon and yin and miya and saber who only need to press bottons to get savage
Now they are going to a new level by changing the hole mechanics like lunox who because a child play fanny with her cables mid ult and now granger they are changing every hard heroe soo that bots can come to higher ranks we didn't play over 10k game soo that someone who played 1000 game can join us and make us lose games time and fun i feel mooneytoon is getting stupid year by year
They have been pushing tanks to be junglers. Junglers to be roams and support mid
Why there is specific roles if they have to do this
And the new items suck we play with skills the pro ones can run with 1 hp taking lord and killing 2 now with the new item 10%hp one hit ur dead why because skill doesn't exist
Stealing buffs no they nerfed evading everything doesn't make sense i miss old time 2018-2020 was the golden time of ml
Even masha they have no idea what to do with her from the most broken heroe in game with her hp regeneration and fast red bar charging to a tanky heroe with 2 hits kill in late game many no sense revanps
this is why i dont play solo.
Lolita is having a field day with this new Granger
😂😂😂
Man shut your ahh up with this same old joke.
😭😭😂
Granger isn't Granger anymore
Now he is a Kimmy Granger💀
@@R3m3zisHell naw😂😂
@@R3m3zis kranker
This ks because of the braindead Epic players voting the most voted hero at that time in the Reforge Event.
He’s John wick jr. now
Moonton: We made Granger broken
Antique Cuirass: 🍷🗿
Malefic roar :🗿🍷
Antique cuirass only counters tanky fighters these days
I built antique cuirass on clint vs a saber but it had zero effect in mid to late game just got one shotted or almost died
Twilight armor >>>
@@Imtheonewhoaskedandcares works only if damage exceeds 800
Might not work
@@dimplegargtgtsc.sambarocha344 twilight armor is perfect for this new granger
Granger shouldn't have even put on the list of "reforge your legend" in the first place .
what does reforge your legend mean
@@sarethpanhasak9915 I think it's another term for "Revamp your/a hero"
Should have been baxia, hylos or cyclops
You say that yet everyone voted him
I prefer the simplier one
I like old Granger but I don't hate the new revamp Granger.
The new one is also fun since I can keep on opening and close his 1st skill to change direction without waiting for cooldown.
The downside is that they removed his 5 bullet shot under his hp bar(bullet management) which is very sad but the new Granger can compensate for the damage/buff moonton giving him. He just lost his uniqueness that's all to me.
8:06 lord aura giving 1.1k dmg boost every 2 seconds is crazy
Well, he will certainly can catchh up to the markmen meta now but seeing him with a pistol that acts like an auto is kinda cursed
@@goosetify1304 just buff his damage, and also his skill 1 range. He has the appropriate burst, but is a bit inconsistent, so i would rather have his enhanced basic attack triggered after his dash instead of every 7th bullet
This revamp is ultimately pointless, if not damaging to granger’s playstyle
They should give him mp5 not pistol
@@Nyabi_gamingand lower his cooldown
Nah he just put a switch on it
@@Nyabi_gamingthe enhanced basic part is literally in the dash skill, brother
What you meant here is crit bullet in granger's 6th bullet,which will be way too overpowered for each usage of skill 2 to ramp up his bullet to already be guaranteed crit,unless they make him have less base crit dmg like to around 1.6 to compensate for that buff,which is dumb and not good at all,he will lacks even more dmg.
He doesn't lose inconsistency in terms of the chaining combo between using crit bullet and got enhanced by dash skill followed up by skill 1
All he need is just faster bullet travel time,longer range,wider width,penetrates and goes through minions but put a penalty,dealing only 80% dmg to minions and buff the dmg of skill 1 by either adding max health% dmg or increase its base dmg and its phys attack scaling.Also allows it to deal max health% dmg against jungles, turtles and lord with dmg cap around 300-400
Granger's new energy system is like back when Kimmy had mana and energy at the same time.
4:56 then moonton should have removed the extra damage to creeps from his first skill
They still want him to be a jungler
@@-.-1 even so, he fall off compare to other jungle. he took more time to kill jungle monster at the very early and not mobile much compare to others.
@@nightchrome1076 the current granger is still very deadly in the meta imo, he just is very vulnerable against mobile heroes who can dodge his 1st skill
@@infinit3833very deadly only against braindead enemy comps, especially when your roam and midlane outdraft the enemies picks and have better overall mechanics and skills
Other than that,going against an opponent using either utility and bulky with powerful utilities in team wars comp or assassin tailored comp with very powerful team setters and sustained damage dealers is pretty much a hard counter against granger,who's pretty much the only good part is in around early to mid game as a decent ranged dmg dealer with decent mobility
@@miruliskandar6366 true, but I don't think bulky enemies are a "counter" to Granger in fact it's probably Granger's preferred enemy because of his fast burst damage. Granger should heavily watch out for assassins that can easily kill him because he's squishy
As Granger main my only problem is the reduce cool down on his 2nd skill, his mobility will suck a little bit,
Going to miss the low hp damage increase on his ultimate 😢
I am also a Granger main and this revamp has left a deep scar in my heart
@@ssjblckgohn1569 it's not a bad revamp but the old Granger is all about timing and mobility and dealing damage, now it's just spamming skills and losing that one special thing that makes him fun to use 😓
@@Chad.41With that said... It is a bad revamp
@@notme6753 bad for skilled players, not for braindead kids!!!
That exactly what moonton want, more braindead kids playing him means they also gonna buy his expensive COLLECTOR skin.
It is a bad revamp, I hate it.
Cancel this Granger Revamp Moonton or we might rate you 1 star again just like we did when we requested for Estes to be BLACKLIST Skin. Or worse we might move to Honor of Kings to see if they'll have a hero like Granger and stay in that game.
Lets put a petition to stop this revamp guys. Its getting more annoying. Lets say "No to this revamp"
Seriously 😒
i agree
this is literally what players voted they really need to make only Mythical glory or immortal only players on reforge events
Hhahhahaa after the players voted for granger to be ravamped when he didnt needed one what a joke
Afraid of changes yet votes ggr to revamp lol
I still prefer the old Granger rather than the revamp Granger
Like the new edit Elgin, I think moonton should do the item display like this, should be helpful if you want to know the progression build
Yea it should have been a feature
The devs probably playing creation camp Granger and decided "That's his revamp right there".
Does the energy also stack with killing jungle creeps? If it doesn't its bs
My Boi!!! Look at what they have done to my boy!!!
Hey do u think melific gun is good for him ???
I really liked the way you incorporated the features of replay mode, it is much more easier to keep track of the happenings in game, however I think the scoreboard below feels too repetitive. (the one with the kda of every players) Anyway nice Granger Gameplay.
Do attack effects and thick wall spamming works?
In my opinion granger doesn't really need a revamp all he really needs is a visual revamp
Yes!!! Ffs someone actually said it!!! Just revamp him visually... Add a recall animations... But don't change the skill!
He doesnt even need visual, he was fine 😭😭
@@notme6753everyone is saying this bro
@@NinodoCraft a thing is they should bring back the violin sound effect on his first skill
True !!
2:31 does it work in game? Or only for videos
But original Granger is the one I Fallen in Love with though 😢
Yeah... I even bought all his skins because I really like playing him. His new skills really suck
Crit build can be triggered while using first skill ?
They removed the satisfaction of the 6th bullet that hits like a truck just to make him another spamming hero.
Not a big fan of this rework to be honest. Too much deviation from the old hero where he feels off. All he needed were some buffs.
And his last bullet + skill 2 combo is good to take down squishes in one shot without giving them a reaction time.
Next time reforge comes, don't vote for your meta heroes expecting a buff not revamp.
He won that reforge by more than 300000000 votes. You all voted for this, don't whine.
@@dinte215 I voted for Gatot that time because he was stuck with his ancient model and abysmally low pick rate.
I just wanted them to revamp him visually. Revamp the skill effects and give him a nice recall animation but not revamp his skills entirely.... Wtf Moonton!
@@reizshfelonia6471 and that time it was also tank jungle meta so granger fell even harder
2:29 - 2:45 Oh Hell Yeah! That new editing is way better and more detailed
Valir needs a revamp to his old self.
A pusher, damage dealer, and team fight cc.
I already made a suggestion to Moonton to give Valir a proper revamp but since I can’t trust their creativity skills I created my own kit and submitted it to them. Just hoping they take some ideas. If you’re interested I’ll send the concept idea here.
3:10 Im upset.
Why,do you choose to recall,instead of walking back to the base,THAT near?
I hope that they cancel this "revamp" 🤞
Lets hope so bro
Frr
I can see many great line ups that are good for granger and line ups on countering him.
Happy birthday elgin
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I swear his passive also included monster jungle seem make him more fit in jungle. like how old alice rotate to farm orb, granger kill the minion to get stack in the first 5 minutes without steal ally exp & gold (as long there ally hero near).
but he fall off in jungle at the very beginning because he took more time to kill the jungle monster at the very beginning. agile also play factor.
they voted for granger, now they are crying 😂, the irony
Hunter strike,blade of heptasea and maleflic roar plus 3 balde of despair will that melts heroes?
Cannot wait for Granger Revamp😊😊😊😊
when release?
i honestly very much appreciate the edit on the ui, thank you elgin
Old granger has a Reload system and ks able ult plus my way of 2 bullets rondo dash, New one is basically giving him a full auto deagle and the energy is basically a charger box or ammo box in that fps game. Yeah i been there and its a fun yet very gold digging granger r. Deagle to glock 69 yes also his ult has a fire rate to a semi auto sniper.
I am not a Granger main but old Granger had its own charm 🧿 the way that last bullet last use to kill me and I used to be like "no no no.... Not that bullet fffffff I just escapeed😭" three hugeass bullet ult with higher DMG at last one
Man they really stripped off all of his distinct features that build his character 😭
- The old sfx on his 1st skill
- His Critical last bullet
This is the best revamp and update on Granger💀🗿🔥❤️ Awesome and More fun to harass enemy tanks that won't leave the lane forever staying or enemies waiting in the bush to kill
do mana work on him?
So is the wall spam on the ultimate still available?
i think it's possible
Is it only on advanced servers
my question is does his first skill and ultimate use spell vamp or lifesteal
does spell vamp work?
Granger was pissed enough from the assassins, he pulled out the Choppa 💀😭
I like the revamp I felt he had too many restrictions as before but now he feels like a gunslinger
Imagine a new feature being added to his first skill like (Hok- Marco Polo)attack speed affecting it
Might as well put true damage passive like marco
Lolita is gonna have a field day with a granger that doesn't know how to cancel his 1st skill.
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Thatd pretty good Elgin. Also i like the edit.
When granger says 'wanna look inside ' idk why but i like the voice of his in that line
The edit is so gooddd 2:59
I can wait for this Granger ''wonderful'' Revamp 🔥🔥
more like "dogshit" revamp lol
You guys keep complaining about revamping granger. YOU PEOPLE VOTED FOR HIM TO BE REVAMPED. Its in the intro.
guys i have a question, is everything that is on advanced server eventually go to the main server, ot somethings are just for the advanced one?
So war axe can be his item?
2:30 - 2:45
I prefer and wish that these will apply as a feature ingame Please moonton.. I longly wanted to have these features in game
why would they ruin the fun and uniqueness (idk if that's a word) of a character to make an entirely different one
if you still have a dash after using every ult charge, then that's a game changer to me. Both escape and damage at the same time without CD
I like it. When it will be released on official server?
Lolita: Oh no, anyways.
Also i love how yall are complaining when yall were literally the one that voted him be revamped in the first place-
Moontoon should take off such marksmen in this type of events, some who don't read think that this event is for Legend Skins..
Oh ho ho. As one of the Lolita mains, I'm gonna have a lot of fun with this revamped granger 😏
(late game granger Finna be crazy op)
will this be released on normal servers
I don't use granger on rank or classic (only brawl), I think the revamp granger is good in terms of skill combo only.
The old granger is good but the combo is limited, such as you have to use all three bullets on his ult before using his 1st or 2nd skill. Only his ultimate is a good change (you don't need three, one is just enough so that you can use his 2nd immediately to escape), the rest is not necessary like removing the crit damage on the 6th bullet
skill issue. STFU
Before when i purchase weekly diamond pass the currency is in PHP. But now it's in USD. How can I bring it back to PHP?
The edit is nice.i think it will make a good new feature we can maintain our gold by seeing it all the time.
You voted for Granger's revamp which is not necessary, and now you guys are complaining?
How's spell vamp on him?
No matter yall makin excuse of granger for gettin revamp because it's not we wanted from 1st place yes its true but it's moonton decision....i know it's the "players" who vote him back then what i mean moonton doesn't want to waste their revampin/adjusting granger so they continue revamp him despite "we" disagree this thing soo let's move on and looks foward this new revamp granger
EDIT:Afterall the thing we should mad is the "players" who vote him that time
Is he out on global server??
To player that complain Granger revamp
Shouldn't be revamp
Remember scker, u guys vote him
when they're gonna release it?
1:55 phew, that was close
People voted for granger in reforge your legend, they have to do it ig but the one that need revamp is reforge your legend itself like the heroes availabe are actually the ones that are old or something
The high mobility coming from his 2nd skill was my favorite
As a granger main i prefer the current granger than the revamp
It was even an impossible dream for us to get an time limited epic skin for free..now we r going to get free collector...😅
Now you are not recommended to run straight when facing Granger revamp
that edit good. we can track the gold of our team as well as enemy
6:15 The ultimate is a bit cheating because it makes you immune to Vale's ultimate pull
Passive :
Granger can fill his gun with up to 6 bullets at a time. Marked enemy up to 12 times.
Each marked decreased enemy physical defense by 5%.
If the marked target HP is below 30% granger gain movement speed by 20% and vison for 3s.
After 9 successful consecutive shot enemy hero will get stunt for 1s and lost 2% hp for every shot enemy hero received after.
Gain 20 maxed stacks capacity after eliminating enemy and increase stacks generating by 3 stacks.
Stack generate rate = 5 stacks per 10 seconds. ( increase with level )
Skill 1 :
Granger fills his gun with all bullets and shoots them forward, each bullet dealing 35(+70%Total Physical Attack) Physical Damage (90 more damage against creeps).
In this skill Granger is immune to airborne effects and gain 10% damage reduction.
Skill 2 :
Granger blinks in the designated direction can be use 2 times,
Granger damage increase by 10% for 5s
Each time "Rhapsody" hits an enemy hero, the CD of this skill will be reduced by 0.5s.
Ultimate : 15s
Granger open his violin case and load explosive bullets inside his guns. And gain 100 additional stacks while it decay.
It last for 10s. Unlock enchanted skill 1 and enchanted skill 2 when use.
Enchanted skill 1 : CD = 1s / consume stacks
Granger fills his gun with explosive and shoots them forward the range expand by 50% each bullet dealing 120(+70%Total Physical Attack) Physical Damage ( shoot through creeps and minions )
The radius of the explosion is 2tiles.
Each shot take 15 stacks.
Each Cooldown reduction Item will be convert to Penetration at 100% rate
Enchanted skill 2 : CD : 4 / consume stacks
Granger blinks in the designated direction can be use 2 times,
Granger damage increase by 20% for 5s
Immune to cc and airborne for 0.5s when use
Passive :
At lv 1 : 5 stacks / 10s >> lv 15 : 20 stacks / 10s + additional stacks each kills.
Maxed stacks originally : 100
This granger on steroid or mlbb granger.
You can balance it because it still in development stage.
They should decrease the range of ultimate to clint range
Moonton really destroy their heroes especially jungle mm.
Goodbye old granger
As a main Granger i'll no longer play him by now, we don't need this revamp
I bet the players who voted this were not even playing granger. Granger is more like Kimmy and Clint with this revamp.
I like the simpler edits without the scoreboard and gold difference
Everyone is complaining about the revamp but no one uses him so this is everyone fault.
Get that war axe and hunter strike ready mah friend