NINE MINION STRATEGIES TO HELP YOU WIN MORE GAMES
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 พ.ค. 2024
- NINE MINION STRATEGIES TO HELP YOU WIN MORE GAMES
00:00 Nine Minion Strategies
00:07 Lane Cutting
01:09 Freeze Lane
02:04 Freeze Lane V.2
02:36 Lane Shoving
03:23 Slow Pushing
04:12 Lord Timer
04:57 Simultaneous Attack
06:04 Grock's Wall
06:30 Heroes and Minions
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Slow pushing is news to me and I find that very effective to force the enemy team to have -1 member for teamfights. The only downside I can think of about this strategy is if your team is unable to take objectives or get kills, especially when late game heroes from the enemy team manages to clear the lane you slow pushed on which results to them getting their core items much faster.
Yes, if you don’t time the slow push well, instead of creating pressure, it just gives them free gold and denies your team from gold
Actually youll only use that strat before lord dance. To set up a possible minion push right after killing the lord. So even if you lose in lord dance theyll be able to buy you time to respawn or take down 1turret.
I've seen this in the pro League....most common team I often watched for strategy was BL....but that was before when Veewise was still there....
Will my allies ever watch this vid
Nuh uh
For sure not
yooooo Soundwave!!!
your enemies will watch this video
Nuh
I’ve known all these strats except the slow pushing one, cuz in my mind I don’t really like wasting the siege minions cuz they’re the most valuable xD probably near end-mid to late game is best to do this strategy where teamfights are more prevalent
bro why dont you have any comm or like
am a big fan btw :3
But this strategy is really useful in 5 men and during lord dance. But yeah this sucks in solo q because you rarely see lord dance in solo q.
You can use that strat more effective in late game, glad I notice you Idol shout out
Wait does the seige actually give more xp/gold? How much is it?
Additional tips:
Minion Hold - This applies when the damage dealer in your team dies or is late in arriving in his lane, try to hold the enemy minions outside the range of your tower so that your damage dealers can still get the gold and exp from that minion wave. (Remember, your damage dealers have the priority in Gold and Exp in order to scale. Without them, you'll lack damage in team fights, so be sure to prioritize giving the resources to them)
Another application of cutting the minions - When the enemy team tries to push a lane, you can cut the minion waves in order to prevent or delay that push. It is much safer if you do this with a hero that has high mobility. This usually happens when the enemy team got the Lord and they try to push the towers all the way to your base. Try to cut the minions and escape. (Remember, it is difficult to push a tower without minions. So this is vital.)
Use the minions to block skills - there are certain skills that can't go through minions. Use this as an advantage against your enemy. For example, an enemy franco is hiding in the bush in your lane. Use the minions to block the hook.
Minion wall strat examples:
Flameshot
Franco hook
Granger
Baxia Wheel
Valir
I just need to be more precise at using Franco's 1st skill😅
Lost so many battles but MVP to most of them
Another tip: Yeet the damn minion as Jawhead
@@whoasked3677except flameshot can go through minions. It's the jungle creeps that can block the flameshot.
@@whoasked3677imo, minions still reduces valir cooldown, so it's better to bait his skil at safe distancel and dodge, so the skill passive goes completely ineffective
Finally, someone mentioned slow pushing. I tried to tell my teammates about this, but they called me noobs. Well, it's solo que. What should I expect?
Slow Pushing is one of the strategies I often do, it's not actually slow but it delays the minion wave to stack and win your minion wave against the lane. And also I learned that Lord spawns together with minion wave hahahaha. Shout out po
Actually it's called slow pushing cuz the name originated from the League of Legends community. They slow push for the same reason as we do on ML but the way they do it is different, which is by only last hitting the minions. The minion timings in both lol and ml are different so the slow push methods are different.
Maybe i would like to add 1 more as a roamer main, maybe i call it "Saving Minion" so, its just freezing the enemy minion with intention so that your gold lane ally did actually get the gold and exp from the minion, especially the siege minion, it can be used when the gold lane dies or recall. This act usually done near tower since you are very vurnerable and you can let go of the minion once your teammate is near, also making them clear it faster with the help of turret
He forgot to mention luo yi at the end cuz her first skill splashes with the opponents behind them
@@gonez.r yeah its really essential as a luo yi main as it allows you to hit the enemies very easily and even when they are decently far away
Xavier too. His 1 extends its range when hitting any target o passing through his 2
Hanabi too
And faramis. And saber dash with first skill on. And any hero with heal. Or any splash hero, that damaging both you AND minions and beating resources out of you while clearing wave. Etc. He told us the principles, not exact tactic
Lancelot‘s and joy‘s dashes too
The problem is my enemies are watching this and my allies are not lol
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5:39
My teammates: "nah bro just push it on the middle and done"
*Enemy savage*
I had win streak using this, thank youuu😊
Thank you it was helpful i knew most of these strategies but the one I did not know was how to build up huge pushes
Elgin can you flex those biceps for us?
This is just the video i needed after feeling stuck and not being able to effectively end the game with a lead in early
This is actually really useful! Thank you bro! Cheers! 🥂
Other tip for match making is the roam/support counter pick
Heal supports>"strong against" > poke supports >strng agnst> enchanter/ tank support >strng agnst> burst supports> strng agnst> heal support....
But this it still depends on your team lineup
I am dumb please explain clearly
@@waleedabdullahkhan5706 example is when enemy picks diggie (poke/throws skills repeatedly) one good counter is to pick a healer (like estes to recover lost hp), and if the enemy picked estes(healer) you can pick saber(burst) for example) to instantly kill the healer.... while burst roamer can't instantly kill tanky supports
It's like pokemon type weakness but with supports
Nice tip. You gave me some ideas, thanks bro
It's a good thing that these important lane strategies are being taught, especially the lane freezing.
Love the depth in your content
Bro Elgin got surprisingly jacked 💪🏽
Keep up the good work
There are some things that are new to me such as that blocking with grock wall in the early game, slow pushing and the minion timer. Thank you for this. This definitely will help.
I think the grock wall strat can also be applied to some of his early tips like it prevents the enemy minion from sieging yours or meeting your ally minions.
This is an old strat but u kinda need to be good with grock first.
Thanks for the guide Mr. Elgin
Quality to pre ah. More of these in the future 💯
*Clint & moskov's passives also work on minions so I'd recommend not standing close to your minions or wall against them*
last hit your minions specially in gold lane
*pay attention to map or the junglers gold if you can. because you can tell what buff he started with in the first 50 seconds of the match if you watch his gold but don't get to focused on it*
*ask for help or play very safe if you're being camped by enemy mage or tank. same if you're lane is freezed poke as much as you can and ask for help so they become an easy gank.*
Thanks. I always do the freeze version 2, also effective in exp and gold lane that have no support from allies 👌
This is very informative. because a lot of player have no idea how much it helps when you have knowledge on this minion management tricks.
A perfect video for those need an upper rank like me, thanks Elgin😊
Now, that's what we've been waiting for. This tutorial is game changer. I feel so noob now.
Natan I've found is quite good at lane freezing because you can constantly force the enemy back with his 2nd skill, you can also prevent minions pushing your tower with his 2nd skill by pushing back, and if enemies try to get aggressive you can force the enemy minions out of the turret just as they come within its range and it'll cause the tower to fire at your counterpart briefly forcing them back
My dumbass read the Title as ' Nine Months strategy'💀
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Are u commenting because u did so?
@@sabintiwari342 yeah. What happened?
I needed this thank you sm
This video was seriously needed
Thank you for the tips 😊
As a fighter main, I know all this, and more techniques beyond this.
There are times that I am assigned to be the MM, and I never liked being guarded by our roamer, especially if the roamer is touching my minions or hiding in the *safe bush* instead of the *danger bush.*
Roamers that hides in the *safe bush* are useless.
Pls share ?
This veido is really helpful even I'm in Matic Gelory I don't know about minions that much thanks for this veido
I personally found out about slow pushing from playing wild rift as wave management was an integral part to ranking up in that game. Been using it in ML to divide enemies in lord fights
As an exp laner I only use 2 strategies at most and that is the freeze lane and slow push but that doesn't mean I don't use other strategy it's like those are options and those 2 are just my bread and butter.
After 6 years of playing this game , i have learned all these strategies and i try my best apply on battlefield 😙😙
Best video so far❤❤
I just found out the v2 of freezing lane and it is very helpful i tried it while using zilong against an alpha user and it helped out a lot in early even while getting ganked
When I'm playing with my brothers, we are doing the lord freeze strat were we delay our lord from going to enemy by not killing the minions in it's path, in this way the next minion wave will still be the bigger minions that we can use to our advantage to easily end the game at late game or destroying a tower.❤
Yea, idk why it's not mentioned, cuz it's very strong tactic
Addition to Grock's wall, you can do that on a specific lane e.g. your team EXP Lane when they are being dominated by the enemy exp laner.
You forgot to mention most noob junglers minion strategy
" Clear minions waves without the teammates guarding the lane as fast as possible so they don't get gold or exp "
Real bro
I feel like i get it but im afraid not.. Can you please explain what you mean by that?
Its about being greedy and not letting your teammates get the resource from the minions
@@zeen8190 ouhhh got it, thanks!
@@zeen8190 thanks for the explanation!
When in late game as a tank/support i always make myself become a target from the turret so the marksman can push the tower safely with the minion , this is for late game when the minion is far away
Thank you elgin!!!
One more addition is managing the minion waves when the opponent has the lord. Freezing some lanes so that the lord wont be in sync with the minion waves is also a crucial strategy to prevent high ground from collapsing
Slow pushing is something I didn't think of. It looks really useful.
Another i want to mention is that when you are exp lane and using jawhead you can use second skill on siege minion to Your own tower back right at the time when enemies minion launch their attack while your siege minion is last hit.This make your enemy cannot get the exp from the siege minion
im occasionaly play ixia and for me as an ixia player. having minion while your lane up to 3 enemies ganking you early game. If you have your ult, dont hesitate using your ult early doors because it can really help you clear out lanes and also getting health from minions and at least you can slow their push towards your tower.
I do all of this strategy except for grock block, however the slow push strategy are the one I didn't do because of gold advantages..
But I gonna do it alot after listening to your explanation, it's seem OP.. 😂
Finally I'm waiting for this cuz i always do this things
as a solo queue player I never give my strategies a name😅 . Good video btw I hope all players will learn about this. but remember don't just focus on farming , teamwork is a must . don't just farming and watching nearby teamfight . Help our team.
Thank you i have tried to cut line using angela mage build ❤.
bro looking buff keep it up king👑
Ikr I didn’t expect Elgin to look so beefed up 🔥
The most helpful thing ever
When laning, when enemy also try to last hit minion, wait for the minion to get low and then start attacking them with skills. If u are stronger zone them but if you are weaker drop your skills and go. This can cause the enemy to not last hit their minion or you to at least win the hop trade.
I tried the wall block of grock and its realy effective specialy on side lanes
One thing i like to do with lord is to let it clear waves so its up longer and creates more stronger waves u can get mainly 3 strong waves and 4 if u really prevent the enemy from killing lord
I saw a video by fuego about the triple siege minions when you destroy all of the towers in mid lane before 5 mins. Mark
My friends and i tried this (5 man mid only) and it was quite hard to do took us 4 mins before we destroyed all the towers in mid but it works
I do this when i use exp for early game I thought many already knows this I guess only few now u know goodluck winning 😊❤
For the last one add Hanabi cause it increases her range sometimes
Atleast either be on the enemy side of the minion or just snipe the low hp minion while she clear it and try to avoid the bounce
amazing video.
thank you for the tips
Thank i buff-gin for that knowledge. Btw U did bulk than cut or str8 to cut ?
Midlane, when you are ahead and their midlaner goes back to lane when turtle is almost up, dont clear wave and show yourself in the map. You just wait for their midlaner, to go back and burst out their hp with your skills(no need to commit and kill or use your ult), so they have one less person helping in objective.
If they don't go back even with low hp, that midlaner is free to kill after your skill cooldown ends. (But you can only do this if the midlaner doesn't know your position. So, after bursting them the first time, you must back away immediately and go to a different hiding position to where they are most likely to go.
Thanks ❤
There's also the Gord strategy: Throw your 2nd and 1st on the minion wave and go for the gank. Its a Shove + near zero map presence. Just gonna need to time it right of course.
I do it all the time.
That vexana boom boom was just 👌🤣
5:40 that's what everyone should do in the late game lord push. Usually the enemy will use their lane clearing skills & ults to destroy the lord. Then the other two super waves will march in giving you 2nd attempt to end the game.
I have seen this kinda strategy like all the time except delay minions tactics I might meet such a condition but I didn't. notice as well thanks man alsi I feels like there's more push tactics you intentionally left for some reasons.
That freeze lane v2 is effective late game when you're losing too. But that needs more attention
I have known all of this, except that Grock Wall. I just cannot stop all 3 lanes with a single wall.
Also Yu Zhong can either Heal with Skill 1 on minions, or Stack Skill 2, making it more dangerous for the enemy (Full Passive Stack on Impact or Activate Second phase of his Skill 2 in order to chase Enemy easily!
Thanks for this vid Sir Elgin
Now my enemy ( that watch this) become stronger
My teammate getting weaker or remain the same
They forgot to mention that hanabi is also really strong when there are minions due to her passive that bounces each time she does a basic attack, one trick to avoid this is to maintain a safe distance from your own minion wave in the laning phase
Which hanabi players want you to do to make you lose gold and exp from the minions.
There's another way just be on the opposing minion while hitting her i usually use brody for this. Doing this is risky since this can easily lead to being ganked. Which it happened more then I'd like
Or just hide in a bush
Sheeeshhh that freeze lane2 is the best strategy
My tips when using dyrroth, 1v1 near the minions can gain more life steal so you can survive more
I would mention lancelot in the heroes and minions, since his passive and first skill can be fully utilized with more targets. If my team lancelot is ready to attack, i wanna make sure theres minions for him so i wont clear it before teamfights.
as a minsitthar main, freeze lane is my favorite strat because it's normal they'll hide from me in the tower
My dumbass misread it and think is 9 million strategies💀
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You in lane cutting should add to pay attencion on map if they are missing you dont wanna get ganged
Ap Bren are amzing in this stragategy
6:51 and dyroth because of his passive it is a very important thing fr diroth in early
Nice video very informative
2 more minnion tips
1. Roamers can help 'freezing' the lane if the gold/mid/exp laner died near thm, to help secure gold n exp
2. Last hitting gives extra gold , no matter which strategy ur using, always time ur basic atk to last hit (mistake on Elgin's part whn he's showing freezing lanes)
can u please make a video about vision, for example; when can enemy see us in the mini map.
Im the fan of freezing lane method 2, method 1 is too risky in my opinion, they can gank you easily cause you are too far from the save zone (turret) method 2 is very save and my team can easily gank cause of they are focusing on the minion beside they are far away from their turret if they try to take their minion.
Yup I do this with thamus and alpha so the enemy tank mage and jungler shift to exp lane😂. Our mm farms peacefully.
If this is happening to you I would suggest to do a lane cut and rotate
Good points 🎉
imagine this guy becoming a coach
Very Pro tips
6:33 dont forget hanabi because her basic attack bounces on the player and the minions which deals more damage
Correction, minion waves spawn at :11 and :41. It used to be :10 and :40.
Each minion spawns every second, the first one appears at :11/41, second one at :12/42, third one at :13/43. Lord will spawn after the last minion, so it will spawn at :14/44.
Additionally, it takes around 15s for mid minions to reach mid of the map, 20s for side lanes. Minion waves spawns every 30s, use this knowledge to gain advantage.
Another tips:
Slow Lord : this is when you get the lord BUT dont clear the Lane where the Lord went to. Since the Lord turns the minion into enhanced minions. So if your team doesnt clear the Lord's lane essentially you'll have 2 wave of enhanced minions (simultaneously) instead of 1 by 1. (NOTE: It only Works for top and bottom lane, tho it can actually works for midlane if the enemy didn't kill the Lord fast enough.)
Despite knowing all of these, I love the fact Elgin actually makes a video for this. Hopefully more players will improve thanks to Elgin
I've been doing the slow pushing as roamer without knowing it. i just don't kill the seige because it's too tanky and takes so much time 😂
If you play dota, you can learn how to control minions -also the freeze lane v2 is rare since you can only do it with weak in early heroes allowing the enemy to think you are weak and dont know how to play your hero so theyll either ignore you since theyll be bored or theyll think you are an easy kill. Minsi is the best example for this strat, just hook everyone who gets close and/or contain them inside your 3rd skill while tower do the damage to them which works to all greedy ruby users.
Freeze lane is also called gap your opponent in lane you will not hit the enemy minions and be aggressive to your lane opponent until the hero goes to own turret similar to bullying a aldous lvl 1
In case you have a teammate dead after getting the lord, depending on the respawn timer don't clear the wave the lord is in so that you can have a 5 person teamfight with the lord.
JH's Launcher skill. If you successfully made your opponent retreat in the early game, shove your Siege minion into their tower using his second skill
With these strategies, I can secure more victories from now on.
Last part
Yuzhong second skill also gives more stacks with minions, his basic attack will give more
And hanabi
Good tips.