The Original Top 10 Gettysburg Myths with Tim Smith
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- (VIDEO) Ask a Gettysburg Guide #35 Myth Bustin' with Tim Smith (the Original)
Tim Smith stops by to help our Patrons (and perhaps you, too) bust some myths around the Battle of Gettysburg. Podcast listening is just one way to learn YOUR history. Go to www.addressinggettysburg.com to learn more
Just some thoughts on the "blood drain" myth. If you had a 10' x 10' room it would take the total blood volume of 750 men to rise to knee height (1.5') assuming you could handle that many patients in a "blood-tight" room without opening a door. Considering death would likely occur upon loss of 40% of your blood volume, and therefore, bleeding more or less stops, it would take closer to 1900 bodies to yield that much blood volume. Seems doubtful.
Thank you! It just never sat right with me that there could be that much blood
Add to that the fact that these are wood floors, and wood stays thirsty until it petrifies. Meaning a lot of that blood would get soaked up into the wood like a sponge. Now imagine there really was THAT much blood in that room. That floor would be completely ruined from having a sudden influx of huge amounts of organic fluid. You'd likely have to rip the whole thing up and replace it. I'll add to this that I've heard first responder say time and again, that bullet wounds, even bad ones, can bleed surprisingly little. It all depends on where you've been hit. I get the sense that people imagine every hit to be a fountain of arterial fluid.
Obviously false. What room is so sealed as to hold any liquid anyway, they have doors. No math required
Tim's reflection on calvary vs. cavalry reminded me of one of the best sayings I've ever heard: "Calvary will save your soul but cavalry will save your ass." Haven't forgotten the difference since.
I feel like there’s a “won’t” missing from that saying. Or am I just not getting it? Haha
It took me a minute, but I get it. Calvary - meaning Christianity. Cavalry- meaning keeping the Infantry from getting their teeth kicked in.
It's all in the spelling lol.
thats the most I've laughed about the burg. I always learn something, but also we learn how the story of the battle has evolved over time. We learn the why and wherefores.
How this only had 1.4k views boggles my mind. Yet a jake paul video gets 10m+. Tim Smith is a national treasure.
because people prefer to be stupid. Share it!
Just found your podcast, I love it! Loved hearing from Tim, hoping you get Matt Atkinson in studio as well. Keep up the great work!
Thanks so much!
I remember the first time I was in Gettysburg. We were in June of 1968. I remember our tour guide he was maybe mid to late 60's tall wore wire rimmed glasses very stately, and he was a retired history teacher from Gettysburg. He really made an impression on me, and I was Gettysburg hooked from that time on. In fact, James Getty, who impersonated Abraham Lincoln, he was the choir director at Sandusky High in Ohio. The music department presented a spring concert he portrayed Lincoln I sat right next to him with wide eyes and mouth hanging wide open! I told my mom and grandma I was sitting next to Lincoln himself. Just a little story about my love of Gettysburg.
Oh I didn’t know that about Mr Getty. That’s pretty cool!
@addressinggettysburg yes Mr. Getty would come back to Sandusky High to do Lincoln. He did a program, and we asked him questions as Mr. President. It was cool. Little story on a visit in '98 my aunt who is 6 years older than me, walked into Mr. Gettysburg theater on Steinwehr he was talking to a couple of the lady turned around said, "Lisa!". They were the parents of one of her friends for high school. They told Mr. Getty who she was and was excited to she again. I stood there with everyone talking about the tines at SHS. I was then introduced by who my bother in law was then another oh my God moment. Lol
So I always thought rubbing O'Rorke's nose was bad luck, because every time I rubbed it, I still had to pay for my pizza afterwards.
Hahaha
When I hear outlandish ideas and thoughts from my staff I’m finding myself saying… “Cool” 🤣. Think I’ve listened to just about every podcast Now. But I keep going back to the Tim Smith Episodes, great stuff guys keep up the great work.
Haha I find myself using it in every day conversation too. Thanks for listening!
Back on '72 Traveler was at Appomattox Courthouse. But then again it was the '70s1😂😅
Lol
Question: According to Sears ("Gettysburg") on the night of June 30 Buford was agitated as he expected fighting to come down on him in the morning. Supposedly when one of his colonels tried to assure the anxious Buford that they would handle anything the “Johnnies” threw at them in the morning, he replied grimly: “No, you won’t. They’re going to hit you tomorrow and they’ll come booming. You’ll have to fight like the devil until supports arrive.” Doesn't this imply that at least Buford knew that tomorrow would see combat? Curious your take on this.
Great discussion by the way. Especially grateful for the dispeling the repeating rifle myth of Buford's cavalry and monument horse legs myth.
Yeah he knew. I think most knew something was in the air. Confederates had been through town on June 26th, more were 8 miles away and apparently heading towards town.
@@addressinggettysburg Agreed. In fact, to me one of the unanswered questions of the morning of July 1 is why would A.P. Hill have sent two battalions of his corps artillery and two of his three divisions (as opposed to just one brigade with some wagons for booty as Heth did the day before) if he didn't believe Pettigrew's concerns that it was the Army of the Potomac he saw and not local militia outside Gettysburg. Pettigrew was new to the army, but his intellect was not in doubt.
Sadly, Hill died before he could write his memoirs to explain why he sent so much power back to Gettysburg on July 1. He had to know if there was a fight that this was too big a force to not become heavily engaged with his III Corps, despite Lee's standing order to avoid a fight until the army united. This was a big force but all Hill's Gettysburg OR says is that he wanted to "discover what was in my front." But sending 2/3 of a his corps for what was ostensibly a recoinnaisance-in-force seems overkill for this purpose. I wonder he he knew more than he let on? Or just overplayed his hand? We'll never know. Hill's actions at Gettysburg, probably because he was sick, are a bit sketchy in the record.
Opie and Anthony inspired soundboard, I like it
Good ear
I could find things, including water, with copper rods. It was explained to me by a old well driller who did this with a Y stick, that if your body has enough electricity , it tries to ground out. I'm interested to know how my rods would react to burried bodies....never tried it. I locate burried drain pipes, sewer pipes and locating people's sewer tanks....works with burried water lines and electrical lines also. A well driller looks for a crack in the rock deep in the ground that has water to decide the best place to drill for a well.
I would love to give Tim a demo next time I come to Gettysburg. I'm a fan of Tim's and can listen to his videos on the battle for hours, I find the subject inexhaustible.
Same here.
I have read the Traveller book. It was a hoot. I also remember riding the double decker bus when I was a kid. I can't remember if it was on the tape or if the guide said it, but this is how they presented the myth of the equestrian statues. If the horse had all four hooves on the ground the rider survived the battle uninjured. If one hoof was raised the rider was wounded during the battle. If two hooves were raised the rider was killed during the battle. If all four hooves were raised the rider was an original member of the US Air Force.
Yeah that’s an old guide joke. The tape didn’t say that. The double decker bus was a tradition for me and my dad when we came here. He loved it.
Brilliant episode.
Thank you
Great as always!
Thank you! Cheers!
Great show. Thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it
I have a story on the myth busting. Back in '96 I came to Gettysburg with my Mom and Aunt and we went on a ghost tour. It was interesting to hear about the civilians and good stories. We were told about the Woman in White at Spangler's Springs. I was so excited to look for her. Well let me just say I felt like Sally Brown sitting all night in the Great Pumpkin Patch with Linus Van Pelt! I felt so jipped it was not true!😂😅 The last time I believed in SPOOKS! 😂 Please dont kick me out I dont believe in ghosts one bit. I thought this story was a good one for myth busting because i busted the stories fast.
lol all are welcome here. Even if they think ghosts are real. The important thing is that you learned the most valuable lesson one can learn here: ghost tour guides are NOT historians. They’re story tellers. Big diff!
@addressinggettysburg oh you should have heard my Mom and Aunt laughing at me that night. Lol
Thanks!
Thank you!!!
Blond girl from Newheart was Julia Duffy.
That’s right! Thank you
Just discovered your podcast. Love it!
Welcome aboard! Happy you enjoy it. Please spread the word!
Very entertaining and informative video. Love it.
Thank you.
This is an excellent video however the audio is out of sync with the video. I shut it down closed my browser and reopened it to run it again and they were still out of sync.
Hmmm. I just skimmed through it and couldn’t find out of sync moments. But it was a livestream so there could have been moments where the sync went out. Nothing I can do to fix it at this stage
The answer to ever question is... Rule of cool.
Its cool to have General Remolds its not cool to have corporal so and so..
The rule cannot become a lie, its somethinf I have seen to many tour guilds do.
It can all so spark someones historical interest and that is a great thing
Cool 😎
@@addressinggettysburg lol
nice
Very nice
Evidently nothing happened at Gettysburg, according to Tim.
Lol
As far as the dogs, they can sense low blood sugar and tumors so who knows ,
There's plenty of things science can't explain
Indeed
Love your podcasts, but you guys need to refer to someone else when discussing firearms. You really put many of your own myths out there with your comments about the Sharps and Spencer carbines. The barrel length and site radius had nothing to do with the advantage of the Sharps and the Spencer (as well as the other breechloaders used in the war) - they were ALL black powder. In the case of the Spencer, it used a metallic cartridge that fed from a seven-shot tube magazine located in the butt stock. Rounds can be loaded individually; however, Erastus Blakeslee invented a cartridge box containing these magazine tube cylinders which allowed for the rapid replacement of the entire empty tube once the seventh and last shot had been fired. This operation is much more akin to a modern lever-action rifle than the Sharps, which is a breechloading carbine/rifle that still utilized paper cartridges and required a primer to be placed on the nipple under the hammer for each shot. It was much, much slower than the Spencer, but only a little faster than the Enfield-style muzzleloading rifles used by most infantry units. The true advantage of these, both the Spencer and the Sharps, is that you didn't have to expose yourself when reloading, as they bother were much easier to load and the black powder fouling was somewhat reduced compared to their muzzleloading counterparts. The advantage, gentlemen was indeed rate of fire, but it was greatly amplified by allowing the solider to efficiently reload behind cover.
Not sure what we said that was different than what you said because I haven’t listened to this episode since we spoke it, but, our whole thing here is to explore and question and sometimes questions come up within a show that neither we nor our experts are well-versed in. It’s not a scripted show, so, naturally, a detail or two will get messed up. On that note, if you’re a firearms expert and would like to come on the show to talk about civil war firearms, I know that many in the audience would like to learn more (myself included). Shoot us an email and we can schedule you.
@@addressinggettysburg I certainly will. I am not sure I am worthy to be on the same podcast with guys like ya'll. Edited to add, I am a dummy for posting before I realized this was a 2 year old podcast. How in the world I just found this channel last week after all the time I spend watching CW history channels is amazing. But, I will indeed be your huckleberry for any podcast you do and need a firearms 'guy'. I hesitate to call myself an expert when there are people like Ian McCollum on TH-cam.
I’ve heard some of these myths being told as fact in documentary’s and to be honest I think that’s ridiculous that they couldn’t do their research before presenting something as fact. That’s pretty irresponsible.
But that’s the problem. They did do their research and it yielded these myths. Many renowned historians of their days propagated these myths. Some of them, like the shoe myth, are great examples of how devilishly the Lost Cause worked its way into everything.
If you worked for the Gobernment for so long in good status why do you hate the Government?
Who better to hate it than one who worked for it?
@@addressinggettysburg if you hate your employer why would you stay for an entire career?