Tatar Biocomposite by Grozer Bows - Patreon Review
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 18 ก.ย. 2024
- Holy Moly!!!
This bow, I tell you: THIS BOW!
Checks all the boxes one could possible have for a bow.
The look, incredible, the draw buttery smooth, the shooting exceptional, the feel just great and the price more than worth it
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I think Grozer is the only bowmaker whose bows I want to collect all of.
After you collect all biocomposite bows, you will unlock his EXTRA 3 biocomposite for free :D :D
I feel exactly the same.
im glad you can post on facebook again!
I could post, just not share of different groups - was a fb bug I guess
Have this bow for one year now and shot several thousands of arrows with it. An awesome performer. And it it even gets better over time! I can fully recommend this bow!
I am just thinking of buying one of the Tatar biocomposite bows and hearing this makes want to buy it even more. Thank you!
Great bows! I left mine strung for 3 months and it lost about 10% of the draw weight (from 44 to 40@28) but got it all back after just being left unstrung for 3 days. It was interesting watching it regain its unstrung crescent shape. Should have taken some time-lapse photos. I've left it strung for a month several times and it only lost a couple pounds, got it back over night. It's never needed balancing, has never twisted. It's smooth, fast, and quiet. Why did I do that? I just had to know... now you don't have to wonder about it.
hehe I understand, thanks for your insight
Simply the best archery channel on youtube. A kind, passionate and charismatic man with soothing voice, clear english, amazing bows, quality reviews... And it must be painful to give away this beauty haha
This one YES!! thank you for your kind words
The quality of Grózer bows is outstanding.
Especially the early ones which were made a decade ago or even earlier. Those used genuine comressed cow horn or solid waterbuffalo horn and premium wood core. Sinews and tendon plates are still fine, but I'm afraid the so-called biocomposite recurves do not use a real horn material but rather some kind of plastic substituent. I saw numerous complaints from my British mates about recently built biocomposite bows of Grozer. Tell me if I am wrong
Another beautiful bow by Grozer! And in my opinion the best design for speed and shooting heavy arrows! Thank you Patreons for picking this bow! And you Armin for reviewing it! Now to talk the administrator of finances (aka. The wife) into why I need 15 asiatic bows in my collection!!!! Lol
just 15??!! come one, tell her that this is the min amount of asiatic bows an good guy should have and you are a very good guy :)
@@ArminHirmer thank you my friend I'm showing this comment to her as we speak!! I think it helped! Lol
😂administrator of finances😂
Ask her about the amount and price of her shoes...
You should Definitely make at least 1 video about this now when you get it. I can never get enough opinions about the same bow. Especially grozer bow
My biocomposite Tatar from Grózer arrived yesterday.
What a bow! Bloody marvellous!
The draw is smooth as butter, while the bow is snappy as hell nonetheless.
Draw weight 42# @ 28" (measured by Grózer)
Draw weight 50,9# @ ~32" (measured by me)
Fell in love with the BC-Tatar, already!
The ordering process went pretty straight!
Sent an email to Grózer, and got a reply from him within two day´s.
Can you share the recommended Brace height range? I obtained one from another person.
Whenever Grozer makes a bow, an Angel gets their wings. Nothing but greatness from Grozer. Awesome review Armin.
Your channel is bad for my bank balance... It's like seafoam green colour, I like it!
I’ve been wanting one of there’s tartar bows for a couple years now... wish I had spare money for one of these masterpieces 👌🏻
What a beauty! Much fun to the patreon, who will win this bow!
3 days ago I have shot my Grózer Tatar BC bow for the first time and even not being able to do my full draw, the bow performed excellently ☺️
I was very much looking forward to this review!
Thank you so much, Armin! 😁
Can you share your brace height range?
@@worldtraveler8372My BC Tatar has a brace height of 8”.
I am completely in love with this... 55 pound.. I would be in heaven.. but I don't even care...
The look... The draw... The style... The everything... I want it soooo bad
When it comes to Biocomposite bows Grozer are on an other level
yes always again an extraordinary experience
great channel, great review, great bow! Colours still not mine, but thats high level complaining. Thank's for the review (y)
I have this bow at 38lbs. I pull 42 lbs easy as if it was half the weight. Amazing bow, it tickles everybody's curiosity when they see me shooting it
Grozer is the best talking about price versus quality…👏👏👏
Oh, your joy when shooting and presenting this bow is so obvious! 😀
I'd love to see and try this thing of beauty in 100 lb at 28" - even if it would be a nightmare for me to put the string on and also the shooting would be challenging.
But so worth your time
Such a great bow! I even like the colors. Thank you for reviewing this Csaba bow. I love my Csaba Grozer bow.
Hot damn! What a bow, that unstrung shape is beautiful as well as the strung shape. Great review and fantastic shooting sir!
Armin i recently started watching ur videos and rediscovered archery. I took my 50# Grozer Turkish biocomposite bow and started training again. And Master Grozer's bows are truly a piece of art. Everybody who owns one should be proud. And a little note to Grozer, plz more info on the gpp, that would help.
Thanks Armin for the great quality and content of your channel. It’s very informative. Your channel deserves more views and I suggest you remind the viewers to thumbs up your videos alongside subscribing.
I have a Grozer Hungarian #50. I will say this about Grozer. He backs his bows 100%. Years later I asked about a new string and he sent one at no charge. If you decide to buy a bow from Grozer you get a lot more than just the bow.
I've been eyeing grozer bows especially the Assyrian
Ohhhh.. wow.... Now that... That is soooo beautiful...
What an outstanding looking bow...
Patreon... Whoever got it... I'm so jealous... I want it so bad
I really enjoy your videos. They have woken my interest for traditional archery.
Thank you Mr. Armin for a great review! My old sythian bow is a Grozer. They are a lot of bow for the money.
Look at that C shape! Iam sure it was the standard C shape bow back in ancient time but nowadays with modern fiber glass bow this by far the most unique looking asiatic bow.
Brilliant design.
Oh my goodness!!! What a beauty! The colors, the shape, the sound everything about this bow is simply magnificent ❤️
Oh Armin , I gotta have this bow you know how I love the tartar
I love your bow reviews, please keep them coming. Grozer bows are beautiful bows a new must have!
thank you, I will do my best
In addition to the informative presentation, I appreciate your humorous twist. Thanks
Gorgeous Bow
What a great bow by a great Bowyer.
great review , thank you Master
Another great biocomposite bow from Grozer. I am a lucky owner of an Assyrian and a Persian, an can confirm that the draw experience is really different from laminated glass fibre bows.
Regarding durability: they really don't mind lightweight arrows, even if it feels like dry firing. There is also a video of Grozer, in which he tested a biocomposite bow by fixing it fully drawn and then cutting the string with an axe. They how survived without any damage. So I would say that it is quite hard to break them...
A pity, though, that it is so hard or impossible to order a custom made bow from him. Practically you can just get the bows in stock, from my experience.
thank your test very good like ever i will buy scythian and tatar by grozer of course with my assyrian afther than my collection is ok.
I think csaba must give you some royaltise.
hahaha thank you
@@ArminHirmer you never test some longbow why?
@@levraipaslefaux9593 my patrons never vote for one, no company is sending one for review :) but soon I will get a Howard Hill style longbow :)
@@ArminHirmer Ok in french we have some great longbow maker north archery make beauty bow go look on the web i think you love this bow and he mke some recurve to
@@ArminHirmer give me your private notice you prefer tatar or turkish by grozer?
As always fantastic review, thank you so much for your work!
thank you for watching and commenting, that makes the difference
Thank you for detailed reviews Armin! Amazing bow… hope I am the lucky one this go around 🤩
Already have the assyrian biocomposite from grozer , but this tatar will shortly be mine aswell
I have been trying to get in contact with him. Was he slow to respond?
have the Assyrian too but this one... man.....
@@megaknizzle can take a bit sometimes, but worth it
@@megaknizzle after two years of intense shooting , the string of my assyrian were torn i wrote to them and three weeks later i received a new one for free . within 48 hours you should have an answer .
on a smaller budget flagela dei makes excellent bow aswell
How long does he usually take to send a bow? I purchased one about 2 weeks ago but still not been sent
What a bow. I love it. These Grozer biocomposites are now more affordable then ever.
How durable yould you say it is? More or less than a fiberglass bow?
I see no problem with this bow (even when I shot 6gpp arrows hehe) they will last
That is some Sweet Shooting and right from the start. Super Review & Video.
Amazing Bow. Don't have the money for it yet but in the future when I get better at archery this is the channel that i will come to to get a bi composite
That a beautiful bow. I think I found one of many I like. Gonna have to get one in 55#. Nice review as always.
Grozer and Nawalney, my two favorite bow builders that conjure up, in my warped mind, 2 different scenarios of dispatching ones enemies.
With a Grozer bow one's arrow pins the enemy to a tree for the buzzards to feed. Quick and done, you move on.
With Nawalney, you lure your enemy into your candlelit tent, have a fine meal, drink some wine and when you're finished with him your arrow pins him to your feather bed. Then you place your pretty bow up on the wall of your tent.
But that's just me...😁
I like it! Nice analogy of two of the best bowyers on the planet!
your mindset Jen :)
@@ArminHirmer I know, smh...but if I stifle it I get hives😂
Thanks for another enjoyable review Armin.👍
@@tammynfletcher hehehe thanks!
Looks like a truly awesome bow. I am planning on building one myself.
let me know how it works out for you
@@ArminHirmer well if it turn out well, maybe there will be more, and one could perhaps find its way to malta 😉
I would like to hear an explanation of pressed horn and pressed sinew.
ask the bow maker please, I was not there when they made them
Can you explain to me the difference between torque ing and Khatra? Is it simply a style of khatra? The horn on Biocomposite is pure eye candy! Really enjoy these Grozer reviews.
Torque is a rotational motion only while you over grip the handle. Khatra is more side and down
Packaging is not about the score, it's about sending a message to the bow builders. 😁
Hey armin! Great video as always.
I have an unrelated question maybe you can answer: I know you taught archery in lebanon 🇱🇧. I’m going to visit my family there soon and was wondering what was the archery club called and / or where it was? I’d love to see where the great Armin was teaching and, have a place to shoot during my stay there. Thanks!
Hi. I was teaching at the German School Beirut in their outlet in Doha. Official clubs are rare, as the bow is a "white" weapon there.
@@ArminHirmer Thank you! Sadly seems like the schools closed now from my quick google search. Sadly :(
@@trexypoo5360 they close in summer times for around 3 months
@@ArminHirmer ohhh I see. Thank you so much!
Servus Armin, wieder mal ein tolles Video 👍
Bei dir sieht alles so locker aus, bin Anfänger und komme mit der Daumentechnik immer besser zurecht aber mediterran treffe i gar nix, der Pfeil driftet immer nach links weg. Habe den Skythen von Flagellat Dei.Hast du einen Tip für mich.
Schön Gruaß aus Viechtach Niederbayern.
Ja, bleib bei Daumentechnik hahaha die Abweichung ist normal, dang an kurze Distanz und adaptiere
Nice bow.
What a bow!
I just received this bow that I ordered after finding your channel on TH-cam.
Such a great review!
I noticed with the bowstring that the strengthened middle part were you put the arrow is not in the middle.
Does anyone know why, or is this just a coincidence?
Thanx.
Sir Please request archers tidbits to make 4 finger protectors
Huh...I was just going to hit him up to make a one finger protector, the all important middle finger. I only ever get a honking big callus on that one when I shoot Slavic.
Ask him directly, he does not work for me :)
@@ArminHirmer
Sure sir.😅
Simon’s bows seems to be excellent but it cost twice the price ;)
This one is impressive! 😎
Hi Armin, i just made a Patreon and will be supporting you for your awesome reviews and love for archery! is there a minimum amount in order to be able to join the giveaways?
hey Shimo, thank you very much. Every amount is fine for the giveaways
Es klingt vielleicht nach einer dummen Frage aber woher weiß man bei diesem Bogen was oben und was unten ist? Ich konnte keinen Unterschied sehen. A Grozer Bow is on the bucket list to go to Australia that's for sure.
Meist haben sie irgendwo eine Beschriftung nach der man sich orientieren kann
@@ArminHirmer ok und vielen Dank für die Antwort! Dann können meine Selbstzweifel jetzt wieder in den Schrank 😉
Woo-hoo!
Is this bow now called the Persian? I see one Tatar of the Grozer website, and it looks different. The Persian looks like this one. If not, does anyone have any experience with the Persian? @armin hirmer
I wish I could find a lightly used grozer bow, I'd snatch it in a heartbeat. $450 is a little much for me even though it's fantastic value
Remarkably flat arrow trajectory at 30m.
Yepp
Impressive shooting too.
Grozer fabrique toujours exellence bow.
More longbow / flatbow :)
in the making
It look like crimean tatar for me,
Beautiful curve btw
Ordered a Tatar a few weeks ago from Gròzer.
And i ask him a few day´s ago which minimum arrow weight he recommends.
Quote: "The minimum gpp is 8,5"
Addition: gpp for the biocomposite Tatar
🤯
Does Biocomposite bow need to get warmed up with heat just like natural hornbow? In Indonesia the bowyer here are already tried to make their own "biocomposite" beside natural hornbow, efg bending, and hybrid (fiberglass plus horn). I myself prefer hybrid bow since they are a pleasure to use and shoot, and did not need luxurious treatment like hornbow. I hope you could review natural hornbow from Indonesian bowyer in the future :)
yes I would warm up a bit but esp when unstringing you need to be very careful and slow
@@ArminHirmer is there any heater machine you recommended to heat the bow? I know in korean hornbow video the bowyer warmed the bow first before using it. Perhaps you could make an english friendly video about warming up the bow?
@@Q44bs warming up for me means, you simply bend the limbs a little before you start shooting and make them flexible so to say. No need for heat treatment
@@ArminHirmer I see, thx for the info :)
@@Q44bs the hybrids from your country are awesome! I'm waiting for a tartar from Kang Onnot as we speak!
One day I will own a Grozer bow...one day...
you will not regret it
Armin i think you will not give these bow away…😂😂😂
rub salt in my wounds.... I have to...
Which one did you prefer the tatar or turkish in terms of grip, draw overall feel
Tatar
I want danush
Armin i was wondering how can we order from grozer archery? Thx
in the description is the link to the website, I guess an email is okay or a message on Facebook
@@ArminHirmer thank you
Sorry Armin for correcting you, but Grózer is pronounced with "z" and not "zsch". You mastered his first name though 😉
I gotten used to pronounce it the wrong way and sometimes fall back into it :)
i want it.😭😭😭
"In Nomine... GROZER" LOL
This bow seems to rock. Perfekt sice, beatiful curves. The colors are not mine, but whatever. Sound is also nice. No peung, just a short put.
Compared to punching: Not a bitchslap, but a straigt centerpunch.
Hahaha, during writing this, Armin:"flattening the curves..." I love your deep cynicism.
Suggestion for your patreon bows: why don't you just use a bit of electrical isotape. Shoud be enough for a few shots...
Or are these scratches your sign of approval? 😜😘
Thanks and keep up the good work!
yepp, thats my signature hahaha
Lol.. what were u going for with the bag over u... Lol
I'm about to unsubscribe.. you made me buy already and create needs in me. I think you are toxic to my wallet.
Sooorryyyyyy